April 11, 2025 • 50 mins
Hey everyone! You have heard about the weird stuff they have found under the Pyramids. This episode, we break down what they have found, what it could be and more. Thanks for listening and please be safe.
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
What's up everybody, Thanks for listening to the what Cast?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
How you're doing, Man?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Doing all right? Weather's starting to get nice. The plants
are starting to grow them. We actually just planted some
stuff this weekend, so things are looking up nice.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's been weird over here. It's been It hasn't gotten
past sixty for like two weeks. Then it got to
eighty five for three days, and now I won't stop raining.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We did have some rain this weekend. I actually it
was kind of it was a mild weekend. It was
like in the forties. But I just found a fucking
toad on my sidewalk earlier this evening, sick and yeah,
it was so fucking cold. It's like forty degrees out
right now and it's just sitting there. So I scooped
it up and put it in my flower bed so
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it can at least bury itself under the mulch if
it needs to. But it was a big fat guy.
I don't know what the dolly's been eating. It's been
cold as shit, but it was cool, the first one
I've seen this year.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It was awesome and you just let you grab him
and he didn't trip out or did he do that
creepy screen.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I just scooped him right up and he was cool.
I think it was because he was cold, so he
wasn't really all that feisty. Oh your hands are so warm.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, everyone, they found some weird shit under the pyramids,
and you bet you're bitby. We're going to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, they found the secret to move nirelet ho top
and the old ones are returning.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It almost seems that way. We waited a little while
to cover this to see what information came out, and
there's been some updates about the size of these things
that have been found under the pyramids, the Giza Pyramids,
and you may have heard that in the person reporting this,
Mike finally found out. It's a gentleman by the name
of Filipo Beyondy, and he's got a pH and Doppler
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tomography and underground imaging with this special new radar what
they call it pulse radar. Right, it's I.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Don't know exactly what the hell it is. It's it's
called the SAR, but it's it's a synthetic aperture radar.
I don't really know the science behind.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It me neither. I tried.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I don't know that's the deal.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So we'll call it the new magic radar. But they've
they've used this radar on the pyramids and found these structures,
and again there's there's new numbers. The study that he
did using this radar has detected eight vertical cylindrical pillars
extending over two thousand in one hundred feet under the pyramid,
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with an additional unknown structures that look to be like
big rectangular rooms connected to some of these big cylinders
that reached down another four thousand feet, So this huge
structure altogether goes down over six thousand, five hundred fucking feet.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, that's crazy. If it's true, that's I mean, or well,
I shouldn't say it's true. If it's accurate, that's crazy.
And the one thing I do want to put out
there because this was something that was new that well
I say new, it was something I was getting a
lot of attention recently, so a lot of people thought
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it was a new discovery. But this paper was written
in twenty twenty two and as of yet, it has
not been peer reviewed, so I think that's important to
note it was not something that has been peer reviewed yet.
So while this guy's got, you know, legitimate credentials, and
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he's putting this out there. I think it is important
to note that it's not peer reviewed. But for the
conspiracy minded among us, you know, we can always say
that that things that challenge establishment really in any case,
but but most but a lot of the time, establishment
science or what's established as being accurate history, things that
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that alter that. There's a lot of people that say
that that gets covered up because it fucks with the
status quo, and it a lot of it I think
has to do with ego. But you know, you could
go that route, I suppose, and say, well, they're covering
they're just the reason it's not peer reviewed is because
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no one wants to get in on that, and they're
all in on the cover up. Or you could also
look at it as being people in academic circles are
hesitant to put their reputation on the line, so by
giving something some ridiculous claim credence, even though there might
be accuracy or you know, something to these findings, because
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it's so such a ridiculous claim to make, people are
gonna be hesitant to even sign off on it or
review it for accuracy and to make sure it's something real.
But if it is real, like I don't, I would
have to assume at this point most of you have
seen the computer imaging of what was supposed to have
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been found, And if that's true, what was the purpose?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Right, Yeah, that's that's well. I mean before we get
into that, I wanted to kind of touch on something.
There was a dude and I always forget his name.
I apologize, I'm an asshole. He was the head of
antiquities and he didn't let anybody fucking investigate anything over
there for years. What was his name? Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Oh, Zachie jwas.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Right, right? So can you kind of go into that
a little bit, Like what's the controversy with him? Was
he stopping people from like a studying all the pyramids
and stuff?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, there's a lot with him. I mean, he lost
his title due to I guess he was something some
corruption with the government, I guess, so they stripped him
of his title with the old government, like he was
taking government payouts or something. I don't really know the
exact details behind it, but again, among he he was.
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I know at one point he was debating Graham Hancock
about the age of the Sphinx because Graham Hancock is
pushing the idea that it's considerably older than what modern
historians are saying, and so, and he ended up getting
all fired up about that. He he really is, uh
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he I feel like he hates the ancient Aliens stuff
so much, and and the the people that think that
the Egyptian monuments were older than they are that pisses
him off too. And I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
If it's his ego or if he's just like fed
up with it. I don't know what his deal is,
but he hates he hates that topic so much, and
he is adamant that what modern history states is the
actual truth.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay, Yeah, I was kind of surprised to hear that,
what there was a new study done on like scanning
the fucking pyramids, because I always heard that that guy
didn't let people or just cause a lot of problems.
You brought up Graham Hancock, and uh, well, we'll get
into that a little bit later about what he says
about the sphinx, because I have a question for you
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about that that will we'll we'll we'll get to that.
But you mentioning this study being that old, I didn't
know that. It seems like, this is just another fucking
TikTok reel that went wild and everybody set their pants
about because it's from two Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, it was one of those things. It got brought
up in a press conference, I believe, and it was
brought up by one of the reporters from info Wars,
So you know, I guess that says everything you need
to know about his credentials. But he brought it up,
and I think because he brought that up recently, that
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is kind of what made this all come up again,
because I mean, let's let's be real, all this stuff
is it makes for good TikTok videos, you know, it's
it's he can make a minute long video talking Oh
my god, this was just recently found. You show the
images and blah blah blah and very little info. You
just kind of throw it out there. And but all
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these people aren't reading academic papers, so not a lot
of people would have actually read this in twenty twenty two.
But because it was just recently talked about at a
press conference, people grabbed that and then it's, you know,
just easy content to make. So it made the rounds
on the internet, just like everything does. And then after
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it made its rounds, it just goes quiet, and that's
that's that. We probably won't hear about it again. It
probably won't be peer reviewed in ten years, and maybe
someone on some conspiracy podcast ten years from now will
bring this up and be like, did you know in
twenty twenty two there was a study that was done
analyzing underground or they found them, and they'll be talking
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about it then, and then it'll bubble back up again
in twenty twenty. It'll be like the fucking face on
Mars all over.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Again, right right, Yeah, good point. It's interesting. They're they're
calling it a huge underground city. You know, it's it's
it's changing. And that's why I wanted to wait. They
I got it from this article I found from Egypt
in the I'll put it in the show notes. It's
got a lot of good information on it, and I
kind of wanted to hear what the people of Egypt
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and the experts over there were saying about this, because
it's it is, it is tremendous. It is crazy. Archaeological
researcher at the University of Denver, Lawrence Conyers, was said
in an interview that this is a huge exaggeration and
former Egyptian Minister of Antiquities, pardon me for destroying the
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pronunciation that I'm bad at it. You guys know, mister
Madou Aldamati called the claims utterly baseless. So it's not
just peer reviewed, and they mentioned that it's not peer reviewed. Egyptolists,
Egyptologist and former Director General of the Giza Pyramids Area
mister Hussin ab Del Bizarre says this study lacks the
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most basic standards of proper scientific research. It seems to
be something blown out of proportion. Now you had said
that this is not peer reviewed. The fact that it's
from twenty twenty two and it's yet to be peer
reviewed is interesting to me. Why do you think they're
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not reviewing this if this is true.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I think whether it's true or not, I don't think
it'll be peer reviewed because people don't want to get
their hands on the mess. Like think about going back
to that little mummy from Steven Greer, and there was
one dude who was willing to do it, and people
talk so much shit about that dude just for trying
to do it, you know, just because he was willing
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to test this thing because it was such a ridiculous
claim that was being made. They're like, you call yourself
a scientist because you're But I mean, I think that's
like the very nature of scientific thought, you know, like
be willing to take the chance on the ridiculous for
the small smallest percentage that it might be real. And
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then you you are now tied with history at this
point because you are the one who was doing the
study on it. But I don't think a lot of
people want to want to do that because if not true,
then it could impact their their own reputation, Like, oh,
this is the guy who was willing to review the
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claims that that there's thousands of feet of chambers underneath
the Great Pyramid. So I don't think whether it's real
or not, people are even going to give it a look.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
That's crazy and so unfortunate. I mean, like you if
I know it was in for Wars, but they knew
about it, and this is this is incredible to me.
I got to ask you, like a besides, like what
is it? What was your first impression when you saw
these computer generated images of what's supposedly down there?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, like with all things, I just thought it was
too good to be true. Whenever I see something that's
so fucking cool, I'm always like, no, there's no way
that's it's way too cool to be real. Well, and usually.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I'm right.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
This I I don't I don't know. I don't know
what they could possibly be. You know that the images
make it look like they're pillars, But are they pillars?
Are they hollow? Is it maybe not pillars? Maybe they're
they're something else altogether, maybe buildings, maybe chambers.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
What is it? And what purpose does it serve?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Right, And we'll get into some of the theories about
what it could be, what the pyramids are in general.
But one thing that I thought of when I first
saw this was Graham Hancock. When you're talking about the pyramids.
There's of course always been debate if people can actually
fucking do that shit. I don't think people understand, uh,
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the power of slave labor and the amount of people
that we're working on this thing. There's been plenty of
technologies that have been lost to humanity. Then easy examples,
what is like the Roman aquatic concrete, Like they made
a concrete that can set in the water, and that
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wasn't rediscovered for us, you know, thousands of years. So
I think when I saw this, I was like, okay,
just let's just say that men built the pyramids. We
can go through how there's a couple theories that we
can touch on, but there's one in particular that I
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saw a while back to where they were kind of
building a wall around the base of the pyramid and
then filling it with water and basically barging stones and
building it, you know, as long as as they built
and then just disassembled this after they were done, And
that kind of made me think of Graham Hancock's water
level theory, the water markings on the Sphinx. I can
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believe that man made the pyramids. I don't believe that
man can build six thousand feet down in the fucking desert.
I think it's absolutely bizarre. Those pillars have spirals around them.
I instantly thought about those spirals being some type of
ventilation or the columns being ventilation and the spirals maybe
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being a staircase down there to those big, huge rectangle
rooms that it looks that apparently are four thousand feet
four thousand feet tall rooms. That's gigantic, So.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They would have had to dig a hole out of
the ground four thousand feet and then build this, and
then it would have had to have been covered up,
and then the the pyramid would have been built on
top of it. But I mean, there's evidence in Greek
architecture of large of like temples and things like that
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being built on the sites of places that are all
already existed, and it's got different architecture and everything. But
this is something else Graham Hancock talks about where these
the architecture is completely different. Where the ancient Romans used
or the Greeks built, had smaller blocks. They're built on
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these these foundations that have these giant, huge blocks that
don't match up with the way that they would have
built foundations at the time. But the foundation for these
temples were built on top of these big rocks that
were already there. And I say rocks they were they
were obviously something that was queried and and shaped and
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everything and put into place, but it was something that
already existed there when when they decided to build their temple.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, and that makes sense, right, Like if you find
an area and then that's that's the big place to
build it already it looks like it can hold weight
and and be good foundation to build a structure like that,
and there's I was just listening to something in shame
on me for not remembering, but it was, you know,
a story of somebody's journal from from the time of
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of the Pyramids, and and they remember traveling somewhere and
I think I think it was before the Pyramids, and
they were attacked by bandits and they they ended up
ditching everything and running into like the structure nearby, and
they in their in their journals, they noted that that
there's already ancient, ancient structures there, just ancient and like
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if like if this is to be man made, we
can't fathom the time it took to make the Pyramids,
like it's it's it's insane. Imagine we got to add
the time it took to build this all the ship underneath. Now,
is that possible?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I think, if anything, it would If it's real, let's
let's start there. If it's real, I think it would
indicate that there is an older civilization that predates the
ancient Egyptians and that they're likely started the process for
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whatever these are, and then it was finished and capped
off with the Pyramids. That's that's my thought. If it's real. Again,
If it's real.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
It's just incredible, you know. That's that's why I thought
of Graham Hancock and the water line on the Sphinx.
Do you think that, I mean, the area must have
been underwater at some point in time. Do you think
that water was used to move sand to get that deep?
Is that is that a possible day?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Wouldn't It wasn't actually underwater, It was just like around
I think it was twelve thousand, five hundred years ago
when the alternative theory of when when the Sphinx was built.
During that period of time, there was pretty significant rainfall
in the area, so it would have been more like
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a rather than a desert. It probably would have been
more like a rainforest sort of situation, or like a
tropical area. So it would have been very very different
landscape at that point in time. So I know the
theory that the pyramids are power plants that involved utilizing water,
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which I would assume would be drawn from the Nile.
We know there's water can be used for all sorts
of things. We've even got fucking those those blasters like
the or the blasters, the pressure washers where you use
fucking high pressure water to strip paint off things, you know,
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like you can do a lot of shit with water. Yeah,
can make ship float. You dig a hole underneath it,
fill it with water, and the debris from the bottom
of float up.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah. Yeah, that's That's been a long time theory that
the pyramids were power plants. Can you tell me about that,
because you sent me a picture earlier that was very
very interesting. I wonder if there was hypothesy, hypothesis or what.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, well, all right, so with the pyramids, there's there's
a few different things related to pyramid power. There's there's
the power plant theory, which some would argue is is
utterly ridiculous, but out of out of the the pyramid
power things, I think that's the more plausible. The other
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idea of pyramid power is that the structure of the
pyramid is what creates the power. There was a guy
in nineteen thirty named Antoine Bovis, and he was a
French ironmonger, and he wrote extensively about dowsing. Are you
familiar with with dowsing?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yes, sir, all right.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
So for anyone that isn't, it's you might remember from
old cartoons. They would find like if somebody was lost
in the woods or whatever they would or in the
desert they would find a y shaped stick and it
would guide them to water. That's that's essentially the idea
of dowsing. And he would write extensively about dowsing. But
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he also wrote about pyramids and the structure of the pyramids,
and he had a theory that pyramids would be able
to work in preservation, so like preserving food or preserving
plant matter or corpses. The story around this, which the
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story is kind of weird, because there's a legend around
how he came to this this theory, but this legend
itself is completely debunked by Bovs. So the legend is
that Bobus visited Egypt and went into the Great Pyramid,
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and he was going on the tour there, and he
went into the king's chamber, and in the king's chamber
apparently at this time I would highly doubt if it's
still a thing, but at the time, apparently there was
a garbage can that they would keep inside the king's
chamber to dispose of any animals that wandered into the
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pyramid and ended up dying there. And then they're throwing
in this can and Apparently, according to legend, he deduced
that the carcasses were not decaying in a normal matter,
and based on that, determined that the structure of the
pyramid was somehow responsible for preserving them. But like I said,
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there's the discrepancy. In Bovas's own writings, he stated he
had never been to Egypt, but he made this hypothesis
after he himself had conducted experiments using a housing pendulum.
But I've got an excerpt where he talks about it
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from one of his writings, and he says, I have
supposed that Egyptians were already very good dowsers and had
oriented their pyramid by means of rod and pendulum. Being
unable to go there to experiment and verify the radiations
of the pyramid, I have built with cardboard some pyramids
that you can see now, and I was astonished when
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having built a regular pyramid and oriented it, I found
the positive at the east, the negative at the west,
and at the north and south dual positive and dual negative.
Since with the help of our positive two thousand degree
magnet plates, we can mummify small animals, could the pyramid
have the same property. I tried, as you can observe
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with the small fish and a little piece of meat
still hanging. I succeed totally. So he's claiming that he
did this experiment in a cardboard pyramid and that it
was effective. Going along with that kind of I guess
he was inspired a bit. There was a Czechoslovakian man
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in nineteen forty nine named Carol durbl and he actually
filed for a patent on an item that he dubbed
the Pharaoh's shaving device. And what this was was essentially
a model pyramid that was supposed to keep the edges
on razors sharp longer. And the way it was supposed
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to work was you would place the razor inside the
magnetic field within the pyramid so that the sharp edge
of the pyramid would line up with the direction of
the magnetic lines. And I believe he have it set
up so it was going north south, the edge of
the blade would be going north south, and the shape
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of the pyramid was supposed to focus Earth's magnetic field.
But Durbil couldn't go into detail on why this actually worked,
and whether he could not or he would not, I
don't know, but there was actually precedence for his claim
going back to nineteen thirty three, and there was a
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letter that someone had written into the Times, and the
Times actually published and in the letter, this person wrote
that he had figured out a way to keep the
edge of razors sharper longer. And what you would do
is you would get out your compass at home, and
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you would line up the north south position on the compass,
and you would line up your razors in concert with
that north south line. And if you did that, the
edge of your razor would last considerably longer. And the
guy who wrote in on this said that he found
out about this, someone told him about this at the
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turn of the century in nineteen hundred. So there's no
I mean, that's about as far back as these claims go,
I guess. So I don't know if this guy was
making it up or if it was like a wives
tale sort of thing that he took to heart and
just kind of assumes that it's the way it goes.
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But Eric von Danikin also referenced the preservative power of
pyramids by claiming that mummies had been preserved by some
unknown scientific process in Egypt. The thing is with a
lot of these theories, whether it be ancient aliens or
the power plant theory, the ideas that the pyramids were
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not tombs, they were used for another purpose, and the
fact that there's never been any bodies found there or
any treasure or anything would seemed to indicate that maybe
burial was not the reason for this. But as you
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can imagine, it's pretty easy to debunk these claims. There
was experiments in the seventies. It was written about in
a book by Terence Hines called Pseudoscience and the Paranormal,
and he wrote about these experiments that were done in
the seventies where they were trying to preserve meat or
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plant matter using the structure of a pyramid. And they
did that. They would take the same thing and put
it in other shaped containers, and what they found was
that there was no difference. It rotted at the exact
same time. Then they tried the razor technique, also didn't work.
There was even an episode of MythBusters that was devoted
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to these claims. It aired in two thousand and five,
and they were able to prove that all of these
claims were false. Permid, the shape of the pyramid did
not preserve anything, did not sharpen your razors or keep
them sharper longer.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It was.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
It's all a load of bullshit, as as you can imagine.
But oddly enough, there was a hockey team, may have
been the Toronto Maple Leafs, but they were losing. They
they had just lost their last two home games and
they were going into a series. They ended up well.
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They were in a series of seven, and they ended
up after losing their their first two games in the series,
they started they set up a pyramid in the locker
room and every player before the game would stand under
this pyramid for four minutes, and they ended up winning
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the next three games, but then they ended up losing
the series in the end. So maybe it was just coincidence.
But you know, sometimes sometimes that placebo effect works, so
you convince people that it's going to work, and it
does work because they believe it's going.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
To work right right, And that's a very powerful thing.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But the this is that I feel
like this stuff is more like New Age type stuff,
like you know, the crystal butt plug sort of thing.
But the idea that the pyramid was actually a power
plant is there's a little bit of evidence that might
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support that. I don't want to go so far as
to say like that that it's definitive evidence. But there
is some evidence here, So I some people that listen
to Joe Rogan might recognize the name Christopher Dunn. I
don't know. I know that he was on last last year.
I don't know if he had if he had been
on before that or not. I don't really listen to
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Joe Rogan, but I didn't know about this one. But
he uh, he's a retired aerospace engineer and he spent
years analyzing the pyramid, doing a lot of research. He
actually wrote the book GI's a power Plant where he
It's a book solely devoted to his studies on the
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Great Pyramid and why he thinks this was part of
a power plant. But he was talking about when he
went on Joe Rogan, he was talking about some of
the I guess engineering behind it, or what it would
take to how they were able to do this, And
he was talking about the northern shaft of the pyramid,
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which he said as an appearance similar to a tube
like structure which would be used to transmit microwaves and
electromagnetic energy. And what they would do is they would
mix two chemicals and two chemicals would get introduced into
the Queen's chamber and they would boil off the hydrogen,
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and the Queen's chamber was used as reaction chamber where
the hydrogen was produced, and then hydrogen would fill the
interior spaces of the Great Pyramid and flow into the
King's chamber. So basically what he's theorizing is that they
would have used these two separate chemicals, poured them into
the shafts down the shafts into the Queen's Chamber, which
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would mix there boil off hydrogen particles, and then it
would trigger the energy that would then be used to
I guess get broadcast through the pyramid, for lack of
a better term, or emitted through the pyramid. But there
was a study done in twenty eighteen. A group of
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researchers from ITMO University in Russia was doing the study
and the ITMO University it stands for Information Technologies, Mechanics
and Optics, so they're a renowned technical school. But it's
a state supported university, so it'd be like like a
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public university here, not a private institution. But they they
did they were conducting research there and there they or
I shouldn't say they're They were conducting experiments on a
model based on the Great Pyramids, and the focus was
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the response of the pyramid to waves within wavelengths between
six hundred and fifty six and one nine hundred and
sixty eight feet, which is a range commonly associated with
radio frequencies. So they built these model pyramids and set
it up as if it was like this environment. Basically,
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they were treating it like an environment, so they were
they what they were trying to do.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Is make it.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
So that they could like block out any external factors.
They want to be able to completely control everything in there,
so they were trying to keep it away from anything
within Earth's atmosphere, trying to rule out the surrounding landscape,
and keeping everything as I guess close to being in
(33:17):
its own bubble as possible. But then in doing this,
they were looking to examine how the pyramid, how the
pyramid interacted with incoming waves, so they were doing electromagnetic
experiments under they were trying to make it as realistic
conditions as possible. So they built this pyramid on top
(33:39):
of a limestone's surface because at the location in Giza
where the pyramids are, they actually do have a limestone
base to them. So after they were done conducting these experiments,
they revealed that the internal structure of the pyramid, including
the three chambers, was able to gather and focus electromagnetic
(34:03):
energy that was received from the waves that they were remitting.
So in their theoretical models, again this was all structures
they built. It wasn't the actual pyramid. They were just
trying to replicate the inside of the pyramid. But on
their theoretical models, when the waves at specific frequencies interacted
(34:25):
with the pyramid, they excited what they called multipole resonances,
and they showed specifically that the King's Chamber, which is
located near the center of the Great Pyramid, seemed to
concentrate electromatic magnetic energy more effectively than any of the
other chambers did.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Bizarre.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, but again this wasn't in These experiments were not
conducted in the actual pyramid. It was a model that
they had fabricated. So you know, you can make of
that what you will. But this is a state sponsored
technical college, so I I don't think that they'd be
(35:05):
you know, fucking around and doing some shady bullshit. But
I mean, right, it's a state sponsored Russia, Russian school.
So I guess make of that what you will. You
can dry your own conclusions or opinions based on that alone.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I suppose it's kind of like a pyramid. I mean,
it's like a triangle above ground.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, it was just a flat triangle that we drew
on the floor and that's you know, Yeah, we drew
a little square and that's the King's chamber and no,
they actually there's They've got diagrams showing where they were
testing the the electromagnetic waves, and you can see how
(35:46):
the King's Chamber seemed to resonate the highest. But it
also seemed to indicate that the limestone base had a
purpose for directing the energy kind of like it was
like the like think of the shape of the pyramid,
so it'd be like that would be like where the
(36:07):
energy would start to build and then it would get
channeled up through the point. I guess, mm hmm. But
I've mentioned before on the show about Nikola Tesla and
how he had to design for a perpetual energy machine
that looks very similar to the cross section of the
Great Pyramid, really complete with underground chambers that would house
(36:30):
water and chambers for filling or for the gas to
build up and produce the energy. Yeah, it's it's not exactly,
but it's very very close to what the cross section
of the pyramid looks like. So that picture that I
sent you that it looks very similar to that.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Mm hmmm, that's very interesting. So yeah, so these things
under the pyramids could be the what is it four
thousand feet rectangle rooms are chambers for.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Water maybe hmmm. Or maybe it's that's something that would
help to harness the energy or store the energy maybe,
or maybe they had a way to transmit the energy underground.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Rather than through the air, right right.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Tesla always talked about how you'd be able to send
energy through the air, and that was part of that.
That was the sign or the reason behind the perpetual
energy machine that he was trying to create. But he
he believed that the pyramids themselves held secrets that were
(37:44):
related to electro magnetic magnetism. Wow, I cannot talk. He
believed that the pyramids themselves held secrets related to electromagnetism.
He also thought that they had the ability to store
energy and potentially even had the universal code or what
(38:05):
he referred to as the mathematical language, and that they
may have been designed to harness and utilize energy from
celestial bodies. But he was he seemed to really be
into the idea of the potential that the pyramids had
for storing and moving electricity or energy, and he was
(38:29):
thinking that they could have been used to power the
areas around them. And part of Dunn's book actually shows
that this could have been a network along the Nile.
There's a lot of pyramids that seemed to be situated
within proximity to the Nile that kind of go in
(38:54):
like it almost looks like it would be a network
if they were Think of him like power plants that
we have today that are connected with with our power lines, Like,
that's how these would be, except without the power lines,
these would be the all the pyramids along the way
here would be the power hub that would give energy
for the area.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
That's that's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, And I mean, if that's true, what I then
then Tesla was able to figure that out independently of
anything that the because any anything that the Egyptians would
have had about it would have been in the Library
of Alexandria when it was burned down. So we wouldn't
(39:37):
have any record of that, but he was able to
kind of look at it and figure out what it was,
and like I said, his plans for the Perpetual Energy
Machine very closely mimic the cross section of the pyramid.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
What do you think about that when you when you
hear about the burning of the Library of Alexandria. I mean,
do you I kind of in my mind when you
think about when you think about it in relation to
the pyramids, like maybe they were just some type of
insane weapon and they were just like just just destroy
any writings of it or how to replicate it, Like
(40:11):
we it'll take too like two hundred years to build this.
We're not going to rebuild this, but make it like
render it unusable and destroy all evidence that could detail
anything about how this fucking thing works. Maybe, yeah, well
I think that.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I mean I've heard it said that the burning of
Alexandria sent science and mathematics back like a thousand years,
So like we would be far more advanced now if
we were able to keep those records, because a lot
of you know, without having those records anymore, a lot
of civilization had to relearn a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Stuff just devastating just to.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Find different ways to do it, when instead we could
have been improving on things all along.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Justin devastating.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah. Yeah. But the as to why the pyramids, you know,
why whatever happened with the pyramids to make them stop
working or why they're they're no longer in uh working
order or producing energy or whatever. Chris Dunn actually talks
about it in one of his books, and he believes
(41:26):
that there was a huge explosion inside the pyramid, which
he thinks was likely the result of an earthquake induced
power surge. So an earthquake happened, producing a spike in
the power and then the hydrogen when that exploded, it
was too much and fucked everything up. But in a
(41:50):
book that was written about the pyramids and temples of Giza,
there was an author that had written that there was
inside the king's chamber there was a force that he
was well, he was able to detect that the walls
in the chamber had been pushed out by over an
(42:11):
inch from their original position. Ooh, so it would have
taken a powerful force to do that, because it was
all the walls in the chamber.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Is that something that can happen gradually? Over time or
was it a forceful event.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
The King's Chamber is the only chamber to display this
sort of adjustment. Yeah, okay. There are also some cracks
in the ceiling beams that the explanation for them from
a historical standpoint is that it was damage from an earthquake.
(42:45):
But again, there's no similar damage in any of the
lower parts of the pyramid, So you'd think if it
was due to an earthquake from below, that the tremors
would have went upwards and created cracks in the lower
levels rather than going up and just cracking this one area.
It doesn't really make a lot of sense. Wow, there
(43:06):
was At one point Dunn went to He had originally
gone to Egypt, went through the pyramid and everything, and
was developing this theory. But he went back in nineteen
ninety nine, and in ninety nine the pyramid had been
thoroughly cleaned, so what he originally thought was limestone in
(43:28):
the Grand Gallery was actually highly polished granite, which would
have made sense. If this was supposed to be a
chamber where the hydrogen was being produced, they would need
something that would be able to sustain heavy heat. He
was also able to see that there were actual scorch
(43:52):
marks over a particular area where the hydrogen would have
been converted, which would have pretty us flames or smaller explosions.
And there were bird marks all along the ceiling in
this area that lined up perfectly with where the vent
would have been to release the fire or the heat. Hmmm.
(44:15):
So there's some you know, like, if the damage was
done by an earthquake, why are their scorch marks right?
What caused the scorch marks? And there's not an explanation
for that? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
That's weird. It's just it seems like there's a lot
more evidence for these things being not just big structures.
I mean like when when you were a kid, what
did you think about the Pyramids? For me, when I
saw them, they're just not They're not just a monument,
Like that's insane to that. There's like we're just gonna
build a big triangle for fun. To me, it clearly
(44:53):
has to have a purpose a function.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, and it would make sense. And I know lot
of modern historians. If you start saying they're not burial structures,
you're instantly you're like, oh, you're a fucking idiot. But honestly,
you know, they they talk about how there's no bodies,
and then they they say that it was looted, and
that's clearly an explanation for why there's no bodies. But
(45:18):
there's no hieroglyphs, there's nothing indicating who was there, no
treasure at all. And again if they if there were robbers,
they would have stolen the treasure. But there's nothing, you know,
there's no decoration. Everything seems very utilitarian in there, like
it's it wasn't there for its esthetic purposes, it was
(45:39):
there to serve a function.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
And then you've got the weird things like like gat
and Brink's door that they opened a few years ago,
and it's this little, tiny narrow passage that goes through
the pyramid that has a little door in it. But
it's so small that they they had to use a
remote controlled car with a drill on it to drill
(46:03):
a hole through the door and then slide a little
camera through so they could see what was on the other.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Side, what was on the other side.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Another fucking door. They I remember they were doing a
live broadcast of it on National Geographic Channel and I
was so pumped because I had just read this book
called The Stargate conspiracy, and they were talking about the
Great Pyramid and Gatton Brinkstore. So I was like, all
(46:31):
amped a bottle, like fuck yeah, let's see what's behind it.
And they get in there and it's another fucking door
on the other side.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
I remember this, I remember this. That's crazy, dude. What
if whoever helped them build pyramids or it is built
by aliens or with the assistance of multi dimensional all
knowing beings, that there's just a door that they've been
waiting for us to open for thousands and thousands of
years that'll signal them to save humanity and they just
(47:00):
fucking all died off by now. Man.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, it sucks that we'll never know, you know, no
matter what, Like we're at the end of the day.
The only thing we're gonna know is what is in
the history books, what's being written about it by modern
academics and historians, and that's the truth, because that's as
best as we know. You know, you can have all
(47:24):
these theories, but there's really no way to know for
sure unless these fucking four thousand foot things under the
pyramid are discovered as being real. We go down there
and we're like, oh shit, and then we find the
secret passage underneath the Sphinx that has all the good
(47:46):
shit that was smuggled out of the Library of Alexander.
And then again we're like, oh shit. And then we
start having all these fucking Egyptian wizards out there and
they start raising the dead and casting lightning down and
summoning the great Old Ones, and then we're all fucked.
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Don't know, don't do
What's up everybody, Thanks for listening to the what Cast?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
How you're doing, Man?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Doing all right? Weather's starting to get nice. The plants
are starting to grow them. We actually just planted some
stuff this weekend, so things are looking up nice.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's been weird over here. It's been It hasn't gotten
past sixty for like two weeks. Then it got to
eighty five for three days, and now I won't stop raining.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We did have some rain this weekend. I actually it
was kind of it was a mild weekend. It was
like in the forties. But I just found a fucking
toad on my sidewalk earlier this evening, sick and yeah,
it was so fucking cold. It's like forty degrees out
right now and it's just sitting there. So I scooped
it up and put it in my flower bed so
(01:11):
it can at least bury itself under the mulch if
it needs to. But it was a big fat guy.
I don't know what the dolly's been eating. It's been
cold as shit, but it was cool, the first one
I've seen this year.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It was awesome and you just let you grab him
and he didn't trip out or did he do that
creepy screen.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I just scooped him right up and he was cool.
I think it was because he was cold, so he
wasn't really all that feisty. Oh your hands are so warm.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, everyone, they found some weird shit under the pyramids,
and you bet you're bitby. We're going to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, they found the secret to move nirelet ho top
and the old ones are returning.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It almost seems that way. We waited a little while
to cover this to see what information came out, and
there's been some updates about the size of these things
that have been found under the pyramids, the Giza Pyramids,
and you may have heard that in the person reporting this,
Mike finally found out. It's a gentleman by the name
of Filipo Beyondy, and he's got a pH and Doppler
(02:17):
tomography and underground imaging with this special new radar what
they call it pulse radar. Right, it's I.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Don't know exactly what the hell it is. It's it's
called the SAR, but it's it's a synthetic aperture radar.
I don't really know the science behind.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It me neither. I tried.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I don't know that's the deal.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So we'll call it the new magic radar. But they've
they've used this radar on the pyramids and found these structures,
and again there's there's new numbers. The study that he
did using this radar has detected eight vertical cylindrical pillars
extending over two thousand in one hundred feet under the pyramid,
(03:03):
with an additional unknown structures that look to be like
big rectangular rooms connected to some of these big cylinders
that reached down another four thousand feet, So this huge
structure altogether goes down over six thousand, five hundred fucking feet.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, that's crazy. If it's true, that's I mean, or well,
I shouldn't say it's true. If it's accurate, that's crazy.
And the one thing I do want to put out
there because this was something that was new that well
I say new, it was something I was getting a
lot of attention recently, so a lot of people thought
(03:47):
it was a new discovery. But this paper was written
in twenty twenty two and as of yet, it has
not been peer reviewed, so I think that's important to
note it was not something that has been peer reviewed yet.
So while this guy's got, you know, legitimate credentials, and
(04:07):
he's putting this out there. I think it is important
to note that it's not peer reviewed. But for the
conspiracy minded among us, you know, we can always say
that that things that challenge establishment really in any case,
but but most but a lot of the time, establishment
science or what's established as being accurate history, things that
(04:31):
that alter that. There's a lot of people that say
that that gets covered up because it fucks with the
status quo, and it a lot of it I think
has to do with ego. But you know, you could
go that route, I suppose, and say, well, they're covering
they're just the reason it's not peer reviewed is because
(04:51):
no one wants to get in on that, and they're
all in on the cover up. Or you could also
look at it as being people in academic circles are
hesitant to put their reputation on the line, so by
giving something some ridiculous claim credence, even though there might
be accuracy or you know, something to these findings, because
(05:16):
it's so such a ridiculous claim to make, people are
gonna be hesitant to even sign off on it or
review it for accuracy and to make sure it's something real.
But if it is real, like I don't, I would
have to assume at this point most of you have
seen the computer imaging of what was supposed to have
(05:39):
been found, And if that's true, what was the purpose?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Right, Yeah, that's that's well. I mean before we get
into that, I wanted to kind of touch on something.
There was a dude and I always forget his name.
I apologize, I'm an asshole. He was the head of
antiquities and he didn't let anybody fucking investigate anything over
there for years. What was his name? Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Oh, Zachie jwas.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Right, right? So can you kind of go into that
a little bit, Like what's the controversy with him? Was
he stopping people from like a studying all the pyramids
and stuff?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, there's a lot with him. I mean, he lost
his title due to I guess he was something some
corruption with the government, I guess, so they stripped him
of his title with the old government, like he was
taking government payouts or something. I don't really know the
exact details behind it, but again, among he he was.
(06:40):
I know at one point he was debating Graham Hancock
about the age of the Sphinx because Graham Hancock is
pushing the idea that it's considerably older than what modern
historians are saying, and so, and he ended up getting
all fired up about that. He he really is, uh
(07:03):
he I feel like he hates the ancient Aliens stuff
so much, and and the the people that think that
the Egyptian monuments were older than they are that pisses
him off too. And I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
If it's his ego or if he's just like fed
up with it. I don't know what his deal is,
but he hates he hates that topic so much, and
he is adamant that what modern history states is the
actual truth.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay, Yeah, I was kind of surprised to hear that,
what there was a new study done on like scanning
the fucking pyramids, because I always heard that that guy
didn't let people or just cause a lot of problems.
You brought up Graham Hancock, and uh, well, we'll get
into that a little bit later about what he says
about the sphinx, because I have a question for you
(07:53):
about that that will we'll we'll we'll get to that.
But you mentioning this study being that old, I didn't
know that. It seems like, this is just another fucking
TikTok reel that went wild and everybody set their pants
about because it's from two Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, it was one of those things. It got brought
up in a press conference, I believe, and it was
brought up by one of the reporters from info Wars,
So you know, I guess that says everything you need
to know about his credentials. But he brought it up,
and I think because he brought that up recently, that
(08:30):
is kind of what made this all come up again,
because I mean, let's let's be real, all this stuff
is it makes for good TikTok videos, you know, it's
it's he can make a minute long video talking Oh
my god, this was just recently found. You show the
images and blah blah blah and very little info. You
just kind of throw it out there. And but all
(08:54):
these people aren't reading academic papers, so not a lot
of people would have actually read this in twenty twenty two.
But because it was just recently talked about at a
press conference, people grabbed that and then it's, you know,
just easy content to make. So it made the rounds
on the internet, just like everything does. And then after
(09:16):
it made its rounds, it just goes quiet, and that's
that's that. We probably won't hear about it again. It
probably won't be peer reviewed in ten years, and maybe
someone on some conspiracy podcast ten years from now will
bring this up and be like, did you know in
twenty twenty two there was a study that was done
analyzing underground or they found them, and they'll be talking
(09:38):
about it then, and then it'll bubble back up again
in twenty twenty. It'll be like the fucking face on
Mars all over.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Again, right right, Yeah, good point. It's interesting. They're they're
calling it a huge underground city. You know, it's it's
it's changing. And that's why I wanted to wait. They
I got it from this article I found from Egypt
in the I'll put it in the show notes. It's
got a lot of good information on it, and I
kind of wanted to hear what the people of Egypt
(10:05):
and the experts over there were saying about this, because
it's it is, it is tremendous. It is crazy. Archaeological
researcher at the University of Denver, Lawrence Conyers, was said
in an interview that this is a huge exaggeration and
former Egyptian Minister of Antiquities, pardon me for destroying the
(10:27):
pronunciation that I'm bad at it. You guys know, mister
Madou Aldamati called the claims utterly baseless. So it's not
just peer reviewed, and they mentioned that it's not peer reviewed. Egyptolists,
Egyptologist and former Director General of the Giza Pyramids Area
mister Hussin ab Del Bizarre says this study lacks the
(10:51):
most basic standards of proper scientific research. It seems to
be something blown out of proportion. Now you had said
that this is not peer reviewed. The fact that it's
from twenty twenty two and it's yet to be peer
reviewed is interesting to me. Why do you think they're
(11:13):
not reviewing this if this is true.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I think whether it's true or not, I don't think
it'll be peer reviewed because people don't want to get
their hands on the mess. Like think about going back
to that little mummy from Steven Greer, and there was
one dude who was willing to do it, and people
talk so much shit about that dude just for trying
to do it, you know, just because he was willing
(11:39):
to test this thing because it was such a ridiculous
claim that was being made. They're like, you call yourself
a scientist because you're But I mean, I think that's
like the very nature of scientific thought, you know, like
be willing to take the chance on the ridiculous for
the small smallest percentage that it might be real. And
(12:01):
then you you are now tied with history at this
point because you are the one who was doing the
study on it. But I don't think a lot of
people want to want to do that because if not true,
then it could impact their their own reputation, Like, oh,
this is the guy who was willing to review the
(12:21):
claims that that there's thousands of feet of chambers underneath
the Great Pyramid. So I don't think whether it's real
or not, people are even going to give it a look.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
That's crazy and so unfortunate. I mean, like you if
I know it was in for Wars, but they knew
about it, and this is this is incredible to me.
I got to ask you, like a besides, like what
is it? What was your first impression when you saw
these computer generated images of what's supposedly down there?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, like with all things, I just thought it was
too good to be true. Whenever I see something that's
so fucking cool, I'm always like, no, there's no way
that's it's way too cool to be real. Well, and usually.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I'm right.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
This I I don't I don't know. I don't know
what they could possibly be. You know that the images
make it look like they're pillars, But are they pillars?
Are they hollow? Is it maybe not pillars? Maybe they're
they're something else altogether, maybe buildings, maybe chambers.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
What is it? And what purpose does it serve?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Right, And we'll get into some of the theories about
what it could be, what the pyramids are in general.
But one thing that I thought of when I first
saw this was Graham Hancock. When you're talking about the pyramids.
There's of course always been debate if people can actually
fucking do that shit. I don't think people understand, uh,
(13:52):
the power of slave labor and the amount of people
that we're working on this thing. There's been plenty of
technologies that have been lost to humanity. Then easy examples,
what is like the Roman aquatic concrete, Like they made
a concrete that can set in the water, and that
(14:13):
wasn't rediscovered for us, you know, thousands of years. So
I think when I saw this, I was like, okay,
just let's just say that men built the pyramids. We
can go through how there's a couple theories that we
can touch on, but there's one in particular that I
(14:34):
saw a while back to where they were kind of
building a wall around the base of the pyramid and
then filling it with water and basically barging stones and
building it, you know, as long as as they built
and then just disassembled this after they were done, And
that kind of made me think of Graham Hancock's water
level theory, the water markings on the Sphinx. I can
(14:57):
believe that man made the pyramids. I don't believe that
man can build six thousand feet down in the fucking desert.
I think it's absolutely bizarre. Those pillars have spirals around them.
I instantly thought about those spirals being some type of
ventilation or the columns being ventilation and the spirals maybe
(15:19):
being a staircase down there to those big, huge rectangle
rooms that it looks that apparently are four thousand feet
four thousand feet tall rooms. That's gigantic, So.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They would have had to dig a hole out of
the ground four thousand feet and then build this, and
then it would have had to have been covered up,
and then the the pyramid would have been built on
top of it. But I mean, there's evidence in Greek
architecture of large of like temples and things like that
(15:57):
being built on the sites of places that are all
already existed, and it's got different architecture and everything. But
this is something else Graham Hancock talks about where these
the architecture is completely different. Where the ancient Romans used
or the Greeks built, had smaller blocks. They're built on
(16:20):
these these foundations that have these giant, huge blocks that
don't match up with the way that they would have
built foundations at the time. But the foundation for these
temples were built on top of these big rocks that
were already there. And I say rocks they were they
were obviously something that was queried and and shaped and
(16:43):
everything and put into place, but it was something that
already existed there when when they decided to build their temple.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, and that makes sense, right, Like if you find
an area and then that's that's the big place to
build it already it looks like it can hold weight
and and be good foundation to build a structure like that,
and there's I was just listening to something in shame
on me for not remembering, but it was, you know,
a story of somebody's journal from from the time of
(17:13):
of the Pyramids, and and they remember traveling somewhere and
I think I think it was before the Pyramids, and
they were attacked by bandits and they they ended up
ditching everything and running into like the structure nearby, and
they in their in their journals, they noted that that
there's already ancient, ancient structures there, just ancient and like
(17:37):
if like if this is to be man made, we
can't fathom the time it took to make the Pyramids,
like it's it's it's insane. Imagine we got to add
the time it took to build this all the ship underneath. Now,
is that possible?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I think, if anything, it would If it's real, let's
let's start there. If it's real, I think it would
indicate that there is an older civilization that predates the
ancient Egyptians and that they're likely started the process for
(18:13):
whatever these are, and then it was finished and capped
off with the Pyramids. That's that's my thought. If it's real. Again,
If it's real.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
It's just incredible, you know. That's that's why I thought
of Graham Hancock and the water line on the Sphinx.
Do you think that, I mean, the area must have
been underwater at some point in time. Do you think
that water was used to move sand to get that deep?
Is that is that a possible day?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Wouldn't It wasn't actually underwater, It was just like around
I think it was twelve thousand, five hundred years ago
when the alternative theory of when when the Sphinx was built.
During that period of time, there was pretty significant rainfall
in the area, so it would have been more like
(19:05):
a rather than a desert. It probably would have been
more like a rainforest sort of situation, or like a
tropical area. So it would have been very very different
landscape at that point in time. So I know the
theory that the pyramids are power plants that involved utilizing water,
(19:29):
which I would assume would be drawn from the Nile.
We know there's water can be used for all sorts
of things. We've even got fucking those those blasters like
the or the blasters, the pressure washers where you use
fucking high pressure water to strip paint off things, you know,
(19:52):
like you can do a lot of shit with water. Yeah,
can make ship float. You dig a hole underneath it,
fill it with water, and the debris from the bottom
of float up.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah. Yeah, that's That's been a long time theory that
the pyramids were power plants. Can you tell me about that,
because you sent me a picture earlier that was very
very interesting. I wonder if there was hypothesy, hypothesis or what.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, well, all right, so with the pyramids, there's there's
a few different things related to pyramid power. There's there's
the power plant theory, which some would argue is is
utterly ridiculous, but out of out of the the pyramid
power things, I think that's the more plausible. The other
(20:37):
idea of pyramid power is that the structure of the
pyramid is what creates the power. There was a guy
in nineteen thirty named Antoine Bovis, and he was a
French ironmonger, and he wrote extensively about dowsing. Are you
familiar with with dowsing?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yes, sir, all right.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
So for anyone that isn't, it's you might remember from
old cartoons. They would find like if somebody was lost
in the woods or whatever they would or in the
desert they would find a y shaped stick and it
would guide them to water. That's that's essentially the idea
of dowsing. And he would write extensively about dowsing. But
(21:20):
he also wrote about pyramids and the structure of the pyramids,
and he had a theory that pyramids would be able
to work in preservation, so like preserving food or preserving
plant matter or corpses. The story around this, which the
(21:41):
story is kind of weird, because there's a legend around
how he came to this this theory, but this legend
itself is completely debunked by Bovs. So the legend is
that Bobus visited Egypt and went into the Great Pyramid,
(22:03):
and he was going on the tour there, and he
went into the king's chamber, and in the king's chamber
apparently at this time I would highly doubt if it's
still a thing, but at the time, apparently there was
a garbage can that they would keep inside the king's
chamber to dispose of any animals that wandered into the
(22:24):
pyramid and ended up dying there. And then they're throwing
in this can and Apparently, according to legend, he deduced
that the carcasses were not decaying in a normal matter,
and based on that, determined that the structure of the
pyramid was somehow responsible for preserving them. But like I said,
(22:45):
there's the discrepancy. In Bovas's own writings, he stated he
had never been to Egypt, but he made this hypothesis
after he himself had conducted experiments using a housing pendulum.
But I've got an excerpt where he talks about it
(23:05):
from one of his writings, and he says, I have
supposed that Egyptians were already very good dowsers and had
oriented their pyramid by means of rod and pendulum. Being
unable to go there to experiment and verify the radiations
of the pyramid, I have built with cardboard some pyramids
that you can see now, and I was astonished when
(23:27):
having built a regular pyramid and oriented it, I found
the positive at the east, the negative at the west,
and at the north and south dual positive and dual negative.
Since with the help of our positive two thousand degree
magnet plates, we can mummify small animals, could the pyramid
have the same property. I tried, as you can observe
(23:51):
with the small fish and a little piece of meat
still hanging. I succeed totally. So he's claiming that he
did this experiment in a cardboard pyramid and that it
was effective. Going along with that kind of I guess
he was inspired a bit. There was a Czechoslovakian man
(24:13):
in nineteen forty nine named Carol durbl and he actually
filed for a patent on an item that he dubbed
the Pharaoh's shaving device. And what this was was essentially
a model pyramid that was supposed to keep the edges
on razors sharp longer. And the way it was supposed
(24:36):
to work was you would place the razor inside the
magnetic field within the pyramid so that the sharp edge
of the pyramid would line up with the direction of
the magnetic lines. And I believe he have it set
up so it was going north south, the edge of
the blade would be going north south, and the shape
(24:57):
of the pyramid was supposed to focus Earth's magnetic field.
But Durbil couldn't go into detail on why this actually worked,
and whether he could not or he would not, I
don't know, but there was actually precedence for his claim
going back to nineteen thirty three, and there was a
(25:20):
letter that someone had written into the Times, and the
Times actually published and in the letter, this person wrote
that he had figured out a way to keep the
edge of razors sharper longer. And what you would do
is you would get out your compass at home, and
(25:40):
you would line up the north south position on the compass,
and you would line up your razors in concert with
that north south line. And if you did that, the
edge of your razor would last considerably longer. And the
guy who wrote in on this said that he found
out about this, someone told him about this at the
(26:01):
turn of the century in nineteen hundred. So there's no
I mean, that's about as far back as these claims go,
I guess. So I don't know if this guy was
making it up or if it was like a wives
tale sort of thing that he took to heart and
just kind of assumes that it's the way it goes.
(26:23):
But Eric von Danikin also referenced the preservative power of
pyramids by claiming that mummies had been preserved by some
unknown scientific process in Egypt. The thing is with a
lot of these theories, whether it be ancient aliens or
the power plant theory, the ideas that the pyramids were
(26:46):
not tombs, they were used for another purpose, and the
fact that there's never been any bodies found there or
any treasure or anything would seemed to indicate that maybe
burial was not the reason for this. But as you
(27:06):
can imagine, it's pretty easy to debunk these claims. There
was experiments in the seventies. It was written about in
a book by Terence Hines called Pseudoscience and the Paranormal,
and he wrote about these experiments that were done in
the seventies where they were trying to preserve meat or
(27:28):
plant matter using the structure of a pyramid. And they
did that. They would take the same thing and put
it in other shaped containers, and what they found was
that there was no difference. It rotted at the exact
same time. Then they tried the razor technique, also didn't work.
There was even an episode of MythBusters that was devoted
(27:51):
to these claims. It aired in two thousand and five,
and they were able to prove that all of these
claims were false. Permid, the shape of the pyramid did
not preserve anything, did not sharpen your razors or keep
them sharper longer.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It was.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
It's all a load of bullshit, as as you can imagine.
But oddly enough, there was a hockey team, may have
been the Toronto Maple Leafs, but they were losing. They
they had just lost their last two home games and
they were going into a series. They ended up well.
(28:28):
They were in a series of seven, and they ended
up after losing their their first two games in the series,
they started they set up a pyramid in the locker
room and every player before the game would stand under
this pyramid for four minutes, and they ended up winning
(28:48):
the next three games, but then they ended up losing
the series in the end. So maybe it was just coincidence.
But you know, sometimes sometimes that placebo effect works, so
you convince people that it's going to work, and it
does work because they believe it's going.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
To work right right, And that's a very powerful thing.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But the this is that I feel
like this stuff is more like New Age type stuff,
like you know, the crystal butt plug sort of thing.
But the idea that the pyramid was actually a power
plant is there's a little bit of evidence that might
(29:32):
support that. I don't want to go so far as
to say like that that it's definitive evidence. But there
is some evidence here, So I some people that listen
to Joe Rogan might recognize the name Christopher Dunn. I
don't know. I know that he was on last last year.
I don't know if he had if he had been
on before that or not. I don't really listen to
(29:54):
Joe Rogan, but I didn't know about this one. But
he uh, he's a retired aerospace engineer and he spent
years analyzing the pyramid, doing a lot of research. He
actually wrote the book GI's a power Plant where he
It's a book solely devoted to his studies on the
(30:17):
Great Pyramid and why he thinks this was part of
a power plant. But he was talking about when he
went on Joe Rogan, he was talking about some of
the I guess engineering behind it, or what it would
take to how they were able to do this, And
he was talking about the northern shaft of the pyramid,
(30:37):
which he said as an appearance similar to a tube
like structure which would be used to transmit microwaves and
electromagnetic energy. And what they would do is they would
mix two chemicals and two chemicals would get introduced into
the Queen's chamber and they would boil off the hydrogen,
(30:57):
and the Queen's chamber was used as reaction chamber where
the hydrogen was produced, and then hydrogen would fill the
interior spaces of the Great Pyramid and flow into the
King's chamber. So basically what he's theorizing is that they
would have used these two separate chemicals, poured them into
the shafts down the shafts into the Queen's Chamber, which
(31:19):
would mix there boil off hydrogen particles, and then it
would trigger the energy that would then be used to
I guess get broadcast through the pyramid, for lack of
a better term, or emitted through the pyramid. But there
was a study done in twenty eighteen. A group of
(31:42):
researchers from ITMO University in Russia was doing the study
and the ITMO University it stands for Information Technologies, Mechanics
and Optics, so they're a renowned technical school. But it's
a state supported university, so it'd be like like a
(32:03):
public university here, not a private institution. But they they
did they were conducting research there and there they or
I shouldn't say they're They were conducting experiments on a
model based on the Great Pyramids, and the focus was
(32:25):
the response of the pyramid to waves within wavelengths between
six hundred and fifty six and one nine hundred and
sixty eight feet, which is a range commonly associated with
radio frequencies. So they built these model pyramids and set
it up as if it was like this environment. Basically,
(32:46):
they were treating it like an environment, so they were
they what they were trying to do.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Is make it.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
So that they could like block out any external factors.
They want to be able to completely control everything in there,
so they were trying to keep it away from anything
within Earth's atmosphere, trying to rule out the surrounding landscape,
and keeping everything as I guess close to being in
(33:17):
its own bubble as possible. But then in doing this,
they were looking to examine how the pyramid, how the
pyramid interacted with incoming waves, so they were doing electromagnetic
experiments under they were trying to make it as realistic
conditions as possible. So they built this pyramid on top
(33:39):
of a limestone's surface because at the location in Giza
where the pyramids are, they actually do have a limestone
base to them. So after they were done conducting these experiments,
they revealed that the internal structure of the pyramid, including
the three chambers, was able to gather and focus electromagnetic
(34:03):
energy that was received from the waves that they were remitting.
So in their theoretical models, again this was all structures
they built. It wasn't the actual pyramid. They were just
trying to replicate the inside of the pyramid. But on
their theoretical models, when the waves at specific frequencies interacted
(34:25):
with the pyramid, they excited what they called multipole resonances,
and they showed specifically that the King's Chamber, which is
located near the center of the Great Pyramid, seemed to
concentrate electromatic magnetic energy more effectively than any of the
other chambers did.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Bizarre.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, but again this wasn't in These experiments were not
conducted in the actual pyramid. It was a model that
they had fabricated. So you know, you can make of
that what you will. But this is a state sponsored
technical college, so I I don't think that they'd be
(35:05):
you know, fucking around and doing some shady bullshit. But
I mean, right, it's a state sponsored Russia, Russian school.
So I guess make of that what you will. You
can dry your own conclusions or opinions based on that alone.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I suppose it's kind of like a pyramid. I mean,
it's like a triangle above ground.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, it was just a flat triangle that we drew
on the floor and that's you know, Yeah, we drew
a little square and that's the King's chamber and no,
they actually there's They've got diagrams showing where they were
testing the the electromagnetic waves, and you can see how
(35:46):
the King's Chamber seemed to resonate the highest. But it
also seemed to indicate that the limestone base had a
purpose for directing the energy kind of like it was
like the like think of the shape of the pyramid,
so it'd be like that would be like where the
(36:07):
energy would start to build and then it would get
channeled up through the point. I guess, mm hmm. But
I've mentioned before on the show about Nikola Tesla and
how he had to design for a perpetual energy machine
that looks very similar to the cross section of the
Great Pyramid, really complete with underground chambers that would house
(36:30):
water and chambers for filling or for the gas to
build up and produce the energy. Yeah, it's it's not exactly,
but it's very very close to what the cross section
of the pyramid looks like. So that picture that I
sent you that it looks very similar to that.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Mm hmmm, that's very interesting. So yeah, so these things
under the pyramids could be the what is it four
thousand feet rectangle rooms are chambers for.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Water maybe hmmm. Or maybe it's that's something that would
help to harness the energy or store the energy maybe,
or maybe they had a way to transmit the energy underground.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Rather than through the air, right right.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Tesla always talked about how you'd be able to send
energy through the air, and that was part of that.
That was the sign or the reason behind the perpetual
energy machine that he was trying to create. But he
he believed that the pyramids themselves held secrets that were
(37:44):
related to electro magnetic magnetism. Wow, I cannot talk. He
believed that the pyramids themselves held secrets related to electromagnetism.
He also thought that they had the ability to store
energy and potentially even had the universal code or what
(38:05):
he referred to as the mathematical language, and that they
may have been designed to harness and utilize energy from
celestial bodies. But he was he seemed to really be
into the idea of the potential that the pyramids had
for storing and moving electricity or energy, and he was
(38:29):
thinking that they could have been used to power the
areas around them. And part of Dunn's book actually shows
that this could have been a network along the Nile.
There's a lot of pyramids that seemed to be situated
within proximity to the Nile that kind of go in
(38:54):
like it almost looks like it would be a network
if they were Think of him like power plants that
we have today that are connected with with our power lines, Like,
that's how these would be, except without the power lines,
these would be the all the pyramids along the way
here would be the power hub that would give energy
for the area.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
That's that's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, And I mean, if that's true, what I then
then Tesla was able to figure that out independently of
anything that the because any anything that the Egyptians would
have had about it would have been in the Library
of Alexandria when it was burned down. So we wouldn't
(39:37):
have any record of that, but he was able to
kind of look at it and figure out what it was,
and like I said, his plans for the Perpetual Energy
Machine very closely mimic the cross section of the pyramid.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
What do you think about that when you when you
hear about the burning of the Library of Alexandria. I mean,
do you I kind of in my mind when you
think about when you think about it in relation to
the pyramids, like maybe they were just some type of
insane weapon and they were just like just just destroy
any writings of it or how to replicate it, Like
(40:11):
we it'll take too like two hundred years to build this.
We're not going to rebuild this, but make it like
render it unusable and destroy all evidence that could detail
anything about how this fucking thing works. Maybe, yeah, well
I think that.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I mean I've heard it said that the burning of
Alexandria sent science and mathematics back like a thousand years,
So like we would be far more advanced now if
we were able to keep those records, because a lot
of you know, without having those records anymore, a lot
of civilization had to relearn a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Stuff just devastating just to.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Find different ways to do it, when instead we could
have been improving on things all along.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Justin devastating.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah. Yeah. But the as to why the pyramids, you know,
why whatever happened with the pyramids to make them stop
working or why they're they're no longer in uh working
order or producing energy or whatever. Chris Dunn actually talks
about it in one of his books, and he believes
(41:26):
that there was a huge explosion inside the pyramid, which
he thinks was likely the result of an earthquake induced
power surge. So an earthquake happened, producing a spike in
the power and then the hydrogen when that exploded, it
was too much and fucked everything up. But in a
(41:50):
book that was written about the pyramids and temples of Giza,
there was an author that had written that there was
inside the king's chamber there was a force that he
was well, he was able to detect that the walls
in the chamber had been pushed out by over an
(42:11):
inch from their original position. Ooh, so it would have
taken a powerful force to do that, because it was
all the walls in the chamber.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Is that something that can happen gradually? Over time or
was it a forceful event.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
The King's Chamber is the only chamber to display this
sort of adjustment. Yeah, okay. There are also some cracks
in the ceiling beams that the explanation for them from
a historical standpoint is that it was damage from an earthquake.
(42:45):
But again, there's no similar damage in any of the
lower parts of the pyramid, So you'd think if it
was due to an earthquake from below, that the tremors
would have went upwards and created cracks in the lower
levels rather than going up and just cracking this one area.
It doesn't really make a lot of sense. Wow, there
(43:06):
was At one point Dunn went to He had originally
gone to Egypt, went through the pyramid and everything, and
was developing this theory. But he went back in nineteen
ninety nine, and in ninety nine the pyramid had been
thoroughly cleaned, so what he originally thought was limestone in
(43:28):
the Grand Gallery was actually highly polished granite, which would
have made sense. If this was supposed to be a
chamber where the hydrogen was being produced, they would need
something that would be able to sustain heavy heat. He
was also able to see that there were actual scorch
(43:52):
marks over a particular area where the hydrogen would have
been converted, which would have pretty us flames or smaller explosions.
And there were bird marks all along the ceiling in
this area that lined up perfectly with where the vent
would have been to release the fire or the heat. Hmmm.
(44:15):
So there's some you know, like, if the damage was
done by an earthquake, why are their scorch marks right?
What caused the scorch marks? And there's not an explanation
for that? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
That's weird. It's just it seems like there's a lot
more evidence for these things being not just big structures.
I mean like when when you were a kid, what
did you think about the Pyramids? For me, when I
saw them, they're just not They're not just a monument,
Like that's insane to that. There's like we're just gonna
build a big triangle for fun. To me, it clearly
(44:53):
has to have a purpose a function.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, and it would make sense. And I know lot
of modern historians. If you start saying they're not burial structures,
you're instantly you're like, oh, you're a fucking idiot. But honestly,
you know, they they talk about how there's no bodies,
and then they they say that it was looted, and
that's clearly an explanation for why there's no bodies. But
(45:18):
there's no hieroglyphs, there's nothing indicating who was there, no
treasure at all. And again if they if there were robbers,
they would have stolen the treasure. But there's nothing, you know,
there's no decoration. Everything seems very utilitarian in there, like
it's it wasn't there for its esthetic purposes, it was
(45:39):
there to serve a function.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
And then you've got the weird things like like gat
and Brink's door that they opened a few years ago,
and it's this little, tiny narrow passage that goes through
the pyramid that has a little door in it. But
it's so small that they they had to use a
remote controlled car with a drill on it to drill
(46:03):
a hole through the door and then slide a little
camera through so they could see what was on the other.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Side, what was on the other side.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Another fucking door. They I remember they were doing a
live broadcast of it on National Geographic Channel and I
was so pumped because I had just read this book
called The Stargate conspiracy, and they were talking about the
Great Pyramid and Gatton Brinkstore. So I was like, all
(46:31):
amped a bottle, like fuck yeah, let's see what's behind it.
And they get in there and it's another fucking door
on the other side.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
I remember this, I remember this. That's crazy, dude. What
if whoever helped them build pyramids or it is built
by aliens or with the assistance of multi dimensional all
knowing beings, that there's just a door that they've been
waiting for us to open for thousands and thousands of
years that'll signal them to save humanity and they just
(47:00):
fucking all died off by now. Man.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, it sucks that we'll never know, you know, no
matter what, Like we're at the end of the day.
The only thing we're gonna know is what is in
the history books, what's being written about it by modern
academics and historians, and that's the truth, because that's as
best as we know. You know, you can have all
(47:24):
these theories, but there's really no way to know for
sure unless these fucking four thousand foot things under the
pyramid are discovered as being real. We go down there
and we're like, oh shit, and then we find the
secret passage underneath the Sphinx that has all the good
(47:46):
shit that was smuggled out of the Library of Alexander.
And then again we're like, oh shit. And then we
start having all these fucking Egyptian wizards out there and
they start raising the dead and casting lightning down and
summoning the great Old Ones, and then we're all fucked.
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