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April 17, 2025 • 45 mins
Hey folks! This week we cover the strange events that took place in Joplin Missouri during one of the worst tornados ever recorded.Thanks for listening and BE SAFE

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
What's up, everybody? Thanks for listening to the what cast. Mike,
I've got a question for you. Have you ever had
or been in a life or death situation?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Uh? Like, like where? What do you mean by a
life or death situation? Like, I've been in a situation
that I almost died, but not like if you're saying
life or death, Like, if you make one choice, you're dead,
the other choice, you're not dead.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Hmmm. Actually you pose a better question, but I suppose. Okay,
So what did you think of after you almost died?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Like?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
What state of mind? What's like the first thing you do?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
I was drunk at the time, so it really didn't
hit home until I started to sober up, and I
was like, fuck, man, I almost died and left my
kids without a fucking dad. Yeah, that was That was
the thing, Like, just because you're a drunk idiot, you
almost died.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Holy moly, you have to tell me that sometime.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, And just to alleviate any concerns, it wasn't a
drunk driving situation. I'm not that dumb. No, I was
just stupid, you know, drunken behavior.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Right right right.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
In a lot of these cases, most commonly, people will pray. Right,
Humans have a natural tendency to turn to religion in
times of tragedy. You ever noticed that how a traumatic
experience can bring people to God, or make non believers believers,
or even make someone who's turned their backs on their
religion come running back to it and times of need,

(01:53):
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
But then there's also the opposite, where someone will you know,
like blame God on their misfortune and turn their back.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's a good point, you know, that's kind of almost
seems like an old trope. Do you think people still
do that today, since there's like a higher number of
atheists now than an ever.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't know, probably. I mean, there's there's probably people
that go both ways still.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Right, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
It just seems like two nineteen twenties to like land
on your knees and look at this guy and yell, why.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Ye why, why God why.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I don't think anybody's doing that now.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
They're probably probably screaming something about like skizzy and skizzles
and having.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Riz Yeah, swizzle sticks and toilets and stuff. I don't know,
fucking kids are so dumb.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Oh my god, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I think when I go to the next comic con
I'm going to pretend to be hearing impaired, so I
just don't have to speak to anybody like not even
been buying.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
A good way to go about it, man, Yeah, you just.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Told me I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Just teach yourself sign language just so you can get
away with pretending to be deaf.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
And my wife knows siglu wage. So I'll just have
a bone mail there.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
You go.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Just just be like you you signed to me, and
I'll just and I'll just nod. Make it look legit, right.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Right, Oh god, it's gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
But we've talked about the strained things the human mind
can do during a traumatic experience. One example I like
to use is a life after death experiences. You always
said that religion plays a big part in what people
here and see during these situations, is someone Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Because I think it's all like based on their own
frame of reference, you know, So like you, I don't
want to say that what they're seeing isn't isn't a
real experience. I think it's kind of like a comfort thing,
Like it's probably like the last workings of our brain,
like connecting what's going on with our human experience. So

(04:05):
we're expecting when we die to see the tunnel of
light or to see the gates of heaven or whatever
you know. Or if you're expecting to go to hell,
you're seeing hell however you want to. But I don't
think ultimately, once the moment of death is completed and

(04:28):
your body is now dead, your soul has left, I
don't think that it's like that's going to be the experience.
I just think it's that's like your dying experience, because
because if you die and then you come back, you
weren't really dead, you know what I'm saying. Like you died, yeah,
like technically you died, but the fact that you came

(04:48):
back means you weren't dead. You're not fucking Jesus, You're
not coming back from the dead and being like, look
I was dead and now I'm alive. No, you flatlined
and they were able to bring you back.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Difference, you wouldn't consider the people who have the like, well,
I don't know, near death is not the same thing.
Maybe that's what you're talking about, but life.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
After, Yeah, that's yeah, that's what I'm talking about. The
near death experience where where you have a glimpse of
a potential after life. Okay, but it's not. You know,
you're not actually dead, like like it would be one
thing if you died and then they're like they take
you to the morgue and everything and they're in bombing you.
Then you're like, hey, wait a second, I'm still alive,

(05:29):
and they're like, oh fuck, this guy was dead and
I was alive. It's you. They were able to revive you.
They're able to get your heart started again. Like if
you were really dead and your soul has left the building,
then them starting your heart up isn't going to bring
you back. You're you. You've exited this realm of existence
and you're off to a new one.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
So there's like this maybe weird stasis to where your
life force is retrievable and that is a different state.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, I don't even think it's it that you're like,
I don't think in those experiences that the soul has
actually left. I think it's it's your brain like preparing
you for your next step in your journey. And so
that's why it's drawing on your frame of reference, whatever
your belief system or whatever you were taught or you

(06:19):
know whatever to believe that's going to be what comes
through because that's what's familiar to you. So like when
you're in the throes of dying, your brain is producing
this experience of your dying moments and what you're experiencing
when you die, but you're not actually dead yet because again,
they were able to bring you back. It's not like

(06:40):
they're the fucking Ghostbusters and they set up a ghost
trap and sucked your soul back into your body.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I always found that interesting. You're talking about the frame
of reference. If someone dies and is brought back to life,
and they start to describe a place of fire and
torment ran by hideous horn and winged creatures, it would
make more sense that this person grew up in a
Christian household rather than a hell actually being a real
place that bad people go when they die. The human

(07:10):
mind is fucking nuts.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
You'll remember what your mind wants to remember and what
it can comprehend if it can't make sense out of
the situation. The human mind is very capable, and we've
talked about this mike of implanting whatever imagery that makes
the most sense to the observer based on their upbringing,

(07:33):
life experiences and beliefs. So if you go to like
the Sentinel Islands where they haven't been contacted by people,
you know what, there's even more uncontacted tribes like that.
When that if one of those people from those tribes,
like a regular dude from that tribe dies and comes
back to life, I don't think he's going to start
talking about Jesus, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Exactly, You're not going to have someone who's never had
any experience with the Christian religion have an experience with
the Christian heaven. Like you're not going to see the
gates of Heaven. You're not going to meet Saint Peter.
Jesus isn't going to be there welcoming you. You know,

(08:14):
you don't have that frame of reference. So it's not
going to happen if you have a near death experience
and in a culture that doesn't have any connection to Christianity,
for the same reason that you or I aren't going
to have an experience with you know, some some indigenous

(08:36):
deity when we die, because we don't even know who
that deity is, so why would we have that experience
with them when we die. We don't have that frame
of reference.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Right, And in that state our mind's going to put
whatever the fuck will make sense anyway, So it will.
It'll bring up your even if you don't practice your religion,
you know, as a kid, that's that's going to be
your reference. If you think you're bad when you died,
hell's going to look like the traditional Christian hell, you know,
or whatever religion that your bottom's version of hell.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
But what if I were to tell you of an
incident where I believe religion may have masked one of
the strangest mass sightings of an unknown being ever recorded?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Is this like like the the Dancing Sun that we
talked about, where religion covered up a UFO event with
an a legend miracle.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Well, see, this is more people's belief system may may
have covered up something a little bit more strange that
was going on.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
All right, let's hear it.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
In twenty and eleven, the seventh largest tornado ever fucking
recorded by humans fell upon the Joplin area of Missouri,
a Category five tornado, a class so destructive and powerful
it also goes by the finger of God, raised entire neighborhoods,

(10:01):
and killed over one hundred and sixty people, injured over
one thousand more and caused over three billion dollars in
damage in just thirty eight minutes. Thirty eight minutes, yes, sir, damn,
that's how powerful it was. The tornado came so fast
that some people didn't even have time to seek shelter.

(10:24):
There were people literally caught outside during this storm. From
what I understand, there was a thunderstorm and a few
different areas, and two of those cells joined together and
this big tornado was born. But what makes the tragedy
take a turn for the weird is.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
That it was a Tasmanian devil, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
A twenty foot tall? After the tornado, children from all
over the affected areas reported seeing what they called butterfly
people during the tornado.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
How many people well this this this story It gets
interesting because there's only a few people who have gone
on well not gone on record.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
I'm sure if somebody digs into this more, other people
will say what they saw and give their names. But
a lot of these stories come from word of mouth
of people gathering after this event and telling their stories
of survival and all that stuff, and just sharing stories
what they witnessed. But there's a bunch of mainly children
who reported seeing this, but there are a couple of

(11:29):
people on record some One of the more well known
stories is that a mother and her four year old daughter,
and I will say when you if you guys look
this up, and I'm leaving I'm leaving stuff up for
you guys to read more on. If you liked this story,
there's plenty of other examples you can check out, but
a lot of the like genders have been switched because
it's been retold so many times, you know. But in

(11:53):
one of the more popular stories is that a mother
had in her four year old daughter found themselves stuck
in their car when the tornado hit them, and as
it got worse, the mother realized that they couldn't stay
in the car and remained safe at all, so they
needed to seek shelter, and they needed to do that
right now. So she grabbed the little girl and they

(12:13):
ran to see what type of shelter they could find
or whatever hiding place they could find, And just then
she heard the sound of her car sliding across the road,
and she turned to see that her car was now
airborne and was heading right for her and her daughter.
So it's little time to react. She grabbed her daughter
and turned away to shield her daughter with her body

(12:36):
and just basically waited for impact. But it didn't happen.
The car rolled away in a different direction at the
absolute last second, and after they got to safety, her
daughter asked her mom, weren't they beautiful? Weren't they pretty?
And her mother asked her who, and she told her
the butterfly people. And she explained that people with the

(12:56):
wings of butterflies flew in front of them and shielded
them with their wings from the car. The car had
not just simply rolled away into a different direction, but
it bounced off of their butterfly wings. And she also
said that she saw some of these butterfly people lifting
people up into the sky, so.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Other people were also saved. Then, yes, I think I
remember hearing this story.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, I was familiar to me, but I decided I
came across it recently and wanted to dig into how
serious it. God, what brought my attention to this is somebody,
somebody had posted something about a documentary about this tornado
being made and them not mentioning this at all.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, that's that's pretty interesting. Yeah, so do they When
she was describing them, was she saying they looked like
regular people. They just had butterfly wings.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
There's a lot of different descriptions and that's where this
the belief stuff comes in, which we'll get into. But
the most common thing is that they're normal, beautiful people,
some in robes, but they have butterflies wings, so.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Like it like your typical like medieval depictions of an angel,
but with butterfly wings instead of feathery bird wings. Yes,
or maybe like giant fairies.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
It's almost like they're one and the same.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Hm. We're gonna like where this goes. They even have
like a memorial mural in Choplin and on it has
basically like little basic testimonial testimonials or other sightings of
these butterfly people, which if they have that up, I
was surprised that documentary didn't mention it. One of them

(14:41):
is a godfather was doing some farm work outside with
two of his grandchildren and they were quickly overtaken by
the winds of the tornado, so fast, in fact, that
the only thing that they could do was get on
their hands and knees and grab the fucking grass and
hope that they didn't fly away. And the winds left
as soon as they came, and when the grandfather checked

(15:03):
on the two kids, they were bewildered. The winds were
so strong. It's noted that the soles of some of
their shoes were ripped off, and the kids didn't give
a shit about that. They were not concerned with the tornado.
They had said that there were butterfly men that landed
on them when they were huddled and covered them with

(15:25):
their wings and made them feel protected.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
So it wasn't just that they stood in front of
them like, they actually made them feel the protection.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yes, and that's actually mentioned a couple times. This is
the second group of kids. I'm gonna I had to
leave some fucking out because there's so many of these
little stories, little tales of things happening with these butterfly people.
Another one tells of a four year old found trapped
in a car all alone and with no family in side,

(16:00):
and they noted that every window in this car was smashed,
every single one, and the inside of the car was
littered with debris from outside.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
And they couldn't.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Believe it because this little baby had no not one scratch,
not one injury on her at all, and it didn't
make sense because the car was destroyed. When asked why
she didn't get hurt, how she didn't get hurt, she
said that a butterfly man came in and again wrapped
his wings around her and made her feel safe.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
So it's almost like they've got some sort of like
comforting aura about them. Yeah, because I mean, think about it.
Think about it this way. If you were in a
really tense situation and some fucking crazy creature came and
wrapped itself around you, you'd freak the fuck out. You know,
You're not gonna be like, oh, look at this, Look

(16:54):
at this abomination just wrapping its wings around me. How pretty?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I feel so good.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
No, you'd be like, oh, fuck, I just avoided death
by car crushing and now I got some alien monster
wrapping its arms around me.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
You're you're absolutely right. And they described them as being beautiful,
and they have they have that presence and uh, and
we can get into that now a little bit. There's
when you look this up, you'll you'll find another name
for the story, and it's called the Joplin Angels. There's
one of the stories I'll cut into the ones I

(17:31):
was telling now because this is somebody who they got
the names the names of this there's other people who
witnessed this incident, but not not the butterfly people, but
dealt with these people.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Mason Lillard and Lark Gribsby went to home depot with
their grandparents, and the grandmother and the kids stayed in
the car while the grandpa went inside. And they were
suddenly hit by this tornado. And the tornado was so
strong that the home depot completely collapsed. The roof caved in,

(18:06):
and the walls gave out, and luckily the grandpa was
able to make it out. He worked his way out
of there, and he found that the car that the
family was in had been thrown something like three hundred
meters something ridiculous. And Mason, she was injured gravely. She

(18:27):
had been impaled by a piece of metal. So they
took them to the hospital and when they got there,
Large had a pretty bad head injury. So they worked
on him and they stabilized him. But from what I understand,
Mason was in such bad shape that she was immediately
brought to the morgue.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh shit.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, And there was a nurse that had come in
on a whim she was off, but she heard about
the tornado and figured they need her help, and just
by chance, her first stop was to the morgue and
she saw that there was such a young person on
the table there. She put her hand on her arm,
and that's when Mason kind of jerked up and screamed
in pain. So they got her into an operating room

(19:10):
and cleaned her up and she was able to recover.
Oh damn, yeah, And when they asked her what had happened,
she said that it's been reported that it was inside
the car or outside the car, but there's a quote
from her saying that she thought it was larg doing
this to her, but there was one report, so I
heard it was definitely outside the car after she had
received this injury. But there was all of a sudden,

(19:33):
a white two people, one with brown hair, one with
blonde hair, and they were in robes and they had
butterfly wings, and they put their hand on her shoulder
and told her that she was going to be okay,
and then she passed out. And she calls them her angels,
that's what she calls them. But what we'll get into

(19:54):
what we think about that. Yet another one of these
stories is two young girl who was carried away by
the tornado. The winds of the tornado, she actually flew
up into the sky and she suddenly stopped from flying
into the sky and was brought back to the ground.
When she was grabbed, they told her, you know what happened,

(20:15):
and she says, a butterfly man came, wrapped me with
his wings and flew me back down to the ground
and told me everything would be okay.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
When like she's saying, it actually spoke to her.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yes, sir, and she is not the only one, Oh.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Okay, So it's not like a mental connection thing, like
it's actually speaking. Interesting.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
One little girl said her and her dad were trapped
in their car as the tornado passed almost directly ahead
of them, and she said that suddenly, quote, two little
fairies appeared and stayed with him while the tornado passed overhead.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
So like they like almost like little little uh, little cheerleaders, like, hey,
you'll be okay, hang in there, champ.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
And when you get into the details of this, that's
how this all of these each one of these entities
present that and some say.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
That I wonder what the why why they came, Like
it's almost like like the tornado brought them.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
It almost seems like they have a specific purpose related
to this tornado. They like they're made for this tornado.
It's very weird, huh.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Or I wonder like if if this tornado, it it
was so historically big, Like what if it was like
a connection point between two different planes of reality and
where that opened, just this energy rushed out, creating this
massive tornado, and then the beings from the other side
are like, oh shit, we got to save as many

(21:54):
people as possible. Right, it just fucked up big time.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
It could be I mean, F five tornado. Know, I
mean it's it's from what I understand. I measure these
things by like destruction almost, you know, and this is
literally they call them. If you guys are old enough
to watch that movie Twister, this is that finger of
God tornado that just destroys every there's everything that's passed.
Literally whole neighborhoods were erased. If you look this up,

(22:19):
you can find an awful lot of heartbreaking news interviews
with people who survived, and it's just, you know, there's
it's not that their house has destroyed everything, it's gone.
There's nothing to salvage, it's disappeared, there's a foundation on
the floor now.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
It's so terrifying, man like we I think I've talked
on the show about how you know, and we've talked
about weather patterns changing and how around here. Like last year,
for instance, we had seven tornadoes touched down in the
span of two weeks, and typically we don't have tornadoes

(22:55):
at all, so it was pretty alarming to have that
many tornadoes come through here. And luckily they weren't big
time tornadoes where you know, they're ripping up houses and
killing people left and right. I think there was only
one or two people that died. And I don't mean

(23:16):
to say only because it's you know, I know, I
know it's somebody dying. But considering the fact that we
had so many touching down, and really all that happened
was a lot of people lost power and some buildings
got damaged. There wasn't wholesale destruction and people's lives being

(23:38):
upended and everything. It was just more a matter of
inconvenience where you couldn't drive down certain streets because trees
fell down or you were without like I think I
was without power for a day. I don't even know
if I don't think it was even a full day,
but be living in an area where it doesn't happen,
it was fucking terrifying. So I can't even imagine if

(24:01):
something like that were to sweep through where it's just
fucking lifting up cars and tossing them around and tearing
down buildings like that's that is so fucking scary.

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Speaker 1 (29:50):
All right, back to butterfly people. A sheriff found a
six year old boy in a field six miles from
his home, and when he was asked how he got there,
he said an angel brought him there, brought him there
to keep him safe. A mother took her seven children
and hid in their closet when the tornado hit their house.

(30:11):
And when they were getting into the closet, the mother
turned with the children and looked up because they heard
a terrible noise and they saw the roof rip right off.
And after everything had calmed down, they emerged from the
closet and found that nothing of their house existed anymore
except the closet they were in, And the children, all seven,

(30:31):
said that they saw a beautiful woman in a robe
with butterfly wings hold the roof together as they got
into the closet.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
So everyone here is experiencing the same sort of beings
and they're all Is there any connection between any of
these witnesses or are they all completely independent of one another?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
These are supposedly all different people from around the area,
that all different victims of this tornado.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
And it's not just one guy calling in Bill like, yes,
I was saved by angels, and then another guy calls it,
yeah I had angels saved me, and another guy there
were angels save my laugh. I swear to God.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well, I don't know like that.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
It wasn't a situation like that.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
I just I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
You know, if I think it comes from word of
mouth from the people that living there going through it,
just like the people in Point Pleasant did with moth Man,
and you know, it just got around for the people
there to have a memorial with testimonies of the sightings
of these things speaks volumes to me. I think they
take it serious. The town or ordinates itself with butterflies.

(31:44):
Everything's butterflies. I found an interview with a young girl
who went through the tornado and was actually impaled through
her leg by a big piece of debris, and it
really messed her up. It took a long time for
her to get better, but when she did, she cannot
go outside without being swarmed by butterflies, like they just

(32:05):
they captured on the film while.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
They're wow, wow, yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
They show her social media and every day is a
different butterfly that lands on her.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
So there is the there's weird. There's weird things here
that are going on that you can see. You know
that you can There's a few YouTube videos you can watch.
There's plenty of writing on it. Like I said, it
details very wildly, but uh, it's just such a strange thing.
All the same thing, the little Fairies one is weird
and it gets it gets weirder. A little boy named

(32:34):
Eli was found under the rubble of his house, which
had completely caved in and collapsed on the poor little guy.
And when he was discovered by rescue workers, he was
wrapped up like a burrito, they say, in a thick, thick,
green carpet. The funny thing about this is that the
family had no fucking idea where this carpet came from.
It did not belong to them. They asked their neighbors.

(32:56):
They had no idea where this carpet came from. The
boy said that butterfly people came wrapped him in the
carpet like that, like a burrito to keep him safe.
Pastor warmouth. He and a few people were taking refuse
in the church when all four walls of the church collapsed,
trapping everyone in. There After a few minutes, six very

(33:20):
large quote men came in and lifted the walls and
let the people in the church and the pastor escape.
And when they got escaped, the six large men said
they had other people to help and left.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Did these large men have butterfly wings or were they
just like ridiculously large.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
There was no mention of that.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
They were ridiculously just large men lifting the walls mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
And when the rescuers got there, they were confused because
there's no way that even six large men would be
able to do that. They had to be way big, big,
big men. And everybody there corroborated the same story. Six
very very very large men came in pushed the walls

(34:06):
back to where they should be. And it's another thing
that's happening here. If you're noticing, they're they're able to
do things that seem to be impossible appliable in theory.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, I mean, if walls caved in and then these
guys just show up and they're like, you know what,
don't worry about it, We'll put it right back to
the way it was. Yeah, And it's weird though, right,
that's not how architecture works.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
You know, it has this weird feel, like you said,
like they're made for it, Like these walls need to
be up, So I'm gonna do something that symbolizes these
walls being up. I can do something that's impossible to
hold up the walls because that specifically needs to.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Happen right now.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
The other one with the people in the closet, the
roof blowing off and it appearing holding two sides of
the roof so that they can get into there. It's
doing something that doesn't make physical or structural sense. You
can't just grab two sides of a roof to stop
it from flying off. But somehow these weird ass were
able to do this.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, I wonder if it's like a weird time thing,
like where they like reverse the time somehow, like they
touched the object and the object is like they reverse
the time around the object, so that even though all
the people are still in their present, the architecture reverts
back to the way it was just before the collapse.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Maybe one of the last ones that I have written
down here is there's reportedly a nurse that worked out
a hospital and she claimed that she saw the butterfly
people bring into the hospital she saw butterfly people standing
next to people who were passing away. Anytime that they

(35:44):
were asked anything, they just said that they needed to
go help more people. Other people reported seeing butterfly people helping,
rescuing people, digging through rubble, finding people and taking them
up to the sky.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Were the people that taken up to the sky scene again,
was anyone reported missing afterwards?

Speaker 3 (36:04):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I don't know, and from what I understand, it was
just like a person nobody got to see a face somebody,
you know, who knows if it was their physical body.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
It's little I'll have I have to stress there's a
lot of these uh are coming from stories from people,
you know. I don't know who's done all the interviewing
for this. This case is old now, so I don't
know if somebody went in there or like a Nick
Redfern went in there to go talk to these people
to get their stories. But it's to me, it's the
most organic way for the story to be born, you know.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, it's it's crazy mane Like I've I've heard of
of like people having angelic encounters, like like when an
accident happens, or but it's usually like centered around one
or two people that are together, but this is like this,
the entire area is being saved by these beings in

(37:02):
the wake of a historic tornado.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Right, and again, only children mostly are seeing this. And
even the case of some of these kids, did the parents,
like the grandpa on the farm that they were doing
farm work outside, the kids told him, you didn't fucking
see this thing? And he said, no, there was nothing here.
And they're like, you didn't see the big old man
with butterfly wings put his arms around us and have

(37:26):
his wings cocoon us and you know around you know.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
From the sword.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Did What did the adults experience in that case?

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Nothing?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
They just sat there like they couldn't see what was happening. Uh,
it was still windy as fuck. They just didn't get hurt.
So this made me think of something else, another winged
fellow that is supposedly known for possibly helping people. Do
you know who that is?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Mine?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Is it the moth Man?

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yes, sir, there's a there's a lot of talk about
mothman being on that bridge to be scary to keep
people off the Silver Bridge. So that didn't happen. There's
even another case Mike I don't know if we've covered this,
the Freeburg screecher. Have you heard of that?

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I don't think so, it doesn't sound familiar.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I believe it was in the fifties. Again, I want
to do a quick in the weird on this, so
I'll just go over it briefly. But it was a
mine and I think it was a fifties or it
could be seventy five. I'm sorry, I'm bad with numbers.
I have to remember them in a weird way. But
there was a big mind that people worked at went
to every day, and as the miners reached the site,

(38:35):
there was an eight foot tall dark figure standing in
front of the entrance to the cave, and one of
the cavers began to approach the being to tell it
to get the fuck out of there so they can
go to work. And he noticed what he thought that
were big boots on were actually draping wings, and he's
a got closer. It opened these giant wings and let

(38:57):
out a horrible screech that sounded get this like train
stopping mixed with the sounds of multiple men screaming. So
they got the fuck out of there, and they went
back a few times and it was still standing in
front of the mine, not allowing them to gain entry,
and that would went on for so long that they

(39:17):
decided to do outside work of the mine and clean
shit up, And sometime during the day the entire mind
collapsed and if anybody was in there, they would have
been beyond any type of help and all the miners
would have died. And as they reached the mind to
check out the damage, there was no more Screecher.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Around after that.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
So we have these figures that seem to help Mothman.
This screecher, the blackbird of Chernobyl we can even talk about.
But these are awful looking things. These are scary creatures.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Mothman.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
You guys might like the cartoons and all the fucking plushies,
but there's not a person that describes his Mothman as
having a fucking head. His eyeballs are in his chin. Yes,
he's you know, a BlimE me blemier.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Weird.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, But strangely enough, the fucking statue endpoint pleasant gives
them butterfly wings and makes them have a head like
a nihilist.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
It sure does. It sure does give him butterfly wings.
But again, these things are ugly looking things that seem
to be doing something that's positive. It's do you think
these are the anti mothman or or the mothman and
black British or noble and this creature just rogue entities
that come from a dark side or dark place that
are doing good. It almost seems like like you said

(40:36):
these these the whole thing leads me to a question
I have for you. And that's why I'm saying religion
might be masking this whole, this whole case here. This
is at Missouri. It's a very religious place, very religious place.
It's a place that practice is the same religion. There
are people who saw these things that they reported that
were not of Christian domination and they still saw them. Uh.

(40:58):
There's people that didn't practice religion and they witnessed these
things what they're describing here, And I love their feelings.
I'm glad these people were Okay, I'm glad they were saved.
But if we have to look at this objectively, here,
these are clearly not angels. I don't care if they
have a robe, I don't care if they're beautiful and

(41:19):
have long hair. I don't remember any Bible describing any
angels as having butterfly wings, And that's the one fucking
consistent thing through all of these stories.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I wonder if it's like, rather than being butterfly wings,
if it was more like colors that were kind of
emanating from them. And since their little kids like they
were able to associate it with butterflies, because you know,
butterflies have colorful wings.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
And almost made think about the little mince pie Martians,
how they had those oval shaped wings that had different
spots of light and color.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, I thought of that as well, right I.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Just after reading all that, I was like, hold on
a minute, you know, maybe we shouldn't be calling these
the angels of Joplin. They have butterfly wings. One little
girl reported tiny fairies. The pastor reported giant men, you know,
And that's the only description I got out of them.
But if they had butterfly wings, I'm sure they would
have included that. So it seems like there's a few
different things going on there. But since the over religious area,

(42:20):
and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, I'm
just saying that's a very religious place, they're automatically tying
it to angels, and I think they're doing themselves a disservice.
They might have like a white magic mothman flying around there.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, I think again, Like we were talking earlier, it's
all about the context that you give it. Like you
could if you were to have, like say, some lights
in the sky along with this event, it would be
fucking aliens, no doubt in my mind. People be like
we were saved by aliens. But then if you were to

(42:53):
maybe change the location to Scotland or England and go
back in time to three hundred years, it would be fairies,
no doubt in anyone's mind. These are fucking fairies that
saved us.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
All.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
It's all based on where it comes from. If it
was in the Middle East five hundred years ago, it
would be the gin that came out.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, it's all.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
It's all the same shit, dude, It's I've been saying
it all along. It's might as well have been fucking Bigfoot.

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