June 20, 2025 • 53 mins
Ghost stories seem to be a common pastime among kids at sleep-overs and camp-outs. Telling spooky stories along with trying to scare each other with stupid dares seem to be a staple among kids from all generations. Hell, adults have even been known to engage in such shenanigans. Today we are going to discuss the classic “game” Bloody Mary and discuss the traditions and background of the game, then talk about how it tends to vary by locale and generation. We also look at a more modern game that pops up pretty frequently in creepy pasta spheres online, the Midnight Game, and the entity known as the Midnight Man. This one was a live show, so we will make references to things that popped up in chat throughout the episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
President.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That's how the show starts. Oh, I'm coming in, both chicks.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I should have saved that I just deleted. That could
have used it.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
No, uh yuck.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
All right, what's up everybody? Thank you for no no,
we're going. Thank you for.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Looking to the We're off and running boy.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
All right, thank you for listening to the what cast.
We're having a great start.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
To the show. We're not drunk either. This is fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Mike, what are we going to talk about that? I'm
excited for this one because I have a kind of
a probably not unique point of view on it, but
a certain level of experience on this subject.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Mainly my plan was to talk about Bloody Mary, but
I also I just recently found out about this other
game called the Midnight Game, which is likely a creepy pasta,
but I wanted to talk about it because it's one
of those things that I don't know. There's this whole
internet thing of kids playing these like creepy games that
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are supposed to put you in touch with demons or
ghosts or shadow people or whatever, and this is one
of them. If there's any interest, maybe down the line,
we'll do an episode on all these wacky games. But
I figured bloody Mary is a good starting point. That's
something most people our age are familiar with, if not
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younger and older.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, when I sat down a I wanted to see
if I can find something else to talk about other
than Bloody Mary. And I found like some things that,
I mean, there's not much information on. It's a sentence
and it's things like bloody Mary. But Bloody Mary sure
is like the most famous what would you call it,
like a entity that you can summon, a summoning mean, I.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Guess it's like a ritual game or something, because it
I don't know, it's so bloody Mary itself like it's spawned.
It's not as old as a lot of people would think.
The original story, or the original game that it was
based around, was this ritual where young women would walk
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up a flight of stairs holding a candle and looking
into a mirror in a dark house, and as they
looked into the mirror, they were supposed to be able
to catch the face of of whoever they were going
to marry when they grew up. But there was a
chance that they would see the Grim Reaper or a
skeleton or something along those lines, and if they did,
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it meant that they would die before they got married,
and over time.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I was gonna say it seems like it started off
all sweet, like girls trying to see their future husbands.
Yeah nope, you had to throw the grim reaper in there.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah. Well, and it was it was a game. But
it's kind of like it's it's actually it's a form
of divination that is called catop tramancy, and it's basically
divination done using a mirror. So it would be like
the equivalent of kids today like fucking around with tarot
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cards or Ouiji board or something. You know, it just
turned into a game rather than than something that was
really taking seriously. But as we know, those those things
are to open doorways. So even just fucking around and
playing around, if the intent is there, then you can
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get some responses.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Right, And you would know about that more than I would,
especially when it comes to the mirror stuff. But what
do you think about the whole mysticism behind mirrors. I
myself do not like mirrors. If it was if it
was possible, I wouldn't have one for some reason. My
mother's always had tons and tons of mirrors. But you
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hear about black mirrors and people using mirrors and rituals.
Is that something that's real? Is that something or is
that just is that it's in itself?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Urban? Yeah, that's no, that's it's there's different types of
divination and using a black mirror, which is essentially you're
putting some sort of black material behind like uh uh,
just a piece of glass, or you could put it
like in a picture frame and do the black mirror
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that way, but it's supposed to create a dark reflective surface.
That's the whole point of it. But I mean, I
think a lot of it is what you make of it.
Like people are able to do like use fire and
flames as a means of divination, and by looking into
the flames, they're given visions, you know, whether it be
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the flames make certain shapes or go in certain ways
or puts them into a trance. But mirrors are the
same way. It's like you look into the mirror and
think of like the magic eye thing, and I know
that's a computer generated image, but it's it's designed for
you to use the pattern and just kind of look
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through it to see a shape. So what you're doing
is looking into the mirror, but you're not looking at
your own reflection. You're kind of looking past the reflection
and letting the reflective surface kind of show you some
sort of vision or face or entity or what have you.
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But it's like a crystal ball. It's just a different
way of doing it. But if you're doing it as
a means of communication with some other entity or something
on the other side, then there's there are certain types
of invocation and evocation that you can do in front
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of a mirror to summon certain beings. So the idea
of like bloody Mary or a candy man, it's based
in kind of some occult practices. But it's not like
you're not going to go into a bathroom and participate
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in one of these summoning rituals or connection rituals and
make contact with another entity and then have it appear
behind you in disembolve you. It's that's not really how
it works. But you could be opening a doorway if
you're not taking the right precautions and protecting yourself, and
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it could lead to an infestation or a haunting or
something along those lines, or Bigfoot in your bathroom, because
as we know, bigfoot is not bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Which you will all soon learn Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Part part two coming soon.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Do you have any personal beefs or apprehensions about mirrors yourself,
knowing stuff like that can be No.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Not really. The only time I've ever had issues with
a mirror is a time that I was kind of
going through some shit and I took mushrooms and then
I looked in the mirror and I and after making
eye contact with myself. Like a lot of people will say, oh,
I saw my flesh melting off or I turned into
a skeleton or a rainbow or whatever, it was nothing
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like that. I made eye contact with myself in the mirror,
and I felt like I was looking at an evil
version of myself, like it was me. There was nothing like.
It's not like it was giving me a sinister grinner
or like looking scary or anything. It just it looked
at me, and I looked at my reflection. So I'm
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looking at myself, and just the look in my eyes
gave me the impression that it was evil. So I'm like, well, fuck,
the evil me is in there. But I kind of
got lost in it and I just stood there for
like I thought it was only a few minutes, and
but other people said it was like forty five minutes
all parties involved were tripping, so I have no actual
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way of knowing how long I was in there, but
I kind of got lost in my reflection for a
while and then I pulled myself away, And once I
pulled myself away, I had this really weird trip like
it It wasn't a bad trip, it was it was
like almost I felt like after that I turned sober
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and like I was. I was just like, like, I
didn't feel like I was tripping anymore, but I felt
like a huge sense of euphoria that I didn't feel previously.
But other than that, no, I don't really give a
shit about mirrors. The only time I ever look in
the mirrors is when I'm combing my hair or flossing,
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and that's that's really about it. So mirrors really don't
matter much to me. I guess. I'm like, they don't
freak me out at all. When I was younger, they
kind of did, but I think it was just because
I watched a lot of horror movies as a kid
and it just kind of resonated with me.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, I bet, But I do.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Remember the Bloody Mary's story telling it to my brother
growing up and we were kids. I was I would
guess maybe ten, so he probably seven or eight, depending
on what time of the year, but he was young
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either way. And I I told him about Bloody Mary,
and I dared him to go do it, and I
and I ended up freaking him out, and he went
to my mom and my Mom's like, it's not real.
And then I got in trouble for scaring my little brother.
And I always used to do that shit. I don't
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know why, I just uh, because we grew up so
close together, we were just over two years apart. I
remember one time, you know, the the hidden track on
Undertow about the carrots and the Life feeds On Life,
yeah thing. So I very quietly turned it on in
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our room when when I was in middle school, so
he would have been in like fifth grade probably, and
I just really quietly turned it on, so it was faint,
but it was loud enough that you can hear it.
And I got right to the life feeds on Life part,
where it's got that that weird percussion beat going and
it just keeps repeating Life feeds on, Life feeds on
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This is necessary, that whole thing, and he got so
freaked out because I played it up like I had
no idea what it was and I was acting like
I was freaking So he again, he runs to my
parents and then they come in. I turned the CD
player off, and I'm like, I don't know it's I
don't know what a dick? What a dick?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, we had too much, like real spooky shit going
on to fuck with each other in that way.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, I mean little did I know? We did as well.
I just wasn't really dealing with it at the time,
I guess. I mean that actually would have been after
I saw that ghost though, or the I don't want
to call it a ghost, the entity.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But yeah, to answer your question, it is based on
actual occult practices. So that's a that's a that's a
real thing, well real in the sense that it's a practice,
not not necessarily real as in, although it could be.
I guess it's all based around your your own personal
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belief system.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Now, if you went to somebody's house for the first
time and they just had a clear overabundance of mirrors,
would that give you a pause. No, you wouldn't think
that they're I would.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Think that they were probably pretty vain unless they had
them set up in like a ritualistic way. I would
think they were either really vain or got down with
the really freaky sex, or maybe both.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Maybe they come in both channels. I don't know. Yeah, hey,
you got to be here for the live recording to
get that. Folks, It's not what's the thing. I'm not
that vulgar. You should know that.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
But it it might be. It might be what you think. Guys,
he deleted it, so you'll never know.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
It didn't happen. Yeah, that's how you do that.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Though it did. So anyway, what do you know about
Bloody Mary? Tell me so? I'm also curious about this
about different different regional takes on Bloody Mary, because it
everyone is kind of different. So what was what was
your experience with Bloody Mary?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Bloody Mary was an entity that you can summon by
saying her name three times in the mirror in a
bathroom in the dark with only candlelight. Nobody ever knew
what happened when she showed up because everybody was too
scared to do it. But she was supposedly a girl
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who either one killed herself over a broken heart or
was killed tragically. And I guess if you would invoke her,
she'll come back and seek her revenge. At the age,
like I said before, we were having real spooky shit
go on. So when we were young kids and we
heard about or learned about Bloody Mary, we just were
not doing that at all. We're not fucking with anything
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like that. We eventually did do the whole Bloody Mary thing,
but even then, probably from having more real experiences is
I was like, so I was able to deduce, like,
if she kills you, how is the story out? You know,
like it's just it's all stupid. This is not gonna happen.
So we did it and nothing happened. I was like,
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this is just this is dumb shit. But we did
that when we were older. But when we were young,
we weren't gonna fuck with that shit. There was a
couple other people that all of a sudden, you can
say their name three times in the mirror and they
would do the same thing, and they had a backstory,
and I don't even remember what they were to be
honest with you, Yeah, I remember like talking to people
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when the Candy Man movies and them actually trying it.
I'm like, it's from a fucking movie.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, I know they're not going to actually put that
in there. Come on, guys.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, but it's just and you know, and they would
try it and be like yeah, it didn't worry.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I was like, no, shit, were you What was the end?
What was the end goal there? Like we we summon
them and then we get murdered.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, like death comes upon us. All, good job.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
We I'm pretty sure I talked about it in a
in a show some years ago. But we used to
have a local one called Lonely Bowl that if you
went to this site, it was a specific site in
our city. If you went there and you went into
this wooden gazebo, looked out the window and said Lonely Bowl,
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three times, he would appear. And so we would always
do it. Nothing, although one time there was a guy
who walked by who was dressed in He was dressed
in like all dark tan or like a brown colored
clothing that from a distance could potentially be like natural
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leather maybe. So I'm like, oh my god, it's it's
actually lowly bull and he's covered and uh no it
was I don't know who it was, dude, but as
a kid, I was like, I was like, you finally
havepen but no, it didn't. But we our version of
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Bloody Mary was basically the same. She would appear in
your mirror and she would be all, you know, a
woman all covered in blood, and she would try to
to kill you. I think was the thing. But there's
there's a lot of variations on it, and I was
I was kind of surprised, Like there's some that say
you have to say it five times, and I think
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that's probably post candy Man, because candy Man has to
be five times, so it's probably you know, followed suit
from there. Sometimes you need a candle, sometimes you don't
need a candle. Sometimes you have to say it fucking
fifty times. That's that's a lot of dedication to some
and Bloody Mary.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Right, I remember hearing you have to turn three times.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, yeah, and that's that's another one. You have to
you have to do the clockwise three times. And then
even how she appears and is different by locality, A
lot of people just it's her name is Bloody Mary.
So she appears as a bloody woman, typically in like
a dress or a nightgown, depending on the storyteller, but
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there's others where she appears as a corpse of a
woman like a zombie. I guess you'd say somewhere she's
a woman. There's somewhere she's a witch for some reason.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't know. Somewhere she's like this evil, demonic spirit.
And then there's somewhere she's actually friendly. So it's a
lot of different variations. And then what happens is also
different depending on the area. There's some areas where like
like Matteo and I, she would murder you. Then there's
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other ones where she would drink your blood and that's
why she was Bloody Mary, because she was a vampire ghost.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh see, I never drew that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Some Where she would curse you, so you'd go about
the rest of your life with a curse for summoning her.
Some she just shows up in screams like basically boo.
You know. But it's it's weird, how I guess it
shouldn't I guess I shouldn't say it's weird, but it's
it's interesting that there's so many variations on this one thing.
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But everybody knows, like you say bloody Mary and like,
oh yeah, you stand in front of a mirror and
somemon Bloody Mary. Everybody knows the basics of it. It's
just what happens and how she appears and everything and
how many times, you know, the ritual itself is slightly different, right,
But then even the origin, like you said, it was
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either someone who had died tragically or someone who committed suicide.
There's others that she was. She was Bloody Mary, the
first Queen of England, daughter of Henry the eighth. A lot, yeah,
because she was known historically as Bloody Mary because she
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killed or she had three hundred protesters burned at the
stake during her reign, so she earned the nickname Bloody Mary.
There's another story that she was a woman who killed
slaves that were escaped from the South through the underground railroad,
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that she would kind of lure them into the underground
railroad system but it wasn't really the underground railroad, and
that you would murder them and now she's Bloody Mary,
and that version she goes by the name Mary Worth.
Then there's another version that she was a woman who
was burned at the stake during the witch trials, even
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though the American witch trials didn't have people burnt at
the stake. But in this story, she was burned at
the stake and now she's back to seek her revenge
through mirror magic.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Well it's a really cheesy way to get revenge that happened. Yeah,
they have to know your name, hold your candle, say
your name three times while they're turning yeah in a
dark damn.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah yeah, doing a little jig and ringing a bell
and then fighting once while pointing your butt to the left.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, she appears, she's like, you've got bad luck.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I mean, she's like, oh, you got it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You had to work for this.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Speaking speaking of asses, though, there's a Japanese variant on
Bloody Mary called Hanako San, and it's a legend centered
around this young girl who haunts bathrooms, typically in a school,
and she was killed in an air raid during World
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War two, and apparently the story goes that she was
apparently playing hide and seek during the air raid, she
just hiding in the bathroom and died in the bathroom
with just like Bloody Mary. There's other variants on it.
That seems to be the main one, but there's another
variant that she was bullied at school and ended up
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going into the bathroom and taking her own life as
a result of the bullying. There's another one that she
was killed by her parent. There's another one she's killed
potentially by a teacher, and another one where a stranger
pulled her into the bathroom and killed her. But the
story goes that this girl died tragically, however, and now
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haunts school bathrooms, and she is typically typically described the
same way. She's got a bobbed haircut and is wearing
either a red skirt or a red dress. And the
ritual itself is that you have to go into the
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girl's bathroom, which if a school has multiple floors, you'd
have to go to the third floor of the school. Typically,
once you get to the bathroom on the third floor,
you walk down to the third stall, and then you
knock three times on that door, and you ask if
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hanako San is present, and if she's there, then she'll
reply back letting you know that she's there, you know, basically, yeah, present,
And then at that point, whoever summons her will witness
the appearance of either a bloody or a spectral hand,
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or Hanakosan herself may appear and pull the person that
summoned her into the toilet, which leads to hell, Hell,
the hell toilet, Yeah, the hell toilet or the craziest
punishment of all. And you're gonna love this one. The
person that summoned her will get eaten by a three
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headed lizard. Yes, for no reason at all, just because
you're invading her privacy.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, that's that's what should happen. I need that to
be happening in the world. And if you bother her,
I think that's a good excuse.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah. So that it's uh, just kind of a I guess,
a different take on the same sort of story.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, and it's interesting because I guess, like I did
a little reading on that, and that started back in
the fifties. So, I mean, it's another one of these
long standing ones Miss Stephanie's talking about. There's games made
about this person and this this legend. It's neat. I
wish there was a bloody marry game. If there was one,
I would probably suck ass. Huh.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I'm no, I'm sure there's a bloody marry game. There's
gotta be one.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah. See now in Miss Stephanie saying there's a whole
anime of it, that's now I want to watch it.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Well, there we go, There we go. We got an
anime of it that doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
But that's I'm and I'm I'm sure there's there's all
around the world. There's probably similar stories like this. But
I I just I just remember as a kid hearing
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about the story and just I knew that it wasn't real,
but I kind of wanted it to be. And I
don't know, I've always been weird like that, where like
I just I like to be scared and I want
something to like really scare me. And I never thought
that would work. And I tried it multiple times at
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multiple houses. And I've yet to see a bloody Mary.
So maybe she just doesn't like me. She's not into me.
I'm not her type. Yeah, yeah, Mary, Baby, if you're listening,
just show just show me a little bit of love.
Just give me a chance, Mary, Just give me a chance.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Now, knowing about real summoning stuff, Tulpa Mancy all that
type of stuff, knowing about real rituals that are require
the use of mirrors and things like that, do you
see any correlation to the real stuff with doing these
slight ritualistic bloody Mary things like I mean, with the
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Ouiji board. There's no there's no gray area. It's something
that was using sances back in the day. That's what
its purpose was, and now you can buy it in
the board game section. Is there anything that could be
actually dangerous with doing that comparing it to actual factual
rituals and mirror magic.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well, the way that I say it is anything can
be dangerous if you're not careful, and if you're just
like fucking around and trying to do some really heavy
spell shit, then without doing the proper work that goes
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into it ahead of time and taking the proper precautions
to protect yourself, then you may be opening yourself up
to something. It's not going to be something like candy
Man where you're gonna get killed, but the potential is
there for like I said earlier, an infestation or hunting
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just from fucking around. And it's like that with with
Wigi boards too, though. If you're not if you're not
going to be responsible with a Wigi board and you're
going to seriously try to do something with it but
not give it the property respect it deserves, you could
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open a gate that you don't know how to close.
What I always the way that I feel about the
occult and and especially any sort of summoning rituals or
spells is do more work than is needed before you
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do any of that. Don't don't get into it thinking, oh,
I'm going to talk to a demon. A lot of
these entities, especially the more powerful ones, aren't there to
have their time wasted. So if you're just fucking around
and you're not offering anything, they're going to take something,
and whether be your energy or you know, there's a
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lot of things that could happen if you're not respectful
and careful while doing these these sorts of practices, which
is also not to say that it's something that you
necessarily need to avoid. If it's something that interests you,
then by all means, get into it. Just make sure
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you're you're well read on the subject, you know what
you're getting into, and you're able to perform every step
of the ritual or spell. Look at look at ash
and evil debt. He fucked up the one word yea,
and as a result, things want to shit. Don't don't
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fuck up the one word. Take the time, learn what
you need to learn and know how to protect yourself.
If it's if it interests you people have been claiming
to connect with entities for centuries and whatever it is.
I mean, I get a lot of shit for this,
but I was raised Catholic, so so that's kind of
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my frame of reference. But having learned about different facets
of occult later in life, after I kind of got
out of Catholicism, I started to realize how much the
Catholic mass and practices are very close to occult practices.
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And like when you're when you're praying and you're you're
sending your prayers to specific saints or specific angels, it's
it's no different from somebody else working with a demon
or an angel or some sort of spirit guide or entity,
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and it's it's all very and the mass itself is
it's it's a group ritual, is what it is, a
ceremonial group ritual, and everybody participates in it. And the
secret sauce there is is the belief, you know, and
that's that's the same with with any occult practices. It's
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your intent and the faith that you have behind it,
your your belief, and that's no different from from the
power of prayer. That's why that's why people always say
that prayers is so effective because it's based heavily on
your faith, and if your faith is enough that it
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matches with your intent, you're able to somewhat shape reality
as a result of that. And that's kind of what
a lot of occult systems are is just shaping reality
to your will in one way, shape, or form, and
whether you put that in the hands of a higher
power like God or the Earth Mother or the universe
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or fucking Cthulhu, whatever the case may be, or even
if you look like like with some of the Satanists
belief systems, where you look at yourself as a god
and and you are the one putting that into existence,
you're still putting faith in something and and that is
giving you the power to enact your will upon the universe.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah. It's almost like it's a form of currency, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, kind of your energy is a currency.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah. I was watching some video not too long ago
about it was I started on some videos about talking
about the demons that Solomon summon to build his temple,
and then the video the next video played by itself
and it was just a longer list of demons and
what their names are and how to some of them
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and they were talking about getting them out of some
creepy books that you got, Mike, like these were from
Grimoire's and some real books, real books of magic, and uh.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, it was got a pretty crazy collection.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah you do. It was just so weird to here's
some of the examples of how how specific you have
to be, like you saying overdue preparation and safety when
it comes to that stuff. And you know, there could
be some of you who do that stuff, but I
would have to reiterate that, always double triple check things.
There were some entities they were talking about that if
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you don't ask them to speak a certain way, you're
in fucking trouble. If you don't ask them to peer
in a regular human form, you're in fucking trouble.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, there's there's a whole bunch of shit. My
partner's got me so many of these books and she
gets so freaked out by it. And she, uh, the
the one in particular that that really freaks her out
as the Book of Smokeless Fire. And I'm always like,
listen the stuff in here. It's not like I'm just
gonna stumble upon something here like this is so precise,
(32:49):
like some of these, I have to be in a
fucking desert. There's no deserts around here, like you, We're fine.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I'm not climbing a mountain to some in the demon
of Wind. We're gonna be okay, I'm not. I'm not
fucking around with any of this shit.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
It's fine, Yeah, I mean, as old as I am,
I still find it absolutely fascinating that humans have, i
mean claimed to have stumbled upon these things and figured
out how to summon them. And it's like it's an
actual part of our world, you know, it's a but
part of a belief system for almost every culture to
be able to do this with these entities and beings.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, And it's because I don't really I'm not out
there summony demons and shit. I find it very interesting.
And I'm more I say, I'm an armchair occultist because
I don't really practice, but I study the shit out
of it, and I just I just to me, there's
always a part in my head that wonders is this real?
(33:47):
But also I don't want to find out if it's real,
Like that's the type of shit that like some of
that stuff, it's it's too far for me to even
want to get involved, Like I'll fuck with a Ouiji board,
I'll fuck with with a black marror, I'll do that stuff. Like,
but actively trying to summon a demon or a gin
(34:11):
or some sort of ancient spirit and not only summoning
it but then trying to maintain control of the situation
is absolutely terrifying to me. And I don't want to
do that. Like I'm I'm good there, I don't. I
don't need to know whatever knowledge they're going to impart
(34:33):
upon me, except for stole Us. Stole Us. I'll hang
out with him all day. He's the he's the owl one.
Oh yeah, yeah, Steph knows what's up.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, it's you know, reading some of these things. And uh,
I've looked into that stuff a lot too. I you know,
people always say you don't know how you'll react. I've
recently gone through that, somebody saying you don't know how
we react if you go through this and went through this,
and I was like, see, and uh, I think most
people would blow it when a seven foot tall man
(35:06):
in a robe that has the face of a lion
and like a man's face coming out of that cheek
of that lion that has bat wings and like a
whip of leather. I don't I don't think there's too
many people who are gonna follow instruction properly after just
seeing right.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, well, and not only that, but just what it
takes to like you, there's some rituals you need to
abstain from everything, and like no no water, no drinking anything,
no eating anything, no sex, no no getting high, nothing
(35:44):
like abstained from completely everything. And then you have to
go through this whole ritual process. And even then you've
got to get everything precise, and after that there's still
no guarantee, Like there's been people that tried certain thing,
certain rituals for years and weren't able to get through it.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, dude, And that goes through a lot of stuff.
It's kind of off subjects, but I was watching some
interview today and they're talking about the government using remote
viewers and he was dropping names, so I kind of
want to read into it. What's up, Sam, I see
you in their buddy. He was talking about certain remote
viewers that went to the moon and when they got there,
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they observed slave labor going on, and funny enough, they
said that it was the Nords doing the slave labor.
And this is right after they went to the moon,
so they wanted to go back, but they decided to
use remote viewing, I guess. But one of the Nords
noticed this remote viewer and told him you are not
supposed to be here at all. And they sent back
(36:51):
a couple of remote viewers and each of them came
back with a warning of do not come here again.
Do not come here again, and they sure sent somebody
else and they said that they were able to imprison
him while in this remote viewing form, and they say
he's at some facility in Colorado. His family was told
(37:14):
that he died, but he's in this vegetative state. So
even messing with that, that's fucked up. That's the way
they've so fucked up. Yeah, so even messing with that
stuff that people think, professionals think they understand, tragedy can happen.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, that's kind of did you ever see uh insidious?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
No, sir.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
So that the first one is about this kid who's
able to astral project and at one point he gets
lost outside of his body and so he goes into
this catatonic state and he's basically in a coma. Meanwhile,
his astral body is just like out in the astral realm,
(37:56):
chilling with ghosts and shit. And because his body is
left open, other entities from this place that he's in
are able to come through his body like an open
doorway into the house.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yikes.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, but that's it's similar in that he was outside
of his body in a way and was kind of
held captive against his will while he was out of body.
But how fucked would that be if there was like
a one of these mk Ultra offshoot programs where they
were teaching people to project, and when the person got
(38:34):
too far gone, they're just like, no, we're we're not
letting them back in their body, and they're able to
somehow block them from getting Imagine how terrifying that would be, though,
Like now you're this this ethereal form loosely tethered to
your body, but you can't get back in.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
That sounds like it's the year like thirty twenty Five's
like life sentencing. They just shoot you into astral space
and cut off the connection. Yeah, and that, Yeah, can
you imagine like having a dream And we've talked a
lot about dreams, like my issues with sleep, and we
talked to Kevin stuff about all that. But just imagine
(39:15):
being in a dream and not liking it, doing the
things necessary to take control of that dream, and having
somebody in a dream just turn around and being like
somebody get them.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, yeah, that'd be even worse. They fucking imprisoned your
astral body.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Now you're trapped in astral jail.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yep, just like ethereal handcuffs up here, they put them
on you, they slam you on the ground. There's suddenly
five hundred people putting their foot on your back.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, it's like the matrix.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah fuck that.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So what's this other type of story that you wanted
to cut?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Oh yeah, I forgot we had another thing to talk about.
I got lost in the in the weirdo magic stuff.
So have you ever heard of the Midnight Game?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
No? And there's so many of those new I know,
blanket game things that that go around, and even if
they're like a like BS creepypasta or not, I know,
there's some that existed before the Internet. So I give
I give those some credibility.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, I mean, I really at the end of the day,
it's it's just kind of it's it's one of those
games that maybe potentially summon something, but it's it's just
one of those scary games that that kids play when
they're young and dumb. But there's a like Poteo said,
there's a shitload of these. If you guys ever want
(40:34):
us to do a full episode on these stupid, dumb,
scary kid games, just let us know, leave comments, emails,
smoke signals, whatever, teacher baby sign language, let us know.
I'll do the I'll do a episode on. But this
particular game, the Midnight Game, was well, I'm gonna be real,
(40:57):
it was. It was very likely created in twenty ten.
That's that's the first time it appeared on the end
on the Internet. But the story of this game is
that it was an old pagan ritual that was used
as punishment for those who disobeyed their gods, and anybody
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that would have gone against the will of the gods
had to play their version of the Midnight Game and
if they survived, then they were you know, I get
they were viewed to be worthy of remaining in with
(41:42):
with the with their people. If if not, then they
clearly angered the gods and they were killed as punishment.
But it's a really basic game. It's you can play
it alone. But if there's any anybody else in the house,
whether they're aware of the game or not, if you
(42:03):
start playing the game, they are now involved in that game.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
So you know they could be sleeping peacefully not knowing
that they're about to be tormented or killed or cursed
or what have you. By the Midnight Man, mid nightmam, yep,
the Midnight Man. Oh shit.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
I would say it would sound like it's a cool
comic character, but it is a cool comic book.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, I mean the episode is Bloody Mary and the
Midnight Man, Like it really sounds like a comic book crossover.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
But for this particular game, you only need a few
a few items, few ingredients. You need one candle, you
need either a lighter or a book of matches, a
piece of paper, something to write with a pin, a
closed indoor, and salt.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
So the whole game. You need to begin the game
before midnight and the just so you know ahead of
time for those playing along at home, you need to
start before midnight. But it needs to the entire thing
needs to be done exactly when the clock chimes midnight,
(43:26):
So make preparations to you know, maybe practice ahead of time.
I don't know. I'm not your mom. Do whatever you want.
Step two. On that piece of paper, you will write
your full name, first, middle, second, middle if you have one, last, second,
last if you have one, and any suffixes. Once you
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write your name, take that needle. Prick your finger or
your desired body part. Get a little blood on that
their paper, let it soak in. Take your time. Once
your blood has sufficiently soaked the paper, turn off every
light in the house. After you've turned off every light,
take your bloody paper that you've previously written your entire
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name on it, place it in front of a closed
wooden door. Light a candle using your matches or lighter,
and place that candle on top of the paper. For
safety measures. If you're using something that's not already contained,
please put it in a candle holder. You don't want
to burn your house down before you get to the
midnight man part. That would be you're gonna have an
(44:34):
even worse time, so just don't do it. After you've
lit the candle, knock on the door twenty two times,
but the final knock must occur precisely when the clock
hits twelve, So maybe an alarm clock on your phone
might be a good way to do it. Or if
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you've got one of those cool clocks that bong every hour,
that'd be you know, just time it so that they
can coincide with one another. Once the clock chimes twelve
and you've hit your twenty second knock open the door,
blow out your candle, and close the door. Immediately relight
(45:16):
your candle. Now the game has begun, So the purpose
of the game is to keep your candle in your hand,
keep salt ready to go, as well as matches or
a spare lighter, and begin to walk around your home
with your lit candle. If your candle goes out, you
(45:37):
have ten seconds to relight it. If you are successful,
you continue to move around the house and don't stop
moving until three thirty three in the morning. If for
any reason, you cannot relight your candle within ten seconds,
immediately surround yourself with a circle of salt and do
(45:58):
not get outside of that circle of salt until three
thirty three am. At three thirty three am, it is
now safe to stop moving around your house or to
step outside of your salt circle. At this point in time,
you can turn the lights on and the game is over.
(46:18):
So you're thinking to yourself, what's the big deal? Why
is that so weird? Now, here's the thing. When you're
knocking on that door, blow out your candle, open it,
close the door again, and then relight it. You've invited
the midnight Man into your home. The goal of the
game is to avoid meeting the Midnight Man in the dark,
(46:39):
so you're continually moving around your house, so it's difficult
for him to find you. No, if you stop moving,
he will catch you.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Oh my god, what happens to.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
You if he catches you? Is with all these things?
It's up for debate. But some say he will induce
a hallucination of your greatest fear and that you'll have
to endure your greatest fear until the end of the game.
Others claim that he will harvest your organs, and then
there's of course the obligatory death or he steals your soul.
(47:14):
There are indicators that might clue you in when the
Midnight Man is near. The room will suddenly get cold.
You may hear a soft whisper with no discernible source.
You might make out the appearance of a human figure
that's darker than the darkness. He will also try to
(47:35):
blow your candle out. Oh no, if you experience temperature drops, whispers,
or see him, you need to move and change rooms immediately. However,
if he blows out your candle, you need to relight
it within ten seconds or get that circle assault ready
(47:56):
and get ready to chill. Once you start this game,
there's no way to stop the game until it's over.
Once the game is over, you can safely end the game.
During the game, you are not allowed to turn on
any lights. You cannot use a flashlight. Don't go to sleep.
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Don't walk around with a lighter. It always has to
be a candle, so you can't just hold a lighter
and walk around. It must be a candle. Do not
use another person's blood or old blood. It has to
be fresh blood. Do not attempt to leave your home
during the game. Do not attempt to provoke the midnight Man,
(48:39):
so no talking shit. And the final warning is do
not assume that the Midnight Man has left your home
for good at the conclusion of the game. So you
may have won the game, but he might want to
play again. Is basically what that comes down to. Like
I said before, anybody in the house is playing the game,
(49:03):
whether they're aware of it or not. And to answer
Nicki in the in the chat, you can do it
in someone else's house, That's totally fine, but again be
mindful if somebody else is there, they are playing too.
So's if you want to invite if you want to
(49:25):
invite the Midnight Man into other people's houses, go nuts.
Just just be prepared to protect yourself and potentially curse
the person whose house you're in. Oh my god, you guys,
you guys in the chat, you got you got some
some bad ideas, don't If you two team up, If
Nicki and Steff team up, then I.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Don't even know. It's gonna turn it up Ghostbusters too.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
You're gonna have a bunch of slime monsters. Yeah, you
go the If you go the carpathiod.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
An entire, they're gonna phase a ghost world with our
world perfect.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
So long as we get the dancing Statue of Liberty,
That's that's my main concern there. If it doesn't end
with the Statue of Liberty rocking out and breaking a building,
I don't even give a shit.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Sam Safe, He's got a two point one kill death
ratio on call of duty.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I agree, I don't. I don't know if the midnight
Man cares about your stats. The midnight Man doesn't even
know what a what a call of duty is? What
our call of duty? I am midnight man.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
I'm only here to chase you and then take your
soul and or kill you.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, take your soul, or curse you, or maybe just
piss on your pillows. Oh god, I mean, who knows?
The midnight Man works in mysterious ways.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Can you imagine you just do this ritual and nothing happens,
and you like, say fuck it, and four hours later
go to bed and you lay down in your.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Face all your pillows are soggy and smell like piss.
Oh like, ah, curse you, midnight man. So it did work.
You just hear this little good What is that? It's
the midnight Man giggling as he pisses on your pillows.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
That pissy bastard.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah fuck that guy.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
At least he doesn't wait till you go to bed
and do it.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Hey, maybe he does, Maybe he does, Maybe he comes
in both channels. Who knows?
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Speaker 1 (52:06):
M I don't know not to do.
President.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That's how the show starts. Oh, I'm coming in, both chicks.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I should have saved that I just deleted. That could
have used it.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
No, uh yuck.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
All right, what's up everybody? Thank you for no no,
we're going. Thank you for.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Looking to the We're off and running boy.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
All right, thank you for listening to the what cast.
We're having a great start.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
To the show. We're not drunk either. This is fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Mike, what are we going to talk about that? I'm
excited for this one because I have a kind of
a probably not unique point of view on it, but
a certain level of experience on this subject.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Mainly my plan was to talk about Bloody Mary, but
I also I just recently found out about this other
game called the Midnight Game, which is likely a creepy pasta,
but I wanted to talk about it because it's one
of those things that I don't know. There's this whole
internet thing of kids playing these like creepy games that
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are supposed to put you in touch with demons or
ghosts or shadow people or whatever, and this is one
of them. If there's any interest, maybe down the line,
we'll do an episode on all these wacky games. But
I figured bloody Mary is a good starting point. That's
something most people our age are familiar with, if not
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younger and older.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, when I sat down a I wanted to see
if I can find something else to talk about other
than Bloody Mary. And I found like some things that,
I mean, there's not much information on. It's a sentence
and it's things like bloody Mary. But Bloody Mary sure
is like the most famous what would you call it,
like a entity that you can summon, a summoning mean, I.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Guess it's like a ritual game or something, because it
I don't know, it's so bloody Mary itself like it's spawned.
It's not as old as a lot of people would think.
The original story, or the original game that it was
based around, was this ritual where young women would walk
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up a flight of stairs holding a candle and looking
into a mirror in a dark house, and as they
looked into the mirror, they were supposed to be able
to catch the face of of whoever they were going
to marry when they grew up. But there was a
chance that they would see the Grim Reaper or a
skeleton or something along those lines, and if they did,
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it meant that they would die before they got married,
and over time.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I was gonna say it seems like it started off
all sweet, like girls trying to see their future husbands.
Yeah nope, you had to throw the grim reaper in there.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah. Well, and it was it was a game. But
it's kind of like it's it's actually it's a form
of divination that is called catop tramancy, and it's basically
divination done using a mirror. So it would be like
the equivalent of kids today like fucking around with tarot
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cards or Ouiji board or something. You know, it just
turned into a game rather than than something that was
really taking seriously. But as we know, those those things
are to open doorways. So even just fucking around and
playing around, if the intent is there, then you can
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get some responses.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Right, And you would know about that more than I would,
especially when it comes to the mirror stuff. But what
do you think about the whole mysticism behind mirrors. I
myself do not like mirrors. If it was if it
was possible, I wouldn't have one for some reason. My
mother's always had tons and tons of mirrors. But you
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hear about black mirrors and people using mirrors and rituals.
Is that something that's real? Is that something or is
that just is that it's in itself?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Urban? Yeah, that's no, that's it's there's different types of
divination and using a black mirror, which is essentially you're
putting some sort of black material behind like uh uh,
just a piece of glass, or you could put it
like in a picture frame and do the black mirror
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that way, but it's supposed to create a dark reflective surface.
That's the whole point of it. But I mean, I
think a lot of it is what you make of it.
Like people are able to do like use fire and
flames as a means of divination, and by looking into
the flames, they're given visions, you know, whether it be
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the flames make certain shapes or go in certain ways
or puts them into a trance. But mirrors are the
same way. It's like you look into the mirror and
think of like the magic eye thing, and I know
that's a computer generated image, but it's it's designed for
you to use the pattern and just kind of look
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through it to see a shape. So what you're doing
is looking into the mirror, but you're not looking at
your own reflection. You're kind of looking past the reflection
and letting the reflective surface kind of show you some
sort of vision or face or entity or what have you.
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But it's like a crystal ball. It's just a different
way of doing it. But if you're doing it as
a means of communication with some other entity or something
on the other side, then there's there are certain types
of invocation and evocation that you can do in front
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of a mirror to summon certain beings. So the idea
of like bloody Mary or a candy man, it's based
in kind of some occult practices. But it's not like
you're not going to go into a bathroom and participate
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in one of these summoning rituals or connection rituals and
make contact with another entity and then have it appear
behind you in disembolve you. It's that's not really how
it works. But you could be opening a doorway if
you're not taking the right precautions and protecting yourself, and
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it could lead to an infestation or a haunting or
something along those lines, or Bigfoot in your bathroom, because
as we know, bigfoot is not bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Which you will all soon learn Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Part part two coming soon.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Do you have any personal beefs or apprehensions about mirrors yourself,
knowing stuff like that can be No.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Not really. The only time I've ever had issues with
a mirror is a time that I was kind of
going through some shit and I took mushrooms and then
I looked in the mirror and I and after making
eye contact with myself. Like a lot of people will say, oh,
I saw my flesh melting off or I turned into
a skeleton or a rainbow or whatever, it was nothing
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like that. I made eye contact with myself in the mirror,
and I felt like I was looking at an evil
version of myself, like it was me. There was nothing like.
It's not like it was giving me a sinister grinner
or like looking scary or anything. It just it looked
at me, and I looked at my reflection. So I'm
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looking at myself, and just the look in my eyes
gave me the impression that it was evil. So I'm like, well, fuck,
the evil me is in there. But I kind of
got lost in it and I just stood there for
like I thought it was only a few minutes, and
but other people said it was like forty five minutes
all parties involved were tripping, so I have no actual
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way of knowing how long I was in there, but
I kind of got lost in my reflection for a
while and then I pulled myself away, And once I
pulled myself away, I had this really weird trip like
it It wasn't a bad trip, it was it was
like almost I felt like after that I turned sober
(09:03):
and like I was. I was just like, like, I
didn't feel like I was tripping anymore, but I felt
like a huge sense of euphoria that I didn't feel previously.
But other than that, no, I don't really give a
shit about mirrors. The only time I ever look in
the mirrors is when I'm combing my hair or flossing,
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and that's that's really about it. So mirrors really don't
matter much to me. I guess. I'm like, they don't
freak me out at all. When I was younger, they
kind of did, but I think it was just because
I watched a lot of horror movies as a kid
and it just kind of resonated with me.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, I bet, But I do.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Remember the Bloody Mary's story telling it to my brother
growing up and we were kids. I was I would
guess maybe ten, so he probably seven or eight, depending
on what time of the year, but he was young
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either way. And I I told him about Bloody Mary,
and I dared him to go do it, and I
and I ended up freaking him out, and he went
to my mom and my Mom's like, it's not real.
And then I got in trouble for scaring my little brother.
And I always used to do that shit. I don't
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know why, I just uh, because we grew up so
close together, we were just over two years apart. I
remember one time, you know, the the hidden track on
Undertow about the carrots and the Life feeds On Life,
yeah thing. So I very quietly turned it on in
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our room when when I was in middle school, so
he would have been in like fifth grade probably, and
I just really quietly turned it on, so it was faint,
but it was loud enough that you can hear it.
And I got right to the life feeds on Life part,
where it's got that that weird percussion beat going and
it just keeps repeating Life feeds on, Life feeds on
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This is necessary, that whole thing, and he got so
freaked out because I played it up like I had
no idea what it was and I was acting like
I was freaking So he again, he runs to my
parents and then they come in. I turned the CD
player off, and I'm like, I don't know it's I
don't know what a dick? What a dick?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, we had too much, like real spooky shit going
on to fuck with each other in that way.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, I mean little did I know? We did as well.
I just wasn't really dealing with it at the time,
I guess. I mean that actually would have been after
I saw that ghost though, or the I don't want
to call it a ghost, the entity.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But yeah, to answer your question, it is based on
actual occult practices. So that's a that's a that's a
real thing, well real in the sense that it's a practice,
not not necessarily real as in, although it could be.
I guess it's all based around your your own personal
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belief system.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Now, if you went to somebody's house for the first
time and they just had a clear overabundance of mirrors,
would that give you a pause. No, you wouldn't think
that they're I would.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Think that they were probably pretty vain unless they had
them set up in like a ritualistic way. I would
think they were either really vain or got down with
the really freaky sex, or maybe both.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Maybe they come in both channels. I don't know. Yeah, hey,
you got to be here for the live recording to
get that. Folks, It's not what's the thing. I'm not
that vulgar. You should know that.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
But it it might be. It might be what you think. Guys,
he deleted it, so you'll never know.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
It didn't happen. Yeah, that's how you do that.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Though it did. So anyway, what do you know about
Bloody Mary? Tell me so? I'm also curious about this
about different different regional takes on Bloody Mary, because it
everyone is kind of different. So what was what was
your experience with Bloody Mary?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Bloody Mary was an entity that you can summon by
saying her name three times in the mirror in a
bathroom in the dark with only candlelight. Nobody ever knew
what happened when she showed up because everybody was too
scared to do it. But she was supposedly a girl
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who either one killed herself over a broken heart or
was killed tragically. And I guess if you would invoke her,
she'll come back and seek her revenge. At the age,
like I said before, we were having real spooky shit
go on. So when we were young kids and we
heard about or learned about Bloody Mary, we just were
not doing that at all. We're not fucking with anything
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like that. We eventually did do the whole Bloody Mary thing,
but even then, probably from having more real experiences is
I was like, so I was able to deduce, like,
if she kills you, how is the story out? You know,
like it's just it's all stupid. This is not gonna happen.
So we did it and nothing happened. I was like,
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this is just this is dumb shit. But we did
that when we were older. But when we were young,
we weren't gonna fuck with that shit. There was a
couple other people that all of a sudden, you can
say their name three times in the mirror and they
would do the same thing, and they had a backstory,
and I don't even remember what they were to be
honest with you, Yeah, I remember like talking to people
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when the Candy Man movies and them actually trying it.
I'm like, it's from a fucking movie.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, I know they're not going to actually put that
in there. Come on, guys.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, but it's just and you know, and they would
try it and be like yeah, it didn't worry.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I was like, no, shit, were you What was the end?
What was the end goal there? Like we we summon
them and then we get murdered.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, like death comes upon us. All, good job.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
We I'm pretty sure I talked about it in a
in a show some years ago. But we used to
have a local one called Lonely Bowl that if you
went to this site, it was a specific site in
our city. If you went there and you went into
this wooden gazebo, looked out the window and said Lonely Bowl,
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three times, he would appear. And so we would always
do it. Nothing, although one time there was a guy
who walked by who was dressed in He was dressed
in like all dark tan or like a brown colored
clothing that from a distance could potentially be like natural
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leather maybe. So I'm like, oh my god, it's it's
actually lowly bull and he's covered and uh no it
was I don't know who it was, dude, but as
a kid, I was like, I was like, you finally
havepen but no, it didn't. But we our version of
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Bloody Mary was basically the same. She would appear in
your mirror and she would be all, you know, a
woman all covered in blood, and she would try to
to kill you. I think was the thing. But there's
there's a lot of variations on it, and I was
I was kind of surprised, Like there's some that say
you have to say it five times, and I think
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that's probably post candy Man, because candy Man has to
be five times, so it's probably you know, followed suit
from there. Sometimes you need a candle, sometimes you don't
need a candle. Sometimes you have to say it fucking
fifty times. That's that's a lot of dedication to some
and Bloody Mary.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Right, I remember hearing you have to turn three times.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, yeah, and that's that's another one. You have to
you have to do the clockwise three times. And then
even how she appears and is different by locality, A
lot of people just it's her name is Bloody Mary.
So she appears as a bloody woman, typically in like
a dress or a nightgown, depending on the storyteller, but
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there's others where she appears as a corpse of a
woman like a zombie. I guess you'd say somewhere she's
a woman. There's somewhere she's a witch for some reason.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't know. Somewhere she's like this evil, demonic spirit.
And then there's somewhere she's actually friendly. So it's a
lot of different variations. And then what happens is also
different depending on the area. There's some areas where like
like Matteo and I, she would murder you. Then there's
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other ones where she would drink your blood and that's
why she was Bloody Mary, because she was a vampire ghost.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh see, I never drew that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Some Where she would curse you, so you'd go about
the rest of your life with a curse for summoning her.
Some she just shows up in screams like basically boo.
You know. But it's it's weird, how I guess it
shouldn't I guess I shouldn't say it's weird, but it's
it's interesting that there's so many variations on this one thing.
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But everybody knows, like you say bloody Mary and like,
oh yeah, you stand in front of a mirror and
somemon Bloody Mary. Everybody knows the basics of it. It's
just what happens and how she appears and everything and
how many times, you know, the ritual itself is slightly different, right,
But then even the origin, like you said, it was
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either someone who had died tragically or someone who committed suicide.
There's others that she was. She was Bloody Mary, the
first Queen of England, daughter of Henry the eighth. A lot, yeah,
because she was known historically as Bloody Mary because she
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killed or she had three hundred protesters burned at the
stake during her reign, so she earned the nickname Bloody Mary.
There's another story that she was a woman who killed
slaves that were escaped from the South through the underground railroad,
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that she would kind of lure them into the underground
railroad system but it wasn't really the underground railroad, and
that you would murder them and now she's Bloody Mary,
and that version she goes by the name Mary Worth.
Then there's another version that she was a woman who
was burned at the stake during the witch trials, even
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though the American witch trials didn't have people burnt at
the stake. But in this story, she was burned at
the stake and now she's back to seek her revenge
through mirror magic.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Well it's a really cheesy way to get revenge that happened. Yeah,
they have to know your name, hold your candle, say
your name three times while they're turning yeah in a
dark damn.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah yeah, doing a little jig and ringing a bell
and then fighting once while pointing your butt to the left.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, she appears, she's like, you've got bad luck.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I mean, she's like, oh, you got it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You had to work for this.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Speaking speaking of asses, though, there's a Japanese variant on
Bloody Mary called Hanako San, and it's a legend centered
around this young girl who haunts bathrooms, typically in a school,
and she was killed in an air raid during World
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War two, and apparently the story goes that she was
apparently playing hide and seek during the air raid, she
just hiding in the bathroom and died in the bathroom
with just like Bloody Mary. There's other variants on it.
That seems to be the main one, but there's another
variant that she was bullied at school and ended up
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going into the bathroom and taking her own life as
a result of the bullying. There's another one that she
was killed by her parent. There's another one she's killed
potentially by a teacher, and another one where a stranger
pulled her into the bathroom and killed her. But the
story goes that this girl died tragically, however, and now
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haunts school bathrooms, and she is typically typically described the
same way. She's got a bobbed haircut and is wearing
either a red skirt or a red dress. And the
ritual itself is that you have to go into the
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girl's bathroom, which if a school has multiple floors, you'd
have to go to the third floor of the school. Typically,
once you get to the bathroom on the third floor,
you walk down to the third stall, and then you
knock three times on that door, and you ask if
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hanako San is present, and if she's there, then she'll
reply back letting you know that she's there, you know, basically, yeah, present,
And then at that point, whoever summons her will witness
the appearance of either a bloody or a spectral hand,
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or Hanakosan herself may appear and pull the person that
summoned her into the toilet, which leads to hell, Hell,
the hell toilet, Yeah, the hell toilet or the craziest
punishment of all. And you're gonna love this one. The
person that summoned her will get eaten by a three
(23:39):
headed lizard. Yes, for no reason at all, just because
you're invading her privacy.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, that's that's what should happen. I need that to
be happening in the world. And if you bother her,
I think that's a good excuse.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah. So that it's uh, just kind of a I guess,
a different take on the same sort of story.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, and it's interesting because I guess, like I did
a little reading on that, and that started back in
the fifties. So, I mean, it's another one of these
long standing ones Miss Stephanie's talking about. There's games made
about this person and this this legend. It's neat. I
wish there was a bloody marry game. If there was one,
I would probably suck ass. Huh.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I'm no, I'm sure there's a bloody marry game. There's
gotta be one.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah. See now in Miss Stephanie saying there's a whole
anime of it, that's now I want to watch it.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Well, there we go, There we go. We got an
anime of it that doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
But that's I'm and I'm I'm sure there's there's all
around the world. There's probably similar stories like this. But
I I just I just remember as a kid hearing
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about the story and just I knew that it wasn't real,
but I kind of wanted it to be. And I
don't know, I've always been weird like that, where like
I just I like to be scared and I want
something to like really scare me. And I never thought
that would work. And I tried it multiple times at
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multiple houses. And I've yet to see a bloody Mary.
So maybe she just doesn't like me. She's not into me.
I'm not her type. Yeah, yeah, Mary, Baby, if you're listening,
just show just show me a little bit of love.
Just give me a chance, Mary, Just give me a chance.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Now, knowing about real summoning stuff, Tulpa Mancy all that
type of stuff, knowing about real rituals that are require
the use of mirrors and things like that, do you
see any correlation to the real stuff with doing these
slight ritualistic bloody Mary things like I mean, with the
(25:58):
Ouiji board. There's no there's no gray area. It's something
that was using sances back in the day. That's what
its purpose was, and now you can buy it in
the board game section. Is there anything that could be
actually dangerous with doing that comparing it to actual factual
rituals and mirror magic.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well, the way that I say it is anything can
be dangerous if you're not careful, and if you're just
like fucking around and trying to do some really heavy
spell shit, then without doing the proper work that goes
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into it ahead of time and taking the proper precautions
to protect yourself, then you may be opening yourself up
to something. It's not going to be something like candy
Man where you're gonna get killed, but the potential is
there for like I said earlier, an infestation or hunting
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just from fucking around. And it's like that with with
Wigi boards too, though. If you're not if you're not
going to be responsible with a Wigi board and you're
going to seriously try to do something with it but
not give it the property respect it deserves, you could
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open a gate that you don't know how to close.
What I always the way that I feel about the
occult and and especially any sort of summoning rituals or
spells is do more work than is needed before you
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do any of that. Don't don't get into it thinking, oh,
I'm going to talk to a demon. A lot of
these entities, especially the more powerful ones, aren't there to
have their time wasted. So if you're just fucking around
and you're not offering anything, they're going to take something,
and whether be your energy or you know, there's a
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lot of things that could happen if you're not respectful
and careful while doing these these sorts of practices, which
is also not to say that it's something that you
necessarily need to avoid. If it's something that interests you,
then by all means, get into it. Just make sure
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you're you're well read on the subject, you know what
you're getting into, and you're able to perform every step
of the ritual or spell. Look at look at ash
and evil debt. He fucked up the one word yea,
and as a result, things want to shit. Don't don't
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fuck up the one word. Take the time, learn what
you need to learn and know how to protect yourself.
If it's if it interests you people have been claiming
to connect with entities for centuries and whatever it is.
I mean, I get a lot of shit for this,
but I was raised Catholic, so so that's kind of
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my frame of reference. But having learned about different facets
of occult later in life, after I kind of got
out of Catholicism, I started to realize how much the
Catholic mass and practices are very close to occult practices.
(29:27):
And like when you're when you're praying and you're you're
sending your prayers to specific saints or specific angels, it's
it's no different from somebody else working with a demon
or an angel or some sort of spirit guide or entity,
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and it's it's all very and the mass itself is
it's it's a group ritual, is what it is, a
ceremonial group ritual, and everybody participates in it. And the
secret sauce there is is the belief, you know, and
that's that's the same with with any occult practices. It's
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your intent and the faith that you have behind it,
your your belief, and that's no different from from the
power of prayer. That's why that's why people always say
that prayers is so effective because it's based heavily on
your faith, and if your faith is enough that it
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matches with your intent, you're able to somewhat shape reality
as a result of that. And that's kind of what
a lot of occult systems are is just shaping reality
to your will in one way, shape, or form, and
whether you put that in the hands of a higher
power like God or the Earth Mother or the universe
(30:54):
or fucking Cthulhu, whatever the case may be, or even
if you look like like with some of the Satanists
belief systems, where you look at yourself as a god
and and you are the one putting that into existence,
you're still putting faith in something and and that is
giving you the power to enact your will upon the universe.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah. It's almost like it's a form of currency, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, kind of your energy is a currency.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah. I was watching some video not too long ago
about it was I started on some videos about talking
about the demons that Solomon summon to build his temple,
and then the video the next video played by itself
and it was just a longer list of demons and
what their names are and how to some of them
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and they were talking about getting them out of some
creepy books that you got, Mike, like these were from
Grimoire's and some real books, real books of magic, and uh.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, it was got a pretty crazy collection.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah you do. It was just so weird to here's
some of the examples of how how specific you have
to be, like you saying overdue preparation and safety when
it comes to that stuff. And you know, there could
be some of you who do that stuff, but I
would have to reiterate that, always double triple check things.
There were some entities they were talking about that if
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you don't ask them to speak a certain way, you're
in fucking trouble. If you don't ask them to peer
in a regular human form, you're in fucking trouble.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, there's there's a whole bunch of shit. My
partner's got me so many of these books and she
gets so freaked out by it. And she, uh, the
the one in particular that that really freaks her out
as the Book of Smokeless Fire. And I'm always like,
listen the stuff in here. It's not like I'm just
gonna stumble upon something here like this is so precise,
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like some of these, I have to be in a
fucking desert. There's no deserts around here, like you, We're fine.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I'm not climbing a mountain to some in the demon
of Wind. We're gonna be okay, I'm not. I'm not
fucking around with any of this shit.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
It's fine, Yeah, I mean, as old as I am,
I still find it absolutely fascinating that humans have, i
mean claimed to have stumbled upon these things and figured
out how to summon them. And it's like it's an
actual part of our world, you know, it's a but
part of a belief system for almost every culture to
be able to do this with these entities and beings.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, And it's because I don't really I'm not out
there summony demons and shit. I find it very interesting.
And I'm more I say, I'm an armchair occultist because
I don't really practice, but I study the shit out
of it, and I just I just to me, there's
always a part in my head that wonders is this real?
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But also I don't want to find out if it's real,
Like that's the type of shit that like some of
that stuff, it's it's too far for me to even
want to get involved, Like I'll fuck with a Ouiji board,
I'll fuck with with a black marror, I'll do that stuff. Like,
but actively trying to summon a demon or a gin
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or some sort of ancient spirit and not only summoning
it but then trying to maintain control of the situation
is absolutely terrifying to me. And I don't want to
do that. Like I'm I'm good there, I don't. I
don't need to know whatever knowledge they're going to impart
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upon me, except for stole Us. Stole Us. I'll hang
out with him all day. He's the he's the owl one.
Oh yeah, yeah, Steph knows what's up.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, it's you know, reading some of these things. And uh,
I've looked into that stuff a lot too. I you know,
people always say you don't know how you'll react. I've
recently gone through that, somebody saying you don't know how
we react if you go through this and went through this,
and I was like, see, and uh, I think most
people would blow it when a seven foot tall man
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in a robe that has the face of a lion
and like a man's face coming out of that cheek
of that lion that has bat wings and like a
whip of leather. I don't I don't think there's too
many people who are gonna follow instruction properly after just
seeing right.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, well, and not only that, but just what it
takes to like you, there's some rituals you need to
abstain from everything, and like no no water, no drinking anything,
no eating anything, no sex, no no getting high, nothing
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like abstained from completely everything. And then you have to
go through this whole ritual process. And even then you've
got to get everything precise, and after that there's still
no guarantee, Like there's been people that tried certain thing,
certain rituals for years and weren't able to get through it.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, dude, And that goes through a lot of stuff.
It's kind of off subjects, but I was watching some
interview today and they're talking about the government using remote
viewers and he was dropping names, so I kind of
want to read into it. What's up, Sam, I see
you in their buddy. He was talking about certain remote
viewers that went to the moon and when they got there,
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they observed slave labor going on, and funny enough, they
said that it was the Nords doing the slave labor.
And this is right after they went to the moon,
so they wanted to go back, but they decided to
use remote viewing, I guess. But one of the Nords
noticed this remote viewer and told him you are not
supposed to be here at all. And they sent back
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a couple of remote viewers and each of them came
back with a warning of do not come here again.
Do not come here again, and they sure sent somebody
else and they said that they were able to imprison
him while in this remote viewing form, and they say
he's at some facility in Colorado. His family was told
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that he died, but he's in this vegetative state. So
even messing with that, that's fucked up. That's the way
they've so fucked up. Yeah, so even messing with that
stuff that people think, professionals think they understand, tragedy can happen.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, that's kind of did you ever see uh insidious?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
No, sir.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
So that the first one is about this kid who's
able to astral project and at one point he gets
lost outside of his body and so he goes into
this catatonic state and he's basically in a coma. Meanwhile,
his astral body is just like out in the astral realm,
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chilling with ghosts and shit. And because his body is
left open, other entities from this place that he's in
are able to come through his body like an open
doorway into the house.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yikes.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, but that's it's similar in that he was outside
of his body in a way and was kind of
held captive against his will while he was out of body.
But how fucked would that be if there was like
a one of these mk Ultra offshoot programs where they
were teaching people to project, and when the person got
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too far gone, they're just like, no, we're we're not
letting them back in their body, and they're able to
somehow block them from getting Imagine how terrifying that would be, though,
Like now you're this this ethereal form loosely tethered to
your body, but you can't get back in.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
That sounds like it's the year like thirty twenty Five's
like life sentencing. They just shoot you into astral space
and cut off the connection. Yeah, and that, Yeah, can
you imagine like having a dream And we've talked a
lot about dreams, like my issues with sleep, and we
talked to Kevin stuff about all that. But just imagine
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being in a dream and not liking it, doing the
things necessary to take control of that dream, and having
somebody in a dream just turn around and being like
somebody get them.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, yeah, that'd be even worse. They fucking imprisoned your
astral body.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Now you're trapped in astral jail.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yep, just like ethereal handcuffs up here, they put them
on you, they slam you on the ground. There's suddenly
five hundred people putting their foot on your back.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, it's like the matrix.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah fuck that.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So what's this other type of story that you wanted
to cut?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Oh yeah, I forgot we had another thing to talk about.
I got lost in the in the weirdo magic stuff.
So have you ever heard of the Midnight Game?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
No? And there's so many of those new I know,
blanket game things that that go around, and even if
they're like a like BS creepypasta or not, I know,
there's some that existed before the Internet. So I give
I give those some credibility.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, I mean, I really at the end of the day,
it's it's just kind of it's it's one of those
games that maybe potentially summon something, but it's it's just
one of those scary games that that kids play when
they're young and dumb. But there's a like Poteo said,
there's a shitload of these. If you guys ever want
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us to do a full episode on these stupid, dumb,
scary kid games, just let us know, leave comments, emails,
smoke signals, whatever, teacher baby sign language, let us know.
I'll do the I'll do a episode on. But this
particular game, the Midnight Game, was well, I'm gonna be real,
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it was. It was very likely created in twenty ten.
That's that's the first time it appeared on the end
on the Internet. But the story of this game is
that it was an old pagan ritual that was used
as punishment for those who disobeyed their gods, and anybody
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that would have gone against the will of the gods
had to play their version of the Midnight Game and
if they survived, then they were you know, I get
they were viewed to be worthy of remaining in with
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with the with their people. If if not, then they
clearly angered the gods and they were killed as punishment.
But it's a really basic game. It's you can play
it alone. But if there's any anybody else in the house,
whether they're aware of the game or not, if you
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start playing the game, they are now involved in that game.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
So you know they could be sleeping peacefully not knowing
that they're about to be tormented or killed or cursed
or what have you. By the Midnight Man, mid nightmam, yep,
the Midnight Man. Oh shit.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
I would say it would sound like it's a cool
comic character, but it is a cool comic book.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, I mean the episode is Bloody Mary and the
Midnight Man, Like it really sounds like a comic book crossover.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
But for this particular game, you only need a few
a few items, few ingredients. You need one candle, you
need either a lighter or a book of matches, a
piece of paper, something to write with a pin, a
closed indoor, and salt.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
So the whole game. You need to begin the game
before midnight and the just so you know ahead of
time for those playing along at home, you need to
start before midnight. But it needs to the entire thing
needs to be done exactly when the clock chimes midnight,
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So make preparations to you know, maybe practice ahead of time.
I don't know. I'm not your mom. Do whatever you want.
Step two. On that piece of paper, you will write
your full name, first, middle, second, middle if you have one, last, second,
last if you have one, and any suffixes. Once you
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write your name, take that needle. Prick your finger or
your desired body part. Get a little blood on that
their paper, let it soak in. Take your time. Once
your blood has sufficiently soaked the paper, turn off every
light in the house. After you've turned off every light,
take your bloody paper that you've previously written your entire
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name on it, place it in front of a closed
wooden door. Light a candle using your matches or lighter,
and place that candle on top of the paper. For
safety measures. If you're using something that's not already contained,
please put it in a candle holder. You don't want
to burn your house down before you get to the
midnight man part. That would be you're gonna have an
(44:34):
even worse time, so just don't do it. After you've
lit the candle, knock on the door twenty two times,
but the final knock must occur precisely when the clock
hits twelve, So maybe an alarm clock on your phone
might be a good way to do it. Or if
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you've got one of those cool clocks that bong every hour,
that'd be you know, just time it so that they
can coincide with one another. Once the clock chimes twelve
and you've hit your twenty second knock open the door,
blow out your candle, and close the door. Immediately relight
(45:16):
your candle. Now the game has begun, So the purpose
of the game is to keep your candle in your hand,
keep salt ready to go, as well as matches or
a spare lighter, and begin to walk around your home
with your lit candle. If your candle goes out, you
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have ten seconds to relight it. If you are successful,
you continue to move around the house and don't stop
moving until three thirty three in the morning. If for
any reason, you cannot relight your candle within ten seconds,
immediately surround yourself with a circle of salt and do
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not get outside of that circle of salt until three
thirty three am. At three thirty three am, it is
now safe to stop moving around your house or to
step outside of your salt circle. At this point in time,
you can turn the lights on and the game is over.
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So you're thinking to yourself, what's the big deal? Why
is that so weird? Now, here's the thing. When you're
knocking on that door, blow out your candle, open it,
close the door again, and then relight it. You've invited
the midnight Man into your home. The goal of the
game is to avoid meeting the Midnight Man in the dark,
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so you're continually moving around your house, so it's difficult
for him to find you. No, if you stop moving,
he will catch you.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Oh my god, what happens to.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
You if he catches you? Is with all these things?
It's up for debate. But some say he will induce
a hallucination of your greatest fear and that you'll have
to endure your greatest fear until the end of the game.
Others claim that he will harvest your organs, and then
there's of course the obligatory death or he steals your soul.
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There are indicators that might clue you in when the
Midnight Man is near. The room will suddenly get cold.
You may hear a soft whisper with no discernible source.
You might make out the appearance of a human figure
that's darker than the darkness. He will also try to
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blow your candle out. Oh no, if you experience temperature drops, whispers,
or see him, you need to move and change rooms immediately. However,
if he blows out your candle, you need to relight
it within ten seconds or get that circle assault ready
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and get ready to chill. Once you start this game,
there's no way to stop the game until it's over.
Once the game is over, you can safely end the game.
During the game, you are not allowed to turn on
any lights. You cannot use a flashlight. Don't go to sleep.
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Don't walk around with a lighter. It always has to
be a candle, so you can't just hold a lighter
and walk around. It must be a candle. Do not
use another person's blood or old blood. It has to
be fresh blood. Do not attempt to leave your home
during the game. Do not attempt to provoke the midnight Man,
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so no talking shit. And the final warning is do
not assume that the Midnight Man has left your home
for good at the conclusion of the game. So you
may have won the game, but he might want to
play again. Is basically what that comes down to. Like
I said before, anybody in the house is playing the game,
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whether they're aware of it or not. And to answer
Nicki in the in the chat, you can do it
in someone else's house, That's totally fine, but again be
mindful if somebody else is there, they are playing too.
So's if you want to invite if you want to
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invite the Midnight Man into other people's houses, go nuts.
Just just be prepared to protect yourself and potentially curse
the person whose house you're in. Oh my god, you guys,
you guys in the chat, you got you got some
some bad ideas, don't If you two team up, If
Nicki and Steff team up, then I.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Don't even know. It's gonna turn it up Ghostbusters too.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
You're gonna have a bunch of slime monsters. Yeah, you
go the If you go the carpathiod.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
An entire, they're gonna phase a ghost world with our
world perfect.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
So long as we get the dancing Statue of Liberty,
That's that's my main concern there. If it doesn't end
with the Statue of Liberty rocking out and breaking a building,
I don't even give a shit.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Sam Safe, He's got a two point one kill death
ratio on call of duty.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I agree, I don't. I don't know if the midnight
Man cares about your stats. The midnight Man doesn't even
know what a what a call of duty is? What
our call of duty? I am midnight man.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
I'm only here to chase you and then take your
soul and or kill you.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, take your soul, or curse you, or maybe just
piss on your pillows. Oh god, I mean, who knows?
The midnight Man works in mysterious ways.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Can you imagine you just do this ritual and nothing happens,
and you like, say fuck it, and four hours later
go to bed and you lay down in your.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Face all your pillows are soggy and smell like piss.
Oh like, ah, curse you, midnight man. So it did work.
You just hear this little good What is that? It's
the midnight Man giggling as he pisses on your pillows.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
That pissy bastard.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah fuck that guy.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
At least he doesn't wait till you go to bed
and do it.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Hey, maybe he does, Maybe he does, Maybe he comes
in both channels. Who knows?
Speaker 3 (51:29):
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Speaker 1 (52:06):
M I don't know not to do.
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