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May 15, 2024 79 mins

Watching Arik grow up from a young age, two guys that made it from Sac. We dive into the family dynamics of Matt's childhood, moving to Sac at a young age and dealing with racism. The journey to UCLA and being a two sport athlete. Getting drafted was a dream, but sticking in the NBA was the real dream. A true pioneer, and creating a lane for athletes in media. Plus, maturing and co parenting with Derek Fisher.

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