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Hello everyone out there.
This is Sophie Stewart, the creator and owner of Matrix and Terminator Femclan sizes, andthis is how I create.
Come to This Is How We Create, a show that digs deeper into the creative life ofcontemporary artists of color.
Discover what feeds their creativity and how they've found or are finding their artisticvoice.
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Through these intimate and candid conversations, you'll gain insights into the lives ofcreative professionals of color that are hard to find anywhere else.
Welcome to This Is How We Create.
My name is Martine Severn, your host, and I am so pleased to welcome child prodigy,prolific writer, poet, and creative genius, Sophia Stewart, to the show.
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Sophia is a gifted visionary who has received numerous awards for her achievements.
She received her Bachelor of Arts degree in journalism and majors.
in law and psychology from the City University of New York.
An American writer from New York City who is a producer, screenwriter, author, attorney.
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Sophia currently lives in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Welcome to the show, Sophia.
So Sophia, you grew up in the Bronx in New York along with some very well-known people.
But I would love for you to talk to us about your childhood and growing up in the Bronxand how you came to be exposed to creativity as well as to the arts.
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Well, not just only the Bronx, but Manhattan also.
So I am from the Pugetown with their column, JLo everybody knows she has a specialty onthat.
But I also grew up in Manhattan also.
And growing up in New York, the greatest communication city in the world, you just grow upwith a lot of knowledge.
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A lot of kids are very super, super smart, very intelligent, very
knowing, you know, knowing, um, a lot of people have problems with New Yorkers becausethey are just so blunt and so direct.
And I grew up with a lot of people that you guys know.
Like I say, JLo is from there.
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Jay Z is from there.
DMX is from also New York City and, um, Nas and the list just goes on and on and on.
A nominal people.
people that you already know and people that have done some amazing things.
It was quite a wonderful journey.
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I was inspired by a lot of people.
Some of my teachers, when I was in grade school, that is when I first began to write.
I'm talking about professionally.
My teacher, Mrs.
Day, got sick and we got a substitute teacher.
And this substitute teacher came from the college.
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And he told us he didn't know anything about English because Ms.
Day was our English teacher.
But he said he was going to teach us how to write.
And I was like, yay.
You know, because when you're 11 years old, you're in the seventh grade doing somethingdifferent from English is, hey, that's me.
And I wanted to please this guy.
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So I was trying to outdo everybody in writing.
And he said that I was an amazing writer.
you know, because he kept a lot of my work.
And then when I went on and to college and everything, I continued to write.
Fact while I was at USC, I wrote The Matrix and The Terminator.
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It's one epic story divided into two franchises, but it's one epic story.
The Terminator is the prequels or the beginning of that epic story, and it goes into TheMatrix, but it is passed
present and future time travel.
You see, I loved science fiction.
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That was one of my greatest thing is watching H.G.
Wells, watching Star Trek, watching Star Wars.
And when I saw Star Wars in the late seventies, I was a kid and we were at the ApolloTheater because the Sutton brothers owned it at that time.
And we used to go there every weekend to see every act you can imagine.
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in the music business, in the music field.
And through the week, they would have movies, they would show movies, and that's where wewould end up going.
Star Wars came out in 1977, and I saw it on the screen, didn't know what it was about, butit was talking about it was science fiction.
So I went and saw it and fell in love.
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But George Lucas was talking about how Satan, the devil, Lucifer, failed from the lightside to the dark side.
and that Luke and Leah was his children.
And when you saw Dark Vader, Dark Vader was like the devil.
I mean, the breathing, the black.
And so anyway, I thought about the second coming of the Christ.
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What if I wrote a science fiction that talked about revelations?
Because at that time I was reading the Bible, I was a Christian, I love God.
And so this is how it was born in me.
What I wrote was the second coming of the Christ, the evolutions of consciousness orconscious being aware and man versus the machine.
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I'm coming out with the first artificial machine that looks just like us, wrapped inflesh, killed but cannot be killed.
Can you imagine that H.G.
Wells, born in the Iron Age in the 40s,
He saw a metal robot, an old metal clankety clank, and everybody was doing that in StarWars.
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They were doing it in Star Trek and Lost in Space.
Everywhere you saw science fiction, there was nothing but these old metal robots.
But me, growing in the digital age, I saw artificial intelligence looking like us, wrappedin flesh, killed but cannot be killed, time traveling.
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Because when you look at the beginning of the Terminator, it's telling you how themachines in the future are trying to oppress man.
And they know that a baby is going to be born, a savior, to leave man to God's childrenthat's going to destroy them.
And they know that the lady who's destined to have that baby is Sarah Connor.
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And Sarah Connor doesn't even know what's going on, don't know that she's chosen.
to fulfill destiny in such a big way.
But anyway, the Terminator time travels to the past to kill her so the baby will not beborn.
And Kyle Reese, one of the rebels fighting machines, he hears the same prophecy from youruncle's prophecy and he time travel to save her.
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And they both land naked without shame.
Calrissian shame because he's a living child of God with a soul, but the machine doesn'tknow anything about that.
So he has no shame.
So he lands naked and he's walking naked around until someone tells him to go put on someclothes.
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Sophia, can you walk us back a little bit?
I always like to think about what the timeline is when a creative first gets interested increativity.
So in thinking about the timeline and what you just shared, so 1977, you see Star Wars,and I'm sorry, anyone who hasn't seen that movie, we kind of ruined it for you.
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There are some spoilers there.
When you talk to me about
seeing that movie and when you sat down to actually write your first book.
Yeah, in my first script, I wrote a script in a book called The Third Eye, Matrix, andTerminator.
It's called that because the third eye is because on Earth we have two eyes.
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But in the universe, the all-knowing, all-seeing eye of God is the third eye.
And the matrix is the woman's womb, our stargate, our pool to bring baby into this earthlydomain.
The difference between a man and woman is not the vagina and the penis.
It is the matrix, it's the womb.
A woman can have a baby and a man will never ever have a baby.
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He will never have any breast milk.
He will never have a feeding tube called the imbibical cord that takes nine months or 36weeks for that baby to be born.
So Dr.
Frankenstein has lied to the whole entire world.
in Terminator,
end time revelations because, and revelations in the Bible, terminator or terminate meansthe end.
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And it's talking about a story, an end time story that the Christ consciousness is goingto be born again of a woman and he's coming back.
But he's coming back because in the future, these machines are going to be threatening.
They're going to be oppressive.
They're going to be deadly.
And so when I read that in Revelations, I didn't read the story that I'm speaking on.
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I wrote that story.
But Revelations says that Christ is coming back.
And of course, when you read the Matrix and the Terminator or you see the films or youread the book or the script, you're seeing the actual science fiction story, not just on
the screen, but when you read the books, you get all the details because the movie is onlyno more than two hours.
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Just a small
many thanks from the books.
Okay, so when you are in grade school, I remember in listening to some interviews that youdid that you talked about how you had a teacher who just taught you to write, you and your
classmates.
Can you talk to me about some of the skills that you learned from that?
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So he told us that our imagination can go any and everywhere.
There's nothing that you cannot create.
He just gave us the tools on how you start with a beginning, a middle, and an ending.
That's how you begin to write.
You have to have a beginning.
You have to have a middle part of the story, and you got to have the ending.
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I teach people how to write.
I teach people how to do screenplays because I'm also a screenwriter.
So many students come to me for me to teach them many, skills.
And it's very easy to write once you've learned the how, the what, the when, the where,all of these five things that you need to know when you answer the five things, you know
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how to write a story.
And you slide, like I said, with the beginning, the middle, and the ending.
So up until you went to school in California and wrote that initial screenplay, what weresome of the stories that you were writing between them?
I wrote a lot of stories.
In fact, this guy, he's a friend of mine, he's from a military, his name is Art Moosby.
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He used to read a lot of my work.
uh He was stationed at Heal Air Force Base.
And I was writing a story, Science Switching, called The Beast Among Us, which he lovesthat when the gods walk the earth, soulless, meaning born without a soul, a machine, how
machines are born soulless.
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This is some of the work that has never, some of it's been published, I have so much thathas never ever been published.
It's mind boggling.
But when I started writing, I was just writing, writing, writing, writing.
So I wrote a lot of stuff and he was just blown away by my writing.
So was the studios.
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They had never seen prolific writing, but I had been writing since I was 11 years old ingrade school with a professional writer.
So a professional teacher, writer.
So by the time I got into college, I was already a super professional writer.
So that blew them away.
When they saw my first screenplay, they were like, my God, are you writing anything else?
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And I said, yes.
And they said, what?
I said, a book.
They said, can we have that book?
Because when you go into my third eye book, you will see the actual letters from thestudio heads.
and how crazy they are going on about my work.
And Andy and Larry Wilczewski wanted to do comic books.
I'm afraid you should tell me about, because I mean, we're talking about storytelling andI always think about, okay, so we have our listeners who are going to listen to this.
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And I guess what I'm trying to get to is I want to know what you were feeling when youfirst sat down to write the Third Eye Matrix.
Did you feel that it was going to be special?
Talk to me about when you sat down and you were writing it.
How are you feeling?
Tell me that story.
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No one knows what their work is going to do and how the effect it's going to have on thepopulation, all the people, all the art world.
When I was writing, you got to realize I first began when I was 11 years old.
So doing something new at 11 years old is inspiring.
So I was already sold at 11, just like Venus and Serena doing tennis and grade school.
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Michael Jordan.
playing basketball in grade school, but Tiger Woods playing golf at three years old, eightyears old.
That is the most exciting time.
We didn't know that we would become masters.
We didn't know that we would become famous and wealthy and all of this and known aroundthe entire world.
No one thinks that.
You just create.
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That's all you do.
You don't think about, hey, I'm gonna be famous.
I'm gonna be wealthy.
I'm gonna write this because I wanna be rich.
Nobody thinks like that.
You just love something.
And you do it.
And if it's inspiring and it makes you feel good, you just continue to do what you do.
Look, Tom Brady playing football way in the sporties because, and he practiced afterpractice because he loved it.
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You don't become an iconic figure unless you love what you're doing.
And writing was just wonderful.
It was a wonderful feeling.
I'm glad I got it when I was younger because when you start coming into something whenyou're older, there's a lot of influences, a lot of pressure.
There's a lot of things that does not give you the same feedback or feeling when you weredoing something when you're in grade school.
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I also played tennis.
You did.
You're so, you're definitely multi-talented.
yeah, I was very excellent sports because my father, my father is a very famous singer andhe was very prolific in sports.
And I was also, and he had a choice.
He could have, he could have played baseball and he decided to go into music.
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I was playing basketball.
I won VIP.
I won the presidential award because I was actually winning volleyball and all the sportstrack.
I won a championship in tennis.
When I got into college, I played tennis with the boys because that's how phenomenal I wasbecause I'd been playing it since grade school.
See, when you start out early with something, it makes a whole nother different being outof you.
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Go back and look at all of them that started out early and what they became, and they willtell you, it's just a wonderful feeling when you're doing something when you were a kid.
So if you want somebody to excel, you want somebody to be phenomenal,
then start them out at an early age.
If you want them to be the greatest chess player in the world, hey, put them at thechessboard at three years old, the greatest AI computer technician.
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Put them on the computer as a baby.
them a tablet and watch your child explode.
The brain is a very phenomenal tool.
It's one of the greatest tools in the world.
And you never know what you're going to get until you start.
your child on his first journey of wonderment.
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Well, Sophia, can you tell us a bit about how your writing style has evolved over theyears?
tell you, when I was in school, I had some very famous teachers, Max Siegel, formerjournalist with the New York Times, Emil Capuglia, author, essay critic, Big Apple
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playwright, Paul Cherry.
So God gave me a famous journalist, he gave me a famous playwright, he gave me a famousauthor of books and so forth.
And it was very phenomenal because
They saw that I already had this phenomenal gift.
Can you believe?
But I didn't even know it until they told me some of them.
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And Max Siegel, a famous journalist and one of my teachers, he read my book when it firstcame out and he was just blown away.
And I'll never forget when we first was taking his journalist classes and he told us totake out some paper and he said, I want to see what you guys can do.
and we all wrote something and I'm gonna make this story real short.
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And the next day I was talking, the bill hadn't rung yet and he had my paper in his hand,he came up to me and he said, you don't have to write ever again in my class.
And he put my paper on the desk and all of us got quiet and we were all like, what?
And I was like, what did I do?
Did I do something wrong?
And then when he got to the front of the class and he, and I said, why, what happened?
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He said,
He said, you already a writer and there's nothing I can teach you.
That was the most phenomenal thing I had ever heard from a teacher.
How did that make you feel?
In front of the whole classroom, I was like elated.
I was blown away because I'm thinking I did something wrong.
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And he was, let me tell you, he told the absolute truth.
Every day after that, he would discuss the Wall Street Journal with me and teaching meabout socks and everything.
And I was so eager to learn everything he had to teach.
And he would say, don't worry, Sophia.
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You're going to be rich and famous.
So Sophia, I do have a clarifying question.
What do you understand about writing that the rest of us don't quite get?
Writing is going into other worlds.
You see other worlds, other possibilities.
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And that's what writing was for me, because I was kind of like a loner kind of, and abookworm, because a lot of times I would just pick up magazines, books, newspaper,
whatever was laying around, and I would start reading.
And all of my little friends, would be, come on, put the book down, stop reading, come on.
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I was just...
love to read.
And I was already writing when I was actually three years old.
I had knowledge.
I was mentored by the Illuminati, not the 13 families, but the Rosicrucians, which are theChrist branch.
They're called the Rose, R-O-S-E, the Rose.
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I was mentored by them by seven, eight, and nine years old.
I just had a lot of knowledge.
I was writing for my grandmother because I'm Cherokee and Portuguese on both my mother andfather's side.
And my grandmother did not know how to write and my grandmother couldn't speak anyEnglish.
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She had a hard time speaking English.
She came off of the Indian reservation from Missouri.
So I was writing for her and you cannot fool her.
I had to read it back to her.
So she'll know that I was actually writing what she was saying.
So I didn't even realize I was so conscious.
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And one time I scared my grandmother because it was a, it was, she fed me somethingbecause it was storming really bad and she could not go to the store to buy me any milk.
But I didn't even know I was a baby.
And she got scared when I brought it up because I asked her, what did you feed me?
And I described it and she was so terrified.
She said,
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How could you know that?
She said, you were just a little infant, a little baby laying on the bed.
But I didn't even know that.
I was just fully conscious.
I was aware of the storm on the outside.
I saw the darkness.
There was no lights on because the storm was so bad it took out the electricity and stuff.
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And my grandmother pacing back and worried about what she was going to feed me.
So I've had lifetimes of experiences that were amazing and many people and teachers thatcan attest to this.
You know, they say that some people, they're old souls.
uh And I think I kind of believe that we all come into the world with, at different levelsof our enlightenment, if you will.
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Some of us come right in, we're fresh, and some of us just have come several times, and weknow what we want to achieve in this lifetime.
Sounds like you've been here a few times.
I feel like I've been here a lot of times, just a few times.
I was with Muhammad Ali and engaged to marry him from 1980 to 83.
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I was with him and he was way older because as you can see, one of his wives was 17 yearsold when he married her, the one named Kalia.
oh Her name was Boyd, Belinda Boyd, but they call her Kalia.
uh And so he was much older, but he was an old ancient soul.
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And he taught me a lot.
He was just incredible.
I can't even begin to tell people because I am so prolific in law that I beat several lawfirms.
One law firm had 110 attorneys.
This guy told me skip Belcher when he researched the law firm.
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And he said he was just amazed that they could not beat me and law.
And I felt like
not just that me studying law, but I knew law that I had never even studied before.
I did a trademark case of my own and won and I had never studied trademark law ever.
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I won the lawsuit in California, which they're lying about on the internet because myattorney, Michael Stoller entered in the films and under the judges 50 page ruling, she
said I would win the lawsuit.
All I had to do is put in the films was the films.
And my books and my script was one in the same.
They were all one in the same.
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But I knew the law, and it was just inside of me.
I can't explain it to you, so reincarnation must be real.
It must be true.
Because I am a witness.
I'm a living person who has achieved monumental things.
There was no explanation as that's possible.
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I knew federal procedure and the federal courts.
The law just comes out of me.
They would always, my fans and people who viewed me speaking, they say, my God, we couldtell she wrote The Matrix and The Terminator because when she's speaking, it's coming out
of her.
Well, this brings us back to fighting for your rights.
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You can't steal something that belongs to someone.
If the DeLorean is in your yard and you go to the DMV, it has your name on it.
Someone just stole your car and made a million dollars off of it.
They don't own the DeLorean.
The money is what you go to court to get back.
We go to court for damages.
We don't go to court to get our houses back.
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The deed is in our name or it's not in your name.
You don't go to court to get your television back.
The receipt is in your, you know, and yours because you bought it.
And I try to tell people to stop using that because no one can steal what belongs toanother, but they can steal your money, which is called damages.
And I didn't fight for any rights.
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I went in there and got my money back because that's what they took.
Now all this stuff and ignorance on the internet is to confuse people so they cannot fightfor their rights.
I'm here to set the record straight.
that no one can steal your rights or steal what belongs to you, but they can make moneyoff of what belongs to you.
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And when we go to court, it is called damages.
That is what I sued for.
I didn't sue to get a FIM credit.
Once something goes into the court system and you win and the judge rules in your favor,whether it's two judges rule, which is in my case, two judges, the federal judge and the
master judge rule in my favor,
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that the third eye matrix in Terminator and the films are one and the same.
And of course it belongs to me and the damages are mine.
$4.11 billion.
And I had three certified public accountants called CPAs.
I had an Italian one, Japanese that flew in, one from California and a black lady fromUtah to validate
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the money that was owed to me.
And it was a piece of cake to go in there and to take that money from them.
Warner Brothers had a lien of almost, well it was $316,000 and some change, which they oweme that money right now.
And they are so embarrassed because I beat all of their attorneys.
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They committed a criminal act because anytime you take any
copyrighted or trademarked work and you counterfeit it, that is a criminal act.
The FBI told me what they committed was a criminal act.
And at some point in time, they're going to come and arrest them and take every Terminatorand every Matrix product that was ever made.
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They're going to confiscate it.
And I would be paid restitution because this is their job.
But what happened is everybody knows
that people on a certain level or millions and billions of dollars pay people, paysenators, pay politicians to stay out of jail.
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That is why justice is taking so long, but do not give up on God because God comes whenyou least expect it.
So this is what they did to me.
They counterfeited copyrighted and trademarked work.
And those copyrights and trademarks
are in my name.
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And all this is in the courts.
It can be validated by two federal judges, Judge Evelyn J.
First, F-U-R-S-E, and also Judge D-E-E Benson.
As we close out this interview, I guess one of things I'm curious about is, given allthat's happened in your life, if you could go back and give advice to, your 25-year-old
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self, what kind of advice would you give yourself?
know, there is no advice that I would give myself because everything turned outwonderfully for me because of my beliefs in God, my belief in truth, my beliefs in the
justice system.
Everything came out wonderful for me.
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So look, I'm happy.
Look, God is the answer.
And believing in God is what brought me to justice.
It's not about film credit.
It is about the truth and the truth is validated through the courts.
And that is what goes into the history book, not film credits.
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They make all kinds of deals, movie people.
So forget about the film credits people look at the history book and look at the courts.
That's where history is made.
So if I had to do it all over again, there's no advice I would give myself.
It all came out the way it was supposed to come out.
Thank you, that's beautiful.
So I was going to ask about what practice that you have or what do you do that you creditfor your continued success?
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And I think I have a sense of what you're going to say, but I'm going to ask anyway.
So if you had to reflect and to think about what is it that you do over and over againthat really
really contributes to success, what would it be?
What I believe that continues to my success is my faith in God and being in obedience toGod.
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No, it really is because I've made some mistakes by not listening to God.
Well, one time I almost lost my life because I did not listen.
And I think people should listen because that can cost you your life.
And I've always been guided by God as a kid.
And I've always listened.
And when I listen, I'm very, very successful.
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And when I do not listen, that's when I can make some of the most terrible mistakes.
So I think it's very, very important that people will want to be successful, that youshould take time and listen.
You don't have to do what other people are telling you, but you never know what someone isgoing to tell you that's going to elevate or make changes in your life.
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So I think the most important thing is listening, being quiet and listening.
How do
you listen and how does it come to you?
Is it when you are in prayer?
Does it come suddenly?
Is it come in the morning when you first wake up?
When do know God is talking to you versus when someone is just yapping away?
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It's just like an inspiration.
It's like a nudge.
Like, like your sense or your spirit tells you don't do that.
Or it says, go do this.
And you're like, well, I don't see anything wrong.
I don't sense anything.
And that's sometimes that's when we don't listen.
And then when I do listen, I am rewarded.
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I'm like, oh my God, I'm so happy I listen because you don't see what's in the back.
You can only see a little bit in the front and you say, well, why don't my spirit istelling me, don't go over there, don't do this.
And next thing you know, you go over there and there's some wasses or bees hiding in thebush and then you get bitten and you're like, my God, I would have never known those bees
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were there if I had a listen, you know, cause I would have seen them later on.
But that's sometime you pay the price because you do not listen.
And then when you do listen, you get rewarded.
You say, my God, I'm so glad I listened to my spirit today because blood, water andspirit, we have a spirit that guides us and it may be a hunch.
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It may be a feeling.
It may be a feeling of dread.
It may be a feeling of happiness or a spark or something that entices you to or not to.
So that's what I'm guided by.
that.
my gosh, Sophia, I feel the same way.
It took me a while and the reason why I asked is because I was like, okay, so maybe wekind of have the same thing going on because I can tell when something's a must do.
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There are some times where it's not a suggestion at all.
I know very clearly that this is the thing I need to act.
I need to do this thing right now.
And then sometimes it's like a nudge.
It's like,
maybe I should go get a glass of water.
I know it'll be something as simple as getting a glass of water, but getting a glass ofwater will then lead to something else.
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Or I shouldn't go down this road.
Let me take a left.
And taking a left will save me probably 30 minutes on my route.
It's just, it's so interesting how it works and how the goodness comes in and theguidance.
really pay attention to that voice and you have to pay attention to Spirit.
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Because I remember when I was in line waiting and Spirit told me to take the right lane,know, to move out of that lane and go to the right.
And I said, well, there's nothing wrong up here.
And oh my God, they were just sitting there for a while and the other one was gone in theright lane.
And I said, oh my God, I should have listened.
Because Spirit is always telling you
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And it seems so simple because you think, well, why is Spirit telling me that?
I don't see anything wrong.
And that's where you're hard headed.
That's where I've gotten hard headed in my faith.
So we're, none of us are perfect.
We all fall short of the glory of God.
We all make mistakes, but you must try to listen to the Spirit when it's telling yousomething, because it's telling you something that's going to help you and elevate you.
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And like I told you, I could have lost my life by not listening.
So it's important.
Everyone who's listening to me, it is important.
Pay attention.
Yeah.
Oh gosh, Sophia, this was really wonderful.
I completely love talking with you.
Thank you.
You're welcome and I am so glad you guys had me on and I love this art journey.
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All right, that's all that I have for you today.
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I can't wait to see you on the next episode.
Bye.