July 31, 2025 • 38 mins
Ever wonder what a full week in the life of a professional photographer really looks like? I'm pulling back the curtain and taking you with me through a jam-packed week of creative hustle and real-life moments. From juggling four different photoshoots centered on Black Joy to managing client proposals and sneaking in family time, this episode is a raw, honest look at the daily dance of a working artist.
I’m sharing it all—the early morning meditations, the last-minute changes, the on-set surprises, and the quiet moments of reflection that keep everything grounded. This isn’t about a picture-perfect schedule; it’s about the messy, beautiful reality of building a creative career, one day at a time. Join me for a different kind of episode where you’ll hear what it truly takes to get the work done while keeping your creative soul nourished.
Chapters
00:00 - A Week in the Life of a Creative
03:55 - Monday Morning: Prepping for a Day of Shoots
06:17 - Monday Evening: A Full Day's Recap
08:59 - Tuesday Morning: Finding the Shot in a South Side Church
11:29 - Tuesday Evening: Unpacking an Inspirational Day
16:13 - Wednesday Morning: Best-Laid Plans
20:43 - Wednesday Evening: When the Day Goes Sideways
22:49 - Thursday Morning: An Easier Day
25:05 - Thursday Evening: Admin, Selects, and a Surprise Race
29:25 - Friday Morning: Getting It All Done
34:07 - Friday Evening: The Week’s Wrap-Up
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(00:00):
Welcome to This Is How We Create, a show that digs deeper into the creative life ofcontemporary artists of color.
Discover what feeds their creativity and how they found or are finding their artisticvoice.
Through these intimate and candid conversations, you'll gain insights into the lives ofcreative professionals of color that are hard to find anywhere else.
(00:22):
Hello, friend.
How are you?
My name is Martine Severn and welcome back to This Is How We Create.
In this week's episode, it's going to be a little bit different because we are going to doa week in the life of a creative.
We have not done this format before, but I've been listening to a few podcasts where thehosts do this and I'm always really intrigued.
(00:49):
That's why I thought we would try it out.
So what is this week in the life thing?
Essentially, it's where a creative, in this case me,
is going to tell you about what's going to happen in my week.
And I'll come in to talk with you in the morning with the gravelly morning voice.
I apologize in advance.
(01:11):
And I'll tell you about what I have on tap for the morning.
And then in the evening, I will come back in to tell you to see um whether or not I'veactually done everything I set out to do.
It is currently 4.37.
on a Sunday afternoon.
I'm doing this now because it's the little bit of time I have before the onslaught ofprepping for the week comes.
(01:39):
I am flying kind of bit solo, but my mom is around to help.
My hubby is in Michigan with our little dog, taking care of some family stuff.
So we're working on a project and he's out supervising it.
So I will be missing him.
and I'll be missing our little dog, Percy.
(02:00):
That said, the week is going to be a really great one.
And I always like to take just 20 minutes before the week starts to go over what I set outto do and to write down anything that might be on my mind.
And in this case, the reason why I'm coming here around 4.30 something is because thisweek I have not one, not two, not three.
(02:26):
but four photo shoots in one week.
And there four different photo shoots as such.
I need to have my wits about me.
So that's the planning.
And because it's a nice, sexy week, because every day I'm doing something different, Ithought I would, this is a great opportunity to do a week in the life.
(02:48):
But this is fun.
So you get to see a different side of me than what you see on the podcast with interviews.
So for this week, my agent and I had a phone call with a client on Friday.
Tomorrow, we are finalizing the proposal that's to go out to the client.
(03:10):
So we'll be working on that.
I have several shoots, as I mentioned.
The shoots are going to be focusing around Black Joy.
After I get off the podcast with you is to just prep and make sure.
All of my batteries are charged, that my gear is set and I'm ready for my photo shoot.
(03:30):
And I need to double check to make sure that I have enough gas in the car.
So tomorrow morning I'm not left.
Put gas in the car very last minute.
I like to make sure everything is ready, including my clothes, putting it out.
That's it for now.
I will be chatting with you tomorrow morning.
So until, I'll see you soon.
(03:55):
Good Monday morning to you.
It is 6.45 and I had a little bit of time to meditate this morning.
And the next thing up is to stretch and then wake up my son so that we could havebreakfast and head off to school.
(04:18):
Well, I won't be heading off to school.
My mom will be taking him to school.
I have to pick up my rentals for this photo shoot that we are having and make sure that Ihave everything that I need.
That is, last night I forgot to print out my shot list so I need to go and do that reallyquickly so that we are going to get everything that we need.
(04:43):
All the shots and I remind myself that of all that I need to do over breakfast, we arephotographing
downtown in Chicago, we're photographing a barbershop in the morning to talk about Blackjoy and the Black experience.
So the barbershop is in the morning.
Then I get a little bit of a break where I get to come home, have lunch and work ongetting some stuff over to my agent.
(05:14):
But maybe I'll have time this morning to do that as well.
From there, I go back out
I get to meet up with my editor around, gosh, think we're meeting around 3 15, when that'sgoing to be also downtown.
And I have another meeting in the evening, just a phone call to go over some details for ashoot that we're having on Wednesday.
(05:42):
That's it.
I'm going to sign off and go.
stretch a little bit and wake up the little boy so that we could have breakfast.
That's all that I have planned for today.
And I will plan on talking to you later on to tell you what I've done and how my dealwent.
(06:05):
Talk soon.
Bye.
Hi there.
Oh boy, what a day it was.
It is Monday night and 9 44 p.m.
I wanted to tell you a little bit about how today went before I head to bed.
The goal today is to hit the sack by 1030 and get up early tomorrow morning for anotherbig day.
(06:34):
So this morning I mentioned that I was going to meditate, I was going to stretch and startbreakfast for my son and I want to tell you I did all of that.
Normally
It's not always a given that I will actually stretch, but I know that when I do, I feel sogood in my body.
(06:56):
So I'm glad I did that.
So after I got everything ready, I did head over to pick up my rentals and then went overto the photo shoot.
It went really, really well.
I was photographing in a barber shop.
(07:16):
which was really fun and I accidentally on purpose thank you for the universe found abarber who's now going to do my hair as well as my son's for a long time I've been looking
for a black barber so I am glad that I was able to find it through this these twogentlemen I met today at our photo shoot it turns out that I didn't have to create a
(07:40):
proposal or treatment for the job that I'm bidding for
my agent and I chatted and all we did was simply send over some images to show that Iwould be able to do the job.
And then I had my second photo shoot in the afternoon.
So it was just a back to back to back day.
(08:03):
And I'm really glad that, ah I'm tired, but I'm really glad that everything went well.
The only thing I didn't squeeze in was a
Workout but in looking at my My iWatch I'm I'm all good I've done over 10,000 stepswalking all around Chicago So I'm not gonna be mad that I didn't do a workout today all
(08:32):
right so before Before going to bed I just want to let you know that I prepped fortomorrow.
I have my bag and everything ready so
Wish me luck, wish me a good night's sleep, and I'll touch base with you tomorrow to talkabout what I have on deck for Tuesday.
(08:54):
Okay, see you tomorrow.
Hello, it is Tuesday morning and it is, I'm just hearing the heat come on.
It's Tuesday morning and it's 5.30 a.m.
(09:17):
I woke up a little bit early so that I can do all of my morning rituals.
That is to meditate, stretch, and start getting ready for the family.
This morning I needed to do a little bit of administrative work because I didn't get achance to do that yesterday on Monday.
(09:41):
I'm gonna go ahead and do that and then wake up the little guy around 6.45 so that we getready for the day.
Over breakfast, I will go over my shot list and print anything that I didn't print out ormake sure that I have everything set for the photo shoot that we have today.
(10:06):
Today we're going to be in a church.
oh
on the south side of Chicago.
I think we're supposed to be there around one o'clock.
And so I'm having my assistant come over to meet me normally on Tuesdays.
We have like a heavy duty administrative day.
We tag team on all the things that we need to work on.
(10:28):
Today she's going to be my assistant in terms of helping me on set.
think I have everything and I want to double check that my, all my grip, I should say allof my camera batteries have fully charged and I want to be sure that I charge everything
because we have to load quite a bit of equipment in my little truck to make it out to thesouth side.
(10:55):
Once we come back, it will be all about home and family time.
Well that's it.
I hope to chat with you later on.
I'll give you an update as to how the day went.
Bye.
Good evening.
How are you?
Okay, so it is Tuesday and we are getting this baby in early.
(11:22):
It's 8.35.
I've just put my son down to bed and hmm.
I'm getting this in because tomorrow again is a long day.
But first before talking about tomorrow, let me tell you what happened today.
So today, as you remember, I had the morning free.
(11:44):
And in the afternoon, I had another photo shoot.
So this whole week is about portfolio building.
It's not about having client work per se, but it's
doing some photo shoots to fill some gaps that there are in my portfolio.
(12:04):
The shoots that we're doing is because one, I want to create photographs around the blackexperience, around black choice, so we've been doing that today, this whole week as I
mentioned.
And secondly, I'm photographing things in such a way that will make me stronger for futurework.
(12:25):
that I hope to get.
So today I listed some things I wanted to do.
I meditated, I stretched, and I hung out with my son in the morning.
The morning was kind of cool because I took the morning to help out at a small businessthat my husband has.
And so I just went into the office over there.
(12:48):
So I did that until about 11 o'clock.
Once I got home, I then went over
Everything that I had set out for my afternoon shoot, I met up with my assistant, Jan, andthen she and I, and we drove to the south side where I'm photographing a church
(13:11):
experience, a Baptist church experience.
And so that's what I did.
It was tricky, but it was also a lot of fun and really inspirational.
There was this really kind pastor who created, or at least he gave us these sermonsbecause we wanted to photograph people in the process of enjoying church.
(13:41):
And the pastor gave these sermons that were so inspirational.
And one of the things he talked about is, uh so this was a Baptist church.
And I'm not Baptist, I was raised Catholic.
And essentially he talked about finding joy in life and not letting the world weigh youdown and also not hiding your gifts and not putting your, hiding your gifts under a
(14:09):
bushel.
But to celebrate your life and to celebrate all that you've been given and what makes youspecial and to celebrate the joy that is in your life.
which I found to be really inspirational.
So once we did that, we headed back oh in my little van.
(14:31):
We dropped off my editor, who was there helping, and she was just really amazing.
She was telling us stories about working with different creatives when she was working ata magazine.
Stories of Karl Lagerfeld meeting David.
Bowie of doing photo shoots with Sandra Bullock.
(14:56):
It was really, it was a lot of fun to hear her talk about the good old days.
So once I came home, I hung out with the family and made dinner and then now hang out withmy son, helped with homework.
And now since it's edging towards nine o'clock, I am going to wind it down.
(15:21):
And I'll see you tomorrow when we talk about what's happening on Wednesday.
Tomorrow is going to be a fun one.
It's an early start.
We have to be on location by eight o'clock.
And so it should be a really good day.
And this is a photo shoot that I've been trying to get scheduled since July.
(15:43):
And so we finally got all of the talent and the whole team together.
That's it for now.
I am going to...
go get my beauty sleep but first I have to make sure that my bag is in order and to makesure that um I have everything packed and ready to go.
That's it.
Today was a good day.
(16:05):
And I hope that tomorrow is going to be a good day too.
Talk to you soon.
Bye!
Hello, hello, it's Wednesday.
We're following the same routine of meditating stretch.
I meditated before jumping on to this conversation with you.
(16:25):
um I'll stretch afterwards.
And I want to say a little bit about the stretch that I do and why I do all thestretching.
It's because I...
get really tight, my muscles get tight and I found this seven minute stretch.
It's a morning flexibility stretch that I do every day and whatever I do it just makes mefeel so long and it makes me feel so good.
(16:49):
So hopefully I'll get to do that.
We have to talk about the time.
It is 5.45.
I slept in a little bit.
There's quite a bit of things that I want to make sure that I get ready.
I have to leave the house at seven o'clock in order to pack the car and make it on time tothis photo shoot.
(17:13):
We have to be on set by eight and it's going to take me about 30 minutes to get there.
So that means if I leave around.
around 7.
I think I should leave probably around 7.10.
I should get there around 7.40 which gives me plenty of time to find a nice parking spotand unpack everything.
(17:40):
Today's photo shoot is going to be about these two women.
m They are actually I'm not sure they identify as women so these two talent
who are going to be hanging out and doing things around the apartment that we've rented onthe South Side.
I'm going back to the South Side of Chicago.
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So they are going to be doing yoga, hanging out with each other.
Essentially, we want to capture friendship between two people.
So we'll see how that goes.
We have a full team of Jen, my assistant, who was with me yesterday on the photo shoot.
for the church.
(18:24):
We're going to have Ray who does some of the production and editing of the podcast.
And then I have another editor who's going to, somebody who's going to help me on artdirector, should say, who's going to be in on this photo shoot.
So I'm looking forward to it.
I can't wait.
It's a tight morning, so I'm going to beg off and go do the things so that I can get outof the house on time.
(18:52):
That's it for now.
I'll talk to you later.
Bye.
Good evening to you.
I'm coming to you at 10 22 on Wednesday evening.
What a day.
You know how they say the best lead plans of Meissenmann.
(19:13):
This was that day.
Goodness gracious.
Let me tell you how it went down.
I managed to wake up on time.
And the secret is that I never wanna wake up on time, mainly because I love to sleep.
So I left on time to head out to my photo shoot and several things happened.
(19:39):
There was a misprint in the call information.
And I noticed that when I put the address into the GPS,
This is a location that I had photographed at before so I knew where it was and when I putthe address in the GPS.
It was telling me that it was 54 minutes away when I knew that it was supposed to be aboutmaybe 30 minutes away so right away I knew something was wrong.
(20:04):
My assistant was running late so she would get there an hour after we were meant to bethere.
The woman from whom we were renting the space
said she couldn't get there till 9 and the whole team was supposed to be on location at 8.
I was running late because I kept making wrong turns for some reason the GPS sent me adifferent way because there was just so much traffic in the morning.
(20:31):
I had enough time to unload and everybody else showed up a few minutes later.
The owner actually came around 9.
We loaded in.
We did the photo shoot.
which was really great.
We were working in tight spaces, so there was a little bit of jiu-jitsu and kind of likeyoga photography, you where you have to get into weird angles.
(20:54):
Regardless, it was a lot of fun.
We did a lot of different scenes.
It was a heavy lift.
We worked very hard for the time that we had for the location rental.
The two talent that we had put on some Beyonce, and so a good time was had by all.
We ended up getting sweet greens, is for those of you who don't have sweet green near you,fast healthy food.
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Essentially it's a bowl and salad fast food restaurant.
And it was just so delicious.
I think I got something with lots of kale and spinach in it.
So I felt really good.
The talent was really great and they had such great chemistry.
They did yoga.
They hugged.
out, they made smoothies, and then they worked together.
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Now we're back and I'm completely knackered.
But that's to be expected because it was a long day.
We ended up returning all of my rentals prior to coming home.
And once I came home, thank goodness my mom was home and she made dinner, which I'm reallyappreciative of.
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And so it means that all was good.
It was an easy night and I just completely collapsed on the couch and fell asleep.
I took a little nap and then I realized, my goodness, I have to do a recap for you.
So here is my recap.
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Tomorrow I get to sleep in and do not have to wake up before, gosh, I don't have to wakeup before seven.
I'm looking forward to it.
tomorrow will be Thursday.
Two more days until the week is over.
So night.
(22:49):
Hello, good morning.
Oh, my voice feels particularly gravely this morning.
Hold on a second, I'm gonna take a drink of water.
that feels better.
Okay.
(23:10):
I slept well last night.
So I'm ready and excited for today.
It's a little bit after seven o'clock, so I got to sleep in a little bit.
And we are gonna go through the routine again.
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From there, I have an easier day today because I'm not photographing anybody.
I always forget how much being a photographer is an active job and it's a very physicaljob.
and my body feels a little bit tired.
Last night I had to take, took an ibuprofen because I should have taken a hot bath withEpsom salt, but I didn't get a chance to do that.
(23:57):
Today, this morning, I'm heading after getting everyone out the door.
I'm going to be heading to my husband's business to help out at the office to make sure.
that we're meeting some of our numbers and to talk to some of the employees about thethings that we need to do.
From there I get home probably around 11, 11, 3.
(24:21):
I am working with my assistant, Jen, on...
Actually, I'm not sure I'm working with Jen this morning.
I'll have to double check, but essentially today's going to be an administrative day whereI'm going to be reviewing my files and...
doing my selects.
I think I'm going to keep this one short.
I can already hear our upstairs neighbor and her daughter being fussy.
(24:48):
today my son has a race.
He has a cross country race.
So I'm really excited about that.
It's supposed to rain today and I hope that the rain holds off.
Okay.
Gotta go.
Bye.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Good evening.
It is 9 47 and I am here with the evening report.
(25:11):
Today was a lovely day, a lot of surprises.
So this morning I woke up around seven o'clock.
My mother helped out by letting me sleep in just a little bit because I have to say I wasreally tired.
Sadly, I didn't do my morning routine of the meditation, the stretching, just because I tohit the ground running.
(25:33):
After hanging out with my son, he headed off to school and I went to my husband's job tothe office and helped out there until around 11.
Once I got home around 11.30 and from there what I did is I downloaded all, well uploadedif you will, I backed up all of my files from the last few days from Monday, Tuesday, as
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well as Wednesday.
So I backed up all those files and I started doing the selects for each of the differentphoto shoots that we did.
So I started with the selects for the church and the selects for the two talent that weredoing yoga and that were making the smoothie.
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I worked on those selects and then I also did a little bit of admin work andpre-production work for some photo shoots that we have coming up.
later on this month.
We did have to leave shortly after I got home, not so shortly, essentially by 2 45 we hadto leave because my son, as I mentioned this morning, he has his cross country race.
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And you know, the thing is that it was the whole week was just really beautiful.
And on the day this boy is going to be outside doing a race, it is
cold and it has that heaviness in the air that that heaviness that tells you there's goingto be rain.
Now if ants are butts about it but thankfully we were there watched him run and do all ofthat all of the the team building exercises that his little team of the seven boys
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and five girls or so who were part of the cross country team.
He ran his race, which is a one mile route around a high school not too far from ourhouse.
And as he was finishing the race, it started raining.
Oh, goodness, I brought an umbrella and my umbrella was going this way and that and thewind was blowing us this way and that.
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And not only did he run a mile, but our car was parked.
a mile from where the race was.
So there was a lot of walking, but the highlight of the day is that we afterwards, afterthe race, we went to get some pizza at his favorite pizza place in Chicago, not Chicago
deep dish pizza.
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We liked the Napolitan pizzas ourselves, thin crust all the way.
And so we went and had dinner there.
We came home after coming home.
I just tidied up a little bit and
did my to-do list for the next morning and just made sure that that I had a really goodgame plan for Friday because Friday, my goodness, Friday's tomorrow.
(28:32):
oh So Friday is going to be my official opportunity to get things done and it's the lastday of the week.
So I'm really pleased that today I haven't had to do as much work.
have to say like I've had to be family facing and obligation facing.
So
not as much hands-on work that had to be done.
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So I think, you know, I worked from 11.30 until about 2.45, a short workday, but I willmake up for it tomorrow morning and I'll make up for it over the weekend.
So that's it.
I'm going to sleep and hopefully tomorrow I'll get a chance to do my regular stretch andmeditation.
(29:20):
I'll see you tomorrow, goodnight.
Good morning, it's Friday and it is 6, 15 a.m.
I got up this morning and I did my meditation.
I've been using Headspace for a while for my guided meditations and usually I give myself,I think 15 minutes and I've been using a teacher in Headspace called Dora and I love her
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voice.
She's obviously black and
I just love listening to her.
So today's gonna be a really easy peasy one.
Once I get my son out of the house and off to school, I'm gonna head to the office around745 to help the family business out.
When I get there, it's probably gonna be around maybe, maybe 815 and we're in the middleof doing performance reviews right now.
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So I'm going to talk with the managers about the performance of the team.
A lot of the team members, they've had trainings to do on specific safety aspects of thejob.
So today I'll spend some time making sure everyone has completed that training.
From there, I come back home.
And when I come home, usually on the way I'm listening to music, now I'm really at theSilke, in particular, Patrice Roberts.
(30:45):
So I like to listen to Patrice Roberts when I'm in the car.
I get back home around 1130.
At that point, I sit down and meet with my assistant Jen to work on some admin tasks thatwe are going to have a bit coming up for next week.
You have to put images for those bids and write copy as well.
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have some podcast episodes.
We have to follow up with guests on those episodes.
There's another personal project I'm doing that needs to be finished.
Around the middle of the day, I head off to see my personal trainer around 1 p.m.
And I've been working with him for about two years now.
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So I enjoy going in, lifting, feeling strong.
And we usually end our training sessions with me pushing a sled across the gym.
I'm exhausted at the end, but it feels really good.
I'll return home and hang out with Jen again, my assistant.
and then we will review the week to make sure that we have a good grasp on what's comingahead and that we have plans in place so that I don't feel bereft sometimes when I don't
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plan.
I just feel frustrated so I just try to avoid that as much as possible.
ah My husband's coming home today with our dog, Percy, so I'm excited about that.
That is it, my friends.
I'm gonna go ahead and start the day.
because I still need to do my stretch and hit the shower to get ready.
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Wish me luck that everything goes as planned.
I hope that it's gonna be just a boring day of getting things done.
No surprises.
That's it for now.
I will check back in with you for tonight's recap.
Bye.
It is Friday.
Hello.
Gosh, I'm so pleased to...
(32:42):
be chatting with you on this Friday.
A lot of things have come back to normal.
I feel like I have more energy.
So let me tell you how the day actually went down.
I did meditate this morning.
Hey, I stretch and my family's back together as I mentioned on Sunday when I did this.
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My husband has been away and
as well as away with our dog.
They've been getting some work done in some super secret family stuff that we have goingdown that I can't talk about.
But they've been away getting some stuff down.
So I'm glad that they're back and it's nice to hang out with my dog.
(33:29):
Who really is, he missed me and I guess I missed him too.
I missed my dog.
Normally when I'm doing the podcast,
He's seated right in my office next to me and keeps me company.
So it's nice to have him back.
It's nice to have the hubby back.
And it's just nice to have the whole family back.
But let me tell you how the day went down.
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It was a boring day, but I like boring days.
So this morning, you know how it went down.
We did the meditation, the stretching, and the family time.
The little guy went off to school.
and I went and helped at the business.
Then I came back around 11.30, chatted with my assistant and we did, we took care of a lotof admin stuff.
(34:20):
That's to be coming up.
And then from there, it was just a matter of taking stock.
That's the word I'm looking for.
Taking stock of what we did in the week and then forecasting to next week, figuring out.
What are some of the things coming up and making sure we have plans in place to addressthose things?
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For example, on Monday evening, I have a board meeting and then right after the boardmeeting, I'm leading a discussion with a panelist for the work that I do as the chair of
the Diversity Committee at American Photographic Artists.
I'm leading a discussion with somebody who does work in
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representation in the photo industry.
So I have to prep for that and make sure that I have my notes and everything that I needfor that day.
Overall, it was a boring day of admin work, of making sure that everything is done.
My son came home, we kind of hung out, just took it easy and had dinner.
(35:29):
My mother made Haitian food, which I love.
I love Haitian food, so was just yummy rice and beans.
I made some salmon to go along with it.
After dinner, we watched the British Bake Off and had this yummy, absolutely deliciousapple pie that I picked up from the grocery store.
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My husband soon came home a little bit around 8.30.
We snuggled with the dog.
I forgot to mention what time it is.
At this point, we are looking at 9.27.
We got to hang out a little bit and now it's time to go to sleep.
I am drinking this really delicious and refreshing glass of bubbles, but I should say notbubbles per se because I gave up drinking.
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Why do you ask that I give up drinking?
Not for any reason other than that it makes me really inflamed and
My body doesn't like it, so I drink sparkling water.
I'm this delicious glass of sparkling water.
And I am stoked to go to sleep because tomorrow is another day that I get to sleep in.
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So I'm looking forward to it.
I did go to the gym.
I mentioned this morning that I was going to go to the gym.
I went to the gym, worked out with my trainer.
It's always good to chat with him.
And he makes me lift heavy things and makes me...
Workout so tomorrow I expect that I will be feeling very sore.
Next week is pretty easy.
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I'm mostly in the office.
We're not going to have a lot of photo shoots, but we are working on some bids and somethings that are coming down the pike to make sure that I continue to get work.
That is it.
I can't believe it that this is the week.
We did a lot in one week.
I would cover Saturday and Sunday, but
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Saturday and Sunday aren't very interesting.
It's all family stuff.
I'm glad you came along on this ride with me to talk about what my week looks like.
This week has been particularly busy.
Normally, it's just a um lot of admin.
But this week, you got to see something a little bit different.
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So next time around, we'll get back to our regular interviews for the podcast.
But thanks so much for joining me.
Alright, it is late, I am going to sleep.
I'll talk to you later, bye.
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All right, that's all that I have for you today.
I can't wait to see you on the next episode.
Bye.
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Hello, friend.
How are you?
My name is Martine Severn and welcome back to This Is How We Create.
In this week's episode, it's going to be a little bit different because we are going to doa week in the life of a creative.
We have not done this format before, but I've been listening to a few podcasts where thehosts do this and I'm always really intrigued.
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That's why I thought we would try it out.
So what is this week in the life thing?
Essentially, it's where a creative, in this case me,
is going to tell you about what's going to happen in my week.
And I'll come in to talk with you in the morning with the gravelly morning voice.
I apologize in advance.
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And I'll tell you about what I have on tap for the morning.
And then in the evening, I will come back in to tell you to see um whether or not I'veactually done everything I set out to do.
It is currently 4.37.
on a Sunday afternoon.
I'm doing this now because it's the little bit of time I have before the onslaught ofprepping for the week comes.
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I am flying kind of bit solo, but my mom is around to help.
My hubby is in Michigan with our little dog, taking care of some family stuff.
So we're working on a project and he's out supervising it.
So I will be missing him.
and I'll be missing our little dog, Percy.
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That said, the week is going to be a really great one.
And I always like to take just 20 minutes before the week starts to go over what I set outto do and to write down anything that might be on my mind.
And in this case, the reason why I'm coming here around 4.30 something is because thisweek I have not one, not two, not three.
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but four photo shoots in one week.
And there four different photo shoots as such.
I need to have my wits about me.
So that's the planning.
And because it's a nice, sexy week, because every day I'm doing something different, Ithought I would, this is a great opportunity to do a week in the life.
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But this is fun.
So you get to see a different side of me than what you see on the podcast with interviews.
So for this week, my agent and I had a phone call with a client on Friday.
Tomorrow, we are finalizing the proposal that's to go out to the client.
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So we'll be working on that.
I have several shoots, as I mentioned.
The shoots are going to be focusing around Black Joy.
After I get off the podcast with you is to just prep and make sure.
All of my batteries are charged, that my gear is set and I'm ready for my photo shoot.
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And I need to double check to make sure that I have enough gas in the car.
So tomorrow morning I'm not left.
Put gas in the car very last minute.
I like to make sure everything is ready, including my clothes, putting it out.
That's it for now.
I will be chatting with you tomorrow morning.
So until, I'll see you soon.
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Good Monday morning to you.
It is 6.45 and I had a little bit of time to meditate this morning.
And the next thing up is to stretch and then wake up my son so that we could havebreakfast and head off to school.
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Well, I won't be heading off to school.
My mom will be taking him to school.
I have to pick up my rentals for this photo shoot that we are having and make sure that Ihave everything that I need.
That is, last night I forgot to print out my shot list so I need to go and do that reallyquickly so that we are going to get everything that we need.
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All the shots and I remind myself that of all that I need to do over breakfast, we arephotographing
downtown in Chicago, we're photographing a barbershop in the morning to talk about Blackjoy and the Black experience.
So the barbershop is in the morning.
Then I get a little bit of a break where I get to come home, have lunch and work ongetting some stuff over to my agent.
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But maybe I'll have time this morning to do that as well.
From there, I go back out
I get to meet up with my editor around, gosh, think we're meeting around 3 15, when that'sgoing to be also downtown.
And I have another meeting in the evening, just a phone call to go over some details for ashoot that we're having on Wednesday.
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That's it.
I'm going to sign off and go.
stretch a little bit and wake up the little boy so that we could have breakfast.
That's all that I have planned for today.
And I will plan on talking to you later on to tell you what I've done and how my dealwent.
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Talk soon.
Bye.
Hi there.
Oh boy, what a day it was.
It is Monday night and 9 44 p.m.
I wanted to tell you a little bit about how today went before I head to bed.
The goal today is to hit the sack by 1030 and get up early tomorrow morning for anotherbig day.
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So this morning I mentioned that I was going to meditate, I was going to stretch and startbreakfast for my son and I want to tell you I did all of that.
Normally
It's not always a given that I will actually stretch, but I know that when I do, I feel sogood in my body.
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So I'm glad I did that.
So after I got everything ready, I did head over to pick up my rentals and then went overto the photo shoot.
It went really, really well.
I was photographing in a barber shop.
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which was really fun and I accidentally on purpose thank you for the universe found abarber who's now going to do my hair as well as my son's for a long time I've been looking
for a black barber so I am glad that I was able to find it through this these twogentlemen I met today at our photo shoot it turns out that I didn't have to create a
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proposal or treatment for the job that I'm bidding for
my agent and I chatted and all we did was simply send over some images to show that Iwould be able to do the job.
And then I had my second photo shoot in the afternoon.
So it was just a back to back to back day.
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And I'm really glad that, ah I'm tired, but I'm really glad that everything went well.
The only thing I didn't squeeze in was a
Workout but in looking at my My iWatch I'm I'm all good I've done over 10,000 stepswalking all around Chicago So I'm not gonna be mad that I didn't do a workout today all
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right so before Before going to bed I just want to let you know that I prepped fortomorrow.
I have my bag and everything ready so
Wish me luck, wish me a good night's sleep, and I'll touch base with you tomorrow to talkabout what I have on deck for Tuesday.
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Okay, see you tomorrow.
Hello, it is Tuesday morning and it is, I'm just hearing the heat come on.
It's Tuesday morning and it's 5.30 a.m.
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I woke up a little bit early so that I can do all of my morning rituals.
That is to meditate, stretch, and start getting ready for the family.
This morning I needed to do a little bit of administrative work because I didn't get achance to do that yesterday on Monday.
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I'm gonna go ahead and do that and then wake up the little guy around 6.45 so that we getready for the day.
Over breakfast, I will go over my shot list and print anything that I didn't print out ormake sure that I have everything set for the photo shoot that we have today.
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Today we're going to be in a church.
oh
on the south side of Chicago.
I think we're supposed to be there around one o'clock.
And so I'm having my assistant come over to meet me normally on Tuesdays.
We have like a heavy duty administrative day.
We tag team on all the things that we need to work on.
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Today she's going to be my assistant in terms of helping me on set.
think I have everything and I want to double check that my, all my grip, I should say allof my camera batteries have fully charged and I want to be sure that I charge everything
because we have to load quite a bit of equipment in my little truck to make it out to thesouth side.
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Once we come back, it will be all about home and family time.
Well that's it.
I hope to chat with you later on.
I'll give you an update as to how the day went.
Bye.
Good evening.
How are you?
Okay, so it is Tuesday and we are getting this baby in early.
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It's 8.35.
I've just put my son down to bed and hmm.
I'm getting this in because tomorrow again is a long day.
But first before talking about tomorrow, let me tell you what happened today.
So today, as you remember, I had the morning free.
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And in the afternoon, I had another photo shoot.
So this whole week is about portfolio building.
It's not about having client work per se, but it's
doing some photo shoots to fill some gaps that there are in my portfolio.
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The shoots that we're doing is because one, I want to create photographs around the blackexperience, around black choice, so we've been doing that today, this whole week as I
mentioned.
And secondly, I'm photographing things in such a way that will make me stronger for futurework.
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that I hope to get.
So today I listed some things I wanted to do.
I meditated, I stretched, and I hung out with my son in the morning.
The morning was kind of cool because I took the morning to help out at a small businessthat my husband has.
And so I just went into the office over there.
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So I did that until about 11 o'clock.
Once I got home, I then went over
Everything that I had set out for my afternoon shoot, I met up with my assistant, Jan, andthen she and I, and we drove to the south side where I'm photographing a church
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experience, a Baptist church experience.
And so that's what I did.
It was tricky, but it was also a lot of fun and really inspirational.
There was this really kind pastor who created, or at least he gave us these sermonsbecause we wanted to photograph people in the process of enjoying church.
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And the pastor gave these sermons that were so inspirational.
And one of the things he talked about is, uh so this was a Baptist church.
And I'm not Baptist, I was raised Catholic.
And essentially he talked about finding joy in life and not letting the world weigh youdown and also not hiding your gifts and not putting your, hiding your gifts under a
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bushel.
But to celebrate your life and to celebrate all that you've been given and what makes youspecial and to celebrate the joy that is in your life.
which I found to be really inspirational.
So once we did that, we headed back oh in my little van.
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We dropped off my editor, who was there helping, and she was just really amazing.
She was telling us stories about working with different creatives when she was working ata magazine.
Stories of Karl Lagerfeld meeting David.
Bowie of doing photo shoots with Sandra Bullock.
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It was really, it was a lot of fun to hear her talk about the good old days.
So once I came home, I hung out with the family and made dinner and then now hang out withmy son, helped with homework.
And now since it's edging towards nine o'clock, I am going to wind it down.
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And I'll see you tomorrow when we talk about what's happening on Wednesday.
Tomorrow is going to be a fun one.
It's an early start.
We have to be on location by eight o'clock.
And so it should be a really good day.
And this is a photo shoot that I've been trying to get scheduled since July.
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And so we finally got all of the talent and the whole team together.
That's it for now.
I am going to...
go get my beauty sleep but first I have to make sure that my bag is in order and to makesure that um I have everything packed and ready to go.
That's it.
Today was a good day.
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And I hope that tomorrow is going to be a good day too.
Talk to you soon.
Bye!
Hello, hello, it's Wednesday.
We're following the same routine of meditating stretch.
I meditated before jumping on to this conversation with you.
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um I'll stretch afterwards.
And I want to say a little bit about the stretch that I do and why I do all thestretching.
It's because I...
get really tight, my muscles get tight and I found this seven minute stretch.
It's a morning flexibility stretch that I do every day and whatever I do it just makes mefeel so long and it makes me feel so good.
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So hopefully I'll get to do that.
We have to talk about the time.
It is 5.45.
I slept in a little bit.
There's quite a bit of things that I want to make sure that I get ready.
I have to leave the house at seven o'clock in order to pack the car and make it on time tothis photo shoot.
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We have to be on set by eight and it's going to take me about 30 minutes to get there.
So that means if I leave around.
around 7.
I think I should leave probably around 7.10.
I should get there around 7.40 which gives me plenty of time to find a nice parking spotand unpack everything.
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Today's photo shoot is going to be about these two women.
m They are actually I'm not sure they identify as women so these two talent
who are going to be hanging out and doing things around the apartment that we've rented onthe South Side.
I'm going back to the South Side of Chicago.
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So they are going to be doing yoga, hanging out with each other.
Essentially, we want to capture friendship between two people.
So we'll see how that goes.
We have a full team of Jen, my assistant, who was with me yesterday on the photo shoot.
for the church.
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We're going to have Ray who does some of the production and editing of the podcast.
And then I have another editor who's going to, somebody who's going to help me on artdirector, should say, who's going to be in on this photo shoot.
So I'm looking forward to it.
I can't wait.
It's a tight morning, so I'm going to beg off and go do the things so that I can get outof the house on time.
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That's it for now.
I'll talk to you later.
Bye.
Good evening to you.
I'm coming to you at 10 22 on Wednesday evening.
What a day.
You know how they say the best lead plans of Meissenmann.
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This was that day.
Goodness gracious.
Let me tell you how it went down.
I managed to wake up on time.
And the secret is that I never wanna wake up on time, mainly because I love to sleep.
So I left on time to head out to my photo shoot and several things happened.
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There was a misprint in the call information.
And I noticed that when I put the address into the GPS,
This is a location that I had photographed at before so I knew where it was and when I putthe address in the GPS.
It was telling me that it was 54 minutes away when I knew that it was supposed to be aboutmaybe 30 minutes away so right away I knew something was wrong.
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My assistant was running late so she would get there an hour after we were meant to bethere.
The woman from whom we were renting the space
said she couldn't get there till 9 and the whole team was supposed to be on location at 8.
I was running late because I kept making wrong turns for some reason the GPS sent me adifferent way because there was just so much traffic in the morning.
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I had enough time to unload and everybody else showed up a few minutes later.
The owner actually came around 9.
We loaded in.
We did the photo shoot.
which was really great.
We were working in tight spaces, so there was a little bit of jiu-jitsu and kind of likeyoga photography, you where you have to get into weird angles.
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Regardless, it was a lot of fun.
We did a lot of different scenes.
It was a heavy lift.
We worked very hard for the time that we had for the location rental.
The two talent that we had put on some Beyonce, and so a good time was had by all.
We ended up getting sweet greens, is for those of you who don't have sweet green near you,fast healthy food.
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Essentially it's a bowl and salad fast food restaurant.
And it was just so delicious.
I think I got something with lots of kale and spinach in it.
So I felt really good.
The talent was really great and they had such great chemistry.
They did yoga.
They hugged.
out, they made smoothies, and then they worked together.
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Now we're back and I'm completely knackered.
But that's to be expected because it was a long day.
We ended up returning all of my rentals prior to coming home.
And once I came home, thank goodness my mom was home and she made dinner, which I'm reallyappreciative of.
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And so it means that all was good.
It was an easy night and I just completely collapsed on the couch and fell asleep.
I took a little nap and then I realized, my goodness, I have to do a recap for you.
So here is my recap.
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Tomorrow I get to sleep in and do not have to wake up before, gosh, I don't have to wakeup before seven.
I'm looking forward to it.
tomorrow will be Thursday.
Two more days until the week is over.
So night.
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Hello, good morning.
Oh, my voice feels particularly gravely this morning.
Hold on a second, I'm gonna take a drink of water.
that feels better.
Okay.
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I slept well last night.
So I'm ready and excited for today.
It's a little bit after seven o'clock, so I got to sleep in a little bit.
And we are gonna go through the routine again.
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From there, I have an easier day today because I'm not photographing anybody.
I always forget how much being a photographer is an active job and it's a very physicaljob.
and my body feels a little bit tired.
Last night I had to take, took an ibuprofen because I should have taken a hot bath withEpsom salt, but I didn't get a chance to do that.
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Today, this morning, I'm heading after getting everyone out the door.
I'm going to be heading to my husband's business to help out at the office to make sure.
that we're meeting some of our numbers and to talk to some of the employees about thethings that we need to do.
From there I get home probably around 11, 11, 3.
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I am working with my assistant, Jen, on...
Actually, I'm not sure I'm working with Jen this morning.
I'll have to double check, but essentially today's going to be an administrative day whereI'm going to be reviewing my files and...
doing my selects.
I think I'm going to keep this one short.
I can already hear our upstairs neighbor and her daughter being fussy.
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today my son has a race.
He has a cross country race.
So I'm really excited about that.
It's supposed to rain today and I hope that the rain holds off.
Okay.
Gotta go.
Bye.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Good evening.
It is 9 47 and I am here with the evening report.
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Today was a lovely day, a lot of surprises.
So this morning I woke up around seven o'clock.
My mother helped out by letting me sleep in just a little bit because I have to say I wasreally tired.
Sadly, I didn't do my morning routine of the meditation, the stretching, just because I tohit the ground running.
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After hanging out with my son, he headed off to school and I went to my husband's job tothe office and helped out there until around 11.
Once I got home around 11.30 and from there what I did is I downloaded all, well uploadedif you will, I backed up all of my files from the last few days from Monday, Tuesday, as
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well as Wednesday.
So I backed up all those files and I started doing the selects for each of the differentphoto shoots that we did.
So I started with the selects for the church and the selects for the two talent that weredoing yoga and that were making the smoothie.
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I worked on those selects and then I also did a little bit of admin work andpre-production work for some photo shoots that we have coming up.
later on this month.
We did have to leave shortly after I got home, not so shortly, essentially by 2 45 we hadto leave because my son, as I mentioned this morning, he has his cross country race.
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And you know, the thing is that it was the whole week was just really beautiful.
And on the day this boy is going to be outside doing a race, it is
cold and it has that heaviness in the air that that heaviness that tells you there's goingto be rain.
Now if ants are butts about it but thankfully we were there watched him run and do all ofthat all of the the team building exercises that his little team of the seven boys
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and five girls or so who were part of the cross country team.
He ran his race, which is a one mile route around a high school not too far from ourhouse.
And as he was finishing the race, it started raining.
Oh, goodness, I brought an umbrella and my umbrella was going this way and that and thewind was blowing us this way and that.
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And not only did he run a mile, but our car was parked.
a mile from where the race was.
So there was a lot of walking, but the highlight of the day is that we afterwards, afterthe race, we went to get some pizza at his favorite pizza place in Chicago, not Chicago
deep dish pizza.
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We liked the Napolitan pizzas ourselves, thin crust all the way.
And so we went and had dinner there.
We came home after coming home.
I just tidied up a little bit and
did my to-do list for the next morning and just made sure that that I had a really goodgame plan for Friday because Friday, my goodness, Friday's tomorrow.
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oh So Friday is going to be my official opportunity to get things done and it's the lastday of the week.
So I'm really pleased that today I haven't had to do as much work.
have to say like I've had to be family facing and obligation facing.
So
not as much hands-on work that had to be done.
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So I think, you know, I worked from 11.30 until about 2.45, a short workday, but I willmake up for it tomorrow morning and I'll make up for it over the weekend.
So that's it.
I'm going to sleep and hopefully tomorrow I'll get a chance to do my regular stretch andmeditation.
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I'll see you tomorrow, goodnight.
Good morning, it's Friday and it is 6, 15 a.m.
I got up this morning and I did my meditation.
I've been using Headspace for a while for my guided meditations and usually I give myself,I think 15 minutes and I've been using a teacher in Headspace called Dora and I love her
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voice.
She's obviously black and
I just love listening to her.
So today's gonna be a really easy peasy one.
Once I get my son out of the house and off to school, I'm gonna head to the office around745 to help the family business out.
When I get there, it's probably gonna be around maybe, maybe 815 and we're in the middleof doing performance reviews right now.
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So I'm going to talk with the managers about the performance of the team.
A lot of the team members, they've had trainings to do on specific safety aspects of thejob.
So today I'll spend some time making sure everyone has completed that training.
From there, I come back home.
And when I come home, usually on the way I'm listening to music, now I'm really at theSilke, in particular, Patrice Roberts.
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So I like to listen to Patrice Roberts when I'm in the car.
I get back home around 1130.
At that point, I sit down and meet with my assistant Jen to work on some admin tasks thatwe are going to have a bit coming up for next week.
You have to put images for those bids and write copy as well.
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have some podcast episodes.
We have to follow up with guests on those episodes.
There's another personal project I'm doing that needs to be finished.
Around the middle of the day, I head off to see my personal trainer around 1 p.m.
And I've been working with him for about two years now.
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So I enjoy going in, lifting, feeling strong.
And we usually end our training sessions with me pushing a sled across the gym.
I'm exhausted at the end, but it feels really good.
I'll return home and hang out with Jen again, my assistant.
and then we will review the week to make sure that we have a good grasp on what's comingahead and that we have plans in place so that I don't feel bereft sometimes when I don't
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plan.
I just feel frustrated so I just try to avoid that as much as possible.
ah My husband's coming home today with our dog, Percy, so I'm excited about that.
That is it, my friends.
I'm gonna go ahead and start the day.
because I still need to do my stretch and hit the shower to get ready.
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Wish me luck that everything goes as planned.
I hope that it's gonna be just a boring day of getting things done.
No surprises.
That's it for now.
I will check back in with you for tonight's recap.
Bye.
It is Friday.
Hello.
Gosh, I'm so pleased to...
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be chatting with you on this Friday.
A lot of things have come back to normal.
I feel like I have more energy.
So let me tell you how the day actually went down.
I did meditate this morning.
Hey, I stretch and my family's back together as I mentioned on Sunday when I did this.
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My husband has been away and
as well as away with our dog.
They've been getting some work done in some super secret family stuff that we have goingdown that I can't talk about.
But they've been away getting some stuff down.
So I'm glad that they're back and it's nice to hang out with my dog.
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Who really is, he missed me and I guess I missed him too.
I missed my dog.
Normally when I'm doing the podcast,
He's seated right in my office next to me and keeps me company.
So it's nice to have him back.
It's nice to have the hubby back.
And it's just nice to have the whole family back.
But let me tell you how the day went down.
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It was a boring day, but I like boring days.
So this morning, you know how it went down.
We did the meditation, the stretching, and the family time.
The little guy went off to school.
and I went and helped at the business.
Then I came back around 11.30, chatted with my assistant and we did, we took care of a lotof admin stuff.
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That's to be coming up.
And then from there, it was just a matter of taking stock.
That's the word I'm looking for.
Taking stock of what we did in the week and then forecasting to next week, figuring out.
What are some of the things coming up and making sure we have plans in place to addressthose things?
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For example, on Monday evening, I have a board meeting and then right after the boardmeeting, I'm leading a discussion with a panelist for the work that I do as the chair of
the Diversity Committee at American Photographic Artists.
I'm leading a discussion with somebody who does work in
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representation in the photo industry.
So I have to prep for that and make sure that I have my notes and everything that I needfor that day.
Overall, it was a boring day of admin work, of making sure that everything is done.
My son came home, we kind of hung out, just took it easy and had dinner.
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My mother made Haitian food, which I love.
I love Haitian food, so was just yummy rice and beans.
I made some salmon to go along with it.
After dinner, we watched the British Bake Off and had this yummy, absolutely deliciousapple pie that I picked up from the grocery store.
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My husband soon came home a little bit around 8.30.
We snuggled with the dog.
I forgot to mention what time it is.
At this point, we are looking at 9.27.
We got to hang out a little bit and now it's time to go to sleep.
I am drinking this really delicious and refreshing glass of bubbles, but I should say notbubbles per se because I gave up drinking.
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Why do you ask that I give up drinking?
Not for any reason other than that it makes me really inflamed and
My body doesn't like it, so I drink sparkling water.
I'm this delicious glass of sparkling water.
And I am stoked to go to sleep because tomorrow is another day that I get to sleep in.
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So I'm looking forward to it.
I did go to the gym.
I mentioned this morning that I was going to go to the gym.
I went to the gym, worked out with my trainer.
It's always good to chat with him.
And he makes me lift heavy things and makes me...
Workout so tomorrow I expect that I will be feeling very sore.
Next week is pretty easy.
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I'm mostly in the office.
We're not going to have a lot of photo shoots, but we are working on some bids and somethings that are coming down the pike to make sure that I continue to get work.
That is it.
I can't believe it that this is the week.
We did a lot in one week.
I would cover Saturday and Sunday, but
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Saturday and Sunday aren't very interesting.
It's all family stuff.
I'm glad you came along on this ride with me to talk about what my week looks like.
This week has been particularly busy.
Normally, it's just a um lot of admin.
But this week, you got to see something a little bit different.
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So next time around, we'll get back to our regular interviews for the podcast.
But thanks so much for joining me.
Alright, it is late, I am going to sleep.
I'll talk to you later, bye.
There, I have a quick favor to ask you before you go.
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They help other creators of color discover our show and tap into their own artisticsuperpowers.
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You can find the link to subscribe in the show notes.
All right, that's all that I have for you today.
I can't wait to see you on the next episode.
Bye.
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