This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the marketing space, talk about the latest content, media and marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of marketing headlines and rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the marketing industry. Always useful, entertaining and pretty much 60 minutes long.
Episodes
Joe and Robert break down Mary Meeker's "Future of AI" report and discuss the biggest opportunities and threats for marketers and creators in the future.
Disney sues Midjourney in yet another lawsuit against AI companies. When will it stop and why should we care?
And Meta invests $15 billion more in AI, trying to catch up in the AI race.
In winners and losers, Joe discusses how to get found in AI searches and Robert talks about the...
Did someone say McDonald's is bringing back snack wraps?
In other news, who knew that artificial intelligence would force brands and publishers toward an indie-creator model? If Google AI is undermining journalism, perhaps the way out is through the individual human creator.
In another AI scandal, Builder.ai collapses, even with a large sum of money invested by Microsoft.
And Netflix adds advertising to its IP. Good decision?
Winne...
AI is again in the headlines this week with Anthropic announcing that its AI will do anything to survive...even bust you for cheating on your wife.
AI layoffs are starting to hit home. It's almost to the point that people are being laid off "by" AI itself. Joe and Robert uncover the truth.
Rand Fishkin discusses 10 ways to understand no-click search...and it's mostly stuff we can actually do.
And long live print, as Microsoft launc...
Google's big marketing event was an explosion of AI - a new home screen, more agents, AI video and even smart bidding. Why? Google's main revenue stream (search ads) is in big trouble.
Is Google going the way of the yellow pages? The boys ponder.
And Apple is in trouble too. OpenAI buys IO, run by the designer behind the iPhone. It seems that OpenAI is going into the hardware business, with their sights directly on Apple.
In other...
The boys have finally jumped the shark with this episode.
But first, Mark Zuckerberg declares war on the advertising industry. Meta's AI Do-It-Yourself tool will either win big or be fly by night. There is no middle ground.
The BBC will push its mission and content into TikTok and Instagram. But is it too late to fight disinformation?
Max becomes HBO Max (again). It will be just HBO in 15 to 18 months.
Marketing winners are Nutter ...
Buckle up! AI is driving now.
Zuckerberg at Meta AI doubles down on their cure for loneliness and more friends, but have taken out any sort of safety precautions. We need to be worried. Very worried.
Trump wants to tariff the movie business. Tell me exactly how that would work please?
And Virginia signs a social media scrolling reduction that won't reduce scrolling.
Winners and losers include LEGO and Warren Buffett.
Rants and rave...
Special episode breaking down the state of content creators, content entrepreneurs and how marketers fit in. Including:
- The Rise of Creators in 2025
- Renting vs. Owning
- The TikTok Effect
- Community as Currency
- Revenue Mix
- How to Get Rich as a Creator
Here's a link to the complete study.
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As Tariffs hang over the US Advertising industry, more companies start to look internal. That means internal communications, internal influencers, owned media and more. Could Trump's Tariffs be a boon for content marketers?
Google loses their online advertising monopoly case. The boys put on their prediction hats to let you know what will happen.
A judge has blocked the termination of VOA. But is it too late? Joe thinks it is.
And ...
The boys are back with news that OpenAI (led by Sam Altman) is considering a social media platform that may compete with Elon's Twitter/X. Let's face it...we know what this is really about. Joe and Robert bring it home for you.
META's big lawsuit with the FTC gets started. Did Zuckerberg grease the skids enough to get this one through?
Creator Economy jobs (aka content marketing) are up, up, up. Why is that?
And the top Gen AI use ...
Has AI finally killed search? Does Google even matter anymore? Must we now build our content on rented land?
The boys go through each of these questions and talk about if "do not build your house on rented land" is still a thing.
In other news, the TikTok deal is delayed (again).
In marketing winners and losers, Joe takes on the Catholic church while Robert gushes over Duolingo.
Rants and raves includes London's takedown of Leon, w...
Possibly our dumbest episode yet.
Joe and Robert go deep into the dumbery to try to make sense of an incredibly weird (and dumb) week.
TikTok is for sale. No it's not. Maybe it is. Will we know this week?
Elon Musk merges his two companies into one, creating the dumbest valuation in the history of corporate mergers.
And META's AI steals a bunch of copyrighted books. Heck, they've probably already stolen this podcast.
Marketing lose...
A very special episode on what makes a successful content marketer or content creator. Robert and Joe talk about what works today to successfully build and monetize an audience with these five keys.
1. For marketers, setting a clear goal up front - sales, savings or sunshine and then find a measurement tool that aligns with current corporate measurement. From the creator side, what's my goal? You exit at the beginning.
2. What's t...
New data suggests that advertising growth is slowing. Overall marketing is soon to follow. Will the current political environment drive us into a marketing recession?
Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei proclaims that AI will take over all coding in the next year. Robert takes offense and the boys talk about the reasons these types of proclamations are made.
And is AI slop a brute force attack on the major platforms? The point? AI content i...
The boys are back and the buys are heating up.
Food-delivery startup Wonder purchased Tastemade, now boasting content creation to meal preparation to delivery all in one. Is more on the way? We think so.
Spotify paid $5 billion dollars to indie creators last year. Is it better to go outside the labels than sign with a big agency?
And Unilever ups their social media budget to 30 to 50 percent of total marketing budget...all for targ...
The boys are back with commentary on the death of media. It's a sad case on both political spectrum. And the opportunity in the future belongs to non-media brands. Let's see what happens.
In other news, more and more creators are going full AI. How close is it to real, or does that even matter?
Marketing winners and losers include Disney and Trump's Gold card.
Rants and raves include travel within the US and Meta testing out agents...
The boys kick off the show with Dow Jones news and their AI content marketplace of 5,000 publishers. The real news? Vertical content opportunities using proprietary LLMs may ultimately steal the show for B2B content creators.
Differentiation is the key coming from B2B speakers at a recent marketing event. The move from company creators to individuals is in full force.
And is Substack the new Instagram for smaller creators?
Winners ...
Reddit announced quarterly results and the stock got hammered. Is Google's changing algorithm to blame? And, if it is, could Google be primed to acquire the 9th largest website on the planet?
In other news, episodic video programs and shows are getting more opportunities for syndication. But with so many shows out there, should brands look at partnering with a creator before creating their own content?
Winners and losers include Al...
Our Super Bowl predictions were dead on, as Joe predicted an Eagles win and Robert predicted a Kendrick Lamar controversy.
But more importantly, who were the advertising winners and losers? And...is the Super Bowl the last remaining moment where everyone comes together to watch television at the same time?
In other news, BuzzFeed launches a social media network called BF Island. We already predict extinction. And do paywalls work? ...
It's Super Bowl week and the boys make their predictions.
Speaking of the Super Bowl, the boys talk about the ads, the value, and what a Super Bowl ad truly costs. And...will there be any winners?
Robert does a comparison between OpenAI's deep research and the corresponding Google product. Which one is better and what should marketers do?
Winners and losers include Nielsen and Hertz communications.
Rants and raves include AMO and T...
Man you cappin'. This week, DeepSeek shocks the AI industry (and the world) with its cheaper more efficient model. What comes next for the industry?
The buyers line up for TikTok, but is the US Government playing favorites?
And Substack is paying cash for TikTok creators to make the switch.
Marketing winners include Timothee Chalamet and the TGL golf league.
Rants and raves include Chris Sacca (on the Tim Ferriss pod), creating mom...
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