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September 30, 2025 56 mins

How do you leverage AI without losing your unique perspective? 

In this episode, Gabe sits down with Donovan Rittenbach: entrepreneur, copywriting expert, author, speaker, and AI marketing specialist. Donovan breaks down how co-thinking with AI can transform your sales, strategy, and business efficiency.

From creating AI tools that emulate the world’s top copywriters to using AI for research and offer positioning, Donovan explains how to use technology as a partner—not a replacement. 

Learn how to save time, make smarter decisions, and amplify your human creativity in any business.

📌 Check out Donovan’s book: https://donovanrittenbach.com/prompt-virtuoso-secret-techniques-to-amplify-your-intelligence-and-not-get-hacked-by-ai-2/ 

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0:00 Introduction

2:00 Donovan’s Entrepreneurial Journey & Background in Sales Copywriting

6:42 Key Insights on AI: Your Perspective Shapes the Output & Raises the Bar

13:00 Thinking Divergently With AI: Why Unique Input Matters

14:58 Introducing Donovan’s AI Tool for Sales Optimization

21:00 Real-World Applications: Research and Offer Positioning

34:43 Sample Outputs: Managing Volume & Quality Without Overwhelm

45:00 The Skill of Asking Good Questions & Thinking With AI: Lessons From Donovan’s Books

53:57 Rethinking Time: Save Hours and Optimize Project Management

55:42 Where to Find Donovan

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