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June 19, 2025 62 mins

The three talented and insightful climate change activists/energy experts in this panel episode can see right through oil and gas industry spin - and that's because each of them used to work for a fossil fuel company.

You'll hear from Lindsey Gulden (formerly of Exxon, now with US-based Leg Up Data), Greg Bourne (ex-BP and now a Climate Council councillor after stints heading environment group WWF Australia and chairing the Australian Renewable Energy Agency), and Alex Hillman (ex-Woodside and now with the Australasian Centre for Corporate Responsibility). 

They share their unique insights into how fossil companies really think and operate. Find out:

  • How the messaging from oil and gas companies differs from reality.
  • How these companies have changed in recent years.
  • Key steps to achieving a fossil fuel phase-down, even if these businesses refuse to willingly transition.

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