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On the next episode of Truth Be Told Paranormal, join host Tony Sweet as he delves into the mysterious and unexplained with special guest Ben Hansen, renowned UFO investigator and host of UFO Witness. With his unique background in law enforcement and a deep passion for the paranormal, Ben has uncovered some of the most bizarre and compelling cases of extraterrestrial encounters.
In this episode, Tony and Ben will discuss Ben's top alien investigations, the crossover between crime scenes and UFO sightings, and what it takes to explore the unknown. Tune in for an intriguing conversation that blends real-world detective work with the mysteries of the cosmos. Whether you're a seasoned UFO enthusiast or just curious about what lies beyond, this is an episode you won't want to miss!
Tune in on the Club Paranormal YouTube channel to hear this eye-opening discussion. Whether you’re a history buff or a fan of the unexplained, this episode promises to challenge everything you thought you knew.
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On the next episode of Truth Be Told Paranormal, join host Tony Sweet as he delves into the mysterious and unexplained with special guest Ben Hansen, renowned UFO investigator and host of UFO Witness. With his unique background in law enforcement and a deep passion for the paranormal, Ben has uncovered some of the most bizarre and compelling cases of extraterrestrial encounters.
In this episode, Tony and Ben will discuss Ben's top alien investigations, the crossover between crime scenes and UFO sightings, and what it takes to explore the unknown. Tune in for an intriguing conversation that blends real-world detective work with the mysteries of the cosmos. Whether you're a seasoned UFO enthusiast or just curious about what lies beyond, this is an episode you won't want to miss!
Tune in on the Club Paranormal YouTube channel to hear this eye-opening discussion. Whether you’re a history buff or a fan of the unexplained, this episode promises to challenge everything you thought you knew.
#TruthBeToldParanormal #UFOWitness #BenHansen #ParanormalPodcast #AlienInvestigations #UFOs #Extraterrestrial #Mystery #Paranormal #TonySweet #PodcastInterview #UnexplainedPhenomena #ParanormalCommunity #CosmicMysteries #UFOCommunity
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
Here on Truth be Told, we explore the mysteries that
lie beyond the ordinary, and today we got a treat
for you all that is fascinated by the unexplained. Our
guest is none other than Ben Hanson, a former FBI
agent who has become one of the leading voices in
the UFO and investigations of this phenomenon. You may know
him from Factor Fake Paranormal Files, where he brought his
(01:13):
investigation skills to the forefront, or from the latest TMZ
documentary Strange and Suspicious, where he continues to dig into
some of the most intriguing UFO cases out there. Ben
is here to share his insights in the latest on
what's really happening in our skies. Get ready for an
eye opening conversation. I'm Tony Sweet with Truth be Told.
Please welcome back to the Truth Be Told Studios, the
(01:35):
one and only Ben Hanson.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hey Ben, how are you good?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
How are you? Tony?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I am amazing And I have to say it's been
about a year, almost a year and a half since
I saw you at the Parapod Festival. And first of all,
thank you on air about doing such a great job.
Even when we had a lot of rain and cloudy skies.
You were the man and just still put on a
great expectation.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So it's fun.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
No, it was fun never you never know it was
outdoor things because you know the sky I and a
lot of stories if the sky is overcast right right.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It was pouring down rain that week, so we were
lucky enough to just be able to do it at all.
But but thank you for doing that. And uh and uh,
I have to say with this new TMZ thing that
came out, Uh, I really appreciated you being a part
of it. You know, strange and suspicious and uh, I
(02:38):
just wanted to dive right into that. How did you
get involved in that? And uh, unfortunately I haven't even
got to see it yet, and I'm curious to see
you know what what you guys covered, It.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Was a lot of fun. It was. I didn't even
know anyone at TMZ.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
They just reached my agent, and I guess some of
the producers had looked what I was doing, and they
go through you know of auditions and talking to Fox
who are and they're like, you know, we we'd like
to do something. And the cast is a combination of
(03:19):
people who are like.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Posters on true crime.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
There's an archaeopsis, there's detectives and and all sorts of
people from different so I don't just deal with you know,
ufon and paranormal, but missing and these high profile murder cases.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
It's fun.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You know, we banter and go back forth. It's kind
of the same style as a few TMZ Live and
Harvey Levin is hosts, and we throw out ideas and
and kind of argue fun with it.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
No, I mean just just from some of the other
stuff that they put out, you know, it's it's pretty
awesome and and I'm always about true crime type of
I think it kind of the combination of true crime
and paranormal is always that investigation part of it.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And with with.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Your background, I mean that that must be something that really,
you know, drew you to this, you know, business after
you retired from Now, were you an FBI agent or
did you work specific specifically for the FBI or were
you like like a private consultant or so people that
don't know much about you a few words, sorry, I
(04:37):
think I oh, so for the people that are watching,
so we're we're live. So Ben, the the internet's a
little choppy, a little choppy, So hang in there with us.
We're going to have a great conversation here shortly. But
what I was asking Ben, is you know, were you
uh embedded in the FBI or were you a private consultant?
(05:00):
Just so the people that don't know your background that
really kind of brought you into this investigation side of
your what you're doing now.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I think I'm capturing the just No, when I was
in the Bureau, I had nothing to do with animal
and in fact, they mostly have not been in that business,
so to speak, for many years, though I do know
that occasionally they'll get cases on things.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
My interest went a lot earlier than you know.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I was like old and started researching this stuff on
my own, and I did for the government. Was related
or specific to that, I wish, I mean it would
be not. It was six files but it wasn't wasn't
any but the transition. I think I cautioned people, you
(05:59):
know by saying I never claimed to be.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Tre law enforced when I wasn't there that long.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
The people kind of get in their minds when when
people come over from that, like we got to be
an expert, professional investigator to get in this zone. That's
what I tell people is like, look skills and you
can interview and you know how to use this process
and methodically look at things from the beginning to that's
(06:26):
what's necessary. So did I gain skills from it? Yeah,
I'm I interviewed thousands of people of crimes, and I
think I have it for telling when.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
People are lying.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
And maybe know most people, but but all being objective,
right because people they tend to side for opposite conclusion
or the other and they become.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Really their own being.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
And I tell everyone, you know, I'm not invested in
any case, like it'd be cool to find something. And
you said, if the evidence is pointing you in another
direction explainable, then don't let that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I will admit when we found ovogate things are prosaic
and I'm not like, yeah, so I think those are
the things that kind of that I really got from
my experience, and I.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm glad you brought that up because there there's many
podcasts now and Netflix shows that are actually solving a
lot of crimes and a lot of investigations that have
been unsolved for many years. So it shows you that
you don't need to be a professional to be a
(07:52):
professor a successful investigator. And for some of those people people,
well for some of those people out there that are
watching this today or listening this today, can you kind
of maybe give them some advice on how to do
it right so they don't get in trouble because you know,
there's a lot of times asking the wrong people or
(08:14):
asking the wrong questions can get people in trouble. How
how what is some of your advice on people starting
in this.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Industry and what way do you mean, like get them
in trouble?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Well, I mean through through you know, just liable through
even just upsetting family members, agencies that maybe you know,
ruffling feathers is just trying to you know, ask the
right questions and and you know, doing the right investigations
(08:48):
versus just going balls to the wall and and pissing
everybody off.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, well, I think if get anything we say paranormal
old tigo about maybe ghosts, investigations and stuff like that, ryptids,
you have UFO cases. One thing is when someone brings
you a case from the world that I worked in,
where you first want to look at the person telling
(09:16):
the story right after telling the truth or not. But
you can't be organistic, right because a lot of people
for true trauma, and even though let's say I have
a paranormal explanation, you believe someone will come to you
and say, hey, take a look at this phone. I'm
sure you've had this a lot, you know, take a
(09:38):
look at this. My dad passed away last week and
I caught this orb. You know that I was reviewed
and it showed up right when I was thinking about
him or playing is this my dad?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Right?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
One thing I have to tell people is like, first
of all, do you want my own this opinion? It
doesn't matter what I believe, you know, believe.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And really doing.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I'm like, okay, because a lot of people get ticked
and you didn't really want.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
My opinion, You just want me to go along.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
And so that's one sectivity is because there's so much
palf of how they relate that to their personal lives.
This thing is if they were lying and making stuff up,
you can't hang over their head. Hey, you're going to
go to jail for any case, right, So there's no
(10:37):
real motivation for them not to lie to you if
they're making money or fame.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So that's kind of hard.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
So you know, people get getting also realize, of course
we don't get paid for it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
You know, do your best to be for people. Nobody's
experts in the field like that word at all. But
we're all trying to experiment and to learn and provide
insight and hopefull cases help people, you know, but there's
(11:12):
not really either. I think you should stay away from
saying that a case is one hundred percent's it's all,
you know, it's a matter of probabilities and unless you
have that smoking gun standing that kind of like vernacular
and telling people like science is a probability that it's
(11:34):
most likely this or most likely.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
So if you stay objective.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Unitive to the fact that a lot of people are
going to get a fit, you know, if it's part
of their course, and you kind of navigate those waters.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I mean, that's how you investigate this sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, and with paranormal and true crime, you know, like
I said, has become a major genre of interest for
many of us over the last ten fifteen years, where
before it was kind of a taboo, you know, it
was kind.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Of those crazies over there talk especially about.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
The paranormal world. But what role do you think shows
like Factor Fake or Ancient Aliens have helped your investigation
workplay investigating work play into shaping public perceptions such as
with crime and justice and stuff like that. How do
you feel these shows have really changed the mindset of
(12:39):
modern thinking towards the paranormal or even true crime.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well, you're right, I mean it. I don't think anyone
can argue that. Before let's say, the shoenres was on
the air, right, if you mentioned a lot of people thought,
oh that's the occult, right, right, salances, right, sit down
with a Ouiji board. And when I first got into
(13:06):
this about that time period it was actually started, but
there was like every help would invite some ghost hunters on,
they played EVPs and they play back these recordings, and
that was like the first time I was like, wait,
since you're telling me technology can start to capture this
(13:28):
stuff to it and we're not, you know, trying to
do a lot of people still do that.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
But then the stunners came along.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
It was the first time we believe mainstream was like,
there are actually people truym by science to this and
developing theories you can go back to or not einstid
I'm sorry blanking on who would invent the uh not
(14:01):
Alexander ground Bell. It's he experimented with the ghost machine,
like to try and talk to the dead.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So I was saying it was the first time.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
That that, But when you put it on TV, suddenly
it became suceptable and it became cool, and it started
popping up hundreds across the country, you know. And and
so when it's on TV on side too is you
get some show that's just kind of goofing around, you know,
(14:39):
and nothing against specific, but someone starts popularizing a ghost
app or something, and then all of a sudden people
are like, well we'll use that. They do it on
TV and it has no basis inside, right, So it
influenced and now it's okay to talk about a lot
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of things.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Same thing with UFOs. You get a couple legit video.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
From the government and the TV show to get them
and play them ad nause them. All of a sudden,
it's impople and it's like, okay, well it has an
official stamp of approval.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Gree Well, I mean, if we weren't alive. But when the.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh gosh, now I'm going blank on the when they
was at War of the worlds or the guy, the
radio guy that said that the Aliens attacked back in
like nineteen thirties or something like that, or Orson Wells,
Orson Wells.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yes, it took.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I have that over middle aged brain fog sometimes. But
how people panicked. I don't think people would even blank
now if they said aliens would invade. They're like, oh,
I was just waiting for it to happen.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's a complete different mindset now, but it and I
think that's the exciting part of being about where we
are in twenty twenty four, and you know, I'm excited
to see what even ten twenty thirty.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Years from now, what happens.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But we do have a question from the chat room,
and they do ask in people in the chat room.
If you want to ask a question, please leave it
in there. And if I think it works well with
what we're talking about I'll ask it, but what do
you find more most challenging when conducting investigations in the
true crime cases compared to paranormal or UFO and investigations.
(16:33):
Is there much of a difference in investigating between the two?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I missed just the last sentence. There is it?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Is there a difference on how you approach or how
you investigate a true crime versus a UFO case or
a ghost case.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, there's a lot of different.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
One thing, it's a hard habit from documentation, right because
when I do a TV. When I started doing TV,
a notebook and I was always writings if I was
going to then write a report the court, right and
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and and all your chain and command everything, like it's
going to go to court. And it was very producers
throw a nine, right, and it's reduced to just a
couple of minutes on TV. You know, you know, it's
kind of like, well, I'm don't care who's going to
(17:42):
read it, right, right, So kind of back to doing
that though, because when we have that do have a
actual impact, right to things such as me or maybe
there's a national security shirt an object scene over an
(18:04):
air base, right, So those world impacts and so you
have to go back to again committing it and investigating
it like a crime scene, very similar parallel, they're not
so much in the ghost world, although there's some groups
who are pretty good and have a client, you know,
(18:24):
like a home or business, and they do commit So
I'd say that's kind of like the bigggest is that
you're preparing to take something to court, you know, crime scene.
And like I said that, the repercussions would be if
that solve the crime, someone goes to jail, who are
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you going to.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Put in jail with?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
You know, our normal investigations, you might solve something whe
taxing something, but they're not going to jail.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
So there there's a big.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Words and and uh so Jamie and the chat room
also this is a different question, but uh it's kind
of jumping back to strange and suspicious. Apparently Jamie got
to see it, which like I said, I have not,
I'm going to watch it this weekend, so uh you
(19:23):
can't hold hold and hold that against me. Uh but
uh on some of the some of the topics that
they discussed, it's like what could you give us some
background and what was or how you researched on the
the show itself, and what were some of the topics
that were your favorite to touch on?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So the question is how I'm sorry the first part,
how does? How does? What? With the kid?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So? So what for the topics itself? What what were
some of the favorite topics that you discussed and searched on?
And and also what were some of the topics that
you did discuss and how were they? I guess from
my side of it, how were they discussed? How were
they picked? Did they already come to you with the
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subjects or did they Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Both.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
They kind of looked to me to be the the
UFO I got it again. I hate the word expert,
but so well connected to those stories and things that
come my way.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
So right, so I've rolling.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Directly to me their UFO videos and then I'll send
some of those to the producers over The producers are
also the whole team of people looking for usual stories.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Sending to them.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Sometimes they would have one particular person take the loop
because you're you're kind of the expert on our can
you look further into this? And uh, you mathematician, so
can you look into stuff like explain more of this part?
So that's what what was really quote, and then you
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had some LAPD forms who were homicide detectives and some
of the actually because they don't ever spend a lot
of time myself of crime, but these unsolved murders and
you know, possible serial killers. And so when you really
(21:30):
dive into it and see some investigations that seemed to
be really.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Botched in the world do they come to.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
These conclusions to be found and it's not like I
think crime's there, but you kind of kick the audience
and say, hey, don't you think someone should take a quote.
This one in particular was this one we'll probably heard
of where the the husband was I think they're going
(22:00):
through marital problems. They're there in the hot tub, they
had some discussion or something. She goes back inside and
she went her time, and then she was found on
the stairs. Husband you know, calls nine one one. The
door I think was closed and everything. But the whole
(22:24):
theory now was that he didn't They thought that he
took the fire what do they call those that you
bogs with your fireplace stick? Yeah, the poker start the
poker stick. Yeah, thought that he took that and attacked her.
(22:45):
But there wasn't a blood or anything on the thing,
and someone the theory that maybe.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
It was an owl.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Right, she actually had little feathers, you know, in her
hair that probably came for a mile, and yet we
never heard if they tested it for an owl. And
there were scrape marks in the shape of like talons,
you know, and it's like maybe she went outside in
her hair and started she's like fighting with it, losing
(23:16):
blood and then she tries and falls down, and I'm like,
it is strange sounds, I argue in that segment that
be possible, because you know, I do know. I think
the falconer and the marks that were laughed and it's
really weird.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
No, that is really really weird and weird. And I
what I find weird is, you know, with human beings
were so wrapped up in things we don't know. It's
instead of that, we we focus on the things we
do know, and we just you know, try to go
after everything that we know.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
But yet we always want to know more.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We We're like a cat, you know, we we have
to you know, why serial killers, you know, kill all
these people?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Why the UFOs?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And it's it fascinates me because I'm the same way
I could sit and watch a true crime, serial killer
movie all you know, documentaries all day or UFO or
Ancient Egypt or and it's it's fascinating. That why we're
so fascinating.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
If it's a survival.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Thing, maybe maybe it seems a bit morbid be bond
to it. Maybe it's like our innate and say like, well,
I want to make sure that doesn't happen to me.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
True, so I want to learn about this, right maybe.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Maybe or how to or how to be a serial killer?
Who knows, Well, we have some people that want to
know about UFOs, and you know, because we talk a
lot about that, and like I said, next week through
October it's all going to be ghosts and spirits because
it's going to be the Halloween season. So this might
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be one of the last times for a few months
we talked about UFOs. And so the question is is,
how do you think the recent congressional hearings on UFOs
and UAPs will shape the future of UFO research and
public perception? Your personal opinion? What do you think?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I'd say, just because the motive the motive guessing this
just because we haven't heard anything for a while, it isn't.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
There.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I believe there's going to be more hearings. Floodgates could
possibly break open. The more, you know, perhaps government video
those you know, maybe people will leak more stuff. Right,
I think some of it's going to be released, and
(25:58):
I think it's personally become undeniable that the government's already
said some explained. So I'm not saying that it's actual,
but I think it's gonna convince more and more people.
You can't just have prosaic explanations for all of this,
so how does that change investigations are going to go forward.
(26:20):
I think they're going to start reaching out kind of
enlisting the the the general public's help in doing some
of this, but mainly through reporting. There are bases we
just don't have the best quality, you know, content that's
(26:40):
been captured by cameras.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And stuff coming out.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
You're going to see the milit tarrifitting their their jets
with cameras that can capture the name and and then
who knows yours here things could really start rolling.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And do you think, uh, like maybe a next big
breakthrough or revelation what what in the study of UFO
and paranormal what what do you think is kind of
the next big breakthrough will be.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I think, well, in the UFO world, I think the
next thing it's going to have to happen official confirmation
that the government or parts probably have known more than
than they're letting because this point, you know, they're they're
basically just getting caught and saying like no or had
(27:35):
an investigative group. Okay, well you found that we did,
you know, And now it's like they're crass retrievals. But
yet the witnesses are secondhand witnesses. So baby, they'll get
some people coming to incredible evidence that they've had a
crash retrieval program.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
M hm. So I think that'll kind of be the
next big step, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
And and also not to leave out ghosts, your tax
dollars have gone to pay for study, you know that
when they were looking example for Robert Bigelow's you know
skin walker right right and stuff where they were paying
money to test theories and wormholes exes and you know,
so is there government's gone towards some of this?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And I know, I know you got to get out
of here soon. So we do have another question, and
I think this is a good one. Is there is
looking back at your career or looking forward in your
career too, is there something that you wished you would
have researched or is there something that you really want
to work on next?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Because Ben has done pretty much everything you can think
of when it comes to investigating UFOs and paranormal and
even true touching on true crime and even the sky is.
I mean, he gives a great sky presentation, which I
think stargazing. You guys, if you ever have a chance
to go see him at some of these conferences, you
(29:06):
should sit down and just listen to him speak.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
So, but.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Going forward or even backwards, is there something you wish
you would have, you know, been a part of, or
is there something that you're looking forward to being a
part of or maybe want to work on that hasn't
been discovered yet or hasn't been solved yet.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I think we're living in really exciting times. I actually
try to do the opposite. I've tried to get away
from it. I never thought that I would be in this,
you know, And you know, sometimes my family's like, hey,
why don't you get a normal job, Why don't you.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Go work for somebody else? Right, you have a regular
salary again, and all this.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
And I'm like, well, I'm not opposed to that, but
then I get sucked back in.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You know, it's usually a TV showers and so I
kind of keep it.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
But I do think there's a potent to actually do
this now that government, you know, is starting to come
forward and take it serious to help people do their
jobs better, and you kind of have to look at
again going back as a national security issue. That's how
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they get there, right, So when Congress and everybody is
pushing for the truth, you know, are we in the
threat here?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I do think there's some dangers.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
There's the flight safety, there's dangers with we can't control
our airspace.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
We don't know who's flying no bases.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
We don't know who's turning off our nukes, right, so
I think there's a threat, so to speak. But when
there's a threat, you know they're gonna put money for it.
In my goal, I guess, because the question is like
what do I see in my future?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
It'd be really cool to be able.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
To to to kind of keep up and help lead
that converstate where it's gonna go politically, because they're big
social impacts involved here. You know, we're writing papers on
this stuff right now. Hopefully you know at some point,
because there are things that people to start thinking about.
(31:25):
And and for most people it's just the novels, dude,
but you know, pretty soon it might become something.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And one thing again, I'm gonna keep praising you a
little bit. One thing I really appreciate you for is
your your your bias.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
You you you.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Really want to do a neutral you go into it
as a neutral party, uh, and do the investigation where
many not saying I'm not gonna name names, but there
are a lot of people out there that just doing
this for fame. You know, I have to say, you know,
they're they they're being part of a project or doing
things that are really just doing it for fame. And
and Ben is definitely somebody that's putting the work in
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doing the investigation before he opens his mouth. And so
I really appreciate you doing that. I mean, that's thank you.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Of course, it'd be nice if I ever can help
pay the bills, and I can solely that's the point. Now,
it's fun to do TV shows, but as behind the scenes,
it might be helping to do TV shows, but I
don't I don't necessarily need to be on call. You know,
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if you really enjoy the sect and what you're doing
and if you're making a difference, then what I care about.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And it's not for me. What I'm saying is it's
not about Uh. I've seen many people they read somebody
else's book and then they become the expert off somebody
else's research. And so you're not like that. You do
your research to present that to the audience, which I
appreciate more. Which it's not the fame of being on
(33:08):
a television show. There's nothing wrong with that, you know,
or a podcast or.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Whatever you're doing.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
But it's for me, it's it's about doing the work
and really doing the research and learning for yourself how
to how to you know, display that to our audience.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
And I have to say.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
That's something that you know a lot of people should
if they're going to get into this. Don't do it
saying I want to be famous. Do it because I'm
passionate about the work and I'm passionate about getting out
the the correct information to the audience. So that's and
that's what I want to do. I want to try to,
you know.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Build the.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
A core group of people that really can bring the
the information to the audience and and they can walk
away going I want to I want to be I
want to do that. I want to go out in
the field and learn. So but Ben, you are amazing.
I I can't wait to see again. I I know
you have an event coming up I believe next week.
(34:03):
Is it a phenomenon or something like that you're going
to be at.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah, heading up to vernal Utah, which is just like
yes or less from Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So it's kind of like the.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
It's I don't know that. I think they're in their
three year or so that it keeps growing. I hear
it's a really big conference. I mean that's because you
have the Skinwalker Ranch cap, you have blind Frog Ranch,
you know, and all the stuff that happens there in
you and a basin. It's like probably some tickets left,
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but it's when through Saturday.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So it's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Are you going to do any stargazing or just more
of a speaker?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Not this year?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
They I think if they have me back, they want
to add that I'm bringing some stuff. Yeah for sure,
because I got a friend who has literally right next
door to Skinwalker Oh.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
My god, that would be amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yeah, I don't Brandon Fugel is going to be out
there this you know, if he's he ever's gone out,
but he's invited numerous times and we just haven't linked
up to go over actual ranch.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
But even well, I want to go on an investigation
with you one of these days. So I'm going to
invite myself one of these days and say, Ben, I'm going.
So let's do it, all right, Well, people go to
Ben Hanson dot com check out all the information what's
he's going to be doing, and what TV shows he's
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going to be on, and what other investigations he's working on. So,
but Ben, thank you so much for being part of
Truth Be Told again.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Thank you, Thanks Tony, all right, take.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
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Here on Truth be Told, we explore the mysteries that
lie beyond the ordinary, and today we got a treat
for you all that is fascinated by the unexplained. Our
guest is none other than Ben Hanson, a former FBI
agent who has become one of the leading voices in
the UFO and investigations of this phenomenon. You may know
him from Factor Fake Paranormal Files, where he brought his
(01:13):
investigation skills to the forefront, or from the latest TMZ
documentary Strange and Suspicious, where he continues to dig into
some of the most intriguing UFO cases out there. Ben
is here to share his insights in the latest on
what's really happening in our skies. Get ready for an
eye opening conversation. I'm Tony Sweet with Truth be Told.
Please welcome back to the Truth Be Told Studios, the
(01:35):
one and only Ben Hanson.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hey Ben, how are you good?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
How are you? Tony?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I am amazing And I have to say it's been
about a year, almost a year and a half since
I saw you at the Parapod Festival. And first of all,
thank you on air about doing such a great job.
Even when we had a lot of rain and cloudy skies.
You were the man and just still put on a
great expectation.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So it's fun.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
No, it was fun never you never know it was
outdoor things because you know the sky I and a
lot of stories if the sky is overcast right right.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It was pouring down rain that week, so we were
lucky enough to just be able to do it at all.
But but thank you for doing that. And uh and uh,
I have to say with this new TMZ thing that
came out, Uh, I really appreciated you being a part
of it. You know, strange and suspicious and uh, I
(02:38):
just wanted to dive right into that. How did you
get involved in that? And uh, unfortunately I haven't even
got to see it yet, and I'm curious to see
you know what what you guys covered, It.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Was a lot of fun. It was. I didn't even
know anyone at TMZ.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
They just reached my agent, and I guess some of
the producers had looked what I was doing, and they
go through you know of auditions and talking to Fox
who are and they're like, you know, we we'd like
to do something. And the cast is a combination of
(03:19):
people who are like.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Posters on true crime.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
There's an archaeopsis, there's detectives and and all sorts of
people from different so I don't just deal with you know,
ufon and paranormal, but missing and these high profile murder cases.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
It's fun.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You know, we banter and go back forth. It's kind
of the same style as a few TMZ Live and
Harvey Levin is hosts, and we throw out ideas and
and kind of argue fun with it.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
No, I mean just just from some of the other
stuff that they put out, you know, it's it's pretty
awesome and and I'm always about true crime type of
I think it kind of the combination of true crime
and paranormal is always that investigation part of it.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And with with.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Your background, I mean that that must be something that really,
you know, drew you to this, you know, business after
you retired from Now, were you an FBI agent or
did you work specific specifically for the FBI or were
you like like a private consultant or so people that
don't know much about you a few words, sorry, I
(04:37):
think I oh, so for the people that are watching,
so we're we're live. So Ben, the the internet's a
little choppy, a little choppy, So hang in there with us.
We're going to have a great conversation here shortly. But
what I was asking Ben, is you know, were you
uh embedded in the FBI or were you a private consultant?
(05:00):
Just so the people that don't know your background that
really kind of brought you into this investigation side of
your what you're doing now.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I think I'm capturing the just No, when I was
in the Bureau, I had nothing to do with animal
and in fact, they mostly have not been in that business,
so to speak, for many years, though I do know
that occasionally they'll get cases on things.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
My interest went a lot earlier than you know.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I was like old and started researching this stuff on
my own, and I did for the government. Was related
or specific to that, I wish, I mean it would
be not. It was six files but it wasn't wasn't
any but the transition. I think I cautioned people, you
(05:59):
know by saying I never claimed to be.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Tre law enforced when I wasn't there that long.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
The people kind of get in their minds when when
people come over from that, like we got to be
an expert, professional investigator to get in this zone. That's
what I tell people is like, look skills and you
can interview and you know how to use this process
and methodically look at things from the beginning to that's
(06:26):
what's necessary. So did I gain skills from it? Yeah,
I'm I interviewed thousands of people of crimes, and I
think I have it for telling when.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
People are lying.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
And maybe know most people, but but all being objective,
right because people they tend to side for opposite conclusion
or the other and they become.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Really their own being.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
And I tell everyone, you know, I'm not invested in
any case, like it'd be cool to find something. And
you said, if the evidence is pointing you in another
direction explainable, then don't let that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I will admit when we found ovogate things are prosaic
and I'm not like, yeah, so I think those are
the things that kind of that I really got from
my experience, and I.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm glad you brought that up because there there's many
podcasts now and Netflix shows that are actually solving a
lot of crimes and a lot of investigations that have
been unsolved for many years. So it shows you that
you don't need to be a professional to be a
(07:52):
professor a successful investigator. And for some of those people people,
well for some of those people out there that are
watching this today or listening this today, can you kind
of maybe give them some advice on how to do
it right so they don't get in trouble because you know,
there's a lot of times asking the wrong people or
(08:14):
asking the wrong questions can get people in trouble. How
how what is some of your advice on people starting
in this.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Industry and what way do you mean, like get them
in trouble?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Well, I mean through through you know, just liable through
even just upsetting family members, agencies that maybe you know,
ruffling feathers is just trying to you know, ask the
right questions and and you know, doing the right investigations
(08:48):
versus just going balls to the wall and and pissing
everybody off.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, well, I think if get anything we say paranormal
old tigo about maybe ghosts, investigations and stuff like that, ryptids,
you have UFO cases. One thing is when someone brings
you a case from the world that I worked in,
where you first want to look at the person telling
(09:16):
the story right after telling the truth or not. But
you can't be organistic, right because a lot of people
for true trauma, and even though let's say I have
a paranormal explanation, you believe someone will come to you
and say, hey, take a look at this phone. I'm
sure you've had this a lot, you know, take a
(09:38):
look at this. My dad passed away last week and
I caught this orb. You know that I was reviewed
and it showed up right when I was thinking about
him or playing is this my dad?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Right?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
One thing I have to tell people is like, first
of all, do you want my own this opinion? It
doesn't matter what I believe, you know, believe.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And really doing.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I'm like, okay, because a lot of people get ticked
and you didn't really want.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
My opinion, You just want me to go along.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
And so that's one sectivity is because there's so much
palf of how they relate that to their personal lives.
This thing is if they were lying and making stuff up,
you can't hang over their head. Hey, you're going to
go to jail for any case, right, So there's no
(10:37):
real motivation for them not to lie to you if
they're making money or fame.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So that's kind of hard.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
So you know, people get getting also realize, of course
we don't get paid for it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
You know, do your best to be for people. Nobody's
experts in the field like that word at all. But
we're all trying to experiment and to learn and provide
insight and hopefull cases help people, you know, but there's
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not really either. I think you should stay away from
saying that a case is one hundred percent's it's all,
you know, it's a matter of probabilities and unless you
have that smoking gun standing that kind of like vernacular
and telling people like science is a probability that it's
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most likely this or most likely.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
So if you stay objective.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Unitive to the fact that a lot of people are
going to get a fit, you know, if it's part
of their course, and you kind of navigate those waters.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I mean, that's how you investigate this sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, and with paranormal and true crime, you know, like
I said, has become a major genre of interest for
many of us over the last ten fifteen years, where
before it was kind of a taboo, you know, it
was kind.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Of those crazies over there talk especially about.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
The paranormal world. But what role do you think shows
like Factor Fake or Ancient Aliens have helped your investigation
workplay investigating work play into shaping public perceptions such as
with crime and justice and stuff like that. How do
you feel these shows have really changed the mindset of
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modern thinking towards the paranormal or even true crime.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well, you're right, I mean it. I don't think anyone
can argue that. Before let's say, the shoenres was on
the air, right, if you mentioned a lot of people thought,
oh that's the occult, right, right, salances, right, sit down
with a Ouiji board. And when I first got into
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this about that time period it was actually started, but
there was like every help would invite some ghost hunters on,
they played EVPs and they play back these recordings, and
that was like the first time I was like, wait,
since you're telling me technology can start to capture this
(13:28):
stuff to it and we're not, you know, trying to
do a lot of people still do that.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
But then the stunners came along.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
It was the first time we believe mainstream was like,
there are actually people truym by science to this and
developing theories you can go back to or not einstid
I'm sorry blanking on who would invent the uh not
(14:01):
Alexander ground Bell. It's he experimented with the ghost machine,
like to try and talk to the dead.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So I was saying it was the first time.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
That that, But when you put it on TV, suddenly
it became suceptable and it became cool, and it started
popping up hundreds across the country, you know. And and
so when it's on TV on side too is you
get some show that's just kind of goofing around, you know,
(14:39):
and nothing against specific, but someone starts popularizing a ghost
app or something, and then all of a sudden people
are like, well we'll use that. They do it on
TV and it has no basis inside, right, So it
influenced and now it's okay to talk about a lot
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of things.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Same thing with UFOs. You get a couple legit video.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
From the government and the TV show to get them
and play them ad nause them. All of a sudden,
it's impople and it's like, okay, well it has an
official stamp of approval.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Gree Well, I mean, if we weren't alive. But when the.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh gosh, now I'm going blank on the when they
was at War of the worlds or the guy, the
radio guy that said that the Aliens attacked back in
like nineteen thirties or something like that, or Orson Wells,
Orson Wells.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yes, it took.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I have that over middle aged brain fog sometimes. But
how people panicked. I don't think people would even blank
now if they said aliens would invade. They're like, oh,
I was just waiting for it to happen.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's a complete different mindset now, but it and I
think that's the exciting part of being about where we
are in twenty twenty four, and you know, I'm excited
to see what even ten twenty thirty.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Years from now, what happens.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But we do have a question from the chat room,
and they do ask in people in the chat room.
If you want to ask a question, please leave it
in there. And if I think it works well with
what we're talking about I'll ask it, but what do
you find more most challenging when conducting investigations in the
true crime cases compared to paranormal or UFO and investigations.
(16:33):
Is there much of a difference in investigating between the two?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I missed just the last sentence. There is it?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Is there a difference on how you approach or how
you investigate a true crime versus a UFO case or
a ghost case.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, there's a lot of different.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
One thing, it's a hard habit from documentation, right because
when I do a TV. When I started doing TV,
a notebook and I was always writings if I was
going to then write a report the court, right and
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and and all your chain and command everything, like it's
going to go to court. And it was very producers
throw a nine, right, and it's reduced to just a
couple of minutes on TV. You know, you know, it's
kind of like, well, I'm don't care who's going to
(17:42):
read it, right, right, So kind of back to doing
that though, because when we have that do have a
actual impact, right to things such as me or maybe
there's a national security shirt an object scene over an
(18:04):
air base, right, So those world impacts and so you
have to go back to again committing it and investigating
it like a crime scene, very similar parallel, they're not
so much in the ghost world, although there's some groups
who are pretty good and have a client, you know,
(18:24):
like a home or business, and they do commit So
I'd say that's kind of like the bigggest is that
you're preparing to take something to court, you know, crime scene.
And like I said that, the repercussions would be if
that solve the crime, someone goes to jail, who are
(18:47):
you going to.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Put in jail with?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
You know, our normal investigations, you might solve something whe
taxing something, but they're not going to jail.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
So there there's a big.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Words and and uh so Jamie and the chat room
also this is a different question, but uh it's kind
of jumping back to strange and suspicious. Apparently Jamie got
to see it, which like I said, I have not,
I'm going to watch it this weekend, so uh you
(19:23):
can't hold hold and hold that against me. Uh but
uh on some of the some of the topics that
they discussed, it's like what could you give us some
background and what was or how you researched on the
the show itself, and what were some of the topics
that were your favorite to touch on?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So the question is how I'm sorry the first part,
how does? How does? What? With the kid?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So? So what for the topics itself? What what were
some of the favorite topics that you discussed and searched on?
And and also what were some of the topics that
you did discuss and how were they? I guess from
my side of it, how were they discussed? How were
they picked? Did they already come to you with the
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subjects or did they Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Both.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
They kind of looked to me to be the the
UFO I got it again. I hate the word expert,
but so well connected to those stories and things that
come my way.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
So right, so I've rolling.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Directly to me their UFO videos and then I'll send
some of those to the producers over The producers are
also the whole team of people looking for usual stories.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Sending to them.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Sometimes they would have one particular person take the loop
because you're you're kind of the expert on our can
you look further into this? And uh, you mathematician, so
can you look into stuff like explain more of this part?
So that's what what was really quote, and then you
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had some LAPD forms who were homicide detectives and some
of the actually because they don't ever spend a lot
of time myself of crime, but these unsolved murders and
you know, possible serial killers. And so when you really
(21:30):
dive into it and see some investigations that seemed to
be really.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Botched in the world do they come to.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
These conclusions to be found and it's not like I
think crime's there, but you kind of kick the audience
and say, hey, don't you think someone should take a quote.
This one in particular was this one we'll probably heard
of where the the husband was I think they're going
(22:00):
through marital problems. They're there in the hot tub, they
had some discussion or something. She goes back inside and
she went her time, and then she was found on
the stairs. Husband you know, calls nine one one. The
door I think was closed and everything. But the whole
(22:24):
theory now was that he didn't They thought that he
took the fire what do they call those that you
bogs with your fireplace stick? Yeah, the poker start the
poker stick. Yeah, thought that he took that and attacked her.
(22:45):
But there wasn't a blood or anything on the thing,
and someone the theory that maybe.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
It was an owl.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Right, she actually had little feathers, you know, in her
hair that probably came for a mile, and yet we
never heard if they tested it for an owl. And
there were scrape marks in the shape of like talons,
you know, and it's like maybe she went outside in
her hair and started she's like fighting with it, losing
(23:16):
blood and then she tries and falls down, and I'm like,
it is strange sounds, I argue in that segment that
be possible, because you know, I do know. I think
the falconer and the marks that were laughed and it's
really weird.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
No, that is really really weird and weird. And I
what I find weird is, you know, with human beings
were so wrapped up in things we don't know. It's
instead of that, we we focus on the things we
do know, and we just you know, try to go
after everything that we know.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
But yet we always want to know more.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We We're like a cat, you know, we we have
to you know, why serial killers, you know, kill all
these people?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Why the UFOs?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And it's it fascinates me because I'm the same way
I could sit and watch a true crime, serial killer
movie all you know, documentaries all day or UFO or
Ancient Egypt or and it's it's fascinating. That why we're
so fascinating.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
If it's a survival.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Thing, maybe maybe it seems a bit morbid be bond
to it. Maybe it's like our innate and say like, well,
I want to make sure that doesn't happen to me.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
True, so I want to learn about this, right maybe.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Maybe or how to or how to be a serial killer?
Who knows, Well, we have some people that want to
know about UFOs, and you know, because we talk a
lot about that, and like I said, next week through
October it's all going to be ghosts and spirits because
it's going to be the Halloween season. So this might
(25:06):
be one of the last times for a few months
we talked about UFOs. And so the question is is,
how do you think the recent congressional hearings on UFOs
and UAPs will shape the future of UFO research and
public perception? Your personal opinion? What do you think?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I'd say, just because the motive the motive guessing this
just because we haven't heard anything for a while, it isn't.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
There.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I believe there's going to be more hearings. Floodgates could
possibly break open. The more, you know, perhaps government video
those you know, maybe people will leak more stuff. Right,
I think some of it's going to be released, and
(25:58):
I think it's personally become undeniable that the government's already
said some explained. So I'm not saying that it's actual,
but I think it's gonna convince more and more people.
You can't just have prosaic explanations for all of this,
so how does that change investigations are going to go forward.
(26:20):
I think they're going to start reaching out kind of
enlisting the the the general public's help in doing some
of this, but mainly through reporting. There are bases we
just don't have the best quality, you know, content that's
(26:40):
been captured by cameras.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And stuff coming out.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
You're going to see the milit tarrifitting their their jets
with cameras that can capture the name and and then
who knows yours here things could really start rolling.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And do you think, uh, like maybe a next big
breakthrough or revelation what what in the study of UFO
and paranormal what what do you think is kind of
the next big breakthrough will be.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I think, well, in the UFO world, I think the
next thing it's going to have to happen official confirmation
that the government or parts probably have known more than
than they're letting because this point, you know, they're they're
basically just getting caught and saying like no or had
(27:35):
an investigative group. Okay, well you found that we did,
you know, And now it's like they're crass retrievals. But
yet the witnesses are secondhand witnesses. So baby, they'll get
some people coming to incredible evidence that they've had a
crash retrieval program.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
M hm. So I think that'll kind of be the
next big step, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
And and also not to leave out ghosts, your tax
dollars have gone to pay for study, you know that
when they were looking example for Robert Bigelow's you know
skin walker right right and stuff where they were paying
money to test theories and wormholes exes and you know,
so is there government's gone towards some of this?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And I know, I know you got to get out
of here soon. So we do have another question, and
I think this is a good one. Is there is
looking back at your career or looking forward in your
career too, is there something that you wished you would
have researched or is there something that you really want
to work on next?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Because Ben has done pretty much everything you can think
of when it comes to investigating UFOs and paranormal and
even true touching on true crime and even the sky is.
I mean, he gives a great sky presentation, which I
think stargazing. You guys, if you ever have a chance
to go see him at some of these conferences, you
(29:06):
should sit down and just listen to him speak.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
So, but.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Going forward or even backwards, is there something you wish
you would have, you know, been a part of, or
is there something that you're looking forward to being a
part of or maybe want to work on that hasn't
been discovered yet or hasn't been solved yet.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I think we're living in really exciting times. I actually
try to do the opposite. I've tried to get away
from it. I never thought that I would be in this,
you know, And you know, sometimes my family's like, hey,
why don't you get a normal job, Why don't you.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Go work for somebody else? Right, you have a regular
salary again, and all this.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
And I'm like, well, I'm not opposed to that, but
then I get sucked back in.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You know, it's usually a TV showers and so I
kind of keep it.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
But I do think there's a potent to actually do
this now that government, you know, is starting to come
forward and take it serious to help people do their
jobs better, and you kind of have to look at
again going back as a national security issue. That's how
(30:26):
they get there, right, So when Congress and everybody is
pushing for the truth, you know, are we in the
threat here?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I do think there's some dangers.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
There's the flight safety, there's dangers with we can't control
our airspace.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
We don't know who's flying no bases.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
We don't know who's turning off our nukes, right, so
I think there's a threat, so to speak. But when
there's a threat, you know they're gonna put money for it.
In my goal, I guess, because the question is like
what do I see in my future?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
It'd be really cool to be able.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
To to to kind of keep up and help lead
that converstate where it's gonna go politically, because they're big
social impacts involved here. You know, we're writing papers on
this stuff right now. Hopefully you know at some point,
because there are things that people to start thinking about.
(31:25):
And and for most people it's just the novels, dude,
but you know, pretty soon it might become something.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And one thing again, I'm gonna keep praising you a
little bit. One thing I really appreciate you for is
your your your bias.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
You you you.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Really want to do a neutral you go into it
as a neutral party, uh, and do the investigation where
many not saying I'm not gonna name names, but there
are a lot of people out there that just doing
this for fame. You know, I have to say, you know,
they're they they're being part of a project or doing
things that are really just doing it for fame. And
and Ben is definitely somebody that's putting the work in
(32:08):
doing the investigation before he opens his mouth. And so
I really appreciate you doing that. I mean, that's thank you.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Of course, it'd be nice if I ever can help
pay the bills, and I can solely that's the point. Now,
it's fun to do TV shows, but as behind the scenes,
it might be helping to do TV shows, but I
don't I don't necessarily need to be on call. You know,
(32:40):
if you really enjoy the sect and what you're doing
and if you're making a difference, then what I care about.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And it's not for me. What I'm saying is it's
not about Uh. I've seen many people they read somebody
else's book and then they become the expert off somebody
else's research. And so you're not like that. You do
your research to present that to the audience, which I
appreciate more. Which it's not the fame of being on
(33:08):
a television show. There's nothing wrong with that, you know,
or a podcast or.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Whatever you're doing.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
But it's for me, it's it's about doing the work
and really doing the research and learning for yourself how
to how to you know, display that to our audience.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
And I have to say.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
That's something that you know a lot of people should
if they're going to get into this. Don't do it
saying I want to be famous. Do it because I'm
passionate about the work and I'm passionate about getting out
the the correct information to the audience. So that's and
that's what I want to do. I want to try to,
you know.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Build the.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
A core group of people that really can bring the
the information to the audience and and they can walk
away going I want to I want to be I
want to do that. I want to go out in
the field and learn. So but Ben, you are amazing.
I I can't wait to see again. I I know
you have an event coming up I believe next week.
(34:03):
Is it a phenomenon or something like that you're going
to be at.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah, heading up to vernal Utah, which is just like
yes or less from Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So it's kind of like the.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
It's I don't know that. I think they're in their
three year or so that it keeps growing. I hear
it's a really big conference. I mean that's because you
have the Skinwalker Ranch cap, you have blind Frog Ranch,
you know, and all the stuff that happens there in
you and a basin. It's like probably some tickets left,
(34:40):
but it's when through Saturday.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So it's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Are you going to do any stargazing or just more
of a speaker?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Not this year?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
They I think if they have me back, they want
to add that I'm bringing some stuff. Yeah for sure,
because I got a friend who has literally right next
door to Skinwalker Oh.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
My god, that would be amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yeah, I don't Brandon Fugel is going to be out
there this you know, if he's he ever's gone out,
but he's invited numerous times and we just haven't linked
up to go over actual ranch.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
But even well, I want to go on an investigation
with you one of these days. So I'm going to
invite myself one of these days and say, Ben, I'm going.
So let's do it, all right, Well, people go to
Ben Hanson dot com check out all the information what's
he's going to be doing, and what TV shows he's
(35:36):
going to be on, and what other investigations he's working on. So,
but Ben, thank you so much for being part of
Truth Be Told again.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Thank you, Thanks Tony, all right, take.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Care man, and everybody, thank you for joining in. We
really appreciate you. Every Friday right here at three o'clock,
starting next week is going to be the beginning of
Halloween season, so it's time to get those goos and
goblins out and the everything is gonna be scaring us,
the scary songs, music and everything else. So I hope
(36:06):
you tune in for us. It's gonna be great, and
I hope you guys join us again, but until next time,
I'm Tony Sweet with Truth be Told and don't forget.
You have Robert Hensley on Monday with Men Report, you
have Bonnie Burkert on Wednesday with Truth be Told Transformation,
and then of course me every Friday. Take care, guys.
This has been another episode of Truth Be Told. Thank
(36:29):
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