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December 5, 2025 52 mins
In this eye-opening episode, former Marine jet pilot, filmmaker, and author M.D. Selig joins Tony to reveal the hidden forces shaping our world—both earthly and extraterrestrial. Drawing from his military experience, top-secret intelligence exposure, and years of deep research, Selig uncovers why what he witnessed in the skies during Desert Storm never matched the classified reports… or what the public was told.

Together, we dive into Selig’s groundbreaking book HUSH, exploring covert agendas, UFO recoveries, alien civilizations, multidimensional consciousness, psychological manipulation, and the mysterious rise of a “New Earth” he believes is already underway. Selig also shares why he thinks a major contact event could occur by 2027, and how humanity’s vibration and intuition may be the key to navigating what’s coming next.

If you’re fascinated by UFOs, deep-state secrecy, spiritual awakening, hidden history, or the future of human evolution—this episode will challenge everything you think you know.

Listen in and prepare to see the world differently.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, welcome back to Truth Be Told. I'm Tony Sweet,
and today's guest is a former marine jet pilot, a filmmaker,
and author of an explosive new book called Hush MD. Seligue.
During desert storm Sea, Leigue witness first hand how what
he saw in the sky, what he read in top
secret intelligence, and what the public was told on many

(00:22):
news outlets never matched up. That discovery launched him into
years of deep research into UFOs, covert operations, alien races,
in the hidden mechanism shaping our world. In this episode,
Seelige reveals how he belies humanity has been influenced by
advanced beings for decades, why malevolent forces are losing their

(00:43):
grip when what sources say could happen by twenty twenty seven.
We explore telepathy, consciousness, psychological manipulation, and the rising New Earth,
which he believes is already in motion. If you've ever
felt like we're on the edge of something big, this
conversation may confirm it. Well, let's dive in I'm Tony

(01:04):
Sweet with Truth Be Told. Please welcome to the Truth
Be Told Studios for the first time. Author former marine
jet pilot filmmaker M. D. Selig. Well, well, well from
the seas to the land. So we have MD. Selig
celig correct perfect. I loved it. I'm sure you get

(01:28):
a misspelling once in a while.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's all good.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, I'm excited to have you here with Truth Be Told.
We talk about so many different things, and this amazing
book book that you have out, Hush kind of fits
the narrative of Truth Be Told, has a little bit
of everything from controversy to conspiracy, to UFOs to the

(01:54):
deep State. And I kind of want to dive in
to talk a little bit about your military experience because
I think people that are entrenched in the UFO world
and even ghosts, you know, most people have experienced something

(02:15):
sure to get them motivated to do more research to
write books. So let's dive in and say, MD, what
is your military experiences for the people that may not
have heard about you, and how it can tie into
Hush You bet.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So. The concise version is I came out of college
with a history degree from the University of Arkansas. I
went right into flight training for the Marines, which is
essentially Navy flight training. So you go to Pensacola and
you're basically with Navy guys for in my case about
the next two years of jet training. I was selected
for jets Wow. And then eventually depending on your jet

(02:55):
training and what the billets they need to fill for
when you're graduating, you then I mean I went through
carrier training obviously because I'm going through Navy flight training,
so I learned how to land on aircraft carriers in
an old jet now called the A four Skyhawk, which
a lot of folks will still be familiar with. And

(03:15):
then to was selected to fly A six Intruders, which
is a two seat attack jet and it's also an
all weather attack jet, so I flew that in Desert Storm.
My squadron was basically right when I got to my
gun squadron in nineteen ninety which was in Cherry Point,
North Carolina. A Marine gun squadron, it just means the

(03:38):
main squadron that you're going to go actually perform your
pilot duties. My squadron was sent overseas. We then were
the last squadron to arrive at the Desert Storm operation
in nineteen ninety one. We arrived early January, and I
think the war started January eleventh, and from there it

(03:59):
was just a function for me, and this is I'll
conclude this with how I got to Hush. I'm writing
the novel. I was flying missions, so I knew what
I was doing on my own obviously, and then I
would come back and I at that time, I was
the squadron intelligence officer, so I was reading all the

(04:21):
top secret traffic that was coming through, not only for
our squadron, but worldwide. So intelligence officers for all squadrons
are reading what's coming through, and sometimes it's it's sent
directly here squadron for whatever reason. But I was reading
all the traffic because of the war that was I
was participating in. And then I was going to dinner

(04:42):
at night in the officer's mess hall, which was just
like a think of a small costco. It's just a
big warehouse and you know, long tables, but we had
a huge, big screen TV of all things in nineteen
ninety one. We'll CNN on it. So I'm getting three
kind of antennas. I'm getting the of what I'm doing
physically flying these combat missions. I'm reading the top secret

(05:06):
traffic coming through not only for our squadron but worldwide.
So I'm trying to piece this together, like why is
none of this traffic, traffic mentioning what I'm doing, and
then I'm watching CNN and none of that is making sense.
It's not concurring. None of the three antennas were concurring.
So I just had a sense then that something there

(05:28):
was a bigger mechanism happening. Wow. Fast forward to I
finished my tour as a pilot, which is an eight
year tour. You have to stay in longer as a
pilot because they've spent so much money training you. So
I did my eight year tour, I got out and
went immediately to LA. I've always been writing, so I've
been a storyteller. I knew I was going to go
into film and music after flying. I love the flying,

(05:49):
but I didn't want to just go fly commercial jets.
It's like going from a race car to a bus.
I couldn't do that. So I went to LA and
began writing and directing and producing. I had a show
called Southern Justice that was on Netflix and Showtime in
two thousand and six. My current sci fi pilot is

(06:13):
on Amazon Prime. It's called The gun Runner Billy Kane.
But I also wrote for other production companies so I
would get hired because they liked my writing. I was acting.
I was in like zero Dark thirty, so I was
just doing anything to do with storytelling. And about four
years ago I realized, oh, I now have enough information

(06:38):
from studying because the whole thing that had occurred during
the war just ate at me like there is.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Something so it lived on in your soul.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
It lived on. There was something. I just knew, A
bigger mechanism was twisting the world. I just knew. It
wasn't the American government or the American military. It just
everything that that was hitting me felt like it was
a I don't know, like a a bigger mechanism and
a darker mechanism. And so in pursuing everything that I could,

(07:08):
I started to get into covert events like Roswell. So
Hush is essentially I mean, I'm telling it from a
fictional standpoint, but your listeners can pretty much if they
study alien history at all, whether it's Roswell or alien

(07:29):
events from abductions to the Secret Space Program to just
all of it, they'll find that it's pretty intensely researched.
I'm an insane. My friends will tell you, like, just
stay away from him when he's researching because he's nuts, Like,
I pull it from every angle. I go to every interview,
I go to every book, I go to every video
I can find before a scene kind of develops, and

(07:53):
then once it develops, I splat it on the page.
And so hush is your covert history from about nineteen
forty up to up through roswell into the mid fifties
where Eisenhower is taking office.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
And I'm sure that's going to leave open for many
books afterwards. There's a lot of years in between. Well,
your book does open up with a very eerie sense
that something unseen is manipulating events that behind the scenes.
And like you said, you've seen it, you saw the differences.

(08:28):
If you had to describe the first warning sign humanity
is missing right now, the hidden, the one hidden in
plain sight, what would you just what would you say
it would be?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's a great question. Let me sit with that for
a split second. Fine, Okay, okay, here comes both barrels.
You have aliens all around you. And America has been
in space, not not America, like the government, I should say,
the world has been in space since the mid fifties.

(09:03):
We have fleets in space. You literally have aliens walking
among us within the Earth exo everywhere, and there are
alien races watching what's unfolding right now. And the final
thing I'll say is, by twenty twenty seven, I'm pretty

(09:25):
sure from all my sources, you will have a contact
event that is coming. Nothing to fear at all. Yeah,
but that's what's occurring well here.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
I always said this, If aliens extra trestials from many
different galaxies and universes and planets wanted to take us over,
why not two hundred years ago when we had a
thousand years when we had no type of weapons that
could even attempt to compete with them. So I if

(10:01):
you know, when I hear people say, oh, they could
come and take it, I'm like they would have taken
us over a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
That's exactly right, Tony.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
And the.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Kind of short answer to all that is they don't
want to take us over. They want to use us
for our capabilities. They want us alive. But they also
and I'm only referring to the malevolent alien group that
has kind of set all this up. I'll name them
the Draco Reptilians. They were here before we evolved on
the planet. They knew we were evolving on the planet

(10:32):
and they wanted to control us from the get go.
They are still here, but they're they're kind of having
to leave now because of what's occurring, not only with
the planet but with help from some benevolent races that
are around us. The literal frequency of Earth. So I
call her Sofia, other people call her guy. It doesn't matter.
She's rising, she's blooming, and what's occurring is because of

(10:54):
her vibrational frequency rising, the malevolent entities that are here
literally can't physically stay in that frequency. They have to depart.
So by twenty twenty seven there may be a last
grasp attempt by the malevolent aliens to take what they can.
I'm just saying, stay with your heart, yeah, don't use

(11:17):
your head when you're confronted with things. You'll be fine.
There's absolutely nothing to worry about. You are a multi
dimensional being made of love. You have nothing to worry about.
You are literally more powerful than any The aliens will
the advanced aliens will say, you guys are complete royalty,

(11:37):
like your capabilities are beyond all other races. It's we're
that incredible as humans literally coming from love. That's it.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
In fact, I work with. I produce a podcast called Sharvision.
She's a psychic and she's been doing her psychic abilities
for over fifty years. You know, she's in her seventies now,
and she never really touched on UFOs extraterrestrials until the
last about five to six months. And she says, I

(12:09):
do not know why, but I feel there's a new
Earth coming. I feel it already happening, and I feel,
she goes, things will get a little rocky, but in
the end it'll be fine. And I've worked with her
for ten years and I've never heard her talk like

(12:31):
this before. And she says, this is what she's getting now,
this is her her visions. Her communication is from these
aliens saying it's going to be fine, and this is
the new beginning for us. So, yeah, it's kind of
what you're saying, and I'm excited about it.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, she's exactly right, and she's getting that information from
sources that you and I can't define. It doesn't mean
that it's not true, right, but I can tell you
that she's not the only one. That it's coming from
the plethora of races, benevolent races that are here watching

(13:17):
this unfold.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
In your earlier chapters, there are some very strong undercurrent
of psychological manipulation and unseen influences. What inspired you to
explore the idea that our thoughts and decisions might not
truly be ours?

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Sure, So I was trying to figure out number one,
and this is you know, if you read Hush or
listen to the audible, you'll you're basically experiencing my experience
through my protagonist, who's a female physicist. But it's her
coming to realize, oh my goodness, I've been deceived my

(13:58):
entire life, like there are things all around me that
are beyond human science, but I could never acknowledge them,
and I've always told those things weren't real. But then
she's confronted with something that she just can't deny, and
then as the story unfolds, she very quickly learns that,
oh my goodness, there's this whole other actuality around me.

(14:21):
So what occurred for me personally in starting to really
heavily research the alien presence thing from even from the forties,
I started to have that feeling of my goodness, I've
been taken, and I'm a pretty smart fella, and I
have been completely you know I got yanked and I

(14:47):
and you know, you go through the five stages of
grief or first you once you start to realize what
might be actually around you, which certainly and uh, you're
going to find out a lot of what's actually around you.
But I'll tell you this, I touched the surface in hush.
I am telling you what's around you is exciting, It's
very complex, you're actual. I'm just saying this is my

(15:13):
call on this. What's around you is perhaps much more
complex than you can even imagine, but in wonderful ways.
And we're essentially being welcome to the galactic community, and
it's happening most likely in the next two years. It's

(15:33):
an exciting time. There's nothing to fear. But I will say,
make sure that you start going inside because the races
that are here communicate not through this, through this, that
communicate when you open your heart to love. All I
can say is get quiet each day, turn off your

(15:54):
technology for five or ten minutes, like your little piece
of sage, create your little ritual, and open your heart.
Wild stuff, wild, wonderful stuff is happening. But if you
want to step into who you are and really find
out just a scratching the surface of your capabilities. Try

(16:18):
going inside. Turn off CNN, turn off all of the news,
turn off all of the things that you think are
informing you, because that's here, and I'll promise you it's incorrect.
It's someone else's narrative.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
In fact, that I was going to ask a question
about that, because I feel that we've been lied to
about our history, not only in America, I mean even
when we were kids. I'm fifty, I'll be fifty six
in a couple of days, so learning about you know,
Native Americans, and certain things have happened in our past

(16:53):
that you know, many want to deny, and our a
lot of our leaders don't want us to know the truth.
And it goes clear back to thousands of years ago,
even when religion started, uh, you know, and probably even
before that in Egypt, where you know, the pharaohs were
lying to their the slaves, and probably even before that

(17:13):
with a non a nak's and so many different things,
right exactly. But what you're mentioning about, if you use this,
you know, there's several passages in the book that hint
manipulation through emotion, memory, and subconscious influence. Do you did
do you, did you research psychological operations or MK ultra

(17:37):
type programs while writing this, because it's so all of
it seems I was going to say, it seemed like
it very similar.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah. So the writing of the book was three years. Wow.
Most of that for me, because I'm a pretty fast writer.
When scenes start to come, they'll they'll split out. I
kind of vomit them on the page, and then I
have to walk away and listen to it, you know,
and then start maybe doing some editing. But for the
way I write is I have to research kind of

(18:07):
insanely to where I start to see if I'm researching
Saya Roswell and I'm researching a piece of Roswell. Let's
say the first contact event at Monday at seventeen hundred
hours on July seventh, nineteen forty seven, when some aliens
are brought in on litters. Most four were dead, one
was alive in front of Colonel Blanchard, who was the

(18:28):
base commander at the time, and literally America is having
it's In this case, it would be the second contact event,
but it was the first contact event for these army individuals.
When I research something like that, I have to have
so much information before the scene starts to form inside
of me of how I'm going to write that scene

(18:49):
because I want to write it usually from a first
person perspective of who might be in the room. So
in this case, one of my characters is in Hangar
P three, which is also called Hangar eighty four at
five pm on July seventh, nineteen forty seven, when these
five stretchers are brought in. There's a video of it.
You can go to my Patreon site and see the

(19:11):
video footage. Yes, it's our first contact event at Roswell.
But the reason I say that is I can only
kind of get something on the page once. I just
have so much dynamic information that I can then go, Okay,
now it feels alive to me, and then I'll write it.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
I love when we so many people think that Roswell
or these type of events haven't happened. I mean, if
you think about nineteen forty seven when we recovered the
aircraft or a spacecraft, how our technology went and grew

(19:56):
so fast within ten fifteen twenty years, it was almost
unimaginable to think that that human brains just said, oh yeah,
we'll come up with this concept to enhance us by
ten thousand percent. What is your thoughts on that when

(20:16):
it comes to as a pilot to see our technology
grow so fast after the Roswell event.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Right, that's right, Tony. The other thing to remember is
you're pointing out the Roswell ships, and what I'm trying
to say also is remember that's the ship that in
this case, it's it's three alien ships crashed that weekend
with from two different alien races. But just remember that's

(20:49):
only at Roswell. There were many other recoveries prior to Roswell,
like Cape Girardo nineteen forty one, the battle Right La
and forty two where we got two saucers in the ocean,
one at San Bernardino, San Bernardino. So these reversed technology
studies have been going on, I mean for long before Roswell,

(21:15):
and you're right, all of that technology has come forward.
So when you have you know, lights inside of wires,
that's all from those ships. When you have nuclear generators
that create a TR three B from Grummand in nineteen sixty,

(21:36):
that's reverse engineered technology. The TR three B has been
flying daily from Accord Area fifty one daily to the
lunar operations command since the early sixties. I'm telling you
all of that technology is from crashed alien ships that
have been reverse engineered, and we can't even reverse engineer them.

(21:58):
So the TR three B is not what I call
a living conveyance. It's not as advanced as the alien
ships that arrived and landed. Those ships are brainwave connected
to their pilots. The pilots literally put their hands in
like an impression, and they're brainwave connected. So if you're
not the pilot for that ship and you put your

(22:19):
hands in there, nothing's going to happen. The ship literally
knows who you are. It's created from nuclear molecular nanotechnology.
It's half human half or half biological half machine, and
it literally these advanced alien races fly their ships via
brainwave connection, and many of the Secret Space program personnel

(22:41):
have watched this in person, like that's the way the
really advanced races do it. And so yes, we have
taken the best parts of that technology that we can
at least understand and created some ships that were able
to We're clearly off planet and have been for many years,
but our ships are still you know, we're still catching

(23:02):
up technology wise.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
One thing that are two things that I find difference
in between extraterrestrials, at least in twenty twenty five and
before with this New world as char would call it, Well,
one big difference is we may be able to maybe

(23:25):
not catch up to their technology, but we you know,
enhanced ours. But it's the mental. It's not even that
our connection through our mind, like you said, not being
able to communicate just verbally, but through our mind. With
this New world and your research that you've done with

(23:50):
with Hush, when do we develop this telepathy telepathy more right,
just verbal because that's one of the biggest things. Like
you said, that ship was connected to that.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Pilot, so I talked about as you go inside, you
are literally when you allow the heart to start. Because
what we've forgotten is humans. This is again from all
my research and from my own personal experience. The more
I get out of this and I open this, I

(24:27):
notice things come. I won't try to describe what comes,
but I can promise you this. It's accessible to everyone.
Telepathy has to do with raising your vibrational frequency. Aliens
that use telepathy will be able to communicate with you.
You don't have to learn it. There's nothing to learn.
It's about this getting out of this, and all humans

(24:53):
have the capability. It is something that will kind of
naturally occur in what's coming right away here, kind of.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Like we probably used to have three fingers, and evolution
end up making us have five. I want to talk
about deep state because that was an early theme in
your book, and I want to know how much of
in your book Hush is fiction and how much was

(25:22):
influenced by real world classified programs and historical cover ups.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Sure, So, like I said, I write from a fictional
standpoint because I find really good story is more compelling
to read. If I'm reading a story that's just hard
facts and an author trying to boost those facts and
say I know this is a fact, it gets a
little dry. So my background is writing screenplays, right, which

(25:54):
have to be kind of rich and full, and they're
generally fiction, right, almost always unless it's a documentary, And
even then you're still writing fiction based on fact. So
I find that if I can write a fictional story
that is based on literally the best factual evidence that
I can find, then I'm able to write details that

(26:14):
anybody who knows about those coverd events, say Cape Girardo
or Roswell or any of that stuff. They're going to go, oh,
my gosh, he's naming mac Brazil in the story. He's
naming Eisenhower, and Eisenhower's in an armed convoy and doing this,
and wow, this is interesting. And here's what Ike's thinking
in the story. Right, So I'm getting into the first

(26:36):
person of historical characters, but I'm obviously having to write
what I'm thinking Eisenhower might be feeling on his way
to meet his first alien right. And so but I
can I can tell you that if you research enough
about any individual, right, if you research Eisenhower or Ronald
Reagan or or you know, whoever you want to, you

(27:01):
start to have a sense of them as a human,
kind of the way their emotions roll. You know that
if you're around Frank Sinatra, he had a mobster side, right,
he could get really violent, but he could also be
an amazing crooner and singer.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
So you can research somebody enough to pretty well write
kind of roughly what they may have done in any
given instance, right, because you've read about their friends and
the way they said, Oh, Frank would just throw pipe
plates across the room and he'd get a baseball of
that out and just break stuff when he was mad,
you know, and you're like, okay, no, that's significant. Most

(27:37):
people don't do that, you know, But he was Frank Sinatra, right. So,
And I'm not saying Frank's bad or good. What I'm
saying is that the research for any individual, especially if
they're historical, there are so many side people to let's
say Eisenhower, there's so many assistants and stuff who write
about him that pretty soon you have a pretty good

(27:57):
sense of like, this is kind of that character, and
I can write him now, right. So that's been my experiences.
You can really if you're reading Hush, you're going to
have a pretty good idea if I wrote it anyway,
I can't write it until I feel that character, before
I can write them, before I can get into their head.
And and as you're reading the book, you're in you're

(28:22):
hearing and reading the thoughts of Eisenhower as he's about
to land at Roswell and he knows he's about to
see an alien and so and I don't want to
give too much from the book away, but you'll you'll
have a very good sense of like, yeah, wow, nineteen
forty seven, this is all new to everybody, and he's
not even the president at that point. He's working for
Harry Truman in nineteen forty seven, so you know, he's

(28:43):
already the supreme Allied commander. He's finished the war in
forty five, the atomic Bama's gone off, and he's now
going to an event that no one's ever been to.
He's going to meet a live alien, like, oh my goodness,
right in secret, complete, complete secrecy.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
So that's that's pretty amazing. I I wish they recorded
something like that. I'm sure maybe they did, but you know,
I'm sure the film is beyond classified if that, if that.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Is, One of these days, maybe we'll be lucky enough
they'll open the Alien Museum. I doubt it, but one
of these days, maybe we'll get to see some of
that footage.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I know in your book there was a repeated sense
of like signals, frequencies, coded cues that affected some of
the characters, or maybe majority of the characters. But was
this inspired by real science or just possibilities?

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah? So so from what I understand from research, this
is not only from secret Space Program personnel who have
been out, you know, interacting with aliens, but from abductees
who have been you know, who have told about their encounters.
There's just volumes of information from from so many people
who have been eat abducted, or had encounters with aliens,

(30:02):
or been in space with aliens, as many Americans and
Worldwide Space Program personnel have been. They will all tell
you that the aliens will basically say every person is
a sound and a frequency. So you're a frequency and
a color, and the frequency can be thought of as
a sound like it. The frequency can be so detailed
that they can track any entity anywhere in the multiverse.

(30:29):
So it's that defined, and that's a known thing within
the multiverse that anybody can be tracked anywhere because they
have a It's just like think of yourself as a
decimal out to the billionth degree that your individual consciousness
is that defined by all the super advanced races. They

(30:50):
can track anyone anywhere. And so in the book, I
try to allude to how in this case the cabal
can find somebody, or an alien group can find somebody.
Maybe they're tracking an individual they keep abducting, and one
of the characters that maybe says, how can they keep

(31:11):
finding her? And that has to do with the frequency
and color of each individual that they can track anywhere
in the multiverse. It's not a gigantic thing for them.
It's like we now have, you know, technologies that allow
us to track any individual, especially if they're carrying electronics. Right.

(31:36):
But take it to the next level when we're more advanced,
will literally be able to track them via their consciousness
via frequency and color and sound.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
That's pretty amazing. I did remember one character, like I said,
and I'm curious before I talk about him. These characters.
Are they all based on people that you knew? Or
did you make majorities up? Because I want to do so.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
If they're a history that's a good question. If they're
a historical character like Eisenhower, obviously I didn't know Eisenhower,
but those are heavily researched. If it's a character that
I bring in that you don't recognize the name, that's
a character that I've made up that fills that particular role.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
So I won't give away too much of the book.
But there's a character in the book who began the
Navajo code talkers. He was an army officer. He was
a white guy and grew up on the Navajo reservation
learning to speak Navajo as a kid. He then had
the idea when the war started that he approached a
general and said, hey, you're looking for a code that

(32:47):
can be used in the battlefield that the enemy cannot decipher.
I can speak Navajo, and because there's no written alphabet,
if I'll say a few lines for you and if
you like it, we can start a a code talkers
group called the Navajo Code Talkers, which was eventually formed.
It was considered one of the big successes that helped

(33:08):
us win the war, and it remained a secret operation
until ten years after the war because there is no
written alphabet of Navajo, so you have to learn to
speak it. And so the Navajo code talkers were formed
and they could be on the battlefield and send out
signals saying the enemy is doing this, that and the other,
and the enemy could not decode that ever, and that

(33:30):
helped us with the Japanese and the Germans and just
the Navajo co talkers became a thing. So that's one
of the characters in my book that you'll find it
was kind of fun now.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I remember watching a documentmentary about that, and I found
it so fascinating how important.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
It was that we right because we broke the Japanese code.
So once you break the code, you know, we knew
the Japanese movements before they made their moves during the war.
So we had broken the Japanese code and that allowed
us to defeat them in so many venues because we
knew what their next movement was going to be. Right.

(34:13):
But if you can keep it, you know, hidden, then
you have so much more advantage.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Right as most people that are watching, you're not watching,
You're listening on our Apple and all the other outlets.
You can kind of see behind me of it looks
like the Statue of Liberty. I want to ask you
about that. I want to ask you, you know, Statue

(34:41):
of Liberty is a national symbolism, and it's kind of
curious to why you decided to use this as the
cover of the book.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Sure so, I mean, at the end of the day,
you know, we we as and again this is just
as Americans. And I'll first say that the overall bend
that I have about this covert group that controls the
planet is above America. It's above all governments, you know,

(35:17):
British everything else. This is a group of it's the
Draco Reptilian. That is an alien group that literally has
run the planet since before we evolved, and they still do.
But what I'm getting at with the cover of hush
is there are also individuals involved in our particular government

(35:37):
that are aligned with and help with the evolution of
controlling the American population. To give you an idea, you're
never going to get anything from the congressional hearings. If
you're looking for some kind of disclosure on American television
on CNN, they're not going to say, hey, next week
on Eighth Street, we're going to open the Alien Museum

(35:58):
and they're going to get a seat ships and aliens
alive and dead. And here it comes. That's not going
to happen. And why wouldn't that happen. There's no agenda
for all of these groups who have been working in secret,
including you know, every military contractor out there, from Lockheed
Martin to Grumming to everybody else who's been reverse engineering projects.
They don't have any stake in the game to come

(36:20):
forward and say, hey, America, you know, we're really sorry.
We've we've been working on these ships since the forties.
We didn't want to tell you because that's you know,
they have been paid trillions and millions, and they're off
planet working on other in other solar systems. I mean,
these are worldwide military contractors who have been giving given

(36:43):
basically what's called secret access programs like the B two,
but their programs are the unacknowledged special access programs called
use apps, meaning you don't know about them. But they've
been in operation since the forties, building the TR three.
B's building all of the stuff that's reverse engineered, and

(37:05):
it's been going off planet and used in our secret
space program. There is no incentive. They could care less
about America or about the world. They are making a
fortune and continue to make a fortune. They could care
less about what any American thinks. So I'm just saying,
if you're looking for disclosure from Congress, set your sights

(37:27):
much higher. It's not the American government. It's not any
particular government. However, there are individuals within the American government
who are kind of the mouthpieces for what I call
the Cabal, this group that's above all governments, because you
have to have operatives within each government to control that
particular populace. So when I put the Statue of Liberty

(37:50):
on there and she's a little bit decrepit, and she's
you know, she has that look of it's kind of
gone awry. Well, unfortunately, there are people who are willing
to do what you and I might consider not the
right thing for our country. And those people who are

(38:12):
doing those things are controlled by these much higher mechanisms
that they're told to say what they say. I'll give
you an example about two or three years ago. Remember
we had all the UAP stuff coming off the carriers
and they're showing videos and oh my goodness, and everybody thinks,

(38:32):
oh wow, we're about to get disclosure. This is great,
it's all coming forward. Now fast forward two or three years.
Where did it all go. It's kind of just it
all went away because it's the narrative they want to
keep messing with you with. They're going to push that.
They play both sides, and they just keep you spinning
and you just think you're going to get disclosure and
then you get nothing. You don't even know about those ups,

(38:54):
don't You don't even have the original footage. That footage
was blurred.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
What I'm trying to you wonder.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
So I'm just saying, yeah, you're looking in the wrong direction.
If you're looking at congressional hearings at all to give
you disclosure, it's not going to occur. Disclosure is going
to be individual for each person. But I can tell
you this, there's a ton of stuff out there that
you can find out on your own and very quickly.

(39:23):
Within the next two or so years, I believe you're
actually going to have a contact event and disclosures coming,
kind of whether you want it or not.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
You're a great storyteller. That's why I understand how you're
a great writer and screenwriter and putting things together.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
You just it's very nice.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
No, it's true. I always say when you can imagine
sitting down and listen to your dad or grandpa tell
stories and you're set there the whole time they speak,
that's when you know it's a good storyteller. So I
appreciate that. I feel like many of us, I feel

(40:10):
like our leaders, world leaders or puppets. And you had
talked about just talked about that, and I think now
people are starting to go, who's the good guys? Who's
the bad guys? And I always think, these people that
want all this money and power, what do you do

(40:32):
with that? I'm trying to figure out what do you
do with that much power and money? And is it
going to fit with the extraterrestrials existence or do the
extraterrestrials They're like, we don't want these people of power.

(40:56):
We want the normal folk that are opening up their hearts,
are opening up their minds. What is your thoughts on
the hunger for the power and how does it work
with the disclosure that hopefully is coming in two years?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Right? So I always try to remember that no villain
considers themselves a villain. So we're all in our own
relative level. So if I'm used, let's just say I
run a distributor, a distribution company for let's say Walmart,
and I happen to be an independent contractor. So I'm

(41:39):
making pretty good money doing that. What do I get
off on? I get off on getting another client that
I can have my trucks deliver to. And that's fun
and I'm making more money and that feels good, and
that's just the way I roll. Right. So, when you're
an Elon Musk, or let's say you're a Rothschild or
you're a Rockefeller, what do you have fun with? You

(41:59):
have fun with owning every friggin bank on the planet,
and if you don't own it, how are you gonna
own it? And that's fun for you, right, So I
don't look at any of these characters per se and go, oh,
that person's evil or this, that and the other. I
know a lot of people like to get on the
hate train, but I think you have to understand that

(42:20):
when you sit in a situation where you own ninety
percent of the shares in the room and everyone's talking
about we're about to go to colonize the space station
right off of Jupiter, which is there, or we're going
to go have some meetings there. Well we can only
really take six representatives, but there's thirty people at the table. Well,

(42:45):
if you're Elon Musk, you're probably one of the six
that gets to go. That's fun, you know, if you're
Elon Musk, that's fun. You get to go and you
get to make deals for the planet, for the Earth,
and maybe a Rockefeller is there, and a Rothschild and
and you know, the King of England. My point is
is that I don't think those folks see themselves as villains.

(43:08):
They're just like, look, this is what I do. I roll.
I know how to sit at a table. I know
how to get things done. I know how if we
want to mine a planet that's a moon of Jupiter
or a moon in another solar system, I'm a good
person to negotiate that deal with an alien race. That's

(43:28):
who they are, right, And I'm not saying they're evil
or good. It's not my place to say that. What
I'm saying is you just have to understand that just
as Earth is complex, think of all our races, all
of our factions. Think of the Saudis, think of the Americans,
think of the British. We all do deals. What are
we doing deals for commerce? Because our country grows if

(43:50):
we can buy for pennies on the dollar something made
by Britain that's cheaper to make in Britain than it
is here. So we'll offer them a deal, like we'll
give if you a TR three B that might be
ten years old, but we'll give you one if you'll
give us something you got from the aliens. Right, It's
all about commerce and trade and upping the anti of

(44:11):
who you are and what power you can control. And
you know, in the best of worlds with humanity, the
our leaders will be thinking about how How is this
going to kill poverty? How is this going to help
everybody have the right medical tables here that can literally
solve most, if not all, of our medical issues. That

(44:33):
big pharma finally goes away because none of the other
alien races have that right. Okay, So my point is
that at the biggest levels, when you're talking about the
Elon Musks of the world, you know, you know about
his stuff of maybe taking a rocket ship to Mars,
what you're not aware of and what this is what

(44:53):
I say by disclosure is not going to happen for
you in that way. Elon Musk is providing tons of
military space vehicles and is trading in all kinds of
space oddities. And I'll just tell you this, our biggest
exports from our planet. Now this is the secret Space program.
Personnel who are out there involved in the trading process

(45:18):
are saying the three biggest art military technology that's exporting.
Because we make pretty amazing military technology. We have learned
a lot from the aliens. But what humans do is
they take it to the next level. The second commodity
that is our biggest is beer. Now this sounds funny,
but let me give you an example. Yeah, alien races.

(45:39):
Just think about this. A lot of them are are
kind of satisfied with the basic thing. Aliens like to
have a beer, so they'll make a beer, but they
never update it. They'll make a beer and it goes
out to their populace and the puppets is like, this
is great, We've got a beer. But then all of
a sudden they get an American beer. But what do
or a human beer? Let's it's a French beer. Whatever.

(45:59):
The point is, it's an earth a beer from Earth.
But what do humans do? We brew a beer and
then we're like, oh wait, I can brew a rasp
butteant stout, chocolate stout or peanut butter stuff, and and
that goes out on the inner space trade routes and
suddenly every planet's like, oh, we like the chocolate stout
from Earth. Right, it's a real thing. It is our

(46:21):
second largest export in space. That's what we are. We
are creative. We never stop going. I can make this
swing shot better. Yeah right.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Humans are incredible in so many ways. And one of
the ways that we're learning that the secret Space program
personnel will tell you, and that everyone who's involved in
the space of researching what we already do. The technology
that we have advanced even to now is very quickly.
Our weapons, our stuff that's now being used out in space,

(46:57):
on our ships, on our fleet in space is approaching
some of the best technology out there because we keep
upping the anti because that's who we are. We don't
stop when we get a half tasting beer and go,
well it makes me feel good and I'm done. No,
we create another beer that's better. We do the same
thing with military technology. We figure out a laser from

(47:20):
an alien race, then we go, okay, we know how
the laser works. Let's up. The anti alien races don't
necessarily do that. They find something that works and they'll
use it for millennia. We're not like that, and that's
one of the other amazing things about It's not just
with military technology. We're just creative individuals beyond being multi dimensional,

(47:44):
which we are now.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I'm no, I agree with you. I'm the same way
as an entrepreneur, as somebody that's always they say, add
I always say what can I do better? What can
I How do I approve this? And I've surprised my
self many times on what I can create, And back

(48:06):
last night, I was in the kitchen. I thought, you know,
I like these muffins, but how do I inside have.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
A little garlic?

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah? Yeah, right right, it wasn't so good. But no,
I agree, am I not?

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Right?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah? Unless you like garlic, But I agree. I agree.
Humans are very creative in with art and many different
technologies and just how we how we enhance everything.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
My latest sources are saying that basically in a thousand years,
we will literally be, if not the best, will be
at the very top of the technology realm. Now, I'm
not saying technology is the bomb, right, I'm saying this
right here is the bomb. This is our superpower. I'll

(48:58):
promise you that. Just you go to an electronics store
and you're bewildered for a while because it's so awesome.
There's so many cool things. But eventually you go home
and you realize, yeah, having all those electronics is fun.
But when I go inside, that's where I find the
ultimate contentment, the ultimate satisfaction. When you quit looking out

(49:19):
for something. Technology is an out thing. It can save
you in space, it can protect you, it can give
you some advantages. But this at the end of the day.
The ships in space that are run by advanced races
are being run from heart and they are the most
powerful races in space. And we are on that trajectory

(49:41):
and I'm telling you it's coming. And I'm just saying,
find out that you every one of us is a
superhero in the sense of just find yourself as love
in here, get away from technology. Each day at some point,
I'll just say, I recommend five minutes, just turn off
your phones, turn off all technology, go to your quiet space,

(50:05):
light a little sage, create a little ceremony for yourself
as love, and get quiet and don't try to open
your head or get quiet here. Just get quiet and
open your heart. And if you'll just do it, put
that as your number one thing you do. I can
tell you this, there will be molecular changes that you

(50:27):
will tangibly feel. It's that powerful.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Wow, that's that's pretty amazing. And I think that's a
great place to stop because I'm definitely going to have
to have you back and so we can even talk
more about the secret Space program, because you seem like
you have a lot of knowledge. And but first I
want people to go pick up this book. Hush. Where
where do people find this book?

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I am sure sure? So they can. They can find
all the links on my website, MDC League dot com
and then obviously the audible version and all of that
stuff is on Amazon. If you get the audible version,
you'll be able to hear the actual radio calls of
the Malaysian flight, which I help identify the CIA hijackers

(51:13):
on the flight, So you'll find some interesting stuff there.
And all I can say is, if you do read
the book, please give us a review, as we're all
trying to get this information out, this disclosure type information,
and if you give us a review, it moves us
up in the Amazon algorithms and that helps the book.
I mean, it's doing well. Fortunately, everybody's really helping out

(51:34):
with making it an international bestseller already. But it's the
reviews that change for all humanity, this thing that everyone
needs to know that is slowly coming out to the public.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah, we want to go from here to this to
buy that book, get that book because we want to
keep it on the best selling But MD thank you
so much for being here. Really appreciate it. You're you're
so great. You're you seem like you've taken classes on
interviews because you're you're very quick on your feet. Like

(52:09):
you said, you're smart.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
So it's been a pleasure to be here Tony. Anytime
you know, we'll come back and have another discussion.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Oh there's no question, So thank you everybody. Please go
out and pick up the book, go to Mdcleague dot
com and until next time, though, people, thank you so
much for tuning in and even for us. Make sure
you like, subscribe, leave reviews, leave comments because, like you said,

(52:38):
it helps with our algorithms and without you guys, we
wouldn't be here every Friday for the last sixteen years.
So but until next time, take care of yourself and
each other. Bye.
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