September 5, 2024 • 32 mins
A force in the global kirtan community for over a decade, Radhika Das has touched the lives of thousands worldwide, sharing his chant music and wisdom at renowned venues such as The British Museum and London's Union Chapel and gracing yoga studios and festivals worldwide.
His approach to mantra meditation intertwines harmonious music with enlightening philosophy. The experience Radhika offers elevates the vibrational energy to a crescendo, ultimately leaving his audience in a state of pure bliss, euphoria, and often culminating in ecstatic dance.
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His approach to mantra meditation intertwines harmonious music with enlightening philosophy. The experience Radhika offers elevates the vibrational energy to a crescendo, ultimately leaving his audience in a state of pure bliss, euphoria, and often culminating in ecstatic dance.
www.radhikadas.com
The Club Paranormal is a collective of multiple podcasts based in the paranormal genre. a live 1-hour radio/webtv show with Host and Founder Tony Sweet. We seek answers from the world's leading experts in the field of UFO investigations, abductions, the Paranormal, secret societies, and historical moments and figures in history. We invite our listeners to learn and create their own truth based on each show’s content. www.clubparanormal.com
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Pull that kara floating away.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
That's here, that's here, rode rode Govinda. We are here
to get the energy up around a conversation with Radika Das,
who is checking in with us from London ahead of
(00:38):
his uh about to get on a flight to come
see us in Los Angeles this weekend. Welcome Radika Das.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Thank you so much. Bunny's such an honor to be
here with you and all of your listeners.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
What I want to repeat what you said at the beginning,
all that karma floating away.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
So I just love that.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I mean, basically, that snippet we played was from one
of your concerts. You can tell us where if you like,
but we just want to let everyone know that that's
what we're going to be experiencing Saturday night in downtown
Los Angeles at the Peico Union. This is September seventh,
and we'll make sure you have the link in the
YouTube channel for anybody that wants to come. So where
(01:20):
was that recording from?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, that was from an escapade at the Union Chapel
in London. It's a space that holds about fifteen hundred people,
and yeah, that was my first time in front of
that many people changing the night away, and I just
remember the every time I hear the recording, I just
remember the energy, the kind of joy, the ecstasy that
(01:43):
was being transmitted from the stage and from the people
in the audience. Being in cure time together in this
community is just such an incredible experience. And I just
can't wait for this Saturday night. I'm buzzing. I can't.
I don't think I'm want to sleep on the flight.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I know, I know, I understand, And once you get here,
we'll we'll, you know, fuel the energy to make sure
that you don't have jet lag for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
So this cross, how did it?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Were you a musician?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But prior to you know, I heard a really great
interview with you on Inner Journey shout out to you know,
one of our other favorite shows out there that speak
to mystics, and I just you know, your first experience
with Kirtan it was kind of a surprise and you
didn't know necessarily what you were going to curious, I mean,
was it on your radar at all in terms of
(02:31):
maybe say a George Harrison, my sweet Lord things like that.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I mean, you are from England after all.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, Well, surprisingly, no, it wasn't on my radar in
any shape or form. In fact, chanting for me was
associated with culty behavior, and I didn't feel that this
was an authentic place to actually receive spirituality or to
connect with the spiritual through song and dance. It just
seemed really far fetched. But when someone broke it down
(02:59):
to me in this way, they said, the symptoms of
happiness are to sing and dance. I had to really
think about that. But it's so true when we're joyful,
when we're really happy in life, we generally sing about it.
We will dance to it, will party all night to
that joy. And so it kind of made a little
bit more sense that, yes, this is what real happiness
(03:21):
looks like that we're used to, and why wouldn't it
be the same in a spiritual sense also? But no,
my my history is not all linked with any sort
of musicianship. I was forced into piano lessons as a child,
and yeah, didn't really like it until I quit, to
be honest, And only now when I look back, I
(03:41):
realize that there was a bigger plan that you know,
learning those keys was key to my life.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Isn't that great? Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean I think that's sort of natural for kids
that they wanted they want to rebel right against it.
So thank goodness you had a foundation though, so that
you could dive into this experience. So I've entitled our
show Mantra Meditation. So one of the things that I'll
share and I've shared other times because I've had I'd
like to welcome Kreton artists to my show, And just
(04:10):
so you know, the one of the things that we
want to do here is untruth be told, transformation is
share keys, share tools for transformation, right, So I would
like to share that I've had great experience, very unexpected
also around chanting a Kureton concert as really finding meditation,
(04:33):
you know, getting lost. Now I'm not a musician either,
but I've gone to see a lot of music in
my day, you know, I go see bands all the time,
and I kind of found myself not going to CBGB's
in New York City to see punk rock as much,
and finding this really cool jam that was happening in
the West Village where I lived, and I mean hours
(04:57):
would go by and it felt like, I don't know
if thirty minutes or something like that, so really lost,
and I didn't really know much about Shiva or Krishna
or or any any of the deities to be honest.
So tell me your experience with the actual meditation part
and how you think it works.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, by bringing the mind to a place of connection
with something higher than the material, we're able to, like
you said, transcend the material way of thinking. And what
is that material way of thinking? That it's all about
(05:39):
me that I sit at the front of the concert.
I sit at the back of the bus. Not that
I know that many people in the States have used buses,
but back of the bus, but in the center of attention.
I like to sit in the center of attention. And
according to Bukhdi and Mantra and Kirtan, that consciousness of
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being self absorbed, me, me, me, myself self self is
really detrimental to a spiritual awareness. And so in my
understanding of meditation and my practice of meditation, it's about
how can I bring my mind and consciousness to be
about more than me, and whether that's connecting to imagery
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or thoughts of the divine, whether that's thinking of service,
and how I can use this human form of life
to impact others, whether that's Yeah, it could be philanthropy,
it could be any way in which we can connect
our consciousness, our mind with something greater than ourselves. And
(06:46):
that's basically my most treasured type of meditation, to try
and think about how can I open my consciousness beyond myself?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
That feels very good, and I think that people maybe
have some challenge with that because they are thinking about
anything from what am I going to eat after this?
To oh shoot, when you kind of you relax your mind,
you start to have these notions of oh, I was
(07:19):
supposed to call that person, or don't forget to pay
that bill or something like that.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So I definitely understand.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
The desire to do that, and I'm going to I
know you're doing a workshop as well on Sunday again,
we're taping those just days from when Radika will be
in Los Angeles. So what are your experiences one and
any hints at what you can do to help people.
I know one word that I'm going to insert here
(07:48):
if I can.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, presently, I kind of feel like you've touched on
it already and we're speaking about it, which is humility. Okay,
It's understood that part of really accessing the deepest truths
of spirituality. According to the Buckley tradition is to invoke
this quality of not thinking less of ourselves. Humility is
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often misunderstood as being I'm so low, I'm so crap,
I'm so I'm nothing, you know, That's what people perceive
oftentimes as humility. But humility, according to the Mantra traditions,
is that it's not to think less of ourselves, but
to think about ourselves less, so creating that space or
(08:35):
the opportunity for thinking of a higher connection. And how
can we invoke that? And people might think that means
that we have to shave our heads, put on robes,
become ordained monks of some sort, But actually the truth
is that it can happen in suit and tie. It
can happen in any circumstance. It's just a consciousness thing,
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and the mind is a powerful thing. We underestimates it,
but it can really be the difference between having a
self absorbed life, which yes, of course we need to
think about our needs and eating, sleeping needs and health needs,
but I think there is also still space for thinking beyond.
(09:19):
We do have the capacity to love, and I think
that the more we practice that, despite the world pushing
us into a corner of being more and more stone
cold with our feelings. The more that we practice being
aware and conscious of how can we be more loving,
how can we be more connected beyond just self interest,
(09:42):
That's where the magic lies for me, and that's what
I really want to kind That's one of the things
I want to get into on the Sunday.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Okay, Yeah, that workshop is going to be happening at
Veda Yoga on Lasienaga in Beverly Wood, in the Beverly
Wood neighborhood. And just again, we'll make sure that everybody's
got that info in the link and feel for you
to contact me on Instagram for any if you have
any questions. So let's take a look at a couple
of other Yeah, I was checking out your website before
(10:08):
our conversation and I grabbed a few words that I
stood out to me, and I thought it'd be really
nice to sort of think about and do a deeper
dive on.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
One was gratitude.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, to be grateful means to realize that I'm not
a self made person entirely. I know there's so many
of us that think that. You know, we've put in
our lot of hard work, we're putting a lot of
energy and that of course should be commended and applooded
well done. But also it takes a village to raise
a child, and as all children of the divine, in
(10:45):
my opinion, we are handheld by so many, We are
guided by so many, we are given truths by so many.
And I think that to live a grateful life means
to acknowledge that I'm more than self made, not just
self made, but more than self made. I'm gifted and
(11:05):
I'm being held by so many others and recognizing that,
I think is so important.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, I love that attitude of gratitude.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
We like to say, and for sure I know.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So it's a beautiful practice for people especially that are
going through a really, really hard time. And I remind
them just be grateful if you saw a rainbow today,
or somebody you heard from, somebody you haven't heard from
in a while, or be grateful that your body is
still moving well and you're I mean, it's crazy the
(11:38):
amount of things we have to be grateful for. And
I think it takes you to presence, which I think
is another important sort of tool basically in all of this.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Correct, Yeah, it's almost like a prerequisite to love, Like
if you think about any loving relationship you have, there's
always going to be an element of gratitude there, there's
going to be an element of appreciating what that person's
bringing to your life, that that person's gifting your life.
So yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So I think with the singing and the the I
am the chanting m I want to bring. I want
to stay on presence for a moment, even if you
don't know that the people were singing to or about,
you know, Lakshmi, Sarah Swatty, I don't know who. I
don't know your repertoire all of them, but I know
(12:29):
I'm sure you like them all. We don't have to
know them to enjoy singing to them, correct.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I mean, in one sense, it's it's a it's a
double sided thing. One sense, it's good to know who
you're singing about, because it means that we're not appropriating,
we're not coming up with things in our minds, and
we're sticking to the tradition. But at the same time,
it's like love knows no balances. And I think that
(12:58):
if a child doesn't really understand everything that the parent
is doing for it, but just calls out lovingly, Mama, Papa,
whatever name they have for their parent. I think the
parents' heart softens immediately when it hears the genuine I've
got two little kids, and as soon as my one
year old calls my name, I will drop everything, like
I will fly across the world to be back with
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my children, because that's what love speaks to. It calls
the heart beyond logic almost, and I think that it's
the same wind a divine connection. When we call lovingly,
then yeah, that which is beyond our understanding comes rushing
to our aid.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And I like the specification of calling lovingly, so I mean,
and it's mindful, right, Yeah, there's a mindfulness that you're
with which and that's what's so great to me at
an event like such as a kureton is being feeling
very free to be open with my voice versus I
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mean or maybe if I go see you two in
concert or something, I'm singing along just fine with everybody else.
But this one is almost a greater challenge because chances are,
if you're going to see your favorite band, you know
the lyrics. Where is this in this In this case,
you're being invited to sing and revere if you will
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in a way that maybe you don't know, but you
learn it right there. And that I think also, you know,
coming back around a presence, you have to be very
present and listen right, listen carefully.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
So when I first I'm totally honest with everyone, I
was completely bewildered. I did not want to be there.
I was thinking, this is so strange. People chining in
another language, that swaying side to side, eyes closed, some
of them aren't even crying. Then the cure ton picks
up and it's intensity and people start dancing. I was
(14:50):
freaked out. I was thinking, this is really strange, and
I can completely get it because it's so alien to
do something like that when we're not under the of
other things that alcohol, for example, to sing and dance
in public without having a drop of wine is definitely
an experience, and I think that there's something to be
then said about the power of the joy that's contained within,
(15:13):
like you said, this mindful experience of expressing love, of
calling for love, of connecting with these yeah, the spiritual essence.
I think that there is so much to be said
about that path because it invokes a joy that ordinarily
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would take many hundreds of dollars to get to on
an ordinary night out.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And so true, it's true. I mean it is, it
is nothing, but it's pure. It's clarity that you get
from it.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Radika.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I'm also remiss that I haven't mentioned that you will
be if people can't catch you this weekend with me
to see your concert or workshop. You're going to Bocty
Fest and the end of sep September.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So we're exciting being back in the hot desert of
Joshua Tree. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Right, so you've been there, you've been there before.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I've been there last year and had a great experience
as a wonderful festival, one where really hundreds, if not
thousands of people gather to explore the spiritual but also
just to have a good time and spend time connecting
with like minded souls, to you know, have great meals,
to discuss philosophy, to kick back and relax for a weekend.
(16:35):
It's it's a really good weekend to Yeah, to come
and check out.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Well, I can't wait, and I will be going to
that myself.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
So but that's that's going to be. That's that's also
very very fun. So it'll be interesting to see all
these different experiences with you and tell me what it's
been like for you. I know you play in Europe
as well as around the UK. So what are the
different crowds like, I mean, is it pretty much they're
into Bakhdi yoga and so consequently show up or are
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some maybe a little more shy than others.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I mean, what's it been.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Like for you as you've done this over a decade.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
It's been an explosion. It's been very very exciting here
in Europe because I mean we just maybe two weeks
ago had a Kreton where the were five hundred souls gathered,
a thousand souls gathered, five thousand, that medicine fest together
in Berkshire, and it seems like there's a real excitement
around chanting around Keyreton, around Mantra. And I mean the
(17:37):
other thing is you mentioned the differences between audiences. There's
definitely some differences. Some people will, like the American audiences
will very much express their joy and contentment with the chanting,
whereas some European audiences won't even break into a smile,
but deep down they are really feeling very connected. And
I mean it really speaks to something that even though
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so externally, we may appreciate things in different ways. For example,
in the States, just last weekend, I was at Amega
in Upstate New York in Rhinebeck, and people were joyously
chanting and dancing and leaping per joy, whereas in some
European places that's not such a common experience. Despite the
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differences externally, I think that when you've been in front
of audiences that much, which is something that I've been
blessed with to have seen so many eyes, to have
seen so many people in that experience, I've been really
drawn to understand that deep down, our needs, interests, and
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concerns on the deepest level are very very similar. We
may be separated by nationality and flags, but deep down
there is almost a divine shaped hole in the heart
of so many people that is longing for building up.
And so it has been very, very faith renewing for
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me to see that the world really wants this, and
the world really needs this practice of caureton.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I mean, I think it provides an incredible release. It
is a wonderful stress release, which I think we really
need in this country, especially this fall of twenty twenty four.
I won't state why I think people can maybe figure
out what I'm talking about, but no, it's tense times
and it's great to just get back into joy and
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your music does it and us participating with you does it. Right,
So we get to be part of the concert right
right now. It's great.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
So let's talk about that perfour months for sure. It's
a call and response. It's us together doing some magic.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, I'll be front stage, front rep backstage, and then
I don't know, maybe but probably from rop. Okay, So
a couple a couple of other things that I would
like to learn from you, because I just took a
glance at your site and I want to. By me
asking these questions, we get to know you a little
(20:10):
bit better and will help us understand, you know, sort
of appreciate the work that much more so. Shelter, what
is it?
Speaker 4 (20:20):
What are we talking about with shelter? Is it Sharon Makati?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Wow? Well that great pronunciation. Yeah, Sharon Agati is an
essential part of the Bukti tradition. It literally translates as sharona,
which means shelter and gatti, which means the part. And
that already speaks to the fact that taking shelter in
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something greater is not something that happens overnight, but takes time.
It's a practice. And now let's speak about the shelter part,
because that also seems a little bit alien to many.
The fact is that we all take shelter in so
many different things, physical and also internal. Physical obvious things
are money, we take shelter and how much money is
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in our bank account. We take shelter in our lovely homes.
We take shelter in the food that we eat, the
comfort foods that we eat. We take shelter, you know,
like when you break up with someone and the natural
thing to do is to get a top of ice
cream and to take shelter in that in that moment.
But internally also we take shelter in so many places.
For example, we take shelter maybe in our status and
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our public appearance, and we take shelter in the way
that people think about us and the relationships we have.
There's so many things we take shelter. But to be
a spiritually minded person means that you take shelter and
that which is beyond the material, and that does take
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a little fine tuning and honing and even a process
of coming to the realization that we do need, that
we need a higher connection in order to be holistically happy.
To be happy on the level of the body and
the mind is one thing, but then what about the soul?
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What about the bird within the cage? And so this
path of taking shelter, it's a path of humility. It's
a path of coming to the conclusion that I've got
a divine best friend and that person, that entity, that energy,
however you like to call it.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Is.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
There and has got my back. And the more I
lean into that relationship, the more I feel safe and
held and ultimately a higher sense of happiness. And so
that's what that path towards divine shelter is all about.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Wow, that's really great. That is not a concept that
I've contemplated. So I welcome that. I'm going to I'm
going to re listen.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
To that hope it connects up is not too far
fetched and beyond.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
No, no, no no, it's like like you say, it's
it's like your best friend. I mean it's it's I
almost use the word invincible, like there's almost an invincibility.
Once you start to understand this and weave this into
your daily existence and I'm not just talking chanting. I'm
talking really the devotion that and chanting is just an
expression of that. But it's really it's going to the gratitude,
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it's going to the mindfulness, it's going to kindness out
there in the world. And once you start really walking
the talk, I think there is an invincibility. And with that,
I think the shelter, the concept of shelter, it's almost
like your little happy shield in a way.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I mean, it's kind of very much in the scene,
like people are very much interested in manifestation nowadays, sure
and having confidence that your desires will manifest and so
in the same way, having confidence that something greater than
you has got your back, whether you call that intuition,
whether you have a name for that, like Krishna or rama,
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whether you don't have a name for that, and it's
just universal energy. It's having some sort of understanding that
it's not all on my shoulders to make it or
break it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I feel like surrender comes into play exactly right.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
So I feel that that was very important for you.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And you're sort of, you know, going back to your
first experience with Kirtan and and you said that you
kind of wanted to leave, but you were with a friend,
and so you had to stay, right, I mean, you
had to surrender to the experience.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
For sure. There was a point in that Kirton where
the facilitates of that space, of that particular chanting experience
told us to throw our hands up and chant. And
I was thinking, all right, here we go. I'm just
going to give it a gough And so I throw
my hands up and I'm just chanting with my eyes closed,
and I just remember feeling so free and surrendered and
feeling that, yeah, it's not all on me, and that's
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a really freeing experience, and especially when you chant with
many others, it's such I mean, I can't describe it
well enough. You've just got to come on Saturday night,
that's the and be with us on Sunday and remain
in the cure Ton forever.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Right exactly. And there's my bunch of Joshua Tree after that. No,
but you know, one of the things I want to
say about it is almost there's some courage. It took
some courage to go ahead and participate and move out
of your comfort zone and what you knew.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And I think, I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Know, maybe you could say it takes some courage to
be weird because they're like, oh, my arms are up
and I'm chanting something. I have no idea what it means,
but I don't know. We don't have to break it
down in that way.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It's almost sol No.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
One of my teachers says something exactly like that. That
to be normal means that we accept the values of
an insane world, a world in which hating each other
based on the body, on you know, skin color, on nationality,
on sexuality, that's normal to discriminate on those things. Right,
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to be normal means we accept the values of an
insane world. I'd rather be considered abnormal, live a life
less ordinary, to have a greater connection. And we all
have to make a choice. In one sense, what does
normal mean? Like normal for you and I is totally
different to the person that's sitting maybe in your studio
as your producer. You know, there might be someone listening
(26:29):
to this and thinking, oh my god, RIDI kades, he's
off his rocker. But then if we really looked into
the kind of weird and wonderful things that you did
in your life, I'm sure there'd be so many things
that you think that's not normal. But that's what it takes.
To do something that's not in the norm means that
we then have the opportunity to really experience something new,
to learn something. Albert Einstein, for example, he says it
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to do the same thing again and again and again
and expect different results is the definition of insanity. And
so if we're looking for a divine connection but we
don't feel like we've had it, then maybe something that's
completely different, changing it up, flipping the script so to say,
maybe that might uncover or peel away a layer or
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create an opportunity for an experience that really enlivens us,
that brings us to a whole new understanding. And that's
what you're done invites us.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
For I love that it's liberation.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So what I'm hearing is one of the words I
would use, and one thing I would comment for you
know my goal for the show and doing this podcast,
and I think you're my one hundred and twentieth episode
as a matter of fact, So that's a I think
that's kind of an awesome ressation. Thank you and thanks
for being here. For sure, truth be Told. The name
(27:46):
of the show, Truth be Told transformation. I feel like
the truth that I am speaking about is authenticity. And
so that's what you're inviting us to do and be.
And you know, come one, come all to have this experience.
I mean, you don't have to come with your posse.
I mean we want you to, of course, but you're
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going to. I think that it becomes this loving community
even if you show up on your own. I know,
I used to go to Cure Times by myself because
all my friends were like going to punk rock concerts,
do you know what I mean? And so I was
the person that I had to follow my heart and
do something that wasn't you know, you know, bleeding in
my ears. And I didn't feel like drinking any more
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beers at that point in my life. And yet I
got even more high doing this, right.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, right, So it's an invite for authenticity and invite
for something different, and invite for exploration of self, of
higher consciousness. It's an invite for joy, it's an invite
for I'm pretty certain, and I mean, without putting too
much of a disclaimer on it, that anyone that connects
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with this practice is going to find deeper truth than
they expected. It's so simple, this process of chanting and
dancing and being collective in this community. It's so simple.
You might miss it. You might see it's just a
Hindu karaoke or you know, you might just see it
as a chance to just sing and dance with friends
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and let your hair down. And that's completely fine. There's
no need to prescribe. And you know, sign up anywhere
for a particular tradition and now you're part of a
cult or anything of the sort. Is an experience of
spirituality that is maybe unconventional, but also at the same
time invites you to a joy that's unconventional too right.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
On, and gets you to a place of meditation that
you may that is very unexpected.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Right that you.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I mean, so it doesn't have to be this austere quietude.
You might find that inner calm and certainly reverence by
singing and dancing.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I mean, I do.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I think that it really helps me get to a
neutral place. I tend to listen to entre music a lot,
you know, these days, just because it feels good, and
I think this is going to be really great. And
I think I should let you go because you need
to thank you. Charge the batteries before a long, long
flight and we're really excited to get you over here
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to California again. We will see you Saturday night. That's
at the Peico Union Project. It's in downtown Los Angeles
Sunday afternoon for a workshop. So the concert is Saturday night,
the workshop is Sunday. That's at Veda Yoga in Beverlywood.
They've got two locations. This is their new Losienego location
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and Bactyfest. I think you're I don't know which night
you're performing. Are you on the Saturday? It is September
twenty fifth through twenty.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Eighth, I think are my dates?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Maybe I'm performing on the Friday night.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
So that's also just a great and you know, really,
what we're trying to do is this is a show
that I like to use is to pull the community together.
We are I think the viewers are interested in higher
consciousness and I like to deliver all the luminaries that
can help us find our way.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
So thank you, it's such a pleasure to speak to you.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Further, I can't wait, wait wait for Saturday night, and
I thank you and we'll see you there.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Thank you so much, Bonnie, I really appreciate this opportunity
to be connected with you and your audience and can't
wait to see you very very soon.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I must stay and Bonya. Thanks for listening everyone. This
is Bonnie Burker for Truth Be Told Transformation. We as mentioned,
we've got lots of episodes and we're just really here
to provide a platform for artists, speakers and teachers that
want to help us find a higher, brighter life. Don't
forget Tony sweet is on Fridays at three pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
That's live, so.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
The community gathers to ask questions of his guests and
certainly of Tony, So don't forget to tune in there
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That's our YouTube channel. If you want any information about
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and don't forget shine On, pull.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
That Parma floating away. Whoa god.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It love it.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
That's here, that's here, Jem Toddy
Pull that kara floating away.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
That's here, that's here, rode rode Govinda. We are here
to get the energy up around a conversation with Radika Das,
who is checking in with us from London ahead of
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his uh about to get on a flight to come
see us in Los Angeles this weekend. Welcome Radika Das.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Thank you so much. Bunny's such an honor to be
here with you and all of your listeners.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
What I want to repeat what you said at the beginning,
all that karma floating away.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
So I just love that.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I mean, basically, that snippet we played was from one
of your concerts. You can tell us where if you like,
but we just want to let everyone know that that's
what we're going to be experiencing Saturday night in downtown
Los Angeles at the Peico Union. This is September seventh,
and we'll make sure you have the link in the
YouTube channel for anybody that wants to come. So where
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was that recording from?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, that was from an escapade at the Union Chapel
in London. It's a space that holds about fifteen hundred people,
and yeah, that was my first time in front of
that many people changing the night away, and I just
remember the every time I hear the recording, I just
remember the energy, the kind of joy, the ecstasy that
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was being transmitted from the stage and from the people
in the audience. Being in cure time together in this
community is just such an incredible experience. And I just
can't wait for this Saturday night. I'm buzzing. I can't.
I don't think I'm want to sleep on the flight.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I know, I know, I understand, And once you get here,
we'll we'll, you know, fuel the energy to make sure
that you don't have jet lag for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
So this cross, how did it?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Were you a musician?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But prior to you know, I heard a really great
interview with you on Inner Journey shout out to you know,
one of our other favorite shows out there that speak
to mystics, and I just you know, your first experience
with Kirtan it was kind of a surprise and you
didn't know necessarily what you were going to curious, I mean,
was it on your radar at all in terms of
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maybe say a George Harrison, my sweet Lord things like that.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I mean, you are from England after all.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, Well, surprisingly, no, it wasn't on my radar in
any shape or form. In fact, chanting for me was
associated with culty behavior, and I didn't feel that this
was an authentic place to actually receive spirituality or to
connect with the spiritual through song and dance. It just
seemed really far fetched. But when someone broke it down
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to me in this way, they said, the symptoms of
happiness are to sing and dance. I had to really
think about that. But it's so true when we're joyful,
when we're really happy in life, we generally sing about it.
We will dance to it, will party all night to
that joy. And so it kind of made a little
bit more sense that, yes, this is what real happiness
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looks like that we're used to, and why wouldn't it
be the same in a spiritual sense also? But no,
my my history is not all linked with any sort
of musicianship. I was forced into piano lessons as a child,
and yeah, didn't really like it until I quit, to
be honest, And only now when I look back, I
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realize that there was a bigger plan that you know,
learning those keys was key to my life.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Isn't that great? Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean I think that's sort of natural for kids
that they wanted they want to rebel right against it.
So thank goodness you had a foundation though, so that
you could dive into this experience. So I've entitled our
show Mantra Meditation. So one of the things that I'll
share and I've shared other times because I've had I'd
like to welcome Kreton artists to my show, And just
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so you know, the one of the things that we
want to do here is untruth be told, transformation is
share keys, share tools for transformation, right, So I would
like to share that I've had great experience, very unexpected
also around chanting a Kureton concert as really finding meditation,
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you know, getting lost. Now I'm not a musician either,
but I've gone to see a lot of music in
my day, you know, I go see bands all the time,
and I kind of found myself not going to CBGB's
in New York City to see punk rock as much,
and finding this really cool jam that was happening in
the West Village where I lived, and I mean hours
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would go by and it felt like, I don't know
if thirty minutes or something like that, so really lost,
and I didn't really know much about Shiva or Krishna
or or any any of the deities to be honest.
So tell me your experience with the actual meditation part
and how you think it works.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, by bringing the mind to a place of connection
with something higher than the material, we're able to, like
you said, transcend the material way of thinking. And what
is that material way of thinking? That it's all about
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me that I sit at the front of the concert.
I sit at the back of the bus. Not that
I know that many people in the States have used buses,
but back of the bus, but in the center of attention.
I like to sit in the center of attention. And
according to Bukhdi and Mantra and Kirtan, that consciousness of
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being self absorbed, me, me, me, myself self self is
really detrimental to a spiritual awareness. And so in my
understanding of meditation and my practice of meditation, it's about
how can I bring my mind and consciousness to be
about more than me, and whether that's connecting to imagery
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or thoughts of the divine, whether that's thinking of service,
and how I can use this human form of life
to impact others, whether that's Yeah, it could be philanthropy,
it could be any way in which we can connect
our consciousness, our mind with something greater than ourselves. And
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that's basically my most treasured type of meditation, to try
and think about how can I open my consciousness beyond myself?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
That feels very good, and I think that people maybe
have some challenge with that because they are thinking about
anything from what am I going to eat after this?
To oh shoot, when you kind of you relax your mind,
you start to have these notions of oh, I was
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supposed to call that person, or don't forget to pay
that bill or something like that.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So I definitely understand.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
The desire to do that, and I'm going to I
know you're doing a workshop as well on Sunday again,
we're taping those just days from when Radika will be
in Los Angeles. So what are your experiences one and
any hints at what you can do to help people.
I know one word that I'm going to insert here
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if I can.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, presently, I kind of feel like you've touched on
it already and we're speaking about it, which is humility. Okay,
It's understood that part of really accessing the deepest truths
of spirituality. According to the Buckley tradition is to invoke
this quality of not thinking less of ourselves. Humility is
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often misunderstood as being I'm so low, I'm so crap,
I'm so I'm nothing, you know, That's what people perceive
oftentimes as humility. But humility, according to the Mantra traditions,
is that it's not to think less of ourselves, but
to think about ourselves less, so creating that space or
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the opportunity for thinking of a higher connection. And how
can we invoke that? And people might think that means
that we have to shave our heads, put on robes,
become ordained monks of some sort, But actually the truth
is that it can happen in suit and tie. It
can happen in any circumstance. It's just a consciousness thing,
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and the mind is a powerful thing. We underestimates it,
but it can really be the difference between having a
self absorbed life, which yes, of course we need to
think about our needs and eating, sleeping needs and health needs,
but I think there is also still space for thinking beyond.
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We do have the capacity to love, and I think
that the more we practice that, despite the world pushing
us into a corner of being more and more stone
cold with our feelings. The more that we practice being
aware and conscious of how can we be more loving,
how can we be more connected beyond just self interest,
(09:42):
That's where the magic lies for me, and that's what
I really want to kind That's one of the things
I want to get into on the Sunday.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Okay, Yeah, that workshop is going to be happening at
Veda Yoga on Lasienaga in Beverly Wood, in the Beverly
Wood neighborhood. And just again, we'll make sure that everybody's
got that info in the link and feel for you
to contact me on Instagram for any if you have
any questions. So let's take a look at a couple
of other Yeah, I was checking out your website before
(10:08):
our conversation and I grabbed a few words that I
stood out to me, and I thought it'd be really
nice to sort of think about and do a deeper
dive on.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
One was gratitude.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, to be grateful means to realize that I'm not
a self made person entirely. I know there's so many
of us that think that. You know, we've put in
our lot of hard work, we're putting a lot of
energy and that of course should be commended and applooded
well done. But also it takes a village to raise
a child, and as all children of the divine, in
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my opinion, we are handheld by so many, We are
guided by so many, we are given truths by so many.
And I think that to live a grateful life means
to acknowledge that I'm more than self made, not just
self made, but more than self made. I'm gifted and
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I'm being held by so many others and recognizing that,
I think is so important.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, I love that attitude of gratitude.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
We like to say, and for sure I know.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So it's a beautiful practice for people especially that are
going through a really, really hard time. And I remind
them just be grateful if you saw a rainbow today,
or somebody you heard from, somebody you haven't heard from
in a while, or be grateful that your body is
still moving well and you're I mean, it's crazy the
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amount of things we have to be grateful for. And
I think it takes you to presence, which I think
is another important sort of tool basically in all of this.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Correct, Yeah, it's almost like a prerequisite to love, Like
if you think about any loving relationship you have, there's
always going to be an element of gratitude there, there's
going to be an element of appreciating what that person's
bringing to your life, that that person's gifting your life.
So yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So I think with the singing and the the I
am the chanting m I want to bring. I want
to stay on presence for a moment, even if you
don't know that the people were singing to or about,
you know, Lakshmi, Sarah Swatty, I don't know who. I
don't know your repertoire all of them, but I know
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I'm sure you like them all. We don't have to
know them to enjoy singing to them, correct.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I mean, in one sense, it's it's a it's a
double sided thing. One sense, it's good to know who
you're singing about, because it means that we're not appropriating,
we're not coming up with things in our minds, and
we're sticking to the tradition. But at the same time,
it's like love knows no balances. And I think that
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if a child doesn't really understand everything that the parent
is doing for it, but just calls out lovingly, Mama, Papa,
whatever name they have for their parent. I think the
parents' heart softens immediately when it hears the genuine I've
got two little kids, and as soon as my one
year old calls my name, I will drop everything, like
I will fly across the world to be back with
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my children, because that's what love speaks to. It calls
the heart beyond logic almost, and I think that it's
the same wind a divine connection. When we call lovingly,
then yeah, that which is beyond our understanding comes rushing
to our aid.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And I like the specification of calling lovingly, so I mean,
and it's mindful, right, Yeah, there's a mindfulness that you're
with which and that's what's so great to me at
an event like such as a kureton is being feeling
very free to be open with my voice versus I
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mean or maybe if I go see you two in
concert or something, I'm singing along just fine with everybody else.
But this one is almost a greater challenge because chances are,
if you're going to see your favorite band, you know
the lyrics. Where is this in this In this case,
you're being invited to sing and revere if you will
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in a way that maybe you don't know, but you
learn it right there. And that I think also, you know,
coming back around a presence, you have to be very
present and listen right, listen carefully.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
So when I first I'm totally honest with everyone, I
was completely bewildered. I did not want to be there.
I was thinking, this is so strange. People chining in
another language, that swaying side to side, eyes closed, some
of them aren't even crying. Then the cure ton picks
up and it's intensity and people start dancing. I was
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freaked out. I was thinking, this is really strange, and
I can completely get it because it's so alien to
do something like that when we're not under the of
other things that alcohol, for example, to sing and dance
in public without having a drop of wine is definitely
an experience, and I think that there's something to be
then said about the power of the joy that's contained within,
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like you said, this mindful experience of expressing love, of
calling for love, of connecting with these yeah, the spiritual essence.
I think that there is so much to be said
about that path because it invokes a joy that ordinarily
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would take many hundreds of dollars to get to on
an ordinary night out.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And so true, it's true. I mean it is, it
is nothing, but it's pure. It's clarity that you get
from it.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Radika.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I'm also remiss that I haven't mentioned that you will
be if people can't catch you this weekend with me
to see your concert or workshop. You're going to Bocty
Fest and the end of sep September.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So we're exciting being back in the hot desert of
Joshua Tree. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Right, so you've been there, you've been there before.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I've been there last year and had a great experience
as a wonderful festival, one where really hundreds, if not
thousands of people gather to explore the spiritual but also
just to have a good time and spend time connecting
with like minded souls, to you know, have great meals,
to discuss philosophy, to kick back and relax for a weekend.
(16:35):
It's it's a really good weekend to Yeah, to come
and check out.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Well, I can't wait, and I will be going to
that myself.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
So but that's that's going to be. That's that's also
very very fun. So it'll be interesting to see all
these different experiences with you and tell me what it's
been like for you. I know you play in Europe
as well as around the UK. So what are the
different crowds like, I mean, is it pretty much they're
into Bakhdi yoga and so consequently show up or are
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some maybe a little more shy than others.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I mean, what's it been.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Like for you as you've done this over a decade.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
It's been an explosion. It's been very very exciting here
in Europe because I mean we just maybe two weeks
ago had a Kreton where the were five hundred souls gathered,
a thousand souls gathered, five thousand, that medicine fest together
in Berkshire, and it seems like there's a real excitement
around chanting around Keyreton, around Mantra. And I mean the
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other thing is you mentioned the differences between audiences. There's
definitely some differences. Some people will, like the American audiences
will very much express their joy and contentment with the chanting,
whereas some European audiences won't even break into a smile,
but deep down they are really feeling very connected. And
I mean it really speaks to something that even though
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so externally, we may appreciate things in different ways. For example,
in the States, just last weekend, I was at Amega
in Upstate New York in Rhinebeck, and people were joyously
chanting and dancing and leaping per joy, whereas in some
European places that's not such a common experience. Despite the
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differences externally, I think that when you've been in front
of audiences that much, which is something that I've been
blessed with to have seen so many eyes, to have
seen so many people in that experience, I've been really
drawn to understand that deep down, our needs, interests, and
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concerns on the deepest level are very very similar. We
may be separated by nationality and flags, but deep down
there is almost a divine shaped hole in the heart
of so many people that is longing for building up.
And so it has been very, very faith renewing for
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me to see that the world really wants this, and
the world really needs this practice of caureton.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I mean, I think it provides an incredible release. It
is a wonderful stress release, which I think we really
need in this country, especially this fall of twenty twenty four.
I won't state why I think people can maybe figure
out what I'm talking about, but no, it's tense times
and it's great to just get back into joy and
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your music does it and us participating with you does it. Right,
So we get to be part of the concert right
right now. It's great.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
So let's talk about that perfour months for sure. It's
a call and response. It's us together doing some magic.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, I'll be front stage, front rep backstage, and then
I don't know, maybe but probably from rop. Okay, So
a couple a couple of other things that I would
like to learn from you, because I just took a
glance at your site and I want to. By me
asking these questions, we get to know you a little
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bit better and will help us understand, you know, sort
of appreciate the work that much more so. Shelter, what
is it?
Speaker 4 (20:20):
What are we talking about with shelter? Is it Sharon Makati?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Wow? Well that great pronunciation. Yeah, Sharon Agati is an
essential part of the Bukti tradition. It literally translates as sharona,
which means shelter and gatti, which means the part. And
that already speaks to the fact that taking shelter in
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something greater is not something that happens overnight, but takes time.
It's a practice. And now let's speak about the shelter part,
because that also seems a little bit alien to many.
The fact is that we all take shelter in so
many different things, physical and also internal. Physical obvious things
are money, we take shelter and how much money is
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in our bank account. We take shelter in our lovely homes.
We take shelter in the food that we eat, the
comfort foods that we eat. We take shelter, you know,
like when you break up with someone and the natural
thing to do is to get a top of ice
cream and to take shelter in that in that moment.
But internally also we take shelter in so many places.
For example, we take shelter maybe in our status and
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our public appearance, and we take shelter in the way
that people think about us and the relationships we have.
There's so many things we take shelter. But to be
a spiritually minded person means that you take shelter and
that which is beyond the material, and that does take
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a little fine tuning and honing and even a process
of coming to the realization that we do need, that
we need a higher connection in order to be holistically happy.
To be happy on the level of the body and
the mind is one thing, but then what about the soul?
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What about the bird within the cage? And so this
path of taking shelter, it's a path of humility. It's
a path of coming to the conclusion that I've got
a divine best friend and that person, that entity, that energy,
however you like to call it.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Is.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
There and has got my back. And the more I
lean into that relationship, the more I feel safe and
held and ultimately a higher sense of happiness. And so
that's what that path towards divine shelter is all about.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Wow, that's really great. That is not a concept that
I've contemplated. So I welcome that. I'm going to I'm
going to re listen.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
To that hope it connects up is not too far
fetched and beyond.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
No, no, no no, it's like like you say, it's
it's like your best friend. I mean it's it's I
almost use the word invincible, like there's almost an invincibility.
Once you start to understand this and weave this into
your daily existence and I'm not just talking chanting. I'm
talking really the devotion that and chanting is just an
expression of that. But it's really it's going to the gratitude,
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it's going to the mindfulness, it's going to kindness out
there in the world. And once you start really walking
the talk, I think there is an invincibility. And with that,
I think the shelter, the concept of shelter, it's almost
like your little happy shield in a way.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I mean, it's kind of very much in the scene,
like people are very much interested in manifestation nowadays, sure
and having confidence that your desires will manifest and so
in the same way, having confidence that something greater than
you has got your back, whether you call that intuition,
whether you have a name for that, like Krishna or rama,
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whether you don't have a name for that, and it's
just universal energy. It's having some sort of understanding that
it's not all on my shoulders to make it or
break it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I feel like surrender comes into play exactly right.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
So I feel that that was very important for you.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And you're sort of, you know, going back to your
first experience with Kirtan and and you said that you
kind of wanted to leave, but you were with a friend,
and so you had to stay, right, I mean, you
had to surrender to the experience.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
For sure. There was a point in that Kirton where
the facilitates of that space, of that particular chanting experience
told us to throw our hands up and chant. And
I was thinking, all right, here we go. I'm just
going to give it a gough And so I throw
my hands up and I'm just chanting with my eyes closed,
and I just remember feeling so free and surrendered and
feeling that, yeah, it's not all on me, and that's
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a really freeing experience, and especially when you chant with
many others, it's such I mean, I can't describe it
well enough. You've just got to come on Saturday night,
that's the and be with us on Sunday and remain
in the cure Ton forever.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Right exactly. And there's my bunch of Joshua Tree after that. No,
but you know, one of the things I want to
say about it is almost there's some courage. It took
some courage to go ahead and participate and move out
of your comfort zone and what you knew.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And I think, I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Know, maybe you could say it takes some courage to
be weird because they're like, oh, my arms are up
and I'm chanting something. I have no idea what it means,
but I don't know. We don't have to break it
down in that way.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It's almost sol No.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
One of my teachers says something exactly like that. That
to be normal means that we accept the values of
an insane world, a world in which hating each other
based on the body, on you know, skin color, on nationality,
on sexuality, that's normal to discriminate on those things. Right,
(26:08):
to be normal means we accept the values of an
insane world. I'd rather be considered abnormal, live a life
less ordinary, to have a greater connection. And we all
have to make a choice. In one sense, what does
normal mean? Like normal for you and I is totally
different to the person that's sitting maybe in your studio
as your producer. You know, there might be someone listening
(26:29):
to this and thinking, oh my god, RIDI kades, he's
off his rocker. But then if we really looked into
the kind of weird and wonderful things that you did
in your life, I'm sure there'd be so many things
that you think that's not normal. But that's what it takes.
To do something that's not in the norm means that
we then have the opportunity to really experience something new,
to learn something. Albert Einstein, for example, he says it
(26:52):
to do the same thing again and again and again
and expect different results is the definition of insanity. And
so if we're looking for a divine connection but we
don't feel like we've had it, then maybe something that's
completely different, changing it up, flipping the script so to say,
maybe that might uncover or peel away a layer or
(27:14):
create an opportunity for an experience that really enlivens us,
that brings us to a whole new understanding. And that's
what you're done invites us.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
For I love that it's liberation.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So what I'm hearing is one of the words I
would use, and one thing I would comment for you
know my goal for the show and doing this podcast,
and I think you're my one hundred and twentieth episode
as a matter of fact, So that's a I think
that's kind of an awesome ressation. Thank you and thanks
for being here. For sure, truth be Told. The name
(27:46):
of the show, Truth be Told transformation. I feel like
the truth that I am speaking about is authenticity. And
so that's what you're inviting us to do and be.
And you know, come one, come all to have this experience.
I mean, you don't have to come with your posse.
I mean we want you to, of course, but you're
(28:07):
going to. I think that it becomes this loving community
even if you show up on your own. I know,
I used to go to Cure Times by myself because
all my friends were like going to punk rock concerts,
do you know what I mean? And so I was
the person that I had to follow my heart and
do something that wasn't you know, you know, bleeding in
my ears. And I didn't feel like drinking any more
(28:27):
beers at that point in my life. And yet I
got even more high doing this, right.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, right, So it's an invite for authenticity and invite
for something different, and invite for exploration of self, of
higher consciousness. It's an invite for joy, it's an invite
for I'm pretty certain, and I mean, without putting too
much of a disclaimer on it, that anyone that connects
(28:53):
with this practice is going to find deeper truth than
they expected. It's so simple, this process of chanting and
dancing and being collective in this community. It's so simple.
You might miss it. You might see it's just a
Hindu karaoke or you know, you might just see it
as a chance to just sing and dance with friends
(29:14):
and let your hair down. And that's completely fine. There's
no need to prescribe. And you know, sign up anywhere
for a particular tradition and now you're part of a
cult or anything of the sort. Is an experience of
spirituality that is maybe unconventional, but also at the same
time invites you to a joy that's unconventional too right.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
On, and gets you to a place of meditation that
you may that is very unexpected.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Right that you.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I mean, so it doesn't have to be this austere quietude.
You might find that inner calm and certainly reverence by
singing and dancing.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I mean, I do.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I think that it really helps me get to a
neutral place. I tend to listen to entre music a lot,
you know, these days, just because it feels good, and
I think this is going to be really great. And
I think I should let you go because you need
to thank you. Charge the batteries before a long, long
flight and we're really excited to get you over here
(30:17):
to California again. We will see you Saturday night. That's
at the Peico Union Project. It's in downtown Los Angeles
Sunday afternoon for a workshop. So the concert is Saturday night,
the workshop is Sunday. That's at Veda Yoga in Beverlywood.
They've got two locations. This is their new Losienego location
(30:37):
and Bactyfest. I think you're I don't know which night
you're performing. Are you on the Saturday? It is September
twenty fifth through twenty.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Eighth, I think are my dates?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Maybe I'm performing on the Friday night.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
So that's also just a great and you know, really,
what we're trying to do is this is a show
that I like to use is to pull the community together.
We are I think the viewers are interested in higher
consciousness and I like to deliver all the luminaries that
can help us find our way.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
So thank you, it's such a pleasure to speak to you.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Further, I can't wait, wait wait for Saturday night, and
I thank you and we'll see you there.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Thank you so much, Bonnie, I really appreciate this opportunity
to be connected with you and your audience and can't
wait to see you very very soon.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I must stay and Bonya. Thanks for listening everyone. This
is Bonnie Burker for Truth Be Told Transformation. We as mentioned,
we've got lots of episodes and we're just really here
to provide a platform for artists, speakers and teachers that
want to help us find a higher, brighter life. Don't
forget Tony sweet is on Fridays at three pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
That's live, so.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
The community gathers to ask questions of his guests and
certainly of Tony, So don't forget to tune in there
and be sure to follow the club our normal network.
That's our YouTube channel. If you want any information about
this show, we will make sure that that's up on
our YouTube channel and we'd love to hear from you,
so don't be shy and thanks again for listening, watching it,
(32:13):
and don't forget shine On, pull.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
That Parma floating away. Whoa god.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It love it.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
That's here, that's here, Jem Toddy
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