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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hello, this is Truth be Told Transformation. I'm Bonnie Burkert,
here to share tools for transformation, to.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Live your highest truth. One thing that's true for.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Me is that this is episode I don't know, Tony's
in the studio with me, like maybe one p fifty
or something like that, just about And it has been
transformative for me in a lot of different ways. And
I will say one example is being a better listener.
So when I have speakers on, just listening carefully. So
the guest that I'm having on and this is actually
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his third time on my show, and I wanted to
have this is my final episode in my beloved studio
in Burbank, California, not my studios Tony Studio, but our
Truth be Told Beloved studio, And so I wanted to
kind of end with a speaker who was very, very
moving to me in lots of different ways. When the
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first times talking about his book, I didn't know too
much about it, and I remember it was very illuminating
for me and it was provided a shift. And then
another time back in November when things were really dire again,
I was dragging and he made me laugh, and so
I thought it would be interesting as I feel I'm
embarking on a new chapter with this show, Truth Betold Transformation.
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To have Josh Ragman back in the studio, back on
the air with me.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Hello, Josh, Hey.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Bonnie, thanks for having me. I'm super honored and happy
to be here for your I GOT special show. I
was a little delay on I should stop looking at myself,
something I should do in general. But I need to focus.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
On me or we you know, It's all good. So
Joshua is the author of the Realized Light of the
Twelve Dimensions, and it's a book on Josha. I've had
a chance to get through the initial chapters of it
and having an understanding of channeling. Now, Joshua, we have
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a connection through he was in a rock band, he's
a filmmaker. And yet josh tell me about where sort
of this surge of energy that you always had in you,
but you you, you know, to be punny, you channeled
this energy into becoming a channel. So I wanted to
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introduce you that way and talk a little bit about
what one does when you feel the higher calling.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, well I was, I guess to begin. I was
very lucky to be allowed to be an artist and
give it a try, and there's all the sacrifice that
comes with that and believing in yourself. But the shadow
or the in or the balance to that is that
when we're trying to express the ineffable or the magical realms,
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you know, which is what aren't supposed to do. It's
not necessarily political or aesthetic. When you're putting on a
veil or a mask, either in your work or you
are veiled inside the work, you're basically dealing with like
the alchemy, which people call shamanism. And some people don't
like to consider artists shamans. They think they're just kind
of like playing with esthetics and sort of shapes and symbols.
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But whether you're making film or you're doing anything, or
music especially, you're dealing with all these things that are
beyond they're just beyond systems, and so that's where the
magic is. Like what is music if you really everyone
might sound tripe, but everyone really thinks about music like
it's so cliched, but what is happening? And it is
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spiritual and that it touches the spirit, it touches the
energy body. You know, when people say, oh my heart
feels this, or you get constricted in your heart chakra
or whatever happens. So when I was doing that, I
was aware that I was playing in these realms. Additionally,
I had lucid dreaming experiences, astral experiences, and through lots
of traumatic rebirth moments in my life, I've opened up
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channels of sensitivity. Like a lot of people out there
are intuitives or psychics, everyone is to an extent. But
if you really extend your consciousness, the bubble of your consciousness,
your awareness, right then you're picking up, like a receiver,
all these impressions and imprints and data. And what I
realized was I could either funnel that into materialized work,
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or I could become that at all moments and offer
back a reflection for other individuals. But that's delicate, right,
because one has to be very disciplined and ready, And
somehow I felt I was ready, initiated or capable, and
some days I feel I am. Some days I struggle,
but I'm there to do that work with individuals because
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we just can't do it alone. We need these reflections
to channel consciousness, not necessarily other beings, but states of
being to reflect to others so that they can reach
their highest potential in this life and charmically purifying goal
on because we're aiming towards enlightenment and if we're trying
to help each other do that, we're not just trying
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to make money or build things or feel good. We're
trying to evolve, you know. And so that became the mission.
I was like, beyond art, It's going to become the
art of relating.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, no, it's okay, that's great and I love it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And there's just again multi layers as we talk about
the multiple dimensions, I'm talking about multiple layers of what
you're talking about, and this this invitation for us to
approach life this way. So, Josh, how did there?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Now you are a Buddhist? Are you a Buddhist? You're
not a monk, but you're well studied?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Like I are you a monk?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Now?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I got ordained to be? Like what's a lay monk?
Which is like you can go have girlfriends or a
wife or a family or a partner or whatever it is,
or a husband or whatever, and you can work and
you're gonna have to make money, and you have a
home and you eat and normal whatever you want. And
that's a type of monk like that in the Tibetan tradition.
But I mean, I don't uphold the precepts and the
things properly, so I wouldn't claim that I'm doing even
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that properly. But I did study the dharma on how
for since I was like a teenager, so yeah, and practice.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So how does it tell me sort of the how
it interweaves with some of this sort of higher consciousness.
I mean, certainly meditation is going to take us to
higher consciousness, but you're speaking a language that is different
than the language that we know of Tibetan Buddhism.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, I definitely am not representing Tibetan Buddhism because I'm like,
obviously I talk about all these other things and those
are not canonized in Tibetan Buddhism. But I will say
a lot of times I meet people in the medicine
space or a new age stuff, and you know, they have, well,
just my perception, they have a lot of the shamanic pieces,
energetic pieces, channeling pieces, a lot of the cosmology metaphysics
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or the poetry, and they're having synchronicities, symbols, evolutions, they're
doing yogas, They're they're opening up this stuff and having
experiences and conscious and then they don't have the frame,
you know, and it really is kind of philosophical, so
that your mind, your thinking mind, can have containers for
knowing what is emptiness, what is karma, what is rebirth?
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And then dimensionally what is perception? And people talk about
dense perception. Then they talk about, oh, I'm getting this
from the fourth being time, fifth being more intuitive, knowing, feeling, creating,
and then up from there. It's like moving your consciousness
into what's very dangerous for some people to do, which
is fractalizing it into multiple positions. So that thing is
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what I share and teach and how I work. And
I think if people don't have a grasp on it,
they have a lot of experiences, but I help a
lot of people who don't know how to frame it.
So in Buddhism, forget Buddhism. In dharma, the understanding of mind, conscious,
the nature of reality and what to do to get
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on track, protect your mind and understand your mission is
foundational to the rest of the stuff people are so
fast to get into.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, like I said, there's a lot to unpack, so
please pardon the pause. I'm just like Okay, Wow, I
could take this a million different directions. But you mentioned
working with people, and so I know, and that's something
I hope we'll have a chance to do at some point.
But what's it like, do I need to be knowing
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about the fifth dimension and the Palladians to work with you?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
No? Now, I work all over the map. If someone
just wants to move through how's your day type stuff
or career or relationship all the way to they may
have a big language for metaphysics where they may be
really overly studied in one place and it's just like,
you know, it doesn't make sense with their current experiences.
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Mostly it's people, which is like all of us, who
are going through a fissure, like a crack, like a
like something massive is happening in their life, and they're like,
you know, why does anyone go to anyone? Right? They
come because they're like I'm full of despair or I'm
so activated, I don't know what to how to frame this,
you know, and I need to change my whole life
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or something just fell apart and now it's time, and
then I can just reflect with them. It's like spiritual
you know, therapy essentially, but the channeling comes in when
we resonate, you know, like we go into these resonating
frequencies that connect people and then I can offer the
insights that are seen or offer them prompts through my
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energy body. And there's you know, because it's connective where
they can see what was always there or reveal it
and allow it for themselves.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, let's talk a little bit more about channeling. It's great.
So what's the experience like, Like, how do you how do.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You know what's coming through versus you know, how do
you know that's otherworldly information versus just something you already know?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
It's both. So I'm only as yeah, clear a channel,
as you know. We're all not fully clear channels. So
we have our frames, our language, and hopefully we move
that aside and get the most We have to trust ourselves. Yeah,
it takes a lot of courage in some ways because
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you get these impressions and they kind of make sense
and you just have to be honest about what they are.
So I hesitate sometimes when I'm with people, but I've
learned over the years to offer the truth and you know,
be compassionate while doing it. And what it's like is
a sense so it's visual it's language, and it's a
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feeling and then if I share it, it confirms usually
a lot of stuff for people.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, okay, that's it's great. People come to you.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You mentioned sort of I like the term fissure, you know,
big changes in one's life, new chapters beginning. What about
physical like do you work with them that way or
is it more coaching in terms of strategy and life
moves in one's life? What about but what about physical ailments?
How does it work with that?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I do have people that I do energy healing, with
visualizations and even the process of connecting and sharing that
energy and moving it and asking uh Spirit or their
higher selves and just the language of it's kind of
like deliverance. It's sort of speaking through our higher power,
through spirit, great spirit whatever like God, totality, love, you know,
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to clear clear them, clear them of any attachments, any
you know, nefarious attachments. They are attachments. They have to
to ancient traumas or old karmic connections through people, places
and things. And I clear those, you know, through the
voice and language that I offer and through my energy.
And you know, it takes a lot because I have
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to be strong. You know that's a channeler and a
spiritual practitioner has to be very fit. I mean physically fit. Yeh.
I really into being physically energetically fit because if my
energy is blunted and I'm in what's called torpor like low,
like it's just not as clear because think about your
like bioelectric energy and it gets in the way and
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you know you're feeling tired or so it's very being
fine tuned. When I do what I do, it's important
because then I can offer that energy connection to clear
them and it's not me giving my energy, it's just
almost like supporting them with the impression of energy, so
they receive that impression that emboldens them, like they go,
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oh yeah energy. It's like right now if I act
a certain way, the frequency changes, right, And so that's
the shamanic thing, right, this is what it is the dance,
right we share, you know, and and so it's right
because I don't want to drain out, but I am
offering that and they template it and then they can
clean and clear you know, ailments potentially. But I'm not
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a doctor.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Like that, you know, just to be sure disclaimer. It's
really cool and you know you kind of mentioned it quickly,
but I know this from your work along the way,
the emphasis on love, you know, really just the approach,
and I think that love can maybe give you that
energy back, right. I mean, you're talking about working with
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the energy. But it's interesting where when we come from
the heart, right how I think that we can find
energy through through love, through giving, and then we receive
through that.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, I mean in the end, it's all that which
is and then there's these features like how do you
break through the knots, the armors. The energy is like
any moment we're in we can come back to innocence
and softness, which is very spacious. I always tell people
to slow it down because everyone's rushing good advice.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I reference that regularly, by the way, just so you know, I.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Mean I need it. The medicine is that this moment
your listeners or anyone listening back later, there is no
time when you can't go into surrender and grace, even
if there's pain still there, like the residual pain. Whatever
the issue is not going to just have solution. And
I'm not saying don't seek through wisdom, but to get
the channel which is from our higher selves from God.
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Whatever you want, right, you need to open up and
it's very physically energetically relaxing, and you have to slow
it down surrender again. What I can't control, what I can.
You come into resonance with allowing that you're becoming this
vessel for these higher messages to really point us back
to People call it their intuition, but it's not that simple.
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It's an actual mission that we each have to fulfill
our role on this planet, you know, in the galaxy,
in the cause most dimensionally, and for our karma clearing,
familial karma. Personal people have a problem with karma too,
But karma is just is like accumulated energy that needs
to move cause and effect.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
That's so great. I like that you're reminding people of
that definition of karma.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, it's not like yeah, you know, it's not like
reward and punishment. It's kind of like that and that
we feel it's like that. But ripening karma is all good.
Whatever's happening is all good. I mean, it sounds a
bit like no one likes that. It's kind of like
this is not all good where I am. I'm in jail,
it's not all good. But the cosmic point of view
is the ripening of karma is inevitable, so it's now
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or later, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, So I titled this show on being in the
world but not of it, and I really like that saying,
and I'm not even sure how I first learned that,
but and let's talk about it, because I think this
world is a tricky one to be in. I mean,
last time we spoke, is mentioned big changes going down.
I was kind of in shock, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And I'm not trying to get political here on the show.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's not how I roll, but just thought I would
ask again, we have to take in what understand what's happening,
and it could be on the you know, geopolitics, or
it could just be you know, I've got to make
sure that I pay my bills so that the lights
stay on. We've got to be practical and grounded to
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a certain extent, but yet also rise above. So why
don't you help us know how the best do that?
From your point of view?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Thanks, I could just say what works for me and
what doesn't work. I well, I recognize that I just
need I'm going to close this door. I'm getting a block.
It's really interesting it's good for your your listeners to
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see that. Yeah, it's called the middle path and people
know it. Prason, Geekya and Madyamika. It's like everything's emptiness.
Everything is like a dream. But if you go too
far that way, you're in dissociation, and if you go
the other way, you're in nihilism. Oh nothing matters because
I can't figure it out. So it's all the same.
They're all bad. I'm all bad, or I'm all good,
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I'm all bad. I can't decide. It's always this very binary, judgmental,
criticizing thing, or it's wishy washy piscy. And you know,
everything's emptiness is like a dream and it's coming and going.
Neither is true in your day. We have to attend
to things. We have responsibilities that have accumulated through our lives.
They can change, We can always change things, but we
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can't abandon everything because there's a moral center. So the
moral center can't be abandoned, either in the name of
spirituality or that's a bypass. But we have our eye
on a greater thing, which is that everything is unfolding
perfectly as people say. We are unfolding as best we
can perfectly. No matter what, we are flowering exactly as
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we should. We can make the process of flowering have
less resistance when we have prayer, gratitude and connection in
our lives. So you need if you're feeling right now
like you're disconnected, or you need better community, different more
authentic community, or to just let some people go in
your life and just keep telling ourselves we need to
keep them blah blah blah. I'm not saying abandoned family
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or all this if they're difficult. What I'm saying is
we need support in our community. So there's these these things.
Put it our masanga or you need the temple, you
need the home, you need the hearth, you need, the surroundings,
you need others. We are in a relational cosmos in
the third like three to upper dimensions. We're always relating.
We're bouncing off signature energies between discreete beings. You and
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I have different minds and energy fields, and we're weaving
right everyone is. So you need community. You need a
sense of devotion to something higher that can be the
cosmos and the greater unfolding and a sense that it
is greater than us. People. Everyone wants to be an
avatar of a lower demigogue a god these days, especially
New Age, just like I am the empowered. Believe me,
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we all need to be strong, empowered singular beings. But
it doesn't make us the supreme being, which is supreme
being is everything, so we it's a paradox. Last thing
I'll say is we do pray. I think a lot
of New Age people don't pray outwardly because they keep going. Well,
just dude, it's all self improvement. It's like, yes, the
middle path is self improvement and devotional prayer and humility.
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If you blend that and you have community, you're going
to be in this world, but you're going to be
on spiritual mission, which will dictate everything you're working on
and make it really clear what to do what not
to do.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Excellent, Okay, I you know that just that further enhances
my mission, right, I mean, it just makes it more
crystal clear. And I certainly invite others to keep an
eye open for what you're doing, josh as far is
other you know, teachings and opportunities to work with you
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along the way. So it's a it's Joshua Reichman dot com.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Just so you know about that, so that you can
keep up with what he's doing on this. So back
to community.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I was hesitating because I was like, well, I wanted
to talk about maybe the bigger pictures. So but let's
let's bring it back into I kind of want to.
I'd like to ask my guests how you think we
are doing, you know, just sort of as a species,
if you will. And I think with community, I'm we're
connected in so many ways with phones, and here we
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are zooming. You're in Canada, I'm in California, and yet
I don't know, are we more isolated just because we
can feel fulfilled via via digital devices.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, it's not just that, So people shouldn't shouldn't just
blame that. It's an energetic shift and an evolutionary shift,
and you can pick any piece of it and blame
it on that thing. Everyone does. They find something that's
the reason. It's the politics, is language, it's the technology,
or it's how cities are built, it's how my family
didn't know this, it's my attachment style, whatever, the spiritual
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energy of this sun, of the thing we've shifted into.
It's very simple. It's like this and other people talk
about this too. Whatever training you went through is now
it's a very activated time. So when people talk about
five D, the way I see it is this everything
we think, with intention and emotion and expression and visualization,
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we are essentially calling in at a way beyond faster rate.
People use the word quantum. It is like that. Whereas
in previous AONs, previous eras, even recent eras before this one,
which just started very recently, there was a time lag.
So now what you have is it's bottlenecked. The energy
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is bottlenecked. You see the world, Okay, all the systems
are falling down that don't work anymore at the same
time as new ones are coming technologically, energetically, culturally, spiritually.
You can't decide where it begins. But in yourself, in
all of us, we know that we're bottlenecked. So we're
both dealing with our own stuff right in front of us,
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and we're having these amazing abilities to intuit and generate
and create a manifest faster than ever. So how are
we doing is we've jump We've jumped into evolution at
an exponential rate, not just because of technology, but it's
a feedback because of our consciousness, language, our interdependence, the planet,
the poles, the sun. Everything can't pick one part. It's
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all interdependent, and we are evolving quicker. And if you
acknowledge that, it doesn't mean you have to race around.
Just feel, continue feeling, and stop controlling, because this time
is about focusing your feeling instead of trying to control
and analyze the control, analyze. People are going one way,
the feel into it, play joy. No beings are going
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in another direction.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So I would say I'm the latter, you know, as
far as going by feelings, because if I try to
figure it out, my head just wants to explode. And
yet I don't want to be Pollyanna. I don't want
to be an Ostrich with my head in the sand
when there's very real problems, which you probably will say
to me, how what is real?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
No, no, no, I go right in on. Uh. I get
I love. I talk about you know, worldly stuff all
the time. I go anywhere. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So, so it's interesting to find a balance between the two.
And I will say that since we last spoke, I
think I started this year, especially with what happened with
the fires in LA And I think I started this year.
I really felt it. Like I mentioned in a previous
interview that I was crying a lot in you know,
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just tearful, emotional teering a lot in the first couple
months of this year. I really felt maybe it was
just some sort of a release that needed to happen.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But it was.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It was better, and some of it wasn't only just
like boohoo, this is horrible. I wasn't that it was
touching because people were coming together and helping each other.
They were saving horses that were in barns and didn't
know where to go, and you know, like all kinds
of crazy stuff during the fires. So I just want
to say, though, I want to report in that I
kind of went through this real physical processing of the
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challenges of the top of the year into you know,
getting to a more neutral place about it. Like I
see it and it does make me spin, But I
mean I'll notice for sure if I if I'm outside
or I listened to you know, I have a lot
of birds where I live, and it's like yay birds,
and you know, I feel like much better very quickly.
So I just thought i'd set you up to talk
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to us a little bit more about tools like that
to help people get out of fee there is so
much fear, Josh, I mean in this town, especially in
La there's a lot of fear. It is, it's kind
of thick right now, and there's anger, and I don't know,
help me out, help me get back to that love
vibration please.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Well, I mean, something that's empowering is that every city,
every country, every land, every civilization, everywhere in this human
plane on this planet, and it had different eras that
weren't as dramatic. But for a while now have been
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churning and doing this, and there's larger things at play.
There's these sort of interdimensional conflicts, there's celestial conflicts. There's
there's a lot going on. So if you went outside
and your neighbor's garage was on fire, you could get
extremely upset. Now, if everyone's go on fire, you have
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a different feeling. And if the whole city was on fire,
to have a different feeling. If it's in another land,
you have a different feeling. So really, what it says
is that it's what we focus on and two things
we are allowed the New Age often bypasses everything. We
are allowed to feel angry despair. You can feel angry
and despair about something and change your mind to get
new info on it and change, like we just basically
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can't stuff our feelings. And what will happen is if
we go through As you know, it's kind of cliched,
but if we let the water is the fire and
the earth and the space and our bodies move right,
space being our thinking, our processing, right tears, water, fire, anger,
and the body vibrating in all the different ways, and
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grounding wherever it is with the earth. If we go
through it and feel and move especially move, move energy right,
sound and meditation is movement too, because you allow things
to move inside that can't move if we're always rushing.
So move in a Danse's coordinated to be a spiritual
warrior right now, because when you die, you're going to
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be an astral space between lives. It's going to be
the same chaotic, bewildering, beautiful, strange, scary. It just continues.
Your mind is what continues. Your perspective is what continues.
So train your perspective not to bypass anything, but to
allow everything to move. But keep that witness mind going.
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Always keep your witness mind a little bit there even
as you have these feelings. This is the middle path.
You're not denying anything. And you're not being cold unless
you're a psychopath or something. You're really living in the world.
Eat your chocolate cake and love it. Cry because of
what you see, but keep it moving, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I feel like, let's just let's just sit with that
for a minute. I mean, there's so much it's really great.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Thank you. I mean I find it very very helpful.
I really do.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Because again, one, even though I was sitting here telling
you like, oh, I'm getting better at this, I can
say neutral. Well, I didn't feel so neutral on Monday
morning when things were, you know whatever. We were seeing
some fierceness unfolding in downtown La. It was quite quite
concerning and just sad, to be honest. I you know,
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I go back and I remember, you know, one of
the first things I said to you in our November
conversation was my heart is broken and I and yet
exactly you know here you are saying to me like
there's almost a master plan here that you have to
know and trust.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Well, everything changes and my Tibetan teachers, teacher, one of
their teachers was stuck in a gulag, you know, in
a Chinese jail for a long time, and he learned
Mandarin and said that he had become a communist. He said, okay,
I'm not a Tibetan Buddhist anymore of a communist, and
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he totally convinced him that he was. And they said, okay,
we're going to send you over to India to convince
the other Tibetans who've gone there that they should be communists.
Because you are a former Lama monk and you now
speak Mandarin and you are a communist. You're a great ambassador.
So they let him out of jail. He had learned Mandarin.
He totally towed the party line, and he went across
the border and the minute he got into India, he
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put his robes back on and gave him the finger.
So how much discipline do you have to weather this
strangeness and hold on to your core? I mean, if
he can do that, you know, yeah, I like that,
you know, like he did that for real, and then it's.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Like all right, yeah no, and it's a great Well,
it's also a beautiful approach on multiple levels. One it
was non violent, and two it was stealth, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
It was like clever, it was.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
But I but discipline I think in all of this,
and I know that you're you know, I watch your
your reels on instea and you've got, you know, beautiful
movement exercises that you do and are quite inspiring that way.
So I think there's like that physical movement is part
of the discipline that we need to kind of stay
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centered and calm and to be able to slow down,
like you say.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, get into yourself, like we can lay on the couch,
and I do, like I fall a part all the time,
believe me. But notice that I can just go out
to the river in my self pity, despair, anger at
who knows, somebody something, some mind worm, some loop. Notice
I go on the cold for forty seconds. The sun
(30:40):
is shining when I get out, and there's hummingbirds around me,
and it is a completely different frequency and set of
chemicals in my physiological body and my perspective and my plans.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Change, your plans change, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I would do something different after I rearrange my energy. Yeah,
not follow the same track.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
So using nature as one of the as one of
the tools here to rearrange your energy is an invitation
to rearrange your energy.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah. So everyone saying that these days, we need to
do a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, No, it's it's a I like it.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I actually I've not heard that, even though I feel
like I know it, I haven't heard it phrase that way.
And I watch myself. I mean, I definitely look to
my mind, like you know, I'll be spinning trying to
push content out into the world. And it's just so
great to come back to one's practice. And I will say,
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as much as there's a lot of negativity out there
on social media, there's also just as much good I think.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, it's an intense time, right. You can if you're
looking onto the computer, a little black scrying device, you're
going to see the worst and the best in thirteen seconds, which,
by the way, is awful for our cognition, our consciousness,
our body. I mean, imagine people two hundred years ago.
You might be on your horse in a forest and
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you'd see like one person, yeah, and you know what
I mean, like and you'd be like hi, and have
like one little conversation and continue on in the birds
and animals. Now it's like you're getting this reflection of
humanity unending, and yeah, it speeds up our evolution. Your
psychology is fast, or intelligence is fast, but the emotional
body can't keep up. We're not evolved for this, but
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we're spiritually ready to evolve, but we have to be
really discerning and to be careful with our consciousness.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So a lot of times you hear how certain people
are going to be able to make that shift and
others aren't. What's your insight to something like that?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Well, I mean I have my own thoughts about it,
and everyone, including myself, this is a bit heavy, baby,
but the where I'm at with my spiritual practice has
no not a lot of room for That's the thing
with this era, there's no more room for the bs.
So I would say this, whatever we're coveting holding on to,
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it's a secret, it's a trauma, it's a confusion, it's
a neurosis, whatever it is, and you know what it is.
Everyone knows. There's a couple of main themes those If
you want to make a leap into grace where there's
more psychic activation and we know our mission in our role,
we must really address that stuff. These days, it can't
be there. And we have a really cool five D
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meditation group where we get blissed out or at least
feel inspired and then secretly we have our little thing
on the side, or our mind has that little shame box.
The integration period is full on, now, you know what
I mean, And so those things have to blend. You
have to really integrate, and so that who will quote
unquote make it into a world where there we can
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build harmonic things together.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Okay, I like that. What would you call it? The
blame box? What was it?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
What did you call it? I said, shame shame box.
But I just mean anything that's you know, I mean,
they're all illusions, right, They're all like you know, they're
not necessarily like solid stories. They're just our perception. So
they have to be examined.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Stories, right, I mean, it just goes getting stuck in
one story.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
All right, we're gonna pull it way back.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Talk to me about the Palladians a little bit. I
feel like I could use some coaching on that.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Uh. I mean, I really moved away from that piece
personally in my practice and in the work I do
my in weird because I wrote a book with you,
because because it had become really central to the channeling
i'd done. But someone said this, and I really believe this.
At this point, all of these these well there, I
wrote about it extensively in the book The Realized Light
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of the Twelve Dimensions that I put in out. A
huge amount of it's on or a large amount of
it's on the Pleadians. What they are, where they are,
how they communicate everything. But essentially they are like imagine
us in our higher nature, full of joy, immediate truth, knowing,
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and they work and connect to us, you know, what
we call telepathically. And there's a lot to say about
where they're from and all this stuff, but it's a
being state, So there's many beings. Like you could go
out and speak to a wolf in some ways, even
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if you're not psychic, you could. Everyone thinks they're not psychic,
but like the subtlety of your little movements or the
or the heat coming off your body, you know, maybe
from a mile away, there's there's sensitivities between beings. So
extend that to beings that are not terrestrial here and
work through mind and subtle frequencies, and that we're all
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connecting and we just need to focus how we connect
to any of these beings. Well, I like that, but
I don't currently think it's a great idea right now.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Okay, interesting, So if we were reading that, okay, can
you tell me why?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Or is this we need to follow our own council
and we're being prompted to trust ourselves.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yes, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
So it's a little bit of I don't want to
say we're outgrowing it, but we don't need it. I mean,
it's just like some of the tools I don't know.
I mean, maybe you don't need the crystal to hold
the crystal in meditation the way you need it.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
We don't need anything really, I mean, in the end,
you can strip it right down. It's just your perception.
I mean I went to a vipasta once and there
and I had beads with me, and they're like, you're
not going to have your beads in the bardos in
between lives. You may have like a dream emanation of
your beads for a few minutes, then they turn to
grapes and they're gone. And if you're addicted to your beads,
and then you go into the astral space and you're
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like I need my mantras and then it's like I
don't have my items. And what happens when your body
changes and you're like who am I in this world?
You know, so the spiritual dimensions. We can't get too
hooked on anything, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, yeah, fabulous.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
All right, final moments, final thoughts. How you know I
brought I brought it up before.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
How are we doing?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
So? You talk to people, right, You work with people
one on one. You've been doing this for years now,
And of course I'm not asking you specifics about people,
but I'd like to ask you know, as you as
you work with people and as you see more people
coming in, are we how stuck are we in our
stories or just other things that we're working through?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Are we getting People are letting go of the big
ones often later in life, you know, second half of life,
people are going through the hard work of truly letting
go of the few big themes that kept them stuck.
That they're just they have a deep spiritual distaste for
something now and so they're going, I just can't do
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it anymore, whatever that is, and that means they're open
again to the to their own evolution. So everyone's kind
of hit the wall, and it looks a little different
on everyone, but it kind of looks similar. Actually. It's
like relationship work, where to be like, what, I don't
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want to be here anymore. I mean, they just want
to go somewhere else, you know, and not everyone. Some
people are like, oh my gosh, I found this amazing
retreat home. I finally got all my dreams together. And
then they're like but and then there's this one thing
and you're like, you know, that's there, there there crutch
or they're the thing they're carrying, so there. But then
they're sick of it. Everyone wants to let go of.
So that's the people I work with. They're ready to
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let go of the thing they're scared to let go of.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
They're now ready, and you can help us identify those
things like maybe we don't know like we want to, but.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
People know. They just want permission that they're going to
be okay.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Okay, great, well, Ken, I'm not officially working with you
right now, but I'm going to ask you anyway, are
we all going to be okay?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Josh?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, humans are doing they are ultimately doing great. They're
just gonna have to mutate a bit and then let
go of the mutation and then come back to their core.
And the upgrades already happened. So just look to the
heart center, so everyone, it just means you're feeling more.
Feeling more is not a problem. It's good.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, I know, it's beautiful. Final words of inspiration for us.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I think I, you know, said before I got you know,
I pulled these cards like flowering, innocence, rebirth success, okay, laziness, suppression,
So those will probably be the the those are the blocks.
Watch up, laziness and suppressions.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Okay, yeah, sometimes it sounds like it would be kind
of fun to be lazy.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
No, this is good.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Those are blossoming, right, wasn't that one of the words
flowering yet lowering? Okay, we're going to take that one,
all right, listen, shiny as ever, Josh, thank you. It's
so great to see you, you know, enjoy your summertime
up in Canada. Come see us down and in California
some time, Sanctuary State. You're You're welcome here very much.
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And you know again, I I really appreciate the insights.
I think it's a combination of your your guidance there
there's it's so profound with much unpack and yet at
the same time it's just very simple, like marching marching
orders be in your heart.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Lots of lots of blessings to everyone there, and protection
and and safety and yeah for everybody.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
There, cool cheers.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Until the next time, I must stay thank you, all right, everybody,
Truth be told, transformation and again just trying to share
the light, giving opportunities to speakers that are doing great
work out there. I am here with Tony Sweet in
our studio in Burbank, which we are wrapping things up here.
But you'll still see us, just different shape and form.
I'm sure I'm confident of that, all right. Still on
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next time, Shine on.