October 9, 2024 • 45 mins
Maureen St. Germain discusses her book Living Your Best 5D Life.
Maureen J. St. Germain founded the St. Germain Mystery School, the Ascension Institute Mystery School, and Akashic Records International. An internationally recognized teacher and intuitive, she is also the creator of more than 30 guided-meditation CDs, now available on the app Illuminate. She is the author of 8 books, including Waking Up in 5D. She lives near Sedona, Arizona, and offers workshops worldwide.https://stgermainmysteryschool.com/
Host Bonnie Burkert melds the worlds of media and higher consciousness, sharing tools for transformation to find our highest truth and live our brightest life. https://www.instagram.com/yogi_bon/
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Maureen J. St. Germain founded the St. Germain Mystery School, the Ascension Institute Mystery School, and Akashic Records International. An internationally recognized teacher and intuitive, she is also the creator of more than 30 guided-meditation CDs, now available on the app Illuminate. She is the author of 8 books, including Waking Up in 5D. She lives near Sedona, Arizona, and offers workshops worldwide.https://stgermainmysteryschool.com/
Host Bonnie Burkert melds the worlds of media and higher consciousness, sharing tools for transformation to find our highest truth and live our brightest life. https://www.instagram.com/yogi_bon/
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/truth-be-told-paranormal--3589860/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello, this is Truth be Told transformation, and I'm Bonnie
Burker here to share tools for transformation to live your
highest truth. So one of the tools that I love
to contemplate is understanding energy vibrations, how that works and
what's changing out there in the world. So I've been
listening and wondering and trying to learn about ascension for
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a long long time and what does that mean. Rather
than try to explain it to you from my standpoint,
I'm very very honored to have an expert who's been
guiding us for many years on this very subject.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Welcome, Maureen Saint Jermaine.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Thank you and thank you for having me. It's a
real pleasure.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So you've got an upcoming book, so I wanted to
mention that on the top it's called Living your Best
five D Life. It's beautiful. So congratulations on that, Maureen,
and one give us a little preview. What's happening with
that and is this your first book? I don't know
that background about you.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's my seventh book.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Seventh, okay, And one.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Of the books that is very very well known is
Beyond the Flower of Life, and this is published by
Inner Traditions. But I publish it the first time in
sol over ten thousand copies worldwide and in multiple languages,
so I got picked up by a publisher. And then
there's three books on five D, so Waking Up in
five D is very very well known. And then the
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book after that was called Mastering Your five D Self
and then Living your Best five D Life. And right
away when you talked about ascension, I thought, oh, yeah,
that's right up my alley, and I'm so grateful that
you brought that up. I consider becoming fifth dimensional and
the ascension the same. So they're just two different ways
to refer to the same thing. And for those of
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you who really are still saying, yeah, well what an ascension,
it's two things. It's it's creating a world where we
have many, many capacities, many gifts that we're starting to learn,
and we're in a place of harmony with ourselves and others,
and we don't have to die to get there.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yes, okay, so that's that's loaded right there. I mean,
there's a lot for me to dissect about that we
don't have to so it's here now. And I've heard
some people say heaven on Earth right now.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
So I say that too.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, Okay, well, and I'm going to ask for some
help in understanding that very much so, But can before
we talk about specifically that we're going to lead up
to it with your work, the fact that you've been
doing this for a while and you've you know, you've
been author for this time on this subject.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So I'd like to take it a little further back.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And understand your path in your journey through this and
when you had an awakening and how you were able
to start articulating this.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I think I was born awake.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I knew things when I was a child that other
people didn't know. I was aware, for example, as a youngster,
that I was being watched, and I knew I was
being watched by ets. I knew that they were some
benevolent and some not, and I wasn't frightened. I just
knew that that's what the score was, and it was
kind of like.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
You know, so what I was.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Also, my parents are also very plugged in, so they
I was in an environment that it was safe to
explore my spirituality. And I studied a lot of the
great masters Edgar Casey and others, and gradually began to teach.
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I started out with study groups, you know, little book
clubs here and there, and then after one of my
sons came back from college, I began to travel as
I taught the marcaba and other work that accompanied the
macaba or maybe expanded what the micaba would do and be.
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So one of the things I do is teach people
how to program their marcaba. And in case you don't
know what I'm talking about, this is the shape that's
called the marcaba, and it is a shape that you
would build around your body, and I do have training
for that. So it's a very powerful tool because it
helps us become fifth dimensional really quick.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Earned it for people that aren't seeing this on YouTube
and here and listening to the podcast, the mercaba is
to pyramid, basically the structure of a pyramid that are yeah,
there you go, thank you, thank you. Geometry class that
I obviously don't remember.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
The tetrahedon two tetrahedrons that do look like a pyramid.
They've got four sides, but one of them is the base,
so you think of it as a as a three
sided pyramid, but the base is the fourth side, and
then it's equally nested with another pyramid that's facing the
other directions, so you have two points and it looks
like a star. It looks like the Star of David
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if it were two dimensional, but three dimensionally. It's two
tetrahedrons that are nested.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, I had I was guided to do a meditation
with myself in the middle of that, like envisioning being
in the center of the mercaba and that the lower
pyramid or triangle was spinning. I think it was counterclockwise
and the one that was pointing up was the opposite.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Direction, was clockwise.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I have to I have to look at my notes
and I remember trying to envision that meditation. But anyway,
I just know since you're told me that this is
an area especially.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Actually we actually teach not to do that, okay, And
the reason is because this is a whole unit. It's
one unit, even though there's you can separate them into
you know, two tetrahedrons.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I don't know if this is very visible, but it's
one unit. So a tech the merkaba is a star
tetra ratan, which it means it's two testra readings that
are nested and then you have three of them, so
you were correct in the alternate spinning, but instead of
spinning the top of the bottom, you would spin one
whole star tetra read in one way, and then a
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second and that represents the mental body, by the way,
and then you spin a second one to the right,
and that's the emotional body, and then the third one
represents a physical body and it doesn't move, and they
are in a ratio that's very well known. It's the
Golden Mean ratio. But it's set to here so that
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you can travel from here somewhere else energetically, spiritually, and
activating this field around your body creates an impenetrable field
that anchors you to your fifth dimensional self you're having
on ourself. So it's pretty powerful and it becomes the
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basis for so much other work that we do. And
the macaba isn't the only way to be fifth dimensional,
but it is one way.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
We know that it's.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Pretty safe, pretty easy, and pretty valuable to learn, so
that's why we teach it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Excellent sacred geometry, right yeah, yeah, So what is it
doing to us? So having so working with sacred geometry,
with that, with that form, with the form of the merkabot,
how would you explain what it's doing to us.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
What it does is levels us up to our more
evolved version of ourselves. So today you can have a
higher self that you plug into and bring it into
your physical body and use that to help you make
decisions or choices. But when you have an activated marcaba,
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you automatically know and understand the reality in a much
richer way. So it's a little bit like, you know,
when the Internet firse came out, everybody had dial up
and then they went to a certain level of direct
lines and now people have Wi Fi. But imagine if
you could have a five G connection or a twelve
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G connection, you'd be able to access faster, and you'd
be able to access more, you'd be able to download more.
And so the whole idea is the Marcaba elevates our
is human beings, and we're becoming that human being anyway.
It's a little bit like saying everybody's going to become
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fifth dimensional, whether they're ready or not. So by activating
your macaba, you are at the front of the curve,
and then you're helping others behind you because your vibration
makes it easier for other people to level up. So
you know, as you listen to this and you think, oh, yeah,
I want to do that, even that intention is going
to make it easier for you to become a Marcaba
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meditator than if you hadn't made that intention.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Excellent, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And I know that you were telling us your path
or you were giving us a little information about the trajectory.
And then I asked you, you know, more specifics on
the Marcaba and you said that you work with people
specifically to learn that if that's a meditation you want
to do, and I know that yes, yeah, So if
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you want to tell us a little bit more about
your work with people and how you got into that,
I mean, have you always been a guide for people,
you know, a wise teacher or did you start off
in kind of with a day job somewhere and you
know what part of the country were you in? Were
you in the US? And just you know, we'd love
to know this where this wisdom is the wellspring of
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this wisdom.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
So I grew up on a farm, and like I said,
both my parents were plugged in, so they knew things
and they understood this work. When I went off to college,
I continued to pray and meditate and you know, practice
my devotions. And then I got married and had a family.
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I have four sons, all grown, and then I was
in the corporate world as my youngest was, you know,
starting school and stuff. And I worked in the corporate
world for I don't know, fifteen or more years and
continued to build my knowing and understanding practices and study groups,
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and then I got trained to teach the Macraba, as
I started to explain, and then I told Spirit I
was willing to travel to teach this work. And so
what ended up happening is I was invited all over
the world. I have personally taught the Macraba and other teachings,
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the Acasia records and other work all over the world
in twenty four different countries. And I would average, you know,
there's fifty two weekends and a year, and I think
I was on the road forty five to forty six
of them. So I would travel to a different city
every single week. And then at one point I began
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teaching in China, and I taught there for three weeks
at a time, and then I'd come home for two
months and then three weeks at a time, like that
and that went on for seven years and so I
lost count. And I also in that cycle of time,
took people to China, I mean took people to Egypt
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and Machu Picchu. We did, We went to Tibet, we
went to Peru. And I have a big connection in Egypt.
So I started going to Egypt in two thousand and
two and I've been there so many times that I
quit counting at fifteen. So I have a strong connection
with Egypt. And although I don't have a trip to
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Egypt this year at this time, but we're talking about
the possibility of doing another Egypt trip. And I'd also
like to do another Tchibbet trip. So there's lots of
things on the horizon and I just haven't quite you know,
put that together. And then one other thing I want
to talk about, and that is the app. I have
a bone app of guided meditations and it's called Illuminate,
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and it is a wonderful collection of over thirty of
the guided meditations that I've written. It's I don't know
if you can see it, but it's got a purple box. No,
it's not coming through color wise anyway, those of you
who are listening. It's a purple box with a gold
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arrow that's got a curl to it.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
It's actually the five ratio.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And then the app is free and there's seven free
guided meditations, and then if you want to subscribe, you
can and get access to the rest of them. And
we're always adding new meditations to it, so it's always
something there for you. And also the protocol to connect
with your higher self is in there, and that's also free,
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and that's extraordinarily powerful. I have used my higher self
to know what to do next. And as a matter
of fact, I'm in the middle of a course that
I'm teaching with another teacher and we were talking about
the higher self connection. And one of the things that
I tell people is that when you learn how to
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connect with your higher self in this very logical, reasonable way,
you can stop being afraid. And you know, I was
born I'm a rabbit by the Chinese astrology, and sometimes
I do, you know, get afraid, and it's part of
my nature, but I always follow my higher self.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
It's a free will choice.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And what I discovered and we were in the record
today and the question was what are my fears? And
I was told, well, you're been accused of being afraid.
But the only thing that you're not doing is when
you feel that way, just check in with your higher
self and you'll know what the next thing to do is.
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So I highly recommend that all of our audience learn
how to connect with your higher self, because then you
can know what teacher to study with, you can know
what body of knowledge to learn, you can know where
their body's got a good podcast this week.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
You know all of these cool things.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And what's amazing is sometimes you'll be told just go
to the internet and scroll and then you'll you'll be
attracted to something. But that's because you've listened to your
higher self. I have so many wonderful stories about the
higher self and following it and the phenomenal outcomes.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I can relate to that very very well.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And I think that there's maybe different terms that people
would use for it. I mean, would you say that
the intuition and higher self are the same thing?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I think maybe?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Okay, good, you want to tell us a little distinction
distinction between the two.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
The reason, yeah, the reason I'm so uh the word a.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Quickler, Yeah that was a quick now, so I was
just like definitely hard hard.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
No, I apologize for interrupting you. Oh please, it's okay. So,
so the reason that you're into and your higher self
are not the same is because your higher self is you.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Your higher self.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Is an aspect of you that's already plugged in to
higher knowledge and higher wisdom. And what you're doing is
you're getting your higher self wisdom and bringing it into
your three D self or maybe your five D self,
and using that knowledge in ways that you wouldn't have
been able to any other way. And it's important to
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understand that because everybody is learning to bring their higher
self in now. The intuition could be your angels or
your guides, or your Grandma that's watching out for you,
and it could also just be you reading your own
aura and your own field around you. But the higher
self is more detailed, more accurate, more current. So I
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asked one time what was the difference between your intuition
and your higher self? And my guide showed me a
time when people watch TV on a network show and
then they would get interrupted for a weather update. You know,
there's going to be hail or there's going to be
a tornado coming or something like that, and they said,
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your higher self information is always situation normal update, so
it's like everything's the same, but then you get an update.
So that's why you want to have your higher self
connection because you could be comfortably, you know, doing something
in your home and the cars parked out in the
driveway and you haven't pulled it into the garage yet,
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and then you.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Get this message, go get.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Your car in the garage now, and you do, and
something wild happens in your driveway or the rain starts
or the hail starts. But it's so incredible because once
you do the six weeks of practice, and that practice
period is very very important, asking unimportant, insignificant questions for
forty five days. What happens after that is that you're
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connection is solid and you can know for sure it's
your higher self. Then when you get an idea, okay,
add more salt to this recipe, you can say, is
this my higher self telling me to do this? And
if you get a yes, then you know for sure,
and pretty soon that higher self voice is distinct and unique.
A lot of people get good higher self information, but
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they think it's their own ego, they think it's their
own personality, and so some people would think that their
intuition is their higher self. But there's a very important
distinction that each of us can make by insisting that
it's only our higher self that's giving us information because
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our higher self cannot lie to us, and our higher self.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Is always right.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That's strong. Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I like that, and I feel like that's a nuance
in my life that I'd really like to improve upon.
I mean, this is very this is inspiring. All the
different different tool again I use the word tools for transformation,
but you have many Moreene.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
This is really beautiful.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yep, I got a whole tool box.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Let's take it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Let's take take it back to the book a little bit.
Please and tell me what's different. You know, what's happening
over time.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I think that I actually had that book waking up
in five d I think that that's on my shelf
at home now.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
That let me see it.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, I had.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
That was a Christmas present from Teresa. Hi, Teresa, Yes,
and I love that. Do you talk about dragons in that?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I do? I do?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Can we talk about dragons? I love dragons. I'm fascinated
with dragons. What did you say about dragons in this book.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
In that book, well, the dragons are back.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
They used to be in this real the interacting with humans,
and they were chased out.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Why because.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Dragons are about clarity, They're about making our path straight
when there's and so what happened is the dragons were
so good at helping people see the truth that when
I'll call it the powers that be, who knows what
that means?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
That the powers that be.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Wanted to change the reality that we understood and they
wanted to control how we saw the experience that we
were in. So the dragons came became extinct because they
were being chased out and they were being slaughtered, and
they went to a higher dimension. Dragons are elemental beings
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that have free will.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
So they're different than.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Your cat or your cow, or your dog or your horse,
and those animals are following their nature and they can
have personalities, they can have souls move in and communicate
with you in lots of ways. But the dragons are
able to interact with you at a higher level. So
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you can call in the dragons when you're stuck in traffic.
You can call in the dragons. If you're writing a
book and you're stuck, you can call on the dragons
to help you find the right publisher, and the dragons
give you clarity. So let's say you're facing a situation
that you really need to know Gosh, does this person
tell me the truth or not? So you could call
upon your dragons and ask them to help you know
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for sure what is the truth of this particular matter.
In addition, you can call in your dragons through meditation.
That's one of the meditations on the app. And you
can learn your dragon's name. If you learn your dragon's name,
you don't share it with anybody because it is the
equivalent of you becoming their human. So then they dedicated
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themselves to you and they're going to help you. And
that also then they'll inspire you to call upon them
when you can you need to. And I have so
many wonderful stories in the book, and the dragons are
just they We've been like to so much about the
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reality we live in, about what's really what we're capable
of that with the dragons around, now that they're back,
we can learn faster, we can remember more, we can
get clarity and trust more.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
That's wonderful to hear that they are back, and definitely
wish to connect with them, and I think there's just
become a greater fascination specifically with dragons. But when I
think about so much of what we're talking about, the
fact that more and more people are understanding this, Maureene,
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don't you find it exciting? I mean, again, you've been
you've been teaching us for a long time. And when
I hear about your worldly travels, bringing this message to
so many, teaching so many, that means that that many
more people are knowing about this, knowing how to do
a meditation with the Merkova, to experience experiences with you know,
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with the dragons, and having an understanding of what a
five D life is. I mean that was very, very esoteric,
probably even as recent as ten years ago. How exciting
is it that we've got that I've got a show
that I can talk about this, that you're again audiences
all over that want to see you and learn. I mean,
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it's got it's incredibly rewarding.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
So one of the things that's new in this book
is I teach an eight D Marcraba, which is built
upon an Ica said, do dicahedron, and we actually ask
you to build one so you buy some dowls and
instructions are very veryise. Each one of the crosses in
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this are in five.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Meaning the ratio of one point six.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
But the relationship between the little finger and the base
of the palm that's your little finger is one, and
then the palm top of the palm to the bottom
is in one point six eight, And every bone in
the body is like this. It's an expansion of this relationship.
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It's also known as the golden mean. So many of
you've heard of the term the golden mean, and the
golden mean is simply this magical ratio that shows up everywhere,
and it's so important and so powerful that I have
taken to calling it source code. Okay, it's even in
our DNA.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, that is that's pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I really I'm hanging on to your every word here.
I'm like, I want to know this. I want to know,
Like it's just it's the kind of thing that if
I had to write an essay about it, it would
be beyond my grasp. But maybe I could get some
multiple choice questions right on this. I mean, it is fascinating,
and we're talking this is science here popularized and remember
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the DA Vinci Code. Remember that book they started talking
about that. I got very I think that's a that
probably provided some pretty mainstream understanding, a certainly awareness, maybe
not understanding, but awareness of this.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yes, in the Da Vinci Code they called a particular
relationship aeros gamos, and it had to do with the
relationship between a man and a woman, and that by
creating this balance, and it's not equal, it's unequal, but
it's important because it works in both directions. By creating
this union, it could produce heart opening and mind connection
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to make it easy to access your divine self. Beautiful
and it's funny, but you know, I I have always
had this affinity for numbers in geometry, and I think
I could have taken geometry class in high school and
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passed every test without even I didn't study, I didn't
need to, but there was this quality of just that
it was like mother's milk for me. It was just
super special. And when you begin to realize that everything
in the universe is based on grids and relationships, we
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begin to comprehend that if we know this, and we
know this about ourselves, we can use this knowing to
co create the reality we want and more importantly, we
are in a place a huge transition, because I believe
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we're all Source, but Source as an entity or an
identity of God. Source has concluded that we're done with
this particular game. We're done hurting each other, we're done
fighting wars. And one of the masters that I channel
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said this very succinctly. He said, the game of three
D is over. And then he said the game will
end when there are no more players. So the more
we engage in our three D behavior, you know, it's
not fair. I don't like what she said to me.
You know, this sucks, whatever, those kinds of judgments. The
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more we engage in that, then we get stuck in
this three D world, whereas if we're in five D,
we're gonna look at situations say, you know what, it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Didn't hurt my feelings.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
It's too bad they feel that way, But I'm fine.
And the final thing that he said, Son of Kamara
said was if the game ends when there are no
more players, will you be the first.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
To leave or the last? Right inspiration, I'm.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Out, absolutely, I love what you're saying. It's it's really true.
And I you know, I always ask the question of
my guests. So, how do you think we're doing so
specifically to you?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
You know, are there are the players transitioning at all?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I feel like in so many ways I have I
because I was in the corporate world as well, and
I think about the hours and hours I used to
just be so worried about the politics of the job.
Why did that person, what did that mean in that email?
And you know, things like that, crazy crazy things in
my brain that I worried about these people that I
can't even remember the names of people that we're so
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concerning to me at one time. And really how liberating
it is to just become free of that and just
know that it's not real or it's not me, it's them.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
There's different ways of.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
There's different ways of interpreting it, and I think liberating
oneself from the hamster wheel that is, I don't know,
modern living, the three D world. It's very very base
fear based living.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
You know, I love your word liberating.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
It's so it's so clear that we have a choice.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, we have a choice.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
And when we recognize that we have that choice.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
You know, if you worked in the corporate world, like
you know, there's this big money thing. You know, I've
got a family, I've got college to pay for, you know,
all these things that keep us tied to that hamster
wheel as you described it, and to suddenly say, you
know what, I'm going to take a I'm going to
take a chance. I don't know how it's going to
work out, but I'm going to do it. And for
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those of you who are listening, that's exactly what I did.
But I also said I'm ready to walk away from
this hamster wheel, and that's all I said. I didn't
take any outside action.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
But three weeks later I got fired.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
So it was pretty clear that my statement I'm ready
to step into this full time was my telling the
universe okay, hit me, hit me, yes. And you know
that was a very fearful experience in the moment.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
For a moment, yes, and then you know, you get
over it.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
And so I think the biggest thing about fear is
that it does hold us back. And when we start
to look at fear and we ask ourselves, well, wait
a minute, what is fear for? And fear is to
keep us from making the same mistake twice. And if
we recognize that, we don't have to look at everybody
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else's mistakes and say I might make that one. Instead,
we can say, okay, I choose. I choose to follow
my guidance. I choose to follow my higher self. My
high self is telling me I need to quit this job,
but I'm afraid to. So I'll just sign up and say, Okay,
I'm ready and see what happens. You know, so let
the universe take care of you. And interestingly enough, when
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when I first left the corporate world, I chose to
always tell the truth. So those of you who've ever
collected unemployment, when you get let go, you know you
have to act. You have to report if you even
if you have an amway business or anything. And I
was already teaching at this level, so I reported my
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work that I was doing that was part time, but
I also reported my previous hours, and I was working
so many hours as a lobbyist that were documented legally
that the guy who evaluated me looked at this and said,
I'm not even going to count your part time job
because you're already working so many hours in the other job.
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I know you couldn't be putting that much time into it.
So they didn't even count the income that I had
been getting. So I got full unemployment and suddenly my
workshops filled. I was okay, I completely replaced my corporate money.
And when I took that leap, I wasn't sure that
was going to work out.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, so yeah, I love that. I love that, And
it's just it's in alignments. I think it's just when
you start living your truth. I mean that's really the program.
Is truth be told to me?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That is the truth is when you start to really
have the courage to live in a place of doing
what you love. And I mean I understand I'm a
practical person. You know, I got to pay the rent
and things like that. But I think living through living
by spirit, which is another another term. I would say,
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you've got a more sophisticated way of describing it by
living in the fifth dimension, by living in five D.
So I'd like to hear a little bit more what's
in the new book, please, because I want my best
life for sure.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
So I also talk about how to access higher dimensions
through your connection with your higher self.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
On the app, there's.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
A meditation called the Golden Bull, and we talk about
how you can activate this energy sphere around the body.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
And this.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Consists of the sinus cavities that are here below your cheeks,
below your eyes, rather in your cheeks, and then on
the side of your head, and also in the back
of the head. And science doesn't even know what all
these sionis cavities are doing. And I came across I
had been given this information, but I wasn't clear in
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my own mind on how to use it. And then
I came across a quote that referred to the golden
bowl and then the silver cord, and it said before
the golden bowl is broken and the silver cord breaks.
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So in the process of meditating on that, I began
to understand that this line around the head, that's kind
of where you're if you were a Native American Indian,
and if you had a headband around your head, it
would be right there, it would be right about your eyebrows,
and then across the back. I call it the satellite
dish to call home. And what it does is opens
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you up to become a to improve your reception to
your source, to your own wisdom channel. So it's another
way to become connected. One of the things that I
do describe is what happens when you die, and that's
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in chapter three, and I describe that, excuse me, chapter five.
What I describe is how you have choice when you
pass that you're going to have a life review. Lots
of people know about that. But then you're going to
be greeted by family, but it's usually not your real family.
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It's a hologram. It's a trap to get you to
go with them. And if you say no, I'm going
to say and wait to go with God. I'm interested
in going with God. You go through a tunnel, a
dark tunnel that makes you scared or afraid because it's
literally like the portal you see on some of the
Star Trekker Star Star Wars movies where they walk through
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a tunnel to get to another location, right, and so.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
It's like that.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It's darkness, and then you connect back with source and
it doesn't mean you're going to lose your identity. But
you don't have to reincarnate. You do not have to
come back to Earth if you don't want to. You know,
many people who are here as light bearers, as way showers,
as helpers are an overwhelm because the darkness has been
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so big here. There's two things I want to say
about that. The first one is, if you're so overwhelmed
that you want to exit, you're probably not doing your
job and you need to find a way to step
into that responsibility. Even if you start a study group
at a local bookstore, even if you just take a
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class to learn more, when you need to move forward
in your unresolved energy about this is not a good
place to be. And then the second thing is the
rest of us, all of us really that are connected
to this kind of information, are here to help. We're
here to help each other. We're here to help whoever
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wants our help. And it doesn't mean we're supposed to
proselytize or go door to door anything like that. It
means we learn these tools for ourselves, we practice them,
and then when someone comes to us and say how
come you're always happy, you can say, well, you know,
I meditate, Well, how come things always turn out right
for you?
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Well?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I do manifestation work and I hope old space for
the highest and best outcome. We had a funny incident yesterday.
I was flying home from an event and I had
gotten bumped up to first class, which was very nice,
and the woman in the seat behind me. When we
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were told that the plane needed something to fix and
we all had to disembark, she said, oh, one more
thing that always you know, and she starts going into
this little rand about how, you know, bad things always
happen when she travels. So I turned around with a
smile and I said, don't say that, you're going to
jinx us all. And then another lady chimed in and said, yeah,
(38:39):
you know, think positive thoughts. And it was a very friendly,
sweet exchange, and the woman who was speaking, you know,
laughed and said, yeah, I shouldn't be saying these things.
And then when we were finally home and our destination city,
I turned to her and I said, now tell me
when you're traveling next is I'm not flying with you again?
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And of course she cracked up, and it was mant
as a tease, but it will also help her remember,
choose what you want, don't ruminate about what you don't want.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
That is such a beautiful story, and I like, I
like that you you spoke with her with lightness, But
how beautiful that a fellow passenger was also sort of
chucking agacouraging, worrying the people are out there that we're
talking to each other. There's so much of this. I think,
you know, people understanding taking the higher path, and I
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just I have you. I guess talking to you and
hearing a story like that and knowing the beautiful work
that you're doing and that it's getting through to just
two thousands of people doing what you do, it just
gives me incredible encouragement that we are up leveling. And
I don't know, maybe I'm starting to understand that heaven
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on Earth term a little bit better after this conversation.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Well, I'd like to go into that what you asked
me earlier, you know, about how are we doing? And
the heaven on Earth thing is really really important because
I was told to ask for a day of heaven
on Earth for me and for everyone I'm in contact
with and everyone I am in contract with. And it
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all started with this crazy another airline story. I was
getting off the plane and the airline employee greeted me,
and it was one of those crazy cycles where I
was getting off the plane, going home, changing out my
suitcase and coming back to the airport a couple hours
later and getting on a flight going to the East
coast from the West coast. So she greets me, and
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without even thinking, I said something like, oh, that's my
day from and I'm not going to say the word
because I don't want to answer that back at my consciousness.
And she looked me kind of funny, and I realized
what came out of my mouth, and I was so embarrassed.
I said, well, I'm having a day of heaven on earth,
and that's because I'm flying with United. So I come
home home and there's two inches of water on the
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basement floor. There's a pipe that has sprung a leak
in the middle of the walls, and we have to
find it, and I use my higher self to find
out where to cut into the walls.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Which worked out perfectly.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
The plumber came when he said he would. He only
charged me one hundred dollars. My neighbor came and helped
me with putting fans in the wall. Everything worked out perfectly.
So now I'm on including the airline saying we'll let
you change to the later flight. And then I get
a call on my way home from the bank. I've
made a deposit. That's how long ago this was. Nowadays,
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you know, which just count the money. We don't have
to make a trip to the bank anyway. I walk
in the door and my phone is ringing, my landline phone,
and I pick it up and it's United Airlines saying
the flight that you were going to take is running
an hour late, and so also is the one after that.
So if you take this flight that you're booked on,
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because I was now booked on the second one, you
are going to miss your connections to the East Coast.
Is there any way you can get on the earlier flight,
which is now leaving one hour later than the original schedule.
And as I was driving home, I was getting the message,
you know, you only needed one more hour and you
would have been able to make that flight. So of
course I said, yes, my suitcase is in the car.
I'm now sitting on the airplane on the earlier flight,
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which is, you know, like an hour later, and I'm
sitting there just contemplating, Oh my goodness, all these things
just went.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Boom boom boom boom boom. How did all that happen?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
And my guides came in and said, you asked for
a day of heaven on Earth, and I thought, oh
my goodness, I'm going to do that.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
The next time I have a chocolate block day.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Well, the third time I had a day that was
really full, it occurred to me I could ask for
it every day, and so can you.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Okay, I will thank you.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
So I mean I like that Earth.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I was like right here, right anchored in.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
I appreciate that permission because I think that maybe there's
sort of a modesty or oh it's good.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Enough, but right are your shelfy basement.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yes you're letting us know, no, just to shine on,
to be your side.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
I'm asking for a day of having on earth for
me and everyone I come in contact with, and everyone
i'm in contract with. Now, the contact with that's you
and I talking, that's you know, the person I buy
my lunch from. But the contract one. That's cool because
that means maybe I don't talk to my webmaster, maybe
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I don't talk to the person who services my car,
but I'm making the call for them. They're going to
have a great day as well. Good And it's so amazing,
so so amazing, because everyone around you gets leveled up
right with you, like you're the tide and you've raised
all the boats in the harbor.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I like that analogy very very much. Worry, there's so
much to unpack here.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I really appreciate your time. I know you're in Sidona,
is that correct?
Speaker 4 (44:10):
Yeah, that's home base. I'm so happy.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Amongst all your travels.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Well, I really yesterday, but I'm in Sidona today.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
You know, I appreciate you taking your time because you're
doing so much and I know that. I first I
tried to connect with you around the Conscious Life Expo.
Will you be doing that in twenty twenty five, Yes.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
I will. I will be there so we can connect there.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Oh my gosh, that would be if I don't see
you in Sidona before now. This has been amazing. Best
wishes for your book, Living Your Best five Day Life.
You've given us some great feel, a real true feeling of.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
What that can be like.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
And I feel like you are just such a beautiful
example of that.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
It's a true pleasure speaking with you.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Thank you, Thank you again, Thank you for having me,
and thank you to all of you who are listening.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
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of love and shine on
Hello, this is Truth be Told transformation, and I'm Bonnie
Burker here to share tools for transformation to live your
highest truth. So one of the tools that I love
to contemplate is understanding energy vibrations, how that works and
what's changing out there in the world. So I've been
listening and wondering and trying to learn about ascension for
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a long long time and what does that mean. Rather
than try to explain it to you from my standpoint,
I'm very very honored to have an expert who's been
guiding us for many years on this very subject.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Welcome, Maureen Saint Jermaine.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Thank you and thank you for having me. It's a
real pleasure.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So you've got an upcoming book, so I wanted to
mention that on the top it's called Living your Best
five D Life. It's beautiful. So congratulations on that, Maureen,
and one give us a little preview. What's happening with
that and is this your first book? I don't know
that background about you.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's my seventh book.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Seventh, okay, And one.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Of the books that is very very well known is
Beyond the Flower of Life, and this is published by
Inner Traditions. But I publish it the first time in
sol over ten thousand copies worldwide and in multiple languages,
so I got picked up by a publisher. And then
there's three books on five D, so Waking Up in
five D is very very well known. And then the
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book after that was called Mastering Your five D Self
and then Living your Best five D Life. And right
away when you talked about ascension, I thought, oh, yeah,
that's right up my alley, and I'm so grateful that
you brought that up. I consider becoming fifth dimensional and
the ascension the same. So they're just two different ways
to refer to the same thing. And for those of
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you who really are still saying, yeah, well what an ascension,
it's two things. It's it's creating a world where we
have many, many capacities, many gifts that we're starting to learn,
and we're in a place of harmony with ourselves and others,
and we don't have to die to get there.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yes, okay, so that's that's loaded right there. I mean,
there's a lot for me to dissect about that we
don't have to so it's here now. And I've heard
some people say heaven on Earth right now.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
So I say that too.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, Okay, well, and I'm going to ask for some
help in understanding that very much so, But can before
we talk about specifically that we're going to lead up
to it with your work, the fact that you've been
doing this for a while and you've you know, you've
been author for this time on this subject.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So I'd like to take it a little further back.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And understand your path in your journey through this and
when you had an awakening and how you were able
to start articulating this.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I think I was born awake.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I knew things when I was a child that other
people didn't know. I was aware, for example, as a youngster,
that I was being watched, and I knew I was
being watched by ets. I knew that they were some
benevolent and some not, and I wasn't frightened. I just
knew that that's what the score was, and it was
kind of like.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
You know, so what I was.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Also, my parents are also very plugged in, so they
I was in an environment that it was safe to
explore my spirituality. And I studied a lot of the
great masters Edgar Casey and others, and gradually began to teach.
(04:02):
I started out with study groups, you know, little book
clubs here and there, and then after one of my
sons came back from college, I began to travel as
I taught the marcaba and other work that accompanied the
macaba or maybe expanded what the micaba would do and be.
(04:25):
So one of the things I do is teach people
how to program their marcaba. And in case you don't
know what I'm talking about, this is the shape that's
called the marcaba, and it is a shape that you
would build around your body, and I do have training
for that. So it's a very powerful tool because it
helps us become fifth dimensional really quick.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Earned it for people that aren't seeing this on YouTube
and here and listening to the podcast, the mercaba is
to pyramid, basically the structure of a pyramid that are yeah,
there you go, thank you, thank you. Geometry class that
I obviously don't remember.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
The tetrahedon two tetrahedrons that do look like a pyramid.
They've got four sides, but one of them is the base,
so you think of it as a as a three
sided pyramid, but the base is the fourth side, and
then it's equally nested with another pyramid that's facing the
other directions, so you have two points and it looks
like a star. It looks like the Star of David
(05:28):
if it were two dimensional, but three dimensionally. It's two
tetrahedrons that are nested.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, I had I was guided to do a meditation
with myself in the middle of that, like envisioning being
in the center of the mercaba and that the lower
pyramid or triangle was spinning. I think it was counterclockwise
and the one that was pointing up was the opposite.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Direction, was clockwise.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I have to I have to look at my notes
and I remember trying to envision that meditation. But anyway,
I just know since you're told me that this is
an area especially.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Actually we actually teach not to do that, okay, And
the reason is because this is a whole unit. It's
one unit, even though there's you can separate them into
you know, two tetrahedrons.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I don't know if this is very visible, but it's
one unit. So a tech the merkaba is a star
tetra ratan, which it means it's two testra readings that
are nested and then you have three of them, so
you were correct in the alternate spinning, but instead of
spinning the top of the bottom, you would spin one
whole star tetra read in one way, and then a
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second and that represents the mental body, by the way,
and then you spin a second one to the right,
and that's the emotional body, and then the third one
represents a physical body and it doesn't move, and they
are in a ratio that's very well known. It's the
Golden Mean ratio. But it's set to here so that
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you can travel from here somewhere else energetically, spiritually, and
activating this field around your body creates an impenetrable field
that anchors you to your fifth dimensional self you're having
on ourself. So it's pretty powerful and it becomes the
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basis for so much other work that we do. And
the macaba isn't the only way to be fifth dimensional,
but it is one way.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
We know that it's.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Pretty safe, pretty easy, and pretty valuable to learn, so
that's why we teach it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Excellent sacred geometry, right yeah, yeah, So what is it
doing to us? So having so working with sacred geometry,
with that, with that form, with the form of the merkabot,
how would you explain what it's doing to us.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
What it does is levels us up to our more
evolved version of ourselves. So today you can have a
higher self that you plug into and bring it into
your physical body and use that to help you make
decisions or choices. But when you have an activated marcaba,
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you automatically know and understand the reality in a much
richer way. So it's a little bit like, you know,
when the Internet firse came out, everybody had dial up
and then they went to a certain level of direct
lines and now people have Wi Fi. But imagine if
you could have a five G connection or a twelve
(08:46):
G connection, you'd be able to access faster, and you'd
be able to access more, you'd be able to download more.
And so the whole idea is the Marcaba elevates our
is human beings, and we're becoming that human being anyway.
It's a little bit like saying everybody's going to become
(09:07):
fifth dimensional, whether they're ready or not. So by activating
your macaba, you are at the front of the curve,
and then you're helping others behind you because your vibration
makes it easier for other people to level up. So
you know, as you listen to this and you think, oh, yeah,
I want to do that, even that intention is going
to make it easier for you to become a Marcaba
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meditator than if you hadn't made that intention.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Excellent, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And I know that you were telling us your path
or you were giving us a little information about the trajectory.
And then I asked you, you know, more specifics on
the Marcaba and you said that you work with people
specifically to learn that if that's a meditation you want
to do, and I know that yes, yeah, So if
(09:55):
you want to tell us a little bit more about
your work with people and how you got into that,
I mean, have you always been a guide for people,
you know, a wise teacher or did you start off
in kind of with a day job somewhere and you
know what part of the country were you in? Were
you in the US? And just you know, we'd love
to know this where this wisdom is the wellspring of
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this wisdom.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
So I grew up on a farm, and like I said,
both my parents were plugged in, so they knew things
and they understood this work. When I went off to college,
I continued to pray and meditate and you know, practice
my devotions. And then I got married and had a family.
(10:40):
I have four sons, all grown, and then I was
in the corporate world as my youngest was, you know,
starting school and stuff. And I worked in the corporate
world for I don't know, fifteen or more years and
continued to build my knowing and understanding practices and study groups,
(11:03):
and then I got trained to teach the Macraba, as
I started to explain, and then I told Spirit I
was willing to travel to teach this work. And so
what ended up happening is I was invited all over
the world. I have personally taught the Macraba and other teachings,
(11:24):
the Acasia records and other work all over the world
in twenty four different countries. And I would average, you know,
there's fifty two weekends and a year, and I think
I was on the road forty five to forty six
of them. So I would travel to a different city
every single week. And then at one point I began
(11:47):
teaching in China, and I taught there for three weeks
at a time, and then I'd come home for two
months and then three weeks at a time, like that
and that went on for seven years and so I
lost count. And I also in that cycle of time,
took people to China, I mean took people to Egypt
(12:08):
and Machu Picchu. We did, We went to Tibet, we
went to Peru. And I have a big connection in Egypt.
So I started going to Egypt in two thousand and
two and I've been there so many times that I
quit counting at fifteen. So I have a strong connection
with Egypt. And although I don't have a trip to
(12:31):
Egypt this year at this time, but we're talking about
the possibility of doing another Egypt trip. And I'd also
like to do another Tchibbet trip. So there's lots of
things on the horizon and I just haven't quite you know,
put that together. And then one other thing I want
to talk about, and that is the app. I have
a bone app of guided meditations and it's called Illuminate,
(12:58):
and it is a wonderful collection of over thirty of
the guided meditations that I've written. It's I don't know
if you can see it, but it's got a purple box. No,
it's not coming through color wise anyway, those of you
who are listening. It's a purple box with a gold
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arrow that's got a curl to it.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
It's actually the five ratio.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And then the app is free and there's seven free
guided meditations, and then if you want to subscribe, you
can and get access to the rest of them. And
we're always adding new meditations to it, so it's always
something there for you. And also the protocol to connect
with your higher self is in there, and that's also free,
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and that's extraordinarily powerful. I have used my higher self
to know what to do next. And as a matter
of fact, I'm in the middle of a course that
I'm teaching with another teacher and we were talking about
the higher self connection. And one of the things that
I tell people is that when you learn how to
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connect with your higher self in this very logical, reasonable way,
you can stop being afraid. And you know, I was
born I'm a rabbit by the Chinese astrology, and sometimes
I do, you know, get afraid, and it's part of
my nature, but I always follow my higher self.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
It's a free will choice.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And what I discovered and we were in the record
today and the question was what are my fears? And
I was told, well, you're been accused of being afraid.
But the only thing that you're not doing is when
you feel that way, just check in with your higher
self and you'll know what the next thing to do is.
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So I highly recommend that all of our audience learn
how to connect with your higher self, because then you
can know what teacher to study with, you can know
what body of knowledge to learn, you can know where
their body's got a good podcast this week.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
You know all of these cool things.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And what's amazing is sometimes you'll be told just go
to the internet and scroll and then you'll you'll be
attracted to something. But that's because you've listened to your
higher self. I have so many wonderful stories about the
higher self and following it and the phenomenal outcomes.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I can relate to that very very well.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And I think that there's maybe different terms that people
would use for it. I mean, would you say that
the intuition and higher self are the same thing?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I think maybe?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Okay, good, you want to tell us a little distinction
distinction between the two.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
The reason, yeah, the reason I'm so uh the word a.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Quickler, Yeah that was a quick now, so I was
just like definitely hard hard.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
No, I apologize for interrupting you. Oh please, it's okay. So,
so the reason that you're into and your higher self
are not the same is because your higher self is you.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Your higher self.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Is an aspect of you that's already plugged in to
higher knowledge and higher wisdom. And what you're doing is
you're getting your higher self wisdom and bringing it into
your three D self or maybe your five D self,
and using that knowledge in ways that you wouldn't have
been able to any other way. And it's important to
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understand that because everybody is learning to bring their higher
self in now. The intuition could be your angels or
your guides, or your Grandma that's watching out for you,
and it could also just be you reading your own
aura and your own field around you. But the higher
self is more detailed, more accurate, more current. So I
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asked one time what was the difference between your intuition
and your higher self? And my guide showed me a
time when people watch TV on a network show and
then they would get interrupted for a weather update. You know,
there's going to be hail or there's going to be
a tornado coming or something like that, and they said,
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your higher self information is always situation normal update, so
it's like everything's the same, but then you get an update.
So that's why you want to have your higher self
connection because you could be comfortably, you know, doing something
in your home and the cars parked out in the
driveway and you haven't pulled it into the garage yet,
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and then you.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Get this message, go get.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Your car in the garage now, and you do, and
something wild happens in your driveway or the rain starts
or the hail starts. But it's so incredible because once
you do the six weeks of practice, and that practice
period is very very important, asking unimportant, insignificant questions for
forty five days. What happens after that is that you're
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connection is solid and you can know for sure it's
your higher self. Then when you get an idea, okay,
add more salt to this recipe, you can say, is
this my higher self telling me to do this? And
if you get a yes, then you know for sure,
and pretty soon that higher self voice is distinct and unique.
A lot of people get good higher self information, but
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they think it's their own ego, they think it's their
own personality, and so some people would think that their
intuition is their higher self. But there's a very important
distinction that each of us can make by insisting that
it's only our higher self that's giving us information because
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our higher self cannot lie to us, and our higher self.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Is always right.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That's strong. Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I like that, and I feel like that's a nuance
in my life that I'd really like to improve upon.
I mean, this is very this is inspiring. All the
different different tool again I use the word tools for transformation,
but you have many Moreene.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
This is really beautiful.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yep, I got a whole tool box.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Let's take it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Let's take take it back to the book a little bit.
Please and tell me what's different. You know, what's happening
over time.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I think that I actually had that book waking up
in five d I think that that's on my shelf
at home now.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
That let me see it.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, I had.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
That was a Christmas present from Teresa. Hi, Teresa, Yes,
and I love that. Do you talk about dragons in that?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I do? I do?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Can we talk about dragons? I love dragons. I'm fascinated
with dragons. What did you say about dragons in this book.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
In that book, well, the dragons are back.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
They used to be in this real the interacting with humans,
and they were chased out.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Why because.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Dragons are about clarity, They're about making our path straight
when there's and so what happened is the dragons were
so good at helping people see the truth that when
I'll call it the powers that be, who knows what
that means?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
That the powers that be.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Wanted to change the reality that we understood and they
wanted to control how we saw the experience that we
were in. So the dragons came became extinct because they
were being chased out and they were being slaughtered, and
they went to a higher dimension. Dragons are elemental beings
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that have free will.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
So they're different than.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Your cat or your cow, or your dog or your horse,
and those animals are following their nature and they can
have personalities, they can have souls move in and communicate
with you in lots of ways. But the dragons are
able to interact with you at a higher level. So
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you can call in the dragons when you're stuck in traffic.
You can call in the dragons. If you're writing a
book and you're stuck, you can call on the dragons
to help you find the right publisher, and the dragons
give you clarity. So let's say you're facing a situation
that you really need to know Gosh, does this person
tell me the truth or not? So you could call
upon your dragons and ask them to help you know
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for sure what is the truth of this particular matter.
In addition, you can call in your dragons through meditation.
That's one of the meditations on the app. And you
can learn your dragon's name. If you learn your dragon's name,
you don't share it with anybody because it is the
equivalent of you becoming their human. So then they dedicated
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themselves to you and they're going to help you. And
that also then they'll inspire you to call upon them
when you can you need to. And I have so
many wonderful stories in the book, and the dragons are
just they We've been like to so much about the
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reality we live in, about what's really what we're capable
of that with the dragons around, now that they're back,
we can learn faster, we can remember more, we can
get clarity and trust more.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
That's wonderful to hear that they are back, and definitely
wish to connect with them, and I think there's just
become a greater fascination specifically with dragons. But when I
think about so much of what we're talking about, the
fact that more and more people are understanding this, Maureene,
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don't you find it exciting? I mean, again, you've been
you've been teaching us for a long time. And when
I hear about your worldly travels, bringing this message to
so many, teaching so many, that means that that many
more people are knowing about this, knowing how to do
a meditation with the Merkova, to experience experiences with you know,
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with the dragons, and having an understanding of what a
five D life is. I mean that was very, very esoteric,
probably even as recent as ten years ago. How exciting
is it that we've got that I've got a show
that I can talk about this, that you're again audiences
all over that want to see you and learn. I mean,
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it's got it's incredibly rewarding.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
So one of the things that's new in this book
is I teach an eight D Marcraba, which is built
upon an Ica said, do dicahedron, and we actually ask
you to build one so you buy some dowls and
instructions are very veryise. Each one of the crosses in
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this are in five.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Meaning the ratio of one point six.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
But the relationship between the little finger and the base
of the palm that's your little finger is one, and
then the palm top of the palm to the bottom
is in one point six eight, And every bone in
the body is like this. It's an expansion of this relationship.
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It's also known as the golden mean. So many of
you've heard of the term the golden mean, and the
golden mean is simply this magical ratio that shows up everywhere,
and it's so important and so powerful that I have
taken to calling it source code. Okay, it's even in
our DNA.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, that is that's pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I really I'm hanging on to your every word here.
I'm like, I want to know this. I want to know,
Like it's just it's the kind of thing that if
I had to write an essay about it, it would
be beyond my grasp. But maybe I could get some
multiple choice questions right on this. I mean, it is fascinating,
and we're talking this is science here popularized and remember
(25:14):
the DA Vinci Code. Remember that book they started talking
about that. I got very I think that's a that
probably provided some pretty mainstream understanding, a certainly awareness, maybe
not understanding, but awareness of this.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yes, in the Da Vinci Code they called a particular
relationship aeros gamos, and it had to do with the
relationship between a man and a woman, and that by
creating this balance, and it's not equal, it's unequal, but
it's important because it works in both directions. By creating
this union, it could produce heart opening and mind connection
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to make it easy to access your divine self. Beautiful
and it's funny, but you know, I I have always
had this affinity for numbers in geometry, and I think
I could have taken geometry class in high school and
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passed every test without even I didn't study, I didn't
need to, but there was this quality of just that
it was like mother's milk for me. It was just
super special. And when you begin to realize that everything
in the universe is based on grids and relationships, we
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begin to comprehend that if we know this, and we
know this about ourselves, we can use this knowing to
co create the reality we want and more importantly, we
are in a place a huge transition, because I believe
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we're all Source, but Source as an entity or an
identity of God. Source has concluded that we're done with
this particular game. We're done hurting each other, we're done
fighting wars. And one of the masters that I channel
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said this very succinctly. He said, the game of three
D is over. And then he said the game will
end when there are no more players. So the more
we engage in our three D behavior, you know, it's
not fair. I don't like what she said to me.
You know, this sucks, whatever, those kinds of judgments. The
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more we engage in that, then we get stuck in
this three D world, whereas if we're in five D,
we're gonna look at situations say, you know what, it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Didn't hurt my feelings.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
It's too bad they feel that way, But I'm fine.
And the final thing that he said, Son of Kamara
said was if the game ends when there are no
more players, will you be the first.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
To leave or the last? Right inspiration, I'm.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Out, absolutely, I love what you're saying. It's it's really true.
And I you know, I always ask the question of
my guests. So, how do you think we're doing so
specifically to you?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
You know, are there are the players transitioning at all?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I feel like in so many ways I have I
because I was in the corporate world as well, and
I think about the hours and hours I used to
just be so worried about the politics of the job.
Why did that person, what did that mean in that email?
And you know, things like that, crazy crazy things in
my brain that I worried about these people that I
can't even remember the names of people that we're so
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concerning to me at one time. And really how liberating
it is to just become free of that and just
know that it's not real or it's not me, it's them.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
There's different ways of.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
There's different ways of interpreting it, and I think liberating
oneself from the hamster wheel that is, I don't know,
modern living, the three D world. It's very very base
fear based living.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
You know, I love your word liberating.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
It's so it's so clear that we have a choice.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, we have a choice.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
And when we recognize that we have that choice.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
You know, if you worked in the corporate world, like
you know, there's this big money thing. You know, I've
got a family, I've got college to pay for, you know,
all these things that keep us tied to that hamster
wheel as you described it, and to suddenly say, you
know what, I'm going to take a I'm going to
take a chance. I don't know how it's going to
work out, but I'm going to do it. And for
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those of you who are listening, that's exactly what I did.
But I also said I'm ready to walk away from
this hamster wheel, and that's all I said. I didn't
take any outside action.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
But three weeks later I got fired.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
So it was pretty clear that my statement I'm ready
to step into this full time was my telling the
universe okay, hit me, hit me, yes. And you know
that was a very fearful experience in the moment.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
For a moment, yes, and then you know, you get
over it.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
And so I think the biggest thing about fear is
that it does hold us back. And when we start
to look at fear and we ask ourselves, well, wait
a minute, what is fear for? And fear is to
keep us from making the same mistake twice. And if
we recognize that, we don't have to look at everybody
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else's mistakes and say I might make that one. Instead,
we can say, okay, I choose. I choose to follow
my guidance. I choose to follow my higher self. My
high self is telling me I need to quit this job,
but I'm afraid to. So I'll just sign up and say, Okay,
I'm ready and see what happens. You know, so let
the universe take care of you. And interestingly enough, when
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when I first left the corporate world, I chose to
always tell the truth. So those of you who've ever
collected unemployment, when you get let go, you know you
have to act. You have to report if you even
if you have an amway business or anything. And I
was already teaching at this level, so I reported my
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work that I was doing that was part time, but
I also reported my previous hours, and I was working
so many hours as a lobbyist that were documented legally
that the guy who evaluated me looked at this and said,
I'm not even going to count your part time job
because you're already working so many hours in the other job.
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I know you couldn't be putting that much time into it.
So they didn't even count the income that I had
been getting. So I got full unemployment and suddenly my
workshops filled. I was okay, I completely replaced my corporate money.
And when I took that leap, I wasn't sure that
was going to work out.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, so yeah, I love that. I love that, And
it's just it's in alignments. I think it's just when
you start living your truth. I mean that's really the program.
Is truth be told to me?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That is the truth is when you start to really
have the courage to live in a place of doing
what you love. And I mean I understand I'm a
practical person. You know, I got to pay the rent
and things like that. But I think living through living
by spirit, which is another another term. I would say,
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you've got a more sophisticated way of describing it by
living in the fifth dimension, by living in five D.
So I'd like to hear a little bit more what's
in the new book, please, because I want my best
life for sure.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
So I also talk about how to access higher dimensions
through your connection with your higher self.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
On the app, there's.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
A meditation called the Golden Bull, and we talk about
how you can activate this energy sphere around the body.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
And this.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Consists of the sinus cavities that are here below your cheeks,
below your eyes, rather in your cheeks, and then on
the side of your head, and also in the back
of the head. And science doesn't even know what all
these sionis cavities are doing. And I came across I
had been given this information, but I wasn't clear in
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my own mind on how to use it. And then
I came across a quote that referred to the golden
bowl and then the silver cord, and it said before
the golden bowl is broken and the silver cord breaks.
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So in the process of meditating on that, I began
to understand that this line around the head, that's kind
of where you're if you were a Native American Indian,
and if you had a headband around your head, it
would be right there, it would be right about your eyebrows,
and then across the back. I call it the satellite
dish to call home. And what it does is opens
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you up to become a to improve your reception to
your source, to your own wisdom channel. So it's another
way to become connected. One of the things that I
do describe is what happens when you die, and that's
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in chapter three, and I describe that, excuse me, chapter five.
What I describe is how you have choice when you
pass that you're going to have a life review. Lots
of people know about that. But then you're going to
be greeted by family, but it's usually not your real family.
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It's a hologram. It's a trap to get you to
go with them. And if you say no, I'm going
to say and wait to go with God. I'm interested
in going with God. You go through a tunnel, a
dark tunnel that makes you scared or afraid because it's
literally like the portal you see on some of the
Star Trekker Star Star Wars movies where they walk through
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a tunnel to get to another location, right, and so.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
It's like that.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It's darkness, and then you connect back with source and
it doesn't mean you're going to lose your identity. But
you don't have to reincarnate. You do not have to
come back to Earth if you don't want to. You know,
many people who are here as light bearers, as way showers,
as helpers are an overwhelm because the darkness has been
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so big here. There's two things I want to say
about that. The first one is, if you're so overwhelmed
that you want to exit, you're probably not doing your
job and you need to find a way to step
into that responsibility. Even if you start a study group
at a local bookstore, even if you just take a
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class to learn more, when you need to move forward
in your unresolved energy about this is not a good
place to be. And then the second thing is the
rest of us, all of us really that are connected
to this kind of information, are here to help. We're
here to help each other. We're here to help whoever
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wants our help. And it doesn't mean we're supposed to
proselytize or go door to door anything like that. It
means we learn these tools for ourselves, we practice them,
and then when someone comes to us and say how
come you're always happy, you can say, well, you know,
I meditate, Well, how come things always turn out right
for you?
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Well?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I do manifestation work and I hope old space for
the highest and best outcome. We had a funny incident yesterday.
I was flying home from an event and I had
gotten bumped up to first class, which was very nice,
and the woman in the seat behind me. When we
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were told that the plane needed something to fix and
we all had to disembark, she said, oh, one more
thing that always you know, and she starts going into
this little rand about how, you know, bad things always
happen when she travels. So I turned around with a
smile and I said, don't say that, you're going to
jinx us all. And then another lady chimed in and said, yeah,
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you know, think positive thoughts. And it was a very friendly,
sweet exchange, and the woman who was speaking, you know,
laughed and said, yeah, I shouldn't be saying these things.
And then when we were finally home and our destination city,
I turned to her and I said, now tell me
when you're traveling next is I'm not flying with you again?
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And of course she cracked up, and it was mant
as a tease, but it will also help her remember,
choose what you want, don't ruminate about what you don't want.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
That is such a beautiful story, and I like, I
like that you you spoke with her with lightness, But
how beautiful that a fellow passenger was also sort of
chucking agacouraging, worrying the people are out there that we're
talking to each other. There's so much of this. I think,
you know, people understanding taking the higher path, and I
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just I have you. I guess talking to you and
hearing a story like that and knowing the beautiful work
that you're doing and that it's getting through to just
two thousands of people doing what you do, it just
gives me incredible encouragement that we are up leveling. And
I don't know, maybe I'm starting to understand that heaven
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on Earth term a little bit better after this conversation.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Well, I'd like to go into that what you asked
me earlier, you know, about how are we doing? And
the heaven on Earth thing is really really important because
I was told to ask for a day of heaven
on Earth for me and for everyone I'm in contact
with and everyone I am in contract with. And it
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all started with this crazy another airline story. I was
getting off the plane and the airline employee greeted me,
and it was one of those crazy cycles where I
was getting off the plane, going home, changing out my
suitcase and coming back to the airport a couple hours
later and getting on a flight going to the East
coast from the West coast. So she greets me, and
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without even thinking, I said something like, oh, that's my
day from and I'm not going to say the word
because I don't want to answer that back at my consciousness.
And she looked me kind of funny, and I realized
what came out of my mouth, and I was so embarrassed.
I said, well, I'm having a day of heaven on earth,
and that's because I'm flying with United. So I come
home home and there's two inches of water on the
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basement floor. There's a pipe that has sprung a leak
in the middle of the walls, and we have to
find it, and I use my higher self to find
out where to cut into the walls.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Which worked out perfectly.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
The plumber came when he said he would. He only
charged me one hundred dollars. My neighbor came and helped
me with putting fans in the wall. Everything worked out perfectly.
So now I'm on including the airline saying we'll let
you change to the later flight. And then I get
a call on my way home from the bank. I've
made a deposit. That's how long ago this was. Nowadays,
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you know, which just count the money. We don't have
to make a trip to the bank anyway. I walk
in the door and my phone is ringing, my landline phone,
and I pick it up and it's United Airlines saying
the flight that you were going to take is running
an hour late, and so also is the one after that.
So if you take this flight that you're booked on,
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because I was now booked on the second one, you
are going to miss your connections to the East Coast.
Is there any way you can get on the earlier flight,
which is now leaving one hour later than the original schedule.
And as I was driving home, I was getting the message,
you know, you only needed one more hour and you
would have been able to make that flight. So of
course I said, yes, my suitcase is in the car.
I'm now sitting on the airplane on the earlier flight,
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which is, you know, like an hour later, and I'm
sitting there just contemplating, Oh my goodness, all these things
just went.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Boom boom boom boom boom. How did all that happen?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
And my guides came in and said, you asked for
a day of heaven on Earth, and I thought, oh
my goodness, I'm going to do that.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
The next time I have a chocolate block day.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Well, the third time I had a day that was
really full, it occurred to me I could ask for
it every day, and so can you.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Okay, I will thank you.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
So I mean I like that Earth.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I was like right here, right anchored in.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
I appreciate that permission because I think that maybe there's
sort of a modesty or oh it's good.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Enough, but right are your shelfy basement.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yes you're letting us know, no, just to shine on,
to be your side.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
I'm asking for a day of having on earth for
me and everyone I come in contact with, and everyone
i'm in contract with. Now, the contact with that's you
and I talking, that's you know, the person I buy
my lunch from. But the contract one. That's cool because
that means maybe I don't talk to my webmaster, maybe
(43:40):
I don't talk to the person who services my car,
but I'm making the call for them. They're going to
have a great day as well. Good And it's so amazing,
so so amazing, because everyone around you gets leveled up
right with you, like you're the tide and you've raised
all the boats in the harbor.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I like that analogy very very much. Worry, there's so
much to unpack here.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I really appreciate your time. I know you're in Sidona,
is that correct?
Speaker 4 (44:10):
Yeah, that's home base. I'm so happy.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Amongst all your travels.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Well, I really yesterday, but I'm in Sidona today.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
You know, I appreciate you taking your time because you're
doing so much and I know that. I first I
tried to connect with you around the Conscious Life Expo.
Will you be doing that in twenty twenty five, Yes.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
I will. I will be there so we can connect there.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Oh my gosh, that would be if I don't see
you in Sidona before now. This has been amazing. Best
wishes for your book, Living Your Best five Day Life.
You've given us some great feel, a real true feeling of.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
What that can be like.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
And I feel like you are just such a beautiful
example of that.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
It's a true pleasure speaking with you.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Thank you, Thank you again, Thank you for having me,
and thank you to all of you who are listening.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Until the next time, everybody, I'm Bonnie Berker for Truth
be Told, Transformation, don't forget to listen to Tony Sweet
Fridays at three PM Live, that people gather to talk
to him in the chat room and ask him very
hard questions, give him a hard time, no, no, nothing,
give him lots of love. That's what we're doing for
Tony Sweet. We do hope that you'll like and love
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and share what we're doing here at the Truth Be
Told Club Paranormal. Until the next time, we look forward
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