August 7, 2025 • 51 mins
This Week Unfiltered 08.07.25
Today Amy is joined by special guest cohost, Mallory Hagan as they take an UNFILTERED look at how pandering to Trump now requires gerrymandering. Then, it turns out that “Vladimir, STOP!!” wasn’t great foreign policy – so we’re back to nuclear saber rattling with Russia. Plus, the House Oversight committee subpoenas the Clintons (because of course), the “father of IVF” turns out to be just another deadbeat dad, Nebraskans put the pressure on Mike Flood, the head of Bureau of Labor Statistics is fired for doing a good job, and Trump destroys satellites for climate change.
Chapters :
01.52 The Truth About Gerrymandering
16:50 A Nuclear Distraction
24:32 Comer’s Pile
30:04 Whiskey Minute/Quick Shots
*This episode was recorded and aired on August 7th 2025
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Today, we're taking an unfiltered look at how pandering to Trump now requiresgerrymandering.
Should we be worried about this back and forth nuclear saber rattling with Russia rightnow?
Plus, the House Oversight Committee subpoenas the Clintons because, of course they did.
The father of IVF continues to be just another deadbeat dad.
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Nebraskans put the pressure on one of their GOP reps kind enough to actually do a townhall last week.
The head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics has fired for doing her job.
And now our government is destroying satellites because right-wing whack jobs don't wantto think about climate change.
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This is truth in the barrel, a different kind of whiskey rebellion.
Welcome to Truth in the Barrel.
Denver is off this week, so we are happy to have our returning guest co-host, MalloryHagen.
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Hey, how are you?
Glad to be here.
I'm good, I'm good, things are well and we have a lot to talk about.
We do, the headlines you just went through.
You know, just another day in America.
You're scratching the surface here.
But while you all are subscribing to Mallory's show, Mallory, what's your show again?
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Yeah, I've got a podcast out with Maggie Gelson Burnett called Pretty Furious.
talk everything from pop culture to politics and occasionally a couple of beauty productsfrom here and there as well.
And you can find us over on Substack at Pretty Furious or on any of our social mediachannels as well.
Awesome.
So you also need to subscribe to this show, Truth in the Barrel, right?
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And rate and review us.
Feedback is always appreciated on all of your podcast platforms.
All right.
So let's talk gerrymandering, because there's a lot going on in our country right now,especially in Texas.
And I'm hearing a lot about both sides are to blame here.
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uh Before we start though, gerrymandering, the term itself, just so you all know, uh wasnamed after the Vice President of the United States in the early 1800s.
His name was Elbridge Gerry and he just happened to sign the bill that resulted in the lawthat allowed gerrymandering.
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Sorry for him, his name will always be part of this uh bad thing that we think about.
But what is gerrymandering anyway?
Yeah, so every 10 years, you know, the census is taken.
They redraw the districts based on population movements around the state or around thecountry.
So the Constitution states that the state legislature has to draw the districts and everystate does it differently.
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We could debate whether or not that's fair.
um Some states do have independent commissions, which I think many people would say is thebest best method to move forward in a way that's objective.
But, you know, who decides?
it really matters, you know, Ohio can have a 55 to 44 split and also have 10 out of 15 reddistricts.
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So I think it's something that people should really be paying attention to, especiallywhen their state legislatures are working on redistricting and Lord knows I'm no stranger
to it here in Alabama.
Yeah, and this is why the down ballot races of House seats, State House seats, and StateSenate seats are so important because they have national implications, especially what's
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happening in Texas right now.
So Donald Trump, once he's going into the midterms and they're seeing that the Republicansare likely to lose the House because uh the American public is sort of fed up with what
the Republicans are doing right now.
And Donald Trump says, well, I want more red house seats.
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I'm, quote, entitled to them.
I mean, that's what he said.
So he told Texas and the governor of Texas, who is happy to kiss Trump's ass, toredistrict Texas.
So the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, is bringing the legislature uh in Texas back intosession in the middle of a decade.
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Okay.
And that's what's so different about
doing this now, it's not a matter of the legislature gerrymandering, that does happen.
It happens, as you said, after the census, which is every 10 years.
So it's sort of, this is way outside the normal process, it's unprecedented.
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And that's why all the uproar right now.
Well, I think the thing is, like, you know, it turns out as you've done many episodes onthat programs that are necessary for everyday Americans to survive like Medicaid and snap,
cutting them is not hugely popular, even in a quote unquote red state.
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And when you consider, you know, the issues with FEMA post national disaster, post naturaldisaster and, you know, the the budget cuts to education,
The climate change issues, mean, what's happening with Republicans right now is just notpopular.
And they know that, you know, he's looking to add five seats because he knows that hecan't win any other way.
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And as has been stated by the many Democrats who are standing up against this around thecountry, it's the Republican playbook.
If you can't win on policy, you just change the rules.
You just change the rules over and over again.
And um that's why.
your voters!
Yeah, you pick your voters and it's been stated that these maps that they're proposing forTexas are incredibly racist.
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And I think when you consider the history of this country, that's no surprise.
But it is an important element of it, that it's not just taking away the voting power ofAmericans, it's silencing marginalized voices already.
And that's an even bigger issue.
Yeah, and there's a time to redistrict.
It's not now.
It's not in the middle of the 10-year uh plan that the Constitution lays out.
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And by the way, uh know, Democrats are standing up to this, criticizing this all aroundthe country, but Texas Democrats in the House and in the Texas Senate, um they have
actually not just talked about standing up to it, they left the state.
They left the state.
This is very controversial.
uh Because if you don't have a quorum, if you don't go into the session and you don't haveenough people, you can't call the legislature into session and then can't vote on the
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redistricting madness that the governor and Trump want done.
So the governor has like called for their arrest.
They're being welcomed by other states like Massachusetts, Illinois.
uh
And, you know, the question that I have is, well, a couple of questions.
One, where will this go?
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Okay.
Where does it end?
And then two, I really want to talk about the both sidesism because I'm hearing that youhear this constantly from Republicans.
Well, Democrats, they Derrymander.
So this is no different.
We're just taking it from the Democrats playbook.
So before we get into that, where do you think this will all go?
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Well, first of all, I just want to say that, you know, the governor calling for the arrestof state legislature, like the state legislature in general or legislators is, is
absolutely out of anything I could have ever pictured.
And I know that we say that on a daily basis, but when you really think about that, thegovernor is proposing that legislators come in to do something that they'll be forced to
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do because they're not in the majority.
And instead of them coming, they're standing up for the people that they represent andhe's calling for them to be arrested.
um But those warrants only apply within state lines.
So as long as they're not in the state of Texas, it's really for not.
I think that it's worth noting.
I I know we keep throwing around words like authoritarian and fascist, but I mean, this isthat.
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It's crazy.
And the other side has done this too.
mean, leaving the state in order to protest and basically say, we're not even going tocome to a vote because it is so egregious what you are trying to do is so outside the norm
of the legislative process and so blatantly partisan and wrong that, you know, there havebeen both sides been able to do this in the past.
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also just think it's really important at a time when so many of us who are not MAGA, evenconservative people who used to consider themselves Republican, are calling on the
Democrats to use the power that they do have to stand up against everything that'shappening.
um And I know we'll cheers at them a little bit, but I just, really want to commend themfor using the power of the media and protest to really bring this to light because so much
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is happening and so much is getting lost.
in our media cycle about what's going on.
And so I think them taking this opportunity to really make sure that every American knowswhat Donald Trump and Greg Abbott are up to is it was the right moment to take this
measure.
Because it is wrong.
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And while it is true in the past, both sides gerrymander.
That does happen.
um Right, and that is where the difference is.
So right now you're hearing folks say, Democrats do this all the time.
Look at my districts in Maryland.
It's the most gerrymandered district in the country, blah, blah, blah.
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The fact is that Republicans
benefit way more from gerrymandering around the country, certainly in recent years.
So there's a lot of facts behind this, OK?
So I'm going to throw out a couple of them.
uh Half the states in our country, the drawing process isn't fully controlled by one partyor another.
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Maybe the state has a split legislative control.
Maybe it's the courts.
Maybe they have independent redistricting commissions.
But Republicans get more opportunities to gerrymander because they typically have uh morefull control of the states that allow the legislatures to gerrymander.
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So it's Republicans that have full control over lots of those states.
They have what's called a trifecta.
They have the governor's mansion.
They have both chambers in the state legislature.
So they are able to redistrict in a much more partisan way when they have that control.
So 2020 was brutal for Democrats.
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Republicans controlled the drawing of 177 districts.
Democrats controlled the drawing of only 49.
And it is a fact that blue states are more likely to allow independent commissions.
So this is why, you know, like a lot of people criticize Democrats because a lot ofDemocrats are like, try to play fair.
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They like try to like, hey, let's have an independent.
Whereas the red states are like coming into, know, coming in with a hammer and basicallysaying, gonna gerrymander the shit out of their states.
Yeah, the Brennan Center found that out of 11, or there were 11 Republican drawn maps thathad extreme partisan bias.
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And that was compared to four by Democrats.
I mean, sure, both sides, but.
More maps clearly have a bias toward Republicans than Democrats across the country.
And that is a fact.
And so what you're seeing right now with Texas taking this unprecedented step in themiddle of the decade, again, you're supposed to do this after the census, which is after
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every 10 years, which is at the end of the decade.
uh
So now you're seeing blue states like New York and California, their governor saying,know, I'm tired of this.
I'm tired of playing fair.
If Texas is gonna do this, we're gonna redistrict our states.
So we're all sort of like in a race to the bottom right now.
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Yeah, and I guess we could debate the morals and ethics of that as well, right?
If somebody is doing the wrong thing, if we're meeting them there, then we're all doingthe wrong thing.
But I think what we've seen over the last decade is at some point we've got to meet themwhere they are because they're a couple of steps ahead, it seems, at all times.
know, Kathy Hochul came out uh governor of New York this week and said, this is a war.
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This isn't even a battle anymore.
This isn't one little blip.
in the long game, she was like, we've, we've got to, if they're going to, if they're notgoing to play by the rules, then neither are we.
Yeah.
And, um, you know, I think that same thing in California, Gavin Newsom has come out andsaid, we will use the full force of everything we've got in California.
And California is the fourth largest economy.
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It's the most populous state in the union.
You know, they're, they're California is the same size as 21 state populations combined.
So
He has been working with their state legislature to put in a trigger.
So if Texas passes, then it will trigger California to redistrict.
They will allow Californians to actually vote on the redistricting, which novel concept.
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But em yeah, think places like New York and California, not only from an economicperspective, but just from a population perspective are saying, don't play a game that you
you might not be able to win when it comes to the Humberts.
And I'm glad for that.
Like, I feel like we're at a point where we have to bring in the big guns.
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I mean, we have to, we have to.
Because we can't allow these Republicans to continue to do this over and over again.
I mean, I would like there to be no gerrymandering.
Of course.
think most Democrats would agree with me.
think probably most Americans would agree with me.
But put a bill that bans partisan gerrymandering
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across the country on the floor right now, Democrats will vote for it.
I think Democrats will vote for it.
Republicans won't because they know that um if gerrymandering goes away in the nationalsense, that the national maps become fair and they will lose the majority.
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They have to because then they have to compete on policy.
Yeah.
They can't just draw their voters out.
You know, I do want to say before we wrap up on gerrymandering, there are many Texaslawmakers right now, particularly Democrats, who typically are not thrust into the
national spotlight.
There are a couple that we see here and there, but I want to really commend the Democraticlawmakers from the state of Texas who have found, I shouldn't say found themselves.
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This is obviously a conscious decision that they made, but I think that they've handledthe press really well.
They've gotten some really good sound bites out there.
The messaging has been, you know,
on par and they've worked together and it's very clear that they thought this through andit was it was really like um You know, it was purposeful Yeah, and I think that we should
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we should kudos them for that because it's hard as hard as you know It's hard to go fromlike kind of being in your state bubble to suddenly your face is on everything in the
national news
Well, you know what?
Cheers to them a little bit early too.
But here's the thing.
These folks, um that's good.
We'll talk about that later on.
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ah But these folks are standing up not only for Texas, they're standing up for ourcountry.
And so, yeah, I totally agree with you.
Anyone who says though that they're abdicating their duties, I would just have them turnthat energy to their lawmakers, their Republican congressmen and say, then get your ass
back to DC and vote to release the vaccine files.
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Amen to that.
All right.
As if the month of August wasn't already hot enough, Trump has decided now would be a goodtime once again to raise the specter of nuclear war with Russia.
Yeah.
And the other thing about this, we'll get into this in a second, but I feel like theRepublicans in general and Donald Trump for sure always want to change the subject from
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Epstein.
I really don't.
I really don't want them to ratchet up nuclear saber rattling as one of those things.
There's lots of ways to distract.
You could go after Rosie O'Donnell or you can, was it Beyonce one week?
Okay, I don't wanna say all that's fine, but the nuclear saber rattling, maybe let's notdo that.
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Maybe let's...
Okay, tell us what happened.
So a couple of weeks ago, this guy named Dmitry Medvedev, who used to be the Russianpresident before he was sort of ousted by Putin, um he is now the deputy chairman of the
Security Council of the Russian Federation, but he makes a lot of threats all the time.
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we should kind of like sort of not listen to him.
It's not shocking that he makes these threats.
uh Donald Trump decided to respond.
over the weekend by saying he's moving our nuclear submarines near Russia.
um Which Fox News called clever, you know, how Fox News gushes over everything that DonaldTrump does, especially on a national security front.
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It's not very clever to have Trump tweeting out that he's moving nuclear submarines nearRussia.
Also, just pause.
Trump's not doing anything, right?
Like our nuclear program is highly, highly classified on purpose.
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Yeah, well, it's okay.
So tweeting out that you're moving nuclear submarines as a threat is kind of dumb.
Okay, first of all, all submarines that we have are nuclear, they're nuclear powered.
So to say that you're moving nuclear submarines, like in all caps, well, no shit, all ofthem are nuclear powered, okay?
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We have some of them that have nuclear weapon capable ballistic missiles um on them.
Maybe that's what he meant.
Nobody knows because I don't think Donald Trump knows.
was gonna say, I didn't even know what he meant.
The man was wandering around a rooftop this week.
Nobody knows where our submarines are at by design.
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And those submarines that can launch ICBMs or intercontinental ballistic missiles, nucleartip missiles, they can do that from pretty much anywhere in the world and hit Russia.
So moving a sub closer to Russia doesn't really mean anything operationally.
And you would never want to tell anyone where you're at ever.
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So Trump's words are just dumb.
for anybody that knows this stuff.
Well, it seems to be a prerequisite, right?
We've got Hexeth and the Signal Chat.
mean, we're just telling everybody what we're doing.
Yeah, so Trump did this and I didn't do anything.
I didn't say anything about it, you know, because oh I was like, okay, that's dumb.
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I know about that.
like, so, so what is it really?
It's just saber rattling.
So when what is Russia going to do now?
Russia comes back and says, well, we're not going to abide by the the INF Treaty.
Well, folks, the INF Treaty is called the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.
Basically, it's been dead for many years already.
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So um it's it's kind of
stupid to even say you're not abiding by it.
Russia hasn't been abiding by it for decades.
um So it's kind of a nothing burger at this point.
The INF Treaty, by the way, was something we instituted back in the Cold War.
It was a good thing in my mind back in the Cold War because it got rid of an entire classof a certain type of nuclear missile that covered a certain range.
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we wanted to get rid of missiles in Europe.
um to at least reduce the numbers.
So we came up with this treaty with the Soviet Union at the time to get rid of that classof nuclear uh missiles that could be launched into Europe, that sort of about 300 miles or
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so to a couple thousand miles.
We still had the intercontinental missiles, so we never got rid of the big long ones, butwe got rid of the sort of intermediate ones, and that was good.
The problem, Mallory, was that Vladimir Putin violated that treaty a couple of decadesago.
And so the Trump administration, the first one, pulled out, pulled the United States outof the treaty.
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So we've been out of it for a while.
So now Russia's saying that they're pulling out of it.
I mean, I just don't think this is a big deal.
So it's a nothing burger, but you think it's more of a distraction.
It's a tactic to try and divert.
Well, I think, first of all, I think that Donald Trump and perhaps many in his team don'tunderstand ah nuclear weapons.
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ah And so my concern, I don't think it's a big deal that Russia is pulling out of thistreaty.
I do think it is a big deal about the saber rattling.
I think it's a bad idea to be tweeting out shit about nuclear weapons, just in general.
My bomb's bigger than your bomb.
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That's not good.
We are 80 years, Mallory, from the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
That actually happened this week, 80 years ago.
um That is a big deal, okay?
We should never ever be using nuclear weapons.
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And to sort of flippantly talk about these things,
I think is a real problem.
And I also think the bigger issue is that the only major arms control agreement, nucleararms control agreement that we have left in place with Moscow is the New START Treaty.
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And that treaty expires next year.
I do not believe the Trump team has the competence.
within the State Department, within their political appointees, that anybody that can workon this.
And that, believe, is a much bigger concern.
Yeah, and you've been sounding the alarm for a long time now about how a Donald Trumppresidency is truly dangerous for international diplomacy, for our national security, and
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this is just yet another example, right?
He's unfit to be the commander in chief.
He's unfit to lead our troops, and tweeting about nuclear bombs or being...
no reason.
For no reason.
It's just yet another example of...
how unserious this man is.
mean, you don't respond to Medvedev.
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He's not Putin.
uh
They all know Trump's playbook.
They all know that all they have to do is just, is just dangles.
Yeah.
Poke, poke the bear a little bit and he'll do exactly what they want him to.
Yeah.
So anyway, we go from saber rattling to subpoena waving as the house moves sort of on theEpstein case, right?
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What's going on?
What's going on?
They're at home in their districts.
oh What's our good friend Jamie Comer doing?
my gosh, well, of course they did, right?
Of course they issued subpoenas right now.
So he's always got to pull some shit out of his hat to get a headline.
There are eight former attorneys general and FBI directors that have been subpoenaed umbecause Trump refuses to release the info.
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We can go over this again and again and again, but if you're not guilty, just release thefiles and let us know.
There's definitely not a dead body in my backyard guys.
Don't look there.
But if you do and there is a dead body.
He's the thing, Jamie Comer is the master of like trying to build a headline.
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Like, don't look here, look at the Clintons.
Look at the Clintons, you know?
it's like they predated the Epstein investigation.
like, there's no there there.
I mean, yeah, there's.
know what?
We can say it again.
And if there is something there, also hold them accountable.
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Hold everyone accountable.
That's the piece that I just don't think, I don't think Republicans are grasping.
You know, in the comment section of my videos on TikTok and Instagram, people are like,what about Biden and what about Clinton?
And I'm like, what about him?
Arrest him too.
What do you mean?
If you're a child predator, if you've done something that's this egregious and wrong, thenyou're not going to catch me being like, don't don't arrest Joe Biden.
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What?
Of course.
I think it's the same.
Kind of ludicrous.
they're subpoenaing all these attorney generals and stuff.
Interestingly, they're not subpoenaing the former US attorney.
His name was, and former Secretary of Labor under Trump won, Alex Acosta.
They're not subpoenaing him.
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Now he was the guy who was, as US attorney in 2008, who gave the sweetheart deal to...
Jeffrey Epstein, who made this plea deal that gave Epstein immunity, right, from federalprosecution.
They did not subpoena him to ask him why or what that deal was all about, but they didsubpoena all these other people.
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It just makes sense.
And by the way, the president's stuff, oh, subpoena Obama and Clinton and over the last200 years, only four other presidents have received subpoenas for.
from congressional committees, right?
Only two of them have ever provided testimony.
um The House couldn't even subpoena Trump for January 6th.
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So I don't think there's any presidents are gonna come standing in front, sitting in frontof Jamie Comer and testify here.
Plus, know, John Roberts gave all the presidents immunity for anything they did in office,so.
Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall of some of these folks?
Like I could just see, you know, someone handing Barack Obama a subpoena and him going, mygosh, for f*** sake.
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Or something.
But you know, there's a couple of people that had some really good points that I waslistening to this week about the subpoenaing of the former presidents, because you're not
just going after the former presidents, you're also going after their staff.
And, you know, there could be repercussions for that.
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You know, these people get their names get back in the news.
We have some violent, crazy people out there.
just, know, this Epstein stuff.
It's just a big tumbleweed of crap.
And it comes down to this, and you said it perfectly.
We're to the point where just release the information to the public.
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Stop this underground, we're gonna have hearings on the House Oversight Committee, butwe're not gonna open it to the public and we're gonna subpoena all these people.
Bullshit, nobody trusts you.
You know, we were talking about distractions and diversions.
And this entire time we've thought that all these other things were a distraction fromEpstein.
But now I'm starting to wonder, is Epstein a distraction from something much worse?
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Because, I mean, like I said, if you're not guilty, it's two plus two equals four.
If you're not guilty, release the information, say, I didn't have anything to do with it.
I haven't spoken to that man since, you know, 15 years or whatever it is that he said, andlet it go.
And instead we're just, we're winding it up to make it even worse.
And that makes me, now I'm starting to wonder.
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Every week we're gonna be talking about something different, you know?
And also they moved right after uh they sent their lawyer down, uh Trump sent his lawyerdown to talk with Maxwell.
She's now in a uh nicer prison.
and saying that she never witnessed him in any wrongdoing.
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Mm.
Everything's right in front of us, guys.
Anyway.
Okay.
It is time for me, I should say, to get a drink because...
Please.
Please There's so much going on.
But I want to tell everybody what I'm drinking today because this is really cool.
uh So you may or may not know that just in the last week, there was a uh plan that wasreleased for three...
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European countries, our NATO allies, our new NATO allies, um one of them being Sweden.
Thank you, Joe Biden.
uh Sweden, Denmark, and Norway are going to buy $500 million worth of weapons they'regoing to buy from the United States, weapons and ammunition from the United States.
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So we're producing the ammunition.
And give it to Ukraine.
is awesome.
Now I wish we could in the United States could do that ourselves.
I mean, we should be doing more for Ukraine.
But thank you to Sweden, Denmark and Norway for stepping up.
And so because of that, I'm drinking what's called Stoning Rye Whiskey.
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It's from Denmark and um it's really good.
It's created from rye grains from the west coast of Denmark.
It's got kind of a peppery
smell to it and when you taste it.
It's a little bit of like dark chocolate and espresso, and you can really taste the darkchocolate in there.
(31:30):
It's a bit, know, wine enthusiasts, I was reading up on it uh before I got it, wineenthusiasts called it a bit like a s'mores made on slices of rye bread.
So it's actually quite good, and it's uh kind of rare.
So the way that it's made, it's made what's,
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and Denver would be able to explain it a little bit better, but it's made by using floormalting, which is a rare traditional method of malting grains um close to the floor.
So I don't know what that does for you, but it sure tastes good.
And it's from Denmark, and I'm really excited because I thank them for what they're doingfor Ukraine.
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Yeah, absolutely.
I don't have any thoughts on the drink itself.
As people may remember, I am pregnant, but my best friend lives in Copenhagen and I loveDenmark.
So that feels serendipitous.
Cheers.
awesome.
You'll have to ask her if she or he knows about this.
It's called Staunton, Stauning, sorry, Stauning Rye Whiskey.
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Yeah, and this is part of this package that my husband got me for Christmas.
It's like a whiskey of the world tasting where you get like 30 different whiskies.
And so that was, it's kind of cool.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay.
Savoring the taste is over.
So it's time to line up some quick shots, okay?
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The first one we got is tensions erupt uh at Republican representative Mike Flood'sNebraska town hall.
This guy, and maybe Doug can put in a clip of it.
Why does it seem like when you make your voting decisions, they're based on capital ratherthan the working class?
billionaires and corporations Got their tax issues enshrined in the law forever But theworking class gives a no tax on gifts or overtime that only applies to some of us and now
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we wind up in a situation where we are
god!
respect,
uh The Republican Party, now more than ever, represents the heart and soul of the workingclass.
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This guy goes back to his district, which kudos actually for him for having a town hall.
Yeah, because most Republicans won't do it.
We've got a ton of them in Kentucky that won't town halls.
So this Republican rep was asked about cuts to Medicaid and his response was, we don'thave unlimited money.
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Yeah.
Can I read you the quote of this woman that's going viral of what she asked?
She said, 450 million FEMA dollars being reallocated to open Alligator Alcatraz and 600million taxpayer FEMA dollars being used to open more concentration camps and ICE burning
through 8.4 million dollars a day, which by the way, now they are forgiving people studentloans for joining the ICE task force.
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anyway, all of that to illegally detain people.
She said, how much does it cost?
for fascism, how much do the taxpayers have to pay for a fascist country?
And the clips of that are kind of insane.
Yeah.
Well, and the thing is, you know, to say we don't have unlimited money, okay.
It's not that it's like what you choose to spend.
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What you do have or what you could have, you chose to um give all these billionaires taxbreaks.
You chose to give the billionaires more money.
m You chose to give them more money and you chose to take away
from everyday Americans on their healthcare.
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That's what this is about.
at least, again, kudos to the Republican representative for at least showing up and kindof trying to explain it because we've got reps here in Kentucky.
Andy Barr, he's the representative in the sixth congressional district in Kentucky.
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He just blot out lies.
He just flat out says to constituents, the bill doesn't cut Medicaid.
oh
Well, isn't that kind of what's happening here too?
He's saying it strengthens Medicaid.
I mean, guess that depends on your definition of strengthening Medicaid.
Maybe to them that's spending less money on people who they don't.
He said it strengthens Medicaid.
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we strengthen Medicaid by cutting it.
Oh, guess.
Yeah, I'll give it to him for for showing up.
But as I said, that's the bare minimum.
My only hope is that hearing every single person in that room that's your constituentssay, you know, vote him out in front of his face.
I would hope that that would move the needle as we were talking about to some of theseRepublicans standing up for their constituents, the people who elected them.
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um It's just crazy.
You know, Alabama is looking at closing.
I think we have five hospitals right now that are
literally on the brink with 20 more following because of these budget cuts.
And I know that that's happening state by state.
So I hope more of these lawmakers spend August talking to people face to face and gettingin the business about what they've
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Mallory, it didn't take me long to like just Google your state and a Republicanrepresentative in your state with regards to this bill and how it affects Medicaid.
they're all pretty, many of them are all pretty much lying.
I mean, there's one, it didn't take me long to find Gary Palmer in Alabama.
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That's one of your reps there in Alabama who said Medicaid cuts will not cause people tolose their health insurance.
Are you kidding me?
Like, they just why?
177,000 people here who lose their health insurance.
So it's crazy.
All right.
Remember this Mallory when uh Donald Trump claimed that he would be the fertilizationpresident and the father of IVF.
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Remember that?
I'm a woman in America, of course I do.
Remember the campaign promise where, and this was backed up by a lot of Republican women,okay, who championed Donald Trump saying this, that when he got into office, he would make
sure that the government would either pay for IVF services or the government would issuerules requiring insurance companies to cover treatment for it.
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So here we are.
We now find out that there's no plan.
to mandate coverage.
supposed to be released in May.
Yet another lie.
Yeah, you're kicking moms off of Medicaid.
uh You're leaving kids with less food.
You know, but no plan for IVF.
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Well, mean, consistently they talk about the fact that they want more women to have morebabies and everything that they do says the exact opposite of that.
Yeah, it's.
I wanted to get your take on something because you're in Alabama.
uh Senator Katie Britt from Alabama, she is championing this law that increased the childtax credit from 2000 to 2200, as if like that super substantial.
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That's looking great, but like seriously when tariffs are driving the cost of everythingup high,
losing your health insurance.
Here's my take.
That doesn't even cover the stroller and the car seat that I need to take this baby thatI'm about to have home from the hospital.
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$2,200 barely covers the cost of the basic.
It's not even 22.
is not 2200.
It's just up 200.
So the tax credit was already 2000.
Right.
to 2200.
Woo.
Republicans are saying, look at what we did.
We gave you 200.
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You know what I'd rather have?
Universal pre-K and know, child care, all those things.
I mean, guess thanks for the extra 200 that you're advocating for, but it really, youknow, doesn't do too much.
Yeah, and then there is uh the firing of the head of the Bureau in Labor Statistics uhlast weekend for doing her job, right?
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Her name is Erica McEntarfer.
Maybe I'm saying that wrong.
I don't know.
But she was the commissioner of the Bureau of Labor and Statistics.
And she basically corrected
corrected the report that came out, which apparently is not um abnormal.
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You figure out the preliminary numbers and then you go back and correct them.
And the report basically said that uh we didn't have hardly any job growth.
The initial report says that we came out and said that we had 144,000.
um jobs in May, but we actually only added 19,000.
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And the initial reports came out and said that we had 147,000 jobs in America added inJune, but then she corrected that report to say, well, that was actually only 14,000,
which is the truth.
uh Yeah.
But it's the truth, right?
And that's what they're doing.
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They're putting out facts and it shows slowing job gains.
probably because of rising inflation, because of the tariffs.
um And so what does Trump do?
I mean, it's just, we've talked about this actually the last time I was on, think justthis, uh this growing desire to ensure that the everyday American does not trust most if
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all any institutions, no facts, right?
They don't trust the government, they don't trust the media and how can they, you know?
But the whole world.
not going to trust going forward the numbers coming out of our government.
We certainly don't trust the Secretary of Health and Human Services right now.
um It's just, I mean, look, bad news, you just shoot the messenger.
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That is what, you know, like, Stalin does.
mean, this is what these regimes do.
um
And then we just keep going back to what's it going to take?
What is it going to take for the average person who's a follower of Trump to just go, now,wait a minute.
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Facts.
I mean, I just feel like you just have to keep talking about actual facts.
I know that's, but nobody has the right answer.
But mine is we just keep talking facts and people can feel it, right?
Go to the grocery store, see what the price of eggs is.
Go to the gas station.
You can see that Donald Trump's lying his ass off when it comes to gas prices.
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You know, I mean, that's what we just got to keep doing.
uh In the meantime, the anti-science agenda is real.
Trump has now ordered NASA to destroy satellites that were collecting data on climatechange.
Can you believe that?
We're like actually just destroying these satellites.
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Yes, I can believe it.
In the same breath, know, different subject matter, but same on science.
We've got RFK Junior defunding vaccinations and information this week as well.
So this administration has tried at every turn again to ensure that Americans don't trustour systems and our government, our experts, all of the above, and uh destroying these
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satellites in the name of
No longer talking about climate change is just another example.
mean, and of course, Republicans allowing this, cheering this on.
What about a waste of government funds?
Yeah, well, these satellites have been used by oil and gas companies.
They're used by farmers because they provide detailed information um on the distributionof carbon dioxide and how it affects crop health.
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um And so it's all looking at how human activity is affecting greenhouse gas emissions.
It's talking about forecasting uh severe weather and climate disasters.
Boy, we don't need any of that forecasting.
I mean, seriously.
We're going and destroying this stuff.
This is just, this is just crazy.
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And for what though, to me, that's the part that I don't understand.
It's already in use.
It's not like we're spending money to development.
Of course, we spend money to operate and gather the data, but still, I mean, where is theharm in moving forward with...
Yeah.
You're talking facts.
They don't want facts.
So these satellites are actually giving us the factual data and we don't want that.
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We'd rather just look the other way.
um I want to also bring up one last quick shot before we go into cheers, which is uhsomething that I just read this morning about the there is a uh Senate leader, a state
Senate leader, Republican in Utah, who um changed the consent law
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in that state uh because a relative of his faced rape charges, relative of his, guess, haduh sexual relations or sex with a 13 year old.
so the, yes, so he's changing the consent law.
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This was reported by the Newsweek and the Salt Lake City Tribune.
And it had to do with
uh somebody who was 18 and he's trying to change the law so that an 18 year old could beprosecuted like a 17 year old.
So it wouldn't have the adult line there with regards to basically uh raping a 13 yearold.
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And so that's where we're at.
I mean, this is what these guys spend their time doing, uh the party of family values.
oh
I'm just saying it's so.
We've got the Oklahoma's, you know, school superintendent with pornography on hiscomputer.
We've got, you know, Bibb County, Alabama.
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We're looking at it's just their inability to focus on the things that will make life foreveryday Americans better and instead cover up, lie, cheat, steal, whatever they can in
order to limit their own accountability is.
mean, this, like this would be front page news 10, 15 years ago.
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And now it's just, eh, we're so used to
I hadn't heard of that.
That's crazy.
Well, we here, as you know, Mallory at Truth in the Barrel, promise to never leave on adepressing note.
So I'm gonna take a moment to celebrate some actual good news.
You have a cheers today, I have a cheers today.
So let's start with yours.
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All right, well, mine is we touched on it earlier, but the Democrats are actually fightingback.
And as somebody who works in politics and political messaging, we've been calling on thisfor some time now.
So I just want to cheers with my water to Gavin Newsom, Kathy Hochul, Governor Pritzker,James Telerico, Jasmine Crockett, all of them for showing up and showing out and showing
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some spine over this past year.
Cheers.
All right.
Now I have a bit of a obscure story, but I think it's a good one to talk about reallyquick that I'd like to cheers to.
There is this runner in Texas, since we're all talking about Texas, um who helped change aTexas law, an old law that um was frankly pretty bad.
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And she helped to redefine what
consent means.
She is a sexual assault survivor.
She went to college at the University of Texas, um was raped while in college, wassexually assaulted, and um she has been an advocate to change this law for many years.
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She brought attention to the bad law by crawling 13 miles the night before the AustinMarathon.
which she ran the next day.
She's a runner.
She has run 29 marathons in one year in order to bring attention to this issue.
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And the way it stems back to is kind of in the weeds how the law was written in Texas, butin Texas prior to the change, her assaulter, which affected her, could not be prosecuted.
because Texas had this law that stated that if anyone was assaulted while they wereinebriated, okay, um it was only considered an assault if the perpetrator purposefully
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drugged the victim.
So what that meant was that if you're in college, okay, and you became intoxicatedbecause, you your assaulter's buddy put something in your drink.
then your assaulter could not be prosecuted.
Or it also meant that it wasn't considered a sexual assault if the alleged victim hadthemselves gotten themselves too intoxicated to consent.
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And so she had heard so many stories um how this affected other women and her advocacy umover many years running these marathons.
She decided to do the crawl.
because she thought that would bring even more attention to this.
And I thought her Instagram post was really powerful, where she basically explained whyshe was doing this 13-mile crawl.
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And she said, I'm on my hands and knees feeling the weight of all the stories I've heard,and I'm angry at the system.
And I don't know what else, and basically saying, I don't know what else to do, so I'mgonna do this.
And her Instagram post,
um said at the end, there was a quote, I'm just quoting from it, it says, there isstrength in crawling, there is hope in standing tall, and there will be change.
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And I just think that's amazing.
She got it, she got this law changed, her name is Summer Willis.
The change to the law is called, is named after her.
So cheers to her.
Cheers.
For doing what she can.
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All right.
Awesome.
So that was a great show.
It was a great show.
There's so much to talk about.
Which I guess is, you know, why unfiltered exists, right?
That's right.
That is there's so much to talk about.
uh And you can't have a guest do a deep dive all the time.
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You somehow have to talk about the here and now.
And that's what Unfiltered is about.
So thank you for joining us.
Please remember to like, subscribe, rate, review, uh give us some comments, tell us whatyou want to hear in terms of topics.
And we'll see you next week.
And Mallory.
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Thank you so much for co-hosting this week.
is awesome.
All right.
Cheers.
Today, we're taking an unfiltered look at how pandering to Trump now requiresgerrymandering.
Should we be worried about this back and forth nuclear saber rattling with Russia rightnow?
Plus, the House Oversight Committee subpoenas the Clintons because, of course they did.
The father of IVF continues to be just another deadbeat dad.
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Nebraskans put the pressure on one of their GOP reps kind enough to actually do a townhall last week.
The head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics has fired for doing her job.
And now our government is destroying satellites because right-wing whack jobs don't wantto think about climate change.
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This is truth in the barrel, a different kind of whiskey rebellion.
Welcome to Truth in the Barrel.
Denver is off this week, so we are happy to have our returning guest co-host, MalloryHagen.
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Hey, how are you?
Glad to be here.
I'm good, I'm good, things are well and we have a lot to talk about.
We do, the headlines you just went through.
You know, just another day in America.
You're scratching the surface here.
But while you all are subscribing to Mallory's show, Mallory, what's your show again?
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Yeah, I've got a podcast out with Maggie Gelson Burnett called Pretty Furious.
talk everything from pop culture to politics and occasionally a couple of beauty productsfrom here and there as well.
And you can find us over on Substack at Pretty Furious or on any of our social mediachannels as well.
Awesome.
So you also need to subscribe to this show, Truth in the Barrel, right?
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And rate and review us.
Feedback is always appreciated on all of your podcast platforms.
All right.
So let's talk gerrymandering, because there's a lot going on in our country right now,especially in Texas.
And I'm hearing a lot about both sides are to blame here.
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uh Before we start though, gerrymandering, the term itself, just so you all know, uh wasnamed after the Vice President of the United States in the early 1800s.
His name was Elbridge Gerry and he just happened to sign the bill that resulted in the lawthat allowed gerrymandering.
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Sorry for him, his name will always be part of this uh bad thing that we think about.
But what is gerrymandering anyway?
Yeah, so every 10 years, you know, the census is taken.
They redraw the districts based on population movements around the state or around thecountry.
So the Constitution states that the state legislature has to draw the districts and everystate does it differently.
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We could debate whether or not that's fair.
um Some states do have independent commissions, which I think many people would say is thebest best method to move forward in a way that's objective.
But, you know, who decides?
it really matters, you know, Ohio can have a 55 to 44 split and also have 10 out of 15 reddistricts.
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So I think it's something that people should really be paying attention to, especiallywhen their state legislatures are working on redistricting and Lord knows I'm no stranger
to it here in Alabama.
Yeah, and this is why the down ballot races of House seats, State House seats, and StateSenate seats are so important because they have national implications, especially what's
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happening in Texas right now.
So Donald Trump, once he's going into the midterms and they're seeing that the Republicansare likely to lose the House because uh the American public is sort of fed up with what
the Republicans are doing right now.
And Donald Trump says, well, I want more red house seats.
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I'm, quote, entitled to them.
I mean, that's what he said.
So he told Texas and the governor of Texas, who is happy to kiss Trump's ass, toredistrict Texas.
So the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, is bringing the legislature uh in Texas back intosession in the middle of a decade.
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Okay.
And that's what's so different about
doing this now, it's not a matter of the legislature gerrymandering, that does happen.
It happens, as you said, after the census, which is every 10 years.
So it's sort of, this is way outside the normal process, it's unprecedented.
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And that's why all the uproar right now.
Well, I think the thing is, like, you know, it turns out as you've done many episodes onthat programs that are necessary for everyday Americans to survive like Medicaid and snap,
cutting them is not hugely popular, even in a quote unquote red state.
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And when you consider, you know, the issues with FEMA post national disaster, post naturaldisaster and, you know, the the budget cuts to education,
The climate change issues, mean, what's happening with Republicans right now is just notpopular.
And they know that, you know, he's looking to add five seats because he knows that hecan't win any other way.
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And as has been stated by the many Democrats who are standing up against this around thecountry, it's the Republican playbook.
If you can't win on policy, you just change the rules.
You just change the rules over and over again.
And um that's why.
your voters!
Yeah, you pick your voters and it's been stated that these maps that they're proposing forTexas are incredibly racist.
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And I think when you consider the history of this country, that's no surprise.
But it is an important element of it, that it's not just taking away the voting power ofAmericans, it's silencing marginalized voices already.
And that's an even bigger issue.
Yeah, and there's a time to redistrict.
It's not now.
It's not in the middle of the 10-year uh plan that the Constitution lays out.
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And by the way, uh know, Democrats are standing up to this, criticizing this all aroundthe country, but Texas Democrats in the House and in the Texas Senate, um they have
actually not just talked about standing up to it, they left the state.
They left the state.
This is very controversial.
uh Because if you don't have a quorum, if you don't go into the session and you don't haveenough people, you can't call the legislature into session and then can't vote on the
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redistricting madness that the governor and Trump want done.
So the governor has like called for their arrest.
They're being welcomed by other states like Massachusetts, Illinois.
uh
And, you know, the question that I have is, well, a couple of questions.
One, where will this go?
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Okay.
Where does it end?
And then two, I really want to talk about the both sidesism because I'm hearing that youhear this constantly from Republicans.
Well, Democrats, they Derrymander.
So this is no different.
We're just taking it from the Democrats playbook.
So before we get into that, where do you think this will all go?
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Well, first of all, I just want to say that, you know, the governor calling for the arrestof state legislature, like the state legislature in general or legislators is, is
absolutely out of anything I could have ever pictured.
And I know that we say that on a daily basis, but when you really think about that, thegovernor is proposing that legislators come in to do something that they'll be forced to
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do because they're not in the majority.
And instead of them coming, they're standing up for the people that they represent andhe's calling for them to be arrested.
um But those warrants only apply within state lines.
So as long as they're not in the state of Texas, it's really for not.
I think that it's worth noting.
I I know we keep throwing around words like authoritarian and fascist, but I mean, this isthat.
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It's crazy.
And the other side has done this too.
mean, leaving the state in order to protest and basically say, we're not even going tocome to a vote because it is so egregious what you are trying to do is so outside the norm
of the legislative process and so blatantly partisan and wrong that, you know, there havebeen both sides been able to do this in the past.
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also just think it's really important at a time when so many of us who are not MAGA, evenconservative people who used to consider themselves Republican, are calling on the
Democrats to use the power that they do have to stand up against everything that'shappening.
um And I know we'll cheers at them a little bit, but I just, really want to commend themfor using the power of the media and protest to really bring this to light because so much
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is happening and so much is getting lost.
in our media cycle about what's going on.
And so I think them taking this opportunity to really make sure that every American knowswhat Donald Trump and Greg Abbott are up to is it was the right moment to take this
measure.
Because it is wrong.
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And while it is true in the past, both sides gerrymander.
That does happen.
um Right, and that is where the difference is.
So right now you're hearing folks say, Democrats do this all the time.
Look at my districts in Maryland.
It's the most gerrymandered district in the country, blah, blah, blah.
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The fact is that Republicans
benefit way more from gerrymandering around the country, certainly in recent years.
So there's a lot of facts behind this, OK?
So I'm going to throw out a couple of them.
uh Half the states in our country, the drawing process isn't fully controlled by one partyor another.
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Maybe the state has a split legislative control.
Maybe it's the courts.
Maybe they have independent redistricting commissions.
But Republicans get more opportunities to gerrymander because they typically have uh morefull control of the states that allow the legislatures to gerrymander.
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So it's Republicans that have full control over lots of those states.
They have what's called a trifecta.
They have the governor's mansion.
They have both chambers in the state legislature.
So they are able to redistrict in a much more partisan way when they have that control.
So 2020 was brutal for Democrats.
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Republicans controlled the drawing of 177 districts.
Democrats controlled the drawing of only 49.
And it is a fact that blue states are more likely to allow independent commissions.
So this is why, you know, like a lot of people criticize Democrats because a lot ofDemocrats are like, try to play fair.
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They like try to like, hey, let's have an independent.
Whereas the red states are like coming into, know, coming in with a hammer and basicallysaying, gonna gerrymander the shit out of their states.
Yeah, the Brennan Center found that out of 11, or there were 11 Republican drawn maps thathad extreme partisan bias.
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And that was compared to four by Democrats.
I mean, sure, both sides, but.
More maps clearly have a bias toward Republicans than Democrats across the country.
And that is a fact.
And so what you're seeing right now with Texas taking this unprecedented step in themiddle of the decade, again, you're supposed to do this after the census, which is after
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every 10 years, which is at the end of the decade.
uh
So now you're seeing blue states like New York and California, their governor saying,know, I'm tired of this.
I'm tired of playing fair.
If Texas is gonna do this, we're gonna redistrict our states.
So we're all sort of like in a race to the bottom right now.
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Yeah, and I guess we could debate the morals and ethics of that as well, right?
If somebody is doing the wrong thing, if we're meeting them there, then we're all doingthe wrong thing.
But I think what we've seen over the last decade is at some point we've got to meet themwhere they are because they're a couple of steps ahead, it seems, at all times.
know, Kathy Hochul came out uh governor of New York this week and said, this is a war.
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This isn't even a battle anymore.
This isn't one little blip.
in the long game, she was like, we've, we've got to, if they're going to, if they're notgoing to play by the rules, then neither are we.
Yeah.
And, um, you know, I think that same thing in California, Gavin Newsom has come out andsaid, we will use the full force of everything we've got in California.
And California is the fourth largest economy.
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It's the most populous state in the union.
You know, they're, they're California is the same size as 21 state populations combined.
So
He has been working with their state legislature to put in a trigger.
So if Texas passes, then it will trigger California to redistrict.
They will allow Californians to actually vote on the redistricting, which novel concept.
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But em yeah, think places like New York and California, not only from an economicperspective, but just from a population perspective are saying, don't play a game that you
you might not be able to win when it comes to the Humberts.
And I'm glad for that.
Like, I feel like we're at a point where we have to bring in the big guns.
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I mean, we have to, we have to.
Because we can't allow these Republicans to continue to do this over and over again.
I mean, I would like there to be no gerrymandering.
Of course.
think most Democrats would agree with me.
think probably most Americans would agree with me.
But put a bill that bans partisan gerrymandering
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across the country on the floor right now, Democrats will vote for it.
I think Democrats will vote for it.
Republicans won't because they know that um if gerrymandering goes away in the nationalsense, that the national maps become fair and they will lose the majority.
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They have to because then they have to compete on policy.
Yeah.
They can't just draw their voters out.
You know, I do want to say before we wrap up on gerrymandering, there are many Texaslawmakers right now, particularly Democrats, who typically are not thrust into the
national spotlight.
There are a couple that we see here and there, but I want to really commend the Democraticlawmakers from the state of Texas who have found, I shouldn't say found themselves.
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This is obviously a conscious decision that they made, but I think that they've handledthe press really well.
They've gotten some really good sound bites out there.
The messaging has been, you know,
on par and they've worked together and it's very clear that they thought this through andit was it was really like um You know, it was purposeful Yeah, and I think that we should
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we should kudos them for that because it's hard as hard as you know It's hard to go fromlike kind of being in your state bubble to suddenly your face is on everything in the
national news
Well, you know what?
Cheers to them a little bit early too.
But here's the thing.
These folks, um that's good.
We'll talk about that later on.
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ah But these folks are standing up not only for Texas, they're standing up for ourcountry.
And so, yeah, I totally agree with you.
Anyone who says though that they're abdicating their duties, I would just have them turnthat energy to their lawmakers, their Republican congressmen and say, then get your ass
back to DC and vote to release the vaccine files.
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Amen to that.
All right.
As if the month of August wasn't already hot enough, Trump has decided now would be a goodtime once again to raise the specter of nuclear war with Russia.
Yeah.
And the other thing about this, we'll get into this in a second, but I feel like theRepublicans in general and Donald Trump for sure always want to change the subject from
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Epstein.
I really don't.
I really don't want them to ratchet up nuclear saber rattling as one of those things.
There's lots of ways to distract.
You could go after Rosie O'Donnell or you can, was it Beyonce one week?
Okay, I don't wanna say all that's fine, but the nuclear saber rattling, maybe let's notdo that.
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Maybe let's...
Okay, tell us what happened.
So a couple of weeks ago, this guy named Dmitry Medvedev, who used to be the Russianpresident before he was sort of ousted by Putin, um he is now the deputy chairman of the
Security Council of the Russian Federation, but he makes a lot of threats all the time.
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we should kind of like sort of not listen to him.
It's not shocking that he makes these threats.
uh Donald Trump decided to respond.
over the weekend by saying he's moving our nuclear submarines near Russia.
um Which Fox News called clever, you know, how Fox News gushes over everything that DonaldTrump does, especially on a national security front.
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It's not very clever to have Trump tweeting out that he's moving nuclear submarines nearRussia.
Also, just pause.
Trump's not doing anything, right?
Like our nuclear program is highly, highly classified on purpose.
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Yeah, well, it's okay.
So tweeting out that you're moving nuclear submarines as a threat is kind of dumb.
Okay, first of all, all submarines that we have are nuclear, they're nuclear powered.
So to say that you're moving nuclear submarines, like in all caps, well, no shit, all ofthem are nuclear powered, okay?
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We have some of them that have nuclear weapon capable ballistic missiles um on them.
Maybe that's what he meant.
Nobody knows because I don't think Donald Trump knows.
was gonna say, I didn't even know what he meant.
The man was wandering around a rooftop this week.
Nobody knows where our submarines are at by design.
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And those submarines that can launch ICBMs or intercontinental ballistic missiles, nucleartip missiles, they can do that from pretty much anywhere in the world and hit Russia.
So moving a sub closer to Russia doesn't really mean anything operationally.
And you would never want to tell anyone where you're at ever.
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So Trump's words are just dumb.
for anybody that knows this stuff.
Well, it seems to be a prerequisite, right?
We've got Hexeth and the Signal Chat.
mean, we're just telling everybody what we're doing.
Yeah, so Trump did this and I didn't do anything.
I didn't say anything about it, you know, because oh I was like, okay, that's dumb.
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I know about that.
like, so, so what is it really?
It's just saber rattling.
So when what is Russia going to do now?
Russia comes back and says, well, we're not going to abide by the the INF Treaty.
Well, folks, the INF Treaty is called the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.
Basically, it's been dead for many years already.
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So um it's it's kind of
stupid to even say you're not abiding by it.
Russia hasn't been abiding by it for decades.
um So it's kind of a nothing burger at this point.
The INF Treaty, by the way, was something we instituted back in the Cold War.
It was a good thing in my mind back in the Cold War because it got rid of an entire classof a certain type of nuclear missile that covered a certain range.
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we wanted to get rid of missiles in Europe.
um to at least reduce the numbers.
So we came up with this treaty with the Soviet Union at the time to get rid of that classof nuclear uh missiles that could be launched into Europe, that sort of about 300 miles or
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so to a couple thousand miles.
We still had the intercontinental missiles, so we never got rid of the big long ones, butwe got rid of the sort of intermediate ones, and that was good.
The problem, Mallory, was that Vladimir Putin violated that treaty a couple of decadesago.
And so the Trump administration, the first one, pulled out, pulled the United States outof the treaty.
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So we've been out of it for a while.
So now Russia's saying that they're pulling out of it.
I mean, I just don't think this is a big deal.
So it's a nothing burger, but you think it's more of a distraction.
It's a tactic to try and divert.
Well, I think, first of all, I think that Donald Trump and perhaps many in his team don'tunderstand ah nuclear weapons.
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ah And so my concern, I don't think it's a big deal that Russia is pulling out of thistreaty.
I do think it is a big deal about the saber rattling.
I think it's a bad idea to be tweeting out shit about nuclear weapons, just in general.
My bomb's bigger than your bomb.
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That's not good.
We are 80 years, Mallory, from the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
That actually happened this week, 80 years ago.
um That is a big deal, okay?
We should never ever be using nuclear weapons.
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And to sort of flippantly talk about these things,
I think is a real problem.
And I also think the bigger issue is that the only major arms control agreement, nucleararms control agreement that we have left in place with Moscow is the New START Treaty.
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And that treaty expires next year.
I do not believe the Trump team has the competence.
within the State Department, within their political appointees, that anybody that can workon this.
And that, believe, is a much bigger concern.
Yeah, and you've been sounding the alarm for a long time now about how a Donald Trumppresidency is truly dangerous for international diplomacy, for our national security, and
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this is just yet another example, right?
He's unfit to be the commander in chief.
He's unfit to lead our troops, and tweeting about nuclear bombs or being...
no reason.
For no reason.
It's just yet another example of...
how unserious this man is.
mean, you don't respond to Medvedev.
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He's not Putin.
uh
They all know Trump's playbook.
They all know that all they have to do is just, is just dangles.
Yeah.
Poke, poke the bear a little bit and he'll do exactly what they want him to.
Yeah.
So anyway, we go from saber rattling to subpoena waving as the house moves sort of on theEpstein case, right?
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What's going on?
What's going on?
They're at home in their districts.
oh What's our good friend Jamie Comer doing?
my gosh, well, of course they did, right?
Of course they issued subpoenas right now.
So he's always got to pull some shit out of his hat to get a headline.
There are eight former attorneys general and FBI directors that have been subpoenaed umbecause Trump refuses to release the info.
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We can go over this again and again and again, but if you're not guilty, just release thefiles and let us know.
There's definitely not a dead body in my backyard guys.
Don't look there.
But if you do and there is a dead body.
He's the thing, Jamie Comer is the master of like trying to build a headline.
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Like, don't look here, look at the Clintons.
Look at the Clintons, you know?
it's like they predated the Epstein investigation.
like, there's no there there.
I mean, yeah, there's.
know what?
We can say it again.
And if there is something there, also hold them accountable.
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Hold everyone accountable.
That's the piece that I just don't think, I don't think Republicans are grasping.
You know, in the comment section of my videos on TikTok and Instagram, people are like,what about Biden and what about Clinton?
And I'm like, what about him?
Arrest him too.
What do you mean?
If you're a child predator, if you've done something that's this egregious and wrong, thenyou're not going to catch me being like, don't don't arrest Joe Biden.
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What?
Of course.
I think it's the same.
Kind of ludicrous.
they're subpoenaing all these attorney generals and stuff.
Interestingly, they're not subpoenaing the former US attorney.
His name was, and former Secretary of Labor under Trump won, Alex Acosta.
They're not subpoenaing him.
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Now he was the guy who was, as US attorney in 2008, who gave the sweetheart deal to...
Jeffrey Epstein, who made this plea deal that gave Epstein immunity, right, from federalprosecution.
They did not subpoena him to ask him why or what that deal was all about, but they didsubpoena all these other people.
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It just makes sense.
And by the way, the president's stuff, oh, subpoena Obama and Clinton and over the last200 years, only four other presidents have received subpoenas for.
from congressional committees, right?
Only two of them have ever provided testimony.
um The House couldn't even subpoena Trump for January 6th.
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So I don't think there's any presidents are gonna come standing in front, sitting in frontof Jamie Comer and testify here.
Plus, know, John Roberts gave all the presidents immunity for anything they did in office,so.
Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall of some of these folks?
Like I could just see, you know, someone handing Barack Obama a subpoena and him going, mygosh, for f*** sake.
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Or something.
But you know, there's a couple of people that had some really good points that I waslistening to this week about the subpoenaing of the former presidents, because you're not
just going after the former presidents, you're also going after their staff.
And, you know, there could be repercussions for that.
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You know, these people get their names get back in the news.
We have some violent, crazy people out there.
just, know, this Epstein stuff.
It's just a big tumbleweed of crap.
And it comes down to this, and you said it perfectly.
We're to the point where just release the information to the public.
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Stop this underground, we're gonna have hearings on the House Oversight Committee, butwe're not gonna open it to the public and we're gonna subpoena all these people.
Bullshit, nobody trusts you.
You know, we were talking about distractions and diversions.
And this entire time we've thought that all these other things were a distraction fromEpstein.
But now I'm starting to wonder, is Epstein a distraction from something much worse?
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Because, I mean, like I said, if you're not guilty, it's two plus two equals four.
If you're not guilty, release the information, say, I didn't have anything to do with it.
I haven't spoken to that man since, you know, 15 years or whatever it is that he said, andlet it go.
And instead we're just, we're winding it up to make it even worse.
And that makes me, now I'm starting to wonder.
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Every week we're gonna be talking about something different, you know?
And also they moved right after uh they sent their lawyer down, uh Trump sent his lawyerdown to talk with Maxwell.
She's now in a uh nicer prison.
and saying that she never witnessed him in any wrongdoing.
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Mm.
Everything's right in front of us, guys.
Anyway.
Okay.
It is time for me, I should say, to get a drink because...
Please.
Please There's so much going on.
But I want to tell everybody what I'm drinking today because this is really cool.
uh So you may or may not know that just in the last week, there was a uh plan that wasreleased for three...
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European countries, our NATO allies, our new NATO allies, um one of them being Sweden.
Thank you, Joe Biden.
uh Sweden, Denmark, and Norway are going to buy $500 million worth of weapons they'regoing to buy from the United States, weapons and ammunition from the United States.
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So we're producing the ammunition.
And give it to Ukraine.
is awesome.
Now I wish we could in the United States could do that ourselves.
I mean, we should be doing more for Ukraine.
But thank you to Sweden, Denmark and Norway for stepping up.
And so because of that, I'm drinking what's called Stoning Rye Whiskey.
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It's from Denmark and um it's really good.
It's created from rye grains from the west coast of Denmark.
It's got kind of a peppery
smell to it and when you taste it.
It's a little bit of like dark chocolate and espresso, and you can really taste the darkchocolate in there.
(31:30):
It's a bit, know, wine enthusiasts, I was reading up on it uh before I got it, wineenthusiasts called it a bit like a s'mores made on slices of rye bread.
So it's actually quite good, and it's uh kind of rare.
So the way that it's made, it's made what's,
(31:51):
and Denver would be able to explain it a little bit better, but it's made by using floormalting, which is a rare traditional method of malting grains um close to the floor.
So I don't know what that does for you, but it sure tastes good.
And it's from Denmark, and I'm really excited because I thank them for what they're doingfor Ukraine.
(32:15):
Yeah, absolutely.
I don't have any thoughts on the drink itself.
As people may remember, I am pregnant, but my best friend lives in Copenhagen and I loveDenmark.
So that feels serendipitous.
Cheers.
awesome.
You'll have to ask her if she or he knows about this.
It's called Staunton, Stauning, sorry, Stauning Rye Whiskey.
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Yeah, and this is part of this package that my husband got me for Christmas.
It's like a whiskey of the world tasting where you get like 30 different whiskies.
And so that was, it's kind of cool.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay.
Savoring the taste is over.
So it's time to line up some quick shots, okay?
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The first one we got is tensions erupt uh at Republican representative Mike Flood'sNebraska town hall.
This guy, and maybe Doug can put in a clip of it.
Why does it seem like when you make your voting decisions, they're based on capital ratherthan the working class?
billionaires and corporations Got their tax issues enshrined in the law forever But theworking class gives a no tax on gifts or overtime that only applies to some of us and now
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we wind up in a situation where we are
god!
respect,
uh The Republican Party, now more than ever, represents the heart and soul of the workingclass.
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This guy goes back to his district, which kudos actually for him for having a town hall.
Yeah, because most Republicans won't do it.
We've got a ton of them in Kentucky that won't town halls.
So this Republican rep was asked about cuts to Medicaid and his response was, we don'thave unlimited money.
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Yeah.
Can I read you the quote of this woman that's going viral of what she asked?
She said, 450 million FEMA dollars being reallocated to open Alligator Alcatraz and 600million taxpayer FEMA dollars being used to open more concentration camps and ICE burning
through 8.4 million dollars a day, which by the way, now they are forgiving people studentloans for joining the ICE task force.
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anyway, all of that to illegally detain people.
She said, how much does it cost?
for fascism, how much do the taxpayers have to pay for a fascist country?
And the clips of that are kind of insane.
Yeah.
Well, and the thing is, you know, to say we don't have unlimited money, okay.
It's not that it's like what you choose to spend.
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What you do have or what you could have, you chose to um give all these billionaires taxbreaks.
You chose to give the billionaires more money.
m You chose to give them more money and you chose to take away
from everyday Americans on their healthcare.
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That's what this is about.
at least, again, kudos to the Republican representative for at least showing up and kindof trying to explain it because we've got reps here in Kentucky.
Andy Barr, he's the representative in the sixth congressional district in Kentucky.
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He just blot out lies.
He just flat out says to constituents, the bill doesn't cut Medicaid.
oh
Well, isn't that kind of what's happening here too?
He's saying it strengthens Medicaid.
I mean, guess that depends on your definition of strengthening Medicaid.
Maybe to them that's spending less money on people who they don't.
He said it strengthens Medicaid.
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we strengthen Medicaid by cutting it.
Oh, guess.
Yeah, I'll give it to him for for showing up.
But as I said, that's the bare minimum.
My only hope is that hearing every single person in that room that's your constituentssay, you know, vote him out in front of his face.
I would hope that that would move the needle as we were talking about to some of theseRepublicans standing up for their constituents, the people who elected them.
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um It's just crazy.
You know, Alabama is looking at closing.
I think we have five hospitals right now that are
literally on the brink with 20 more following because of these budget cuts.
And I know that that's happening state by state.
So I hope more of these lawmakers spend August talking to people face to face and gettingin the business about what they've
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Mallory, it didn't take me long to like just Google your state and a Republicanrepresentative in your state with regards to this bill and how it affects Medicaid.
they're all pretty, many of them are all pretty much lying.
I mean, there's one, it didn't take me long to find Gary Palmer in Alabama.
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That's one of your reps there in Alabama who said Medicaid cuts will not cause people tolose their health insurance.
Are you kidding me?
Like, they just why?
177,000 people here who lose their health insurance.
So it's crazy.
All right.
Remember this Mallory when uh Donald Trump claimed that he would be the fertilizationpresident and the father of IVF.
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Remember that?
I'm a woman in America, of course I do.
Remember the campaign promise where, and this was backed up by a lot of Republican women,okay, who championed Donald Trump saying this, that when he got into office, he would make
sure that the government would either pay for IVF services or the government would issuerules requiring insurance companies to cover treatment for it.
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So here we are.
We now find out that there's no plan.
to mandate coverage.
supposed to be released in May.
Yet another lie.
Yeah, you're kicking moms off of Medicaid.
uh You're leaving kids with less food.
You know, but no plan for IVF.
(38:38):
Well, mean, consistently they talk about the fact that they want more women to have morebabies and everything that they do says the exact opposite of that.
Yeah, it's.
I wanted to get your take on something because you're in Alabama.
uh Senator Katie Britt from Alabama, she is championing this law that increased the childtax credit from 2000 to 2200, as if like that super substantial.
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That's looking great, but like seriously when tariffs are driving the cost of everythingup high,
losing your health insurance.
Here's my take.
That doesn't even cover the stroller and the car seat that I need to take this baby thatI'm about to have home from the hospital.
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$2,200 barely covers the cost of the basic.
It's not even 22.
is not 2200.
It's just up 200.
So the tax credit was already 2000.
Right.
to 2200.
Woo.
Republicans are saying, look at what we did.
We gave you 200.
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You know what I'd rather have?
Universal pre-K and know, child care, all those things.
I mean, guess thanks for the extra 200 that you're advocating for, but it really, youknow, doesn't do too much.
Yeah, and then there is uh the firing of the head of the Bureau in Labor Statistics uhlast weekend for doing her job, right?
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Her name is Erica McEntarfer.
Maybe I'm saying that wrong.
I don't know.
But she was the commissioner of the Bureau of Labor and Statistics.
And she basically corrected
corrected the report that came out, which apparently is not um abnormal.
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You figure out the preliminary numbers and then you go back and correct them.
And the report basically said that uh we didn't have hardly any job growth.
The initial report says that we came out and said that we had 144,000.
um jobs in May, but we actually only added 19,000.
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And the initial reports came out and said that we had 147,000 jobs in America added inJune, but then she corrected that report to say, well, that was actually only 14,000,
which is the truth.
uh Yeah.
But it's the truth, right?
And that's what they're doing.
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They're putting out facts and it shows slowing job gains.
probably because of rising inflation, because of the tariffs.
um And so what does Trump do?
I mean, it's just, we've talked about this actually the last time I was on, think justthis, uh this growing desire to ensure that the everyday American does not trust most if
(41:53):
all any institutions, no facts, right?
They don't trust the government, they don't trust the media and how can they, you know?
But the whole world.
not going to trust going forward the numbers coming out of our government.
We certainly don't trust the Secretary of Health and Human Services right now.
um It's just, I mean, look, bad news, you just shoot the messenger.
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That is what, you know, like, Stalin does.
mean, this is what these regimes do.
um
And then we just keep going back to what's it going to take?
What is it going to take for the average person who's a follower of Trump to just go, now,wait a minute.
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Facts.
I mean, I just feel like you just have to keep talking about actual facts.
I know that's, but nobody has the right answer.
But mine is we just keep talking facts and people can feel it, right?
Go to the grocery store, see what the price of eggs is.
Go to the gas station.
You can see that Donald Trump's lying his ass off when it comes to gas prices.
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You know, I mean, that's what we just got to keep doing.
uh In the meantime, the anti-science agenda is real.
Trump has now ordered NASA to destroy satellites that were collecting data on climatechange.
Can you believe that?
We're like actually just destroying these satellites.
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Yes, I can believe it.
In the same breath, know, different subject matter, but same on science.
We've got RFK Junior defunding vaccinations and information this week as well.
So this administration has tried at every turn again to ensure that Americans don't trustour systems and our government, our experts, all of the above, and uh destroying these
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satellites in the name of
No longer talking about climate change is just another example.
mean, and of course, Republicans allowing this, cheering this on.
What about a waste of government funds?
Yeah, well, these satellites have been used by oil and gas companies.
They're used by farmers because they provide detailed information um on the distributionof carbon dioxide and how it affects crop health.
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um And so it's all looking at how human activity is affecting greenhouse gas emissions.
It's talking about forecasting uh severe weather and climate disasters.
Boy, we don't need any of that forecasting.
I mean, seriously.
We're going and destroying this stuff.
This is just, this is just crazy.
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And for what though, to me, that's the part that I don't understand.
It's already in use.
It's not like we're spending money to development.
Of course, we spend money to operate and gather the data, but still, I mean, where is theharm in moving forward with...
Yeah.
You're talking facts.
They don't want facts.
So these satellites are actually giving us the factual data and we don't want that.
(44:58):
We'd rather just look the other way.
um I want to also bring up one last quick shot before we go into cheers, which is uhsomething that I just read this morning about the there is a uh Senate leader, a state
Senate leader, Republican in Utah, who um changed the consent law
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in that state uh because a relative of his faced rape charges, relative of his, guess, haduh sexual relations or sex with a 13 year old.
so the, yes, so he's changing the consent law.
(45:42):
This was reported by the Newsweek and the Salt Lake City Tribune.
And it had to do with
uh somebody who was 18 and he's trying to change the law so that an 18 year old could beprosecuted like a 17 year old.
So it wouldn't have the adult line there with regards to basically uh raping a 13 yearold.
(46:08):
And so that's where we're at.
I mean, this is what these guys spend their time doing, uh the party of family values.
oh
I'm just saying it's so.
We've got the Oklahoma's, you know, school superintendent with pornography on hiscomputer.
We've got, you know, Bibb County, Alabama.
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We're looking at it's just their inability to focus on the things that will make life foreveryday Americans better and instead cover up, lie, cheat, steal, whatever they can in
order to limit their own accountability is.
mean, this, like this would be front page news 10, 15 years ago.
(46:53):
And now it's just, eh, we're so used to
I hadn't heard of that.
That's crazy.
Well, we here, as you know, Mallory at Truth in the Barrel, promise to never leave on adepressing note.
So I'm gonna take a moment to celebrate some actual good news.
You have a cheers today, I have a cheers today.
So let's start with yours.
(47:13):
All right, well, mine is we touched on it earlier, but the Democrats are actually fightingback.
And as somebody who works in politics and political messaging, we've been calling on thisfor some time now.
So I just want to cheers with my water to Gavin Newsom, Kathy Hochul, Governor Pritzker,James Telerico, Jasmine Crockett, all of them for showing up and showing out and showing
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some spine over this past year.
Cheers.
All right.
Now I have a bit of a obscure story, but I think it's a good one to talk about reallyquick that I'd like to cheers to.
There is this runner in Texas, since we're all talking about Texas, um who helped change aTexas law, an old law that um was frankly pretty bad.
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And she helped to redefine what
consent means.
She is a sexual assault survivor.
She went to college at the University of Texas, um was raped while in college, wassexually assaulted, and um she has been an advocate to change this law for many years.
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She brought attention to the bad law by crawling 13 miles the night before the AustinMarathon.
which she ran the next day.
She's a runner.
She has run 29 marathons in one year in order to bring attention to this issue.
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And the way it stems back to is kind of in the weeds how the law was written in Texas, butin Texas prior to the change, her assaulter, which affected her, could not be prosecuted.
because Texas had this law that stated that if anyone was assaulted while they wereinebriated, okay, um it was only considered an assault if the perpetrator purposefully
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drugged the victim.
So what that meant was that if you're in college, okay, and you became intoxicatedbecause, you your assaulter's buddy put something in your drink.
then your assaulter could not be prosecuted.
Or it also meant that it wasn't considered a sexual assault if the alleged victim hadthemselves gotten themselves too intoxicated to consent.
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And so she had heard so many stories um how this affected other women and her advocacy umover many years running these marathons.
She decided to do the crawl.
because she thought that would bring even more attention to this.
And I thought her Instagram post was really powerful, where she basically explained whyshe was doing this 13-mile crawl.
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And she said, I'm on my hands and knees feeling the weight of all the stories I've heard,and I'm angry at the system.
And I don't know what else, and basically saying, I don't know what else to do, so I'mgonna do this.
And her Instagram post,
um said at the end, there was a quote, I'm just quoting from it, it says, there isstrength in crawling, there is hope in standing tall, and there will be change.
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And I just think that's amazing.
She got it, she got this law changed, her name is Summer Willis.
The change to the law is called, is named after her.
So cheers to her.
Cheers.
For doing what she can.
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All right.
Awesome.
So that was a great show.
It was a great show.
There's so much to talk about.
Which I guess is, you know, why unfiltered exists, right?
That's right.
That is there's so much to talk about.
uh And you can't have a guest do a deep dive all the time.
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You somehow have to talk about the here and now.
And that's what Unfiltered is about.
So thank you for joining us.
Please remember to like, subscribe, rate, review, uh give us some comments, tell us whatyou want to hear in terms of topics.
And we'll see you next week.
And Mallory.
(51:43):
Thank you so much for co-hosting this week.
is awesome.
All right.
Cheers.
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