He was a pastor’s kid hiding panic attacks—and now he’s a national advocate for mental health.
In Episode 38 of TURTZED, Charlie sits down with Patrick Custer, podcast host of Rooted Recovery Stories, mental health advocate, and Nashville-based storyteller, to talk about the long-term effects of spiritual abuse, hidden shame, and growing up in a world where being “too much” was punished.
From severe illness as a child to confronting internalized homophobia in adulthood, Patrick shares how unhealed trauma manifested as chronic illness, anxiety, and eventually substance use—until the pain became impossible to ignore.
This conversation is a deeply honest exploration of religious trauma, identity, healing through embodiment, and the power of building spaces where people feel seen.
Patrick Custer:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thepatrickcuster
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepatrickcuster
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thepatrickcuster
Rooted Recovery Stories:
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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rootedrecoverystories
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00:00 Meet Patrick Custer and the Origin of ReWritten
02:35 Growing Up in the Church with Internalized Shame
04:58 Being Told You’re “Too Much” and the Pain That Causes
07:04 Childhood Illness and the Disconnect from the Body
09:42 The Layers of Spiritual Abuse and Suppressed Identity
12:31 Religion as a Weapon Instead of a Tool
14:57 How Trauma Shows Up in the Body
17:28 When Shame Makes You Sick
20:11 Processing Grief After the Loss of His Father
23:09 Recovery and the Beginning of the Healing Process
25:48 Why People Don’t Talk About Shame
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