March 21, 2025 • 26 mins
🎙 Episode 394: Parents, If You Were the Coach, Would You Give Your Athlete More Ice Time?
In this episode of the Warrior Confidence Hockey Podcast, Rich Grogan discusses the essential elements of earning a coach's trust and gaining ice time in key game situations. He emphasizes that trust is earned through hard work, practice, and a positive mindset. Grogan provides practical tips for athletes, parents, and coaches on how to develop the right attitude, communicate effectively, and overcome challenges in the competitive world of hockey. The conversation highlights the importance of continuous learning and personal growth in achieving success both on and off the ice.
Takeaways:
- Trust is earned, not given.
- Respect and ice time must be earned through hard work.
- The importance of practice in building trust with coaches.
- Athletes must stand out from the crowd to gain recognition.
- Mindset is crucial; athletes should aim to win every shift.
- Communication with coaches is key; eye contact shows respect.
- Off-ice training is as important as on-ice performance.
- Criticism is a part of growth; learn to handle it.
- Embrace your unique talents and work hard to develop them.
- Continuous learning and growth are essential for success.
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Let's be honest, if you were the coach, would you put your athlete
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Let's be honest.
If you were the coach, would you put your athlete on the ice in key game situations?
Late in the game, protecting your lead, or if you're down by a goal on the penalty kill,power play.
Do you trust your athlete enough to perform under that type of pressure?
And if that answer isn't a resounding yes right off the bat, then that's what we gottalook at.
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Because I'm telling you, coaches, that is what they look for.
They look for players they can trust, players they can put out there in key gamesituations.
late in the game, penalty kill, power play, those situations that require the utmosttrust.
And how do you earn that trust?
How do you gain that respect from the coach?
It's all done by what you do behind the scenes.
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It's what you do in practice.
Sure, trust is solidified in games, but it's earned in practice.
And that's exactly what we're going to be talking about today.
I'm going to give you the tools, the tips, the techniques, the strategies, and whatexactly, what your athlete needs to do and what you can help them with in order to earn
that trust in that ice time.
So hey, stick around.
If you find value in this, make sure you share it with someone else.
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Welcome champions.
I'm master coach Rich Grogan and this is the Warrior Confidence Hockey Podcast.
The go-to show for parents, coaches, and players on what you need to do to earn thatcoaches trust, to earn that ice time, to earn those leadership roles, to get out there in
key game situations.
And that's exactly what we're talking about today.
And I started off by asking parents, if you were the coach, would you trust your athletein key game situations?
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Once again, if that isn't a resounding right off the top, yes, I can trust them, thenthere's the problem.
And that's what we're gonna work on today.
So I want you to think about it.
And here's your wham, right hook of reality.
Nothing is given.
Respect, it's not given, it's earned.
Ice time, it's not given, it's earned.
Trust, it's not given, it's earned.
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And you know that.
Well, here's what I'm gonna help you with.
I'm gonna help give you the tools to help work with your player.
Now, I'm talking to you, parents and coaches.
But obviously I would love for your kiddos to hear this.
It's the message they need to hear.
But I also realize that most kids don't listen to podcasts.
But if you find value in this, share it with them.
Play it in the car.
Listen a second time.
That's how you're going to pick up on those tips and strategies to help you and yourathlete get what they want most.
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Ice time.
I mean, that's what you're paying for, right?
You want your kid to be on the ice.
You want them to learn how to gain the trust, the respect, how to put in the work, how tobe accountable.
And that's what we're talking about today.
So the right hook of reality is
trust is earned.
It's solidified in games.
Yes, but it's earned in practice.
It's earned behind the scenes.
And when I say, would you play your athlete?
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Well, you see them in practice.
Are they skating all the way the line or are they looking for the coach to turn his backand then they're kind of dogging it?
They're not giving it all they've got.
Are they blending in with the crowd or are they standing out?
And I'm telling you, in today's society, unfortunately, it is easier than ever to earnthat respect, earn that trust and earn that ice time, earn those leadership roles.
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by simply doing the things that others aren't willing to do.
You gotta stand out from the crowd.
Now, is it tough?
Yeah.
I mean, what's easy to do is also easy not to do.
And unfortunately, that's why most athletes, they choose not to do it.
They wanna blend in.
Now, yeah, I want them to make friends and have buddies and this and that.
That's what sports are all about.
But at the same time, if you wanna see them in those key game situations, they've got toearn the coach's trust.
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Flat out, pan down.
As a coach myself,
Yeah, there's a lot of players that work hard, which is a big, huge thing.
You've got to have the work ethic.
You got to have the mindset.
You got to have the attitude.
But then kind of that final piece, I got to be able to trust you in those key gamesituations that you're going to play position.
You're going to play the system.
You're going to do what we ask you to do.
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You're not going to be roaming all over the ice.
You're going to be playing.
You're going to be back checking.
You're going to win in all three zones, not just trying to score goals.
You're going to battle the neutral zone.
You're going to battle in the defensive zone.
That's how you gain trust.
I know when I put that player out there, man, I trust him.
Does that mean they're going to be flawless and not fail, not make mistakes?
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No.
I mean, we're all human.
We all make mistakes.
I encourage players to play aggressively.
Get out there and give it all you got.
And that attitude I talk about all the time, and you've heard me talk about this before,that attitude of excellence is I'm going to strive with everything I've got in order to be
the absolute very best version of myself on each and every shift.
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I tell the players and it's almost like a broken record because I say it all the time.
When you go out there, your mindset is I am winning this shift.
I am winning every puck battle.
And when I get off this ice after this shift is over, my 45 seconds or a minute max.
And that's another thing players are often on the ice way, way, way too long.
I mean, the NHL, the average shift is 40 to 45 seconds.
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And I know your athlete is incredible shape, but I don't know if there's in good shape asthe NHL players.
And if they can only be out there up and down the ice for 40 to 45 seconds maximum.
Now, of course they get caught out there a little longer sometimes if it's difficult tomake a change or an icing or something like that, but that's the average shift.
So I'm telling them when they're out there too long, what happens is you get tired.
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So therefore you don't have the strength or your endurance to maybe win a puck battle inthe corner or tie a guy up in front of the net.
Cause you're on the ice too dang long.
And that's what a lot of times.
games are decided on, boom, snap decisions.
That's why get out there, give it all you got, get off the ice, and then reflect on yourshift.
And if the coach, if you did something wrong, or even if you did something right, and thecoach is talking to you, here's a sign of respect and how you gain the coach's respect.
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Tell your athlete to look the coach in the eye.
Don't have the head down.
Don't bob in your head.
Yeah, I know.
And by all means, do not roll your eyes.
I just had a talk with a parent recently at the rink, and
parents said, man, he told me I'm about to strangle my kid.
Well, obviously don't strangle your kid, but I get it.
Being a parent, being a coach, your kids drive you nuts.
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But the coach told the parent, look, I'm almost done with your son.
I hate to say that, but every time I go to talk to him, he's rolling his eyes.
He's throwing his arms up in the air.
That is the biggest form of disrespect there is.
Because it's telling the coach, look,
I know you've been coaching for 40 or 50 years, longer than my dad's even been alive, butI know more than you because I'm 12 years old.
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Yeah, mean, you want to find a place on the bench, roll your eyes.
And that's exactly where you belong.
As a matter of fact, I just posted something today on my social media channel.
So if you're not following Real Rich Grogan across all social media, and then of course,we got a Warrior Confidence Hockey Earn More Ice Time group and page.
Now the group is a kind of a private group there.
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So jump on that thing, always sharing all kinds of content.
But what I posted today was a picture of Michael Jordan when he was in college.
And the coach is talking to him and he's making eye contact with his coach.
And the caption says, look, if the greatest athlete in the world can make eye contact, notroll his eyes and not strung his shoulders when the coach is talking to him, then so can
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you.
Wow.
That's wham.
There's another right hook of reality.
So back to the initial question.
Would you give your son
your daughter the ice time that they want in key game situations.
Can you trust them?
Well, here's your warrior confidence tip.
How do you earn that trust?
Well, I kind of already shared it with you, didn't I?
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Doing the little things that others aren't willing to do.
Now, you you've heard me talk about this countless times.
I'm not a very big person at all.
Matter of fact, most of the teams I played on, I was either the smallest or one of thesmallest shortest players on every team.
And I remember a coach telling me once, look,
you're going to have to step it up because you're probably not going to be the biggestguy.
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And if you want to get noticed, because unfortunately, you're probably going to beoverlooked, which I was forever.
I mean, I'd stand out there and everybody's taller than I am.
know, lot of players had more talent, more skill, more natural ability than I had.
But kind of said, you want to step up, do these things.
Now, this was back in the 70s and 80s.
Well, it's kind of a motto I lived my whole life.
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And I grew up poor on a farm, so I had a lot of work ethic from the farm chores.
And essentially, had a lot along the years, a lot of great coaches, a lot of okay coaches,a lot of not so okay coaches.
And I talked to parents literally every single day.
And you're going to go through that.
The longer you're in sports, the longer you're in hockey, you're going to run across thefull range of coaches, the good, the bad and the ugly.
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Unfortunately, that's just the reality of things.
But I tell them, just like, you know, in school, you may have good teachers, bad teachers,and some teachers are like, man, this is the worst.
That's life, right?
When, you know, your job, you got people you get along with, people that are great, peoplethat dog it, people that drive you nuts.
That's just reality life.
And that's the beauty about sports, especially hockey, it teaches you those things.
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So if you have a quote, quote, bad coach right now, tell your athlete to still berespectful.
Don't you dare roll your eyes.
Do everything you can to work hard, to gain that respect, to gain that trust, to gain thatice time and leadership roles.
And if this particular coach this year kind of
maybe doesn't see your child's talent or athletic ability or you know, back in my day,unfortunately, we had the old thing where a lot of times dads were the coaches and there's
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nothing wrong with that.
If the dad has integrity, meaning they're going to play the best players that give themthe best chance to win, not just play their kiddo because they're the coach.
I've been through that as well as a kid myself, as a parent, as a coach, and I've seen it.
But if you have one of those coaches,
Tell your athlete to keep putting in the work because I'm telling you, sooner than later,the scales tip the other way.
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And if your athlete conditions himself to work hard at everything they do, not only arethey developing a great mindset, I call it a champion's mindset, an attitude of
excellence, a work ethic of an underdog, heart of a warrior, all those things are going tocarry over off the ice.
So what you're learning by putting in your absolute very, very best, by gaining the trustand respect on the ice,
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even if the coach right now may not see it, there will be a coach that does.
And then in the future, there's going to be a job, a boss, a manager that sees it.
And your kiddos learning these skills now, they're going to continue.
And what I'm trying to teach here with the Warrior Confidence Hockey brand is I want tobuild the absolute very best athletes, yes, hockey players, yes, but human beings that
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lead with integrity on and off the ice, that stand out from the crowd by doing the thingsthat others simply aren't willing to do.
Is it easy?
No, nothing in life is easy.
Now, if you're a parent that's like, well, it just ain't fair.
It just ain't this and that.
Here, get over that, OK?
Life isn't fair.
I get it.
But I'm giving you the tools to share with your kiddo there in order to help them get whatthey want.
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Ice time now, leadership roles next, and then whatever they decide to do in life, continueto carry those principles, and they're going to stand out from the crowd.
Now, can they do it?
Absolutely.
Are they going to do it?
Well,
That's a conversation you gotta have with them.
That's why I said I know most teenagers don't listen to podcasts.
But please, share the podcast or go to our YouTube channel.
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There's all kinds of short clips and videos and we'll break this podcast down into shortlittle clips as well.
So you can take bite-sized pieces, play it, a little refresher, a little reminder.
Now, to kind of elaborate on the Warrior Confidence Tip, some of the other things they cando, what are they doing when they're not at the rink?
Are they working out?
Are they exercising?
Are they stretching?
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Are they following a nutritional plan?
Or are they just eating garbage?
Are they just lying around not doing a thing?
Because unfortunately, there's only so much ice time available.
So it's got to be the things you're doing off the ice.
And I'm telling you, they play vital roles.
And once again, back to the initial question of this whole podcast, if you were the coach,knowing what you know, would you trust your player in those key game situations?
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And if the answer is an immediate yes, then we need to apply these things.
And even if it is an immediate yes, we can always get better.
Striving each and every day, 1%.
I did a video not too long ago talking about that.
If you apply yourself 1 % harder today than you did yesterday and 1 % harder tomorrow thanyou did today, man, all those 1 % add up.
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Before you know it, you're going to be in that 1 % because I keep beating a dead horsehere.
But the unfortunate reality is
Most people aren't willing to do it.
Why?
Because it's hard.
You know, that comfort zone's hard to break out of.
And then you got the mental bully in your mind.
I call it the meanest bully you ever face.
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Anytime you or your athlete goes to step out and do something a little bit different, youknow, there are going be people that poke at you.
I mean, I had that all the time.
It'd be, Richie, why are you trying to be somebody else?
You think you're too good for us?
You think you're better than us?
And I'm like, no, man, I just want some ice time.
With my small stature and limited talent and skills, I gotta do something that othersaren't willing to do.
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So, mean, putting yourself out there.
But here's the thing, you're always gonna have critics.
Tell your athlete that as well.
You're always gonna have the, let me rephrase this.
You'll never be criticized by someone who's doing better than you.
You're always criticized by people that don't want you to break away from the pack.
Why?
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Because if you're able to succeed,
You know, if I was able to succeed with limited skill, limited athletic ability, limitedheight, size, and strength at the time, if I'm able to succeed, then what's their excuse?
They had all the things that I didn't have.
Well, once again, I can choose to blend in with the crowd or I can stand out.
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Well, if you're listening to this show, you want something more for your kiddo.
You want something more for your athlete.
If you're a coach, you want something more for your team.
You want to stand out.
Now organizations,
and working more and more with organizations.
My whole goal, and coaches, if you're listening, share this with your organization, is allabout helping with that.
The biggest pain point for all organizations is parent drama over ice time.
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Well, here's the tools that you can use to tell the parents, hey, this is exactly what youneed to do, giving you the answer, the blueprint on what you need to do.
And I promise you, even if maybe, once again, if you got a coach that isn't the best rightnow, now USA Hockey's done an incredible job.
of man the modules we have to go through, the workbooks, the all day on a Saturday, likeeight hours of coaching education clinics.
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It's all about weeding out those that aren't willing to put in the work.
And parents, if you've got a bad coach, and you know you can do it better, gosh darn it,take those coaching classes, get in there.
You can always use good coaches.
But if that's not in the cards right now, and I understand sometimes it's not, focus onwhat you can do to be your very, best.
but most importantly, focus on what you can do to help your athlete earn what you bothwant.
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More ice time, more leadership roles.
Good?
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The link is in the description notes in the show notes of this podcast.
Good, good.
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So to kind of reiterate, what does your athlete need to do?
They need to show up with that attitude of excellence, mindset of a champion, heart of awarrior, work ethic of an underdog, each and every time they step on the ice.
Now think about this.
I want them to think every time I step on the ice, whether it be practice or in games thatI'm auditioning, it's a tryout.
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It's a tryout for more ice time.
So if they have that mindset, man, I am trying out every single time I step on the ice atpractice for more ice time.
through putting key games at game key situations to put on the penalty kill the powerplay.
I'm trying out it's an audition every single time and in games when they step on the iceman I'm auditioning so I can get another shift and then another shift because once again
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coaches play the players that they trust the most that they know they're gonna give allthey got and like I mentioned I tell them you step on that ice your mindset is I'm winning
every puck battle I am winning every shift.
Now, does that mean you're gonna win every puck battle and every shift?
No, doesn't mean that.
But your attitude dictates that I'm gonna give it all I've got.
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And if this guy beats me the first time, I lose this shift, I lose one or two puck battlesin the corners or in front of the net, or I miss my back check and the guy scores, I'm
learning from that.
And that is not happening again.
Then that's that attitude.
So when they go back out there, they're even more focused, more committed, moredetermined, more resilient, not to let it happen again.
And if it happens again, holy cow.
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that next shift, that third shift, they better be all in with everything they've got.
Three, four, five times more intensity, more grit, more resilience, more determination.
And if they lose the third time, well, they may not get another shift because they're justnot having the game.
They're off the game or whatever's going on.
But that's when they have to say, instead of hanging their head, throwing a fit, rollingtheir eyes, sit there, watch the game, develop your hockey IQ, and then the very next
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practice.
you better make up for it because somebody on that other team just handed it to you threeor four shifts in a row.
That means you're not working hard enough in practice and some will say, well, yeah,they're just better than I am.
Well, maybe they are.
I mean, there's always someone better.
There's always someone bigger.
There's always someone stronger.
There's always someone with more skill, more athletic ability and more talent.
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You can't change those things, but what you have control over and parents, this is whatyour kiddo needs to hear.
What your player needs to hear.
control of your attitude, control your effort.
Now back in our martial arts academy, I owned a martial arts academy for almost 30 years,been in martial arts 40 plus.
I never evaluated on athletic ability or talent because some kids are naturally gifted andothers aren't.
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I evaluated on attitude and effort.
If they brought their absolute, very best attitude, they were given absolutely everythingthey had, mentally, spiritually, and physically, then they were gonna progress and move
forward.
Now came a time they had to fulfill the requirements and the standards and theexpectations.
But you know, I had some kids that were so naturally athletic gifted, could literally jumpover our heads doing kicks.
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Other kids, maybe they couldn't do that.
But their attitude, if it was much better than a kid that had all the natural talent inthe world, didn't apply themselves, that was a kid that's going to advance.
And I don't how many times parents say, my kid's far more athletic than that other kid.
I said, you're right.
And they need to be performing far more than other kid.
Well, that's not fair.
I said, look,
I want each child, each player, each athlete to be their absolute very, best, to embracetheir unique God-given talents, to fulfill and embrace their full potential, to be who
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they were born to be.
That's why it's not fair.
It's not this and that.
Yeah, we got standards.
We got expectations.
But at the end of the day, it's all about trust.
Do I trust in the Martial Arts Academy that this kid knows how to defend themselvesproperly?
just because this kid is far more athletic or gifted, they don't know how to defendthemselves.
And they certainly aren't embracing their full potential.
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Well, as a coach, as a parent, and coaching now for goodness gracious, let's close it inon 40 years.
I started coaching, I had no idea what I was doing back in my early teens, but I wasvolunteering and assistant coach and picking up pucks, anything I could do.
And I coached baseball, football, and hockey.
Hockey obviously was my all time favorite, but just anything to be out there.
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Learning and growing and the knowledge and over the years I had my good and the bad andthe ugly and the coaching as I mentioned with teachers and even martial arts instructors
But I was always learning so that's the best thing I can pass on to you parents is incoaches listening always learning the W and my warrior confidence brand the W and warrior
stands for wisdom and the only way to gain wisdom is to be humble enough to realize asSocrates says all I know is I know nothing I'm willing to continuously learn continuously
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grow
And essentially warrior confidence is all about humble confidence.
Being a warrior spirit, having that warrior mindset, but also realizing, I'm still alive,I'm still learning, I'm still growing, but I'm gonna be confident in everything I learn
and deliver with confidence.
That's how you gain trust.
There you go.
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So, do you trust your athlete enough to give them nice time in key game situations?
Drop in the comments, yes or no.
And then if it's no, please.
Tell me what you're going to do to help them or talk to them, then come back and leave acomment.
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But anyway, as Zig would say, when you listen a second time or even a third time or read abook a second or third time, you're to be at a higher level of learning than you were the
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So you're going to pick up on things that maybe you missed before.
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It's like someone came in and rewrote the book from the last time you read it.
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Well, obviously that didn't happen, but that's how the mind works.
If you're constantly focused on learning and growing, you're going to continuously pick upnew material.
And that's why to this day, I'm continuously learning, growing, going to conferences,workshops, surrounding myself with others to help.
Once again, that W and warrior is all about being humble, humble enough to gain thewisdom.
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And we're always learning, we're always growing to be my
prayer every day is to be the best Christian I can be, be the best husband I can be, bethe best father I can be, be the best coach, mentor, speaker to help empower others to
believe in themselves, to develop that warrior confidence to be who they were born to be.
Good, good?
All right, so please ring that bell, drop a link in the comments.
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It's gonna help you out.
And if you're a coach with a team or organization, we got a great team.
It's called the Ultimate Team Leadership and Accountability System that I work with yourteam.
So ever play on your team, we'll get a workbook.
We'll go for four weeks.
Every single week, we'll be on a Zoom call and we'll talk about implement.
the strategies in the workbook and growing.
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And if that system of four weeks is too much, we got another one where I just do a kickoffcall and kind of turn you loose with a program.
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Let's be honest, if you were the coach, would you put your athlete
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Let's be honest.
If you were the coach, would you put your athlete on the ice in key game situations?
Late in the game, protecting your lead, or if you're down by a goal on the penalty kill,power play.
Do you trust your athlete enough to perform under that type of pressure?
And if that answer isn't a resounding yes right off the bat, then that's what we gottalook at.
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Because I'm telling you, coaches, that is what they look for.
They look for players they can trust, players they can put out there in key gamesituations.
late in the game, penalty kill, power play, those situations that require the utmosttrust.
And how do you earn that trust?
How do you gain that respect from the coach?
It's all done by what you do behind the scenes.
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It's what you do in practice.
Sure, trust is solidified in games, but it's earned in practice.
And that's exactly what we're going to be talking about today.
I'm going to give you the tools, the tips, the techniques, the strategies, and whatexactly, what your athlete needs to do and what you can help them with in order to earn
that trust in that ice time.
So hey, stick around.
If you find value in this, make sure you share it with someone else.
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Welcome champions.
I'm master coach Rich Grogan and this is the Warrior Confidence Hockey Podcast.
The go-to show for parents, coaches, and players on what you need to do to earn thatcoaches trust, to earn that ice time, to earn those leadership roles, to get out there in
key game situations.
And that's exactly what we're talking about today.
And I started off by asking parents, if you were the coach, would you trust your athletein key game situations?
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Once again, if that isn't a resounding right off the top, yes, I can trust them, thenthere's the problem.
And that's what we're gonna work on today.
So I want you to think about it.
And here's your wham, right hook of reality.
Nothing is given.
Respect, it's not given, it's earned.
Ice time, it's not given, it's earned.
Trust, it's not given, it's earned.
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And you know that.
Well, here's what I'm gonna help you with.
I'm gonna help give you the tools to help work with your player.
Now, I'm talking to you, parents and coaches.
But obviously I would love for your kiddos to hear this.
It's the message they need to hear.
But I also realize that most kids don't listen to podcasts.
But if you find value in this, share it with them.
Play it in the car.
Listen a second time.
That's how you're going to pick up on those tips and strategies to help you and yourathlete get what they want most.
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Ice time.
I mean, that's what you're paying for, right?
You want your kid to be on the ice.
You want them to learn how to gain the trust, the respect, how to put in the work, how tobe accountable.
And that's what we're talking about today.
So the right hook of reality is
trust is earned.
It's solidified in games.
Yes, but it's earned in practice.
It's earned behind the scenes.
And when I say, would you play your athlete?
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Well, you see them in practice.
Are they skating all the way the line or are they looking for the coach to turn his backand then they're kind of dogging it?
They're not giving it all they've got.
Are they blending in with the crowd or are they standing out?
And I'm telling you, in today's society, unfortunately, it is easier than ever to earnthat respect, earn that trust and earn that ice time, earn those leadership roles.
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by simply doing the things that others aren't willing to do.
You gotta stand out from the crowd.
Now, is it tough?
Yeah.
I mean, what's easy to do is also easy not to do.
And unfortunately, that's why most athletes, they choose not to do it.
They wanna blend in.
Now, yeah, I want them to make friends and have buddies and this and that.
That's what sports are all about.
But at the same time, if you wanna see them in those key game situations, they've got toearn the coach's trust.
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Flat out, pan down.
As a coach myself,
Yeah, there's a lot of players that work hard, which is a big, huge thing.
You've got to have the work ethic.
You got to have the mindset.
You got to have the attitude.
But then kind of that final piece, I got to be able to trust you in those key gamesituations that you're going to play position.
You're going to play the system.
You're going to do what we ask you to do.
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You're not going to be roaming all over the ice.
You're going to be playing.
You're going to be back checking.
You're going to win in all three zones, not just trying to score goals.
You're going to battle the neutral zone.
You're going to battle in the defensive zone.
That's how you gain trust.
I know when I put that player out there, man, I trust him.
Does that mean they're going to be flawless and not fail, not make mistakes?
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No.
I mean, we're all human.
We all make mistakes.
I encourage players to play aggressively.
Get out there and give it all you got.
And that attitude I talk about all the time, and you've heard me talk about this before,that attitude of excellence is I'm going to strive with everything I've got in order to be
the absolute very best version of myself on each and every shift.
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I tell the players and it's almost like a broken record because I say it all the time.
When you go out there, your mindset is I am winning this shift.
I am winning every puck battle.
And when I get off this ice after this shift is over, my 45 seconds or a minute max.
And that's another thing players are often on the ice way, way, way too long.
I mean, the NHL, the average shift is 40 to 45 seconds.
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And I know your athlete is incredible shape, but I don't know if there's in good shape asthe NHL players.
And if they can only be out there up and down the ice for 40 to 45 seconds maximum.
Now, of course they get caught out there a little longer sometimes if it's difficult tomake a change or an icing or something like that, but that's the average shift.
So I'm telling them when they're out there too long, what happens is you get tired.
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So therefore you don't have the strength or your endurance to maybe win a puck battle inthe corner or tie a guy up in front of the net.
Cause you're on the ice too dang long.
And that's what a lot of times.
games are decided on, boom, snap decisions.
That's why get out there, give it all you got, get off the ice, and then reflect on yourshift.
And if the coach, if you did something wrong, or even if you did something right, and thecoach is talking to you, here's a sign of respect and how you gain the coach's respect.
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Tell your athlete to look the coach in the eye.
Don't have the head down.
Don't bob in your head.
Yeah, I know.
And by all means, do not roll your eyes.
I just had a talk with a parent recently at the rink, and
parents said, man, he told me I'm about to strangle my kid.
Well, obviously don't strangle your kid, but I get it.
Being a parent, being a coach, your kids drive you nuts.
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But the coach told the parent, look, I'm almost done with your son.
I hate to say that, but every time I go to talk to him, he's rolling his eyes.
He's throwing his arms up in the air.
That is the biggest form of disrespect there is.
Because it's telling the coach, look,
I know you've been coaching for 40 or 50 years, longer than my dad's even been alive, butI know more than you because I'm 12 years old.
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Yeah, mean, you want to find a place on the bench, roll your eyes.
And that's exactly where you belong.
As a matter of fact, I just posted something today on my social media channel.
So if you're not following Real Rich Grogan across all social media, and then of course,we got a Warrior Confidence Hockey Earn More Ice Time group and page.
Now the group is a kind of a private group there.
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So jump on that thing, always sharing all kinds of content.
But what I posted today was a picture of Michael Jordan when he was in college.
And the coach is talking to him and he's making eye contact with his coach.
And the caption says, look, if the greatest athlete in the world can make eye contact, notroll his eyes and not strung his shoulders when the coach is talking to him, then so can
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you.
Wow.
That's wham.
There's another right hook of reality.
So back to the initial question.
Would you give your son
your daughter the ice time that they want in key game situations.
Can you trust them?
Well, here's your warrior confidence tip.
How do you earn that trust?
Well, I kind of already shared it with you, didn't I?
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Doing the little things that others aren't willing to do.
Now, you you've heard me talk about this countless times.
I'm not a very big person at all.
Matter of fact, most of the teams I played on, I was either the smallest or one of thesmallest shortest players on every team.
And I remember a coach telling me once, look,
you're going to have to step it up because you're probably not going to be the biggestguy.
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And if you want to get noticed, because unfortunately, you're probably going to beoverlooked, which I was forever.
I mean, I'd stand out there and everybody's taller than I am.
know, lot of players had more talent, more skill, more natural ability than I had.
But kind of said, you want to step up, do these things.
Now, this was back in the 70s and 80s.
Well, it's kind of a motto I lived my whole life.
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And I grew up poor on a farm, so I had a lot of work ethic from the farm chores.
And essentially, had a lot along the years, a lot of great coaches, a lot of okay coaches,a lot of not so okay coaches.
And I talked to parents literally every single day.
And you're going to go through that.
The longer you're in sports, the longer you're in hockey, you're going to run across thefull range of coaches, the good, the bad and the ugly.
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Unfortunately, that's just the reality of things.
But I tell them, just like, you know, in school, you may have good teachers, bad teachers,and some teachers are like, man, this is the worst.
That's life, right?
When, you know, your job, you got people you get along with, people that are great, peoplethat dog it, people that drive you nuts.
That's just reality life.
And that's the beauty about sports, especially hockey, it teaches you those things.
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So if you have a quote, quote, bad coach right now, tell your athlete to still berespectful.
Don't you dare roll your eyes.
Do everything you can to work hard, to gain that respect, to gain that trust, to gain thatice time and leadership roles.
And if this particular coach this year kind of
maybe doesn't see your child's talent or athletic ability or you know, back in my day,unfortunately, we had the old thing where a lot of times dads were the coaches and there's
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nothing wrong with that.
If the dad has integrity, meaning they're going to play the best players that give themthe best chance to win, not just play their kiddo because they're the coach.
I've been through that as well as a kid myself, as a parent, as a coach, and I've seen it.
But if you have one of those coaches,
Tell your athlete to keep putting in the work because I'm telling you, sooner than later,the scales tip the other way.
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And if your athlete conditions himself to work hard at everything they do, not only arethey developing a great mindset, I call it a champion's mindset, an attitude of
excellence, a work ethic of an underdog, heart of a warrior, all those things are going tocarry over off the ice.
So what you're learning by putting in your absolute very, very best, by gaining the trustand respect on the ice,
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even if the coach right now may not see it, there will be a coach that does.
And then in the future, there's going to be a job, a boss, a manager that sees it.
And your kiddos learning these skills now, they're going to continue.
And what I'm trying to teach here with the Warrior Confidence Hockey brand is I want tobuild the absolute very best athletes, yes, hockey players, yes, but human beings that
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lead with integrity on and off the ice, that stand out from the crowd by doing the thingsthat others simply aren't willing to do.
Is it easy?
No, nothing in life is easy.
Now, if you're a parent that's like, well, it just ain't fair.
It just ain't this and that.
Here, get over that, OK?
Life isn't fair.
I get it.
But I'm giving you the tools to share with your kiddo there in order to help them get whatthey want.
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Ice time now, leadership roles next, and then whatever they decide to do in life, continueto carry those principles, and they're going to stand out from the crowd.
Now, can they do it?
Absolutely.
Are they going to do it?
Well,
That's a conversation you gotta have with them.
That's why I said I know most teenagers don't listen to podcasts.
But please, share the podcast or go to our YouTube channel.
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There's all kinds of short clips and videos and we'll break this podcast down into shortlittle clips as well.
So you can take bite-sized pieces, play it, a little refresher, a little reminder.
Now, to kind of elaborate on the Warrior Confidence Tip, some of the other things they cando, what are they doing when they're not at the rink?
Are they working out?
Are they exercising?
Are they stretching?
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Are they following a nutritional plan?
Or are they just eating garbage?
Are they just lying around not doing a thing?
Because unfortunately, there's only so much ice time available.
So it's got to be the things you're doing off the ice.
And I'm telling you, they play vital roles.
And once again, back to the initial question of this whole podcast, if you were the coach,knowing what you know, would you trust your player in those key game situations?
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And if the answer is an immediate yes, then we need to apply these things.
And even if it is an immediate yes, we can always get better.
Striving each and every day, 1%.
I did a video not too long ago talking about that.
If you apply yourself 1 % harder today than you did yesterday and 1 % harder tomorrow thanyou did today, man, all those 1 % add up.
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Before you know it, you're going to be in that 1 % because I keep beating a dead horsehere.
But the unfortunate reality is
Most people aren't willing to do it.
Why?
Because it's hard.
You know, that comfort zone's hard to break out of.
And then you got the mental bully in your mind.
I call it the meanest bully you ever face.
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Anytime you or your athlete goes to step out and do something a little bit different, youknow, there are going be people that poke at you.
I mean, I had that all the time.
It'd be, Richie, why are you trying to be somebody else?
You think you're too good for us?
You think you're better than us?
And I'm like, no, man, I just want some ice time.
With my small stature and limited talent and skills, I gotta do something that othersaren't willing to do.
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So, mean, putting yourself out there.
But here's the thing, you're always gonna have critics.
Tell your athlete that as well.
You're always gonna have the, let me rephrase this.
You'll never be criticized by someone who's doing better than you.
You're always criticized by people that don't want you to break away from the pack.
Why?
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Because if you're able to succeed,
You know, if I was able to succeed with limited skill, limited athletic ability, limitedheight, size, and strength at the time, if I'm able to succeed, then what's their excuse?
They had all the things that I didn't have.
Well, once again, I can choose to blend in with the crowd or I can stand out.
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Well, if you're listening to this show, you want something more for your kiddo.
You want something more for your athlete.
If you're a coach, you want something more for your team.
You want to stand out.
Now organizations,
and working more and more with organizations.
My whole goal, and coaches, if you're listening, share this with your organization, is allabout helping with that.
The biggest pain point for all organizations is parent drama over ice time.
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Well, here's the tools that you can use to tell the parents, hey, this is exactly what youneed to do, giving you the answer, the blueprint on what you need to do.
And I promise you, even if maybe, once again, if you got a coach that isn't the best rightnow, now USA Hockey's done an incredible job.
of man the modules we have to go through, the workbooks, the all day on a Saturday, likeeight hours of coaching education clinics.
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It's all about weeding out those that aren't willing to put in the work.
And parents, if you've got a bad coach, and you know you can do it better, gosh darn it,take those coaching classes, get in there.
You can always use good coaches.
But if that's not in the cards right now, and I understand sometimes it's not, focus onwhat you can do to be your very, best.
but most importantly, focus on what you can do to help your athlete earn what you bothwant.
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More ice time, more leadership roles.
Good?
And if you're having trouble with that, listen, my new book, How to Get More Ice Time,it's Amazon New Release Best Seller.
Check it out, it's on Amazon.
The link is in the show notes, description box.
Pick this baby up here.
It's got everything you need in order for your kid to earn ice time.
And I've written it in a way that's nice and easy for kids to follow.
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I mean, really simple.
I mean, it's not a wall of words.
And along with that, I've got our programs.
And right now we got our masterclass video.
It's only nine bucks.
It's a 45 minute question and answer masterclass video where I go through and I talk aboutwork ethic, respect, discipline, communication skills, and what your kiddo needs to do in
order to earn that ice time to stand out from the crowd.
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The masterclass is only nine bucks.
And then if you want to pick up the quick start guidebook, I don't know, it's a fewdollars more, like 30 something dollars more.
And then the whole package, you put it all together, it's like, it's under a hundredbucks.
It's a six week workbook.
It's all kinds of worksheets, but it's everything your kiddo needs.
It's the ultimate hockey success leadership and accountability system.
Check that baby out.
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The link is in the description notes in the show notes of this podcast.
Good, good.
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So to kind of reiterate, what does your athlete need to do?
They need to show up with that attitude of excellence, mindset of a champion, heart of awarrior, work ethic of an underdog, each and every time they step on the ice.
Now think about this.
I want them to think every time I step on the ice, whether it be practice or in games thatI'm auditioning, it's a tryout.
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It's a tryout for more ice time.
So if they have that mindset, man, I am trying out every single time I step on the ice atpractice for more ice time.
through putting key games at game key situations to put on the penalty kill the powerplay.
I'm trying out it's an audition every single time and in games when they step on the iceman I'm auditioning so I can get another shift and then another shift because once again
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coaches play the players that they trust the most that they know they're gonna give allthey got and like I mentioned I tell them you step on that ice your mindset is I'm winning
every puck battle I am winning every shift.
Now, does that mean you're gonna win every puck battle and every shift?
No, doesn't mean that.
But your attitude dictates that I'm gonna give it all I've got.
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And if this guy beats me the first time, I lose this shift, I lose one or two puck battlesin the corners or in front of the net, or I miss my back check and the guy scores, I'm
learning from that.
And that is not happening again.
Then that's that attitude.
So when they go back out there, they're even more focused, more committed, moredetermined, more resilient, not to let it happen again.
And if it happens again, holy cow.
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that next shift, that third shift, they better be all in with everything they've got.
Three, four, five times more intensity, more grit, more resilience, more determination.
And if they lose the third time, well, they may not get another shift because they're justnot having the game.
They're off the game or whatever's going on.
But that's when they have to say, instead of hanging their head, throwing a fit, rollingtheir eyes, sit there, watch the game, develop your hockey IQ, and then the very next
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practice.
you better make up for it because somebody on that other team just handed it to you threeor four shifts in a row.
That means you're not working hard enough in practice and some will say, well, yeah,they're just better than I am.
Well, maybe they are.
I mean, there's always someone better.
There's always someone bigger.
There's always someone stronger.
There's always someone with more skill, more athletic ability and more talent.
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You can't change those things, but what you have control over and parents, this is whatyour kiddo needs to hear.
What your player needs to hear.
control of your attitude, control your effort.
Now back in our martial arts academy, I owned a martial arts academy for almost 30 years,been in martial arts 40 plus.
I never evaluated on athletic ability or talent because some kids are naturally gifted andothers aren't.
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I evaluated on attitude and effort.
If they brought their absolute, very best attitude, they were given absolutely everythingthey had, mentally, spiritually, and physically, then they were gonna progress and move
forward.
Now came a time they had to fulfill the requirements and the standards and theexpectations.
But you know, I had some kids that were so naturally athletic gifted, could literally jumpover our heads doing kicks.
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Other kids, maybe they couldn't do that.
But their attitude, if it was much better than a kid that had all the natural talent inthe world, didn't apply themselves, that was a kid that's going to advance.
And I don't how many times parents say, my kid's far more athletic than that other kid.
I said, you're right.
And they need to be performing far more than other kid.
Well, that's not fair.
I said, look,
I want each child, each player, each athlete to be their absolute very, best, to embracetheir unique God-given talents, to fulfill and embrace their full potential, to be who
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they were born to be.
That's why it's not fair.
It's not this and that.
Yeah, we got standards.
We got expectations.
But at the end of the day, it's all about trust.
Do I trust in the Martial Arts Academy that this kid knows how to defend themselvesproperly?
just because this kid is far more athletic or gifted, they don't know how to defendthemselves.
And they certainly aren't embracing their full potential.
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Well, as a coach, as a parent, and coaching now for goodness gracious, let's close it inon 40 years.
I started coaching, I had no idea what I was doing back in my early teens, but I wasvolunteering and assistant coach and picking up pucks, anything I could do.
And I coached baseball, football, and hockey.
Hockey obviously was my all time favorite, but just anything to be out there.
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Learning and growing and the knowledge and over the years I had my good and the bad andthe ugly and the coaching as I mentioned with teachers and even martial arts instructors
But I was always learning so that's the best thing I can pass on to you parents is incoaches listening always learning the W and my warrior confidence brand the W and warrior
stands for wisdom and the only way to gain wisdom is to be humble enough to realize asSocrates says all I know is I know nothing I'm willing to continuously learn continuously
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grow
And essentially warrior confidence is all about humble confidence.
Being a warrior spirit, having that warrior mindset, but also realizing, I'm still alive,I'm still learning, I'm still growing, but I'm gonna be confident in everything I learn
and deliver with confidence.
That's how you gain trust.
There you go.
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So, do you trust your athlete enough to give them nice time in key game situations?
Drop in the comments, yes or no.
And then if it's no, please.
Tell me what you're going to do to help them or talk to them, then come back and leave acomment.
Listen to this more than once.
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But anyway, as Zig would say, when you listen a second time or even a third time or read abook a second or third time, you're to be at a higher level of learning than you were the
first time.
So you're going to pick up on things that maybe you missed before.
That's why if you've ever read a book again a second time and you're like, man, I knowthis wasn't in here the first time I read this book.
It's like someone came in and rewrote the book from the last time you read it.
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Well, obviously that didn't happen, but that's how the mind works.
If you're constantly focused on learning and growing, you're going to continuously pick upnew material.
And that's why to this day, I'm continuously learning, growing, going to conferences,workshops, surrounding myself with others to help.
Once again, that W and warrior is all about being humble, humble enough to gain thewisdom.
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And we're always learning, we're always growing to be my
prayer every day is to be the best Christian I can be, be the best husband I can be, bethe best father I can be, be the best coach, mentor, speaker to help empower others to
believe in themselves, to develop that warrior confidence to be who they were born to be.
Good, good?
All right, so please ring that bell, drop a link in the comments.
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If you want to pick up a copy of my book, you can go to getmoreicetime.com.
That's a direct link to Amazon and our programs.
Just go to warriorconfidence.com.
Like I said, the masterclass is only nine bucks now.
It's normally 29 bucks.
We chop that down to only nine.
So grab it once at the $9 price point, and then do the order bundle and bump up and getthe whole package.
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It's gonna help you out.
And if you're a coach with a team or organization, we got a great team.
It's called the Ultimate Team Leadership and Accountability System that I work with yourteam.
So ever play on your team, we'll get a workbook.
We'll go for four weeks.
Every single week, we'll be on a Zoom call and we'll talk about implement.
the strategies in the workbook and growing.
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And if that system of four weeks is too much, we got another one where I just do a kickoffcall and kind of turn you loose with a program.
But check those out.
You can find all that information on our website, warriorconfidence.com.
All right.
Thank you so very much for tuning in today.
I know that time is the most valuable commodity on the planet.
And the fact that you spent time with me, I'm grateful.
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truly can't, I get goosebumps the time I talk about this because I truly am, because Iknow how busy everybody is.
But hopefully you picked up something.
Hopefully that warrior confidence tip was exactly what you needed and share this with yourkiddo.
Listen to it more than once in the car.
Watch on the YouTube station or channel.
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Please share that love.
Share your gift with the world.
And until we talk again, you get out there and do your best.
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God bless you, God bless your loved ones.
Can't wait to read your comments.
Can't wait to chat with you again real soon.
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Talk to you soon.
Bye bye.
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