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April 17, 2025 79 mins

Steve Magness (@stevemagness) is a world-renowned expert on performance. He is the author of the new book Win the Inside Game: How to Move from Surviving to Thriving, and Free Yourself Up to PerformHe is the author of the bestselling Do Hard Things, coauthor of Peak Performance. The Passion Paradox, and the author of The Science of Running. Collectively his books have sold more than three quarters of a million copies.

Magness has served as a performance coach to numerous professional sporting teams, executives, entrepreneurs, artists, and more. He's worked with Olympians, athletes from every professional sports league, and the U.S. military. His focus is on performance holistically; whether that's developing mental skills to show up when it counts, or solving organizational or team problems.

His writing has appeared in The Atlantic, Outside, Runner’s World, Forbes, Sports Illustrated, Men's Health, and a variety of other outlets. In addition, Steve's expertise on elite sport and performance has been featured in The New YorkerWall Street JournalThe New York TimesThe GuardianBusiness Insider, and ESPN The Magazine.

Today on the podcast Jerry, John and Steve discuss his new book, and how winning the "inside' game is so much more than winning the inner game. We discuss the role of clarity of self awareness, clarity of purpose, and the importance of not simply fitting in but true belonging. 

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