June 7, 2025 • 35 mins
In this brutally honest and hilariously relatable episode, Mike and Jack go 10 rounds comparing the two most talked-about CGMs for people with Type 1 diabetes — Dexcom One+ and Freestyle Libre 2.
Mike has officially ditched Libre and gone full Dexcom… but was the switch worth it? And is Jack about to follow?
We cover EVERYTHING:
- 🔥 Application & Warm-Up Times
- 🔔 Alarm Customisation & Snooze Features
- 📲 App Design, Time in Range & Graphs
- 💥 Sensor Accuracy, Reliability & Calibration
- 💷 UK NHS Funding vs Self-Funding
- 📡 Sharing, Connectivity & Mobile Compatibility
- 🗣️ Real Opinions from the T1D Community
- 🤣 Banter, rage boluses & sideways graphs
Whether you're newly diagnosed or deep in the T1D tech game, this episode breaks down the real-life pros and cons of both CGMs — with zero fluff and all the laughs.
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Live from somewhere between a low and a high on some
headphones near you is the fightno one asked for, but we're
doing it anyway. In the red corner, weighing in
at a featherweight 2.2 grand standing.
At a sleek. 3.8 millimetres tallwith alarm.
So polite. The come with a snooze button.
He's slick, he's modern and he'sconstantly reminding Jackie's
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behind the times. It's the Dexcom 1 Plus, and in
the blue corner weigh in a respectable 5G, standing proudly
of 5mm. He's shaped like a flying saucer
stuck to arms nationwide, and the only tech Jack trusts more
than his own instincts is the Libra 2. 10 rounds, no finger
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pricks, no mercy, just arrows and arms and aggressive CGM
comparisons. Libra 2 versus Dexcom.
One no more. More emotion.
More emotion. Come on, I want to hear it.
Libra 2 versus Dexcom 1 + 1 sends graphs and the other one
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sends Mike into a personality shift.
Yeah, and not only thing more unstable than our blood sugar,
our friendship. After this episode, let's go.
Welcome to the We Are T1D podcast.
The Realist Type 1 Diabetes podcast online hosted by myself
Mike diagnosed at the age of 10.And myself, Jack diagnosed at
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the age of 30. We are just two mates giving you
an insight into life with this chronic condition.
Yes, we are adults and although we try not to swear, it may
happen occasionally. Yeah, as Jack said, we are
adults, but please take what we say as guidance and not medical
advice. No, trust me, we are not
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doctors. We are just here to make sure no
Type 1 diabetic ever, ever feelsalone.
As you've heard correctly, this is a Dexcom 1 Plus versus Libra
2 episode. I am battling as the Dexcom One
Plus and Jack is battling as thething I left behind.
(02:14):
Yeah, because you haven't even announced it to our followers
yet. On our listeners, you've
switched and you've left us. Yeah.
So what we're going to do, wait,we've got 10 rounds lined up and
we're just going to put these two sensors toe to toe.
I'm going to represent 1. Jack is representing the other
so. Round one application pairing.
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And warm up time. I'll get better on the other
rounds, don't worry. Well, obviously everyone knows
that the Libra warm up time is an hour.
Right, so Jack disconnected justlike most Libra sensors do.
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We are listening to you, So what?
Was you saying about Libra's warm up check?
And no, it's not on the application.
But the application is. What do you want me to do?
Talk you through it? No.
No, to be honest though, like our listeners, they they want
right. So the Libra is 2 two things in
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it you have to. Yeah, you've got like the
sensors in one part and you've got to get the applicator and
plunge it into the sensor and that loads the sensor.
And yeah, well, imagine just getting it out-of-the-box and
putting it on your arm. No, no opening a yoghurt pot,
screwing it on. Literally just put it on, mate.
Yeah. Yeah, you're saving like 10 to 5
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seconds, if that. Like it's, yeah, it's a bit more
convenient, but it's not really like a major, major thing, is
it? It is because when you're
diabetic, right? Diabetes.
Things take up your life. Yeah, but doing just unscrewing
something and putting it on yourarm is no different.
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What? Unscrewing it, taking off a lid
and then plunging all. Right, but I could put on 2
sensors and what have them ready.
The amount of time it takes you to have one ready.
Yeah, you probably could. Oh, you just got KOD right
there. There's no KOE.
I'm still standing, bro. I'm standing more than Elton
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John. Yeah, you best get some more.
Let's go to Round 2. Round. 2.
It's alarms, Jack. Alarms, well my well the deliver
alarm is very custom. I think you can go as low as 3.3
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and I don't know how high you can go actually, I've never
tested it. Have you got?
No, I've always had mine set at like 10.
So. You know, I've got and I've got
me back up one set at like 16. OK, so on the Dexcom 1 Plus, the
highest you can set your alarm is 22.2.
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OK, let's have a look what you can do on a label.
And the lowest, the lowest you can set is 3.3.
And do you know what that is? One thing I'm jealous of is the
custom alarms because you know what I'm like?
I like to change it up, put something funny on it.
Yeah. But the built in default ones
are actually quite good. But the high alarm is actually
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22.2 as well. OK and low is 3 point.
Great. OK.
So they're the same in that aspect, just just some jabs
there. But I can change mine.
Yeah, so you can change your alarm, but I have a special
feature which I find fucking amazing.
Which is. Which is the snooze feature so.
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Snooze. Yeah, snooze.
We turn it off. No, you can just say it to be
asleep when you're actually high.
So, so basically you set the snooze feature so you can set a
custom timer on it. So say you've just eaten dinner
and you know you're going to geta bit of a spike from a dinner.
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So you can have your high alarm set or whatever, say 11 and say
you hit that 11, but then you'reout of it within say 30 minutes.
Your high alarm won't go off it it's like, so it's like it's
waiting for your insulin to work.
But on the Libra, soon as you hit that high boom, your alarm
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goes off. And that used to cause me to
rage bolus the hell of a lot. Yeah, you do love a rage bolus,
don't you? I think you was officially the
king of the rage bonus. I was I was rage bolus king, but
now I can have that snooze feature.
I can also turn it off so it's it don't have to be on all the
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time, but if I know I'm going tohave a dinner that's going to
spike me, then it's perfect for me.
So I do love that aspect of it. Yeah, that's good.
That's I'll give you that one. I'll give you that one.
That's that's that's that's quite a good feature.
Because like you say, that will stop a lot of rage bolusing
because I'm guilty of it. Everyone's guilty of it.
As soon as you see that number with an arrow going up you're
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like oh fuck off. Yeah.
Literally, give me that. Give me that pen.
So in my head it really helps with the mental aspect of it.
Yeah, that's the right. Yeah.
Fair play. I like that.
Right, so. Round 3.
The app. The app.
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The app and how it feels. I like the Libra, it's easy.
No, see, I love Dexcom, right? Literally, I open it up.
And you're just like a kid with a new toy bra.
You love everything. No, it's just the arrows.
Cool. So I'm not like bombarded but
colours so it keeps me at rest. Yeah, right.
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But if I'm low it. What's that?
Don't go like red. It's like I'm in range.
It's just grey. That's it.
Yeah, OK. But if I am low it does go red.
It does when the warning's due. Then it will alert you with
colour on the home screen. I've also got my time in range
and also I don't have to look ata seven day fucking timing
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range, which annoys me with the Libra because say you, you was
bad a few days ago, right? I can now see that I'm being
better And with the graph, say I've had a good three hours.
OK, I can just view 3 hours, butsay I was bad five hours ago and
I was high or low and I don't want to see that on my graph.
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I can stay on the three hour 1 but say I've been good for so I
can change my time display between 3612 and 24 hours.
OK well on the libre app you canjust put a post it note on off
the screen. Just turn, not turn on your
screen. So fucking shit day.
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I want to. Know see, I've never had any
problems with the app. I think that's like an
individual sort of thing becauseI get this sort of mental side.
The colours that's that's like pretty good.
That's quite a good point for some people I suppose.
Like people will associate certain colours with certain
things. Yellow is sunshine.
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Oh wee wee, wee. Wee Yeah, and also.
I don't. I don't mind not having a daily
timing range. So it's not daily.
It does 3 days if you go in. There's also an additional app
that you get with it called Clarity, Yeah, which you can set
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to be two days. OK.
And then also on the page, so ifyou go into the Clarity app, so
this is additional obviously. You go.
There's a goal and it tells you how many times you hit your
timing range. So I know Monday I hit my timing
range, it shows me like that. And then today hasn't got enough
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data so it won't show me yet. So there's that as well.
So you've got little goals to make.
So I said my goal was 70% because that's where I like to
be between 70 and 80. See, that's, that's to me, I, I
get that. I like that, that you can set
goals, but then I don't know, some people might try and set
sort of like unrealistic goals because they're over optimistic.
(10:35):
And then because they're not hitting them goals, it's more of
a mental hit. Yeah, don't be stupid and set
your goal too high. It's pretty simple.
Well, yeah, yeah, I get like, I get that.
But as I say, I think that's, it's just more that's that's a
bit more in my head. In my opinion, personally that
would be more stress for me because I'd feel like I'm having
to hit them all the time. Yeah, I hear that.
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It's like a challenge, like I'vegot to do that.
And then when you don't, you're going to be disappointed, you
know what I mean? But you could set your goal at
50 and be happy every day or whatever.
Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I get that. I get that.
You could go, yeah, 50%, I'm halfway there.
Yeah, I'll get that. So yeah, that I, I love the Owen
Jack. I can turn my phone sideways.
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It makes my graph like that. Oh, you and your landscape view.
That's all you've been going on about.
Yeah, exactly. Because that's what I just like
stuff like that. I mean, with diabetes, you're
always looking at your phone. Yeah, And this has the shit I
wanted. Yeah, true.
Yeah, you are a very tech geek as well.
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You love all that stuff. See me?
I don't really care. It's a break.
Bad. Point honestly, a lot it's it's
something is keeping me alive like there's going to be pros
and cons with everything don't matter whether you're with one
or with the other there's going to be bad stuff, there's going
to be good things I don't need the fucking headache I'm cool
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with whatever I. Want let's have a sip of water.
We're going to the next round. So round. 4.
Sense of reliability and calibration.
I'm OK. So what before this podcast,
Jack, what did you show me your blood reading was and what was
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your CTM reading? My Libra was 3.4 and my blood
glucose monitor was 4.9. So that's not quite a lot.
Not really 1.5. It was because because when
you're below 4, you're low and. Yeah, yeah.
Because yeah, I'm considering. I had literally just that second
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before I had finger pricked not just that, but probably about
two or three minutes ate a bag of Harry boats.
So therefore my blood sugar is spiking quicker than the sensor
can keep up. Well every time I've finger
pricked and tests with my Dexcomit's born.
I'll eat a bag of Harry boats bobbing and test 5 minutes
after. I've got Reese's Pieces.
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What'd that do? Well mate, do it next time
you're having a hypo or something, not when you you're
just level. I'll do it.
I'll do it when I'm level like when I wake up or when I like
just during the day at a random one just to have a look and it's
and it is always pretty much spot on.
You know, when I went to the Libra Plus, yeah, it was
actually so much better at reading to defend it a little
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bit. I'm not saying Libra is totally
shit. It's not look at you're just so
biased now I told you I've switched over.
It's. Supposed to be a battle mate.
Yeah, I could. That's cool, bruv.
That's cool. And this calibration waffle,
bruv. Yeah.
Explain to me how that works. How can you change something?
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And then that's that's right. That's like me fucking.
That's like the clock. Your your clock.
Now it's 6:00. But now I'm like, now fuck it,
it's 7, so I'll change it. So what does that mean?
Now miraculously, it's 7:00. Yeah, of course you don't.
So how can you change it? Will.
Continue in that trend, won't it?
Yeah. See, I just thought I don't get,
there must just be something in my brain.
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I don't, I don't, I honestly really do not get how something
is reading something in your arm.
So that data that is on the screen is whatever that sensor
is reading. It's like a new tire on the car.
Let me finish. Fuck's sake.
Go on, you are now that app. All the data on that screen is
now what the sensor is reading from whatever sort of fucking
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chip or whatever is inside it. Yeah.
So say that chip is slightly wrong.
Yeah. Which does happen and has
happened when I use Libra. Yeah.
All right, so it's like getting your tires changed on your car.
You get new tires whacked on, say, the tracking's out.
Yeah, realign them wheels or calibrate them.
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Guess what? You can move in a fucking
straight line mate. Yeah, guess what then?
Wheels ain't reading data. No, they're.
Reading No, it's a wheel. Broth.
It's a wheel. Open your mind.
It's. No, it's not open in my mind,
broth not open in my mind. I don't understand it.
I want, I want someone Technologia.
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I want someone technical to comeon here and tell me exactly how
that works because I am I being thick or honestly I don't under.
Are you not your head, brother? I swear this will turn into a
fire. How?
I don't understand how somethingis reading data from your arm.
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You are now manually entering different data.
That's false data because that'snot what that is reading.
That is now what you have entered SO.
I don't. Understand how that works.
Just leave it alone and let it fucking crack on brother.
Or change the center and stop whingeing.
Or fix what's broken. Yeah, change it.
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That's why I went to Dexcom. Change it takes, thanks for
often. Change it simple then bring them
up and say fucking don't work mate send me a new one fuck.
It right Jack needs a beer. No, I'm cool with my cup of tea,
bro. Don't you worry about me call
calm and collective over here, just like my labra.
I think you need to calibrate your emotions a little bit.
(16:25):
I think you need to fuck off with your calibration.
Should we? Should we sip some water?
Let's go back to our stools. I've got Pepsi Max.
I've got multiple drinks. Fucking never satisfied, Yeah.
Because I I just went to sippy tea and realized it was empty.
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I was so disappointed, but I didn't want to make a big thing.
Right, so, so right. Going back, ignore the
calibration. Com reliability Where's Where's
your finger prick? What do you mean?
Where's my finger prick? Oh, my blood to shoot.
You know, let's probably not do that because it won't be right.
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Oh, you wanted me to do a live test?
Yeah, but I was just saying my bloods are fucking rocketing,
bro, so let's, yeah, let's. Not always get angry.
You do not worry. That's emotion.
Not Harry. Both.
You don't want to see me when I'm yellow, bro.
I'm good when I'm green. You don't want to see me when
it's yellow. Right.
And also when I say like sensor reliability, it's like them
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fucking working when you put them on.
Obviously, you know, a few weeksago I said I had five senses
fail on me and all this. Yeah.
So that's another thing with reliability.
See, I've I've, I've had a few. I have had a few.
The only time really when my Libra starts fucking up and gets
errors and does all that shit iseither when I'm so active at
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work. It just literally cannot keep up
with what my bloods are doing because they're dropping and
going up so fast, which is understandable.
And if I knock it. OK.
Or I catch it on something. Do you know what I mean?
All the others that there's not really been any, but I'll say
there is a few, but there's not many that I can remember over
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the past how since I've been on the libraries that have just
failed because they failed. Yeah, see, I hit a bad wall of
it. That's why this ain't good.
Pretty much everyone that I've done is, I'd say probably about
60% of them that have failed, it's probably been my fault.
Yeah, I'm disarmed. Well, I've knocked them.
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Or you're just disarming them and whacking them off light
switches and catching them off sheets of temporary fencing
bushes. Oh yeah, the cat attacking them.
Yeah, I forgot about. That right, let's go round six.
We're going to go through a comfort and size, right.
I honestly didn't feel that the Libra too was uncomfortable.
(18:58):
I can honestly say that but sizewise the Dexcom one plus is
smaller. Yeah, it is.
You showed me the other day whenwe went out over the weekend and
yeah, and it is tiny. Yeah.
Again, that might, as I say, in my opinion, that might
personally to other people mightbe a big thing, but to me
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personally, that is really not abig thing for me.
I don't really care. And.
It could, it could, it could be the size of like, I have to wear
the fucking patch on my back brother.
If that's all that is available to keep me alive, then so be it.
That's what I've got to do in it.
No, you've got finger pricks toomate.
Yeah, Oh yeah, that is true. Tiny.
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And also I don't have to just wear it on my arm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is the one.
Do you remember? I think you remember last year
when I was, I was going to switch to the Dexcoms when I
last year. And that was the reason because
I kept catching them on my arm at work, in the bushes and on
fences. So they were suggested that I
was going to go onto the Dexcomsbecause I can put them on my
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fire, my belly, my back. Yeah, but now I have a fear.
I'm scared to put it anywhere else because I've been on the
Libra for so many years and I'm more like, I can't put it there.
That's alien. It's like just weird to me.
Yes, yeah. Again, that's like people that
have started on the Dexcom, it'sprobably like normal to the
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minute to change their sights sort of every, every time you
change your sensor. Yeah, just fright.
Fright in the air wherever it lands.
The only Yeah, just not on your elbow.
No, it's Libra only. But yeah, it's literally Libra
is what you can wear your Libra anywhere.
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So I've seen on socials and apparently you do get pretty
good readings elsewhere, but Libra themselves state that it
should only be worn on the backsof your arms.
Yeah, that is true, right, so. Round 7 Sharing.
And connectivity, right? So sharing wise, I just sent my
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Mrs. a link and she can see my bra.
That's it. It is exactly the same as a
Libra. Yeah, connecting it to my phone
is totally different. On the actual applicator I have
a little QR code that I can takea picture of or enter manually.
OK, one and that pairs that certain sensor with your device.
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So I don't have to tap my arm once with my fucking phone.
OK, I I think tapping is actually quite easier than
sitting here trying to fucking scan QR codes and she just put
it on your arm and go beep. There you go, job done, it reads
it. Fairpoint but since my phone had
an update right? I've got the Galaxy S24 plus, my
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scanning of my Libra sensor but stopped working.
I had to restart my phone just to scan my sensor.
It was really weird. OK, well that just sounds like
your phone's a piece of shit. Well, it shouldn't be, but it
might. There's anything to do with
Libra? No, it might not be.
It might just be something to dowith Samsung and their update,
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or Libra not rolling out the update quick enough to my phone
or whatever, I don't know. That's all technical Margo jumbo
jargon to me, bruv. You know, I'm like, said it
about 10 minutes. It's the car.
Don't give a shit about tech. Give me a tip of spray paint and
a blank wall. That's me bruv.
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Round 8. Cost and access.
Technically in the UK we don't have to pay for it.
No, but yeah, I still have to get that funding.
Yeah, true, true that. That also was when I was going
to get last year. That was one of the things that
was brought up. They will have to ask to see if
they will be funded for me before they actually transfer me
(22:57):
over. Yeah.
Do they get sent? Can you just go and pick them up
from the pharmacy or do they getsent on like through the post
like a subscription thing? Mine's pharmacy I think you can
do orders. I think that's more for the self
funded that gave direct from Dexcom.
OK. Or it might be just how my like
borough works. Yeah, yeah, true.
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Because I know I've seen people online like they, they get like
they like Dexcom delivery day and it's just the box full of
shit. I don't know, I'm actually going
to have to find out because obviously I haven't had my
proper order yet, so I will update everyone on that.
There we go, next round. So but yeah, if you sell
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funding, Libra is much cheaper. Round 9.
So me I done a few polls so I asked the Instagram check them
fuck all. I'm not going to say what this
game through my head. Right, so the Instagram
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community have answered, I said what do you prefer Libra versus
Dexcom? Dexcom are currently winning at
62%. Oh.
That's close bro. Yeah, that's what I mean.
It's not as mad as you think. And Libra are on 38% obviously.
So I told you, Rob, there's going to be pros and cons.
(24:28):
I guarantee it. You give it within the next six
months of this podcast, there's going to be times where you come
on here and you're going to be going.
It's fucking Dexcom and to. Be honest I.
Guarantee it. That is between 48 votes for
Dexcom and 41 votes for Libra. So, and I only put up the story
(24:51):
not long ago, so sorry guys, butthat is good to know.
And then I put it in our community chat.
I don't think Libra's got one vote.
Jack didn't even fucking vote for Libra.
I didn't even know you put something in there mate, to be
honest. Jack is very active in our
community. I am sometimes, depends what I'm
doing. I'm always driving at work
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brother. I can't be on my phone.
Come on, safety. First, let me get the power up.
So in the community, yeah, 100% Dexcom.
Because I think nearly every single person in the community
is on Dexcom, so it's going to be 100% in it.
Right, right. So right.
Round. 10. Community Comments.
So I asked people to I want you to respond to these lives.
(25:37):
See what you think, Jacob. See.
Because you don't. Yeah, go on, because I actually
haven't read them. Right, so someone goes found
Libra lost signal a lot. That's why they're choosing
Dexcom. Dare lose your signal.
So did. So did you in and there for a
second there well. Yeah, exactly.
(25:58):
That's like things lose signal like it's like I said, it's it's
Technologia, this is going to gowrong.
Right. And then someone else said works
with my insulin pump for hybrid closed loop.
Yeah, see, that's a valid point.So that that's a very fairpoint
they can be on the pump because.Yeah, 100%.
And I think that's why the majority of people gone on to
(26:18):
Dexcom originally. Someone else goes.
Started on Libra, didn't mind ituntil I moved on to Dexcom, then
realized how shit Libra was. The end.
Fair play, Fairpoint. Right, another one Dexcom app
(26:39):
looks so messy. I trialled the Dexcom the other
month. OK, so they get confused by new
stuff like you Jack. Yeah, see, I don't like change.
I know what I'm doing. It's like it's routine.
I don't like different routines.It froze me.
Up someone else. I've never used the Libra.
My doctors prescribed Dexcom. OK, that's actually quite
(27:00):
interesting because but they arenot from the UK.
There you go. Yeah, then someone goes.
I voted Libra, but only because I haven't tried Dexcom yet.
I am however about to switch. Everyone's switching.
I have to honestly, like I keep saying like it's to me, I'm I
(27:24):
made a big thing and it drove meinsane at the start of when I
first got diagnosed in the startof this podcast of relying on
that so, so much. And it used to make me mad and
drive me crazy all day because I'd be staring at it.
Yeah. So now I don't really care about
it that much as long as I've gota number and something to go
(27:45):
off. And I know now in my body,
because I've had it for a coupleof years, generally just in
myself, how I feel. I try not to rely on things like
that because it's technology. It can and it will go wrong at
some point. And when that does happen, if
you rely on it so much, you're going to go fucking mental
because you do not know what to do.
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That's true. So I try not to just make that a
big thing. So until it starts really
affecting my life and if it getsreally, really terrible and
starts doing mad shit, then yeah, I probably will switch and
try something else. But until that point, I don't
really care. As long as I'm healthy and I'm
happy, fuck it. Happy day, Sir.
So someone else goes readings onmy watch, right guys?
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I had a Libra. I got readings on my watch.
I've got Dexcom now. I've got readings on my watch,
they work on both. Yeah.
You just need to know how to getit.
If you're a Android user get G watch wear.
That's what I use. Or you can use the guru app but
someone else goes. Libra nearly killed me with an
inaccuracy in 2021. Oh wow.
(28:56):
OK. That's not good.
No. So you're on Dexcom now, then?
I'll probably take it, yeah. Someone goes I vote Libra.
Just prefer the way that app is set out.
More basic than Dexcom. Nice and simple.
Yeah, literally. Nice and simple.
It does exactly what it says on the tin most of the time.
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I like the most of the time someone goes.
Libra was my first love, but Dexcom's my soul mate.
Oh my God. Wow.
That's and then some of those. Dexcom gave me anxiety with all
the alarms. I went back to Libra and my
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brain was quiet again. So can you set like 2?
Alarms not on the desk com one plus app when I had the G7.
Do you remember? I tried that for a while.
Yeah. I could set an alarm, 2 alarms
or a low or a high. So can you not do like what I do
and follow yourself and? I haven't followed myself, but
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yes you can set custom alarms for like the person you're
sharing with. OK, yeah.
So like Amber can have Yeah, so the your missus can have her own
alarm. Yeah, which is usually the 3.31
just in case I'm going into a coma.
Yes, question wise. Yeah.
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But yeah, I'd say in that aspectof it, they're very similar.
So guys, that is the kind of debate done.
So what? What's the overall then?
So personally for me I love the Dexcom one plus I didn't like
the G7. So I'm going to say this now.
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I had the Dexcom G7 at 7 and didn't like it too much.
OK. But compared to the Libra 2, the
Dexcom one, well, compared to the Libra 2 Plus, the Dexcom One
Plus smashes it out the water for me.
And it's the app. The app has sold it to me.
Yeah, little tech geek. Yeah, and how?
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And I'll just find it more reliable.
Yeah, that's good. I'm glad you're happy mate.
Yeah, so am I. How about you?
You're. Might might actually have some
happy content from you instead of coming on there whinging
about your sensor every week. Have.
I been doing that. Grumpy Mike.
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Mike Rants ain't been out in a while, so.
And like I said, I guaranteed everyone very soon.
Give it, give it time. We'll see.
We'll see guys put in the comments.
When do you think I'll fall out of love with Dexcom?
Yeah. And yeah, people let let me know
that is there still cons to the Dexcom or is it as perfect as
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everyone saying it? That's a fair question.
I at the moment I can't find a fault in it so.
Fair play. But then I have multiple years
experience with a Libra so I canwrite a book about it.
Yeah, true, true. Like you say, it's all you're
learning again and you're like anew learning experience again.
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Yeah, because obviously the reason, the main reason for
switching was the multiple failures with Libra.
And also I've changed my insulinso and I've realized change
isn't always bad change, change can be good.
So it's kind of me adjusting my own emotions to kind of like
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accept things that change can happen, change can be good, and
all this because obviously I'm adeep person.
You are. Yeah.
So, yeah, yeah. Well, like I say, I'm glad
you're happy mate and I I hope it goes well for you.
I'm sure you will keep us updated.
Yes, time and range one for an episode.
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I personally don't think the battle will never, ever, never
last. Libra versus Dexcom.
There's always going to be, likeI say, there's always going to
be people on this side. There's always going to be
people on that side. Yeah, it's literally going to be
Team Jack and Team Mike now, isn't it?
Yeah. I'm the fierce Dexcom wanker and
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he's missed the old school, no very rapid Libra.
Hey, old Lester, the old. All right, I'm younger than you.
Yes, you are I've. Only got covered in pen.
You child. Fucking hands bro.
Yeah, so for next episode guys, me and Jack are going to talk
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about We met up. We did.
We went painting together. We did.
We also went to a food market. We did.
Mike got a little treat on the back of his dead.
Oh yeah, I think a treat. But that will all get revealed
in the next episode. OK, yeah.
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So thank you for listening this week, everybody.
We will be back again. Same time, same place.
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Thanks for listening everyone. Bye everyone.
Live from somewhere between a low and a high on some
headphones near you is the fightno one asked for, but we're
doing it anyway. In the red corner, weighing in
at a featherweight 2.2 grand standing.
At a sleek. 3.8 millimetres tallwith alarm.
So polite. The come with a snooze button.
He's slick, he's modern and he'sconstantly reminding Jackie's
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behind the times. It's the Dexcom 1 Plus, and in
the blue corner weigh in a respectable 5G, standing proudly
of 5mm. He's shaped like a flying saucer
stuck to arms nationwide, and the only tech Jack trusts more
than his own instincts is the Libra 2. 10 rounds, no finger
(00:46):
pricks, no mercy, just arrows and arms and aggressive CGM
comparisons. Libra 2 versus Dexcom.
One no more. More emotion.
More emotion. Come on, I want to hear it.
Libra 2 versus Dexcom 1 + 1 sends graphs and the other one
(01:10):
sends Mike into a personality shift.
Yeah, and not only thing more unstable than our blood sugar,
our friendship. After this episode, let's go.
Welcome to the We Are T1D podcast.
The Realist Type 1 Diabetes podcast online hosted by myself
Mike diagnosed at the age of 10.And myself, Jack diagnosed at
(01:32):
the age of 30. We are just two mates giving you
an insight into life with this chronic condition.
Yes, we are adults and although we try not to swear, it may
happen occasionally. Yeah, as Jack said, we are
adults, but please take what we say as guidance and not medical
advice. No, trust me, we are not
(01:52):
doctors. We are just here to make sure no
Type 1 diabetic ever, ever feelsalone.
As you've heard correctly, this is a Dexcom 1 Plus versus Libra
2 episode. I am battling as the Dexcom One
Plus and Jack is battling as thething I left behind.
(02:14):
Yeah, because you haven't even announced it to our followers
yet. On our listeners, you've
switched and you've left us. Yeah.
So what we're going to do, wait,we've got 10 rounds lined up and
we're just going to put these two sensors toe to toe.
I'm going to represent 1. Jack is representing the other
so. Round one application pairing.
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And warm up time. I'll get better on the other
rounds, don't worry. Well, obviously everyone knows
that the Libra warm up time is an hour.
Right, so Jack disconnected justlike most Libra sensors do.
(02:59):
We are listening to you, So what?
Was you saying about Libra's warm up check?
And no, it's not on the application.
But the application is. What do you want me to do?
Talk you through it? No.
No, to be honest though, like our listeners, they they want
right. So the Libra is 2 two things in
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it you have to. Yeah, you've got like the
sensors in one part and you've got to get the applicator and
plunge it into the sensor and that loads the sensor.
And yeah, well, imagine just getting it out-of-the-box and
putting it on your arm. No, no opening a yoghurt pot,
screwing it on. Literally just put it on, mate.
Yeah. Yeah, you're saving like 10 to 5
(03:44):
seconds, if that. Like it's, yeah, it's a bit more
convenient, but it's not really like a major, major thing, is
it? It is because when you're
diabetic, right? Diabetes.
Things take up your life. Yeah, but doing just unscrewing
something and putting it on yourarm is no different.
(04:05):
What? Unscrewing it, taking off a lid
and then plunging all. Right, but I could put on 2
sensors and what have them ready.
The amount of time it takes you to have one ready.
Yeah, you probably could. Oh, you just got KOD right
there. There's no KOE.
I'm still standing, bro. I'm standing more than Elton
(04:26):
John. Yeah, you best get some more.
Let's go to Round 2. Round. 2.
It's alarms, Jack. Alarms, well my well the deliver
alarm is very custom. I think you can go as low as 3.3
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and I don't know how high you can go actually, I've never
tested it. Have you got?
No, I've always had mine set at like 10.
So. You know, I've got and I've got
me back up one set at like 16. OK, so on the Dexcom 1 Plus, the
highest you can set your alarm is 22.2.
(05:07):
OK, let's have a look what you can do on a label.
And the lowest, the lowest you can set is 3.3.
And do you know what that is? One thing I'm jealous of is the
custom alarms because you know what I'm like?
I like to change it up, put something funny on it.
Yeah. But the built in default ones
are actually quite good. But the high alarm is actually
(05:28):
22.2 as well. OK and low is 3 point.
Great. OK.
So they're the same in that aspect, just just some jabs
there. But I can change mine.
Yeah, so you can change your alarm, but I have a special
feature which I find fucking amazing.
Which is. Which is the snooze feature so.
(05:50):
Snooze. Yeah, snooze.
We turn it off. No, you can just say it to be
asleep when you're actually high.
So, so basically you set the snooze feature so you can set a
custom timer on it. So say you've just eaten dinner
and you know you're going to geta bit of a spike from a dinner.
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So you can have your high alarm set or whatever, say 11 and say
you hit that 11, but then you'reout of it within say 30 minutes.
Your high alarm won't go off it it's like, so it's like it's
waiting for your insulin to work.
But on the Libra, soon as you hit that high boom, your alarm
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goes off. And that used to cause me to
rage bolus the hell of a lot. Yeah, you do love a rage bolus,
don't you? I think you was officially the
king of the rage bonus. I was I was rage bolus king, but
now I can have that snooze feature.
I can also turn it off so it's it don't have to be on all the
(06:56):
time, but if I know I'm going tohave a dinner that's going to
spike me, then it's perfect for me.
So I do love that aspect of it. Yeah, that's good.
That's I'll give you that one. I'll give you that one.
That's that's that's that's quite a good feature.
Because like you say, that will stop a lot of rage bolusing
because I'm guilty of it. Everyone's guilty of it.
As soon as you see that number with an arrow going up you're
(07:17):
like oh fuck off. Yeah.
Literally, give me that. Give me that pen.
So in my head it really helps with the mental aspect of it.
Yeah, that's the right. Yeah.
Fair play. I like that.
Right, so. Round 3.
The app. The app.
(07:39):
The app and how it feels. I like the Libra, it's easy.
No, see, I love Dexcom, right? Literally, I open it up.
And you're just like a kid with a new toy bra.
You love everything. No, it's just the arrows.
Cool. So I'm not like bombarded but
colours so it keeps me at rest. Yeah, right.
(08:01):
But if I'm low it. What's that?
Don't go like red. It's like I'm in range.
It's just grey. That's it.
Yeah, OK. But if I am low it does go red.
It does when the warning's due. Then it will alert you with
colour on the home screen. I've also got my time in range
and also I don't have to look ata seven day fucking timing
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range, which annoys me with the Libra because say you, you was
bad a few days ago, right? I can now see that I'm being
better And with the graph, say I've had a good three hours.
OK, I can just view 3 hours, butsay I was bad five hours ago and
I was high or low and I don't want to see that on my graph.
(08:44):
I can stay on the three hour 1 but say I've been good for so I
can change my time display between 3612 and 24 hours.
OK well on the libre app you canjust put a post it note on off
the screen. Just turn, not turn on your
screen. So fucking shit day.
(09:04):
I want to. Know see, I've never had any
problems with the app. I think that's like an
individual sort of thing becauseI get this sort of mental side.
The colours that's that's like pretty good.
That's quite a good point for some people I suppose.
Like people will associate certain colours with certain
things. Yellow is sunshine.
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Oh wee wee, wee. Wee Yeah, and also.
I don't. I don't mind not having a daily
timing range. So it's not daily.
It does 3 days if you go in. There's also an additional app
that you get with it called Clarity, Yeah, which you can set
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to be two days. OK.
And then also on the page, so ifyou go into the Clarity app, so
this is additional obviously. You go.
There's a goal and it tells you how many times you hit your
timing range. So I know Monday I hit my timing
range, it shows me like that. And then today hasn't got enough
(10:12):
data so it won't show me yet. So there's that as well.
So you've got little goals to make.
So I said my goal was 70% because that's where I like to
be between 70 and 80. See, that's, that's to me, I, I
get that. I like that, that you can set
goals, but then I don't know, some people might try and set
sort of like unrealistic goals because they're over optimistic.
(10:35):
And then because they're not hitting them goals, it's more of
a mental hit. Yeah, don't be stupid and set
your goal too high. It's pretty simple.
Well, yeah, yeah, I get like, I get that.
But as I say, I think that's, it's just more that's that's a
bit more in my head. In my opinion, personally that
would be more stress for me because I'd feel like I'm having
to hit them all the time. Yeah, I hear that.
(10:57):
It's like a challenge, like I'vegot to do that.
And then when you don't, you're going to be disappointed, you
know what I mean? But you could set your goal at
50 and be happy every day or whatever.
Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I get that. I get that.
You could go, yeah, 50%, I'm halfway there.
Yeah, I'll get that. So yeah, that I, I love the Owen
Jack. I can turn my phone sideways.
(11:20):
It makes my graph like that. Oh, you and your landscape view.
That's all you've been going on about.
Yeah, exactly. Because that's what I just like
stuff like that. I mean, with diabetes, you're
always looking at your phone. Yeah, And this has the shit I
wanted. Yeah, true.
Yeah, you are a very tech geek as well.
(11:43):
You love all that stuff. See me?
I don't really care. It's a break.
Bad. Point honestly, a lot it's it's
something is keeping me alive like there's going to be pros
and cons with everything don't matter whether you're with one
or with the other there's going to be bad stuff, there's going
to be good things I don't need the fucking headache I'm cool
(12:05):
with whatever I. Want let's have a sip of water.
We're going to the next round. So round. 4.
Sense of reliability and calibration.
I'm OK. So what before this podcast,
Jack, what did you show me your blood reading was and what was
(12:26):
your CTM reading? My Libra was 3.4 and my blood
glucose monitor was 4.9. So that's not quite a lot.
Not really 1.5. It was because because when
you're below 4, you're low and. Yeah, yeah.
Because yeah, I'm considering. I had literally just that second
(12:48):
before I had finger pricked not just that, but probably about
two or three minutes ate a bag of Harry boats.
So therefore my blood sugar is spiking quicker than the sensor
can keep up. Well every time I've finger
pricked and tests with my Dexcomit's born.
I'll eat a bag of Harry boats bobbing and test 5 minutes
after. I've got Reese's Pieces.
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What'd that do? Well mate, do it next time
you're having a hypo or something, not when you you're
just level. I'll do it.
I'll do it when I'm level like when I wake up or when I like
just during the day at a random one just to have a look and it's
and it is always pretty much spot on.
You know, when I went to the Libra Plus, yeah, it was
actually so much better at reading to defend it a little
(13:30):
bit. I'm not saying Libra is totally
shit. It's not look at you're just so
biased now I told you I've switched over.
It's. Supposed to be a battle mate.
Yeah, I could. That's cool, bruv.
That's cool. And this calibration waffle,
bruv. Yeah.
Explain to me how that works. How can you change something?
(13:51):
And then that's that's right. That's like me fucking.
That's like the clock. Your your clock.
Now it's 6:00. But now I'm like, now fuck it,
it's 7, so I'll change it. So what does that mean?
Now miraculously, it's 7:00. Yeah, of course you don't.
So how can you change it? Will.
Continue in that trend, won't it?
Yeah. See, I just thought I don't get,
there must just be something in my brain.
(14:12):
I don't, I don't, I honestly really do not get how something
is reading something in your arm.
So that data that is on the screen is whatever that sensor
is reading. It's like a new tire on the car.
Let me finish. Fuck's sake.
Go on, you are now that app. All the data on that screen is
now what the sensor is reading from whatever sort of fucking
(14:36):
chip or whatever is inside it. Yeah.
So say that chip is slightly wrong.
Yeah. Which does happen and has
happened when I use Libra. Yeah.
All right, so it's like getting your tires changed on your car.
You get new tires whacked on, say, the tracking's out.
Yeah, realign them wheels or calibrate them.
(14:59):
Guess what? You can move in a fucking
straight line mate. Yeah, guess what then?
Wheels ain't reading data. No, they're.
Reading No, it's a wheel. Broth.
It's a wheel. Open your mind.
It's. No, it's not open in my mind,
broth not open in my mind. I don't understand it.
I want, I want someone Technologia.
(15:20):
I want someone technical to comeon here and tell me exactly how
that works because I am I being thick or honestly I don't under.
Are you not your head, brother? I swear this will turn into a
fire. How?
I don't understand how somethingis reading data from your arm.
(15:43):
You are now manually entering different data.
That's false data because that'snot what that is reading.
That is now what you have entered SO.
I don't. Understand how that works.
Just leave it alone and let it fucking crack on brother.
Or change the center and stop whingeing.
Or fix what's broken. Yeah, change it.
(16:03):
That's why I went to Dexcom. Change it takes, thanks for
often. Change it simple then bring them
up and say fucking don't work mate send me a new one fuck.
It right Jack needs a beer. No, I'm cool with my cup of tea,
bro. Don't you worry about me call
calm and collective over here, just like my labra.
I think you need to calibrate your emotions a little bit.
(16:25):
I think you need to fuck off with your calibration.
Should we? Should we sip some water?
Let's go back to our stools. I've got Pepsi Max.
I've got multiple drinks. Fucking never satisfied, Yeah.
Because I I just went to sippy tea and realized it was empty.
(16:47):
I was so disappointed, but I didn't want to make a big thing.
Right, so, so right. Going back, ignore the
calibration. Com reliability Where's Where's
your finger prick? What do you mean?
Where's my finger prick? Oh, my blood to shoot.
You know, let's probably not do that because it won't be right.
(17:07):
Oh, you wanted me to do a live test?
Yeah, but I was just saying my bloods are fucking rocketing,
bro, so let's, yeah, let's. Not always get angry.
You do not worry. That's emotion.
Not Harry. Both.
You don't want to see me when I'm yellow, bro.
I'm good when I'm green. You don't want to see me when
it's yellow. Right.
And also when I say like sensor reliability, it's like them
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fucking working when you put them on.
Obviously, you know, a few weeksago I said I had five senses
fail on me and all this. Yeah.
So that's another thing with reliability.
See, I've I've, I've had a few. I have had a few.
The only time really when my Libra starts fucking up and gets
errors and does all that shit iseither when I'm so active at
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work. It just literally cannot keep up
with what my bloods are doing because they're dropping and
going up so fast, which is understandable.
And if I knock it. OK.
Or I catch it on something. Do you know what I mean?
All the others that there's not really been any, but I'll say
there is a few, but there's not many that I can remember over
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the past how since I've been on the libraries that have just
failed because they failed. Yeah, see, I hit a bad wall of
it. That's why this ain't good.
Pretty much everyone that I've done is, I'd say probably about
60% of them that have failed, it's probably been my fault.
Yeah, I'm disarmed. Well, I've knocked them.
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Or you're just disarming them and whacking them off light
switches and catching them off sheets of temporary fencing
bushes. Oh yeah, the cat attacking them.
Yeah, I forgot about. That right, let's go round six.
We're going to go through a comfort and size, right.
I honestly didn't feel that the Libra too was uncomfortable.
(18:58):
I can honestly say that but sizewise the Dexcom one plus is
smaller. Yeah, it is.
You showed me the other day whenwe went out over the weekend and
yeah, and it is tiny. Yeah.
Again, that might, as I say, in my opinion, that might
personally to other people mightbe a big thing, but to me
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personally, that is really not abig thing for me.
I don't really care. And.
It could, it could, it could be the size of like, I have to wear
the fucking patch on my back brother.
If that's all that is available to keep me alive, then so be it.
That's what I've got to do in it.
No, you've got finger pricks toomate.
Yeah, Oh yeah, that is true. Tiny.
(19:40):
And also I don't have to just wear it on my arm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is the one.
Do you remember? I think you remember last year
when I was, I was going to switch to the Dexcoms when I
last year. And that was the reason because
I kept catching them on my arm at work, in the bushes and on
fences. So they were suggested that I
was going to go onto the Dexcomsbecause I can put them on my
(20:01):
fire, my belly, my back. Yeah, but now I have a fear.
I'm scared to put it anywhere else because I've been on the
Libra for so many years and I'm more like, I can't put it there.
That's alien. It's like just weird to me.
Yes, yeah. Again, that's like people that
have started on the Dexcom, it'sprobably like normal to the
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minute to change their sights sort of every, every time you
change your sensor. Yeah, just fright.
Fright in the air wherever it lands.
The only Yeah, just not on your elbow.
No, it's Libra only. But yeah, it's literally Libra
is what you can wear your Libra anywhere.
(20:43):
So I've seen on socials and apparently you do get pretty
good readings elsewhere, but Libra themselves state that it
should only be worn on the backsof your arms.
Yeah, that is true, right, so. Round 7 Sharing.
And connectivity, right? So sharing wise, I just sent my
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Mrs. a link and she can see my bra.
That's it. It is exactly the same as a
Libra. Yeah, connecting it to my phone
is totally different. On the actual applicator I have
a little QR code that I can takea picture of or enter manually.
OK, one and that pairs that certain sensor with your device.
(21:28):
So I don't have to tap my arm once with my fucking phone.
OK, I I think tapping is actually quite easier than
sitting here trying to fucking scan QR codes and she just put
it on your arm and go beep. There you go, job done, it reads
it. Fairpoint but since my phone had
an update right? I've got the Galaxy S24 plus, my
(21:52):
scanning of my Libra sensor but stopped working.
I had to restart my phone just to scan my sensor.
It was really weird. OK, well that just sounds like
your phone's a piece of shit. Well, it shouldn't be, but it
might. There's anything to do with
Libra? No, it might not be.
It might just be something to dowith Samsung and their update,
(22:13):
or Libra not rolling out the update quick enough to my phone
or whatever, I don't know. That's all technical Margo jumbo
jargon to me, bruv. You know, I'm like, said it
about 10 minutes. It's the car.
Don't give a shit about tech. Give me a tip of spray paint and
a blank wall. That's me bruv.
(22:36):
Round 8. Cost and access.
Technically in the UK we don't have to pay for it.
No, but yeah, I still have to get that funding.
Yeah, true, true that. That also was when I was going
to get last year. That was one of the things that
was brought up. They will have to ask to see if
they will be funded for me before they actually transfer me
(22:57):
over. Yeah.
Do they get sent? Can you just go and pick them up
from the pharmacy or do they getsent on like through the post
like a subscription thing? Mine's pharmacy I think you can
do orders. I think that's more for the self
funded that gave direct from Dexcom.
OK. Or it might be just how my like
borough works. Yeah, yeah, true.
(23:21):
Because I know I've seen people online like they, they get like
they like Dexcom delivery day and it's just the box full of
shit. I don't know, I'm actually going
to have to find out because obviously I haven't had my
proper order yet, so I will update everyone on that.
There we go, next round. So but yeah, if you sell
(23:43):
funding, Libra is much cheaper. Round 9.
So me I done a few polls so I asked the Instagram check them
fuck all. I'm not going to say what this
game through my head. Right, so the Instagram
(24:07):
community have answered, I said what do you prefer Libra versus
Dexcom? Dexcom are currently winning at
62%. Oh.
That's close bro. Yeah, that's what I mean.
It's not as mad as you think. And Libra are on 38% obviously.
So I told you, Rob, there's going to be pros and cons.
(24:28):
I guarantee it. You give it within the next six
months of this podcast, there's going to be times where you come
on here and you're going to be going.
It's fucking Dexcom and to. Be honest I.
Guarantee it. That is between 48 votes for
Dexcom and 41 votes for Libra. So, and I only put up the story
(24:51):
not long ago, so sorry guys, butthat is good to know.
And then I put it in our community chat.
I don't think Libra's got one vote.
Jack didn't even fucking vote for Libra.
I didn't even know you put something in there mate, to be
honest. Jack is very active in our
community. I am sometimes, depends what I'm
doing. I'm always driving at work
(25:14):
brother. I can't be on my phone.
Come on, safety. First, let me get the power up.
So in the community, yeah, 100% Dexcom.
Because I think nearly every single person in the community
is on Dexcom, so it's going to be 100% in it.
Right, right. So right.
Round. 10. Community Comments.
So I asked people to I want you to respond to these lives.
(25:37):
See what you think, Jacob. See.
Because you don't. Yeah, go on, because I actually
haven't read them. Right, so someone goes found
Libra lost signal a lot. That's why they're choosing
Dexcom. Dare lose your signal.
So did. So did you in and there for a
second there well. Yeah, exactly.
(25:58):
That's like things lose signal like it's like I said, it's it's
Technologia, this is going to gowrong.
Right. And then someone else said works
with my insulin pump for hybrid closed loop.
Yeah, see, that's a valid point.So that that's a very fairpoint
they can be on the pump because.Yeah, 100%.
And I think that's why the majority of people gone on to
(26:18):
Dexcom originally. Someone else goes.
Started on Libra, didn't mind ituntil I moved on to Dexcom, then
realized how shit Libra was. The end.
Fair play, Fairpoint. Right, another one Dexcom app
(26:39):
looks so messy. I trialled the Dexcom the other
month. OK, so they get confused by new
stuff like you Jack. Yeah, see, I don't like change.
I know what I'm doing. It's like it's routine.
I don't like different routines.It froze me.
Up someone else. I've never used the Libra.
My doctors prescribed Dexcom. OK, that's actually quite
(27:00):
interesting because but they arenot from the UK.
There you go. Yeah, then someone goes.
I voted Libra, but only because I haven't tried Dexcom yet.
I am however about to switch. Everyone's switching.
I have to honestly, like I keep saying like it's to me, I'm I
(27:24):
made a big thing and it drove meinsane at the start of when I
first got diagnosed in the startof this podcast of relying on
that so, so much. And it used to make me mad and
drive me crazy all day because I'd be staring at it.
Yeah. So now I don't really care about
it that much as long as I've gota number and something to go
(27:45):
off. And I know now in my body,
because I've had it for a coupleof years, generally just in
myself, how I feel. I try not to rely on things like
that because it's technology. It can and it will go wrong at
some point. And when that does happen, if
you rely on it so much, you're going to go fucking mental
because you do not know what to do.
(28:06):
That's true. So I try not to just make that a
big thing. So until it starts really
affecting my life and if it getsreally, really terrible and
starts doing mad shit, then yeah, I probably will switch and
try something else. But until that point, I don't
really care. As long as I'm healthy and I'm
happy, fuck it. Happy day, Sir.
So someone else goes readings onmy watch, right guys?
(28:33):
I had a Libra. I got readings on my watch.
I've got Dexcom now. I've got readings on my watch,
they work on both. Yeah.
You just need to know how to getit.
If you're a Android user get G watch wear.
That's what I use. Or you can use the guru app but
someone else goes. Libra nearly killed me with an
inaccuracy in 2021. Oh wow.
(28:56):
OK. That's not good.
No. So you're on Dexcom now, then?
I'll probably take it, yeah. Someone goes I vote Libra.
Just prefer the way that app is set out.
More basic than Dexcom. Nice and simple.
Yeah, literally. Nice and simple.
It does exactly what it says on the tin most of the time.
(29:18):
I like the most of the time someone goes.
Libra was my first love, but Dexcom's my soul mate.
Oh my God. Wow.
That's and then some of those. Dexcom gave me anxiety with all
the alarms. I went back to Libra and my
(29:39):
brain was quiet again. So can you set like 2?
Alarms not on the desk com one plus app when I had the G7.
Do you remember? I tried that for a while.
Yeah. I could set an alarm, 2 alarms
or a low or a high. So can you not do like what I do
and follow yourself and? I haven't followed myself, but
(30:03):
yes you can set custom alarms for like the person you're
sharing with. OK, yeah.
So like Amber can have Yeah, so the your missus can have her own
alarm. Yeah, which is usually the 3.31
just in case I'm going into a coma.
Yes, question wise. Yeah.
(30:25):
But yeah, I'd say in that aspectof it, they're very similar.
So guys, that is the kind of debate done.
So what? What's the overall then?
So personally for me I love the Dexcom one plus I didn't like
the G7. So I'm going to say this now.
(30:45):
I had the Dexcom G7 at 7 and didn't like it too much.
OK. But compared to the Libra 2, the
Dexcom one, well, compared to the Libra 2 Plus, the Dexcom One
Plus smashes it out the water for me.
And it's the app. The app has sold it to me.
Yeah, little tech geek. Yeah, and how?
(31:07):
And I'll just find it more reliable.
Yeah, that's good. I'm glad you're happy mate.
Yeah, so am I. How about you?
You're. Might might actually have some
happy content from you instead of coming on there whinging
about your sensor every week. Have.
I been doing that. Grumpy Mike.
(31:27):
Mike Rants ain't been out in a while, so.
And like I said, I guaranteed everyone very soon.
Give it, give it time. We'll see.
We'll see guys put in the comments.
When do you think I'll fall out of love with Dexcom?
Yeah. And yeah, people let let me know
that is there still cons to the Dexcom or is it as perfect as
(31:50):
everyone saying it? That's a fair question.
I at the moment I can't find a fault in it so.
Fair play. But then I have multiple years
experience with a Libra so I canwrite a book about it.
Yeah, true, true. Like you say, it's all you're
learning again and you're like anew learning experience again.
(32:12):
Yeah, because obviously the reason, the main reason for
switching was the multiple failures with Libra.
And also I've changed my insulinso and I've realized change
isn't always bad change, change can be good.
So it's kind of me adjusting my own emotions to kind of like
(32:33):
accept things that change can happen, change can be good, and
all this because obviously I'm adeep person.
You are. Yeah.
So, yeah, yeah. Well, like I say, I'm glad
you're happy mate and I I hope it goes well for you.
I'm sure you will keep us updated.
Yes, time and range one for an episode.
(32:53):
I personally don't think the battle will never, ever, never
last. Libra versus Dexcom.
There's always going to be, likeI say, there's always going to
be people on this side. There's always going to be
people on that side. Yeah, it's literally going to be
Team Jack and Team Mike now, isn't it?
Yeah. I'm the fierce Dexcom wanker and
(33:14):
he's missed the old school, no very rapid Libra.
Hey, old Lester, the old. All right, I'm younger than you.
Yes, you are I've. Only got covered in pen.
You child. Fucking hands bro.
Yeah, so for next episode guys, me and Jack are going to talk
(33:37):
about We met up. We did.
We went painting together. We did.
We also went to a food market. We did.
Mike got a little treat on the back of his dead.
Oh yeah, I think a treat. But that will all get revealed
in the next episode. OK, yeah.
(33:57):
So thank you for listening this week, everybody.
We will be back again. Same time, same place.
You know where to catch us. Keep following us, keep
supporting us. Don't forget to.
Like don't forget to. Share this episode to anyone.
Share Share Share. Sharing is caring and obviously
(34:20):
it's good. Do you believe love after love?
Not that share. I didn't expect that text
disappearing again, sorry. He might be.
Back soon, sorry. But yeah, guys, don't forget to
share this. Episode.
(34:41):
Yeah, you're here. You're here.
You're here. Not share.
But your Internet connection is unstable.
I fucking know. So guys, don't forget to share
this episode with anyone from the community or any family
member of someone that's type 1 diabetic because they might find
this episode quite insightful onchoices of CGM and yeah, just
(35:06):
getting on with diabetes like weall have to.
Yeah. And let us know with your Team
Libra or Team Dexcom. There will be a poll up on
Spotify. Sweet, I'm going to get out of
here before my Internet crashes.Yeah, right.
Thanks for listening everyone. Bye everyone.
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