May 10, 2025 • 30 mins
This week on We Are T1D, Mike and Jack unpack the reality of living with unreliable diabetes tech — from Freestyle Libre sensor failures to the emotional stress of depending on CGMs that just don’t work. After five sensor fails in six weeks, Mike’s had enough, and he’s not holding back.
Also in this episode:
⚠️ How sensor failures trigger CGM anxiety (and why warm-ups now feel like betting on luck)
🤺 The honest Freestyle Libre vs Dexcom debate — pros, cons, and user frustrations
🍗 Post-birthday spikes, BBQ blood sugars, and Jack’s perfect homemade curry
😂 The applicator disaster you won’t believe, and what not to do with a sensor
Whether you're a long-time T1D tech user or new to the CGM game, this episode brings honest, funny, and relatable insight into diabetes life — with a good dose of banter thrown in.
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(00:00):
Welcome back to the We Are T1D podcast, the podcast where
diabetes tries it every day, every hour, every minute.
And we chat about it, laugh about it, and sometimes fully
lose the plot about it. But that's pretty normal.
And a little disclaimer for thisepisode, if you're an Abbott
(00:23):
Freestyle executive for owner orwhatever you are, this episode
might hurt you a little bit because me and Jack have had
sensor problems. Well, I think mine was sort of
my own fault. Mine wasn't.
I got told I don't know how to use one by my wife.
(00:47):
She's the expert. I know basically I've had five
senses fail me in the last six weeks 5. 5.
Yeah. We haven't really spoke properly
for a few weeks because we've been, well, sorry, I shouldn't
have been that cookie before I started talking.
Sure, I'm a patient man. I remember what I was saying.
(01:15):
It's all right, still waiting. Diabetes, that was it.
Oh yeah, I have that type 1 me. How about you?
Yeah, I'm type 1. Oh, we're the same type.
So cute. It's so wholesome.
So cute. Welcome to the We Are T1D
podcast. The Realist Type 1 Diabetes
(01:38):
podcast online hosted by myself Mike diagnosed at the age of 10.
And myself, Jack diagnosed at the age of 30.
We are just two mates giving youan insight into life with this
chronic condition. Yes, we are adults and although
we try not to swear, it may happen occasionally.
Yeah, as Jack said, we are adults, but please take what we
(02:01):
say as guidance and not medical advice.
No, trust me, we are not doctors.
We are just here to make sure notype 1 diabetic ever, ever feels
alone. Oh, that's what I was saying.
We haven't caught up for a few weeks.
No, we haven't. What you've been up to then?
Not a lot, just loads. Loads of painting, loads of
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walking, loads of home cooked meals.
Just a sort of a little bit of amental reset.
That's really nice, Jack. Compose yourself.
Oh, oh, so nice. Well, you've been painting paint
by numbers. Yeah.
Have you good for the mind, you know?
(02:48):
Yeah. No, no, I've been doing my
graffiti, been out doing that a couple of weekends and yeah,
just as I say, just loads of walking.
That's good. Back to calm cooking sucker.
It's just a bit of a mental reset.
Simplify things. Try not to think about shit.
Simple is as simple does. And it's working because I don't
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know, after a while I don't feel100% still, but I feel a little
bit better and and my time in range has actually gone from the
60s into the 80s. So that's helping my mental.
No spoilers on this podcast. No, I didn't know we was doing
it last time. You threw your dummy out.
Didn't. You wow, sorry.
(03:34):
So what is your time in range, Jack?
We're just we're. There's no structure in this
episode. Oh no, don't have to go straight
to it. I was just saying it's gone from
that to that. Yeah, we do.
I want to know what is it? What is it?
It is 84%. That is amazing.
Well done, Jack. Thank you.
Thank you. Yep, join another round of
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applause. I've given you 2 mate. 22.
Yeah, two round applause. Oh, thanks.
Yes. Well, I'll have a third if it's
going. Go and then.
What's yours? Mine is 94. 90. 4 - 20.
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No 74. Yeah, that's it.
Good baths. He's definitely a diabetic.
That was my diabetes test. Yeah, that's that's all right.
No, I'm happy with that. That's good.
Because obviously this is including my birthday, weekend,
alcohol, everything. So, yeah, so I'm happy with
(04:38):
that. Yeah, that's decent love.
Yeah, I'm happy. The heat's been helping me out
quite a lot as well, to be fair.I've been running low a lot
today. Have you?
Yeah, lots of Luca's aid. Whole bottle actually.
I find Luca's aid pretty shit. But try the other flavour.
It like it don't last long at all, like coke last longer.
(05:01):
No, I don't like coke. I'm just saying I didn't ask if
you fucking liked it or not did I was just making a statement.
Well, I didn't ask if you liked Luca's aid, didn't I?
Really. Again, I know I wasn't
answering, I was just making a statement.
What did Ashley call you? Sassy pants.
Sassy pants. Touch your bitch.
(05:23):
Ass up. Yeah, every now, every time I
drink Lucas there brother. It literally don't do fuck all
really. It works for me, but your body's
probably so used to Coke, which is just like, it's Coke in it.
Like kids are told not to drink Coke because they go nuts.
My kids also told not to drink leucozade because it's full of
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shit. If you're not well.
If you're not well, you get a bottle of Leucozade I used.
To I should hope you get some anti fucking biotics.
No, I just got Leucozade. That's it.
Leucozade and toast. You'll be fine soon, don't
worry. And look at me now.
Just type 1 Tarbek. Not what causes it.
(06:09):
No, they're definitely not. I think our listeners know, but
yeah. So anything else happened, Jack?
Or is it literally just painting, walking and cooking
meals at home? Yeah, cooking loads of meals and
done a homemade Curry. Nice.
Which was spot on. But it should be you made it
(06:29):
yourself. Imagine making food and not
liking it. I've done it before.
And we actually. They have ever been to a gun?
Yeah, fuck that. Yeah, take away.
I tried guys, I tried. And the effort was there.
It's a fault that counts. Last weekend I had a BBQ.
(06:56):
This weekend was gone. And yeah, it was.
I enjoyed every single last little bite of it.
And then about 6 hours later, the fucking blood sugar come
back with revenge. Oh, the protein kick.
Oh, I did have a lot of meat. So it was a lot of fat, a lot of
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protein, and it was pretty much exactly spot on six hours on
dot. Mate, I had 4 pork chops.
Oh, black pork chops. That's a big old portion.
Though I had half a kilo of pork.
I'm a pig. Yeah, I was high all night,
(07:38):
funny enough. That's not good pork.
Pork very fatty, but that's why.Yeah, it's so nice.
And we do that. We always put bread crumbs on it
as well. No sage and onion stuffing.
So stuffing and pork I felt stuffed my.
God stuff is never good with me.I'm all right, I think.
(07:58):
I don't know. No.
But on my BBQ I think I I had what did I?
Me. You had sausages?
Yeah, you had burgers. You have chicken. 2 sausages, 1
burger, 2 Chinese chicken fries,4 minted lamb kebabs and just
some plain pasta with butter over it.
(08:20):
That's very boring pasta. I like it.
Butter and pasta. Yeah, just plain plain pasta.
Bit of butter over it. Not even cheese.
No pasta. Oh right, The meat sounds
amazing though. What's what's wrong with my
pasta? Pasta just ain't worth the risk
of a high, you know? Sorry, it's not even.
(08:41):
Exciting pasta, pasta all more out with pasta.
It's chicken. I've never said pasta so many
times in the past. Pasta, pasta, pasta, pasta,
pasta, pasta. Very, very bland no.
It's not actually a bit of salt and pepper.
Was it salted butter? Yeah, it's salted butter, and
then you put a bit of pepper over it.
Oh, we're adding some more ingredients now.
(09:02):
Anything else? No, that's it.
Oh, you just killed it. This episode we was going to
talk about our sensors, but theyain't even coming into it.
You're going to have to wait till the end.
I'm sorry. This episode is sponsored by
WeChat, shit.com. Yes, and if that's a real
website, please do not go to it.You never know.
(09:25):
Now come and wipe them your sensors.
But I want to know. But first sensor I thought I'm
going to put it on the other armlike give give my arm a rest.
Waited an hour. No, it gave me that.
Wait 10 minutes for the glucose reading malarkey it usually
gives you. I thought, oh, this is going to
fail. Oh what?
Straight away as soon as it kicked in.
(09:46):
Yeah, as soon as it kicked in, Iwas like, no, it's it's dead.
So it didn't kick in, it said. Then after the 10 minutes or 15
minutes it said replace sensor. So I was like, oh great, the
next one worked. I put it back on my other arm
and then next change put it on for I'll put it on the other arm
(10:07):
again, give it a break. Done the same thing.
I will warm up this time. It didn't give me the 10
minutes, it just said now replace it.
Oh, really? Yeah, I didn't even get the
tease. I didn't even get the tease.
It just said no, don't for all right.
And then obviously two weeks again, replace your sensor.
(10:27):
I thought, right, I'm going to get this one, it's going to
work. I'm getting like an anxiety to
change my sensor. Now I'm scared to change my
sensor because I'm scared they're not going to work.
Oh, that's not good. I had three sensors left from my
prescription. I put on one, put it on a normal
alcohol wipe, put it on, boom. How I've always done it in all
(10:49):
the years I've had sensors failed.
Replace sensor. I was thinking, so open up a new
box, get another one up, put it on my arm, wait an hour.
It worked so I went to bed. Cuts out at 3:00 in the morning.
Wake up, replace sensor. Oh.
(11:09):
Now I'm on my last sensor, it needs to work, so I put that one
on and lucky enough it worked. So I ended up having to get an
emergency prescription for sensor just in case this one
fails at some point or whatever.Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, so is that five? I think that's 5 No 4.
It's a lot of sensors bro. And then a few weeks before I
(11:32):
had a needle stuck in the arm. One.
Don't remember that one. Oh yeah.
And that failed. The little sword.
Yeah, it's like a little toothpick, but yes, so it would
have failed. And as I said minute ago, I've
got like a fear of changing my sensor now because I've lost
(11:56):
trust in it. Once it's on and working I I'm
fine with it. Yeah, yeah, it's.
Just that initial first. It's after warm up like so for a
whole hour I'm like praying please work, please work, please
work, please work. I think that's probably one of
the most stressful things that we have to go through as a
diabetic is when the tech that we rely on so, so much doesn't
(12:22):
work how it's supposed to. It is just what one of the most
stressful things to try and overcome, yeah.
To people that are listening that are not diabetic, imagine
breaking both your ankles and going for a walk.
It's a bit much. No, it's not.
We can finger prick, but they'rejust crutches, aren't they?
(12:45):
That's my analogy of it. Yeah, yeah, that's that's Mike's
analogy of the week. Yeah, there you go.
Tech fails is like breaking yourankles.
Live by that. So this week I've been walking
a. Load of loads of people keep
(13:09):
recommending the debts comp. I'm saying that doesn't have as
much dropouts and as much signalfailure and this and that.
But our field is there's still going to be certain stresses
with the Dexcom, there isn't with the Libra and Vice.
Versa, it's like all thing. It's literally like Apple versus
Android with the Dexcom and oh. Yeah, yeah, they both do the
(13:31):
same things, but they don't do the same things, if that makes
any sense. Like it's.
No, they don't. Do exactly the same thing, but
it's a different software? There you go.
Yeah, there you go. Literally that is all.
It is exactly the same thing, it's just a different chip.
Yeah, it's literally lines and dots.
Do you prefer dots or do you prefer lines?
(13:57):
I actually quite like the look of the dats con graph because it
doesn't look as drastic. Every time I see a dats con
graph it looks so nice and smooth and then I look at mine
and it's just that fucking. Yeah, our 24 hour graph is
mental. Even if it's from like 4:00 to
7:00. It's like fuck me, did I go up
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that much? I.
Wonder if you can open it on like a 42 inch wide screen telly
It's just that don't look as bad.
I know I've been trying to open it on my computer, it won't let
me. Because it don't look as bad
when you go for your check UPS and they open it up on their
laptops and their PCs or whatever and they open it on the
screen. It doesn't look as drastic.
(14:38):
No, I've. Because I remember they pulled
something out with me. It's like that.
That was yeah, go through. And I'm thinking I'm looking at
my phone like fuck me, that thatlooked like a really bad day on
my phone. It looks all right on there.
Yeah, that's what I mean. It's so deceiving.
They should add or rotate, but if you look at your graph on the
Libra app you should be able to rotate your phone.
(15:00):
Oh, like a landscape view? Yeah, that's what I mean.
Yeah. You just put it into words.
Yeah, well, I'm still we all over rotate, I don't know and.
I do you know what I I think loads of episodes before I
missed like your daily timing range.
Yeah. I miss it.
I miss it. But that used to send me loopy
(15:23):
because I used to be chasing numbers all the time.
Yeah, but if your numbers, if your standard ain't set so high,
which it was back then. Yeah, that was because I was
scared of everything. Yeah, but your standard ain't as
high. Now it is but.
That is very true. So you're going to be more oh,
that's because I hate that. That's fine.
Yeah. What?
Yeah, yeah. Just like we've said, it's.
(15:44):
Kind of weeks, guys. It's like having a cheat day,
like in a diet, OK, I'm not going to lose pounds that day.
Yeah. It's exactly the same.
Yeah, yeah. That is to say, it's it's all
experience in it. So yeah, I I would love to
redesign the Libra app love to, but apparently have you seen
(16:06):
this? Like the sneaky one that's going
about. More Sneaky 1.
I'll show it on TikTok. So basically you can silence
your alarms so that between a certain time point.
OK. There's loads of stuff to it.
I think daily timing range was back on it.
That's good, but they haven't rolled it out everywhere yet.
(16:27):
So if anyone has managed to get a hold of this app, I don't
know. I think the man was from China
or America. Oh, it's the actual Libra app.
Yeah, he found it in his store. So I couldn't find it and I
searched on my Android store. So I don't know if it's
obviously people have different phones, some of them main
Android, some of them main blah blah.
(16:47):
So they might be testing it on different stores if so to speak.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There definitely needs to be an
update on the Libra app because I would love dark mode.
What's all this Libra 2 plus talk as well what I'm hearing?
That is so they are compatible with pumps.
(17:09):
OK, that's actually quite interesting, bro, Because that
is the one thing, like when I was going through shitty high
sugars all the time, like a couple of weeks ago, I was
thinking like, I might just get a pump.
Yeah, but that was one thing that was stopping me asking
because I knew I'd have to fuck around changing all the sensors
and shit. Yeah, So the pump the Libra 2
(17:29):
Plus is compatible with is the TSlim X2.
That's one of them ones with thetubes on, innit?
I'm not sure. I'm sure the T Slim's got a
cannula and a tube. Oh, they're not ripping off in a
Bush. Yeah, you like bushes?
I. Don't like bushes, It's just
part of my job. Well, close enough.
(17:59):
I had a bit of a mishap with a sensor.
Yeah, tell me more. Tell me more.
Oh, well, it this is it's and it's like I said at the
beginning, it was actually it's,it was my fault.
It's nothing to do with Libra. It's nothing to do with them
having anything to do with the product.
It was just me being me. So I've loaded my sensor up as
(18:20):
you would normally plunged it down a little pop thing, pulled
it out. And since I've since I had that
needle protrude further than theblue line when it I had to stick
it in that one time, I always check.
So I looked and it the needle was slightly, slightly over.
(18:41):
So I just put all the blue things just popped them out
because obviously it's like it'snot that because it's come back
out of the pot thing sort of. So just pulled them out and
they've gone click perfect in position.
Now that was the time me put thesensor on.
So that was loaded. Now it's that was loaded.
Ready to go. It's ready to go, Roth.
(19:03):
So I carried on to inspect it. I don't know why.
I don't know what I was looking for.
I don't know what I wanted to dowith.
I don't know what I wanted to find.
But all of a sudden I was touching the blue part.
It just went click and the fucking whole thing's
disappeared and I just left withthe applicator and the lonely
(19:27):
sensor just sitting there. You disarmed your sensor.
I I disarmed the Libra sensor without blowing yourself up.
The world is safer now, guys. Yeah, court.
Honestly, if anyone wants to usecracker safe, here's the ring.
(19:50):
I reckon I've got it. When you don't mean to.
Yeah, yeah, I'll just have to doit.
Just not look at it and be like just give it a slap, see what
happens. Pretend you're closing here and
they're actually open. Trying to catch you off guard.
(20:12):
So, yeah, don't play with your Libra sentences everyone,
because they might disarm themselves.
Yeah, because I, I did think when I, when I saw the blue
little parts disappear, I thought, oh, shall I just firm
it out and just go for it and just put it in.
I did like did cross my mind because you are essentially
doing that anyway. It's just that blue bit just
(20:33):
creates a. The needle helps the finger into
your arm though, doesn't it? Yeah, but that's what I've
realised. I sort of looked at it and
thought, can I just plunge this in now because I thought the
needle was still there. Yeah.
But then as I've sort of like inspected it a bit more without
touching it this time good, I'verealised the needle would have
gone inside the pot with the blue bits, so it was just a
(20:57):
floppy bit of filament just whacking around do.
You reckon if you stuck it for to your tongue for an hour it
would read it I. Don't know.
Stick it to your tongue, dye it up.
It's. Still in the drawer.
Should I go and do it? Yeah, do it.
I want to know. Yeah.
Do it. So yeah, don't don't play real
Libra sensors everywhere. No, just put them on normally
(21:20):
and hopefully they work. Yeah, I've not had no problems
with that. Actually that's good.
Like as of yet. Until recent, nor have I, I've
always praised Libra. You know what I'm like.
I I still see them as my lifesavers.
Yeah. But recently, since all this
talk of the Plus has come out, it seems like they've cut back
(21:40):
on something. Like what have they cut back on?
What do you mean like all that? When iPhone brings a new one
out, they cut the softwares on the old ones.
Yeah, pretty much. I I reckon I've got a
discombobulated chip. I've started recycling them.
(22:01):
Maybe. No, I don't.
I thought that that was not. I don't know.
No, they definitely don't recycle, but not just to all.
All praise to Libra though, because they have replaced all
of my sensors that did not work.Oh.
That's good. They are really good with that.
Yeah, and they're actually sending me free Libra 2 pluses.
(22:21):
Oh wow. As a replacement from a Libra
twos, so do. Some.
I would have got 4 but I couldn't remember the code for
the other one so they wouldn't take it.
But on a little trick for anyonethat uses the Gluru app, you
know when they ask for your serial for your sensor, the
Gluru app stores each one and you can date back really far.
(22:44):
Oh, really? It's in your little the main
page diary bit. Never knew that.
No, I didn't either till I was looking at Gluru.
Well, you could have got your 4/1.
Yeah, I could have. Oh wow.
Have you still got Gluru jet? I've still got it, don't use it.
I found it was just another thing for me to look at.
Yeah, you like looking at thingsthough, don't you?
(23:05):
No, yeah, yeah. But I need to stop.
Well, my daily timing range today is 80.
Well, don't you? I haven't got that.
And there is fucking five peopleabove me.
So do you lot. I bet you got pumped.
I did have a little cute moment the other week I was having,
well, not me personally, but it was, it was Zoe.
(23:27):
She did make me smile. Yeah.
I was having a proper shit day, like one of my crap days.
I was having a really bad littlemeltdown bit and she just looked
at me and pushed my sensor and just went reset.
And like I just and just smiled at me and I'll just like it
really, really just made like I brought the biggest smile to my
(23:48):
face and it's just like, if onlyif it was that fucking easy,
man. Just a little.
Click shut down, reset. But maybe it did work, it was
just a bit delayed because you're a bit better now.
Yeah. So we say don't fiddle, we give
with your senses people, but just get that person to say
reset. No, to be honest, that probably
(24:11):
made me bawl my eyes out Jack. So as much as I'm a piss taker
and a joker, I am probably one of the obvious people you meet.
Yeah, Yeah, he is. I have a good heart, but I'm a
piss taker. But yeah, that was, it was
really nice. It was just like a like oh wow,
(24:33):
if if only it was that fucking easy and I could just go reset.
No, that is nice. Start over again.
Start the day again. Makes me laugh when some girl at
work sometimes touches my arm. She still spazzes out whenever
she feels my sensor. Oh, oh, touch your sensor.
Oh, no, Oh, no, I'm like, it's fine.
(24:56):
She goes, but there's a needle. Doesn't the needle go in?
I'm like, no, it's OK. The needle's only when you put
it on. The other day we was in the
kitchen. See, this is how my wife goes
from nice to just evil. We was in the kitchen, we was
mucking around cooking dinner and I can't remember what I'd
(25:17):
done. I think I put I think I shoved
her. She she bent over to get staying
at the cupboard and I'd just give her a little nut.
So she's like full over. She turned around and just
grabbed her spatula and just went whacked straight on the
side of my arm. Broth hit me, sensor full on
whacked my sensor. Was you a bit sensitive?
And yeah, it fucking hurt. Broth.
(25:39):
Like it really fucking hurt. It's a stung instantly.
I thought I you fucked it. She's I started playing on it.
She's gone. Are you all right?
I'm like, no, you really. I think you've broken my sense.
I think you've broke here. Like I guarantee that's going to
be cut out soon. You're so mean.
I'm only choking, don't worry. That's how teachers took me on a
(26:00):
fucking arm. Wouldn't.
It you didn't say joke until after two hours.
You're horrible. But yeah, no, my my sensor
actually done a weird thing today.
I was sitting in the car. You know when you just sit down
in the car and you just have your alone time?
It's just to rest your mind. And I don't know what I do, why
I do it, but I just do it. Yeah, mine's usually the
(26:22):
bathroom. Yeah, mine's my car.
I literally just sit in my car and I just, I don't know where I
go. It's just a nice place.
And then I'll come back to reality, but I'll sit in there
and my arm was getting a bit hotbecause the sun was on me.
And then I looked at my I was going to drive.
And then I looked at my thing and it said sensor too hot.
(26:42):
I was thinking, oh. Do what?
Yeah, literally. I had like a little thermometer
next to it and it said sensor too hot.
I've never seen that before. Where the fuck did you go,
Tenerife for 10 minutes? No, just little car park mate.
Just fire slip, yeah? Oh shit, they know where I work
now. Oh shit yeah cut that out.
(27:05):
Sorry, I forgot why that. I leave it in.
I like visitors, but yeah, any T1DS come down to Ruislip.
Rave it up. No, don't.
Don't, don't, don't. Do that.
No. If you do, give me a shout.
I'll come with you. Yeah, but yeah, it baffled me
(27:27):
because I was like, wow. I was like, oh, I'm driving home
now. Like I got bugged out.
I was like, I'm driving home, but I could go low, I could be
high. I don't know what I am.
I'm going done, a panic drove. It's a sign silly to get get the
fuck out of the car park and go home.
Go home, Michael. But all the time I've been
working outside in the heat and I've had like nothing on my
(27:49):
sensor whatsoever and I've been like sweating absolute buckets
bro. Sunbathing in Turkey last year
when I was on holiday. Like I've never had a sensor too
hot. Yeah, nor have I I've been on
sunbeds of sunbathed as well. Nothing.
And. That's mad.
Maybe it's the car, maybe it's the window of the car enhancing
(28:12):
the heat. Or maybe it's like a magnifying
glass, like when used to kill the ants.
I need to watch Honey I Shrunk the Kids tonight.
Or ants. No, don't watch ants.
Sad. Bug life.
Bug's life. Oh my God, that was so good.
That's like the Caterpillar, theGerman one.
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Let's. Send.
It to a beautiful bottle flash. Right, right guys, We hope
you've enjoyed this episode. It's time for me and Jack to
transform. There will be less waffling
coming up. We have got guests planned
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everyone, so stay tuned for. That they might already be
recorded. Who knows?
But yeah, we're, we're going to aim for one a month or if we
record too many, there'll be a couple a month because yes.
Let's face it, Mike, it all depends on whether we can find
things to talk. About that beautiful
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butterflies. Yeah, we just get to guess.
A month on could be easier. We can find enough.
Yeah, we'll be all right for twomonths.
But yeah, if you're listening and you want to be a guest on
our podcast, get in touch, please.
Yeah, the e-mail is in the description of the podcast, so
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just e-mail us. Yeah, it's only a it's, it's
just like a 2 day vigorous interview training course and
then you get put into a boot camp and then me and Mike will
decide Adam and Deck will present the whole thing and then
you might be in a chance of winning.
What do I win? A place on a podcast.
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Oh my God, I so want to be on a podcast.
Oh, shot the guest. Jack, pick me.
Diabetes. He's Got Talent.
Could you imagine? That's a good, that's a good
brand, bruv. He starts a little YouTube.
There we go, me and Jack, with the ideas that we don't execute,
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ever. No, this podcast is pretty much
just ADHD in 45 minutes. Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah. And guys, we'll be back.
Where will when will we be back,Jack?
We will be back same time, same place next week and next week we
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will have someone extra. No, we won't.
No, it's not next week. I don't know what's he's on.
I don't know what's. Going on same time, same place,
bye bye. Bye.
Welcome back to the We Are T1D podcast, the podcast where
diabetes tries it every day, every hour, every minute.
And we chat about it, laugh about it, and sometimes fully
lose the plot about it. But that's pretty normal.
And a little disclaimer for thisepisode, if you're an Abbott
(00:23):
Freestyle executive for owner orwhatever you are, this episode
might hurt you a little bit because me and Jack have had
sensor problems. Well, I think mine was sort of
my own fault. Mine wasn't.
I got told I don't know how to use one by my wife.
(00:47):
She's the expert. I know basically I've had five
senses fail me in the last six weeks 5. 5.
Yeah. We haven't really spoke properly
for a few weeks because we've been, well, sorry, I shouldn't
have been that cookie before I started talking.
Sure, I'm a patient man. I remember what I was saying.
(01:15):
It's all right, still waiting. Diabetes, that was it.
Oh yeah, I have that type 1 me. How about you?
Yeah, I'm type 1. Oh, we're the same type.
So cute. It's so wholesome.
So cute. Welcome to the We Are T1D
podcast. The Realist Type 1 Diabetes
(01:38):
podcast online hosted by myself Mike diagnosed at the age of 10.
And myself, Jack diagnosed at the age of 30.
We are just two mates giving youan insight into life with this
chronic condition. Yes, we are adults and although
we try not to swear, it may happen occasionally.
Yeah, as Jack said, we are adults, but please take what we
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say as guidance and not medical advice.
No, trust me, we are not doctors.
We are just here to make sure notype 1 diabetic ever, ever feels
alone. Oh, that's what I was saying.
We haven't caught up for a few weeks.
No, we haven't. What you've been up to then?
Not a lot, just loads. Loads of painting, loads of
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walking, loads of home cooked meals.
Just a sort of a little bit of amental reset.
That's really nice, Jack. Compose yourself.
Oh, oh, so nice. Well, you've been painting paint
by numbers. Yeah.
Have you good for the mind, you know?
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Yeah. No, no, I've been doing my
graffiti, been out doing that a couple of weekends and yeah,
just as I say, just loads of walking.
That's good. Back to calm cooking sucker.
It's just a bit of a mental reset.
Simplify things. Try not to think about shit.
Simple is as simple does. And it's working because I don't
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know, after a while I don't feel100% still, but I feel a little
bit better and and my time in range has actually gone from the
60s into the 80s. So that's helping my mental.
No spoilers on this podcast. No, I didn't know we was doing
it last time. You threw your dummy out.
Didn't. You wow, sorry.
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So what is your time in range, Jack?
We're just we're. There's no structure in this
episode. Oh no, don't have to go straight
to it. I was just saying it's gone from
that to that. Yeah, we do.
I want to know what is it? What is it?
It is 84%. That is amazing.
Well done, Jack. Thank you.
Thank you. Yep, join another round of
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applause. I've given you 2 mate. 22.
Yeah, two round applause. Oh, thanks.
Yes. Well, I'll have a third if it's
going. Go and then.
What's yours? Mine is 94. 90. 4 - 20.
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No 74. Yeah, that's it.
Good baths. He's definitely a diabetic.
That was my diabetes test. Yeah, that's that's all right.
No, I'm happy with that. That's good.
Because obviously this is including my birthday, weekend,
alcohol, everything. So, yeah, so I'm happy with
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that. Yeah, that's decent love.
Yeah, I'm happy. The heat's been helping me out
quite a lot as well, to be fair.I've been running low a lot
today. Have you?
Yeah, lots of Luca's aid. Whole bottle actually.
I find Luca's aid pretty shit. But try the other flavour.
It like it don't last long at all, like coke last longer.
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No, I don't like coke. I'm just saying I didn't ask if
you fucking liked it or not did I was just making a statement.
Well, I didn't ask if you liked Luca's aid, didn't I?
Really. Again, I know I wasn't
answering, I was just making a statement.
What did Ashley call you? Sassy pants.
Sassy pants. Touch your bitch.
(05:23):
Ass up. Yeah, every now, every time I
drink Lucas there brother. It literally don't do fuck all
really. It works for me, but your body's
probably so used to Coke, which is just like, it's Coke in it.
Like kids are told not to drink Coke because they go nuts.
My kids also told not to drink leucozade because it's full of
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shit. If you're not well.
If you're not well, you get a bottle of Leucozade I used.
To I should hope you get some anti fucking biotics.
No, I just got Leucozade. That's it.
Leucozade and toast. You'll be fine soon, don't
worry. And look at me now.
Just type 1 Tarbek. Not what causes it.
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No, they're definitely not. I think our listeners know, but
yeah. So anything else happened, Jack?
Or is it literally just painting, walking and cooking
meals at home? Yeah, cooking loads of meals and
done a homemade Curry. Nice.
Which was spot on. But it should be you made it
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yourself. Imagine making food and not
liking it. I've done it before.
And we actually. They have ever been to a gun?
Yeah, fuck that. Yeah, take away.
I tried guys, I tried. And the effort was there.
It's a fault that counts. Last weekend I had a BBQ.
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This weekend was gone. And yeah, it was.
I enjoyed every single last little bite of it.
And then about 6 hours later, the fucking blood sugar come
back with revenge. Oh, the protein kick.
Oh, I did have a lot of meat. So it was a lot of fat, a lot of
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protein, and it was pretty much exactly spot on six hours on
dot. Mate, I had 4 pork chops.
Oh, black pork chops. That's a big old portion.
Though I had half a kilo of pork.
I'm a pig. Yeah, I was high all night,
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funny enough. That's not good pork.
Pork very fatty, but that's why.Yeah, it's so nice.
And we do that. We always put bread crumbs on it
as well. No sage and onion stuffing.
So stuffing and pork I felt stuffed my.
God stuff is never good with me.I'm all right, I think.
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I don't know. No.
But on my BBQ I think I I had what did I?
Me. You had sausages?
Yeah, you had burgers. You have chicken. 2 sausages, 1
burger, 2 Chinese chicken fries,4 minted lamb kebabs and just
some plain pasta with butter over it.
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That's very boring pasta. I like it.
Butter and pasta. Yeah, just plain plain pasta.
Bit of butter over it. Not even cheese.
No pasta. Oh right, The meat sounds
amazing though. What's what's wrong with my
pasta? Pasta just ain't worth the risk
of a high, you know? Sorry, it's not even.
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Exciting pasta, pasta all more out with pasta.
It's chicken. I've never said pasta so many
times in the past. Pasta, pasta, pasta, pasta,
pasta, pasta. Very, very bland no.
It's not actually a bit of salt and pepper.
Was it salted butter? Yeah, it's salted butter, and
then you put a bit of pepper over it.
Oh, we're adding some more ingredients now.
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Anything else? No, that's it.
Oh, you just killed it. This episode we was going to
talk about our sensors, but theyain't even coming into it.
You're going to have to wait till the end.
I'm sorry. This episode is sponsored by
WeChat, shit.com. Yes, and if that's a real
website, please do not go to it.You never know.
(09:25):
Now come and wipe them your sensors.
But I want to know. But first sensor I thought I'm
going to put it on the other armlike give give my arm a rest.
Waited an hour. No, it gave me that.
Wait 10 minutes for the glucose reading malarkey it usually
gives you. I thought, oh, this is going to
fail. Oh what?
Straight away as soon as it kicked in.
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Yeah, as soon as it kicked in, Iwas like, no, it's it's dead.
So it didn't kick in, it said. Then after the 10 minutes or 15
minutes it said replace sensor. So I was like, oh great, the
next one worked. I put it back on my other arm
and then next change put it on for I'll put it on the other arm
(10:07):
again, give it a break. Done the same thing.
I will warm up this time. It didn't give me the 10
minutes, it just said now replace it.
Oh, really? Yeah, I didn't even get the
tease. I didn't even get the tease.
It just said no, don't for all right.
And then obviously two weeks again, replace your sensor.
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I thought, right, I'm going to get this one, it's going to
work. I'm getting like an anxiety to
change my sensor. Now I'm scared to change my
sensor because I'm scared they're not going to work.
Oh, that's not good. I had three sensors left from my
prescription. I put on one, put it on a normal
alcohol wipe, put it on, boom. How I've always done it in all
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the years I've had sensors failed.
Replace sensor. I was thinking, so open up a new
box, get another one up, put it on my arm, wait an hour.
It worked so I went to bed. Cuts out at 3:00 in the morning.
Wake up, replace sensor. Oh.
(11:09):
Now I'm on my last sensor, it needs to work, so I put that one
on and lucky enough it worked. So I ended up having to get an
emergency prescription for sensor just in case this one
fails at some point or whatever.Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, so is that five? I think that's 5 No 4.
It's a lot of sensors bro. And then a few weeks before I
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had a needle stuck in the arm. One.
Don't remember that one. Oh yeah.
And that failed. The little sword.
Yeah, it's like a little toothpick, but yes, so it would
have failed. And as I said minute ago, I've
got like a fear of changing my sensor now because I've lost
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trust in it. Once it's on and working I I'm
fine with it. Yeah, yeah, it's.
Just that initial first. It's after warm up like so for a
whole hour I'm like praying please work, please work, please
work, please work. I think that's probably one of
the most stressful things that we have to go through as a
diabetic is when the tech that we rely on so, so much doesn't
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work how it's supposed to. It is just what one of the most
stressful things to try and overcome, yeah.
To people that are listening that are not diabetic, imagine
breaking both your ankles and going for a walk.
It's a bit much. No, it's not.
We can finger prick, but they'rejust crutches, aren't they?
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That's my analogy of it. Yeah, yeah, that's that's Mike's
analogy of the week. Yeah, there you go.
Tech fails is like breaking yourankles.
Live by that. So this week I've been walking
a. Load of loads of people keep
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recommending the debts comp. I'm saying that doesn't have as
much dropouts and as much signalfailure and this and that.
But our field is there's still going to be certain stresses
with the Dexcom, there isn't with the Libra and Vice.
Versa, it's like all thing. It's literally like Apple versus
Android with the Dexcom and oh. Yeah, yeah, they both do the
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same things, but they don't do the same things, if that makes
any sense. Like it's.
No, they don't. Do exactly the same thing, but
it's a different software? There you go.
Yeah, there you go. Literally that is all.
It is exactly the same thing, it's just a different chip.
Yeah, it's literally lines and dots.
Do you prefer dots or do you prefer lines?
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I actually quite like the look of the dats con graph because it
doesn't look as drastic. Every time I see a dats con
graph it looks so nice and smooth and then I look at mine
and it's just that fucking. Yeah, our 24 hour graph is
mental. Even if it's from like 4:00 to
7:00. It's like fuck me, did I go up
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that much? I.
Wonder if you can open it on like a 42 inch wide screen telly
It's just that don't look as bad.
I know I've been trying to open it on my computer, it won't let
me. Because it don't look as bad
when you go for your check UPS and they open it up on their
laptops and their PCs or whatever and they open it on the
screen. It doesn't look as drastic.
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No, I've. Because I remember they pulled
something out with me. It's like that.
That was yeah, go through. And I'm thinking I'm looking at
my phone like fuck me, that thatlooked like a really bad day on
my phone. It looks all right on there.
Yeah, that's what I mean. It's so deceiving.
They should add or rotate, but if you look at your graph on the
Libra app you should be able to rotate your phone.
(15:00):
Oh, like a landscape view? Yeah, that's what I mean.
Yeah. You just put it into words.
Yeah, well, I'm still we all over rotate, I don't know and.
I do you know what I I think loads of episodes before I
missed like your daily timing range.
Yeah. I miss it.
I miss it. But that used to send me loopy
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because I used to be chasing numbers all the time.
Yeah, but if your numbers, if your standard ain't set so high,
which it was back then. Yeah, that was because I was
scared of everything. Yeah, but your standard ain't as
high. Now it is but.
That is very true. So you're going to be more oh,
that's because I hate that. That's fine.
Yeah. What?
Yeah, yeah. Just like we've said, it's.
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Kind of weeks, guys. It's like having a cheat day,
like in a diet, OK, I'm not going to lose pounds that day.
Yeah. It's exactly the same.
Yeah, yeah. That is to say, it's it's all
experience in it. So yeah, I I would love to
redesign the Libra app love to, but apparently have you seen
(16:06):
this? Like the sneaky one that's going
about. More Sneaky 1.
I'll show it on TikTok. So basically you can silence
your alarms so that between a certain time point.
OK. There's loads of stuff to it.
I think daily timing range was back on it.
That's good, but they haven't rolled it out everywhere yet.
(16:27):
So if anyone has managed to get a hold of this app, I don't
know. I think the man was from China
or America. Oh, it's the actual Libra app.
Yeah, he found it in his store. So I couldn't find it and I
searched on my Android store. So I don't know if it's
obviously people have different phones, some of them main
Android, some of them main blah blah.
(16:47):
So they might be testing it on different stores if so to speak.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There definitely needs to be an
update on the Libra app because I would love dark mode.
What's all this Libra 2 plus talk as well what I'm hearing?
That is so they are compatible with pumps.
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OK, that's actually quite interesting, bro, Because that
is the one thing, like when I was going through shitty high
sugars all the time, like a couple of weeks ago, I was
thinking like, I might just get a pump.
Yeah, but that was one thing that was stopping me asking
because I knew I'd have to fuck around changing all the sensors
and shit. Yeah, So the pump the Libra 2
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Plus is compatible with is the TSlim X2.
That's one of them ones with thetubes on, innit?
I'm not sure. I'm sure the T Slim's got a
cannula and a tube. Oh, they're not ripping off in a
Bush. Yeah, you like bushes?
I. Don't like bushes, It's just
part of my job. Well, close enough.
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I had a bit of a mishap with a sensor.
Yeah, tell me more. Tell me more.
Oh, well, it this is it's and it's like I said at the
beginning, it was actually it's,it was my fault.
It's nothing to do with Libra. It's nothing to do with them
having anything to do with the product.
It was just me being me. So I've loaded my sensor up as
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you would normally plunged it down a little pop thing, pulled
it out. And since I've since I had that
needle protrude further than theblue line when it I had to stick
it in that one time, I always check.
So I looked and it the needle was slightly, slightly over.
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So I just put all the blue things just popped them out
because obviously it's like it'snot that because it's come back
out of the pot thing sort of. So just pulled them out and
they've gone click perfect in position.
Now that was the time me put thesensor on.
So that was loaded. Now it's that was loaded.
Ready to go. It's ready to go, Roth.
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So I carried on to inspect it. I don't know why.
I don't know what I was looking for.
I don't know what I wanted to dowith.
I don't know what I wanted to find.
But all of a sudden I was touching the blue part.
It just went click and the fucking whole thing's
disappeared and I just left withthe applicator and the lonely
(19:27):
sensor just sitting there. You disarmed your sensor.
I I disarmed the Libra sensor without blowing yourself up.
The world is safer now, guys. Yeah, court.
Honestly, if anyone wants to usecracker safe, here's the ring.
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I reckon I've got it. When you don't mean to.
Yeah, yeah, I'll just have to doit.
Just not look at it and be like just give it a slap, see what
happens. Pretend you're closing here and
they're actually open. Trying to catch you off guard.
(20:12):
So, yeah, don't play with your Libra sentences everyone,
because they might disarm themselves.
Yeah, because I, I did think when I, when I saw the blue
little parts disappear, I thought, oh, shall I just firm
it out and just go for it and just put it in.
I did like did cross my mind because you are essentially
doing that anyway. It's just that blue bit just
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creates a. The needle helps the finger into
your arm though, doesn't it? Yeah, but that's what I've
realised. I sort of looked at it and
thought, can I just plunge this in now because I thought the
needle was still there. Yeah.
But then as I've sort of like inspected it a bit more without
touching it this time good, I'verealised the needle would have
gone inside the pot with the blue bits, so it was just a
(20:57):
floppy bit of filament just whacking around do.
You reckon if you stuck it for to your tongue for an hour it
would read it I. Don't know.
Stick it to your tongue, dye it up.
It's. Still in the drawer.
Should I go and do it? Yeah, do it.
I want to know. Yeah.
Do it. So yeah, don't don't play real
Libra sensors everywhere. No, just put them on normally
(21:20):
and hopefully they work. Yeah, I've not had no problems
with that. Actually that's good.
Like as of yet. Until recent, nor have I, I've
always praised Libra. You know what I'm like.
I I still see them as my lifesavers.
Yeah. But recently, since all this
talk of the Plus has come out, it seems like they've cut back
(21:40):
on something. Like what have they cut back on?
What do you mean like all that? When iPhone brings a new one
out, they cut the softwares on the old ones.
Yeah, pretty much. I I reckon I've got a
discombobulated chip. I've started recycling them.
(22:01):
Maybe. No, I don't.
I thought that that was not. I don't know.
No, they definitely don't recycle, but not just to all.
All praise to Libra though, because they have replaced all
of my sensors that did not work.Oh.
That's good. They are really good with that.
Yeah, and they're actually sending me free Libra 2 pluses.
(22:21):
Oh wow. As a replacement from a Libra
twos, so do. Some.
I would have got 4 but I couldn't remember the code for
the other one so they wouldn't take it.
But on a little trick for anyonethat uses the Gluru app, you
know when they ask for your serial for your sensor, the
Gluru app stores each one and you can date back really far.
(22:44):
Oh, really? It's in your little the main
page diary bit. Never knew that.
No, I didn't either till I was looking at Gluru.
Well, you could have got your 4/1.
Yeah, I could have. Oh wow.
Have you still got Gluru jet? I've still got it, don't use it.
I found it was just another thing for me to look at.
Yeah, you like looking at thingsthough, don't you?
(23:05):
No, yeah, yeah. But I need to stop.
Well, my daily timing range today is 80.
Well, don't you? I haven't got that.
And there is fucking five peopleabove me.
So do you lot. I bet you got pumped.
I did have a little cute moment the other week I was having,
well, not me personally, but it was, it was Zoe.
(23:27):
She did make me smile. Yeah.
I was having a proper shit day, like one of my crap days.
I was having a really bad littlemeltdown bit and she just looked
at me and pushed my sensor and just went reset.
And like I just and just smiled at me and I'll just like it
really, really just made like I brought the biggest smile to my
(23:48):
face and it's just like, if onlyif it was that fucking easy,
man. Just a little.
Click shut down, reset. But maybe it did work, it was
just a bit delayed because you're a bit better now.
Yeah. So we say don't fiddle, we give
with your senses people, but just get that person to say
reset. No, to be honest, that probably
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made me bawl my eyes out Jack. So as much as I'm a piss taker
and a joker, I am probably one of the obvious people you meet.
Yeah, Yeah, he is. I have a good heart, but I'm a
piss taker. But yeah, that was, it was
really nice. It was just like a like oh wow,
(24:33):
if if only it was that fucking easy and I could just go reset.
No, that is nice. Start over again.
Start the day again. Makes me laugh when some girl at
work sometimes touches my arm. She still spazzes out whenever
she feels my sensor. Oh, oh, touch your sensor.
Oh, no, Oh, no, I'm like, it's fine.
(24:56):
She goes, but there's a needle. Doesn't the needle go in?
I'm like, no, it's OK. The needle's only when you put
it on. The other day we was in the
kitchen. See, this is how my wife goes
from nice to just evil. We was in the kitchen, we was
mucking around cooking dinner and I can't remember what I'd
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done. I think I put I think I shoved
her. She she bent over to get staying
at the cupboard and I'd just give her a little nut.
So she's like full over. She turned around and just
grabbed her spatula and just went whacked straight on the
side of my arm. Broth hit me, sensor full on
whacked my sensor. Was you a bit sensitive?
And yeah, it fucking hurt. Broth.
(25:39):
Like it really fucking hurt. It's a stung instantly.
I thought I you fucked it. She's I started playing on it.
She's gone. Are you all right?
I'm like, no, you really. I think you've broken my sense.
I think you've broke here. Like I guarantee that's going to
be cut out soon. You're so mean.
I'm only choking, don't worry. That's how teachers took me on a
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fucking arm. Wouldn't.
It you didn't say joke until after two hours.
You're horrible. But yeah, no, my my sensor
actually done a weird thing today.
I was sitting in the car. You know when you just sit down
in the car and you just have your alone time?
It's just to rest your mind. And I don't know what I do, why
I do it, but I just do it. Yeah, mine's usually the
(26:22):
bathroom. Yeah, mine's my car.
I literally just sit in my car and I just, I don't know where I
go. It's just a nice place.
And then I'll come back to reality, but I'll sit in there
and my arm was getting a bit hotbecause the sun was on me.
And then I looked at my I was going to drive.
And then I looked at my thing and it said sensor too hot.
(26:42):
I was thinking, oh. Do what?
Yeah, literally. I had like a little thermometer
next to it and it said sensor too hot.
I've never seen that before. Where the fuck did you go,
Tenerife for 10 minutes? No, just little car park mate.
Just fire slip, yeah? Oh shit, they know where I work
now. Oh shit yeah cut that out.
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Sorry, I forgot why that. I leave it in.
I like visitors, but yeah, any T1DS come down to Ruislip.
Rave it up. No, don't.
Don't, don't, don't. Do that.
No. If you do, give me a shout.
I'll come with you. Yeah, but yeah, it baffled me
(27:27):
because I was like, wow. I was like, oh, I'm driving home
now. Like I got bugged out.
I was like, I'm driving home, but I could go low, I could be
high. I don't know what I am.
I'm going done, a panic drove. It's a sign silly to get get the
fuck out of the car park and go home.
Go home, Michael. But all the time I've been
working outside in the heat and I've had like nothing on my
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sensor whatsoever and I've been like sweating absolute buckets
bro. Sunbathing in Turkey last year
when I was on holiday. Like I've never had a sensor too
hot. Yeah, nor have I I've been on
sunbeds of sunbathed as well. Nothing.
And. That's mad.
Maybe it's the car, maybe it's the window of the car enhancing
(28:12):
the heat. Or maybe it's like a magnifying
glass, like when used to kill the ants.
I need to watch Honey I Shrunk the Kids tonight.
Or ants. No, don't watch ants.
Sad. Bug life.
Bug's life. Oh my God, that was so good.
That's like the Caterpillar, theGerman one.
(28:32):
Let's. Send.
It to a beautiful bottle flash. Right, right guys, We hope
you've enjoyed this episode. It's time for me and Jack to
transform. There will be less waffling
coming up. We have got guests planned
(28:55):
everyone, so stay tuned for. That they might already be
recorded. Who knows?
But yeah, we're, we're going to aim for one a month or if we
record too many, there'll be a couple a month because yes.
Let's face it, Mike, it all depends on whether we can find
things to talk. About that beautiful
(29:18):
butterflies. Yeah, we just get to guess.
A month on could be easier. We can find enough.
Yeah, we'll be all right for twomonths.
But yeah, if you're listening and you want to be a guest on
our podcast, get in touch, please.
Yeah, the e-mail is in the description of the podcast, so
(29:39):
just e-mail us. Yeah, it's only a it's, it's
just like a 2 day vigorous interview training course and
then you get put into a boot camp and then me and Mike will
decide Adam and Deck will present the whole thing and then
you might be in a chance of winning.
What do I win? A place on a podcast.
(30:00):
Oh my God, I so want to be on a podcast.
Oh, shot the guest. Jack, pick me.
Diabetes. He's Got Talent.
Could you imagine? That's a good, that's a good
brand, bruv. He starts a little YouTube.
There we go, me and Jack, with the ideas that we don't execute,
(30:23):
ever. No, this podcast is pretty much
just ADHD in 45 minutes. Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah. And guys, we'll be back.
Where will when will we be back,Jack?
We will be back same time, same place next week and next week we
(30:43):
will have someone extra. No, we won't.
No, it's not next week. I don't know what's he's on.
I don't know what's. Going on same time, same place,
bye bye. Bye.
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