June 28, 2025 • 48 mins
This week on We Are T1D, Mike and Jack welcome a very special guest — actor and Waterloo Road star Olly Rhodes — for a refreshingly honest, funny, and relatable chat about life with Type 1 diabetes.
From spotting the first signs of T1D during a football match to navigating acting roles with an insulin pump tucked under his costume, Olly shares it all: the highs, the hypos, and the hilarious misconceptions (yes, someone thought he was tagged by police because of his pod!).
Whether you're newly diagnosed or a long-time warrior, this episode is a reminder that while diabetes never takes a day off, it also brings unlikely friendships, hard-earned wisdom, and a few free snacks along the way.
In this episode:
⚽ Olly's diagnosis story – including the football match moment that changed everything
🎬 His journey into acting – how boredom, drama class, and a brilliant teacher sparked a career
💉 Pump life on set – from CGMs and costumes to keeping in range under studio lights
👨👩👧👦 Family support done right – how his mum’s T1D experience shaped his own
🔥 Tech talk – Dexcom, Omnipod 5, auto-adjustments, and the freedom it brings
😅 Burnout, rebellion, and Jaffa Cakes – the realities of living with T1D long-term
🍽️ Ultimate dream meal – Olly’s 3-course fantasy dinner (spoiler: it includes wings and tiramisu!)
🎥 T1D in TV – what a real, honest diabetic storyline could look like on screen
🎙 Featured Guest:
Olly Rhodes
Actor, Type 1 diabetic, and host of Going For A Take 🎬
👉 Follow him on social media: @ollyrhodes_
🎧 Check out his podcast on YouTube & Spotify: Going For A Take
📩 Email: wearet1dpodcast@gmail.com
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📸 Instagram: @t1d_mike & @t1d_jack
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(00:00):
Welcome back to the We Are T1D podcast.
And guys, we've got a special guest and he's actually from the
telly. He's probably This is probably
the most professional episode we've ever come up with.
I don't think it will be. No, I don't even.
(00:21):
It's free mates down the pub allright.
And one of them some of you might know very well.
His name is Ollie Rhodes. What from Ollie Rhodes, How are
we doing? You right.
Yeah, good. Thank you for having me.
Cheers. Not a.
Problem. It's a pleasure.
It's nice to have you on. Thank you.
Yeah, No, I'm looking forward toit.
I'll be good. I'm glad you're looking forward
to it, right? Welcome to the We Are T1D
(00:45):
podcast. The Realist Type 1 Diabetes
podcast online hosted by myself Mike diagnosed at the age of 10.
And myself, Jack diagnosed at the age of 30.
We are just two mates giving youan insight into life with this
chronic condition. Yes, we are adults and although
we try not to swear, it may happen occasionally.
(01:07):
Yeah, as Jack said, we are adults, but please take what we
say as guidance and not medical advice.
No, trust me, we are not doctors.
We are just here to make sure notype 1 diabetic ever, ever feels
alone. Obviously you're type 1.
I didn't actually know you as Type 1 when I saw you on
Waterloo roads. Oh yeah, guys, he's from
(01:29):
Waterloo Road. I forgot to say as well.
Yeah, I've been been Taiwan for 13 years now, 14 maybe, maybe 15
a while. Longer than Jack.
Yeah. So you're well experienced.
How long have you had it? I was diagnosed 2 1/2 years ago.
(01:49):
Oh, Matt, you're a newbie. Yeah, proper newbie, proper
newbie. I'm still learning.
I'm still learning. My my also Type 1, so I sort of
grew up around it and knew aboutlike jazz.
So when I got diagnosed, it wasn't really, I'm told,
anything new kind of thing. Yeah.
I suppose that helped though. Yeah, a little bit.
(02:12):
It definitely helped me get the diagnosis.
Like I I spent less than a day. Yeah.
Of course. Diagnosed like the next.
Day in and out. I wasn't, I wasn't even I'll
like I we caught it so fast because the symptoms were so
obvious. I was just like, yeah, I've got
it. Well that's good.
Fuck has kept me in there for four days.
(02:32):
Yeah, I've got, I've got friendswho have been like who, who
spent like 3 weeks in. Hospital.
Oh wow. Oh.
Wow. Because of literally they like
people didn't know what was wrong with them, so they were
just like. Fucking just stabbing in the
dark, don't know what's going on.
Yeah. So where did it all start for
you Ollie? Then what?
What was your proper diet out like?
(02:52):
You say you spotted the symptomsearly, so obviously that was a
good thing. Yeah, so the story is so I used
to be part of a Sunday league football team, just as all kids
are coached by, which was great because it meant that he was
just there on the day. Yeah, that's good.
That's nice. And it was mid match and my
energy just completely went and I just we have no idea what was
(03:15):
going on. So dad took me off, sort of SAT
me down. I had, I had a bit of just juice
and some I think things from Jaffa Cakes.
And then like 15 minutes later Iwas feeling absolutely fine.
So I went back on. Yeah, 15 minutes after that went
just absolutely 0 energy again. And so my dad obviously having
married into Kobe, he's sort of went, this feels a little bit
(03:40):
fishy. Went home, did a blood test with
my mum. It saw that I was a stupid
level. I can't remember if it was high
or low. And we immediately was front.
Yes, right. Like hospital, let's go.
And then didn't even have to every night because they were
like, well, you're diabetic. If anything happens, you know
what to do. Fucking have have a good night.
(04:03):
Yeah. Like they took like main bloods
to do the actual test. And then like you sent me up and
I spent the night at home, went back in the next day and got
officially diagnosed. Wow, wow.
And got a load of free, a load of free merch.
So you know, great. It was like Christmas Day for
me. It's like opposite of traumatic
(04:26):
for me. I know so many people have
really bad experiences getting diagnosed, but I'm like not
great. It was so ingrained in our like
normal everyday family life thatI went to hospital one day and
came home with like 3 different teddies, a load of books and a
few gadgets like. The proper part of the family
now. They enrolled me with Buzzing.
(04:47):
Does your dad feel left out thenor?
Yeah, no, I think he he's definitely, he's not got those
tinted glasses. He's very keyed up with the
realities of it. I don't think he he feels like
he's missing out at all. Are.
You are you as are you as happy now still with your diagnosis or
is it like, oh in diabetes? Swings A roundabout to that
(05:13):
like. Yeah, of course it does.
Yeah, Yeah, it does for everyone, I think.
Yeah, like some days I'm like, oh, yeah, this is great.
Kind of like sets me apart from the majority of people.
And like, you can also, it's just like it's given me all
these skills to go through life with and sort of made me grow up
very fast. But then in the same breath,
it's like fucking. It's diabetes, isn't it?
(05:33):
It's horrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bit of sweet. Yeah, like.
Emphasis on the sweet. Yeah, I definitely go through
phases of burnout still, and that probably will never stop.
But you know, we move. No, no, I think that's just a
thing that comes with it. It gets tiring.
(05:56):
Yeah, exactly. So when did you start like your
acting and stuff like that, thenwhen did that come into play
with it? Because I bet that was a big
step with obviously your Type 1 going on to make that plunge to
go forward and start doing things like that.
So obviously, hold on, why did where do I start this story?
(06:16):
I was like that, right? I'll be honest, I was bored.
I was just a bored kid in summerand all my ex were on holiday.
So I was like mum, what can I doto kill the time?
And she sort of went on Facebookclubs in other groups, saw that
a local theatre company was putting on the show.
So she was just like, go do that.
That will eat up your days. That will get you out of the
(06:37):
house for a couple of weeks. Went went down.
Try auditions. For some fucking reason, I'm not
very good. But then but yeah, I got I've
got a part which I was gassed with and then just fell in love
with it and sort of eventually ended up stopping my football
(07:01):
matches because my acting classes were clashing.
OK, I love acting more so I'm just going to move over.
To that, well, as I said, I'll bet that I was going to sell,
but there come a time where you had to choose sort of what path
you wanted to go down. Yeah, exactly.
And so, so I moved over to acting and then a couple of
(07:21):
years after that, I sort of went, oh, no, I actually think I
want to do this as a career. It's not just fun anymore.
It's like genuinely what I want to do.
And then my drama teacher Miss Williams just set me on the
path. Genuinely, without her would not
be where I am now. That's.
Nice. That's nice.
Thank you, Beckham Williams, if you're listening.
(07:43):
Yeah, that's nice. That's nice thing.
It's Joe. It always comes like something
when when you do something from such a young age, it is always
down to sort of like 1 teacher that makes that major impact on
your life. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
And like I, I'd not been professional for that lot.
I've been professional since first year of sick form.
So that's what, 1617. So in terms of like other actors
(08:08):
who have been also been doing itsince they were a kid, like I'm,
I'm still new. I'm still very, very like I
start because I didn't even start performing on stage in an
amateur capacity until I was about 12:13 for epoch.
So like I'm still learning, likestill, still learning.
Every job that I do, I'm like, Ipick something new because I
(08:31):
didn't train either. I didn't go to drama school or
anything like that. So.
Yes. So acting is like diabetes.
It's forever learning. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And like sometimes you're the busiest person in the world and
never get a debt on. And then other times it's like
now that I'm in a slump, I'm like got no job.
So I'm just like, go on a job. Like you know what I mean?
(08:56):
I'm sure you'll get there. I'm sure you'll get there.
Yeah, it's coming too. Hopefully.
That's good. So when you when you're doing
your acting and all that, have you ever had like a really bad
hypo like mid set? No, to be honest, because the
adrenaline spikes me so I'm always, I'm always rocking
probably at least low teens mostof the time when I'm on set.
(09:19):
Which Sultan is listening? No, I'm not.
I'm I'm 6.5 the entire. That's the fake log book we
have. I never got this privilege with
the fake log book. All everyone all you lot keep
telling me, oh we used to fake our log books.
I didn't get that. They didn't even fucking ask for
mine. I don't like it's all an app
(09:40):
now, you can't even lie about it.
But yeah, no, it's, I try and aim to be a little bit higher
just because I can, I feel like I can function high.
I can't function when I'm low. And obviously in a in an
environment on set where time ismoney in.
Yeah, of course. Yeah.
Like you. Don't want to be a liability
(10:01):
like. Obviously I don't want to be
riding too high because I don't want to deal with ketones and
jet then feeling like shit and everything like that, but.
Yeah, yeah. Sort of being in that middle,
mid, mid highs is like where I'dsort of like to be when I'm on
set. Yeah.
No, that's good. That's good.
So have you ever had like an outburst then because you're
high? An outburst.
(10:21):
Like anything really, you know when you're high little things
like like they nick at you like.Oh, yeah?
Well, no, because you've got to be dead nice to everybody.
Come on. You are good at acting, aren't
you? Well, The thing is as well,
everybody's been up. Like everybody who was on set
(10:42):
that day most likely has been upsince like five, 6:00 in the
morning. So everybody's already knackered
and already feeling a little bitlike, yeah, I mean, get away
from me, leave me alone. Or at the same time, we're all
there because we absolutely loveit.
So I think there's a mutual understanding amongst everybody
that like, just don't, just don't mess with people
(11:04):
unnecessarily and we'll all get along and stand most of the
time. It's pretty fresh, pretty nice.
Yeah, that's nice. It's not like my environment
where everyone comes in stressedshout at each job.
It's like if, if you stressed, alot of the time it's like
everybody hides it. You, it's it's somebody else's
job to stress about it probably.So let them.
(11:26):
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For a job with no
responsibilities. I love that.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't do my job properly then
the entire like you know, out ofthe things to stress about, what
I have to stress about is very menial compared to everybody
else. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know. So sorry, you said you're it's
(11:48):
on your phone now. What are you on?
Are you on Libra or Dexcom? I'm on Dexcom now.
I'm on the closed loop with the Omni pod.
Closed loop. Is that is that the Omni Pod 5?
Is it the new? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is.
That how does that help you? Because I'm so close to asking
about it, but I have to. I don't know whether to take the
(12:09):
plunge yet. What are you on right now?
I haven't got a pump. You're on injections.
I'm on injections yet. Are you?
Are you an athlete as well? Like do you?
Do you? Work out a lot and like he
pretends to. No, I haven't.
Even if I don't go to the gym, Iam basically at the gym whilst
I'm at work. All right.
How often do you go low? I don't know quite, I'm not not
(12:31):
like it dips off quite a bit butI've had my alarm set quite high
so I always catch it before it goes too low so I don't really
have a hypo. The puddle stop that basically
like you just you won't dip because it'll it'll auto adjust
according to your activity level.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
And it's during the night as well.
I tend to go really high during the night.
(12:51):
Or counter that and catch it before you even go up.
It's it's brilliant and it's so handy.
Like I it's bad but I barely shake my bloods and like because
I don't need to. No, but that's the good thing,
though. At least you don't like you
don't have to if. If the technology's that good,
then you can rely on it that much.
I can just trust it. Like today I went a little bit
(13:12):
high. Was that this morning?
Oh, no, that was midnight last night, right.
So from from today audio people,I am showing my graph from today
like pretty much banging range all day until I ate a Yeah but
like, you know. That's pretty much spot on.
I haven't checked it all day so I'm just like, I'm chilling.
And then also like with acting and everything, when you don't
(13:35):
get chance to shake your bloods and everything on set because
you're not really allowed on your phone and also you wear
costumes that might be layers upon layers upon layers.
Just having it self-contained the controller by Bluetooth like
it's so useful. I don't even think about that
sort of thing. But yeah, I suppose that is
like, it's a game changer in that aspect, isn't it?
(13:56):
You think you've got to do an injection?
You've got to do a full on costume change just to.
We want to win. Dress for an injection, not me.
That's why I love summer and shorts.
Subtle pymes it's it depends on the job as well, because
sometimes with acting it's like I go back on injections, but.
(14:16):
OK. That's if I'm wearing thinner
clothing, like if I'm wearing lots and lots of T-shirts, or if
I'm doing it seems like continuity, I'd need to not have
it on my body because if it's moving every three days and I'm
filming one week, it's like I can't have that jumping around.
Yeah, yeah. Of course.
(14:38):
Might not be diabetic so it's like I need to get rid of it.
So some like depending on the job I will go back on the
injections for a month or two but it's now for that long and I
am happier when I'm on my pod. Yeah, I was just about to say
what what do you prefer? But obviously the pump.
But that's a blessing, isn't it?You can actually choose.
(14:58):
Yeah, it's lovely. Like I just go to my
consultants, like I'm starting anew job.
Can you let me know what my doses should be for my
injections? And then it takes, it takes like
a day to fully transition because of like insulin not
being fully absorbed and everything like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you're on injections,
you have to do your long lastingback again and I assume.
(15:20):
Yeah, but then I think, I can't remember exactly how it worked,
you have to take your pod off and then not have anything for a
few hours at least before you have your long acting injection.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Crash and you won't come up and
same the other way is like you can't if you're transitioning
(15:43):
from injections to pod. I think you have to have your
last long acting injection and then skip the next one and wait
a day but still have your fast acting before you actually put
your pump on. OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense.
It's like chat to your doctor about it.
I'm not a medical professional. I'm I'm winging it.
Do you know what this is what I like having conversation with
(16:05):
people like this because I wish and I hope we have people that
aren't diabetic that listen to the podcast just to learn some
things. But this is the sort of shit and
the admin work that normal people don't realise we have to
fucking go through on a day-to-day basis just to simply.
Exist. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
(16:26):
And like, oh God, the decision fatigue at the end of the day.
Like I cannot, I can't make decisions at the end of the day.
No, no, I give up about 8:00. My wife asked me questions like
just shut up. It's quiet time.
I've had enough. I'm a girlfriend because she's
like, what? What do you want for dinner?
I don't care what do you want? And she's just I can't make a
(16:48):
decision. You make a decision.
I can't basically. I thought it's a me thing.
It's a diabetes thing, yeah. It must be white or or it could
be a man thing. Let's say, let's say, let's say.
I mean, what is this about? Think about the amount of
decisions that you're making, like before you've even eaten
breakfast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's crazy. It's crazy.
(17:09):
And just the amount of pure thinking.
Especially if you're on injection, it's like like the
the pod for me has taken a lot of decision making out for me.
It does it itself. I I'm very broad strokes now
with it and I'm I'm. Going to.
Run. I tell it when I'm eaten.
That's pretty much it. It does everything else but for
injections it's like you've got to think like 5 decisions down
(17:31):
the line like it's. Yeah, What am I going to be
doing in a couple of hours? What am I have?
I got a like when I'm at work, that's exactly for that.
For instance, I need to gauge how much work I'm going to be
doing after I have my insulin for my lunch.
And sometimes I just don't even eat lunch because it's just, I
know I'm so busy and I'm so active, I can't be bothered to
throw that in the mix. I'll just crack on.
(17:54):
Much appetite sometimes. And it's like, you know, yeah.
Literally, yeah. I'll just eat when I get home.
It's easier. And I can monitor it more
closely and just like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, literally.
So there's there's one question that keeps standing out to me.
We've got like a list in front of us, by the way.
Yeah, I know. We're just picking at them.
There's one that keeps coming out.
(18:15):
It's because we're talking aboutyour acting.
If you could show the realities of like T1D through like a
storyline as such, what what would it be there?
Oh, like what would the storyline be?
Yeah, like, yeah. How would you like portray on a
like ATV show or something? You know what there is ATV show
that did it really well. It it's really old, not really
(18:38):
old, but it was it was when I was a kid, like a proper kid.
I know I'm still quite it's called it was called the sparkle
mystery and it's like set in this post apocalyptic world
where all the adults are paid off the planet, but it's left a
load of kids around. So they're driving about trying
to survive. And one of the characters in
that is Taiwan diabetic. And part of the plot line is
(19:00):
that they have to keep moving togo to different pharmacies to
get fresh insulin for him. Oh, wow, so accurately.
And like every now and then they'll they'll have left it a
bit too long and he'll genuinelyrun out of insulin.
And he's got like, really realistic, like portrayals of
ketoacidosis and like also just really bad hypos and like, it's
weaved into the story really well and really realistically.
(19:25):
So like it is possible in terms of what I would do, Sorry.
What is that? What?
What was that called? Because I want to have, I want
to have a look at that. It's called the Spartacle
Mystery. I'll, I'll.
Type in the chat. Yeah, perfect.
I'm not sure where you can watchit now because.
It's I'll find it. Here, ask me.
I old and I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, Mike will find it.
(19:49):
I can't remember which season itis that he's introduced, it
might be the first one. I think they did a few seasons,
but it's it's still the best sort of portrayal of it that
I've ever seen. Why do I feel like he didn't
survive? No, no, we did.
It was a kid. I did I come on Christ.
(20:11):
But it's it's back when CBBC didlike proper drama.
So it was like Merlin era. It was.
It was dead. Good.
Yeah. Yeah, I would recommend that to
anybody who wants to watch a genuine portrayal of bot
diabetes is like. I'll definitely if I can find
it. I'm definitely checking that
out. Yeah, it was really good.
(20:32):
I can't. I genuinely, I don't think I can
answer you right now, but I am sort of starting to direct and
make my own stuff. So the chances of it actually
happening? Oh, really?
OK. What what would you guys have?
Why are you flipping it? Why?
I'm I'm going to make it so you guys have to you.
(20:52):
Can tell. You can tell he's media train,
can't you? Right.
What? What would your storyline beats
be? I'd make it as relatable as
possible, so. Yeah, yeah, like I just want to
keep it as real and real as possible.
Super emotional, super this I'm going to have a kid getting
(21:14):
diagnosed and that's. Just click bait.
Yeah, I know. This is what I want people to
watch this, right? So obviously he's going to feel
so isolated. He's going to go through school,
he's maybe getting bullied as well.
And then I'm going to get my dadto Chuck him in a canal.
Yeah, right. OK.
What? On the road, Yeah.
No, I'm talking no. Sounds quite familiar.
(21:45):
And it would be just connection.It's like as real as possible
and it would end well. But storyline it would
definitely be your child's perspective of diabetes though.
OK, yeah. What does ending well look like
though? Yeah.
The condition that at the momentdoesn't have a cure and
(22:05):
realistically doesn't change. It's acceptance.
I would call it the battle of acceptance.
OK, so it's, it's the initial stages of getting diagnosed,
sort of battling with it and then realising, Nah, this is
just my life. Yeah, so basically, like, you
get it, You you kind of just dealing with it.
Then like adolescence, you just rebel against everything.
(22:29):
It's but actually it's just my life.
Little Michael in school, yeah. Yeah, no, it's a hard question,
all right. Yeah, there you go.
(22:51):
What's the weirdest or funniest thing that someone's ever said
to you about diabetes? Oh, it actually happened today.
I've never had this before. So I work, I work in in schools
at the moment as like a pay the bills job and a teaching
assistant. And I was wearing a short
sleeved shirt because it's it's like 25° in the UK at the
moment. One of the kids at the end of
(23:13):
the day came up to me and was like, we were chatting about you
earlier. Are you tagged?
Like what do the police like keep keep?
Because obviously I've got my pod just out.
Thought it was cracking device. It's like, no, it's nothing.
I'm called Race. Your street, your street credits
gone through the roof can. You wear your pod on your leg,
(23:39):
no? Actually like it was on my arm
and I don't remember what he thought, but like then you
really want to. That is a weird one.
That is a weird one. Yeah, I've had nicotine patch.
Yeah, I. I saw something online the other
day that someone got asked why have you got Airpods on the back
of your arm? Oh yeah, I used to have that a
lot. Well, that that was always my
frame of reference as well. Whenever somebody asked about
(24:01):
the pod and like they couldn't see it, they were like, how big
is it? Like Airpods?
Yeah, I was. Yeah.
That's a good, that's actually agood way of putting it, because
then people can just do something.
It's an everyday thing they can put into perspective.
Yeah, the other other classic 1 is like on with my old pumps.
I used to have a Medtronic 64EG I think it was which was one of
the wired ones. People that was a pager used to
(24:24):
think I was a doctor or something like you are like
coming out of it, like you just thought I was listening to music
all the time. Yeah.
It's mad, isn't it? Can't even think about that.
You think what it was like back in the day to have one of them
and wired headphones? Didn't you see the first one?
It was like a big rucksack. Oh yeah, the first ever isn't,
(24:46):
Yeah. But I, I always imagine like my
mum growing up had like the proper heroin style needles,
like the proper syringes, like well, you had.
To like sort of draw it out of the vial and then put it in.
Pens like glass syringes, but like.
Awful can. You imagine doing that in
(25:06):
public, No. No.
People used to think like my pens were like a really fancy
vape that I'd just whip out in school.
And it's like, are you vaping? No, I'm not.
No, I never even would go. Around that.
So what's we've done? Weirdest thing.
(25:27):
So what's one of your proudest moments that you've ever had
since you've been diagnosed? Now what's what?
One thing you've done and you'vegone.
Do you know what? Yeah.
Fuck it. I'm proud to be diabetic that
I've done that. In college there were a couple
of moments. So by this point I've been
diabetic for like 11-12 years and I met one of my best
(25:51):
friends, the Evie. She was newly diagnosed.
Like literally now, she was three months after getting
diagnosed when I met her and so like the whole of first year was
like sort of sharing all of my bad habits with her and just
like, Oh no, you're fine, don't worry about it.
Come on. Sounds like you and me, Mike.
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It does actually. Mike and just sort of teaching
her the ways of the diabetes. That was quite hard to it's like
built a very solid friendship off of that as well, which very
sweet. And then also in second year in
college, there was a guy in first year who just started who
(26:36):
was also pretty newly diagnosed,but he was like quite
embarrassed about it and really nervous about doing things in
public around his classmates andlike letting it affect his work
and everything like that. And me and Evie like got called
up to just chat to him in a classroom one day and just be
like, mate, like reality check. This is your life now you've got
(26:58):
to live with it. But there is no reason to feel
ashamed or embarrassed. Like, this is just what's what?
Actually, this is actually quitecool because it's it means that
you get to have snacks in class Mint.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, what nice thing to do
though. Yeah, like you get to take your
backpack into concerts when youryour mates can't, so you're
always prepared like you've got all this shit.
(27:21):
There is some perks to this isn't it?
Yeah, it's like you, you get to get your phone out in class
sometimes if you want, like you know, you're but and it's
important to find those Silver Linings because otherwise you'll
drive yourself mad because like,yeah, it is shit sometimes, but
at the end of the day, you've got to keep going and it's not
going to go away if you ignore it.
(27:42):
So that was that was nice as well.
And that made me feel quite goodabout myself.
Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well done. All right, That's really nice
thing. No, it is because I because no I
related to it a lot because of Jack.
Yeah, that was basically our story, pretty much.
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I've got, I've not. We've known each other for ages,
years and years and years, and we lost contact.
And then when I first got diagnosed, he was the first.
I was like, fuck me, Mike. He's he's diabetic.
I'm not. I used to inject in the staff
room. I know he is.
So I've text him when I was literally in the hospital and
told him I've got diabetes. And then since then, that was
(28:23):
it. We got back in contact.
He taught me the ways as, like you said, all the bad habits and
yeah, we started all of this together.
How long have you had it then Mike out of the cat. 02028 years
this year. Matt and how old are you?
When did you get diagnosed? Yeah, I'm only 28.
(28:45):
No, I'm I'm 38. Right, OK.
Oh, you got it the same time as me.
There's ten. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Nice.
There's like everyone seems to get around 9:00 and 10:00 or 30.
Yeah. And then there's a few outliers,
but those are not dead weirdos. Yeah.
(29:07):
That is very true. There's a lot of people
diagnosed in their 30s, isn't it?
Yeah. I think the, the numbers are
starting to fluctuate a lot moreas well.
I'm not sure what's causing it. Well, nobody knows what causes
it in the first place, but like the it's like occurring in
teenagers more and more and moreas well as getting older and
older. Like it's just it's common.
(29:29):
We would well. Back in the day, it was just
juvenile diabetes, weren't it really?
Yeah. And if it if you didn't get
diagnosed as a kid, then it was,it was, it just wasn't that.
It was something else else, but yeah, diagnosed.
Why was I going to say Part 2? It's not.
It's the same thing, right? So you said you was diagnosed at
(29:53):
10 like me. I'm curious to your teenagers,
did you hit a really rebellious stage like I did, or?
Yeah, there was a stage of getting my own money from a
weekend job and just buying sweets and then not borrow us in
for them because that's it. Yeah, out of a record that I've
eaten these sweets. OK, yeah, we're quite similar
(30:15):
them because I used to eat big packs, Tang, Fastix, just eat
them. Whatever I wanted, just eat
pretty much. Yeah, that was, that's.
Mad because that even now like I'm quite experienced I like to
think that scares me bro just thinking about eating packs and
packs sweets like I'm like fuck that I'm not even doing that.
(30:39):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It wasn't the best, was it?
But you know, we leave. I do regret it now.
No regrets. Don't live life with no regrets.
Don't. The skinniest I've ever been?
No, I can admit that. I was the opposite.
I wouldn't. I got big.
Oh, is it? Yeah, I I got quite chunky and
(31:00):
then started running and then lost it all.
Congratulations. So what do you drink?
I used to, not anymore. I just totally.
Yeah, since just before Christmas, So however many
months, that is five, just over 5 months.
(31:20):
Oh nice, how you finding it? Better it's it's interesting on
a night out. I take more of an adjustment for
my mates to be honest. But yeah, no, I I prefer it.
It's better and also life is just so much cheaper.
Yeah, yeah, I I quit for a while.
I think I've done. How long did I do Jack?
(31:42):
I think you've done nearly a year bro, to be fair.
No, I don't think it's that long.
Oh, I was trying to pick you up there, bro.
I did until my brother's wedding, and then halfway
through the wedding I was like, Nah, that's it, I'm done.
Yeah, actually I vaguely remember you sending me a
picture of a pint one night and you just went.
It's not a non alcoholic one. But no, I used to, I used to
(32:07):
drink of not not massive mass, but like a fair bit with
everything, especially whilst I was filming because I had no
other expenses. So I was just like, that's kind
of like decompressing with my, with my colleagues.
Co stars. I hate the word Co star.
Yeah, ever. Co stars of Waterloo, just like
(32:28):
decompressing within in the in ahotel lobby.
And it's like that was our only expense.
So yeah. Oh wow, do you drink all the 0
alcohol or you just don't like diet and.
The only 0 alcohol thing that I drink is gin and I call it gin,
but everything else I don't really see the point in.
(32:51):
No, see, I'm with you on that one.
Yeah, I I mean, I didn't like beer to begin with.
Don't like beer, just don't likethe taste of it.
I really did like wine, but I can't.
I can't do myself into having non alcoholic buying, it just
wouldn't be the same might as. Well, just have a vimto.
(33:11):
So it's like, I'd much rather have have the nice memories of
like nice wine and not not ruin it with no alcoholic wine.
That's good. Well done.
Now what? Was wine like with blood sugars
then is that is that? Is that quite shit or is it
quite running? To be fair, like I, I don't want
(33:31):
to say it stabilized me, but it definitely didn't I.
Think beer is the worst for blood sugars by far.
Beer is just red in it, red in apint.
Do you know? I've never actually heard it put
that way before, but that is fucking brilliant.
It. Is.
(33:52):
Yeah, it is literally, isn't it juice?
Ferment juice. I love that.
I love that that's what I'm calling it from now on.
Yeah, can I get a cup of bread juice?
Oh, that is. Great.
Yeah, I'm not a big drinker, butwhen I do, I drink spirits
(34:14):
rather than beers. Yeah, that's that's where my
priorities used to be as well. Yeah, I'm, I'm a, I'm a Brandy
kind of man. Brandy.
With Brandy, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not straight, yeah.
With, well, Coke 0 actually. Oh, Coke Zero, Yeah.
(34:35):
Did you ever have any scary moments with alcohol like
growing up, or was it sort of quite easy to manage?
Or did you always make sure you ate something?
No real scary moments. I think again because mum sort
of brunted the hardness of it all with her though, she was
able to just pass on any lessonsthat she learned to me and I
(34:58):
went around. I don't have a bad experience
now there's obviously the obligatory, you know, first time
you get absolutely hammered as ateenager experience, which is
never nice for anybody. But you know, even even though I
don't think that messed up my bloods that much, I think the
(35:18):
thing that messed me up the mostwith alcohol when I was drinking
was just going low at like 3:00 in the morning.
Like I've been been gone to bed and then I'd crash later on
because I hadn't then go something like that that that
those were the only like momentswhere I was like, oh, this is
rubbish. Well, I never never really had
(35:38):
any scares with it. No, that's good.
That's a good thing. Yeah, an all right relationship
with, with that whole side of things.
Like I say, you're so you're just such a lucky person to have
that like your mum to look up toand guide you as such.
Like from such a young age, likeliterally bang your diagnose and
then the same day you're home with your mum giving you full on
(36:00):
lessons on what to do and learn how to crack on.
I've never really had to wait that long for any, any bit of
like gear or anything because mum knows like what to ask for
and how to ask for it, which means that you get it there and
then and it's like great, sorted.
Can I have a word with her afterthis?
(36:26):
Wait, I've just got a weird scenario in my head.
So say like your mum's cooked dinner and all that.
Does she give you the carb countwhen she gives it to you?
She. Used to, yeah.
So like my Pat lunches in primary school, Like she'd
write, write in whiteboard pen on the inside of the lunch box,
the carbs for everything. Oh, that's nice.
I. Saw a cheap code, didn't you?
(36:47):
Yeah, eventually, like with withthe evening meals, like whilst I
was learning to carb count, she'd be like, and how much is
this worth and how much is this worth?
And I'd I'd have to add it up orshe'd tell me what each is worth
and then I'd have to add it up in my head.
Yeah, yeah. That's wicked.
Well, eventually I could just doit without eating.
You had your own personal carbs and cows growing up.
Basically, yeah. That's wicked.
(37:09):
That is honestly that is. Yeah, that's just.
That's just my bad. That's just mad.
I'm just jealous. Quite lucky with it, yeah.
And I used to just get bowls of wheat VIX.
You'll go low. But yeah, well, well might
(37:29):
mention food. So this is the big, big
question. All right.
I'd rather ask every single person that comes on this
podcast and it is take diabetes out of question, whatever.
Don't worry about diabetes. What is your go to three course
meal? And it could be anything.
You can have three starters, youcan have three mains, whatever
(37:50):
you want. Right, I want AI want a like
asterisk this with it changes this this meal, OK.
Yeah. You're different in a month's
time. Yeah, OK.
That's fine. This is what I'm feeling at the
moment. So starter salt and pepper,
calamari A. Little bit squid.
Very good, very good. Probably with like like really
(38:13):
nice garlicky sauce that they dowith it.
I don't even know what it. Is it's like.
Yeah, mains can't really go wrong with it.
Like a proper fillet steak, sweet potato fries and
cauliflower cheese with a side of side of Buffalo wings as
well. Yes, yes, we love the wings.
From Blues Kitchen in Manchester, they are the best
(38:36):
thing I've ever put in my mouth.Sorry that's a clip for you.
And as a dessert, tiramisu, because I love.
Yes. And just everything about
tiramisu is just glorious, isn'tit?
Yeah, it is absolutely there. There is.
(38:57):
I still haven't been since I've been diagnosed, but there's a
London Italian restaurant that does tiramisu and when you order
it as your dessert, they will bring it out to you in a big
dish that they've prepared freshin the kitchen and literally
just scoop it out of the bowl and straight in front of you.
And it's just honestly, every time it is to die for.
Like sweet lasagna. It's so good, dude.
(39:19):
Oh. Yeah.
Sweet lasagna. Love it.
It's a starry and it comes in layers.
It's got dairy. It's perfect.
That's a pretty good meal. Yeah, it does.
That is a really good move. I think that's up there with a
few of the tops. It's the Buffalo wings of the
tiramisu that's done it for me. It's the steak for me.
(39:40):
I just like steak. With a with a peppercorn sauce
as well on the steak. Yes, of course, of course.
That's that's just obligatory. I think that's that's if you
don't get peppercorn steak on your sauce.
Is peppercorn steak on your sauce?
There's another clip for you, Mike.
(40:02):
Who are you? Oh yeah, it does sound good.
Yeah, well. What's yours mate?
Mine mine changes all the time to be fair.
Is it right now? Have we ever actually had anyone
ask us this? I don't know, I.
Don't think we have. Any questions that you're not
prepared to answer yourselves, right, go on.
(40:23):
The floor is yours. Right, well, I'm stealing your
tiramisu to start with. That's my dessert straight.
Away. No, I dessert, I dessert.
I'm not that greedy. I just wanted to get that out of
the way. My my star is cheesy garlic
bread and wings. What kind of wings?
(40:47):
That's what I'm still deciding on.
Just say BBQ, play it safe and then my main is AT bone steak
because it's my most favourites that you get the fillet and the
sirloin. So it's just like best of both
worlds. I didn't ask how you want yours
cooked, by the way. I used to be medium rare but I'm
(41:08):
I'm almost rare now. The rarer side of medium rare,
I'd say. OK, I'm still medium, but yeah,
a medium T-bone sweet potato fries.
Yeah, definitely. I'm, I'm.
You know when you can change a meal, when you always can
upgrade to the sweet potato. Do it every time. 100%.
(41:28):
I don't know why they're so nice, but they are.
And in green beans. I've got a real thing for green
beans. Interesting.
That is very, very strange, Yourgreen meal.
Like green beans have made No, you don't have to worry about it
being balanced. You can go both both the wallet
just like have what everyone is like.
(41:49):
Now that I've got to make reason.
I'm sorry you're a bit, but it's.
Not a bit common idea, isn't it?I'm not really bitch.
No I like them with loads of salt on.
They just taste so good. Wait, you put cauliflower cheese
Come. On yeah, cauliflower drenched in
cheese. And yeah, that's drenched in
(42:11):
cheese is good. You ain't got green beans and
cheese, have you got? And that's only because I'd be
too caulified with Mac and cheese.
So cauliflower cheese it is. If it wasn't, oh, then yeah, Mac
and cheese? Great.
There you go. Well, I like green beans.
I. Respected it.
I respect it. Find it weird but I respect it.
(42:32):
Don't worry, I'm not putting peas on my plate.
Don't. Worry, I almost understand peas
a bit more. They're like, they're sweet at
least. I do not a pea to be honest.
So do I when I need toilet. What's your pudding then?
My pudding. Cheesecake.
(42:54):
I love cheesecake. New York, though.
Bore. Bore in New York.
Or just a big, you know, huge sundae.
Yeah, loads of sauce. You ever had a cheesecake
sundae? No, they might be the thing now.
I had a bisque cheesecake sundaeone day once.
It's just oh God don't think life is same since.
(43:16):
Right. So my dessert would be a
cheesecake sundae. Really big.
Like huge, Yeah. Rats.
Serving, serving Spoon. You know you need that, Yeah.
Nice. What about you, Jack?
I'm going to starter. I would say it sounds quite
boring but when they're done properly I really enjoy them.
(43:39):
Just a garlic breaded mushroom. Oh yeah, garlic with.
Like a nice nice like a creamy, cheesy, garlicky sauce over the
top. Yeah.
Yeah, decent bit of bread and butter, maybe on the side.
I went through a garlic mushroomphase once.
I do like a garlic mushroom, bigfan and my main I think would be
(44:01):
it's going to have to be a burger from a Camden market.
My go to every single time that is honestly.
It's a squashed burger. Hang on, hang on if.
You get like a triple Patty. It's massive.
What's on the burger? But so he's.
Boring. No, on the burger you have Maple
(44:25):
cured bacon, an absolute shit ton of I'd say probably like a
Montaneri Jack cheese or some sort of smoked sort of cheese on
top of there. A BBQ sauce, like a really rich
tangy BBQ sauce with a bit of spice to it maybe, and crispy
(44:48):
onions. Oh.
Your lettuce. Onion rings, yeah.
Lettuce, maybe a tomato, maybe abit of lettuce.
Not really fussed about the salad to be fair.
If not, I'm not really care. And adds a bit.
Texture's important. I feel in a burger like you need
all the, you know. The layers.
Yeah. The layers.
So yeah, I'll have them with a side of just normal plain fries.
(45:13):
I'm a plain sort of guy. I'm not a sweet potato fryer
sort of man. You're.
Quite. Moron Jack.
But no, no, they're going to be topped with more BBQ sauce.
Bit of pulled pork. Oh, dirty fries, Dirty fries.
Dirty like a proper like yeah yeah, dirty fries.
Like, yeah, loaded fries. OK, nice.
Yeah, and that's it. And then my dessert tiramisu.
(45:35):
Simple do. You want to know a secret, guys?
What's? That I've never had a tiramisu.
Really. Can we kick out the call?
I think so. I think so.
I've never had one. That's outrageous.
You go to that, that one that Jack was just talking about.
Yeah, See, there we go. I keep telling, but I need an
(45:57):
excuse to go there. We'll go there.
Do a do a little special mini episode of you guys going to the
going to the restaurant and experiencing tip and see.
Shall I do it hypo? Shall I eat more?
OK, no, because hypo mic is not fun.
Don't like it? It's fun, but it's not
professional. We can't get nothing fucking
done. I mean, we have a good laugh,
(46:21):
but nothing gets recorded. It's.
So boring. You're a great theme.
Oh well, I think that about wraps it up for today anyway, if
you've got nothing else to get off your chest or if you want to
say anything or shout anything out.
(46:44):
No, I think that's it. Go listen to my podcast as well.
It's called Going for a Take. Me and two of my mates talk
about films and the industry. We interview some interesting
people. It's on YouTube and Spotify
everywhere. You can find it on my socials at
Ollie Roads under Score or just at Go for a take on Instagram
and YouTube and TikTok and all of the other things, Yeah.
(47:07):
There we go. So yeah, everyone, you heard
demand if you want to follow that and you go listen, head
over there and give it a check out.
But yeah, thank you. Thank you very, very much
everyone for joining us this week.
A big thank you to Ollie for coming on the show.
It's been a pleasure talking to you and having you here.
And you can catch us the same time, same place back again next
(47:31):
week. That's it.
Anything else? Why?
Why? Yeah.
Why'd you say time? They might listen at the same.
Time. Yeah, well, they might listen to
the same, They might listen the same time every week.
You never know, people have their own routines.
Follow us on the socials, that'sit.
(47:53):
Brilliant. Yeah, nice.
Thank you very much. That was fun.
No, yeah. Thank you, Ali.
That was really appreciate that coming on.
That was fun. No worries.
Welcome back to the We Are T1D podcast.
And guys, we've got a special guest and he's actually from the
telly. He's probably This is probably
the most professional episode we've ever come up with.
I don't think it will be. No, I don't even.
(00:21):
It's free mates down the pub allright.
And one of them some of you might know very well.
His name is Ollie Rhodes. What from Ollie Rhodes, How are
we doing? You right.
Yeah, good. Thank you for having me.
Cheers. Not a.
Problem. It's a pleasure.
It's nice to have you on. Thank you.
Yeah, No, I'm looking forward toit.
I'll be good. I'm glad you're looking forward
to it, right? Welcome to the We Are T1D
(00:45):
podcast. The Realist Type 1 Diabetes
podcast online hosted by myself Mike diagnosed at the age of 10.
And myself, Jack diagnosed at the age of 30.
We are just two mates giving youan insight into life with this
chronic condition. Yes, we are adults and although
we try not to swear, it may happen occasionally.
(01:07):
Yeah, as Jack said, we are adults, but please take what we
say as guidance and not medical advice.
No, trust me, we are not doctors.
We are just here to make sure notype 1 diabetic ever, ever feels
alone. Obviously you're type 1.
I didn't actually know you as Type 1 when I saw you on
Waterloo roads. Oh yeah, guys, he's from
(01:29):
Waterloo Road. I forgot to say as well.
Yeah, I've been been Taiwan for 13 years now, 14 maybe, maybe 15
a while. Longer than Jack.
Yeah. So you're well experienced.
How long have you had it? I was diagnosed 2 1/2 years ago.
(01:49):
Oh, Matt, you're a newbie. Yeah, proper newbie, proper
newbie. I'm still learning.
I'm still learning. My my also Type 1, so I sort of
grew up around it and knew aboutlike jazz.
So when I got diagnosed, it wasn't really, I'm told,
anything new kind of thing. Yeah.
I suppose that helped though. Yeah, a little bit.
(02:12):
It definitely helped me get the diagnosis.
Like I I spent less than a day. Yeah.
Of course. Diagnosed like the next.
Day in and out. I wasn't, I wasn't even I'll
like I we caught it so fast because the symptoms were so
obvious. I was just like, yeah, I've got
it. Well that's good.
Fuck has kept me in there for four days.
(02:32):
Yeah, I've got, I've got friendswho have been like who, who
spent like 3 weeks in. Hospital.
Oh wow. Oh.
Wow. Because of literally they like
people didn't know what was wrong with them, so they were
just like. Fucking just stabbing in the
dark, don't know what's going on.
Yeah. So where did it all start for
you Ollie? Then what?
What was your proper diet out like?
(02:52):
You say you spotted the symptomsearly, so obviously that was a
good thing. Yeah, so the story is so I used
to be part of a Sunday league football team, just as all kids
are coached by, which was great because it meant that he was
just there on the day. Yeah, that's good.
That's nice. And it was mid match and my
energy just completely went and I just we have no idea what was
(03:15):
going on. So dad took me off, sort of SAT
me down. I had, I had a bit of just juice
and some I think things from Jaffa Cakes.
And then like 15 minutes later Iwas feeling absolutely fine.
So I went back on. Yeah, 15 minutes after that went
just absolutely 0 energy again. And so my dad obviously having
married into Kobe, he's sort of went, this feels a little bit
(03:40):
fishy. Went home, did a blood test with
my mum. It saw that I was a stupid
level. I can't remember if it was high
or low. And we immediately was front.
Yes, right. Like hospital, let's go.
And then didn't even have to every night because they were
like, well, you're diabetic. If anything happens, you know
what to do. Fucking have have a good night.
(04:03):
Yeah. Like they took like main bloods
to do the actual test. And then like you sent me up and
I spent the night at home, went back in the next day and got
officially diagnosed. Wow, wow.
And got a load of free, a load of free merch.
So you know, great. It was like Christmas Day for
me. It's like opposite of traumatic
(04:26):
for me. I know so many people have
really bad experiences getting diagnosed, but I'm like not
great. It was so ingrained in our like
normal everyday family life thatI went to hospital one day and
came home with like 3 different teddies, a load of books and a
few gadgets like. The proper part of the family
now. They enrolled me with Buzzing.
(04:47):
Does your dad feel left out thenor?
Yeah, no, I think he he's definitely, he's not got those
tinted glasses. He's very keyed up with the
realities of it. I don't think he he feels like
he's missing out at all. Are.
You are you as are you as happy now still with your diagnosis or
is it like, oh in diabetes? Swings A roundabout to that
(05:13):
like. Yeah, of course it does.
Yeah, Yeah, it does for everyone, I think.
Yeah, like some days I'm like, oh, yeah, this is great.
Kind of like sets me apart from the majority of people.
And like, you can also, it's just like it's given me all
these skills to go through life with and sort of made me grow up
very fast. But then in the same breath,
it's like fucking. It's diabetes, isn't it?
(05:33):
It's horrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bit of sweet. Yeah, like.
Emphasis on the sweet. Yeah, I definitely go through
phases of burnout still, and that probably will never stop.
But you know, we move. No, no, I think that's just a
thing that comes with it. It gets tiring.
(05:56):
Yeah, exactly. So when did you start like your
acting and stuff like that, thenwhen did that come into play
with it? Because I bet that was a big
step with obviously your Type 1 going on to make that plunge to
go forward and start doing things like that.
So obviously, hold on, why did where do I start this story?
(06:16):
I was like that, right? I'll be honest, I was bored.
I was just a bored kid in summerand all my ex were on holiday.
So I was like mum, what can I doto kill the time?
And she sort of went on Facebookclubs in other groups, saw that
a local theatre company was putting on the show.
So she was just like, go do that.
That will eat up your days. That will get you out of the
(06:37):
house for a couple of weeks. Went went down.
Try auditions. For some fucking reason, I'm not
very good. But then but yeah, I got I've
got a part which I was gassed with and then just fell in love
with it and sort of eventually ended up stopping my football
(07:01):
matches because my acting classes were clashing.
OK, I love acting more so I'm just going to move over.
To that, well, as I said, I'll bet that I was going to sell,
but there come a time where you had to choose sort of what path
you wanted to go down. Yeah, exactly.
And so, so I moved over to acting and then a couple of
(07:21):
years after that, I sort of went, oh, no, I actually think I
want to do this as a career. It's not just fun anymore.
It's like genuinely what I want to do.
And then my drama teacher Miss Williams just set me on the
path. Genuinely, without her would not
be where I am now. That's.
Nice. That's nice.
Thank you, Beckham Williams, if you're listening.
(07:43):
Yeah, that's nice. That's nice thing.
It's Joe. It always comes like something
when when you do something from such a young age, it is always
down to sort of like 1 teacher that makes that major impact on
your life. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
And like I, I'd not been professional for that lot.
I've been professional since first year of sick form.
So that's what, 1617. So in terms of like other actors
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who have been also been doing itsince they were a kid, like I'm,
I'm still new. I'm still very, very like I
start because I didn't even start performing on stage in an
amateur capacity until I was about 12:13 for epoch.
So like I'm still learning, likestill, still learning.
Every job that I do, I'm like, Ipick something new because I
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didn't train either. I didn't go to drama school or
anything like that. So.
Yes. So acting is like diabetes.
It's forever learning. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And like sometimes you're the busiest person in the world and
never get a debt on. And then other times it's like
now that I'm in a slump, I'm like got no job.
So I'm just like, go on a job. Like you know what I mean?
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I'm sure you'll get there. I'm sure you'll get there.
Yeah, it's coming too. Hopefully.
That's good. So when you when you're doing
your acting and all that, have you ever had like a really bad
hypo like mid set? No, to be honest, because the
adrenaline spikes me so I'm always, I'm always rocking
probably at least low teens mostof the time when I'm on set.
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Which Sultan is listening? No, I'm not.
I'm I'm 6.5 the entire. That's the fake log book we
have. I never got this privilege with
the fake log book. All everyone all you lot keep
telling me, oh we used to fake our log books.
I didn't get that. They didn't even fucking ask for
mine. I don't like it's all an app
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now, you can't even lie about it.
But yeah, no, it's, I try and aim to be a little bit higher
just because I can, I feel like I can function high.
I can't function when I'm low. And obviously in a in an
environment on set where time ismoney in.
Yeah, of course. Yeah.
Like you. Don't want to be a liability
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like. Obviously I don't want to be
riding too high because I don't want to deal with ketones and
jet then feeling like shit and everything like that, but.
Yeah, yeah. Sort of being in that middle,
mid, mid highs is like where I'dsort of like to be when I'm on
set. Yeah.
No, that's good. That's good.
So have you ever had like an outburst then because you're
high? An outburst.
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Like anything really, you know when you're high little things
like like they nick at you like.Oh, yeah?
Well, no, because you've got to be dead nice to everybody.
Come on. You are good at acting, aren't
you? Well, The thing is as well,
everybody's been up. Like everybody who was on set
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that day most likely has been upsince like five, 6:00 in the
morning. So everybody's already knackered
and already feeling a little bitlike, yeah, I mean, get away
from me, leave me alone. Or at the same time, we're all
there because we absolutely loveit.
So I think there's a mutual understanding amongst everybody
that like, just don't, just don't mess with people
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unnecessarily and we'll all get along and stand most of the
time. It's pretty fresh, pretty nice.
Yeah, that's nice. It's not like my environment
where everyone comes in stressedshout at each job.
It's like if, if you stressed, alot of the time it's like
everybody hides it. You, it's it's somebody else's
job to stress about it probably.So let them.
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Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For a job with no
responsibilities. I love that.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't do my job properly then
the entire like you know, out ofthe things to stress about, what
I have to stress about is very menial compared to everybody
else. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know. So sorry, you said you're it's
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on your phone now. What are you on?
Are you on Libra or Dexcom? I'm on Dexcom now.
I'm on the closed loop with the Omni pod.
Closed loop. Is that is that the Omni Pod 5?
Is it the new? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is.
That how does that help you? Because I'm so close to asking
about it, but I have to. I don't know whether to take the
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plunge yet. What are you on right now?
I haven't got a pump. You're on injections.
I'm on injections yet. Are you?
Are you an athlete as well? Like do you?
Do you? Work out a lot and like he
pretends to. No, I haven't.
Even if I don't go to the gym, Iam basically at the gym whilst
I'm at work. All right.
How often do you go low? I don't know quite, I'm not not
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like it dips off quite a bit butI've had my alarm set quite high
so I always catch it before it goes too low so I don't really
have a hypo. The puddle stop that basically
like you just you won't dip because it'll it'll auto adjust
according to your activity level.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
And it's during the night as well.
I tend to go really high during the night.
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Or counter that and catch it before you even go up.
It's it's brilliant and it's so handy.
Like I it's bad but I barely shake my bloods and like because
I don't need to. No, but that's the good thing,
though. At least you don't like you
don't have to if. If the technology's that good,
then you can rely on it that much.
I can just trust it. Like today I went a little bit
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high. Was that this morning?
Oh, no, that was midnight last night, right.
So from from today audio people,I am showing my graph from today
like pretty much banging range all day until I ate a Yeah but
like, you know. That's pretty much spot on.
I haven't checked it all day so I'm just like, I'm chilling.
And then also like with acting and everything, when you don't
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get chance to shake your bloods and everything on set because
you're not really allowed on your phone and also you wear
costumes that might be layers upon layers upon layers.
Just having it self-contained the controller by Bluetooth like
it's so useful. I don't even think about that
sort of thing. But yeah, I suppose that is
like, it's a game changer in that aspect, isn't it?
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You think you've got to do an injection?
You've got to do a full on costume change just to.
We want to win. Dress for an injection, not me.
That's why I love summer and shorts.
Subtle pymes it's it depends on the job as well, because
sometimes with acting it's like I go back on injections, but.
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OK. That's if I'm wearing thinner
clothing, like if I'm wearing lots and lots of T-shirts, or if
I'm doing it seems like continuity, I'd need to not have
it on my body because if it's moving every three days and I'm
filming one week, it's like I can't have that jumping around.
Yeah, yeah. Of course.
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Might not be diabetic so it's like I need to get rid of it.
So some like depending on the job I will go back on the
injections for a month or two but it's now for that long and I
am happier when I'm on my pod. Yeah, I was just about to say
what what do you prefer? But obviously the pump.
But that's a blessing, isn't it?You can actually choose.
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Yeah, it's lovely. Like I just go to my
consultants, like I'm starting anew job.
Can you let me know what my doses should be for my
injections? And then it takes, it takes like
a day to fully transition because of like insulin not
being fully absorbed and everything like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you're on injections,
you have to do your long lastingback again and I assume.
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Yeah, but then I think, I can't remember exactly how it worked,
you have to take your pod off and then not have anything for a
few hours at least before you have your long acting injection.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Crash and you won't come up and
same the other way is like you can't if you're transitioning
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from injections to pod. I think you have to have your
last long acting injection and then skip the next one and wait
a day but still have your fast acting before you actually put
your pump on. OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense.
It's like chat to your doctor about it.
I'm not a medical professional. I'm I'm winging it.
Do you know what this is what I like having conversation with
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people like this because I wish and I hope we have people that
aren't diabetic that listen to the podcast just to learn some
things. But this is the sort of shit and
the admin work that normal people don't realise we have to
fucking go through on a day-to-day basis just to simply.
Exist. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
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And like, oh God, the decision fatigue at the end of the day.
Like I cannot, I can't make decisions at the end of the day.
No, no, I give up about 8:00. My wife asked me questions like
just shut up. It's quiet time.
I've had enough. I'm a girlfriend because she's
like, what? What do you want for dinner?
I don't care what do you want? And she's just I can't make a
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decision. You make a decision.
I can't basically. I thought it's a me thing.
It's a diabetes thing, yeah. It must be white or or it could
be a man thing. Let's say, let's say, let's say.
I mean, what is this about? Think about the amount of
decisions that you're making, like before you've even eaten
breakfast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's crazy. It's crazy.
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And just the amount of pure thinking.
Especially if you're on injection, it's like like the
the pod for me has taken a lot of decision making out for me.
It does it itself. I I'm very broad strokes now
with it and I'm I'm. Going to.
Run. I tell it when I'm eaten.
That's pretty much it. It does everything else but for
injections it's like you've got to think like 5 decisions down
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the line like it's. Yeah, What am I going to be
doing in a couple of hours? What am I have?
I got a like when I'm at work, that's exactly for that.
For instance, I need to gauge how much work I'm going to be
doing after I have my insulin for my lunch.
And sometimes I just don't even eat lunch because it's just, I
know I'm so busy and I'm so active, I can't be bothered to
throw that in the mix. I'll just crack on.
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Much appetite sometimes. And it's like, you know, yeah.
Literally, yeah. I'll just eat when I get home.
It's easier. And I can monitor it more
closely and just like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, literally.
So there's there's one question that keeps standing out to me.
We've got like a list in front of us, by the way.
Yeah, I know. We're just picking at them.
There's one that keeps coming out.
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It's because we're talking aboutyour acting.
If you could show the realities of like T1D through like a
storyline as such, what what would it be there?
Oh, like what would the storyline be?
Yeah, like, yeah. How would you like portray on a
like ATV show or something? You know what there is ATV show
that did it really well. It it's really old, not really
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old, but it was it was when I was a kid, like a proper kid.
I know I'm still quite it's called it was called the sparkle
mystery and it's like set in this post apocalyptic world
where all the adults are paid off the planet, but it's left a
load of kids around. So they're driving about trying
to survive. And one of the characters in
that is Taiwan diabetic. And part of the plot line is
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that they have to keep moving togo to different pharmacies to
get fresh insulin for him. Oh, wow, so accurately.
And like every now and then they'll they'll have left it a
bit too long and he'll genuinelyrun out of insulin.
And he's got like, really realistic, like portrayals of
ketoacidosis and like also just really bad hypos and like, it's
weaved into the story really well and really realistically.
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So like it is possible in terms of what I would do, Sorry.
What is that? What?
What was that called? Because I want to have, I want
to have a look at that. It's called the Spartacle
Mystery. I'll, I'll.
Type in the chat. Yeah, perfect.
I'm not sure where you can watchit now because.
It's I'll find it. Here, ask me.
I old and I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, Mike will find it.
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I can't remember which season itis that he's introduced, it
might be the first one. I think they did a few seasons,
but it's it's still the best sort of portrayal of it that
I've ever seen. Why do I feel like he didn't
survive? No, no, we did.
It was a kid. I did I come on Christ.
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But it's it's back when CBBC didlike proper drama.
So it was like Merlin era. It was.
It was dead. Good.
Yeah. Yeah, I would recommend that to
anybody who wants to watch a genuine portrayal of bot
diabetes is like. I'll definitely if I can find
it. I'm definitely checking that
out. Yeah, it was really good.
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I can't. I genuinely, I don't think I can
answer you right now, but I am sort of starting to direct and
make my own stuff. So the chances of it actually
happening? Oh, really?
OK. What what would you guys have?
Why are you flipping it? Why?
I'm I'm going to make it so you guys have to you.
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Can tell. You can tell he's media train,
can't you? Right.
What? What would your storyline beats
be? I'd make it as relatable as
possible, so. Yeah, yeah, like I just want to
keep it as real and real as possible.
Super emotional, super this I'm going to have a kid getting
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diagnosed and that's. Just click bait.
Yeah, I know. This is what I want people to
watch this, right? So obviously he's going to feel
so isolated. He's going to go through school,
he's maybe getting bullied as well.
And then I'm going to get my dadto Chuck him in a canal.
Yeah, right. OK.
What? On the road, Yeah.
No, I'm talking no. Sounds quite familiar.
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And it would be just connection.It's like as real as possible
and it would end well. But storyline it would
definitely be your child's perspective of diabetes though.
OK, yeah. What does ending well look like
though? Yeah.
The condition that at the momentdoesn't have a cure and
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realistically doesn't change. It's acceptance.
I would call it the battle of acceptance.
OK, so it's, it's the initial stages of getting diagnosed,
sort of battling with it and then realising, Nah, this is
just my life. Yeah, so basically, like, you
get it, You you kind of just dealing with it.
Then like adolescence, you just rebel against everything.
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It's but actually it's just my life.
Little Michael in school, yeah. Yeah, no, it's a hard question,
all right. Yeah, there you go.
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What's the weirdest or funniest thing that someone's ever said
to you about diabetes? Oh, it actually happened today.
I've never had this before. So I work, I work in in schools
at the moment as like a pay the bills job and a teaching
assistant. And I was wearing a short
sleeved shirt because it's it's like 25° in the UK at the
moment. One of the kids at the end of
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the day came up to me and was like, we were chatting about you
earlier. Are you tagged?
Like what do the police like keep keep?
Because obviously I've got my pod just out.
Thought it was cracking device. It's like, no, it's nothing.
I'm called Race. Your street, your street credits
gone through the roof can. You wear your pod on your leg,
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no? Actually like it was on my arm
and I don't remember what he thought, but like then you
really want to. That is a weird one.
That is a weird one. Yeah, I've had nicotine patch.
Yeah, I. I saw something online the other
day that someone got asked why have you got Airpods on the back
of your arm? Oh yeah, I used to have that a
lot. Well, that that was always my
frame of reference as well. Whenever somebody asked about
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the pod and like they couldn't see it, they were like, how big
is it? Like Airpods?
Yeah, I was. Yeah.
That's a good, that's actually agood way of putting it, because
then people can just do something.
It's an everyday thing they can put into perspective.
Yeah, the other other classic 1 is like on with my old pumps.
I used to have a Medtronic 64EG I think it was which was one of
the wired ones. People that was a pager used to
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think I was a doctor or something like you are like
coming out of it, like you just thought I was listening to music
all the time. Yeah.
It's mad, isn't it? Can't even think about that.
You think what it was like back in the day to have one of them
and wired headphones? Didn't you see the first one?
It was like a big rucksack. Oh yeah, the first ever isn't,
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Yeah. But I, I always imagine like my
mum growing up had like the proper heroin style needles,
like the proper syringes, like well, you had.
To like sort of draw it out of the vial and then put it in.
Pens like glass syringes, but like.
Awful can. You imagine doing that in
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public, No. No.
People used to think like my pens were like a really fancy
vape that I'd just whip out in school.
And it's like, are you vaping? No, I'm not.
No, I never even would go. Around that.
So what's we've done? Weirdest thing.
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So what's one of your proudest moments that you've ever had
since you've been diagnosed? Now what's what?
One thing you've done and you'vegone.
Do you know what? Yeah.
Fuck it. I'm proud to be diabetic that
I've done that. In college there were a couple
of moments. So by this point I've been
diabetic for like 11-12 years and I met one of my best
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friends, the Evie. She was newly diagnosed.
Like literally now, she was three months after getting
diagnosed when I met her and so like the whole of first year was
like sort of sharing all of my bad habits with her and just
like, Oh no, you're fine, don't worry about it.
Come on. Sounds like you and me, Mike.
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It does actually. Mike and just sort of teaching
her the ways of the diabetes. That was quite hard to it's like
built a very solid friendship off of that as well, which very
sweet. And then also in second year in
college, there was a guy in first year who just started who
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was also pretty newly diagnosed,but he was like quite
embarrassed about it and really nervous about doing things in
public around his classmates andlike letting it affect his work
and everything like that. And me and Evie like got called
up to just chat to him in a classroom one day and just be
like, mate, like reality check. This is your life now you've got
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to live with it. But there is no reason to feel
ashamed or embarrassed. Like, this is just what's what?
Actually, this is actually quitecool because it's it means that
you get to have snacks in class Mint.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, what nice thing to do
though. Yeah, like you get to take your
backpack into concerts when youryour mates can't, so you're
always prepared like you've got all this shit.
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There is some perks to this isn't it?
Yeah, it's like you, you get to get your phone out in class
sometimes if you want, like you know, you're but and it's
important to find those Silver Linings because otherwise you'll
drive yourself mad because like,yeah, it is shit sometimes, but
at the end of the day, you've got to keep going and it's not
going to go away if you ignore it.
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So that was that was nice as well.
And that made me feel quite goodabout myself.
Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well done. All right, That's really nice
thing. No, it is because I because no I
related to it a lot because of Jack.
Yeah, that was basically our story, pretty much.
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I've got, I've not. We've known each other for ages,
years and years and years, and we lost contact.
And then when I first got diagnosed, he was the first.
I was like, fuck me, Mike. He's he's diabetic.
I'm not. I used to inject in the staff
room. I know he is.
So I've text him when I was literally in the hospital and
told him I've got diabetes. And then since then, that was
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it. We got back in contact.
He taught me the ways as, like you said, all the bad habits and
yeah, we started all of this together.
How long have you had it then Mike out of the cat. 02028 years
this year. Matt and how old are you?
When did you get diagnosed? Yeah, I'm only 28.
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No, I'm I'm 38. Right, OK.
Oh, you got it the same time as me.
There's ten. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Nice.
There's like everyone seems to get around 9:00 and 10:00 or 30.
Yeah. And then there's a few outliers,
but those are not dead weirdos. Yeah.
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That is very true. There's a lot of people
diagnosed in their 30s, isn't it?
Yeah. I think the, the numbers are
starting to fluctuate a lot moreas well.
I'm not sure what's causing it. Well, nobody knows what causes
it in the first place, but like the it's like occurring in
teenagers more and more and moreas well as getting older and
older. Like it's just it's common.
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We would well. Back in the day, it was just
juvenile diabetes, weren't it really?
Yeah. And if it if you didn't get
diagnosed as a kid, then it was,it was, it just wasn't that.
It was something else else, but yeah, diagnosed.
Why was I going to say Part 2? It's not.
It's the same thing, right? So you said you was diagnosed at
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10 like me. I'm curious to your teenagers,
did you hit a really rebellious stage like I did, or?
Yeah, there was a stage of getting my own money from a
weekend job and just buying sweets and then not borrow us in
for them because that's it. Yeah, out of a record that I've
eaten these sweets. OK, yeah, we're quite similar
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them because I used to eat big packs, Tang, Fastix, just eat
them. Whatever I wanted, just eat
pretty much. Yeah, that was, that's.
Mad because that even now like I'm quite experienced I like to
think that scares me bro just thinking about eating packs and
packs sweets like I'm like fuck that I'm not even doing that.
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Yeah, yeah, it was. It wasn't the best, was it?
But you know, we leave. I do regret it now.
No regrets. Don't live life with no regrets.
Don't. The skinniest I've ever been?
No, I can admit that. I was the opposite.
I wouldn't. I got big.
Oh, is it? Yeah, I I got quite chunky and
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then started running and then lost it all.
Congratulations. So what do you drink?
I used to, not anymore. I just totally.
Yeah, since just before Christmas, So however many
months, that is five, just over 5 months.
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Oh nice, how you finding it? Better it's it's interesting on
a night out. I take more of an adjustment for
my mates to be honest. But yeah, no, I I prefer it.
It's better and also life is just so much cheaper.
Yeah, yeah, I I quit for a while.
I think I've done. How long did I do Jack?
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I think you've done nearly a year bro, to be fair.
No, I don't think it's that long.
Oh, I was trying to pick you up there, bro.
I did until my brother's wedding, and then halfway
through the wedding I was like, Nah, that's it, I'm done.
Yeah, actually I vaguely remember you sending me a
picture of a pint one night and you just went.
It's not a non alcoholic one. But no, I used to, I used to
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drink of not not massive mass, but like a fair bit with
everything, especially whilst I was filming because I had no
other expenses. So I was just like, that's kind
of like decompressing with my, with my colleagues.
Co stars. I hate the word Co star.
Yeah, ever. Co stars of Waterloo, just like
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decompressing within in the in ahotel lobby.
And it's like that was our only expense.
So yeah. Oh wow, do you drink all the 0
alcohol or you just don't like diet and.
The only 0 alcohol thing that I drink is gin and I call it gin,
but everything else I don't really see the point in.
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No, see, I'm with you on that one.
Yeah, I I mean, I didn't like beer to begin with.
Don't like beer, just don't likethe taste of it.
I really did like wine, but I can't.
I can't do myself into having non alcoholic buying, it just
wouldn't be the same might as. Well, just have a vimto.
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So it's like, I'd much rather have have the nice memories of
like nice wine and not not ruin it with no alcoholic wine.
That's good. Well done.
Now what? Was wine like with blood sugars
then is that is that? Is that quite shit or is it
quite running? To be fair, like I, I don't want
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to say it stabilized me, but it definitely didn't I.
Think beer is the worst for blood sugars by far.
Beer is just red in it, red in apint.
Do you know? I've never actually heard it put
that way before, but that is fucking brilliant.
It. Is.
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Yeah, it is literally, isn't it juice?
Ferment juice. I love that.
I love that that's what I'm calling it from now on.
Yeah, can I get a cup of bread juice?
Oh, that is. Great.
Yeah, I'm not a big drinker, butwhen I do, I drink spirits
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rather than beers. Yeah, that's that's where my
priorities used to be as well. Yeah, I'm, I'm a, I'm a Brandy
kind of man. Brandy.
With Brandy, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not straight, yeah.
With, well, Coke 0 actually. Oh, Coke Zero, Yeah.
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Did you ever have any scary moments with alcohol like
growing up, or was it sort of quite easy to manage?
Or did you always make sure you ate something?
No real scary moments. I think again because mum sort
of brunted the hardness of it all with her though, she was
able to just pass on any lessonsthat she learned to me and I
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went around. I don't have a bad experience
now there's obviously the obligatory, you know, first time
you get absolutely hammered as ateenager experience, which is
never nice for anybody. But you know, even even though I
don't think that messed up my bloods that much, I think the
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thing that messed me up the mostwith alcohol when I was drinking
was just going low at like 3:00 in the morning.
Like I've been been gone to bed and then I'd crash later on
because I hadn't then go something like that that that
those were the only like momentswhere I was like, oh, this is
rubbish. Well, I never never really had
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any scares with it. No, that's good.
That's a good thing. Yeah, an all right relationship
with, with that whole side of things.
Like I say, you're so you're just such a lucky person to have
that like your mum to look up toand guide you as such.
Like from such a young age, likeliterally bang your diagnose and
then the same day you're home with your mum giving you full on
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lessons on what to do and learn how to crack on.
I've never really had to wait that long for any, any bit of
like gear or anything because mum knows like what to ask for
and how to ask for it, which means that you get it there and
then and it's like great, sorted.
Can I have a word with her afterthis?
(36:26):
Wait, I've just got a weird scenario in my head.
So say like your mum's cooked dinner and all that.
Does she give you the carb countwhen she gives it to you?
She. Used to, yeah.
So like my Pat lunches in primary school, Like she'd
write, write in whiteboard pen on the inside of the lunch box,
the carbs for everything. Oh, that's nice.
I. Saw a cheap code, didn't you?
(36:47):
Yeah, eventually, like with withthe evening meals, like whilst I
was learning to carb count, she'd be like, and how much is
this worth and how much is this worth?
And I'd I'd have to add it up orshe'd tell me what each is worth
and then I'd have to add it up in my head.
Yeah, yeah. That's wicked.
Well, eventually I could just doit without eating.
You had your own personal carbs and cows growing up.
Basically, yeah. That's wicked.
(37:09):
That is honestly that is. Yeah, that's just.
That's just my bad. That's just mad.
I'm just jealous. Quite lucky with it, yeah.
And I used to just get bowls of wheat VIX.
You'll go low. But yeah, well, well might
(37:29):
mention food. So this is the big, big
question. All right.
I'd rather ask every single person that comes on this
podcast and it is take diabetes out of question, whatever.
Don't worry about diabetes. What is your go to three course
meal? And it could be anything.
You can have three starters, youcan have three mains, whatever
(37:50):
you want. Right, I want AI want a like
asterisk this with it changes this this meal, OK.
Yeah. You're different in a month's
time. Yeah, OK.
That's fine. This is what I'm feeling at the
moment. So starter salt and pepper,
calamari A. Little bit squid.
Very good, very good. Probably with like like really
(38:13):
nice garlicky sauce that they dowith it.
I don't even know what it. Is it's like.
Yeah, mains can't really go wrong with it.
Like a proper fillet steak, sweet potato fries and
cauliflower cheese with a side of side of Buffalo wings as
well. Yes, yes, we love the wings.
From Blues Kitchen in Manchester, they are the best
(38:36):
thing I've ever put in my mouth.Sorry that's a clip for you.
And as a dessert, tiramisu, because I love.
Yes. And just everything about
tiramisu is just glorious, isn'tit?
Yeah, it is absolutely there. There is.
(38:57):
I still haven't been since I've been diagnosed, but there's a
London Italian restaurant that does tiramisu and when you order
it as your dessert, they will bring it out to you in a big
dish that they've prepared freshin the kitchen and literally
just scoop it out of the bowl and straight in front of you.
And it's just honestly, every time it is to die for.
Like sweet lasagna. It's so good, dude.
(39:19):
Oh. Yeah.
Sweet lasagna. Love it.
It's a starry and it comes in layers.
It's got dairy. It's perfect.
That's a pretty good meal. Yeah, it does.
That is a really good move. I think that's up there with a
few of the tops. It's the Buffalo wings of the
tiramisu that's done it for me. It's the steak for me.
(39:40):
I just like steak. With a with a peppercorn sauce
as well on the steak. Yes, of course, of course.
That's that's just obligatory. I think that's that's if you
don't get peppercorn steak on your sauce.
Is peppercorn steak on your sauce?
There's another clip for you, Mike.
(40:02):
Who are you? Oh yeah, it does sound good.
Yeah, well. What's yours mate?
Mine mine changes all the time to be fair.
Is it right now? Have we ever actually had anyone
ask us this? I don't know, I.
Don't think we have. Any questions that you're not
prepared to answer yourselves, right, go on.
(40:23):
The floor is yours. Right, well, I'm stealing your
tiramisu to start with. That's my dessert straight.
Away. No, I dessert, I dessert.
I'm not that greedy. I just wanted to get that out of
the way. My my star is cheesy garlic
bread and wings. What kind of wings?
(40:47):
That's what I'm still deciding on.
Just say BBQ, play it safe and then my main is AT bone steak
because it's my most favourites that you get the fillet and the
sirloin. So it's just like best of both
worlds. I didn't ask how you want yours
cooked, by the way. I used to be medium rare but I'm
(41:08):
I'm almost rare now. The rarer side of medium rare,
I'd say. OK, I'm still medium, but yeah,
a medium T-bone sweet potato fries.
Yeah, definitely. I'm, I'm.
You know when you can change a meal, when you always can
upgrade to the sweet potato. Do it every time. 100%.
(41:28):
I don't know why they're so nice, but they are.
And in green beans. I've got a real thing for green
beans. Interesting.
That is very, very strange, Yourgreen meal.
Like green beans have made No, you don't have to worry about it
being balanced. You can go both both the wallet
just like have what everyone is like.
(41:49):
Now that I've got to make reason.
I'm sorry you're a bit, but it's.
Not a bit common idea, isn't it?I'm not really bitch.
No I like them with loads of salt on.
They just taste so good. Wait, you put cauliflower cheese
Come. On yeah, cauliflower drenched in
cheese. And yeah, that's drenched in
(42:11):
cheese is good. You ain't got green beans and
cheese, have you got? And that's only because I'd be
too caulified with Mac and cheese.
So cauliflower cheese it is. If it wasn't, oh, then yeah, Mac
and cheese? Great.
There you go. Well, I like green beans.
I. Respected it.
I respect it. Find it weird but I respect it.
(42:32):
Don't worry, I'm not putting peas on my plate.
Don't. Worry, I almost understand peas
a bit more. They're like, they're sweet at
least. I do not a pea to be honest.
So do I when I need toilet. What's your pudding then?
My pudding. Cheesecake.
(42:54):
I love cheesecake. New York, though.
Bore. Bore in New York.
Or just a big, you know, huge sundae.
Yeah, loads of sauce. You ever had a cheesecake
sundae? No, they might be the thing now.
I had a bisque cheesecake sundaeone day once.
It's just oh God don't think life is same since.
(43:16):
Right. So my dessert would be a
cheesecake sundae. Really big.
Like huge, Yeah. Rats.
Serving, serving Spoon. You know you need that, Yeah.
Nice. What about you, Jack?
I'm going to starter. I would say it sounds quite
boring but when they're done properly I really enjoy them.
(43:39):
Just a garlic breaded mushroom. Oh yeah, garlic with.
Like a nice nice like a creamy, cheesy, garlicky sauce over the
top. Yeah.
Yeah, decent bit of bread and butter, maybe on the side.
I went through a garlic mushroomphase once.
I do like a garlic mushroom, bigfan and my main I think would be
(44:01):
it's going to have to be a burger from a Camden market.
My go to every single time that is honestly.
It's a squashed burger. Hang on, hang on if.
You get like a triple Patty. It's massive.
What's on the burger? But so he's.
Boring. No, on the burger you have Maple
(44:25):
cured bacon, an absolute shit ton of I'd say probably like a
Montaneri Jack cheese or some sort of smoked sort of cheese on
top of there. A BBQ sauce, like a really rich
tangy BBQ sauce with a bit of spice to it maybe, and crispy
(44:48):
onions. Oh.
Your lettuce. Onion rings, yeah.
Lettuce, maybe a tomato, maybe abit of lettuce.
Not really fussed about the salad to be fair.
If not, I'm not really care. And adds a bit.
Texture's important. I feel in a burger like you need
all the, you know. The layers.
Yeah. The layers.
So yeah, I'll have them with a side of just normal plain fries.
(45:13):
I'm a plain sort of guy. I'm not a sweet potato fryer
sort of man. You're.
Quite. Moron Jack.
But no, no, they're going to be topped with more BBQ sauce.
Bit of pulled pork. Oh, dirty fries, Dirty fries.
Dirty like a proper like yeah yeah, dirty fries.
Like, yeah, loaded fries. OK, nice.
Yeah, and that's it. And then my dessert tiramisu.
(45:35):
Simple do. You want to know a secret, guys?
What's? That I've never had a tiramisu.
Really. Can we kick out the call?
I think so. I think so.
I've never had one. That's outrageous.
You go to that, that one that Jack was just talking about.
Yeah, See, there we go. I keep telling, but I need an
(45:57):
excuse to go there. We'll go there.
Do a do a little special mini episode of you guys going to the
going to the restaurant and experiencing tip and see.
Shall I do it hypo? Shall I eat more?
OK, no, because hypo mic is not fun.
Don't like it? It's fun, but it's not
professional. We can't get nothing fucking
done. I mean, we have a good laugh,
(46:21):
but nothing gets recorded. It's.
So boring. You're a great theme.
Oh well, I think that about wraps it up for today anyway, if
you've got nothing else to get off your chest or if you want to
say anything or shout anything out.
(46:44):
No, I think that's it. Go listen to my podcast as well.
It's called Going for a Take. Me and two of my mates talk
about films and the industry. We interview some interesting
people. It's on YouTube and Spotify
everywhere. You can find it on my socials at
Ollie Roads under Score or just at Go for a take on Instagram
and YouTube and TikTok and all of the other things, Yeah.
(47:07):
There we go. So yeah, everyone, you heard
demand if you want to follow that and you go listen, head
over there and give it a check out.
But yeah, thank you. Thank you very, very much
everyone for joining us this week.
A big thank you to Ollie for coming on the show.
It's been a pleasure talking to you and having you here.
And you can catch us the same time, same place back again next
(47:31):
week. That's it.
Anything else? Why?
Why? Yeah.
Why'd you say time? They might listen at the same.
Time. Yeah, well, they might listen to
the same, They might listen the same time every week.
You never know, people have their own routines.
Follow us on the socials, that'sit.
(47:53):
Brilliant. Yeah, nice.
Thank you very much. That was fun.
No, yeah. Thank you, Ali.
That was really appreciate that coming on.
That was fun. No worries.
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