June 22, 2025 • 41 mins
While jealousy can begin as a protective mechanism rooted in childhood wounds and feelings of lack, it can create spiritual blockages that prevent us from the fulfillment that we deserve. We're discussing how to break down the barriers created by jealousy, as well as how understanding your inner child can unlock profound personal growth, release emotional patterns, and cultivate deeper self-compassion. In addition, this month's Cancer energy provides a unique opportunity for healing and self-discovery. Join us for an intimate conversation that offers practical tools for spiritual transformation and emotional liberation.
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Join us for the next episode of Weekly Energy Boost with @ElishevaBalas and special guest @Esther.Naor. Watch LIVE Sundays at 10 am PT / 1 pm ET on The Kabbalah Centre YouTube or catch the latest episode wherever you listen to podcasts.
Join Esther Naor’s Tikkune Healing Inner Child: Cancer Online Workshop
https://bit.ly/3ZZOtFG and learn more about working with her: https://bit.ly/4n1c032
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Good morning everyone, good evening, good afternoon wherever you are,
and welcome to this week's Weekly Energy Boost. I am
thrilled to be with you today because my guest is
Esterna Orr, who actually is one of the hosts of
the weekly Energy Boost in Spanish. And I don't know
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why it's taken us so long to do an episode together.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I think because well I was like, oh wait I
do in Spanish, you're doing in English.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It never occurred to us to cross paths.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, it feels like somehow the universe wanted it to
happen this week, specifically because we have this beautiful combination
of opportunities that really sets us up for healing, like
I don't know if we've ever had such a perfect
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aligning of these energies to accomplish so much healing in
such a short period. Not only do we have the
weekly energy that's supporting us to drop the jealousy, literally,
we have this Thursday and Friday, the twenty sixth and
twenty seventh of June, we have the new moon of
cancer and we always talk about how the new moon
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provides us with an opportunity to plant positive seeds. According
to the teachings, of Kabbalah. The month of cancer is
the month in which all forms of cancer begin, and
it's a tremendous opportunity for healing and wholeness and really
a deep exploration of how every single day we are
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called to heal and complete our inner processes. And if
you've been listening for the last few weeks, few months,
Aitan and I have even touched on this concept that
we call the inner child, and Esther has a gift
that she's been unleashing on the world, which is an
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inner healing, inner inner child healing.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Tecoon healing.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
How can we say it? And I see inner child
tecoon healing. You've heard Daniel ne Orr, who is her husband,
on the many times talking about the power of tecoon healing,
and Esther has taken it a step further, or perhaps
even a layer deeper, and is going to share with
us how we can use inner child work to not
only shift our own spiritual growth journey, but also specifically
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in this week and this month addressing the issue the
topic of jealousy and more generally speaking, how we can
use the month of cancer as a deep exploration and
healing journey for both our inner child and our current
Elves Weekly Energy Boost is a seven day spiritual weather
(03:04):
forecast where we provide our listeners with the most practical
and powerful tools to navigate the coming seven days. And
we do that by searching through the teachings and tools
of Kabbala and picking the most profound teachings, even our
own personal stories and things that we know other people
have experienced, so that we share with you wisdom and
tools that can be used really any week of the year,
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any year of your life. And so Esra, I can't
thank you enough for being here with me today and
finally giving the world the opportunity. I mean, I'm sure
there are plenty of people who are on this journey already,
but I feel so strongly that it needs to be
broadcast as loudly and broadly as possible because it's such
important work. Maybe you can just start by sharing with
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us a general understanding of inner child work or what
the inner child represents for us, and then we can
get into the more specific details of this month, this energy,
the work you do, and give our listeners some tools
to release the influence and the struggles they have with jealousy,
not only this week, but all the time sure.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So I mean, I'm sure there's lots of different types
of inner child work, so I can say that I'm
like the inner child work person.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But basically what I work with.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And it's actually very related to the month of cancer.
I have matched like many five planets, many palancing cancer
somewhere connected.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
To this month. And one of the things about cancers
is that we are very emotional and we're very psychosomatic.
Is it called like when that connection between emotions and
the body, that's what it's calling, right, So I like
to use a lot of the body, like we're working
with the body to connect to the inner child. So yeah,
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I hear.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Danny, one of the top astrologers in the Cabala Center,
once read my charge. She told me that in her experience,
and most cancers have difficult childhoods because otherwise I would
never leave their home. And so I was one of
these cancers that had a well, I think all of
us have lots of difficulties in our childhood, some a
little bit more than others.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So let's say I'm a little bit on the more
than other side. And I you know, it did bring
me to Kabbala, and there was a lot of healing
that took place obviously using spirituality. But as I got
older and as I.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Became a mother myself, I realized that there was a
key component missing in my healing, which is actually also
connecting to my body. Like it's not enough to just
be spiritual, you need to also bring it down into
your body.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So I started to learn a little bit about how
the body works. I was taken to lots of different
like healing paths, and I learned a lot about what
happens emotionally with the nervous system in our in our body,
and how our body really holds on too. I was
very inspired actually by Monica Berg.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
She inspired me to read a book called The Body
Keeps Score by a great psychiatrist, Basil van der Kolka.
I don't know how to say that name, and literally,
the body keeps score because everything that happens to us,
our nervous system records it.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
And like mixing it with kabbala, I just realized that
that becomes articun right, So when we're children, even if
we did not have a traumatic childhood, all of us
have some form of childhood wound, because you know, we
have to go when we came to this world to
correct reveal light, so our light is going to be
somehow you know, concealed.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
So these childhood wounds, right, they get recorded literally like
in our body, in our nervous system, which is like
the communicator of the body, right.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And the thing is that it is, this becomes article
and it becomes our reactive operating system, and we get
so used to it that we don't even realize it anymore,
you know, like these certain belief system, thought patterns, and
it just it goes beyond that. It's not just your head.
It's like ways of behaving, a feeling literally like sensations
in your body that you don't even realize that they're
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anymore because you're so used to it. Right. So what
I focus on is using the tools of ticun healing,
knowing how ticoon works, and then mixing it with with
what I've learned as about how you know, the nervous
system works and trauma a little bit of trauma heal.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And I'm not a psychologist a disclaimer, you know, I'm
not a therapist, so I can't say I know, but
from what I've learned in from my own experience, I
kind of joined.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
These two together and I work with people.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
To you know, what they want to work on and
like connect to their body, let their body take us
to moments. And I've had really surprising situations where people
like go back to certain childhood memories and they're like, wow,
I had forgotten this happened, or I knew it happened,
but I didn't realize the effects had in it. And
some of them even go back to like really like
early childhood memories that are like not conscious and you
can't consciously remember them, but it's still recording the subconscious
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and things that affected them since then.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Right, So it just it's us like I'm in aw
of how the body is so wise, you know, and
sometimes in spirituality and in kabbala, and I know that
I was like this, So that's why I'm shared. You
kind of like think like the body is here to be,
you know, mind over matter, and then you don'tn't know,
might not understand it in the right way. We understand
the way of like we need to suppress the body,
we need to override the body. And the tuth is
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that that's not what the rav meant when when the
Ravar teachers said mind over matter, it's really the body
is the vehicle for the soul, you know, Like even
you know, our teacher Michael Burke has been speaking a
lot about how we need to feel things in our body,
like our body is a perfect vehicle for our soul's
purpose and it's actually very wise, and we can use
it as a guide to connect to what the purpose that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
We came, you know, to this world and and and
to healing and and.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
To spiritual growth, you know, and to know what what
is what is really concealing our light and how we
can reveal it. So that's just very quickly introduction to and.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
What can you tell us a little bit about what's
unique about the Cancrian inner child?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yes, so the cancer in your child is again very emotional.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
One thing we learn about cancers right there. The governing
body is the moon, the governing planet is the moon,
and the moon does not have its own light. So
one of the tendencies of cancer is to focus on
lack and what I don't have, including ourselves.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So a cancer child can be very kind of like
insecure and therefore very like kind of like needy and
dependent on others to have a sense of worth, to
sort of a sense of value. This can also take
us to comparing ourselves a lot with others, because it's
very hard to know my own worth and what I
feel and value and I need constant like validation externally.
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So this can also take us to comparison, which can
take us to envy others, because again we're always seeing,
and I know it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Happens to me a lot, like I'm always like seeing
like what I don't have, what I am not, what
I'm doing wrong, Like it's very hard to appreciate because
you're always like again, you're like, this is in a
state of lack because I don't have my own light, right,
instead of understanding that this the moon is here to
shine the lights the sun's light at night when it's dark,
So you can use that lack, so we say, and
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transform it into a great channel for light. Right. But
the Cancyrian tendency is the.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Opposite is to see what I'm missing and to see
what's wrong with me, and to compare myself to others
and to feel insecure about myself and kind of like
looking outside towards others to be my source of light
instead of being my own source of light.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
So that sounds to me also like the work for
all of us this month, regardless of I mean, maybe
one twelve of us are born in the month of cancer, right,
if there's twelve signs of the zodiacos, stickly, probably around
that percentage of the world is falls under the sign
of cancer. But in Kabbala we learn that every month
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we become a little like the sign of that month.
We are influenced by the same energy that was in
effect when those souls emerged into this lifetime, and so
therefore we need to watch out for those same exact tendencies, right,
not coming from a place of lack, not needing that
external validation or confirmation from the outside. I have a
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Cancrian daughter. I love her dearly, and the funny thing
is that even in my family, outside of her, we
have cancri the sign of cancer is in almost everyone's chart.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So I get the gifts.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I see very clearly the unique gifts of those born
under the sign or influenced by the sign of cancer.
They're very nurturing, very loving, very They're just naturally empathetic
and caring people. But that can also be taken to
an unhealthy extreme. So you feel like what you just
shared is a perfect prescription for not only for healing
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the Cancrian in our child, but also for healing all
of us in this month. And I think that that's
where the jealousy piece comes in. We spoke a couple
of weeks ago about how our agenda, our perception creates
our reality. So if our perception is that something is missing,
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our external surroundings will validate that perception. Right, Our consciousness
creates our reality. Means that our soul is like a
moving projector, and whatever consciousness we subscribe to that gets
projected to our environment, to the situations that we encounter,
to our relationships. And that's why doing this internal work
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is so powerful. That if you can catch yourself, and
that to me is the essence of tekoun healing. If
you can catch a perception or a belief system that
is false, or maybe it was true when you were young,
but it's no longer true and valid, and in fact,
usually the ones those belief systems that have expired are
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actually counter productive. They actually hurt us more than they
serve us anymore. Then we have the ability to release them,
and then that perception no longer colors our reality.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And in the.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Teachings of Cavala ninety.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I mean, maybe ninety is a high number.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Maybe seventy five percent of the work is internal and
the other twenty five percent is using tools that help
us strengthen the internal.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So the funny thing is, and I share this all
the time in classes, nobody can tell when you know
if you're working on transforming your perception of something that's
not something that's not a process that's visible from the
outside until it results in a shift in you. So
you can't tell, you know, if I'm smiling at you.
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You can't tell if I'm raging inside, or if I'm
wishing you peace and blessings. And for me, the idea
of jealousy is, I am I reject what the universe
feels is right for me right now. I would like
another reality. And by rejecting the universe's reality, I require
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I would say, I would call it a more bumpy
road to reach what the blessings that are genuinely mine,
because I'm busy on focused on blessings that aren't necessarily
for me, even though they might be beautiful and they
might be pleasant for whoever they actually belong to, and
so to me, I always see this week that there
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is this like comparison bug that people get. Why am
I not there yet? Why am I this I thought
I would be X, Y and Z by this age.
Why are my siblings or my cousins, or my coworkers
or my neighbors achieving what I want to achieve?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
What's wrong with me?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And looking at that comparison mindset really sets us up,
like your words of like lack mindset. Right when you're
comparing your progress to anybody else, it's you know, maybe
it's cliche, but it's like comparing apples to oranges. You
can't really compare them. They're not meant for the same role.
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In that same way, when we compare ourselves to others,
we're discounting lifetimes and lifetimes of work.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
We have no idea.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Why they're in their seat right now and we're in
this seat where we are. And at the same time,
by busying ourselves with it, you know, you think about
the bandwidth that we dedicate to looking at what other
people are doing and worrying about keeping up with the
joneses and all that stuff. We could be putting that
bandwidth into something that will be fruitful and not detrimental.
(16:09):
So I wonder esther for you in your work with
people and how you see that process of releasing jealousy
or releasing that need to compete or perform relative to
other people. How does that work look?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Okay, Well, so you mentioned something that's very interesting, this
idea of I'm not enough, because that's the main lack, right,
And again I think cancers fly that flag a lot.
But in my experience, we all have an aeron arview,
like I don't know somebody who thinks they're enough.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
To be honest, we're all or maybe in some areas
and better than others, but we all kind of feel
like we're not enough. And again that's the lack right. So,
and I love what you said.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
About the idea of being internal versus external, because the
thing is that that lack does not feel comfortable at all.
And again as cancers, but it doesn't feel comfortable for anybody.
But but as cancers, you feel the feelings extra and
you feel your body extra, so it feels.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Even more uncomfortable. So we're like, Okay, let me focus
outside so that I don't have to be focused inside
and feeling that pain. So many times when I do
that in your child work, one.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Of the main things is let's let's go inside and
feel that discomfort.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Let's feel that pain that you've been avoiding, because that
is the inner child. It's like crying for attention.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's like please see me, please hear me, and it's
extremely uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
But that's where the healing is. So many times that's
really just the first step. Let's let's like like like
let's well, actually, no, the first step and this is
this is again very cancerean.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
One of the things about cancers that we need to
feel safe and the body needs to feel safe. So
one of the first things I do, like in workshops
or sessions, is like help our body to feel safe,
because if not, you're definitely not gonna want to go
towards what's uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
And then after we were feeling safe, and then we
use like the tools and we use like cabalistic too,
like the czar and breath work or whatever it is
that we can do visualization, et cetera. And once we
feel safe, let's go, let's go towards that place of lack.
Let's go to that place where you don't feel enough.
Let's go to how it shows up in your body,
how is it feeling in your body. Let's go and
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touch upon that discomfort and that pain and that lack
that you're looking to fill outside of yourself, and let's
figure out how we can instead. You know that lack
is just concealing your light.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Let's figure out instead what healing needs to be done
so that we could reveal the light.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That's actually being concealed by the lack. And in this
whole work, it's so important to be very compassionate with
ourselves because.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Most of the time, these belief systems and these reactive
patterns of thinking, behavior and feeling that push us to
look towards the outside to fill that void and to
fill that lack and to compare ourselves and et cetera.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
There are survival mechanisms and again they're born from a wound,
and so especially when we're kids and we don't we
really don't know how to deal with it. The only
way we know how to deal with it is in
the survival mechanism that are like, let's compare ourselves.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
There's look how we can fix it from the outside.
Let's try to get what somebody else has. Maybe we'll
feel better, right, So there's to.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Connect in our child and to have a lot of compassion.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
And that's also one of the things that I first
start out any session, any workshop, it's let's make sure
that like, let's frame it as a time to be
very compassionate with ourselves, because once you start kind of
like doing this work, you realize it, Like, you know,
behind any form of negative or reactive behavior, there's always.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Pain, and it's it's reactive, it's survival mechanism and defense
mechanism against this pain, right, and you know, we just
can't judge ourselves or judge others for the pain that
they're carrying.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
So the more you go inside, the more you you
learn that you can't judge others. But also the more
you go inside, you realize that we all have light.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
And when you compare yourselves to others and you envy others,
you are first of all not seeing that they also
have their own pain, and you're not.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Taking that into consideration. But you're putting your light aside,
you know, even more, and you're you're like, you're missing
out on your own blessings and your own worth and
destiny and purpose because you're so busy looking outside. Right, So, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Could say, all of the gun killing for sure, definitely
in their child is definitely an expiration.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Of the inside. It's going. It's really going inside and
creating a safe space to touch upon the lack and
the wounds that make us want to compare ourselves to others,
that make us want to feel we're not They create
these belief systems of I am not enough, I don't
have enough, what's wrong with me? That's also a big one.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You mentioned it as well, that make me want to
want to have what somebody else has or maybe be
what somebody else is.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Right that you know, if anybody, if you've ever thought
to yourself, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Or why do I keep doing that?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Or you have that like angry voice inside your head
that's disappointed and critical, that's to me, that is a
neon light pointing to inner work child to be done,
because that not compassionate voice that somehow we allowed to
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live renfree in our heads, that sits there and narrates,
you know, pessimistically narrates what's going on in our movie.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I think that that's part of the work of this week.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And of course carrying it into our lives in general.
But really looking at that voice, because it's the same
voice that's going to say, you know, you need to
work harder than everybody else to be successful, to be worthy,
You need to hustle harder to promote yourself, because why
would anybody want to work with you, or know you
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or be married to you? Right, So that voice, I mean,
I would love to hear from you esther if you
have recommendations for people, or how you guide individuals out
of a judgmental or jealous space into a more compassionate
and loving space. But to me, the first work, the
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first step is cultivating an experience. And I say experience
because I think a lot of people do it mentally.
A lot of people have a logical gratitude journal that
they might write write in every single day. But if
we don't feel the gratitude in our body, right, going
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back to what you said, if we don't feel it
and it's not authentic for us, it can't work for us.
It's simply an external mechanism. Like I don't know, I'm
not going to eat sugar for thirty days. That's great,
and I'm sure it will yield wonderful benefits, But what
happens after the thirty days is that gratitude journal isn't
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a part of cultivating a sentiment, an experience of gratitude
and feeling fortunate and looking at the very essence of
who you are as radiant and good. Anything else isn't
gonna help. So I wonder, from your experience or what
you share with your students or people that you work with,
what are some practical ways we can offset the influence
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of jealousy and comparison in our lives.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
So usually I think mindset is always like you wherever
you feel jealous, because let's be honest, we all feel jealous,
we all feel envious. It's a sign that there's pain
behind that. So the first thing is to understand that
the problem. It's funny because when we learn.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
About reactivity writing Kabala one two three, we think that
the being jealous itself is what is my reactivity or
being envious in my reactivity, And it is, But it's
already the effect the.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Jealousy and the envy and possessiveness that might come by
the way jealousy comes with possessiveness, which cano again be
a very Concirean situation. Here is the effect. It's a
reactive behavior.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But it's the effect of that reactive belief system that's
behind there.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
And I always.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Say, this is a protection shield. You're being envious, you're
being jealous, you're being possessive, you're comparing yourself to others.
It's a way of protecting yourself. So the first thing
is I would ask you, like, what are you protecting
yourself from?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
You know what? How is this a survival mechanism? And
I think when you shifted to that, it automatically makes
you be a little bit more compassionate because you're like, oh, wow, yeah,
there's some pain behind her. There's some wound or some
hurt that happened to me.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
And the way that I protect myself from the pain,
the way that I survived the pain is by being
jealous and judging myself and connecting to the lack instead
of the instead of the abundance, and compare myself to others.
Like I mean, I can tell you get my experience
and my five planets and cancer in my chart, and
it's also yes, very present in my family.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Both my husband and my eldest daughter have a rising cancer.
There's so much cancer.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So much water in our inn the household, and uh,
like I know for myself, for example, is that one
of the wounds I have as.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
A kid, unfortunately, is that I was very disappointed by
my parents often, like and I'm talking about disappointments like
you know, not showing.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Up for my school performance or being very late, or
my father said he would do something, but it was
an empty promise and then he wouldn't do it, and it.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Just kind of like and also hearing that from my
from my mother, I think that she had that same
experience with her parents, so it kind of like it's like, oh, well,
life is disappointing. So I don't want to believe in
myself or step up into my power or whatever or
really desire something because I'm going to be disappointed.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Like I don't want to set up to expectations because
I'm going to be disappointed. So I'd rather just play
it safe, play it small, and make myself small, or
focus on what.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I don't have and and and focus on my lack
and what I am not because it's somehow safer than
taking the risk of appreciating, than taking the risk of
saying I am worthy, I am valuable, and let's step
up there, you know, like let's let's.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Shine, because what if I get disappointed, or what if
I disappoint somebody else, or what if I don't meet
my own expectations? Right, So this is how I say
that that playing small and comparing myself to others and
and focusing on my lack.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
It's a protection shield.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
It's a defense mechanism towards the greatest appointment I felt
as a kid from my own parents.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Okay, And again here comes at the coon part where
this is not a therapy session. We're gonna blame my
parents for my life. It's the idea of like, Okay,
I did choose my parents. I they they This is
part of what the way I'm coming to reveal light
is by overcoming this belief system. Right. So it's not
like it's not about about now I'm gonna like, you know,
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it's not a blaming my parents and dumping on them.
It's just understanding where it comes from. And then again
there's a lot more compassion when I realized, yeah, you know, one,
as a kid, I was very disappointed constantly, you know,
and that made me feel very unsafe. So of course
I feel the way I feel now. It just kind
of like that understanding automatically for me at least, it
brings more compassion, and then from that compassion place, I
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can start Okay, well, let's how do we heal this?
You know? How how can I work on being okay
with being disappointed?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Right? How could I work with being okay and feeling
safe stepping up and taking certain risks and appreciating and
not like and not like protecting myself with black and
low self.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Esteem and being okay with the fact that doing that, yes,
it might create some might disappoint but it's not the
end of the world, you know, Like, I'm not the
little kid that needed needed that.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You know, they couldn't handle disappointment or there wasn't taught
to deal with disappointment.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I know, not making sense I should answer your question?
Or did I just go resolutely absolutely?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And you brought up a really important distinction that I'm
glad it's out there now because in Kabbalah, we don't
we don't assign responsibility on who we are to our
upbringing and to our childhood. We know that, as you said,
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the soul before coming down to the physical reality, the
ticun is established. It's not a product of astrology, and
my childhood. It is determines my astrology, makeup my childhood,
my parents the way that they raise me. So to me,
that's the most empowering understand one of the most empowering
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teachings in Kabbalah because it means that I volunteer for this.
This is perfect for the healing that I need to
go through, and it's perfect for the light that I
am meant to shine through my healing. And that's why
I chose parents who would create this environment, so that
I could have a conscious programming of jealousy or whatever
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it is, and then as an adult go on to
heal it. So and specifically with this one. You know
that we could pick any other topic, right, but when
you and I hope this doesn't sound too religious, but
I always think about jealousy as for whatever reason, the
Light of the Creator put jealousy up there with not murdering,
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not stealing, not like it's it's in the top ten
dues and don'ts from the light of the Creator. You
should not want what your neighbor has not because that's
not nice. Be a nice person, you know, don't be
a bad person. But because of the collateral damage it
does on our own connection to the light of the Creator.
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It's essentially saying, you know, I want all these amazing things,
and I want to be influential and inspiring for people,
and I want to do great things in the world.
But God over here, you messed up. I'm supposed to
have that package, not this package. And so on one hand,
we're trying to work with the universe and work with
the Creator and draw greater fulfillment and positivity. And at
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the same time we're telling that system that we're asking
from you made a mistake or this doesn't work, or
here's a glitch you know that needs to be worked out.
I'm supposed to have that situation or that person or
that job or whatever it is. And when we talk
about out revealing more light in our lives, alignment is
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such a key thing, right alignment to such an being
aligned with our soul, with the light, with positivity is
really the starting point to even be able to be
more compassionate with myself, more forgiving, more understanding, more empathetic.
And so this whole conversation goes back to something that
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we repeat week after week after week. Do you really feel,
objectively speaking, that you're not where you're supposed to be,
you don't have what you're supposed to have, and how
does that criticism of the divine plan interfere with your
alignment with you, with your expressing the light within you
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and finding that Why we share things like you know,
we choose our parents and we choose our astrology sign
it's to better understand it's not a glitch, it's not
a mistake, it's not an accident. That package is not
meant to be yours. The way you know you're in
the right place at the right time, with exactly what
you need is because that's where you are right now
and you're completely able to shift it and transform it,
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not from a place of lack, but from a place
of I have everything. I am exactly where I'm meant
to be. And now what can I do from that
place of wholeness and appreciation and gratitude? How can I receive?
How can I be a channel for even more goodness?
As I want to be mindful of the time. Can
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you share with us a little bit about the work
that you do every month in your inner childitycooonnealing Seminars.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, so, actually I like to call it more of
a workshop because it's not really like a class. Basically,
it's based actually after.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Off of something that our teacher Karen Berg did before
she left this world, where she did some work with
an inner child of each sign and kind of like
gave us like uh archetype of the wounded inner child
of each sign.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
So I kind of like took that and and.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Joined it with the Tokun healing kind of like work
that I do. And what we do is that if
it really becomes like a healing circle, it's really beautiful
and it's on zoom, it's live, and I take like
the archetype of the wounded in a child of that month.
In this case it would be cancer, right, and I
have I have the participants kind of like reflect a
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little bit upon upon the energy of the month and
ask them like some questions.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Relate to that. And then what we do is that
again I always start off with let's feel safe, because if.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
We're gonna go towards the uncomfortable and towards the wounds,
are you know that that have sent sent us previously
to fight a flight mode in our nervous system. We
need to first make sure a nervous system feels safe
and then afterwards, I use kind of like a phrase
that I come up with for that month, and we
feel it in our bodies and we use we use
that as a way and and again you'd say it
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sounds like you logical, but really our body takes us
back to the moments where those wounds were inflicted and
we can see how clearly it affects us or it
affected us. Usually I have a volunteer, be kind of
like the guinea pig and do the work in front
of everybody, and then it's incredible what.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Might come up. You know, It's like again like these
memories that you didn't know.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
That you had put away, and then you're like, oh
my god, this is the moment I started believing this
about myself. This a moment I started to believe this
about life. And from then on it became like such.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
A reactive pattern of being right and when you see it,
you can heal it. So we do it. We're starting
to do it every month.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
This will be the third one, and yeah, it's this Thursday,
the twenty sixth at five pm Pacific, eight pm Eastern,
and it's against Live.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
It's on Zoom. And then basically I walk you through it.
I mean also depending on what answers you give me.
So I'm like, okay, let's feel this in your body.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I mean, I'm not going to do the whole thing here,
but I have them connect to their body and then
they start saying, well, this is what I feel, this
is where it takes. So I said, okay, let's let's
connect to the new child in that moment. So say like,
it creates this sensation in my body.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
And when I connect to my body, it takes me
back to when I was three years old.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And I had to say goodbye to my mother to
go into preschool whatever. Right, So I said, okay, let's
connect to that three year old you. Let's talk to
that three year old you. What does it want to say?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
What is it holding on to? Still? And we just
kind of like do that work.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
And I base it a lot on what the people
are answering regarding.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
So it's very it's kind of like.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Interactive.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's interactive. It's not exactly personal.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I do have personal te cool healing sessions focused on
the inner child, kind of like when my husband has
the cool healing sessions. So I also do it that way,
but I do it that I focus a lot on this,
while he might focus more on a more like the systemic.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Healing, which is also very powerful and useful. And I mean, okay, if.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
If you're listening and this sounds interesting to you, you
can join Esther's Month of Cancer Session live interactive zooms
this Thursday, June twenty six at five. If you don't
want to do it in a group, or you're interested
in having a more personalized experience, Esther also does that
work one on one individually, and we will put the
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links so you can learn more about both of those
opportunities in this week's show notes as well as on
the homepage at Weekly energy boost dot com. Est any
final words for our friends this week, because they navigate
the the terrain.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
What I always like people to take away from whenever
I do anything related to the new Child is, first
of all, it's the beginning of a journey. So it's
all we're going to heal the new child in like
a one session type of thing.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Or one conversation type of thing. But what I hope
that this leaves everybody with is.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
First a more compassionate view of ourselves. Is because we know,
we understand that most of our reactivity is bored of
a need to survive and to defend ourselves against some
sort of pain we went through and be like, you
know what, I'm this way, but I'm this way for
a reason, And again is not to blame my parents,
or my childhood or my but just to understand that
there's you know, it's not that I'm crazy, it is
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my I'm not crazy or I'm not there's nothing.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Wrong with me.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
It's just a natural response to what I lived through.
But the good thing is that once I see it,
I can heal it. And the healing is the revealing
of light itself. So I hope it helps everybody to
be more compassionate with themselves and also more curious.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I think that's the thing, like more curious about, as
you said, going inside versus outside and being like, wow,
if I feel this way, why do I feel this way?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Not just say I'm being reactive, which we can do
in the Cabala Center, right like why am I feeling
this way?
Speaker 3 (37:37):
What's behind this reactive behavior? So if I tend to
be jealous and I tend to compare myself to others,
what's behind that? How does this serve me? When do
I When did I start being this way? When did
I learn to be this way? Where is this rooted?
Speaker 7 (37:51):
And just kind of like focus on going more towards
the inside and just being more curious about about what
we're feeling and even our bodily sensations, Like my belly
hurts when I, you know, whenever I need to talk
in public, right, which like, okay, but what is my
belly saying?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
There's there's a reason why my belly hurts?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Right?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Oh? If I even like anxiety, right I I suffer
from anxiety or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Suffer.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It's the coin with anxiety, and it's like there's a
pro where it's like a physical thing. It's not like
in my head I'm stressed, like my it's a physical reaction.
So okay, So body, what are you trying to tell
me when you send me this anxious you know sensations,
there is some there is a message behind it.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
What is that message is? What is needing to be healed?
What light do you want to reveal that you're calling
the attention to it by these physical sensations or emotional
sensations or thought patterns or behavior, you know, emotions, feelings,
I said that already, right, So I think these are
the two things that I would really encourage.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
People is compassion and curiosity.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I'm so excited for our listeners who are ready to
take this step, to begin this journey of and I'm
sure everyone who's listening the reason you're listening is because
you're on a journey of transformation already. But to be
able to implement and incorporate this approach, which to me
when I heard about it was very new and very
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very powerful to see it from that lens as that
younger version of me still needing to defend or protect itself,
and how I can hug that inner little me and
no longer need those patterns and behaviors.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I mean, I'm.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Oversimplifying it a little bit, but the process of embracing
that little me is profoundly transformational and esther. I can't
thank you enough for being here with me.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Thank you for having me. And also catch my podcast
in Spanish. If you speak Spanish or know someone who
speaks Spanish.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yes, well, I will include that in the show notes
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Speaker 3 (41:00):
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Good morning everyone, good evening, good afternoon wherever you are,
and welcome to this week's Weekly Energy Boost. I am
thrilled to be with you today because my guest is
Esterna Orr, who actually is one of the hosts of
the weekly Energy Boost in Spanish. And I don't know
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why it's taken us so long to do an episode together.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I think because well I was like, oh wait I
do in Spanish, you're doing in English.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It never occurred to us to cross paths.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, it feels like somehow the universe wanted it to
happen this week, specifically because we have this beautiful combination
of opportunities that really sets us up for healing, like
I don't know if we've ever had such a perfect
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aligning of these energies to accomplish so much healing in
such a short period. Not only do we have the
weekly energy that's supporting us to drop the jealousy, literally,
we have this Thursday and Friday, the twenty sixth and
twenty seventh of June, we have the new moon of
cancer and we always talk about how the new moon
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provides us with an opportunity to plant positive seeds. According
to the teachings, of Kabbalah. The month of cancer is
the month in which all forms of cancer begin, and
it's a tremendous opportunity for healing and wholeness and really
a deep exploration of how every single day we are
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called to heal and complete our inner processes. And if
you've been listening for the last few weeks, few months,
Aitan and I have even touched on this concept that
we call the inner child, and Esther has a gift
that she's been unleashing on the world, which is an
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inner healing, inner inner child healing.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Tecoon healing.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
How can we say it? And I see inner child
tecoon healing. You've heard Daniel ne Orr, who is her husband,
on the many times talking about the power of tecoon healing,
and Esther has taken it a step further, or perhaps
even a layer deeper, and is going to share with
us how we can use inner child work to not
only shift our own spiritual growth journey, but also specifically
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in this week and this month addressing the issue the
topic of jealousy and more generally speaking, how we can
use the month of cancer as a deep exploration and
healing journey for both our inner child and our current
Elves Weekly Energy Boost is a seven day spiritual weather
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forecast where we provide our listeners with the most practical
and powerful tools to navigate the coming seven days. And
we do that by searching through the teachings and tools
of Kabbala and picking the most profound teachings, even our
own personal stories and things that we know other people
have experienced, so that we share with you wisdom and
tools that can be used really any week of the year,
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any year of your life. And so Esra, I can't
thank you enough for being here with me today and
finally giving the world the opportunity. I mean, I'm sure
there are plenty of people who are on this journey already,
but I feel so strongly that it needs to be
broadcast as loudly and broadly as possible because it's such
important work. Maybe you can just start by sharing with
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us a general understanding of inner child work or what
the inner child represents for us, and then we can
get into the more specific details of this month, this energy,
the work you do, and give our listeners some tools
to release the influence and the struggles they have with jealousy,
not only this week, but all the time sure.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So I mean, I'm sure there's lots of different types
of inner child work, so I can say that I'm
like the inner child work person.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But basically what I work with.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And it's actually very related to the month of cancer.
I have matched like many five planets, many palancing cancer
somewhere connected.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
To this month. And one of the things about cancers
is that we are very emotional and we're very psychosomatic.
Is it called like when that connection between emotions and
the body, that's what it's calling, right, So I like
to use a lot of the body, like we're working
with the body to connect to the inner child. So yeah,
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I hear.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Danny, one of the top astrologers in the Cabala Center,
once read my charge. She told me that in her experience,
and most cancers have difficult childhoods because otherwise I would
never leave their home. And so I was one of
these cancers that had a well, I think all of
us have lots of difficulties in our childhood, some a
little bit more than others.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So let's say I'm a little bit on the more
than other side. And I you know, it did bring
me to Kabbala, and there was a lot of healing
that took place obviously using spirituality. But as I got
older and as I.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Became a mother myself, I realized that there was a
key component missing in my healing, which is actually also
connecting to my body. Like it's not enough to just
be spiritual, you need to also bring it down into
your body.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So I started to learn a little bit about how
the body works. I was taken to lots of different
like healing paths, and I learned a lot about what
happens emotionally with the nervous system in our in our body,
and how our body really holds on too. I was
very inspired actually by Monica Berg.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
She inspired me to read a book called The Body
Keeps Score by a great psychiatrist, Basil van der Kolka.
I don't know how to say that name, and literally,
the body keeps score because everything that happens to us,
our nervous system records it.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
And like mixing it with kabbala, I just realized that
that becomes articun right, So when we're children, even if
we did not have a traumatic childhood, all of us
have some form of childhood wound, because you know, we
have to go when we came to this world to
correct reveal light, so our light is going to be
somehow you know, concealed.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
So these childhood wounds, right, they get recorded literally like
in our body, in our nervous system, which is like
the communicator of the body, right.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And the thing is that it is, this becomes article
and it becomes our reactive operating system, and we get
so used to it that we don't even realize it anymore,
you know, like these certain belief system, thought patterns, and
it just it goes beyond that. It's not just your head.
It's like ways of behaving, a feeling literally like sensations
in your body that you don't even realize that they're
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anymore because you're so used to it. Right. So what
I focus on is using the tools of ticun healing,
knowing how ticoon works, and then mixing it with with
what I've learned as about how you know, the nervous
system works and trauma a little bit of trauma heal.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And I'm not a psychologist a disclaimer, you know, I'm
not a therapist, so I can't say I know, but
from what I've learned in from my own experience, I
kind of joined.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
These two together and I work with people.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
To you know, what they want to work on and
like connect to their body, let their body take us
to moments. And I've had really surprising situations where people
like go back to certain childhood memories and they're like, wow,
I had forgotten this happened, or I knew it happened,
but I didn't realize the effects had in it. And
some of them even go back to like really like
early childhood memories that are like not conscious and you
can't consciously remember them, but it's still recording the subconscious
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and things that affected them since then.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Right, So it just it's us like I'm in aw
of how the body is so wise, you know, and
sometimes in spirituality and in kabbala, and I know that
I was like this, So that's why I'm shared. You
kind of like think like the body is here to be,
you know, mind over matter, and then you don'tn't know,
might not understand it in the right way. We understand
the way of like we need to suppress the body,
we need to override the body. And the tuth is
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that that's not what the rav meant when when the
Ravar teachers said mind over matter, it's really the body
is the vehicle for the soul, you know, Like even
you know, our teacher Michael Burke has been speaking a
lot about how we need to feel things in our body,
like our body is a perfect vehicle for our soul's
purpose and it's actually very wise, and we can use
it as a guide to connect to what the purpose that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
We came, you know, to this world and and and
to healing and and.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
To spiritual growth, you know, and to know what what
is what is really concealing our light and how we
can reveal it. So that's just very quickly introduction to and.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
What can you tell us a little bit about what's
unique about the Cancrian inner child?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yes, so the cancer in your child is again very emotional.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
One thing we learn about cancers right there. The governing
body is the moon, the governing planet is the moon,
and the moon does not have its own light. So
one of the tendencies of cancer is to focus on
lack and what I don't have, including ourselves.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So a cancer child can be very kind of like
insecure and therefore very like kind of like needy and
dependent on others to have a sense of worth, to
sort of a sense of value. This can also take
us to comparing ourselves a lot with others, because it's
very hard to know my own worth and what I
feel and value and I need constant like validation externally.
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So this can also take us to comparison, which can
take us to envy others, because again we're always seeing,
and I know it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Happens to me a lot, like I'm always like seeing
like what I don't have, what I am not, what
I'm doing wrong, Like it's very hard to appreciate because
you're always like again, you're like, this is in a
state of lack because I don't have my own light, right,
instead of understanding that this the moon is here to
shine the lights the sun's light at night when it's dark,
So you can use that lack, so we say, and
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transform it into a great channel for light. Right. But
the Cancyrian tendency is the.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Opposite is to see what I'm missing and to see
what's wrong with me, and to compare myself to others
and to feel insecure about myself and kind of like
looking outside towards others to be my source of light
instead of being my own source of light.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
So that sounds to me also like the work for
all of us this month, regardless of I mean, maybe
one twelve of us are born in the month of cancer, right,
if there's twelve signs of the zodiacos, stickly, probably around
that percentage of the world is falls under the sign
of cancer. But in Kabbala we learn that every month
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we become a little like the sign of that month.
We are influenced by the same energy that was in
effect when those souls emerged into this lifetime, and so
therefore we need to watch out for those same exact tendencies, right,
not coming from a place of lack, not needing that
external validation or confirmation from the outside. I have a
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Cancrian daughter. I love her dearly, and the funny thing
is that even in my family, outside of her, we
have cancri the sign of cancer is in almost everyone's chart.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So I get the gifts.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I see very clearly the unique gifts of those born
under the sign or influenced by the sign of cancer.
They're very nurturing, very loving, very They're just naturally empathetic
and caring people. But that can also be taken to
an unhealthy extreme. So you feel like what you just
shared is a perfect prescription for not only for healing
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the Cancrian in our child, but also for healing all
of us in this month. And I think that that's
where the jealousy piece comes in. We spoke a couple
of weeks ago about how our agenda, our perception creates
our reality. So if our perception is that something is missing,
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our external surroundings will validate that perception. Right, Our consciousness
creates our reality. Means that our soul is like a
moving projector, and whatever consciousness we subscribe to that gets
projected to our environment, to the situations that we encounter,
to our relationships. And that's why doing this internal work
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is so powerful. That if you can catch yourself, and
that to me is the essence of tekoun healing. If
you can catch a perception or a belief system that
is false, or maybe it was true when you were young,
but it's no longer true and valid, and in fact,
usually the ones those belief systems that have expired are
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actually counter productive. They actually hurt us more than they
serve us anymore. Then we have the ability to release them,
and then that perception no longer colors our reality.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And in the.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Teachings of Cavala ninety.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I mean, maybe ninety is a high number.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Maybe seventy five percent of the work is internal and
the other twenty five percent is using tools that help
us strengthen the internal.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So the funny thing is, and I share this all
the time in classes, nobody can tell when you know
if you're working on transforming your perception of something that's
not something that's not a process that's visible from the
outside until it results in a shift in you. So
you can't tell, you know, if I'm smiling at you.
(14:11):
You can't tell if I'm raging inside, or if I'm
wishing you peace and blessings. And for me, the idea
of jealousy is, I am I reject what the universe
feels is right for me right now. I would like
another reality. And by rejecting the universe's reality, I require
(14:34):
I would say, I would call it a more bumpy
road to reach what the blessings that are genuinely mine,
because I'm busy on focused on blessings that aren't necessarily
for me, even though they might be beautiful and they
might be pleasant for whoever they actually belong to, and
so to me, I always see this week that there
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is this like comparison bug that people get. Why am
I not there yet? Why am I this I thought
I would be X, Y and Z by this age.
Why are my siblings or my cousins, or my coworkers
or my neighbors achieving what I want to achieve?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
What's wrong with me?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And looking at that comparison mindset really sets us up,
like your words of like lack mindset. Right when you're
comparing your progress to anybody else, it's you know, maybe
it's cliche, but it's like comparing apples to oranges. You
can't really compare them. They're not meant for the same role.
(15:38):
In that same way, when we compare ourselves to others,
we're discounting lifetimes and lifetimes of work.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
We have no idea.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Why they're in their seat right now and we're in
this seat where we are. And at the same time,
by busying ourselves with it, you know, you think about
the bandwidth that we dedicate to looking at what other
people are doing and worrying about keeping up with the
joneses and all that stuff. We could be putting that
bandwidth into something that will be fruitful and not detrimental.
(16:09):
So I wonder esther for you in your work with
people and how you see that process of releasing jealousy
or releasing that need to compete or perform relative to
other people. How does that work look?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Okay, Well, so you mentioned something that's very interesting, this
idea of I'm not enough, because that's the main lack, right,
And again I think cancers fly that flag a lot.
But in my experience, we all have an aeron arview,
like I don't know somebody who thinks they're enough.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
To be honest, we're all or maybe in some areas
and better than others, but we all kind of feel
like we're not enough. And again that's the lack right. So,
and I love what you said.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
About the idea of being internal versus external, because the
thing is that that lack does not feel comfortable at all.
And again as cancers, but it doesn't feel comfortable for anybody.
But but as cancers, you feel the feelings extra and
you feel your body extra, so it feels.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Even more uncomfortable. So we're like, Okay, let me focus
outside so that I don't have to be focused inside
and feeling that pain. So many times when I do
that in your child work, one.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Of the main things is let's let's go inside and
feel that discomfort.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Let's feel that pain that you've been avoiding, because that
is the inner child. It's like crying for attention.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's like please see me, please hear me, and it's
extremely uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
But that's where the healing is. So many times that's
really just the first step. Let's let's like like like
let's well, actually, no, the first step and this is
this is again very cancerean.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
One of the things about cancers that we need to
feel safe and the body needs to feel safe. So
one of the first things I do, like in workshops
or sessions, is like help our body to feel safe,
because if not, you're definitely not gonna want to go
towards what's uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
And then after we were feeling safe, and then we
use like the tools and we use like cabalistic too,
like the czar and breath work or whatever it is
that we can do visualization, et cetera. And once we
feel safe, let's go, let's go towards that place of lack.
Let's go to that place where you don't feel enough.
Let's go to how it shows up in your body,
how is it feeling in your body. Let's go and
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touch upon that discomfort and that pain and that lack
that you're looking to fill outside of yourself, and let's
figure out how we can instead. You know that lack
is just concealing your light.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Let's figure out instead what healing needs to be done
so that we could reveal the light.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That's actually being concealed by the lack. And in this
whole work, it's so important to be very compassionate with
ourselves because.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Most of the time, these belief systems and these reactive
patterns of thinking, behavior and feeling that push us to
look towards the outside to fill that void and to
fill that lack and to compare ourselves and et cetera.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
There are survival mechanisms and again they're born from a wound,
and so especially when we're kids and we don't we
really don't know how to deal with it. The only
way we know how to deal with it is in
the survival mechanism that are like, let's compare ourselves.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
There's look how we can fix it from the outside.
Let's try to get what somebody else has. Maybe we'll
feel better, right, So there's to.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Connect in our child and to have a lot of compassion.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
And that's also one of the things that I first
start out any session, any workshop, it's let's make sure
that like, let's frame it as a time to be
very compassionate with ourselves, because once you start kind of
like doing this work, you realize it, Like, you know,
behind any form of negative or reactive behavior, there's always.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Pain, and it's it's reactive, it's survival mechanism and defense
mechanism against this pain, right, and you know, we just
can't judge ourselves or judge others for the pain that
they're carrying.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
So the more you go inside, the more you you
learn that you can't judge others. But also the more
you go inside, you realize that we all have light.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
And when you compare yourselves to others and you envy others,
you are first of all not seeing that they also
have their own pain, and you're not.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Taking that into consideration. But you're putting your light aside,
you know, even more, and you're you're like, you're missing
out on your own blessings and your own worth and
destiny and purpose because you're so busy looking outside. Right, So, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Could say, all of the gun killing for sure, definitely
in their child is definitely an expiration.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Of the inside. It's going. It's really going inside and
creating a safe space to touch upon the lack and
the wounds that make us want to compare ourselves to others,
that make us want to feel we're not They create
these belief systems of I am not enough, I don't
have enough, what's wrong with me? That's also a big one.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You mentioned it as well, that make me want to
want to have what somebody else has or maybe be
what somebody else is.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Right that you know, if anybody, if you've ever thought
to yourself, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Or why do I keep doing that?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Or you have that like angry voice inside your head
that's disappointed and critical, that's to me, that is a
neon light pointing to inner work child to be done,
because that not compassionate voice that somehow we allowed to
(21:40):
live renfree in our heads, that sits there and narrates,
you know, pessimistically narrates what's going on in our movie.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I think that that's part of the work of this week.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And of course carrying it into our lives in general.
But really looking at that voice, because it's the same
voice that's going to say, you know, you need to
work harder than everybody else to be successful, to be worthy,
You need to hustle harder to promote yourself, because why
would anybody want to work with you, or know you
(22:15):
or be married to you? Right, So that voice, I mean,
I would love to hear from you esther if you
have recommendations for people, or how you guide individuals out
of a judgmental or jealous space into a more compassionate
and loving space. But to me, the first work, the
(22:36):
first step is cultivating an experience. And I say experience
because I think a lot of people do it mentally.
A lot of people have a logical gratitude journal that
they might write write in every single day. But if
we don't feel the gratitude in our body, right, going
(22:59):
back to what you said, if we don't feel it
and it's not authentic for us, it can't work for us.
It's simply an external mechanism. Like I don't know, I'm
not going to eat sugar for thirty days. That's great,
and I'm sure it will yield wonderful benefits, But what
happens after the thirty days is that gratitude journal isn't
(23:20):
a part of cultivating a sentiment, an experience of gratitude
and feeling fortunate and looking at the very essence of
who you are as radiant and good. Anything else isn't
gonna help. So I wonder, from your experience or what
you share with your students or people that you work with,
what are some practical ways we can offset the influence
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of jealousy and comparison in our lives.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
So usually I think mindset is always like you wherever
you feel jealous, because let's be honest, we all feel jealous,
we all feel envious. It's a sign that there's pain
behind that. So the first thing is to understand that
the problem. It's funny because when we learn.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
About reactivity writing Kabala one two three, we think that
the being jealous itself is what is my reactivity or
being envious in my reactivity, And it is, But it's
already the effect the.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Jealousy and the envy and possessiveness that might come by
the way jealousy comes with possessiveness, which cano again be
a very Concirean situation. Here is the effect. It's a
reactive behavior.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But it's the effect of that reactive belief system that's
behind there.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
And I always.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Say, this is a protection shield. You're being envious, you're
being jealous, you're being possessive, you're comparing yourself to others.
It's a way of protecting yourself. So the first thing
is I would ask you, like, what are you protecting
yourself from?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
You know what? How is this a survival mechanism? And
I think when you shifted to that, it automatically makes
you be a little bit more compassionate because you're like, oh, wow, yeah,
there's some pain behind her. There's some wound or some
hurt that happened to me.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
And the way that I protect myself from the pain,
the way that I survived the pain is by being
jealous and judging myself and connecting to the lack instead
of the instead of the abundance, and compare myself to others.
Like I mean, I can tell you get my experience
and my five planets and cancer in my chart, and
it's also yes, very present in my family.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Both my husband and my eldest daughter have a rising cancer.
There's so much cancer.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So much water in our inn the household, and uh,
like I know for myself, for example, is that one
of the wounds I have as.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
A kid, unfortunately, is that I was very disappointed by
my parents often, like and I'm talking about disappointments like
you know, not showing.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Up for my school performance or being very late, or
my father said he would do something, but it was
an empty promise and then he wouldn't do it, and it.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Just kind of like and also hearing that from my
from my mother, I think that she had that same
experience with her parents, so it kind of like it's like, oh, well,
life is disappointing. So I don't want to believe in
myself or step up into my power or whatever or
really desire something because I'm going to be disappointed.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Like I don't want to set up to expectations because
I'm going to be disappointed. So I'd rather just play
it safe, play it small, and make myself small, or
focus on what.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I don't have and and and focus on my lack
and what I am not because it's somehow safer than
taking the risk of appreciating, than taking the risk of
saying I am worthy, I am valuable, and let's step
up there, you know, like let's let's.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Shine, because what if I get disappointed, or what if
I disappoint somebody else, or what if I don't meet
my own expectations? Right, So this is how I say
that that playing small and comparing myself to others and
and focusing on my lack.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
It's a protection shield.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
It's a defense mechanism towards the greatest appointment I felt
as a kid from my own parents.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Okay, And again here comes at the coon part where
this is not a therapy session. We're gonna blame my
parents for my life. It's the idea of like, Okay,
I did choose my parents. I they they This is
part of what the way I'm coming to reveal light
is by overcoming this belief system. Right. So it's not
like it's not about about now I'm gonna like, you know,
(27:30):
it's not a blaming my parents and dumping on them.
It's just understanding where it comes from. And then again
there's a lot more compassion when I realized, yeah, you know, one,
as a kid, I was very disappointed constantly, you know,
and that made me feel very unsafe. So of course
I feel the way I feel now. It just kind
of like that understanding automatically for me at least, it
brings more compassion, and then from that compassion place, I
(27:50):
can start Okay, well, let's how do we heal this?
You know? How how can I work on being okay
with being disappointed?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Right? How could I work with being okay and feeling
safe stepping up and taking certain risks and appreciating and
not like and not like protecting myself with black and
low self.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Esteem and being okay with the fact that doing that, yes,
it might create some might disappoint but it's not the
end of the world, you know, Like, I'm not the
little kid that needed needed that.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You know, they couldn't handle disappointment or there wasn't taught
to deal with disappointment.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I know, not making sense I should answer your question?
Or did I just go resolutely absolutely?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And you brought up a really important distinction that I'm
glad it's out there now because in Kabbalah, we don't
we don't assign responsibility on who we are to our
upbringing and to our childhood. We know that, as you said,
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the soul before coming down to the physical reality, the
ticun is established. It's not a product of astrology, and
my childhood. It is determines my astrology, makeup my childhood,
my parents the way that they raise me. So to me,
that's the most empowering understand one of the most empowering
(29:12):
teachings in Kabbalah because it means that I volunteer for this.
This is perfect for the healing that I need to
go through, and it's perfect for the light that I
am meant to shine through my healing. And that's why
I chose parents who would create this environment, so that
I could have a conscious programming of jealousy or whatever
(29:33):
it is, and then as an adult go on to
heal it. So and specifically with this one. You know
that we could pick any other topic, right, but when
you and I hope this doesn't sound too religious, but
I always think about jealousy as for whatever reason, the
Light of the Creator put jealousy up there with not murdering,
(29:56):
not stealing, not like it's it's in the top ten
dues and don'ts from the light of the Creator. You
should not want what your neighbor has not because that's
not nice. Be a nice person, you know, don't be
a bad person. But because of the collateral damage it
does on our own connection to the light of the Creator.
(30:19):
It's essentially saying, you know, I want all these amazing things,
and I want to be influential and inspiring for people,
and I want to do great things in the world.
But God over here, you messed up. I'm supposed to
have that package, not this package. And so on one hand,
we're trying to work with the universe and work with
the Creator and draw greater fulfillment and positivity. And at
(30:43):
the same time we're telling that system that we're asking
from you made a mistake or this doesn't work, or
here's a glitch you know that needs to be worked out.
I'm supposed to have that situation or that person or
that job or whatever it is. And when we talk
about out revealing more light in our lives, alignment is
(31:04):
such a key thing, right alignment to such an being
aligned with our soul, with the light, with positivity is
really the starting point to even be able to be
more compassionate with myself, more forgiving, more understanding, more empathetic.
And so this whole conversation goes back to something that
(31:24):
we repeat week after week after week. Do you really feel,
objectively speaking, that you're not where you're supposed to be,
you don't have what you're supposed to have, and how
does that criticism of the divine plan interfere with your
alignment with you, with your expressing the light within you
(31:49):
and finding that Why we share things like you know,
we choose our parents and we choose our astrology sign
it's to better understand it's not a glitch, it's not
a mistake, it's not an accident. That package is not
meant to be yours. The way you know you're in
the right place at the right time, with exactly what
you need is because that's where you are right now
and you're completely able to shift it and transform it,
(32:13):
not from a place of lack, but from a place
of I have everything. I am exactly where I'm meant
to be. And now what can I do from that
place of wholeness and appreciation and gratitude? How can I receive?
How can I be a channel for even more goodness?
As I want to be mindful of the time. Can
(32:33):
you share with us a little bit about the work
that you do every month in your inner childitycooonnealing Seminars.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, so, actually I like to call it more of
a workshop because it's not really like a class. Basically,
it's based actually after.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Off of something that our teacher Karen Berg did before
she left this world, where she did some work with
an inner child of each sign and kind of like
gave us like uh archetype of the wounded inner child
of each sign.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
So I kind of like took that and and.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Joined it with the Tokun healing kind of like work
that I do. And what we do is that if
it really becomes like a healing circle, it's really beautiful
and it's on zoom, it's live, and I take like
the archetype of the wounded in a child of that month.
In this case it would be cancer, right, and I
have I have the participants kind of like reflect a
(33:27):
little bit upon upon the energy of the month and
ask them like some questions.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Relate to that. And then what we do is that
again I always start off with let's feel safe, because if.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
We're gonna go towards the uncomfortable and towards the wounds,
are you know that that have sent sent us previously
to fight a flight mode in our nervous system. We
need to first make sure a nervous system feels safe
and then afterwards, I use kind of like a phrase
that I come up with for that month, and we
feel it in our bodies and we use we use
that as a way and and again you'd say it
(33:59):
sounds like you logical, but really our body takes us
back to the moments where those wounds were inflicted and
we can see how clearly it affects us or it
affected us. Usually I have a volunteer, be kind of
like the guinea pig and do the work in front
of everybody, and then it's incredible what.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Might come up. You know, It's like again like these
memories that you didn't know.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
That you had put away, and then you're like, oh
my god, this is the moment I started believing this
about myself. This a moment I started to believe this
about life. And from then on it became like such.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
A reactive pattern of being right and when you see it,
you can heal it. So we do it. We're starting
to do it every month.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
This will be the third one, and yeah, it's this Thursday,
the twenty sixth at five pm Pacific, eight pm Eastern,
and it's against Live.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
It's on Zoom. And then basically I walk you through it.
I mean also depending on what answers you give me.
So I'm like, okay, let's feel this in your body.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I mean, I'm not going to do the whole thing here,
but I have them connect to their body and then
they start saying, well, this is what I feel, this
is where it takes. So I said, okay, let's let's
connect to the new child in that moment. So say like,
it creates this sensation in my body.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
And when I connect to my body, it takes me
back to when I was three years old.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And I had to say goodbye to my mother to
go into preschool whatever. Right, So I said, okay, let's
connect to that three year old you. Let's talk to
that three year old you. What does it want to say?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
What is it holding on to? Still? And we just
kind of like do that work.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
And I base it a lot on what the people
are answering regarding.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
So it's very it's kind of like.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Interactive.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's interactive. It's not exactly personal.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I do have personal te cool healing sessions focused on
the inner child, kind of like when my husband has
the cool healing sessions. So I also do it that way,
but I do it that I focus a lot on this,
while he might focus more on a more like the systemic.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Healing, which is also very powerful and useful. And I mean, okay, if.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
If you're listening and this sounds interesting to you, you
can join Esther's Month of Cancer Session live interactive zooms
this Thursday, June twenty six at five. If you don't
want to do it in a group, or you're interested
in having a more personalized experience, Esther also does that
work one on one individually, and we will put the
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links so you can learn more about both of those
opportunities in this week's show notes as well as on
the homepage at Weekly energy boost dot com. Est any
final words for our friends this week, because they navigate
the the terrain.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
What I always like people to take away from whenever
I do anything related to the new Child is, first
of all, it's the beginning of a journey. So it's
all we're going to heal the new child in like
a one session type of thing.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Or one conversation type of thing. But what I hope
that this leaves everybody with is.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
First a more compassionate view of ourselves. Is because we know,
we understand that most of our reactivity is bored of
a need to survive and to defend ourselves against some
sort of pain we went through and be like, you
know what, I'm this way, but I'm this way for
a reason, And again is not to blame my parents,
or my childhood or my but just to understand that
there's you know, it's not that I'm crazy, it is
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my I'm not crazy or I'm not there's nothing.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Wrong with me.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
It's just a natural response to what I lived through.
But the good thing is that once I see it,
I can heal it. And the healing is the revealing
of light itself. So I hope it helps everybody to
be more compassionate with themselves and also more curious.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I think that's the thing, like more curious about, as
you said, going inside versus outside and being like, wow,
if I feel this way, why do I feel this way?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Not just say I'm being reactive, which we can do
in the Cabala Center, right like why am I feeling
this way?
Speaker 3 (37:37):
What's behind this reactive behavior? So if I tend to
be jealous and I tend to compare myself to others,
what's behind that? How does this serve me? When do
I When did I start being this way? When did
I learn to be this way? Where is this rooted?
Speaker 7 (37:51):
And just kind of like focus on going more towards
the inside and just being more curious about about what
we're feeling and even our bodily sensations, Like my belly
hurts when I, you know, whenever I need to talk
in public, right, which like, okay, but what is my
belly saying?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
There's there's a reason why my belly hurts?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Right?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Oh? If I even like anxiety, right I I suffer
from anxiety or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Suffer.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It's the coin with anxiety, and it's like there's a
pro where it's like a physical thing. It's not like
in my head I'm stressed, like my it's a physical reaction.
So okay, So body, what are you trying to tell
me when you send me this anxious you know sensations,
there is some there is a message behind it.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
What is that message is? What is needing to be healed?
What light do you want to reveal that you're calling
the attention to it by these physical sensations or emotional
sensations or thought patterns or behavior, you know, emotions, feelings,
I said that already, right, So I think these are
the two things that I would really encourage.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
People is compassion and curiosity.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I'm so excited for our listeners who are ready to
take this step, to begin this journey of and I'm
sure everyone who's listening the reason you're listening is because
you're on a journey of transformation already. But to be
able to implement and incorporate this approach, which to me
when I heard about it was very new and very
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very powerful to see it from that lens as that
younger version of me still needing to defend or protect itself,
and how I can hug that inner little me and
no longer need those patterns and behaviors.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I mean, I'm.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Oversimplifying it a little bit, but the process of embracing
that little me is profoundly transformational and esther. I can't
thank you enough for being here with me.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Thank you for having me. And also catch my podcast
in Spanish. If you speak Spanish or know someone who
speaks Spanish.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yes, well, I will include that in the show notes
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It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
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