In the bustling heart of São Paulo, finding moments of peace is essential. In this episode of Why São Paulo, Emily chats with Natalhia Cuturic, a yoga instructor at Vidya Yoga, about creating balance in a fast-paced city. They explore hidden sanctuaries like bookstores and parks, the kindness of Paulistanos, and the joy of slowing down. Whether you're a local or visiting, this episode is packed with insights on how to recharge and connect with the soul of São Paulo.
🌿 Highlights:
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Natalia’s favorite peaceful spot in the city: Martins Fontes Bookstore on Paulista Avenue 📚
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The warmth and kindness of Paulistanos—how they embrace newcomers
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The importance of slowing down in a city that never stops
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How yoga and meditation help balance urban chaos
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The power of human connection in friendships and family life
Tune in for a heartwarming conversation that captures the magic of São Paulo!
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(00:01):
Welcome to the Why Sao Paulo podcast,
the show where we explore the magic of Sao Paulo through its people and places.
I'm Emily Witt, a legal recruiter working remotely in Brazil where I live part time.
Today, I'm thrilled to introduce our guest, Natalia Chutureach, an incredible instructorat Vidya Yoga here in Sao Paulo.
(00:26):
She teaches in my neighborhood and I first met her in 2023.
when I was just settling into life here.
At the time, I barely knew any Portuguese, and on top of that, I've always struggled withfollowing directions, which makes yoga a challenge in any language.
I'll never forget one of my first classes with Natalia.
(00:48):
She came over to correct my form and started speaking in Portuguese.
I was trying so hard to understand, but she immediately picked up on the fact that I wasan English speaker.
Without missing a beat,
she switched to English, speaking with such warmth and kindness that it made a lastingimpression on me.
It was one of those small but profound moments that made me feel truly welcomed here inSao Paulo, and I still think of it whenever I'm facing challenges here.
(01:16):
Since then, we've become friends, and we've gradually started speaking more and more inPortuguese, but that first experience, the way she made me feel at ease, stayed with me.
In today's episode, we're talking about something essential for life in a big dynamic citylike Sao Paulo.
Finding refuge, whether it's through yoga, green spaces, or hidden corners of the citythat offer peace amidst the chaos, Natalia shares her insights on where and how to
(01:45):
recharge.
I'm so excited for you to hear this conversation.
Now let's dive in.
I'm so happy to have you join me on the show.
I know we've been talking about this for a long time and super excited to get started.
So I'm going to ask the question that I ask everyone on the show and I've been followingup by trying to visit each guest at their special spot.
(02:11):
But do you have a place in Sao Paulo?
that holds special meaning for you that you feel a very strong connection to that you wantto share with the audience.
Yes, thank you very much for the invitation.
I'm so happy to be here with you.
(02:33):
Yes, I have a special place where I really like to go.
It's a library.
there inside it's a coffee so you can go and sit to have a coffee and stop a little bitread the book or part of and enjoy you know it's a calm place, it's silent so I really
(03:00):
like that it calls Martins Fontes it's in Avenida Paulista and Paulista Avenue sorry
And it's so nice place, you know, we have outside like a lot of movement, people, cars andeverything, it's going on in the seat.
(03:21):
But when you go inside, you are like in peace.
So I really like this place
I would love more places that I can go to for peace here.
It's a very busy city and I'm sometimes rushing to different places and it's nice to have.
And plus for me being around books, I actually find just sitting in bookstores.
(03:43):
to be very therapeutic.
so the next question that we have talked about very deeply and wanted to get a little bitmore insight from you is you've traveled to other places in the world, you've seen other
cities and similar to me, we have this special
(04:06):
calling I call it to the city of Sao Paulo and there's something quite beautiful andmagical here that you and I are both tapped into and explore and can you tell me a little
bit about what some of those elements are that make you appreciate living here?
(04:29):
You also mentioned you grew up in the area so you have
the history of having lived here your whole life.
And I would just love to hear what you love so much about this city that makes you feel athome and it's the place where you wanna be.
Yeah, it's a lot of things but Since the moment I went out from Sao Paulo and I came backI started to look with different eyes and now I appreciate more
(05:02):
the things how it is here, like people is nice and...
They have a good relationship with each other, you know?
We like to help each other if you cross someone in the street and someone comes to you toask, oh, do you know where is this street?
(05:23):
The person will treat you really well and try to help you.
So this is something which I really love in here.
People are nice with each other.
Sometimes in the traffic, not that much, but it is good to be in places you know.
nothing like the New York traffic.
(05:45):
I don't hear the same honking and screaming.
yes, everyone is yelling.
Everyone honks in New York.
It took a little while for me to get used to here.
There was traffic, but no one was banging their horns at each other.
It's a friendlier traffic.
exactly.
(06:05):
even if here is like a too much sometimes, but it's not the level of New York.
Here it's easier.
So I would say these people can be really nice.
And also something which I really, really love here is the weather because it's hot.
(06:26):
warm and also like connection with weather is everywhere you go you have something to dolike if you want a coffee you have a coffee here you have some options you can go enjoy if
you want to go to the gym you have some couple of options to choose and go and meet people
(06:50):
restaurant, mall, park, everywhere we want to go like like cultural
Zoom, have a lot of options, theater and...
everything you know, everything you want you have here so I really like this cultural partlike we are so rich in this part you know we have museums really nice artists here and yes
(07:21):
this is
some things which I like here but I can't stay here hours saying about everything which Ilike in Sao Paulo because here is a really really special place for me.
Yeah.
And in fact, you were talking about the going to the gym and we met at the yoga studio.
(07:44):
And I think I remember this is a few years ago now, a couple of years ago, I had, I wasjust starting coming to Sao Paulo and you were so kind to come over and help me.
I was not, um,
as fluent as I am now in Portuguese and I was struggling and you were so kind and you cameover and you helped me explain some of the things to me in English, some of the concepts
(08:13):
that were difficult and it was so sweet.
now that I've been going to that studio more and more and getting more comfortable withthe language, also I noticed that everyone there is very warm and
and we'll talk to you before class and after class.
I've met so many nice people just waiting for the class or in the class.
(08:37):
And there's a warmth that I feel not just in class, but all over the city.
And it's something I miss terribly when I'm not here.
There's this, I don't know how to explain the feeling, but.
I feel like everyone is just like, know, tell me about yourself or, you know, and youknow, if they hear the accent that I speak English, it's a really warm and wonderful
(09:00):
place.
thank you for that warm, you know, I remember that feeling.
I was very new to the city and it was so kind of you when you came over.
So I really appreciated that.
Thank you so much.
We Brazilians, we like to, we have open heart, you know.
(09:21):
I can say this, when I traveled to other places, was especially in some places in Europe,I was quite impressed because I didn't expect to see how people are
they don't create connections and here we can, even if it's for some minutes, we try toopen up and try to talk and help and this is something which makes the life like lighter
(09:52):
for me and for everyone who cross by my way, you know.
And I think particularly to something that I want to point out is there's the warmth andthe openness and also
Even if you're struggling with the language, which I do quite often, everyone is so kindand open and trying to either understand me or point me in the right direction or give me
(10:20):
some tips in Portuguese.
And I've never once felt uncomfortable by having messed up a word that might not be right.
It makes you feel more comfortable actually trying to speak the language that you don'tfeel belittled because it might not be 100 % right.
And I think in other regions of the world, there are different attitudes about languageadaptation and something here people are very kind and always trying to get you to the
(10:52):
right place and make you feel comfortable.
It's really quite beautiful.
so you have a very, very busy day.
You're up early, you're teaching, you have to start your classes at the crack of dawn, aswe say, and then you keep going and you are also giving your heart in your classes.
(11:14):
After the day is done or even during the day, what types of things here do you do, whetherit be in your house or for people that are in this large city that we're in?
Can you explain how you replenish your batteries here in this big, enormous city?
(11:37):
Yes, one of my favorite ways is to do what to practice what they teach so I really like togo to yoga studio and to make a class and sometimes to have like a coffee with friends
from work or with friends which I like you know
(12:02):
make a dinner at home.
really like here like I'm living in a place where I have a nice view and I can see thecity and I like to invite my friends to come home and we can enjoy together to eat drink
together and enjoy the time you know
So this is some things which I really like to do.
(12:25):
also sometimes I like to go to the park and to go to Paulista, I really like to go to dothis and to walk there around, when it's Sunday, so we can walk in the middle of the
street because it's closed for cars.
(12:48):
So
There are some things which I like and also like to go to the pool here in my building.
We have a pool so when it's hot we can enjoy there.
I think that's it.
You know, to recharge the energies and...
So this place where I told at the beginning it's one of the favorite like I sit there Itake my book and I Forget about a bit everything, you know
(13:14):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, reading really is such a beautiful way to escape from the world and keep your mindengaged.
I find when I'm in a good book, it can almost feel like an aspect of meditation.
If you are deep in the words of the, you can sort of block out.
(13:35):
anything else that is going on, which is always helpful for me because my mind is alwaysall over a million different places at once.
another thing that is really beautiful about Sao Paulo and the country, and I've felt thisfor years, is there's such a joy of life and
(13:59):
and having fun.
And I know it's a very busy city.
It's a hustling.
It's a city that hustles.
But I think one of the things that also sets it apart is this element of how importantfamily and friends are.
And I'd love for you to talk about that and how that has been in your life and been verymuch a part of your upbringing.
(14:25):
Yes, this is impressed because when I see my family, I was born here and a big part of myfamily as well and we have this connection, you know, we like to see each other like in
the weekend and to stay together and to travel together and to spend some time, you know.
(14:49):
enjoying time in family and also with the friends it's i feel like the friendship and cani say family ship it's it does exist or not
Yeah, family dynamic.
Yeah.
I like that word.
(15:09):
Fam-ship.
That's a good word.
Yeah.
Makes sense to me.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
Yes, so this relationship with family and friendship for me is like a garden, you know,you go there and they'll put some water and take care and then...
(15:32):
to live there with sunny days and then you go around so for us it's really important tohave this connection like to make our roots stronger you know
Mm-hmm.
with family but also with friends because we are learning all the time with therelationship and we are changing experiences so I see it's so easy to make friends in Sao
(16:01):
Paulo like you go to one place to another like I started to work
somewhere and I create a relationship with some people there and we start to see eachother and enjoy and change and so I don't I don't know like
enemies you know I maybe my personality helps a lot with this but also I can see that it'seasier for me to make friends and even if it's not someone really close you know but
(16:36):
someone which you can see and talk
going back to this question of family and friends and finding the happiness, the joy withthose moments, I think it's quite easy here, and we've talked about this at length, where
material themes...
(16:57):
become less important when you have that garden to go to.
can you explain a little bit more about how you've lived and what you're doing now?
in terms of the lifestyle.
think we had talked about the minimalist and concentrating on the moments and less so onthe things.
(17:24):
Yes, this for me it's really important to think about because we are living in amaterialistic world not just talking about Sao Paulo which is also materialistic but
It's really important to see point you can go with this because it's not healthy to bematerialistic.
(17:52):
Especially when you avoid to take care of you or to take care of your health or your mindjust because you want to have more and more and
and we need this to live, to survive and we like money because it gives us the possibilityto do a lot of things but it's not everything, you know?
(18:17):
And I learned this through my process in the life because I came from a really poor familyand...
beginning when I started to work for my first job I was thinking wow I need to make a lotof money you know because I was without this and then I wanted to replace some time which
(18:41):
I didn't have enough but then with time I realized that the healthy is really importantwithout my healthy or my mind in balance
even breathe, you know, I cannot make money if I'm not here, if I'm good, feeling good, Icannot like make money.
(19:05):
And it's not just about money.
It's about like to have a really nice life, you know.
So I started to ask myself if I'm waking up and living the life of my dreams, because if Ican have
good food to eat and nice time to sleep and nice time to meditate to do the things which Ilove to do not just thinking about material life you know but also I think prosperity it's
(19:35):
about the lifestyle you can live like I have time to go to the park in the middle of theweek and breathe a little bit of this air connect with the nature or
sit down in the coffee and you know slow down a little bit because I really love thisrhythm of Sao Paulo you know with everything working on
(20:00):
but also we need to learn how to slow down and breathe a little bit and then we go back tothe flow you know.
So I think life is balance
these last three years going more deep in meditation and deep in myself and asking whichis really important, what is really important for me now, you know?
(20:25):
Okay, I want to work and I love my work, I love what I'm doing and...
Also I want to enjoy life and sleep well and drinking a lot of water and do, you know,human things and natural things.
do you have any tips or advice for someone who's new to the city or new to eithertraveling or visiting something that you think would be good for them to know as someone
(20:53):
who hasn't been here before?
I think if I can say something I would say for who is coming here for first time justenjoy São Paulo you know go to many places as you can here we have a lot of options like
if you are vegan you can enjoy vegan places if you are not you can enjoy the places whichyou like we have
(21:20):
many options, you know, and I think it's just have a look.
Everything is so easy here, you know, you put in Google Maps and then you can find and itcan go so easy and you can ask to someone and this person can help you as well.
Like it can be a Uber or a taxi.
(21:41):
They help you.
with technology, we can get to these things much easier now, you know, so I'm so happy andgoing back to the the slowing down, one of my favorite memories I've had here is when we
went and we had
breakfast together, went to yoga class and we sat and we talked and it was such abeautiful day and we just enjoyed the nice weather and the food and the conversation and
(22:14):
it really brought me joy.
So, no, and I'm so happy that we met and...
And I struggled with my Portuguese underst- hey, right?
Like, it all worked out.
I can be a little hard on myself sometimes with the language.
(22:35):
So, so thank you.
And yeah, thanks for joining me.
And I look forward to seeing you again soon.
We'll go check out your special spot.
Thank you so much, I really loved as well our breakfast and don't worry about yourlanguage because we are together.
Yeah, thank you.
(22:57):
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It's always so nice.
Okay.
Well, Ate, see you soon.
Ciao, ciao.
bye.
Thank you so much for tuning in to this episode of Why São Paulo?
Exploring Brazil's magic through its people and places.
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(23:21):
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(23:49):
Until next time, take care and keep exploring.
Welcome to the Why Sao Paulo podcast,
the show where we explore the magic of Sao Paulo through its people and places.
I'm Emily Witt, a legal recruiter working remotely in Brazil where I live part time.
Today, I'm thrilled to introduce our guest, Natalia Chutureach, an incredible instructorat Vidya Yoga here in Sao Paulo.
(00:26):
She teaches in my neighborhood and I first met her in 2023.
when I was just settling into life here.
At the time, I barely knew any Portuguese, and on top of that, I've always struggled withfollowing directions, which makes yoga a challenge in any language.
I'll never forget one of my first classes with Natalia.
(00:48):
She came over to correct my form and started speaking in Portuguese.
I was trying so hard to understand, but she immediately picked up on the fact that I wasan English speaker.
Without missing a beat,
she switched to English, speaking with such warmth and kindness that it made a lastingimpression on me.
It was one of those small but profound moments that made me feel truly welcomed here inSao Paulo, and I still think of it whenever I'm facing challenges here.
(01:16):
Since then, we've become friends, and we've gradually started speaking more and more inPortuguese, but that first experience, the way she made me feel at ease, stayed with me.
In today's episode, we're talking about something essential for life in a big dynamic citylike Sao Paulo.
Finding refuge, whether it's through yoga, green spaces, or hidden corners of the citythat offer peace amidst the chaos, Natalia shares her insights on where and how to
(01:45):
recharge.
I'm so excited for you to hear this conversation.
Now let's dive in.
I'm so happy to have you join me on the show.
I know we've been talking about this for a long time and super excited to get started.
So I'm going to ask the question that I ask everyone on the show and I've been followingup by trying to visit each guest at their special spot.
(02:11):
But do you have a place in Sao Paulo?
that holds special meaning for you that you feel a very strong connection to that you wantto share with the audience.
Yes, thank you very much for the invitation.
I'm so happy to be here with you.
(02:33):
Yes, I have a special place where I really like to go.
It's a library.
there inside it's a coffee so you can go and sit to have a coffee and stop a little bitread the book or part of and enjoy you know it's a calm place, it's silent so I really
(03:00):
like that it calls Martins Fontes it's in Avenida Paulista and Paulista Avenue sorry
And it's so nice place, you know, we have outside like a lot of movement, people, cars andeverything, it's going on in the seat.
(03:21):
But when you go inside, you are like in peace.
So I really like this place
I would love more places that I can go to for peace here.
It's a very busy city and I'm sometimes rushing to different places and it's nice to have.
And plus for me being around books, I actually find just sitting in bookstores.
(03:43):
to be very therapeutic.
so the next question that we have talked about very deeply and wanted to get a little bitmore insight from you is you've traveled to other places in the world, you've seen other
cities and similar to me, we have this special
(04:06):
calling I call it to the city of Sao Paulo and there's something quite beautiful andmagical here that you and I are both tapped into and explore and can you tell me a little
bit about what some of those elements are that make you appreciate living here?
(04:29):
You also mentioned you grew up in the area so you have
the history of having lived here your whole life.
And I would just love to hear what you love so much about this city that makes you feel athome and it's the place where you wanna be.
Yeah, it's a lot of things but Since the moment I went out from Sao Paulo and I came backI started to look with different eyes and now I appreciate more
(05:02):
the things how it is here, like people is nice and...
They have a good relationship with each other, you know?
We like to help each other if you cross someone in the street and someone comes to you toask, oh, do you know where is this street?
(05:23):
The person will treat you really well and try to help you.
So this is something which I really love in here.
People are nice with each other.
Sometimes in the traffic, not that much, but it is good to be in places you know.
nothing like the New York traffic.
(05:45):
I don't hear the same honking and screaming.
yes, everyone is yelling.
Everyone honks in New York.
It took a little while for me to get used to here.
There was traffic, but no one was banging their horns at each other.
It's a friendlier traffic.
exactly.
(06:05):
even if here is like a too much sometimes, but it's not the level of New York.
Here it's easier.
So I would say these people can be really nice.
And also something which I really, really love here is the weather because it's hot.
(06:26):
warm and also like connection with weather is everywhere you go you have something to dolike if you want a coffee you have a coffee here you have some options you can go enjoy if
you want to go to the gym you have some couple of options to choose and go and meet people
(06:50):
restaurant, mall, park, everywhere we want to go like like cultural
Zoom, have a lot of options, theater and...
everything you know, everything you want you have here so I really like this cultural partlike we are so rich in this part you know we have museums really nice artists here and yes
(07:21):
this is
some things which I like here but I can't stay here hours saying about everything which Ilike in Sao Paulo because here is a really really special place for me.
Yeah.
And in fact, you were talking about the going to the gym and we met at the yoga studio.
(07:44):
And I think I remember this is a few years ago now, a couple of years ago, I had, I wasjust starting coming to Sao Paulo and you were so kind to come over and help me.
I was not, um,
as fluent as I am now in Portuguese and I was struggling and you were so kind and you cameover and you helped me explain some of the things to me in English, some of the concepts
(08:13):
that were difficult and it was so sweet.
now that I've been going to that studio more and more and getting more comfortable withthe language, also I noticed that everyone there is very warm and
and we'll talk to you before class and after class.
I've met so many nice people just waiting for the class or in the class.
(08:37):
And there's a warmth that I feel not just in class, but all over the city.
And it's something I miss terribly when I'm not here.
There's this, I don't know how to explain the feeling, but.
I feel like everyone is just like, know, tell me about yourself or, you know, and youknow, if they hear the accent that I speak English, it's a really warm and wonderful
(09:00):
place.
thank you for that warm, you know, I remember that feeling.
I was very new to the city and it was so kind of you when you came over.
So I really appreciated that.
Thank you so much.
We Brazilians, we like to, we have open heart, you know.
(09:21):
I can say this, when I traveled to other places, was especially in some places in Europe,I was quite impressed because I didn't expect to see how people are
they don't create connections and here we can, even if it's for some minutes, we try toopen up and try to talk and help and this is something which makes the life like lighter
(09:52):
for me and for everyone who cross by my way, you know.
And I think particularly to something that I want to point out is there's the warmth andthe openness and also
Even if you're struggling with the language, which I do quite often, everyone is so kindand open and trying to either understand me or point me in the right direction or give me
(10:20):
some tips in Portuguese.
And I've never once felt uncomfortable by having messed up a word that might not be right.
It makes you feel more comfortable actually trying to speak the language that you don'tfeel belittled because it might not be 100 % right.
And I think in other regions of the world, there are different attitudes about languageadaptation and something here people are very kind and always trying to get you to the
(10:52):
right place and make you feel comfortable.
It's really quite beautiful.
so you have a very, very busy day.
You're up early, you're teaching, you have to start your classes at the crack of dawn, aswe say, and then you keep going and you are also giving your heart in your classes.
(11:14):
After the day is done or even during the day, what types of things here do you do, whetherit be in your house or for people that are in this large city that we're in?
Can you explain how you replenish your batteries here in this big, enormous city?
(11:37):
Yes, one of my favorite ways is to do what to practice what they teach so I really like togo to yoga studio and to make a class and sometimes to have like a coffee with friends
from work or with friends which I like you know
(12:02):
make a dinner at home.
really like here like I'm living in a place where I have a nice view and I can see thecity and I like to invite my friends to come home and we can enjoy together to eat drink
together and enjoy the time you know
So this is some things which I really like to do.
(12:25):
also sometimes I like to go to the park and to go to Paulista, I really like to go to dothis and to walk there around, when it's Sunday, so we can walk in the middle of the
street because it's closed for cars.
(12:48):
So
There are some things which I like and also like to go to the pool here in my building.
We have a pool so when it's hot we can enjoy there.
I think that's it.
You know, to recharge the energies and...
So this place where I told at the beginning it's one of the favorite like I sit there Itake my book and I Forget about a bit everything, you know
(13:14):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, reading really is such a beautiful way to escape from the world and keep your mindengaged.
I find when I'm in a good book, it can almost feel like an aspect of meditation.
If you are deep in the words of the, you can sort of block out.
(13:35):
anything else that is going on, which is always helpful for me because my mind is alwaysall over a million different places at once.
another thing that is really beautiful about Sao Paulo and the country, and I've felt thisfor years, is there's such a joy of life and
(13:59):
and having fun.
And I know it's a very busy city.
It's a hustling.
It's a city that hustles.
But I think one of the things that also sets it apart is this element of how importantfamily and friends are.
And I'd love for you to talk about that and how that has been in your life and been verymuch a part of your upbringing.
(14:25):
Yes, this is impressed because when I see my family, I was born here and a big part of myfamily as well and we have this connection, you know, we like to see each other like in
the weekend and to stay together and to travel together and to spend some time, you know.
(14:49):
enjoying time in family and also with the friends it's i feel like the friendship and cani say family ship it's it does exist or not
Yeah, family dynamic.
Yeah.
I like that word.
(15:09):
Fam-ship.
That's a good word.
Yeah.
Makes sense to me.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
Yes, so this relationship with family and friendship for me is like a garden, you know,you go there and they'll put some water and take care and then...
(15:32):
to live there with sunny days and then you go around so for us it's really important tohave this connection like to make our roots stronger you know
Mm-hmm.
with family but also with friends because we are learning all the time with therelationship and we are changing experiences so I see it's so easy to make friends in Sao
(16:01):
Paulo like you go to one place to another like I started to work
somewhere and I create a relationship with some people there and we start to see eachother and enjoy and change and so I don't I don't know like
enemies you know I maybe my personality helps a lot with this but also I can see that it'seasier for me to make friends and even if it's not someone really close you know but
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someone which you can see and talk
going back to this question of family and friends and finding the happiness, the joy withthose moments, I think it's quite easy here, and we've talked about this at length, where
material themes...
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become less important when you have that garden to go to.
can you explain a little bit more about how you've lived and what you're doing now?
in terms of the lifestyle.
think we had talked about the minimalist and concentrating on the moments and less so onthe things.
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Yes, this for me it's really important to think about because we are living in amaterialistic world not just talking about Sao Paulo which is also materialistic but
It's really important to see point you can go with this because it's not healthy to bematerialistic.
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Especially when you avoid to take care of you or to take care of your health or your mindjust because you want to have more and more and
and we need this to live, to survive and we like money because it gives us the possibilityto do a lot of things but it's not everything, you know?
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And I learned this through my process in the life because I came from a really poor familyand...
beginning when I started to work for my first job I was thinking wow I need to make a lotof money you know because I was without this and then I wanted to replace some time which
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I didn't have enough but then with time I realized that the healthy is really importantwithout my healthy or my mind in balance
even breathe, you know, I cannot make money if I'm not here, if I'm good, feeling good, Icannot like make money.
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And it's not just about money.
It's about like to have a really nice life, you know.
So I started to ask myself if I'm waking up and living the life of my dreams, because if Ican have
good food to eat and nice time to sleep and nice time to meditate to do the things which Ilove to do not just thinking about material life you know but also I think prosperity it's
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about the lifestyle you can live like I have time to go to the park in the middle of theweek and breathe a little bit of this air connect with the nature or
sit down in the coffee and you know slow down a little bit because I really love thisrhythm of Sao Paulo you know with everything working on
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but also we need to learn how to slow down and breathe a little bit and then we go back tothe flow you know.
So I think life is balance
these last three years going more deep in meditation and deep in myself and asking whichis really important, what is really important for me now, you know?
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Okay, I want to work and I love my work, I love what I'm doing and...
Also I want to enjoy life and sleep well and drinking a lot of water and do, you know,human things and natural things.
do you have any tips or advice for someone who's new to the city or new to eithertraveling or visiting something that you think would be good for them to know as someone
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who hasn't been here before?
I think if I can say something I would say for who is coming here for first time justenjoy São Paulo you know go to many places as you can here we have a lot of options like
if you are vegan you can enjoy vegan places if you are not you can enjoy the places whichyou like we have
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many options, you know, and I think it's just have a look.
Everything is so easy here, you know, you put in Google Maps and then you can find and itcan go so easy and you can ask to someone and this person can help you as well.
Like it can be a Uber or a taxi.
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They help you.
with technology, we can get to these things much easier now, you know, so I'm so happy andgoing back to the the slowing down, one of my favorite memories I've had here is when we
went and we had
breakfast together, went to yoga class and we sat and we talked and it was such abeautiful day and we just enjoyed the nice weather and the food and the conversation and
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it really brought me joy.
So, no, and I'm so happy that we met and...
And I struggled with my Portuguese underst- hey, right?
Like, it all worked out.
I can be a little hard on myself sometimes with the language.
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So, so thank you.
And yeah, thanks for joining me.
And I look forward to seeing you again soon.
We'll go check out your special spot.
Thank you so much, I really loved as well our breakfast and don't worry about yourlanguage because we are together.
Yeah, thank you.
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Yes.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It's always so nice.
Okay.
Well, Ate, see you soon.
Ciao, ciao.
bye.
Thank you so much for tuning in to this episode of Why São Paulo?
Exploring Brazil's magic through its people and places.
I hope you enjoyed the stories about this incredible city learning unique insights fromthe discussion.
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