Zen Talking - Don't Misconceive, from Dahui's Shobogenzo

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'Muslin Robe' Zhao one night pointed to the half moon and asked elder Pu, "Where has the other part gone?" Pu said, "Don't     misconceive." Zhao said, "You've lost a piece."  Dahui said, "He gets up by himself and falls down by himself."

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# What did we talk about?

 

When is it not a metaphor?

When you can't see the moon?

Is what you can't see still there?

Two halves to the moon, the "two" of knowing and not knowing".

 

Cases mentioned:

1. Guichen asked, “Where are you going?”  Fayan replied, “On an ongoing pilgrimage.”  Guichen said, “Why do you go on a pilgrimage?”  
Fayan replied, “I don’t know.”  Guichen said, “Not knowing is most intimate.”  At these words Fayan instantly experienced enlightenment.

2. One day Master Yunmen brought up this story about one of his teachers:
“A monk once asked Master Yuezhou Qianfeng, 'The honored ones of the ten directions all had a single gateway to ultimate liberation. Where is this gateway?' Then Master Yuezhou drew a line in the ground with his staff and said, 'Here.'”
Master Yunmen then held up his fan and offered this comment: “This fan jumps to the uppermost heaven and hits the god Indra; when it strikes the carp of the Eastern Sea, the rain pours down in torrents. Do you understand?”

 

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