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Speaker 1 (00:05):
War of the Roses, a couple of things from the
War of the Roses this morning, and the fact that
she saw on their shared ship account that he had
ordered condoms and a guy you know, which is weird.
(00:28):
But I I got a couple of things. First off,
I don't do ship. They do Instacart, which I don't
prefer one or the other. I think they both probably
are both equally as expensive as can be, and sometimes
it's annoying as can be too. I always hate, by
the way, whenever I do Instacart or you know, try
to do any of these apps, I always hate that
the people never seem to look for the actual thing
(00:49):
you want. They all automatically just want they want you
just to say, select whatever you want, and the next
thing you know, it's them shopping for whatever they want.
But she looked back to see that he had ordered
places order, and she found it to be weird. An
interesting thing that I don't think we've ever had with
War of the Roses, where you go back and you
look at receipts, and I don't know if there are
(01:11):
any listeners that have ever busted somebody that they were
in a relationship with cheating because you were checking the
receipts basically to see what was going on and where
they were going. I could see where you can check
receipts on a lot of things, but I could see
where if you go back. Could you imagine you go
back on maybe somebody that travels for a living their
hotel bill and notice ordering two breakfasts, you know what
(01:32):
I mean, or notice like stuff like that. Like you
could actually go really deep on this. So if anybody's
ever done that, I want to hear your personal story
behind it, because I know that we always get great
crazy stories from people that it's almost therapeutic for you
to tell us what happened in your relationship eight four
to four Mojoe Live. The other thing I thought too
(01:53):
for a potential follow up on this, was that's real
common where all of a sudden, you guys are or
intimate with each other, You guys are baking cookies, and
then all of a sudden, randomly one day or sometime,
he stops or she stops falling around.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, I wonder how close she is with his friends,
because we don't know if he actually went to a
guys night or if he went somewhere after the guys night. Yeah,
you know what I mean, like having the condoms delivered there.
It may have just been easier so we didn't have
to make a stop or something.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That's what I thought at first he was doing. I
don't do many guys' nights. Okay, so I'm not a
big guys night guy. I kind of wish I had
more guys night friends. But I don't think that I
would be the kind of person that would go, hey,
you know, keV, can you get me some guy? Like
can you imagine asking that, like, Hey, got a girl
(02:42):
coming over? You don't un need condoms like I would
honestly like, go, you're on your own. You know that,
just to me is kind of awkward. But you picked
up something too, Shannon on the on the card that
he left, which you brought up to Vivian at the end.
Let's see what listeners think. What's up, Heather, how you doing? Hi?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Morning everyone?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
What's going on? Where the Roses?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I listened to you guys every single day, and I
listened to War of the Roses all the time. My
husband and I actually talk about it every Tuesday and Thursday.
After the War of the Roses, and he when you
ask what the relationship was to Crystal. He was very
confident that romantic partner. Like he didn't stutter, he didn't
say oh, with a friend or something. And then when
he was doing the card if he said no, oh,
(03:29):
I've had a great time getting.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
To know you.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
That this test couple of months, it's.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Very clear that they are in the beginning stages of
like talking.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
They're maybe you know, not quite official.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yet, babe. To start the message.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Forming a relationship with this girl, like as if he
was single, and just like they're starting the dating, he's
getting her flowers, you know, things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I definitely think Vivian got the answer that she needed. Yeah,
that he's not being faithful. Yeah, Collette wants to bring
up something with who he sent of flowers too, and
her reaction to us, what's up Collede.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Good morning morning.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So you said afterwards that you tried calling her and told.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Her who you were and then she hung up. That's
because she knows he has a girlfriend. I gave there's
no way that she wouldn't be like why are you
calling me?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I'm so confused, and then like trying to admit like, hey,
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I didn't know that he had a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
That's that's a lie.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
If she is like.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Spending time with him, not at his place, and then
having the condoms sent to a guy's night, what kind
of guy's night has girls?
Speaker 6 (04:35):
It's not a guy's night right night.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I feel really it's bad for her. But she knows
that Crystal, whatever her name is, she knows that there
is a that there's a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And in all fairness, our producer Lydia made the phone
call and said, hey, we're calling from Mojoe in the morning.
Would you be willing to talk? And there was not
much of a conversation. So also the other thing could
be did he text her and say don't yeh, don't
take anybody's call. Thank you for the call. What's up? Ti? Ti?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
I'm over here trying to get myself together for work. Okay,
So what I have going on? You guys mentioned about
finding the receipts for cheating. I found out through uh my.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Ex was sing.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Yeah through cash up. I listened to a podcast and
the girls mentioned that you can kind of like catch
someone slipping through the casheps I went through his transactions.
He was sending money to strippers and and the like
these really crazy like notes inside of it.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
It was ridiculous. What did some of the notes say?
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I can't say I'm in public, but it would be
things like very sexual or like asking for sexual accident.
He would send the money.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
That's uh, that's too bad. I'm sorry that you figured out.
How did you figure out they were strippers? Oh?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
I started searching them so you can find their name
and I'll put them through Facebook. And then I went
through the phone and started finding like secret apps. So
it just went down the whole spiral.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, you know, what's good for you to do that?
That's like that.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Yeah, in the trash, I'm done with him.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Did you do any bodily harm to him before you
threw him in the trash? Or did you just throw
him in the trash? We don't want to get on that.
You know, did you send yourself a cash app before.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
You threw.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Definitely? And I may know. See, we can't get in
to that.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I liked youa TA is my favorite? What's up, Rebecca?
What's going on? So?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
When you share an app like Instacart or door Dash
and it's on two different phones, both people can get
notifications regardless of.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Who's using the app.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
So if he ordered the condoms, she could have that
like Instacart or whatever app pop up and she's like, well,
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Order this, idiot, it's not very seemed to be a secret.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, and this is the interesting part was and people
were asking this question. They were like, how do we
know that he really was at a guy's night the
shipping of this shipped order went to his buddy's house.
I know, but like keV said, he could have just
stopped by on the way to wherever he was going,
right or you know, and his friend as a friend's
(07:23):
place as a place to hook up.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Well, who wants to go to a girl's house and
like ship condoms and not be prepared? Like, that's not
a very good look either, right, So you gotta.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Is that a bad look if you're let me ask
all the people that are cheating out there right now,
is it bad that you go over to your person
you're cheating with his house and actually bring it have
an order to get delivered to you and stuff? No,
I don't know. I've never had anybody complain. They rather
have them than I have it, right? A two four
eight says did exactly what Mojo said, went through their
(07:58):
old receipts and found out that he was staying in
hotels with other women. I'm telling you, the thing that's
interesting is when you look at receipts of where they're
at and that that happened, because that happened to a
friend of mine that traveled a lot for work, and
he would go on trips and he would bring girls
(08:19):
with that he was falling around with her, having relationships
on the side with and his wife went back and
looked and you could see that there was somebody else
that was staying in the room. Like you can actually
call the you know, the hotel and find out that
he even asked for multiple keys or even putting other
people on the name. He said. She was so good
(08:42):
at calling up the hotels that he would stay at
and say, Hi, you know my husband is staying there.
He put me on the room and then they would
say yes, and they would say yes, I see that
there was another person. Wow, And she would say, I'm
to give Jalisa, what's up? Jealsa, you got busted because
(09:04):
they checked the receipts and no, actually.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
I didn't get busted. He thought I was doing something
and I really actually wasn't. I took out to eat
and my daughter, my oldest daughter, she was so happy
because she could pay for her own meal. So when
I got home, it was only two people on my receipt.
So he's like, oh, you didn't went out on a
date and you're weep somebody and I'm like, no, it
(09:29):
was me and my daughter. And he just was so
sure I was cheating. My daughter was happy to pay
for her own meal.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, okay, so he just became accusatory. Jelisa, can I
say this? He obviously did not feel secure in your guys'
relationship that he was checking the receipts. What was the
reasoning behind that?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
That's because he was cheating?
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Okay, yeah, he was going, I mean pretty much everybody
in the bites so oh.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Trying to put his off that baby needs you?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah? Is that is that? Is that a baby you
had with him?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Actually you guys are still together?
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Then no, actually passed away?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Oh gosh, would you kill him?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
No?
Speaker 6 (10:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Okay, wonner wonder. I don't know she was. I don't
think she did. But think about this, if she said yes,
you guys would have said hell, that was a hell
of a question. Still right, real quick, I want this
to be the last call because this is interesting. Initial
T is voice disguise. Are you their tea?
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
We're talking about checking receipts. Check your Amazon receipts. What happened?
And how did you bust your guy cheating on you?
Speaker 8 (10:52):
I saw on our Amazon that the book sure that
they take when they delivered a package. Our storm door
was open so you could see their reflection. And I
saw another picture a car in my driveway and I
knew whose car it was.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
God, Yes, he had a girl over to his house
or to your house while you were aware.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
At work.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
I was at work and he was at home.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But the fact you looked at that, I never looked
at those photos. I'll be honest with you. I know, like,
do you see what she's saying.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
She saw the reflection in the door that there was
somebody else, somebody else's car in the driveway.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Whose car was it? INITIALT?
Speaker 8 (11:41):
So it was an act that she had seen a
couple of years ago, and for like a year we
had thought that he was messing around. And I just
put in, you know, pinpoint it. So of this just
she has a very unique car.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I knew yeah, wow at detective work right there. That's amazing.
Thank you for the call to appreciate it.
War of the Roses, a couple of things from the
War of the Roses this morning, and the fact that
she saw on their shared ship account that he had
ordered condoms and a guy you know, which is weird.
(00:28):
But I I got a couple of things. First off,
I don't do ship. They do Instacart, which I don't
prefer one or the other. I think they both probably
are both equally as expensive as can be, and sometimes
it's annoying as can be too. I always hate, by
the way, whenever I do Instacart or you know, try
to do any of these apps, I always hate that
the people never seem to look for the actual thing
(00:49):
you want. They all automatically just want they want you
just to say, select whatever you want, and the next
thing you know, it's them shopping for whatever they want.
But she looked back to see that he had ordered
places order, and she found it to be weird. An
interesting thing that I don't think we've ever had with
War of the Roses, where you go back and you
look at receipts, and I don't know if there are
(01:11):
any listeners that have ever busted somebody that they were
in a relationship with cheating because you were checking the
receipts basically to see what was going on and where
they were going. I could see where you can check
receipts on a lot of things, but I could see
where if you go back. Could you imagine you go
back on maybe somebody that travels for a living their
hotel bill and notice ordering two breakfasts, you know what
(01:32):
I mean, or notice like stuff like that. Like you
could actually go really deep on this. So if anybody's
ever done that, I want to hear your personal story
behind it, because I know that we always get great
crazy stories from people that it's almost therapeutic for you
to tell us what happened in your relationship eight four
to four Mojoe Live. The other thing I thought too
(01:53):
for a potential follow up on this, was that's real
common where all of a sudden, you guys are or
intimate with each other, You guys are baking cookies, and
then all of a sudden, randomly one day or sometime,
he stops or she stops falling around.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, I wonder how close she is with his friends,
because we don't know if he actually went to a
guys night or if he went somewhere after the guys night. Yeah,
you know what I mean, like having the condoms delivered there.
It may have just been easier so we didn't have
to make a stop or something.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That's what I thought at first he was doing. I
don't do many guys' nights. Okay, so I'm not a
big guys night guy. I kind of wish I had
more guys night friends. But I don't think that I
would be the kind of person that would go, hey,
you know, keV, can you get me some guy? Like
can you imagine asking that, like, Hey, got a girl
(02:42):
coming over? You don't un need condoms like I would
honestly like, go, you're on your own. You know that,
just to me is kind of awkward. But you picked
up something too, Shannon on the on the card that
he left, which you brought up to Vivian at the end.
Let's see what listeners think. What's up, Heather, how you doing? Hi?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Morning everyone?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
What's going on? Where the Roses?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I listened to you guys every single day, and I
listened to War of the Roses all the time. My
husband and I actually talk about it every Tuesday and Thursday.
After the War of the Roses, and he when you
ask what the relationship was to Crystal. He was very
confident that romantic partner. Like he didn't stutter, he didn't
say oh, with a friend or something. And then when
he was doing the card if he said no, oh,
(03:29):
I've had a great time getting.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
To know you.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
That this test couple of months, it's.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Very clear that they are in the beginning stages of
like talking.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
They're maybe you know, not quite official.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yet, babe. To start the message.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Forming a relationship with this girl, like as if he
was single, and just like they're starting the dating, he's
getting her flowers, you know, things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I definitely think Vivian got the answer that she needed. Yeah,
that he's not being faithful. Yeah, Collette wants to bring
up something with who he sent of flowers too, and
her reaction to us, what's up Collede.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Good morning morning.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So you said afterwards that you tried calling her and told.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Her who you were and then she hung up. That's
because she knows he has a girlfriend. I gave there's
no way that she wouldn't be like why are you
calling me?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I'm so confused, and then like trying to admit like, hey,
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I didn't know that he had a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
That's that's a lie.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
If she is like.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Spending time with him, not at his place, and then
having the condoms sent to a guy's night, what kind
of guy's night has girls?
Speaker 6 (04:35):
It's not a guy's night right night.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I feel really it's bad for her. But she knows
that Crystal, whatever her name is, she knows that there
is a that there's a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And in all fairness, our producer Lydia made the phone
call and said, hey, we're calling from Mojoe in the morning.
Would you be willing to talk? And there was not
much of a conversation. So also the other thing could
be did he text her and say don't yeh, don't
take anybody's call. Thank you for the call. What's up? Ti? Ti?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
I'm over here trying to get myself together for work. Okay,
So what I have going on? You guys mentioned about
finding the receipts for cheating. I found out through uh my.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Ex was sing.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Yeah through cash up. I listened to a podcast and
the girls mentioned that you can kind of like catch
someone slipping through the casheps I went through his transactions.
He was sending money to strippers and and the like
these really crazy like notes inside of it.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
It was ridiculous. What did some of the notes say?
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I can't say I'm in public, but it would be
things like very sexual or like asking for sexual accident.
He would send the money.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
That's uh, that's too bad. I'm sorry that you figured out.
How did you figure out they were strippers? Oh?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
I started searching them so you can find their name
and I'll put them through Facebook. And then I went
through the phone and started finding like secret apps. So
it just went down the whole spiral.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, you know, what's good for you to do that?
That's like that.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Yeah, in the trash, I'm done with him.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Did you do any bodily harm to him before you
threw him in the trash? Or did you just throw
him in the trash? We don't want to get on that.
You know, did you send yourself a cash app before.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
You threw.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Definitely? And I may know. See, we can't get in
to that.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I liked youa TA is my favorite? What's up, Rebecca?
What's going on? So?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
When you share an app like Instacart or door Dash
and it's on two different phones, both people can get
notifications regardless of.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Who's using the app.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
So if he ordered the condoms, she could have that
like Instacart or whatever app pop up and she's like, well,
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Order this, idiot, it's not very seemed to be a secret.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, and this is the interesting part was and people
were asking this question. They were like, how do we
know that he really was at a guy's night the
shipping of this shipped order went to his buddy's house.
I know, but like keV said, he could have just
stopped by on the way to wherever he was going,
right or you know, and his friend as a friend's
(07:23):
place as a place to hook up.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Well, who wants to go to a girl's house and
like ship condoms and not be prepared? Like, that's not
a very good look either, right, So you gotta.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Is that a bad look if you're let me ask
all the people that are cheating out there right now,
is it bad that you go over to your person
you're cheating with his house and actually bring it have
an order to get delivered to you and stuff? No,
I don't know. I've never had anybody complain. They rather
have them than I have it, right? A two four
eight says did exactly what Mojo said, went through their
(07:58):
old receipts and found out that he was staying in
hotels with other women. I'm telling you, the thing that's
interesting is when you look at receipts of where they're
at and that that happened, because that happened to a
friend of mine that traveled a lot for work, and
he would go on trips and he would bring girls
(08:19):
with that he was falling around with her, having relationships
on the side with and his wife went back and
looked and you could see that there was somebody else
that was staying in the room. Like you can actually
call the you know, the hotel and find out that
he even asked for multiple keys or even putting other
people on the name. He said. She was so good
(08:42):
at calling up the hotels that he would stay at
and say, Hi, you know my husband is staying there.
He put me on the room and then they would
say yes, and they would say yes, I see that
there was another person. Wow, And she would say, I'm
to give Jalisa, what's up? Jealsa, you got busted because
(09:04):
they checked the receipts and no, actually.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
I didn't get busted. He thought I was doing something
and I really actually wasn't. I took out to eat
and my daughter, my oldest daughter, she was so happy
because she could pay for her own meal. So when
I got home, it was only two people on my receipt.
So he's like, oh, you didn't went out on a
date and you're weep somebody and I'm like, no, it
(09:29):
was me and my daughter. And he just was so
sure I was cheating. My daughter was happy to pay
for her own meal.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, okay, so he just became accusatory. Jelisa, can I
say this? He obviously did not feel secure in your guys'
relationship that he was checking the receipts. What was the
reasoning behind that?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
That's because he was cheating?
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Okay, yeah, he was going, I mean pretty much everybody
in the bites so oh.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Trying to put his off that baby needs you?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah? Is that is that? Is that a baby you
had with him?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Actually you guys are still together?
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Then no, actually passed away?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Oh gosh, would you kill him?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
No?
Speaker 6 (10:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Okay, wonner wonder. I don't know she was. I don't
think she did. But think about this, if she said yes,
you guys would have said hell, that was a hell
of a question. Still right, real quick, I want this
to be the last call because this is interesting. Initial
T is voice disguise. Are you their tea?
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
We're talking about checking receipts. Check your Amazon receipts. What happened?
And how did you bust your guy cheating on you?
Speaker 8 (10:52):
I saw on our Amazon that the book sure that
they take when they delivered a package. Our storm door
was open so you could see their reflection. And I
saw another picture a car in my driveway and I
knew whose car it was.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
God, Yes, he had a girl over to his house
or to your house while you were aware.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
At work.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
I was at work and he was at home.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But the fact you looked at that, I never looked
at those photos. I'll be honest with you. I know, like,
do you see what she's saying.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
She saw the reflection in the door that there was
somebody else, somebody else's car in the driveway.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Whose car was it? INITIALT?
Speaker 8 (11:41):
So it was an act that she had seen a
couple of years ago, and for like a year we
had thought that he was messing around. And I just
put in, you know, pinpoint it. So of this just
she has a very unique car.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I knew yeah, wow at detective work right there. That's amazing.
Thank you for the call to appreciate it.
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Dateline NBC
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