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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, it is Mojo in the morning.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
So I bring this up on the air because I
really do think sometimes this will help people. But I
have an addiction, and it's something that I've talked about
numerous times before on the air. And no it's not food,
even though food is definitely an addiction for me. But
it's an addiction that has caused some issues in my
relationship for many, many years, actually probably since the beginning

(00:24):
when Chelse and I got together. But this weekend it
kind of came to a head, to a point where
I'm going to try something to help this addiction and
help my relationship with my wife.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Charles.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
She finally just had enough and it got to a
point where she just finally said to me, she goes,
I can't take it any longer. And that addiction is
my addiction to my phone. I am always on my phone.
I am constantly either looking at social media, I'm constantly
texting back and forth with people, and I'm constantly and
this is one of the worst ones, picking up phone

(00:58):
calls in the middle of conversations. So, like Chelsea and
I really don't get a ton of time to talk
to each other because work will keep you and then
of course her balancing home and everything else that's going
on will keep her. So we only have moments together
where there's not other people around. We're very social people,
and we'll have those intimate moments with each other, many

(01:19):
of them are in a car. A lot of times
it's literally us just decompressing after I get home from work,
and I will still pick up the phone to talk
to Tony Travado, or I'll still go check what our
social media has to say, or I'll re returning emails
or text messages from salespeople or other people that are
on the show. And finally, she just said I had

(01:40):
enough with this, and her having enough with it has
led to basically her saying, you know what, you've given
up on us, I'm going to give up on you.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
And it's true, it really is true.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
So I want to bring this up on the air
because I want to see if this will help anybody.
First off, are there any other people that are addicted
to their phone? They're constantly on their phone. I'd like
to know what you guys do. But also are there
other things that come in between you and your relationship?
And I came up with some examples of this phone. Obviously,
maybe kids is a big one. Your kids come in

(02:12):
between you and your significant other. Work, a lot of work,
a lot of stuff going on, or lack of work
sometimes does if you're not working. Sometimes that actually makes
a person depressed. Gambling is so big right now, I
got got it. A lot of guy friends that spend
more time gambling than they do actually spending intimate with
their spouse. Porn is a huge deal. And then another

(02:36):
one too that a lot of my guy friends are golf.
A lot of guy friends that I have go golfing
all the time, even in the winter time. They're going
on golf trips. And if you are somebody that is
dealing with this in your relationship, I want to hear
from you. But this is what Chelsea and I are
going to do, or this is what I'm going to do,
not what Chelsea's doing. Chelsea's doing great. I am going
to give Chelsea to start off thirty minutes phone free

(02:59):
a day. So I'm going to when we are together,
I'm going to make the intentional act of turning my
phone off, putting my phone in another room, or honestly
leaving in my car for thirty minutes a day, so
that we can sit there and see how each other's
doing and try to get a moment where we just

(03:21):
spend time together. She's been giving me her her time,
I haven't been taking it, and I have not been
giving her mine at all. So that's a time and
I think, honestly, that could lead to And this is
why I've gone on eight thousand diets. I've done every
diet on a man, and I realized you got to
start small to grow tall. And I want to eventually

(03:43):
go to a point where I can do a phone
free Friday. If I can get home from work and
not even be on my phone anymore.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
That's going to be so tough.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Even the thirty minutes, I feel like you're going to
have to do what you said, like leave it in
your car, go plug it in your room so it's
totally out of sight and you don't even hear it
vibrate or be or whatever.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, you know, And honestly, what is thirty minutes. There's
nothing bad happens in thirty minutes. And if it does
happen in thirty minutes, I'll be there to catch it.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
In thirty one minutes.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think everybody can relate to the phone becoming an
issue and if you're a parent, kid's for sure for
Wes and myself, and it's it's the issue of giving
him my undivided attention because I always feel like I'm
like busy, busy on the go. And even when I'm
at home and he comes home and he's trying to

(04:32):
download his day with me and actually have a conversation
with me. I'm unloading the dishwasher, I'm unpacking groceries, I'm
going through the kids' backpacks. I run into the other
room to grab the laundry to bring in and fold,
all while he's trying to have a conversation with me.
And now more and more I notice he'll just stop.
He'll totally stop talking to see if I even notice

(04:53):
that he's stopped talking.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Do you notice?

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:56):
But and I make excuses, I'm like, I can't, but
it is so hard for me to just focus that,
like to just stand across from you at the counter
and listen to what you have to say without multitasking.
Even during the show, we all multitask on our computers
while we're talking. It's so hard for me to just focus.
I said, I do better if I am putting away
dishes while we're talking, and he's like, no, no, no, I'm

(05:17):
asking for your undivided attention just so I can tell
you about my day.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
And I always say that, we always because I do
the same thing. I always use the show as my
example of why I'm not doing something. And I think Chelsea,
just over these years, just said I'm done with excuses.
I'm done, you know, I'm done with this whole thing.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
I wonder and I worry, and I'm gonna tell you why,
Like I wonder what you're going to do with this
thirty minutes, and I worry because I don't want it
to be something that you just schedule, you know what
I mean, Like it's not a meeting, Like Okay, I'm
gonna carve out this thirty minute meeting block to sit
down and talk to Chelsea instead of like doing something.
I wonder, like, are you gonna do something? Are you

(05:57):
just gonna be around her with her and experience what
that's like with no cell phone.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Honestly, I think it has to be somewhat of a
formality of scheduling things, otherwise it won't become a habit,
at least at first and I think that the one
thing that we'll be doing is seeing that what she's
really going through and how she's really feeling, because there
are times where she'll she's told me she's not well
and or or she has said, hey, somebody's not well

(06:24):
in the family, and I'm not even go huh huh,
and then all of a sudden, I'm like, so you're
what's going on with you? And she's like, I just
told you Tom, Like she tells me so much stuff
that honestly I don't hear, you know, and I don't
hear it because I'm not paying attention.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I'm on my phone doing other.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Things, and honestly, there's nothing that I'm getting that is
important at all. I mean, I've gone an entire weekend
without a phone before and did it intentionally went back
to my phone afterwards. It was the dumbest set of
text messages from you, your Tony or you know what
I mean, or the show, but Carrie, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Not a whole lot.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
First time long time.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
Phone.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
Sorry.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
I had to say you guys.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
I know this is a serious topic, but I mean
I listen to you guys every morning.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
We love you. When you said you know, what's a
half hour?

Speaker 6 (07:18):
Well, for a person going through recovery, I've been recovered
for some time.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
Now, but when you say that's how I had to
start out my life.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
You know, after recovery was take five minutes at a time,
and if I can make that.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Make it to the next five minutes. I was doing great,
and it eventually led.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
Up to that half hour. But for some that half
hours like is it ever going to end?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (07:42):
You know when you said yes, and so the phone
you know it is it's said as it is. It's electronics,
but it's like an addiction.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
It is.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, thank you carry and thank you for for you
talking about and being open with us to tell us
about your addiction.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
I I, oh.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
Yeah, appreciate it wasn't for the grace of Gods and
he has my bag.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
I celebrate recovery.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, pray for me please, yes.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Absolutely sure.

Speaker 6 (08:13):
Well you and Chelsea and Shannon, that Lydia, everybody, I
do absolutely.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I love you, appreciate you so much. Yeah, we're all
proud of you. Rich what's going on?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Hi?

Speaker 8 (08:24):
Are you guys doing this work?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Good man? What's what's your thing that you're addicted to?

Speaker 8 (08:29):
Video games?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Is maying, oh that that one should have been on
the list.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
For sure, you spend more time with those. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (08:36):
Yeah, I find myself if I have a bad day
at work, or really any day after work, I come
home and literally, like you know, I'm on the game,
and my poor wife and kids will say something to
me and I have a headset on and I'm like, yeah, yeah,
you know, I'll give them yeah yeah, Then I have
no idea what they were talking about. I still, to
this day could tell you what they said to me.

(08:57):
Half the time.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
That one, to me, is even worse the phone because
of the headset, Like you can't even hear what someone's
saying to you.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
You know, the things that you missed too.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
And I don't know if this has happened with you,
but I've missed moments that Chelsea uh in uh my
kids have said I missed my son coming out. Chelsea
literally said, Tom, did you hear what Jacob just said?
And I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and no you didn't.
And it was Jacob telling Chelsea and I hit a
boyfriend and that's how he told us that he was gay.

(09:27):
I missed it because I was on my phone. Benito,
what's up, Hey.

Speaker 8 (09:32):
Mourning everybody.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
My daughter's boyfriend is addicted to his phone and his earbudget.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Oh god, Oh that can't be good.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, it's probably not good. First Yeah, literally does it
cause for a problems? And they're really oh wow? Does
he miss the baby crying and everything too?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh yeah, right there?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
And he does not acknowledge.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
No, she'll speak to him, he doesn't acknowledge her.

Speaker 7 (09:58):
Yeah, it's bad.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Do you think it's something that could come to a
head like it has with us?

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:08):
I really do.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, Yep, it's when it gets to a point where
it's so frustrated. I appreciate Chelsea for getting this frustrated
without walking out, you know what I mean? Like, and
I appreciate that she was willing to have this conversation.
And I think that was one of those things where
it happened on Friday and it started off the weekend.
But honestly, I was happy that it did and it
didn't happen on Sunday, because then that means that she

(10:32):
would have gone two more days without saying something that
was really bothering her.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
What's up, Cavin?

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Hey, good morning. So I was saying that it makes
me kind of wonder if I should. So my wife
passed away in a four and fourteen Okay, yeah, sorry,
and so I wonder yeah. Thanks. So I'm wondering. You know,
I do have a girlfriend, but I'm wondering if maybe
I should only date because I do use my phone

(10:58):
callte a bit and it makes me one would I be,
you know, not paying attention as much as I should?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well do you?

Speaker 4 (11:06):
I guess, keV.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I think that one of the things I find is
that my addiction to my phone is I constantly think
that I got other people that need something from me
instead of the one person that should matter. And I
think that with you being in a relationship now again,
and I don't know if were you like this with
your your wife, No, could.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Have been so many years. Well you know what, I
shouldn't say that not as bad that was back when
we had next tills.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah. Yeah, nobody was addicted to their next HEILP.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
But what I'm saying is use this as an opportunity,
Use this as an opportunity to look and say, I
want to start my next relationship off on a better foot. Uh,
and do it in memory of your wife, you know,
do it for her because she wants you to be
healthy and happy and be you know, present.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
And not just for romantic relationships, for friendships, for your work,
for all the relationships in your life and family especially.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm sure that it would mean a lot to your family.
I think about my son, you know, telling me that
he has a boyfriend and I wasn't there and that
became a punchline to a joke, and honestly, it's done,
you know, so much damage I think too U to
my family over the years that I don't even realize it.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
But Amanda, what's up.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
I I just want to call and say, I'm very
proud of you.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Mojo.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
The fact that you actually listen to what she had
to say, and I think she was very clear in
her message, and that spoils down to she married Tom.
She loves Mojo, but she married Tom and she misses
her husband. Yeah, and that needs to be a separate thing.
The fact that you recognize that and realize that help me.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
This is gonna work. Recognizing you have a problem is
the first step.

Speaker 8 (12:56):
Absolutely every time.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
And I got it, and do nothing.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
About it if you don't give it the attention it deserves.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
And I gotta be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I give her a lot of credit because nobody wanted
to marry Tom. No, no, no, believe me. Uh if Toya,
what's up? Toya?

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Y'all?

Speaker 7 (13:16):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (13:17):
HOI y'all doing?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (13:20):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (13:20):
So you know understanding? Let me start with understanding the
context of what you're saying. I do feel you should
cut yourself just a little slack. And I kind of
even with listening to Shannon's comment, and maybe because I
can attest, I am someone who constantly has multiple things
running through her head, busy multitasking. Sometimes it is like everyone,

(13:44):
just like everyone learns different, everyone receives information different, Everyone's love.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Language is different.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
Right, this is falls in that same parameter.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Everyone can't sit still.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
That doesn't mean I'm not listening just because I'm not
sitting still like Shannon was saying, she unloads the dishwasher
and things.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
However, I do think it is important that if you
do or can.

Speaker 7 (14:06):
Get an undivided amount of time, that is important. I'm
not saying it's not, but I think you should cut
yourself a little slat and don't be so hard on yourself.
You juggle a lot and yes, your family is the
most important, but that doesn't mean to your comment, it
doesn't mean other.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
People don't need you, right.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
You still have other relationships that are important as well.
So I would say, just cut yourself a little slack. Yeah,
I appreciate it, but go from there.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
But and then, and that's where I say this, I
gotta have my priority set too, and other people do
need help, but I gotta like, Chelsea's got to be
my priority, you know what I mean, And my kids
have to be my priority.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
But of course, of course, but.

Speaker 7 (14:45):
Look, you're doing an amazing job. You've been doing an
amazing job for all of these years. So if you
set your mind and something mojo, I know you're going
to do it. So that's the love. I can't like
to hear an up they love y'all.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I wish there was a shot for that too. Here's
why you said you.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
By the way, not set a timer on that phone
that's in the other room that she's gonna hear going
off after thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Honestly, I feel like, you know, when when we talk
and we are in conversation, I'm engaged.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
We're engaged in it, you know. But and that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
And the other thing too is trying to set dates
like That's the other thing that Chelse and I were
talking about is like we we go out so many
times with couples or friends. We got to have moments
where it's just us.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
So
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