CLASSICS: Gary Lynn's Yowie Encounters!

In this "classic" from 2022, Clifford and the Bobes speak with Australian yowie researcher Gary Lynn! Gary details several of his experiences with yowies, including an incident captured via thermal imager! Follow his team and their work here: https://www.yowiehunters.com.au

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Five stary and.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Righteous to go on yesterday and listening, oh watching lin
always keep its watching. And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman
and James Boogle Fay Clifford James, Hello, Hello, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Man? All right?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
All right? We got a yawie hunter from Australia. We
got Gary Lynn joining us tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hello, Gary, Hi, Gary, good evening, goes hey, are you surviving?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Plus a little bit so can't complain for.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
The listeners we had, uh, we had Dean Harrison on here.
That is the head of our show, the founder of
our show and our research. And Gary here is one
of his top right hand men. Of the men in
the field down.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
There, you might on the one that carries his bags
and helps him get up heels. He can't clowmb one himself.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Spoken like a true Australian. Yeah, yeah, because you know
we've been to Australia. We filmed the course finding Bigfoot
down there and one thing it's one of those stereotypes
I kind of hold true is Australians were kind of
rough around the edge. Man, they're gonna mess with you
if they can. And I think that was a good
example Gary of like littling the organization's founder.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Good job, Well it's funny because it's true.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
That's right man. If if if you can't hang a
bit of crap on the the the layed representative of
the organization, and you know what, what can you do?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah he's not even here, so let's let's let's really
let loose on him.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
What brought you to the Australian A y R is
Australian researched us to their organization? So what probably to
a y R? Was it an experience or a siting
or just interest?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Pretty much? Well three mine is uh you know I've
always had look, look, look many people. I've always had
an interest in the subject, be paranormal or yeah, yalli,
bigfoot at all that corner creepy spooky stuff. And it
pretty much started off actually involving myself in the subject
in a physical manner, going to certain locations where we

(02:11):
think they might be. Like myself and a friend of
mine who we had no idea what we're doing, just
a couple of no hopers with torches walk around the
bush at night, and the bar got set quite high
one night when we went to a certain location where
there's actually yowie crossing painted on the road, so there's
obviously been signings in this area. So we thought, what's

(02:32):
the better place to go out for our first time
is to go out there, And that night involved lots
of walking around, not by us. We could hear something
walking around the bush up on the ridge above us,
and then my good friend he decided to say that
he could hear some possible vocalizations further, say a calumity

(02:57):
on the road a bit further. So we jump back
in the car. And this is the point where I
learned that you never ever turn the audio recording device
off until the night is done and dusted. So at
that particular time, I was using my phone as an
audio recorder, so I wasn't actually using a recording device.
So things have changed these days. So we jumped in

(03:17):
the car, I press pause and on the audio recording
app on the phone. We drive down the road. We
get out. As soon as we get out, on the
left hand side of this particular location where this road
goes through the forest, is this big wall of lantanas.
Lantana's a very prickly invasive vine slash bush and something
behind that that's wall of lantana, screamed at us. And

(03:42):
it was the loudest thing I've ever heard. I go
to a fairfee death millal concerts, and the sound reverberation
you could feel the sound waves vibrate through your chest cavity.
It was that loud. I'm only talking maybe twenty feet
away at the most. And then we sort of hung
around there for a bit and we proceeded to listen

(04:02):
to two other possible beings coming in from the north
and the northwest, until we were in the middle of
a triangle and we basically go freaked out, jumped in
the car and left. And that was our first experience
into actually doing I wouldn't call research, to call it
going out and kicking around the bush with no idea
what we're doing. And then yeah, we did that a

(04:24):
few times. And one day I was on the way
home on my bike back up because I live in
the gold Case Hinsland up in the mountains, and coming
back up the mountain after a ride, and I see
this black car coming down the mountain and I happened
to catch a number plates at Yowie and I spun
around and chase this black car back down the mountain.

(04:48):
It certainly was I'm not too sure what he was
thinking with this, this guy on a high performance super
sport bike come up behind and reving the bike and
waving at him, thinking he think he's probably done something.
And you pulled over and we proceeded to have a
chat to be at that particular knot, and from there,
you know, we sort of kicked along a bit, conversations

(05:09):
here and there until I was finally able to get
out on my first research not with Vane, and it
has been an amazing roller coaster ever since.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Well, there was a.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Twenty twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Oh not actually that long ago. That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, I mean, like I'll mean, you know when we
got screamed out was probably twenty seventeen. A few other
experiences and getting it doing things previous to that.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
So I'm kind of relieved in a way as you
were describing to some of your earlier experiences and how
you got into this, that it seems that you guys
go about it the same way. You just basically jump
in and start doing it, even though you don't know
what you're doing and kind of just learn the ropes
as you go. That's how most Americans, I think, do it.
That's certainly how I did it. We can all start
out with like Bobo, being an expert before you do it,

(05:56):
but like for the rest of us, we just kind
of muddle around in the dark for it. And it
sounds like you did the same thing.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Exactly all my log It's it's like a side of
people will told me when you when you're driving around
you get lost, the best best way to find it
where you are is to get lost. Sometimes it doesn't
work yet, you know, for the best, but for the
most part it does.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I feel I almost feel bad about for the people
who do it any other way because I only know
as much as I do. And I don't think I
know a lot, mind you, but I only know as
much as I do because I've made so many mistakes,
and if those mistakes aren't yours, you know, I don't
feel you learn as much from them. I think the

(06:35):
beginning times, when you're learning to fly, that's probably the
most important time in any bigfooter or Yawi hunter's career
of doing that is because you get to make all
your own mistakes and learn from them. And if you're
learning from a mentor, that's great, but that mentor can
tell you. I'm going to tell you this because I
made my mistakes and I don't want you to make
the same mistakes.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
But I don't.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
I just don't think you get as much from that.
You need to get out there and really blow it
for yourself.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
You know, you are exactly what and even for the
most part, it's also bad the experience and learning on
the job as such, even when you are out in
the field doing this kind of research. Yeah, as you guys,
I look, you can go ten times in a row
and only one time you'll actually have some kind of
basing activity because unfortunately they work on their time table

(07:20):
and or their time table. But at the same time,
you find new areas, you find new access points, you
find things you probably wouldn't wouldn't have found or come
across or learned if you didn't make those mistakes in
the first place.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
And there are your mistakes, and that just makes it
even more personal, and it gives you a better foundation
for later on, you know, because no one's going to
make cliff mistakes. That's my job and you can learn
from me. And that's great if they don't have to
go through the same rigamrow and they don't have to
make the same mistakes and learn the hard way. But
there is no other way to learn it. You got
to go out there and make a fool yourself, say

(07:56):
things that are incorrect and public and be you know,
that sort of stuff. We all do it, you know,
if you have a website, we do it. You know,
we make public mistakes. I think that's an important part
of the growing process and frankly maturing process, which I
think is an important aspect of this that a lot
of people to talk about for sure.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Mat I mean, look, as you guys know, like there's
there's no real set way written down the book method
of how to do this research. Different areas require different
aspects of research, so you kin'dt have you can't have
to adapt to each particular research area you go to. Uh,

(08:35):
you know, let's say the location we're out last night,
we have a set protocols for that area, but if
we go to another location in an hour and a
half north, we have to we have to attack that
area in a different manner. So in doing so, not
not only progressing your research, but you're also learning as
you go about. You know, as you see you know

(08:55):
those mistakes, what to and what not to do, and
again you try to tried to progress that research in
as much of a positive manner as you can.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Now you just mentioned that you have different protocols for
different areas. Now we'll get to I wouldn't know your areas,
of course, but some people listening might, so we're not
going to pokey on that too hard and broad you
but what are some of the protocols and how do
they differ from protocols in other areas that when you
do field work, as.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
You guys may know lock when, I'm pretty sure a
fair few researchers over your sort of fence do the
same sort of thing. So so I add nton with
your head lamps, a lot of the time you're using
red lot on your head lamp. So around base camp
we use we use white light basically basically because we
want to use base camp as an attracted area. Once

(09:42):
we leave base camp, it's either no light at all
or it's red light, depending on your situation. On the situation,
depending on the train and where exactly what you're venturing
off to we have found that certain beings in certain
areas are a bit more brazen than others. It's the
location last night. We have to kind of be a
little bit more stealth mode because they seem to be

(10:04):
very clued on that area. So we basically have to
go around as quite as we possibly can, make sure
that we're not flashing his light around, make sure the
lights and the cameras are covered up, because you know,
these thermal cameras do have stand by lights and you
actually can see that through the bush. Certain locations further north,

(10:26):
where the areas are different, these beings are more are
a lot more happy to come out in the open
as such, not in the sense of the you know,
they can step out and shake your hand, but they
don't seem to be as stealthy as the beings that
we were that we were with the area of the
area that we're at last night, so that that kind

(10:46):
of area, you you actually can sit and wait out
in the open and make a bit more noise. So
you kind of just adapt to these certain areas certain methods. Again,
other places as well, where these beans might be a
little bit more standoffish, not so much aggressive but a

(11:07):
little bit on edge as such. So again the place
for it last night, we probably can walk down those
trails and through the bush by ourselves, but locations further north,
we sort of may have to make sure that we
go from pairs for a safety aspect.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
From the AE that's the safety you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean like they don't
seem to be particularly aggressive unless you sort of get
closer to the kids or closer to the females. Like
a lot of people know the encounter that Dean had
many years ago a place called kil Keeven where Dean
got a bit too close to one's missus and he

(11:49):
paid the price for it. Likely he's here today for it.
But yeah, when they get a little bit too close
to the females, a little bit too close to the kids,
that then they tend to get a little bit more protective.
Not all time. I think it's a seasonal thing. Maybe
if there is a birthing, a possible berthing in the
in the area, we'll start here. Reports of juvenile sightings

(12:11):
that kind of thing, and also more rock thrain tends
to happen as well.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Prior to that night where you guys got the footage.
I'm sure a lot of a lot of our listeners
aroosed seeing that footage. I think it's the best thermal
footage ever gotten. Had had you seen one before that.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I've had many experiences. I've heard them very close to
me again, I've been screamed at. I've heard whistles, growls,
pops walking, all that usual kinds of stuff very close
to me, around me, behind me. And previous to that
particular night, we were actually son below that ridgeline is

(12:48):
a dam, and we decided one not to take the
kayaks and clike to the very far end of his
dam where we think the their sort of home territory
home territory might be. We did so, and that night
involved seeing eye shine, hearing something move off, footprints found,
and then once we came back to the kayaks, sorry,

(13:09):
back across the end of the dam and loaded the
kayaks back into my van. When I was laying Mike
Kayak into the van, I actually heard something move across
the road. Because with a lot of these locations in
these roads, these roads are going through dense forests. It's
not a real open area. So again when I was
laying Mike Clake in the van across the road. I

(13:30):
could I heard something move. I didn't worry too much
about it. And then Dean went upload his klike and
he heard a bit of a grumble growl kind of noise.
So that sparked off a bit of a bit of
an investigation into the area. So we came back at
a later date, more so focusing on the lower side
in between the road and the dam. So the first

(13:53):
night that we came back and got decent, decent interaction myself,
Shanning Guthrie and Dean, we were at a base camp.
Dean went up the track to just basically sit up
there in the dark and you sit quietly and just
have listen and see what comes about. Myself and Shannon
state a base camp and after about half an hour
or so, Dean comes out of the radio and says,

(14:14):
I can hear something pushing through the bush, excuse me,
pushing through the bush down below me. He said it
was by a pedal, quite quite clearly, by a pedal
from what he could hear. So I radio threw it
to Dean and said, okay, well would you like would
you like some back up? And he said no, no, I'm fine,
just just just sit tight, Okay, now worries. So he

(14:34):
still came out of the radio saying, you know, reporting
what he can hear, he can't seeing at this particular time,
just just all audio. And then next thing, you know
this if you can, if you picture the sound of
when someone dives a stunt kite and a mechanical buzz.
Myself and Shannon heard that. We look up through the

(14:56):
tree canopy and this big black debt V flies directly
out of the top of us. Nobody what it was,
Just like if you've got to two f trucks and
point of them knows to nose in a V shape.
That's basically the size of it. No lights, nothing like that.
You said, this mechanical humming corn of noise. It flew
over the top of us. And then Dean straight off that. Dean,

(15:18):
here's this being crashing through the through the valley. Blow
him even more. Okay, So that that situation right there
has this obviously a lot more excited. We came back
the next not the next night, but another night after that,
and I was up on the main road while Dean
the other guys were down lower and I was focusing

(15:40):
more on that area directly across the road where I
heard that movement that night. And next thing I hear
like like basically a bulldozer coming down down the hill there.
So I pulled the therm or camera up. I see
this massive heats in literally coming down the hill. I
can't tell what it is. And on top of that,
this is my first time using this particular film cramera,

(16:01):
so I'm not quite up to date on the buttons
and focusing in that kind of thing. I'm still working
it out. And as this massive heat blob comes down
the hill closer towards me and then splits into two,
and then I realize what I'm actually looking at. I'm
looking at what I believe is two yali is. One

(16:24):
splits off to the left, one splits off to the right,
The one I left sits down. It didn't he is
facing my direction, but it didn't appear to be looking
at me as such. I don't think he knew I
was there. The other one off to the right had
its hand on the embankment, and it was with its
right hand it was ripping out roots and that kind
of thing from the ground and throwing them behind it.

(16:47):
The clarity of this footage wasn't the best. Again, it
is my first time using this camera. I'm talking maybe
one hundred feet away, so again it wasn't that wasn't
that close to really get good proper detail anyway, Uh
that that's that particular sorting loss for about fifteen minutes
until a noise was made and then I must have

(17:07):
realized I was standing down there, and I took off.
We we did get some video and still fully from it.
It's not it's not the best. It's nothing locked the
thermals that everyone knows about. But that rot there was my,
I guess, introduction to a proper physical sorting.

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Speaker 3 (19:16):
When I watched the recreations, I wasn't sure like how close,
like how accurate the estimations were that Dean was giving.
Did you guys, did you ever get back in there
like really measure full, like you know, get real detailed measurements.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
As in the distance from the camera location to them.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, and like because I remember he was saying, like,
you know, about eight feet nine feet whatever some oh.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
The height, yes, yes, so the het was actually about
none and nine and a half foot distance from from
from the camera to where I was standing was roughly
about fifty to fifty four feet through the thick foliage
and that kind of thing. And again you know, like
those beings none nine and a half at all. And

(20:00):
I found some track impressions which measured about eighteen nineteen inches. Unfortunately,
nothing castable because the terrain back there is just not
a castable environment. It's all leaf litter and grass and
that kind of thing. But you can still quite clearly
see these foot impressions an inch two inches into the ground.
And yeah, they're about eighteen nineteen inch foot impressions I speak. Yeah,

(20:22):
it was an amazing I mean, the whole thing, like
with the footage, it's actually about twelve minutes long, even
though Buck only captured I think it's sixteen seconds. I
think it is of them stepping out and picking up
or putting down whatever they may be doing. But the
whole thing is about about twelve minutes. And at the

(20:45):
first part of it he is actually watching something off
to the left where he could see through the camera
see eye shine and see your hand around a stump,
so something was behind the stump and actually watching him.
And that it was about forty five minutes to an
hour later to the right where these other two being
stepped out and we're talking about I think the whole

(21:09):
thing started about nine thirty nine. It continued on with
the thermal captures un till about eleven thirty, back and forth,
back and forth. And after that, I think it's probably
about two thirty where things actually started to die down.
But when I say died down, I don't mean stop,
like they stayed around camp the whole night. Myself and
Buck sat up while Dine in the shadow went to bed,

(21:31):
jumped in the hammocks and went to sleep. And yeah,
myself and Buck sat up on the chairs because you
know what we're pumped. We're we're excited, were pumped, just
talking and talking about the situation and the whole time
will sit in there. You could hear them doing laps
around our camp. Couldn't see them, like too far away
and behind too thick a foliage to be able to seening,
but you could hear the heavy board peter footsteps doing

(21:52):
laps around camp. We call them shotguns in the night,
so when they snap branches that kind of thing, see,
look a shotgun going off. So we could plan the
shotguns going off around camp all my pretty much. And
then yeah, as you most like I saw in the video,
we get up the next morning and there's all these

(22:12):
these sticks that gemmed in the ground where Buck was
standing when he captured the thermal, and the things with
those sticks in the ground earlier that night, when Buck
was walking up and down the track, and I'd go
up to him and we'd be both up there and
we change the locations, et cetera. Buck actually went further
than where he filmed those two beings, and I come

(22:36):
out of the radio and said, you know, would you
like a chair? So I grabbed a camping chair and
I walked up there. It's probably about one one hundred
and twenty meters from camp. So I grabbed a chair
and walked up, and I walked straight through where those
sticks were at roughly one o'clock in the morning, and
they sticks weren't there. Next, you know, five feet in
the morning, they sticks have been placed. But I mean

(22:58):
the whole sage, which was just so exciting, basically as
simple as that. I mean, like when when even to
the point when when these beings were done and they
moved off. Buck was in his position. The other other
three of us are back of camp. Buck's coming out
of the radio saying give giving his updates to what's

(23:20):
going on. And I said to Buck at one stage,
would you like me to come up to your location
and say, you know, I've got you back? Because even
though he had these two possible three beings on one
side of the track, he could hear some strange noises
on the opposite side of the track. So I said, right, well,
I'll come up there and have you back if need be.

(23:42):
And as soon as I left the firelight from camp,
Buck comes over the ratio stop stopsp sp stop what
he said? As soon as I left the firelight from camp,
he said, these two beings. They turned their heads, they
looked at me, they looked at him, they looked at me.
And when I left camp, I left camp with with
with with no lights nothing. I just walked into the

(24:03):
darkness with no light. And as soon as I left
the firelight, I knew exactly where I was, but looked
at me, looked at him back and forth, and then
that's when they moved off with it without a sound.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
That the night you got the footage. Were you also
playing classical music? As you mentioned earlier, we were What
were you guys doing around camp that that perhaps drew
them in to take a look at you?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, so near lok we West Dean plays classical music.
I'm not the biggest fan of classical music, but hey,
so yeah, don't don't play classical music.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Long hair, loud music.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Man.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
That was that was rock and roll of the day.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Well, I think, I mean, yeah, even if we come
back to that, I mean, if it was up to me,
If if it's up to me and I'll play Death
Middle out there, I don't think we get many positive reactions.
I think the the engine vibration of the of the
death meddle when we go over to well but so yeah,
so classical music, even the soundtrack from Top Gun, things

(24:56):
like that, purely just to get an attracted I got
a connection of that.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, yeah, you just brought up a really important important
thing here, Gary, I'm sorry to interrupt and everything as
far as Top Gun, is it the original Top Gun
or the sequel?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Now? The original?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
The original? Okay, So it's a direct connection to Bobo then,
is what you're saying. Like the Yoweys are attracted to
Boat because you know, Bobo was involved with the Kenny
Loggins song Playing with the Boys. He was actually in
the video, so.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
He was a little bit footloot, an't I something.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Like that, more like belly bumping, volleyball sort of stuff.
But yeah, dolphin shorts, Yeah, the real bobes.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
And of course you know it's a shame he's on
radio because he really does have the physique and the
dolphin shorts of a you know, sex symbol like that.
Start interrupt, But you brought up an important point. Classical
music and Top Gun soundtrack is what we got.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, exactly right. I even had a video there somewhere
in my fine way. I'm sitting halfway between camp and
back in the darkness, and next thing, a Dean starts
playing danger Zone from that stand from that soundtrack, and
yeah great, yeah, nice mate, nice, but yeah, both of
you do that kind of thing again. Keep the white

(26:11):
light to camp to create and attract. And we even
get the get the camping barbecue out, start cooking up
some moneys and steaks or sausages just to get that
smell out look the average camper does again as an
attractant to to try and hopefully bring something in.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
And I think but with this particular area they I
think we've sort of come to the point and the
realization that it's not it's not the music or the
food that much that brings them in. It's just a
very high, highly active area. I mean this this particular location.
Look up above, end below. When you enter a certain location,

(26:50):
you'll hear a whistle in the valley below you as
soon as you enter location, and then the tree knock
on the ridge above you. So they're clearly watching what's
going on. With this particular area. We found foot impressions
for to be the X markers. We've heard old old
men mumbling in the bush, which, as you guys know,

(27:12):
like you could hear someone talking in a deep tone,
but they're far enough away you can't understand what they're saying.
So we've got that kind of thing. We've also got
the scat that we found in the creek book directly
below the thermal location. And this this this scat, we
had it sent to Sydney for testing and with the

(27:32):
worm and bacteria account you know, obviously tell the different
levels of what we know what kind of animal the
scats come from, depending on that that on that those
levels of the worm and bacteria, and as you may know,
the if it comes back at the lost levels, it's
human slash primate, and these levels came back at that
human slash primate. But when the the University City went

(27:57):
to cross reference with cross cross reference to fin is
with human DNA as such, they could not match up
this scat with any known human DNA, so basically come
back as unknown, which obviously it doesn't give chancewers, but
it also gives us a bit of a bit of
a positive up as well, being that they have that

(28:17):
they can't identify it on any of the tables they have.
So I think this whole area is very active, regardless
of music, regardless of food, smells and that kind of
thing as well. We still do it, you know, to
try and keep that that predictability as such as well.

(28:40):
But yeah, I mean the guy, the guys were out
on Thursday night just gone and they got another two
thermal captures from that particular era. Unfortunately, they're not the
same quality or any groundbreaking thermals like well Buck got
that that night almost eighteen months ago. But one in
one particular you can clearly say there's a head with

(29:03):
oyes and a nose, and then the other one you
can clearly see a humanoid. Tod biggest standing.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
The stay tuned for more Bigfoot and beyond with Cliff
and Bobo. We'll be right back after these messages.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, it's just progress. You just gotta keep going it
doing what we do because unfortunately you don't get results
sitting on the couch.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, And you know, you said something here like it's
not groundbreaking footage like the other one is. But I'd
like to point out that that's not the point. You know,
I think that you really are hitting the nail on
the head here because you kind of circle back around
on that a little bit. It's not one individual piece
of footage it's going to do anything. It's going to
it's a collection of footage that's going to turn heads

(29:51):
and draw more interest. I just had a conversation with
doctor Todd Dissattel maybe two years ago or something like that,
unless I might had a face to face with him,
and we were talking about the prospects of trying to
prove the species the sasquatch in this case, without collecting
a type specimen, you know, without killing one essentially. And
Todd was saying, you know, he's a skeptic. He's open
to the subject, but he's a skeptic. He's got a PhD.

(30:13):
He pretty much knows what he's talking about, right for
the for the most part, you know. And he was
saying that if you could get a collection of footage
and a collection of footprints and a small collection of DNA,
all from the same area, that would actually go quite

(30:34):
a long ways in a lot of scientist's mind towards
the supporting the species existence.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I suppose. Now.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Of course, what a lot of people don't realize is
that once you draw the scientists in, they will kill
one and it'll all be over essentially, or they're going
to get somebody to kill one or something like that.
A dead one will happen no matter what, no matter
what avenue you approach this problem, a dead one is
the final result. But at the same time, if you're
not you know, I personally don't want to pull the trigger.

(31:04):
I get it, you know, but that doesn't stop me
from trying to get a collection of footprints and video
and whatever else from one area. Now, Todd did say
a collection of good video, which is different than thermal,
But a therma is a good start. And the fact
that you've gotten more than one thing out of this
one area is groundbreaking. That in itself is groundbreaking. It'd

(31:26):
be the same achievement as if you pulled a bunch
of footprint casts out of one area, as Tom Shay
did or Bob Titmas did, or Paul Freeman and West
Summerlin and Bill Lowry and those guys did, And you
are doing that groundbreaking work. So I guess this is
me gently encouraging you to not downplay what you're doing
by saying that that was groundbreaking. But this is not

(31:48):
because I think you have to look at your work
and your collection as a whole, and then you realize,
holy smokes, we're really doing something here and it sounds
like you guys are.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Thank you, Matt, I've very muchly appreciate that, very very
homewards And yeah, I guess yeah, we put that way. Yeah,
you're right again. Look I got back to thermals plenty
plenty four print scat. There's even possible more more scat
fan last night. Yeah, it's again. You just got to
keep keep plugging forward and do what we can do.

(32:21):
And I do the best we can do, really, eh.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, and it sounds like you're being very successful and
that in itself is groundbreaking. I don't know. I mean,
no one knows much about the YAUI of course, and
probably even less than people know about sasquatches really because
there's so few people in Australia taking an interest versus
you know, in the States here, but up in the States.
It's the data is showing that the sasquatches run here

(32:46):
seem to stay in the same general area. They don't
you know, move six hundred miles one direction and you
know that sort of thing. They kind of stay put
in this you know, ten by or fifteen by fifteen
mile area or something like that. I don't know if
that's the case with the awoy's. I assume it is.
But if that's the case, you're getting information. You're getting
data from the same yaois again and again and again,

(33:06):
and that is going to push the ball further down
the field. You're going to learn a lot more about
not only the species, but your individual group of the
aoy's that you're dealing with, which will help you, in
turn in the future get even more information from it.
It's a snowball effect. So you are doing everything right now,
that's going to be happier. There's a group of guys
down there, group of people down there doing what you
guys are doing for sure.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Man, I mean, look, you going back to the population,
I do agree that they do stay in a particular
kind of era. We have sort of worked out within
the Gold Coast Hinderland that there is a general general
sort of four to five different troops or groups tribes,
which whichever y you want a classic for what but
gaing bar reports that come into us, you know every

(33:48):
single day, the office side of people, whatever whatever number
you have in your head about day population, it's not
even close. Pretti. The wholes and coast of Australia it's
just scattered with sightings everywhere, littered everywhere, and with those
kind of reports. They come in from obviously different areas,

(34:09):
different descriptions, different sizes, as in quite big and buff built,
all too tall and skinny. We've also got the smaller
beings well, the gingity brown jacks. We don't get as
many reports them, but they do spread right through eastern
Australia for the most part, from tip of Queensland right

(34:32):
down to Victoria. So yeah, the migratory paths. I don't
think they're as big as what some people may think,
exactly like what you said, but I think their population
is a lot greater than what people would expect. As well.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Let's talk about the ginger d for a minute. The
brown jacks. Have you had such an experience with those things?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Unfortunately not. I've spoken to many people, even within my
local community who had experiences and seen them. We don't
get too many reports. I think the last report that
we had come in was a couple of months ago
from a bit further on the northern side of the
Gold Coast, from a guy who was driving home at
about eleven eleven thirty at night and he was doing

(35:16):
about sixty five mile an hour and he's driving a
w X with a big body, kitten that kind of thing.
As he's coming down the road, he saw on the
left hand side of the road what he thought was
a rabbit or a wallaby or something like that. So
he slowed down and then when he got closer, this
thing stood up and he could quite clearly see it

(35:37):
was a small humanoid, hairy figure. So he said he
slowed down to about ten to twenty kilometers an hour,
so very very slow, and this being then picked its
knees up and like an Olympic sprinter, sprinted across the
road in front of him. Now, usually with these kind
of encounters, this particular person, it's not his first experience,

(36:02):
so he was he was able to rationalize, rationalize that
particular sighting and encounter lord easier than what most people think.
So this particular person is part five gene. And in
Fiji they call him the Lequa elie Ka. And he
said they live amongst the mangraves, and it's quite commonly
known amongst the fi Jeans about the Lecqua. And from

(36:23):
his description over the phone, he's very close to what
we describe as the brown Jack, the dunity three to
four foot tall, basically basically a miniature yowi. H They
from reports, they tend to get around in groups, and
they tend to be quite mischievous as well, going through campsites,
destroying camp sites, stealing things. As opposed to the yowi

(36:46):
or the quink and the Dula girl, they'll sort of
come in, they'll check things out, maybe tap the tap
on the car, tap on the caravan, press their hand
on the tent and fill your face as you're trying
to sleep. But yeah, the same to just like to
play games instead.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, and of course our listeners you're probably piecing it together.
But the ginger Da or the brown jack is a
small sasquatch or yowie like thing that lives down there,
three four or five feet tall, somewhere in that stretch,
which has given a lot of support and credence now
because of the discovery of not only Homo floresiensis down
in the island of Floores, which is not that far away,
but also Homo lose on ences, a new human species.

(37:27):
It is also small, very few fossil has been recovered
from it. But again it's another small three to four
foot tall hairy homanoid, and even to this present day
there is at least one and possibly two forms of
small relic hominoids on the island of Flores where Homo
fleuresiensis was discovered. Now, how they got to Australia, I
don't know. Probably the same way everything else did, I suppose.

(37:49):
But reports like this are prevalent and still go on
to this present day. And my question to you, Gary
would be is and then this I really don't know this,
So it's a good question for me, I think. Is
there any way to tell between to differentiate between a
brown jacker, a gingity and a juvenile yahwi okay?

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I can only answer that from basically a witness testimony.
So our teammate Shannon Guthrie, so a little a few
months ago, he was on his way to work on
the back side of the mountain that I live on
at four point thirty in the morning on his motorcycle.
Came around the corner and there is a small being

(38:34):
on the side of the road in the middle of
the road and he actually had to correct his line
on his bike. They say he wouldn't hit this bean
in the middle of the road and going from his
description this this being was very child like in appearance.
And then when we speak to other beings, sorry, other
witnesses who have had gringity experiences, they tend to often

(38:58):
give give the representation that the face of these smaller
beings is very is very old and weathered, basically like
an elderly person in the face. So that's that's really
the closest we can get to actually differentiating between a
juvenile yooi and a jingity. So apart from that, it's

(39:22):
it's it's the jingity getting around in their little groups
and the yowi getting around in pairs as such. Unfortunately,
we haven't come across too many cases where we can
actually distinguish between the two.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
What a our footprint casts like after a sighting of
one of these that you think is either a brown
jack or a yowi or maybe a juvenile yady yawi,
are there any differentiations or marks? I guess that one
can tell the difference between those beasts and the footprints.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Not that we've sayen we've only really come across the
yowi footprints, and we have come across smaller childlike footprints,
but they're often walking parallel with is like a fifteen
sixteen seven inch footprint rob beside them, So we've often
taken that as a juvenile yaley walking with their parent.
I personally don't even think I've even heard of anyone

(40:11):
even coming across tingity footprints to be honest.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Okay, yeah, we were showed some we were shown some
stuff when we were down there where Ray Dowry actually
showed us. Dougherty showed us some stuff, but I couldn't
tell the difference between human and that. I mean, they
looked human to me, and I would think that if
these things are, if these things are at all related
to homophoresciences or something like that, which I would have,

(40:34):
I think as a reasonable guess that they might be,
you know, don't know for sure, but a reasonable guess
they would have some sort of flexibility in the mid
part of their foot, and these that we saw simply
did not, which is one of the confounding things about Australia,
at least the things that I found to be confounding
is that, yeah, you do find barefoot footprints out in
the brush, but the Aboriginals, the indigenous people of Australia,

(40:57):
never wear shoes unless they go into town because they
don't want to get like civilizations filth on them. But
for the most part they're they're walking around barefoot out
in the woods, which really, you know, makes things a
little bit more difficult to discern. I guess, so I
don't know, do you have any thoughts on that?

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah, exactly. That's like in certain locations where we have
found the smaller type footprints, we have to think rationally.
We alsoys have to rule out what it could be
before saying what it is. Which in any kind of research,
regardless what we find, including last night, you always have
to reule out what it could be before saying what

(41:34):
it is. Not everything is how we will be related. Uh,
And when we have found these smaller type footprints, we
have we altously get excited. Here's some footprints, is you know,
three four track impressions in a line gain a particular direction.
But then you got to think, okay, well, we've come here,
we've noticed that there's four drive tracks coming here, We've

(41:57):
noted that noticed that people go to the creek a
couple hundred meters dinner to go for a swim. So
when we sort of come across these kind of things,
we'll obviously have to take that into consideration that it
might not be what we want to want it to be.
It could just be people and kids walking as opposed
to driving on these tracks to get to the creek.
And again coming back to the terrain of Australia, it

(42:20):
is very hard to actually get castable footprints on top
of that as well, and with the hundreds of track
impressions of found where you can see TOAs you can
see heel, I've only made four or five casts out
of hundreds that I found that were actually decently castable.
Otherwise you can make the cast, but you're not going

(42:42):
to say anything. Even with the trying to look for
a mid tass will break, You're just not going to
see it. So unfortunately, it can be very situational as well.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.
Will be right back after these messages. I was perusing
your footprint stuff over on the Yowi Hunters dot com
website and that's a great website by the way, and
some of these footprints and there's some handprints on there

(43:14):
which I think are pretty interesting. Some of these footprints,
the footprint finds are very compelling, very compelling, and very
reminiscent of the Sasquatch here in North America. But something
I'm noticing here, even if they don't look human to me,
and there's some telltale field marks that you'd want to
look to see if they're human. Some of them are
reminiscent of human, but some of the ones are not,

(43:35):
And they tend towards being fairly small, is what I've noticed. Yeah,
there's some bigger ones on here, don't get me wrong,
there's fifteen, sixteen, even some seventeen inch ones as far
as I can tell, but some of these look quite
small and quite inhuman. At the same time, I'm actually
very impressed with some of the footprints that have been
photographed and some of the few have been that have

(43:55):
been casted as well, so good job on that stuff.
It also appears that they seem to walk with very
little straddle on their footprints, which is another hallmark of
the North American Sasquatch as well. They're not quite exactly
tightroad walking, as I've mentioned before in this podcast, that
is really overblown in the Bigfoot community. We really say
they're an exact straight line through the snow well it's

(44:17):
probably an animal jumping. Then there's always a little bit
of straddle and you see just a smidge of straddle
between these left and rights that you have trackways photographed of.
And they're very interesting and very compelling, and looking at
some of these footprints, a lot of them remind me
of other footprints in the data set here from North America.

(44:37):
And it's really great that you guys put all that
out so we can learn from what you guys are
doing down there too.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Some of those stuff we look human.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, some of them I think are probably human, but
there are many actually, even some of the smaller ones
that are in the human range that I don't think
are really tiny.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
One looks like that Cas Dave Ellis got up in Washington,
the baby four inch foot one.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
I'm looking at one right now. It is Nightcap National Park,
I guess. And then we in Conservation Area, New South Wales.
That little baby print is adorable. First of all, it's
just absolutely precious, and it's with a larger one. But
that even that larger one doesn't look very large. Might
have been what nine inches maybe ten or something. It's
hard to say. There's no scale item in it, which
is also an American bigfoot researcher trait sometimes not putting

(45:22):
scale items in the picture.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah, for sure. I think also, you know, going back
to the destrade as well, I do think people do
often expect them expect they straight lawn track impressions, as
you were saying. But from what we found, it's it's
very it's it's very uncommon that they actually do find
that kind of thing, even if it is through mud

(45:44):
or sand. It's it's never really taught plot rope walking,
as you call it. And on top of that, we
will say as well, when when when people famed one
track with two tracks, uh print impressions, I should say,
and then I said, well that they simply just disappeared.
What people often forget is that with the size of
these beings and the length of their stride, I find

(46:09):
that people make the mistake of looking looking and say
half a meter to a meter in front of that
of that last foot impression, you know, as as opposed
to looking say two to three meters ahead. They often say,
you know, these these tracks just stopped. But if these
people a should look look ahead, look for maybe a

(46:32):
rock or a log, or a softer piece of ground.
You can usually pick up these track impressions as well
and continue on following where this being was walking. Again,
people often sort of look at the human stride and
expect that a being that's going to be nine foot
tour with an eighteen inch footprint is going to have
half half a meter gate when they walk. Just what

(46:54):
Once you can open people up to that idea of
looking two to three times a distance they normally would,
then you can usually pick up the truckway and continue
to continue to follow it.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Well, I think that's an excellent point and something that
a lot of people forget. I deal with a lot
of people in the United States, of course, obviously, and
they said, why was there only one footprint there, Cliff?
You know why because it beamed in or teleported here
or whatever. It's like, no, probably, well, come, I didn't
find any more footprints. And you know, I'm kind of
callous an old jerk nowadays. So I said, because you're
not that good of a tracker, And they say, oh,

(47:27):
but I but I found that one and said, well
you don't.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
You just don't.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
You're you might be used to tracking deer or bear
or something like that. But as you're saying, did you look,
you know, two to three meters, you know, six to
nine feet in front of it. Probably not, And even
if you did, would you be able to find it,
because Sasquatch feet like Yawi feet are big and soft
and padded and flexible, and they're bending around stuff and
they just are not they're not. They're not things that

(47:51):
are that are easily recorded in the ground. As they
You might be able to find some trace of them,
but it might not be what you're looking for, because
everybody's looking for that clear five toed print that looks
like a big old human print, and that's obvious, and
because a big animal like that would probably leave one.
Not the case at all.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
No, it just does.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
It simply does not happen. And you bring up a
lot of good points there.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah. Again, going going back to the hundreds of prints
that I've found, I've only found personally five that locker
cars out of hundreds. Again, going back to the foliage,
going back to where did they walk? Did they step
on a rock? Do they step on a log? Like
a good little little little size story for you, is

(48:32):
that location where we're screamed at, you know, those years ago?
Going back to the location one day checking out another
little area in our same location. Come across it looked
like a party, like there was like thirty or thirty
hours and out of the party running around this one area.
There's prints everywhere. But because we're on the bikes, we're

(48:56):
in leathers, because this is an area that we gave
for a ride. I obviously didn't have any casting material
with me, so I've gone out checking out all these
foot impressions lay over the place, and then I tracked
them down in the northern northerly direction. I'm looking for
movement in the ground. Broken sticks and they stepped and

(49:18):
snapped the stick, general movement through the area, and as
a come as it come to one foot one movement impression,
I found another, found another, and you can see where
something has stepped on this side of the fallen log
fallen free and then where the next foot has stepped
over the log on the other side of the ground.

(49:40):
Kept going and I come across like one left hand footprint,
which is only a partial footprint. You could see the heel,
you could see the big toe that was about it,
and but the terrain it was not castable. Even if
it did cast it would have just come out as
a mess. And while I'm taking photo and via of this,

(50:02):
I'm noting that, Okay, here's his foot impression. Look I
look ahead, I can't see another foot impression. But what
I did notice after that were two fallen trees, say
two meters ahead, six feet ahead, that had movement signs.
Movement where over top of these fallen trees. So I've

(50:25):
taken that as the signs of this left hand footprint.
That was the last step, the next step when on
top of these fallen trees. I ended up tracking these
foot impressions for like another hundred meters, I say, But
the interesting thing to note about this particular situation is
that when I was taking photo and video of this
left hand partial footprint, the heel, the big toe, you

(50:48):
can see the arch of the foot. It measured at
about seventeen eighteen inches. Off to my right through the rainforest,
I heard a bit of movement. I stopped, I turned
on the right. I didn't see anything. I didn't hear
anything anymore, and then I continued on my way across
the logs again track these beings another one hundred meters,

(51:08):
so I come to the culvert which went under the road,
and from there lost the lost the track impressions. We
decided to come back at night time. So when we
come back in night on, I knew exactly where these
trackways were, so we wanted to investigate this area a
bit more at night. So I've taken a couple of
mates in there. We've gone the exact same path that

(51:31):
I took to final these track impressions, et cetera. And
when we got to where this partial seventy eight foot
impression was, it was gone. The ground was all scrubbed over.
We couldn't find any track impressions at all in that
particular pathway. But what we found interesting was that there

(51:54):
was some tree limbs that had been broken off nearby
trees and they've been jammed in the ground in the
middle of this trackway that was there, I'm assuming to
look like naturally growing trees.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Was the ground soft or was it dry when they
shoved the branches in?

Speaker 2 (52:11):
It would have been soft enough to quite easily jam
gen me these branches in the ground. When you know
I took that, is took that as the movement that
I heard when I was photo photoing and videoing this
this partial partial impression was I got busted finding in
their trackway, and then once we've left, they've then broken

(52:35):
these these limbs off trees, gemmed them in the ground
to cover up the trackway and also to make it
look like they're naturally growing trees.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Now, that was another commonality with where you got the
thermal footage as well, that what there are other sticks
shoved in the ground, and that's why you said.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Right, correct, correct, So sometimes some summer twigs, some are
two three inches thick. Now, before we going further with this,
I will say that mother nature does do some tricky things.
So when we when we've often spoken of these sticks,
people say, well, we find sticks and ground all the time.
They fall from trees. Yes, they do. They one hundred

(53:12):
percent do fall from trees. It's not one we related
every time. But the big thing is when when we
do find a lot of these sticks, there's usually no
tree canopy above. So this, this this big stick in
the grounds appeared out of nowhere. There are in locations
where bushwalkers don't go, there's there's no trails, et cetera.

(53:34):
And another thing we often find as well that we
sort of lean more towards yowee activity is that a
lot of these sticks when our gem in the ground
is that every every other limb on the stick has
been snapped off, so there's there's no little extra little
twigs and that kind of thing hang off off these sticks.

(53:56):
It's all open has been stripped off. Sometimes we found
sticks have been snapped and when they snap them, they
snapped the meat of the meat of the stick, but
that they don't break the bark and actually twist and
tie the bark around the top of the stick as well.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
That thermal say, it was like a fire break road, right,
it was off there like the trailer you guys took
in there, because didn't you when you found that was
it an old road? I guess there was tons of sticks, chan,
I remember watching a video on that when you guys
released the video.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Yes, it's a it's a fire trail that links up
to a walking trail. You know, with the amount of
times we've been there, we've only seen one of the
one other pair of people who were there at that
particular location. Like we've been there during day and night.

(54:51):
So bushwalks and stuff will often put sticks in the
ground to signify it basically trail markers. But again a
lot of these locations that we go to. There's no
like we ourselves are making your way through the bush,
So we asselves are creating that movement through the bush,

(55:11):
you know, moving through the grass, snapping of limbs, that
kind of thing. But it's a fall trial which goes
in a walk control, which is extremely rarely used. At
the most. You must see the National Parks Department getting
ready for summer coming and doing a bit of clearing.
But that's really about it.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Well, we're in Australia, I think it was. It was
the National it was there. There have been some pole
less than ten percent of the people and I STI
didn't heard of it, yea, like they all think of
the candy But when we were down there, like because
I always talk to like everyone, like you know, people
the checkout girl at the store, like a waiter, waitress,

(55:52):
people at the gas station. I always go you got
these stories, you know anything where and people that are
I just say like, well, what about the candy bar.
I'm like no, like the bigfoots are They're like no.
I said yeah. They're like like yeah, yeah, I say yeah,
you guys have something like that here. They're like no.
I'd be like Yeah, there's tons of reports that they
had no clue. It was like, you guys were way

(56:15):
like it was like America probably like in nineteen forties.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
It seemed like, Yeah, unfortunately it's it is very much
like that here. It's it's sort of been put backs
like Aboriginal folklore. It's not really pushed in a public
life very very much, if if at all. You know,
the last couple of years, it's getting better. I mean,
even though like with the amount of people that that
that come forth to us, you know, being we were politicians, police, military,

(56:44):
medical doctors, scientific doctors, scientists. We have witness accounts from
all all walks of life, so the word is out there.
But I think just the general population, it's almost like
they will will fully ignorant to this situation, even if
a friend of a friend might tell them a story

(57:05):
about when they were camping or something like that and
they just passed it off and drinking too much or whatever.
But again, the last couple of years it has got
a lot better. We just got to hope you just
keep pushing forward and try and really get it out there.
And you know, the last siding we had that we
had come in was last Friday, and that was from

(57:26):
a lady going to work and she sort of saw
this being a big, massive black one take off on
the side of the road. She put it on a
local a local Facebook group as an anonymous post. She
copt a lot of positive feedback, but she also copt
a lot of negative feedback. And want to say she's
because we found out it is a lady that lives

(57:50):
in a particular era. Other was on the Facebook group.
She again she posted as an anonymous poster. But we
are starting to see comments and that kind of thing
take more of a positive turn as supposed to a
negative turn.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Well, since you are looking for more reports, we do
have a really nice listenership down in Australia. Actually, a
lot of people down there listen to us. We really
do appreciate it. I very often say Australia is one
of the few places I'd like to go back to
that we went to in finding Bigfoot. It was a
lovely area, lovely people, lovely landscape everything and Yaway's are
just outside of town. So anyway, a lot of people
are fans of us down there and they listen. So

(58:26):
where if one of our fans has run into one
of these things or has information that might be of
interest to you, Gary, Where can they get a hold
of you? What's the best way to share their information
with you?

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Yeah, for sure if they can jump on the internet
and go to yowiehunters dot com. Alternatly, alternatively they can
go to Facebook and go to Australian Yawi Research Official
actually putting the official there because there is another group
that is a similar name nothing to do with us,
but yes, is actually putting official should come up. But otherwise,

(58:59):
if you got to so at Johannas dot com you'll
find all the information that you can find there. There's
also a link button to the YouTube channel. Yeah, check
us out. We are active. We are we are at
there doing the best we can to further further this
research and a positive matter.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
And doing a great job doing it as well. And
fantastic results so far a couple as you say, not
life changing, you know, uh, thermal imaging hits is better
than most people yet. Plus that really solid one that
you guys got, it's a really interesting, fantastic looking footage
of two Yawie's not that far away from the thermal
imaging camera. It's just draw jaw dropping. Really. Maybe not

(59:39):
to most people, but Bobo and I have been poking
around a thermist for like a decade or more, and
and yeah, yeah, so it it is jaw dropping. If
you have experienced with therms in the field, excellent job, fantastic.
I look forward to the next piece of thermal imaging
that you guys are going to get and share with us.
So I really appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Well, cool gery. I'm sure you guys are going to
get more foot it seems likely. And you got to
come back and tell us and give us the news
we need to do for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
My definitely read lots more stories to talk of it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Yeah, thank you very much for spending the time you
spent with us. We really do appreciate it. And I really,
just speaking for myself, I really appreciate to get the
effort and the time you guys are spending down there
in Australia to try to get more information out. So
few people are doing it down there, that's my impression,
at least.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Maybe you think that the woods are crawling with people,
but from up here, it seems that very few people
are spending the time out in the bush and it's
really good to see you guys are doing it and
getting results on top of it. So thank you very
much for sharing it with us.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
No, thank you, I appreciate it very much.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
All right, So do you a good day for us?

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
I will bit, I'll tasting me beating side that you
don't want to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
To me, well you can tell them. That's why I
wasn't on the call with them initially.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Nine one walks you Dane.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
All right, Well thanks Gary, all right, Gary, you take
care of Men's gone a good one by there you go, Bobs.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
I think there's a lot more thermally going to come
from all over the world. That I mean, people are
getting closer and closer. The thermals are getting better, cheaper,
the bluetooth capabilities. I mean, there's just so much more.
I expect those guys to get more.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
It's a no brainer, man. But the good information comes
from those small pockets of various locations that people are
actually out there doing it. There's a lot of and
you know, there's a lot of people out there who
proclaim to be bigfooters and whatever. But you know, people
have jobs, they've got a life, they've got families, they've
got their obligations. How much time can one really spend
out in the woods, And people like this team here

(01:01:39):
from the AUSTINIANI and the Ali research team there, they
they're the ones spending the time in the woods and
lo and behold, they're the ones getting results. So kind
of what it takes, man, It just takes some effort
by a group of people working together or in an
individual but spending time in the woods, you will get
results eventually, especially if you're in a good area. Is

(01:02:00):
what it seems to come down to. And it's good
to know people are down there doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Yeah. God, I want to get back there so that.
I can't believe I have not been back because when
we left Australia, like I was talking to the people
down there, like you guys are going to see you
back here any yam be back. I'm we're gonna do
some Yawi stuff. And I haven't been back since.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Well, all right, bos Man, great great job tracking out
of another fantastic guest.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Gary Lynn.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
There. You can reach them at of course, Yawi hunters
dot com. Really great website, great group of researchers down
there and they're getting good results. You have to check
out their thermal imaging, the thermaligion and imaging footage. It's fantastic.
It's really good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Yeah, and there are auto reports, like I said, on YouTube,
you got to check those out. They got the visuals
with it, they got some great reports on there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Yeah, so good job, Bopes. Can't wait to see who
you line up next.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
We got some good is coming up, Cliff, so keep
your pants on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I'll try to, all right, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Well that's another week of Bigfoot Beyond with Cliff and Bobo,
and we were joined this week by Gary Lynn from
Yawi Hunters down Australia. So thanks for listening. Hit like,
hit share Until next week, y'all, keep it squatchy.

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