Ep. 259 - Maximum Clobosity! - Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo

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Big food and be on with Cliffand Bobo. These guys are your favorites,
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hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Bubo Fay. Hello, Bobo. Hey, how
you doing? Man good? How'sit going? Oh I'm I'm exhausted.
Here's a brief rundown of my day. Basically, I got up, I
did a little stretching or whatever,trying to get back on the doing something
with my body bandwagon, got outthe door, grabbed some coffee. I

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had to go to the museum todrop off some books that arrived or whatever.
We got some very limited edition booksfrom Hancock House that we just put
out a post for our members,like what hardback of apes among us?
And when was the last time wesaw hardback? Man, I gotta get
on there. Yeah, well they'reprobably gone by now, but we'll see.
Our members are are are ravenous forcollectibles, which is really cool to

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have big foot nerds of like mine. Big guys, you say what you
want to say. Yeah, youlive in your own fantasy Bobo. But
anyway, so yeah, to dropoff some stuff at the museum yesterday,
I went to the woods. Ididn't find any tracks all the way.
I walked three different three different rivervalleys. I was out there for a
long time, put a lot ofmiles under my feet. I walked three

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different river valleys. Found no signwhatsoever. But remember that tree structure that
I'm not even a structure, thatthe break that I told you about sent
you pictures. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that that
is actually on some private land.So I swung by there and picked that
up. So that is going tobe displayed in the museum now because we
found that thing in December, sowhatever it was doing at the time is

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probably long over by now or maybenot, who knows. But anyways,
to kind of display that amongst ourother tree breaks and all that other stuff
that we have on display. SoI dropped that off at the museum this
morning. But we also got ahold of a map. A gentleman back
east had this map that he askedme, have you ever seen this before
a clif? I go, oh, gosh, no, I've never seen
one of those before. And hesent it to me as a donation to

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the museum is from the eighties,and Kevin Lindley is the guy who made
it. One of these unsung heroesof Bigfoot, and he made the thing
and his name's at the bottom.So yeah, this guy's name is a
leaf from back east somewhere. Hehad a copy of this thing. And
I've spoken to Kevin Lindley on thephone. I've seen his name everywhere.

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He was very, very prolific fora while. I don't know that much
about him, but he went outwith Paul Freeman. I mean, he
was associated with Krantz loosely. Hesomehow got a cast from Bluff Creek that
is almost for sure the Patterson Gimlinfilm subject, but no one knows really
where it came from. Yeah,he was just everywhere, and apparently he

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made this map. So we gota copy of that map from the eighties
and framed it. So I droppedall that stuff off at work, came
home. I did taxes. Thatwas a pleasure, of course, So
I wrote a much checks for thegovernment to go do whatever they do with
it. And then then I geta call at eleven thirty am. And
of course you may have noticed thatwe were scheduled for noon today to do

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our podcast, But at eleven thirtyI get a call from previous guests and
good friend of ours on the show, Dennis Full No way, I got
a half done. I got ahalf done email. I was going to
fish we got done, to senyou could come back on. It is
indeed a small world. Well hementioned that to me, so he basically
said, Cliff, are you atthe museum today? And I go,
well, no, no, today'smy day off. Why are you in
town? He goes, yeah,I'm at the museum right now. No

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way, gotta go. So Ihopped in the car. I figured out,
okay, I got to postpone thepodcast a little bit, which is
why we're late today. Sorry aboutthat, I called bat PROCs. I
figured it probably easier to get aholdof Matt than you, and I said,
Hey, Dennis, Fole's in themuseum right now. I'm gonna be
late. Blah blah blah. Canyou tell Bobo for me please? And
it all worked out. So herewe are an hour and a half later
than we suspected we would be.But I just hung out with Dennis and

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his wife Shannon for the last youknow, forty five minutes in the museum
kind of showing them around and lookat this, look at this, and
you know, and which is Ithink valuable in some ways because the museum
is you've been there many times,but it's kind of laid out where everybody's
going to get something out of it. But when somebody like Dennis or you
or you guys, you Matt orBobo, when one of you guys shows

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up and I'm talking to you,and I go, well, look at
this though, you know, andI coulday, well look at this,
like I can kind of peel backthat layer for you to appreciate something a
little bit more than what most ofthe tourists who come through would get.
And so I was doing that withDennis and like, look, look there's
the act. See this picture fromape cam in nineteen twenty four. Here's

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the actual bailing wire right here.You know, Oh see this This is
Roger Patterson's autograph from the Spokane showwhere Kevin Llewellen was there. He's guy
who donated the Roger Patterson autograph tothe museum. But I said, you
know, well, you know whoelse was in that that Spokane coliseum that
night is a ten year old doctorJeff Meldrum. You know, so like
that extra layer that I get topeel back for the dignitaries and Bigfoot royalty

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that come through. I really enjoythat sort of thing. Yeah for sure.
Anyway, just got home that that'sbeen my day so far. I've
been running for the last what isit, it's almost two now, Yeah,
so running for the last you know, seven hours. Now? What
have you been up to? Man? I got out a couple of days
this week up in the Redwoods.I was gonna I was gonna go out
with Todd and Doug up to Bluffwith them guys. I couldn't make.

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They they hit me at the nightbefore, like I just made plans.
I was like, because I hadthe day, I had the day open,
and I was like what should Ido? And I was like,
I gotta go to the mechanic andI gotta do some appointments. I just
did it all. And so Imade the appointments and then like literally like
a half other of those guy's callsand hey, we're going up. I
was like, damn, I justbooked my day tomorrow. I can't go.
But they didn't find anything that time. But over where I go Fieldbrook

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more like kind of trind it outup that way. Doug was working there
and he found a trackway forty eightinch inch step like couldn't really tell,
but you know, larger than hisbig boot of foot impressions and the deaf
with about a forty eight inch step. Those guys are killing it. Yeah.
Yeah, they're on a roll.I mean between the Prince of Bluff

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with that thing there that they're observationof a sasquatch on you know, in
Mount Hood over here just a fewmonths ago and in January. Yep.
Yeah, it's it's like anything else. You get it on a roll.
You get in the zone, youknow, you get in the thicker room
and just things flow. You justgot to ride it as long as you
can because it comes to stop atsome point. Yeah. Yeah, I
guess for our listeners who may notknow who Doug and all these characters are,

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Matt pro can put that link inthe show notes and then you can
listen to their account of their sightingthat they just had on January twenty fifth,
twenty twenty four. And of coursethey are also a guest of ours
because they found some snowprints up inBluff Creek last year I think it was
yep. So yeah, I beenbusy. And of course this coming week,

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I don't know. Hey, MattPrue, when will this go out
in the air? This is goingto come out on Monday the twenty second.
Twenty second. Oh well, letme tell you how great the Epe
Canyon event was this past weekend.That hasn't happened yet. That's the thing
about podcasts. I'd love to tellyou all about the eight Canyon event,
but I can't do it because ithasn't happened yet. But this weekend,
man, you know what's going tohappen. To say it's awesome, just

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say it happened. I can saythat it is awesome. I can say
that it is awesome because of allthe people that are going to be here.
You sure you can't come up,Bubs dog, I go down to
see my pops. He's not doingtoo Oh yeah, yeah, that is
more important, I guess. Butwell, you'll be missed. A lot
of good people are going to behere. So we'll take pictures and I'll
talk about it all. I'm sureI'll talk for half an hour about it

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next time we get together. Soanything else going on before we get into
the episode here. Oh, Ireceived an email from I got Washington.
I'm looking at it right now.I haven't talked to him yet, but
I just left the message back.He thinks he might have got sick and
some kind of scabies like rash fromcollecting bigfoot hair samples. Oh, I've
heard something about that sick. Whatwas that kernel over in the Soviet Union

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during the war in nineteen forty one, Colonel whatever. They captured that almasty
and they said it was really hot. They had to keep it outside because
it was overheat in the room,and that it was like five degrees celsius.
It would be like panting and actinglike I had heat stroke, you
know that one? And it hadtwo. They discovered two kinds of lice
on it that was unknown. Thatsounds something I don't remember the details,

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but that sounds vaguely familiar. Ohyeah, yeah, I know that.
I know for Sure'm right on everythingI said so far. It was forty
one or forty three. It wasduring World War Two, and they thought
it was some kind of spy.It was a six foot tall, like
Neanderthal kind of guy. They discoveredtwo parasites on that were not known in
the catalogs of of any documented speciesof that. So I was wondering if

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be something like that could have actuallytransferred him some kind of parasite like a
scae, because he said, it'slike scamies, but it's not well,
what are you going to do withthat? Are you going to follow up
on it? Or what are yougoing to do? Yeah, I I
called them to see it's you know, what's going on. I was gonna,
you know, contact Doug and Jeffand because Doug's interested in the secretions

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and that sort of stuff. Andalso there was the young lady LaVerne's granddaughter
who when she touched the Bigfoot,got the oil on her hands, and
then she rubbed her face and rubbedher eyes, and she her eyes turned
completely bloodshot. She went blind fora couple of days. He had to
take her to Seattle and they neverfigured it out, but her vision went
from twenty twenty to twenty two hundredlike within a matter of days. From

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touching the big she went when shethought her friend was sitting on the curbin
at the street light, she walkedup and touched it, and she realized
it was one of the squatches andit stood up. It was like close
to seven foot tall, and thenit walked off or whatever. She ran
away screaming. But when she wascrying and screaming, she robed her eyes
and that she said the smell washorrible and when whatever she touched, it
would stink to where she touched.And she was rubbing the tears from her

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eyes trying to see the what showedher eyes. The more blurry they got,
she kept rubbing them, rubbing them, and she just robed that oil
in her eyes and it screwed herup. On the next episode of Sasquatch
Optometrist, Yeah, I just can'tsee touching a Sasquatch. I know.
She's one of the few people I'vetalked to people that are like, you
know, bumped in them or whatever, had them touch them, like when

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they were sleeping or through a tentor something like that. But you had
to touch, actually feel the hairy, oily skin and hairs. That's pretty
rare. Oh, and something elsethat happened, Uh, this is just
yesterday. I popped. I poppedin the museum for oh, because I
was going for the walk, youknow, I was going to the woods
yesterday. So around noon or somethinglike that, I dropped by to pick

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up one of the video cameras becausethat's one of the rules that I have
for myself is that I always bringa video camera with me, because you
can't film one if you don't havea camera, so and I don't want
to, you know, if Ihave my phone or a video camera,
I'd rather have a video camera franklyfor doing that sort of thing. So
I always walk with the video camerain my hand. And also, if
anything good happens I find a printor something, I can document it for
the you know, for either myown use or I can make a video

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for my museum members or something.But anyway, I dropped by the museum
and guess who shows up. Basicallythe whole band of drummers from Chiliquin from
the Klamath episode down there in theclimat. Oh really yeah, yeah,
all those people were there. TheJohnson's I think the name was. One
of the women said that she shetexted you when she found footprints or something

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when they're camping. I think itwas yeah, yeah, yeah, she's
talking. I guess she's in contactwith you to some degree. I gave
her my number and she said shewas going to text me, and I
haven't received it, so I hopeand I gave the right number. I
mean, I'm a little dyslexic sometimesI know I've given my number wrong out
incorrectly, So if you're listening,I'm sorry if I that, but I

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haven't. I haven't received a textfrom yet. Yeah, I told her
like, oh, you know,I you can't get a hold a Bobo.
I live about as far away fromyou as he does, so you
know, Bobo can't make it down. I'm happy to come down and cast
prints or something like that. Yeah, but they were in yesterday so I
hung out with them for a whileand it was great. They were really
nice people and they had a lotof nice things to say about the museum
and caught up about the Bigfoot stuffthat's happening down by Klimath Lake and stuff

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out by Yams Mountain and all thatjazz. So it was cool. Yeah.
When I lost all that weight,I had a ton of clothes like
double X talls and you know,like sas forty two and forty four ways
forty ways, and a bunch ofextra large jackets double extra large jackets triple
actually triple X too, and thenthey had some big fellas in that in
that fantas. Here this stuff,you guys can have all this stuff.

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There's stuff they brought him, likeseveral boxes of stuff. So they probably
look like bows walking around like fromthe show, because you know, I
had that seven had like seven shirtsand each of those shirts yeah yeah,
yeah, yeah, And of coursethat makes sense to me. But for
our listening audience, we had towear the same clothing every day of the

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episode. That because you don't filmepisodes in the order that they are portrayed
on television. You know, likeone day doesn't lead to the next as
it seems to during the episode.So we're on a shoot for you know,
nine days or eight days or whatever. You have to wear the same
clothing so they can edit it togetherand you won't be wearing different clothing when

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something happens immediately afterwards, supposedly,you know, because remember TV's a lie
basically, you know, at theend of the day, it's not really
one expedition that is portrayed as such. We don't arrive and then go do
this, and then go do this. It almost never happens in that same
order, So in order to pieceit together, they have to make it

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look like it's the same. Andwhich is why you know, we're all
wearing the same clothes, even thougheven on the TV episode it seems like
it's three days later. It's becausewe're we have to wear the same clothing.
So what we did is we generallybought multiple, multiple copies of the
same clothing. Like I always wearlike a black T shirt underneath my my
button down, and I would justchange that black T shirt underneath every day

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because that's why I sweat on underneaththe underneath the button down. So yeah,
so Bobo would have a bunch ofdifferent clothing from the same same place
A little behind the screen. TVnonsense for you, Plus how I was
spilling stuff on my clothes. Idid more changes than you. Guys.
We never did get you a bib, did we. No, that was
the stupidest thing. I should havehad one the whole time. Would have

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saved me a lot of trouble.Well, it's not too late. You
can still get a bib. Ihad one, I didn't get another one.
I don't know where I think cretiveto the other one away though,
is unbecoming. Stay tuned for moreBigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.
We'll be right back after these messages. So what we got going on today,

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it's just you and I hanging out. No guests today is what we
call our topical episodes, where youknow, whenever you or me or Matt
Pruet or somebody we're even take submissionsfrom the audience too. Sometimes, whenever
there's a newspaper article of some sortthat we think is interesting in some sort
of way, generally tangential to Sasquatchor some similar topic that we think is

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important, that you know, isthought provoking and interesting in some sort of
way, we send it to Wesend it to Matt Prue and he archives
it because I don't know about you, Bobo, but I quickly forget about
them. So Matt Pruitt saves allthese things, and then once every blue
moon we get together and we kindof break them out and talk about them
to see what we have to sayabout them. Then, so we have

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a number of articles today to kindof delve into that we've been saving up
over these last few months or whateversince the last time we did one of
these. Should we jump in withany of them, in particular, Bobes,
is there one you want to startout with? Washington Sheriff receives bizarre
sasquatch called curious hunter. I don'tthink it was that bizarre, but as
supposed I don't get that all thetime. Okay, well, yeah,

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let's take a look at these becauseour listening audience doesn't know the article yet.
I think I read this thing ontwo or three different platforms, I
think, and the gist, well, the title of this one is watching
Washington Sheriff receives bizarre sasquatch call fromcurious hunter. The out of town huntsman
inquired about the legality of hunting asasquatch. Well, I don't know,

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I mean, is that a bizarrecall? I mean, I think maybe
in most people's world it might bea bizarre call, but not in ours.
So this is about from about twoor three weeks ago. Last week
in Stevens County in eastern Washington,the sheriff's received a phone call from a
man who is out who's going tovisit the area and look to hunt for

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a sasquatch. Basically, apparently,the sheriff put this on Facebook and that
the caller told the police said hewas going to be traveling to the area
and sometime in mid April, andhe wanted to hunt in the Big Meadow
Lake area of northern Washington. TheSheriff's office initially tied to tell the man,
it's like, well, you shouldprobably talk to the Fish and Game,
you know, But he said,well, but apparently he had already

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called the Fish and Game and theytold him to call the sheriff. I
love it already. Yeah, Sobasically the man's man's concern is that he
wanted to be legal while he washunting for sasquatches in the Big Meadow Lake
area because he wasn't sure. Hesaid that the Washington state regulations regarding sasquatch
hunts were unclear. Oh I justlove this. There's nothing about this that

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doesn't make me giggle a little bit. I guess killing a sasquach would make
me giggle very much. Yeah,well, you know, do you have
a dark sense of humor though?Yeah, but still this, I just
love this whole thing. So yeah, he called, and he asked whether
or not shooting a sasquatch was illegalin Stevens County and whether a regular hunting
license was enough to keep his sasquatchhunt above board legally because he did.

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And he also said he went outof its way, saying, but be
clear, I'm not gonna hunt orkill a female sasquatch. That's the part
I like, Well, it makessense because you know in Washington, you
know, in Pacific northwestle East,you're not allowed to kill male or a
female deer. A lot of otherplaces in the country I think you can,
though, Oh yeah, dude,like West Virginia you can kill six
or seven the year. Yeah,but it been in our in our neck

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of the woods, you can onlykill bucks. So I mean, I
guess that question does make some sensefrom his perspective, right, Yeah,
for sure. I like how he'slike real, like he's like he didn't
want to get caught into their bureaucracy, like like flim flying, Like he's
trying to be very clear and explicitbecause you know, just you know,
we've all gone through the government regulationkind of whatever trying to get see what's

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permissible or not. You're just gettingrunning around looped and loot and you're like,
well I was told this, andlike too bad. This is what
it's really the deal. So anyway, the Stevens County sheriff office, he
called the called the man back,I guess, and he explained that Meadow
Lake where the guy wanted to gohunting, was actually in nearby penned Orville
count or Raville County Sheriff's jurisdiction,and that there is no sasquatch in Stevens

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County. Oh, recall, he'sa lying. Yeah, I know what's
up with that. Stevens County,Washington. Okay, I'm looking at a
map right now. Oh it's Caulville, the Calville res Bossburg is in Stevens.
No sasquatch in their county. Oh, that's a big dud of the
sheriff's out there, guys. Lawenforcement is a good thing, right.
My dad was a cop, etcetera. You know, I have a

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lot of support and a lot ofadmiration for these people. You know,
they have the hardest job in theworld, and politically, you know,
tumultuous climate and yeah, generally goodpeople, you know. But to say
that there are no sasquatch in StevensCounty is a statement born of ignorance,
I hate to say it, andof course, I imagine lost and lots
of law enforcement people probably listen tothis podcast. Clearly you're you agree with

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me on this. There are sasquatchesin Stephens County, I mean the Bossburg
sidings out there. Yeah, ridiculousstatement. And really, if I was
told that by an authority, Iwould no longer consider that authority valid and
I would just do what I wantedto do anyway. Right. Oh,
and by the way, he goeson to say that not only are there
no sasquatches in Stephens County, butwe know this because one of our deputies

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would have accidentally hit one with thepatrol car by now right, Well,
that doesn't say very much for theirdeputies, does it, Like, really,
what are they? Are they hiringthe Keystone cops or something like?
What is going on here? Ifyou're in a walk around in a gorilla
seat up there in Steven's County gethit by a sheriff killed, they would
have eventually accidentally run you over byNow does that make it so? I

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guess the logical the logical conclusion tothat statement is that our deputies have now
run over and killed on accident everyspecies of animal that lives here. And
the fact that we have not runover and killed a sasquatch proves that that
there are no Sasquatches in Stevens County. Logic, I guess. And then,

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of course, you know, theback end of the article says,
okay, they quote the Matts Group, the BFRO, The BFRO says there's
seven hundred and eight credible sightings orsomething in Washington, and say, well,
there's a lot more than that.Two zero's probably oh yeah, yeah,
just lots and lots more than that, because I mean, I mean,
I have one hundred and fifty myselfin the last four years, you

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know, reports coming into the museumfrom jess Oregon and Washington. And that's
four years, and Matt's been doingstuff since ninety five. It's just said
that a lot of people don't tell, a lot of people don't tell.
And then they go on to talkabout the nineteen ninety two resolution in Watcom
County that proclaimed the entire area asasquatch refuge. And of course you can't
talk about the law in anyway withBigfoot without mentioning this Comania County ordinance.

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Although I think they have some ofthe numbers wrong there. It was in
sixty nine that they made this ComaniaCounty Ordans and it was a ten thousand
dollars fine, even though this articlesays one thousand dollars. And then in
nineteen eighty four, where I believethey rewrote it and the fine went down
significantly. No, went down.Wait, it says not to exceed ten
thousand or imprisonment in kind of jailfor five years. Yeah, that was

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the original sixty nine version that saysit later changed the law to state that
any permitted, premeditated will full orwanton slang of any such creature Shelby deaned
of fell any puns will I finenot to exceed ten thousand and or imprisonment
for kind of jail for five years. Okay, I'm on it. Let
me find it. The first insixty nine was one thousand dollars fine a

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year in jail. Then they upto ten thousand and five years. I
feel they got that backwards. Onedoes government lower fees and fines. Oh
that's true, that's true. Okay, I'm just going to let my search
option to do the thing. Sowhen I run across the information, I'll
give it to you. But nonetheless, so Anyway, that was a news
item that crossed the desk and Ithought was kind of fun. And I've

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got to applaud that person. Hewants to do right by the law.
He doesn't want to abuse the recentof huntable sasquatches. I guess he's not
going to take a female one ora young one. I think that's very
admirable as well. Wonder but youknow April is right now, he's probably
out there now, call in buddy, Yeah, it's probably. I think
he's a listener, undoubtedly, undoubtedlyeverywhere. I think we are the world's

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biggest podcast now first or second.Yeah, I think I think Rogan's looking
at us and going, man,I wish we had the Bigfoot audience.
Yeah, he blew it. Weren'tyou on Rogan or something? What was
your running with more than ten yearsago? Twelve years ago or something like
that? You did the podcast orthat TV show he had for a minute
or what it was a podcast?It's not one of the same one,

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but I guess it was pretty newback then. I didn't even really know.
I mean I'd heard a podcast anddidn't really care about him, and
then my agent was all excited,going dude, Joe Rowan, He's like
a big fan and he listened allthe time, and it was it was
first getting big. But to me, he was just like, like,
here's the guy out on Fear Factor. I like him because of I've seen

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him on the UFC, like thefight stuff. But like I, I
was not a fan of his comedyat all. I didn't know anything about
the guy. And then he washe was cool dude. He invited me
back three different times. I wasinvited back. And this sounds so stupid,
but like I was running around alot. I'd be in LA and
I'd forget to call him, likehe goes just dropping whatever day he can
come by, like all right,yeah. Then I'd be done there for

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like three or four days and I'dbe running around and I just forget.
Or one time I remember, butthen it was like I would have to
drive out there in traffic. I'mlike, I'm not driving across LA and
traffic, no way. Speaking ofcomedians who love Bobo today, I posted
this for our membership today, butit popped up in my Facebook memories that
on basically this day, fourteen yearsago is when we wrapped the shoot for

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Strange days with Bob Saggat, andso all those photos popped up in my
memory, so I shared a fewof them with the patrons. But Sagate
really loved Bobo too. Bobo,you have that effect on comedians. I
gave him a lot of material.It's fun to hang out so they can
say something downe they can make funof. I thought about that earlier when
you objected to Cliff say bigfoot nerds, because that was like one of my

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first memories of that trip was usstanding around in Cliff telling Saget, we're
all a bunch of big foot nerds, and you said, I'm not a
nerd. I'm effing cool. Goback and listen to episode one one,
folks, if you want to hearthe story behind that episode. Yeah,
and actually, if you want tohear Bobo on Joe Rogan, it's episode
two forty one. Oh is thatwhat it is? Okay? Yeah,

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I just looked it up, sothat's rare. He's at two thousand something
now, So I was, yeah, where I think it was twenty twelve.
It said, right, it doesn'thave the date on here. It
just says, I mean it probablyhas it somewhere on here. But I
don't look at episode two forty one. I think Joe Rogan probably owes you
with thanks for getting the Bobo bump. You know, yeah, undoubtedly.

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It's just so unfortunate that he,you know who, he went bigfooting would
turned him off so bad because ifhe would have had a big Foot encounter,
Dude, just imagine how much frickin'that would have done for the research,
you know, I just people like, I mean, he he has
he I mean, he has somany contacts. Like if Roan was looking
for Bigfoot, the raytheon Flair thatI'll be going, what do you need?

(26:07):
What do you need? Like whatyou like? It'd be like finding
Bigfoot times one hundred, like likethe stuff they hooked us up. What
they would have done. I mean, if it was an audience, I
think they would have just been overbackwards. Didn't he talk to Meldrum because
I know that he had Dan Akroydon there at some point talking about UFOs,
And I just saw the clip thatAckroyd was saying. Rogan is saying
that big Bigfoot is nonsense, itdoesn't exist, blah blah blah, and

(26:30):
he goes, no, no,there's science, there's no science, But
no, there is that. DanAkrod said there's a guy, doctor Jeff
Meldrum, and yeah, because uh, I guess dan Akroyd's very aware of
doctor Jeff Meldrim. And in fact, now that I'm talking speaking out loud
of Spring to Memory, I believethat doctor Meldrum borrowed one of dan Ackroyd's

(26:51):
shirts or vice versa, for someTV appearance that they were both. Yeah,
there's a story out there of thatas well. So crazy little world
we live in. Yeah, Oh, Bobcat's coming here for a four to
twenty show. Oh is he theHumboldt Huh? Yeah, you should.
You should go see him. Iwas thinking I think I should. Yeah.
His his comedy act is hilarious.We saw him when he was in

(27:12):
town last year. He's so frickingfunny, Like I never thought he was
funny on TV or movies, buthis well, his movies not like the
Police Academy. So just to beclear, though you think Police Academy's funny,
No, I thought Bobcat's character wasnot funny at all, all right,
just checking because he owns all thosemovies, he owns them. Yeah,

(27:33):
yeah, he's like the executive producer. I believe for them, really,
no, I believe so yeah,that could be wrong, but as
always always fast think at Wendy CityHeat and Shakes the Clown, which we
got to give a plug to likeit's both I think probably to One of
our favorite movies ever is Wendy CityHeat by Bob Cackle. That's so good.

(27:55):
I've never seen it. I shouldcheck it out. Oh so good.
Oh it's free on YouTube. That'swhere Bobcat told me to watch it.
Yeah. The premise of of course, is there's a guy that's obnoxious,
comedian Perry something, I forget hisname, and they everybody around him
plays a joke on him because he'sso obnoxious. Apparently he's sealing other comedians

(28:17):
work and like telling their jokes onstage. That's what I gather, at
least I've told something like that.He's like a thorn in the side of
a lot of comedians out there,because you know, he's just kind of
a pain the ass in some ways. But so everybody decides to do a
joke on him, and for everybodylike Jimmy Kimmel, I think, is
one of the executive producers of this, So there's some money behind it,
and they all pretend that he getsHe goes on an addition on audition to

(28:41):
be like an action star, likea Swartzenegger sort of sized action star in
this in this movie or whatever,and the whole thing is a gag on
him. And they filmed this thisblockbuster action movie in two weeks, and
he goes to the premiere and it'sjust hilarious. The whole thing is just
a joke on this guy. Andapparently people in his life are actually pretending

(29:03):
to assume other ultra IDs ultra identitiesand just interact with them regularly then as
characters. I don't know, it'skind of a weird thing. But Bobcat
told me that he loves the movie, but it was the one movie he
wouldn't let his girlfriend watch because becausehe didn't want her to think that he's
an asshole. Yeah, because it'sup for you go. Well, I

(29:25):
got super deep into it, LikeI looked up all these YouTube clips from
way back in the day, likeas the groundwork of the Giant prank that
the movie is like watching all thegroundwork and the follow up stuff with the
guy, and it's just it's somany layers. It's like layers and layers
like Russian nesting dolls. You know, you keep like no way and then
you dig a little deeper. There'sa whole another little gem in there.

(29:47):
It's like it's I went down therabbit hole in that one that was.
It's so brilliant. Yeah, fantasticmovie, Win d City Heat. You
can watch it for free on YouTube. That's where Bobcat told me to watch
it, so I don't feel toobad, but recommending people watch it there.
So stay tuned for more Bigfoot andBeyond with Cliff and Bogo. We'll

(30:07):
be right back after these messages.What about those toes spacers, Cliff,
if you try on that, that'sone one of the articles that can cross
my desk that I thought was kindof interesting. There's a I guess a
fitness fat or a wellness tool thatis kind of popping out right now,

(30:30):
and it is basically spacers for yourtoes to spread them out so you'll have
a much wider to splay than younormally would. Of Course, as you've
probably heard people talk about, becausemost of our listeners are interested in the
Bigfoot thing, human feet are kindof scrunched in the shoes all the time.
In fact, if you take offyour shoes or next time you do,

(30:52):
take off your shoes and you lookat your fifth digit, your tiny
toe, your little tiny toe,it is curled underneath the other one to
it, And that's from wearing shoesfor the most part. And you know,
shoving you your five digits into apair of shoes is good because we
can step on rocks without you know, or legos for that matter, without
debilitating ourselves. But at the sametime, our feet were made in such

(31:17):
a way for a reason, youknow, evolution did its thing, and
our feet that were made for navigatingthe landscape in various ways, including doing
a little bit of gripping like insasquatch FETs, you know sasquatch feet.
The toes splay widely in grip theground in various ways where running up and
down hills or then there's toest sliding. It acts as some sort of a
break in some in some ways.Well, now you can get these things,

(31:38):
these little spacers to shove in betweenyour toes, just spread them out
a bit. Basically that gives yousome sort of toes splay, and apparently
that's good for you. That's goodfor you. In some sort of ways,
because you know, shoving your feetin the shoes can cause a lot
of strange foot anomalies like foot painin various ways. So these foot spacers,

(32:00):
the whiter toast play give the peoplelike a better sense of balance.
They alleviate a lot of the footpain that some people they don't. They
won't cure the pain, you know, they won't do anything about bunions or
something like that. But for somepeople who are maybe looking at surgery or
something, these might actually be helpful. And they cost about thirty bucks or
less. I'm not endorsing them.I never tried them or anything like that,

(32:22):
But I don't know, Bobs,what do you think? Is this
something for you? Yeah? ActuallyI'm going to try it because my feet
are thrashed. Yeah. It remindsme of remember when when we first started
doing the show. I think itwas like season one, that there's that
big fat about wearing those like they'realmost like wet suit booties with individual toes.

(32:44):
Oh yeah, the vibrum Vibrum shoesis what those are called. Yeah,
they and never Money make her wearthem all the time. He's like,
oh, it's so great for yourback. It came out like a
year later. It tears that itwas totally the opposite. It was bad
for you, like, but everyonewas doing that trend for a while.
Yeah, money Maker brought a pairof those on the road, so I
had him. I had him walkthrough the mud, and I documented his

(33:04):
footprints so I can try to teachme a little bit about the difference between
bibrooms and sasquatch feet. Should Ihave run across something, I'm not ju
I'm not so sure about that wasthere for I never forget him running down
the We were late for a planeand he was running through the terminal and
it was just going slap. Everyone'slooking at it because his feet was like
the loudest thing in the whole busyairport was mondy to his feet slapping in

(33:25):
those five toed shoe things. Ithought you were going to tell this story
about when we went and got fittedfor some clothes or something for finding Bigfoot,
and you found out that your shoesize was actually one larger than what
you've been buying for the last fifteenyears, dude, longer than fifteen Yeah,
you were wearing the wrong size shoe. You're into your entire life and

(33:46):
wondering why your feet hurt. Yeah, so I was wear flip flops.
You're really something bothes. I'll neverforget that feeling, like I was like,
because I remember, like I lookedat the girl as with and she
said, you were just totally shocked. Your eyes were bated. He said,
now I know why people wear shoes. I got a pair of fourteens.

(34:08):
It's pretty great because like, howcan people wear these things? They
suck, They just crap their feet. And anyways, now you know,
well, apparently I look forward toyou getting some of these because you do
have brother large feet. You know, they're pretty wide, they're they're not
a real high arch or anything.Yeah. And so the people who are
buying these toes spacers say that itimproves their toet strength. And most people

(34:30):
don't think about their toe strength obviously, because we're buried in shoes and we
live a kind of quote unquote modernlife. But man, your toes are
there for a reason. Your toesare appendages, you know, that you
use for various things, and we'vekind of shut all that down, we've
neglected that part of us. Insome ways, I think it's important personally

(34:51):
to go barefoot as much as youcan, and at least in the summertime.
You know, I think there's somethingabout putting your feet in contact with
the ground that to me at leastjust feels good, feels right. They've
proved it scientifically. Do you knowanything about the studies or anything, just
something about, uh, your feetcan absorb it, like the like trace
minerals part of it, just thecontact with the grass and all the textures

(35:14):
and just not having like it's thatwe evolved the walk on them without shod
feet. So it makes sense.Oh, it totally makes sense. You
know, one of the people theyinterviewed for this article is a professional surfer
and back in your surfingties. Canyou imagine what better grip and better toes
splay and better balance and stronger toeswould effect that would have on your surfing?

(35:36):
Do you do? I remember surfingthis one really long point break like
it went forever. Let's never forgethow bad my toes ache, like all
those little ligaments and tendons, becauseyou see, you're not surfing for like
two minutes straight, you know,like where you're pumping your because when you're
pumping on the board, you're it'sall toes pretty much, you know,
in your arch, but your toesmainly is just your grip and like you

(36:00):
know, you're you know, justscratching to hold out your toes and and
yeah, I was sure like mycat muscles and everything were like totally like
worked out. I was like,holy, I was shocked by that.
Yeah, I'm not a bit surprised. You know. One of the the
take homes for takeaways, I guessfor me with studying Sasquatch feed is their

(36:21):
to display and how they use theirtoes in various ways. Because it's true.
I remember seeing a documentary years agoand Meldrum was on the documentary,
and of course I almost everything Iknow about feet came from doctor Meldrum,
you know, and and just lookingat hearing what he said, then looking
at the casts and you know,and trying to and look and trying to
decipher and like really put that intopractice when I'm looking at actual evidence,

(36:43):
you know, So I give creditwhere credit is due. Jeff is you
know, he calls me his padawan, and I think that's totally fine,
totally is totally fine with me becausemost of everything I know about Sasquatch feet
I learned from him. But oneof the things I remember years ago,
I was watching a documentary and hewas commenting on on sasquatch feet and he
calmned that their toes are almost everybit as long as our fingers are,

(37:05):
and therefore should have about the samelevel of apprehension as well, you know,
prehensilism, I guess if that's theright word, And that's a big
takeaway. Imagine like walking on yourhands, and what use your fingers would
be, you know what I mean, Like they would have a lot of
use in the ground if your toeswere that long. And that's the way
sasquatch feed are, so their toesmust be an integral part of their locomotion

(37:29):
on some way, even though theydon't push off with the toes when they're
striding around like humans do. Wepush off with the toes, and then
the front part of the ball,which like what is called the heads of
the metatarsals, they push off withthe entire first half of the foot,
like mostly to the base of themetatarsals. Then entire forefoot. They're pushing
off with that, but still dayto day, day and day out,

(37:52):
especially in the terrain they live intheir toes must have a lot of grabbing
and gripping and stabilizing factors involved inthem, just like purpose their toes.
He probably play a huge part inthem getting around, and we've lost that.
We've lost that. Not that ourtoes are as cool and long as
they are theirs are, But howwould that be man? Just like a

(38:13):
human foot with toes as long asfingers. That'd be pretty scary looking,
be pretty cool, right But anyway, Yeah, when I think about that,
I look, when I saw this, that's the first thing that came
to my mind. It's like,well, sasquatches use their toes all over
the place for all sorts of things. How cool would it be if we
could regain that somehow? Now,of course, these these little jobbers that
you put on your in between yourtoes, they're not going to do that

(38:34):
right away, and it's going totake a long long time if they work
at all. I don't know ifthey work. I haven't tried them.
But still I thought it was acool article that maybe I could bring to
somebody's attention. So there you go. Well, there's a couple more articles
here, and one I definitely wantto get to is this one. This
version here this particular, because thisis all over the news, all over
the news, right at least allover night my news feed, you know,

(38:58):
because people know the algorithm knows whatI like. This one is from
science dot org. Basically, youmay remember Bobo last year year before.
I think it was two years ago. In July. Two new species of
humans were described in journals the samemonth. One of them was called Homo
long Guy, and the other onewas found in Israel. But I don't

(39:21):
remember what the name of it wasbecause it didn't have the sexy name that
Homo long Guy has, because Homolong Guy was immediately dubbed dragon man,
and that's a pretty sexy name fora hominy scored totally. But the downside
of that is that the other species, the one that was discovered in Israel,
and I can't remember the name ofthat one kind of lost in the

(39:43):
shovel because it didn't have such acool name. But anyway, we're not
talking about that other one. We'retalking about dragon Man here. We're talking
about Homo long Guy. Or maybeit's long Jive, but I bet it's
long Guy. I don't really know. I think it's long e like I
think the I in that sort ofLatin phraseology is an e sound. I
could be wrong, though, thatmakes sense because in Spanish AE, you
know, and Spanish is a Latinderived language. That does make it's a

(40:05):
long gi. I like it.I'll go with that. Yeah. So
anyway, Homo loongi was discovered abouta year or two ago in the Middle
East, I believe, or no, it's in China, my mistake,
China, and oh new species.That's cool, that's cool, and everybody
was, you know, all theTwitter about it, including myself. I
was pretty stoked on it, becauseyou know, I do like paleoanthropology.

(40:25):
But but new evidence apparently has broughtto light that these are almost certainly an
already known species that we had nocraniums for now. The Homo lungi fossil
was a cranium, and it's apretty big one. It's pretty cool,
very heavy in a lot of ways. It had very neanderthal esque in some

(40:47):
ways. It had a brow ridgethat was pretty prominent. Apparently, apparently
the new evidence has tied Homolonghi tothe elusive Homo Denis or Denis Evans.
I'm not sure I would say thatone either, because I've only read it.
That's the problem with being well readis sometimes I don't know how to
read things, but I don't knowhow to say them. But anyway,

(41:09):
yeah, that now, of course, homodenis ovan, they were a a
species discovered I don't even know howlong ago went, five ten years ago
or something, and they were discoveredthrough DNA. They in a cave they
found a phalangy a fingerbone, andthey thought that that fingerbone was a Neanderthal,

(41:31):
but upon DNA testing, they foundout it was not. It was
a new species of hominin. Andso that's how Homo denisovan came to our
attention. And since then they've gottenanother bone somewhere. They went back in
the museum archives and they discovered thatthey've been sitting on a jawbone of a

(41:51):
homodenisovan since I think the eighties.They just didn't recognize it as such.
They thought it was they attributed itto another species. But you know,
a couple of tiny little bones andDNA. I think they also got e
DNA out of the ground of acave, if I remember correctly, and
that's an if, but I'm prettysure we got homodenusovan DNA from E DNA,

(42:15):
and so that's pretty cool too.But this new paper is mind blowing
because it has now tied a craniuma skull to that species. And I
think that is just fantastic because Homodenasovans, much like Neanderthals, were around
very very recently, very recently,and also humans apparently in are bred with

(42:37):
them. We all have heard abouthow Neanderthals have inner bred with Homo sapiens.
I know that when I got myparents' DNA tests done for their birthday
for Christmas. Rather, I gotboth of them done for Christmas about ten
years ago or so, and mydad showed up as one point seven percent.
Of course, I know that thesetwenty three and me things are rather

(42:58):
inaccurate in some ways. You know, I don't think it would hold.
You know, it's not nothing youwould take to a PhD in biology and
you know, go to Courtover orsomething like that. But it's you know,
my dad had to slightly higher thannormal content of the andandertall, which
I'm always thrilled to hear. Buthomodenisovans also enter bread apparently that they live
in the Tibetan Plateau and amongst otherplaces in Asia, and the people of

(43:22):
Tibet today apparently have a rather largepercentage comparably speaking of Homodenosovan DNA in them,
which is part of the reason theyare so successful at high altitudes.
Like a larger lung capacity is oneof the benefits, I guess have happened
a little bit of Denisavan India.Yeah, one of you, because they

(43:44):
they mentioned like it seemed like thatthey found like the spread of the species
as far as like the Denisovans,like with the improved lung capacity. There's
that tribe down in the Philippines,the water people whatever, like they live
on the water on houseboats permanently,and they dive. And these guys can

(44:05):
dive like they've clocked it up tothirteen minutes. They can hold their breath.
I'm sure there's some kind of linkthere. Well, it's going to
be interesting to see if they canactually conclusively tie this that. There's a
little bit of obvious science, right, So science is an ever ever more
accurate thing, and you know,you got to start out some pretty fuzzy
guesses before you narrow down what's actuallygoing on. But these might that Homolongi

(44:29):
might actually be a Denisovin, andI think that's kind of cool. I
don't think it's set in stone yet, but that's definitely something I'm going to
be watching because as bigfoot researchers,I think all of this should be probably
interested in human evolution to some degree, and the idea that a lot of
these human species, those that shareour same genus, the homo group,

(44:53):
hominids or hominid hominid day or whateverit's called. I'm sure the PhDs that
are listening to as you're going,Oh, Cliff, Cliff, you gotta
take a Latin class, but I'msorry, I'm sorry, doctors. But
anyway, these recent members of ourfamily, the hominins, you know,
the recent hominins, are of greatinterest up to us because it's very likely

(45:16):
that some of them are still persistingsomewhere in the world. You know,
I don't think sasquatches are Denisovans orNeanderthals or anything like that. I think
that there's something else. But whatabout those amistes, you know, what
about omistes or some of the othermore far flung things, say in Western
Asia or Eastern Europe, I thinkthat those have a real possibility to be
some sort of relictive species of Neanderthalor Denisovan or god knows what. God

(45:40):
knows what. There's our family treekeeps branching out further and further and further.
Every year, it seems there's anotherdiscovery in palaeoanthropology that shakes the shakes,
the textbooks loose, you know.So an exciting time to be into
this sort of thing. Certainly itis stay tuned for more Bigfoot and beyond
with Cliff and Bobo. We'll beright back after these messages. But you

(46:08):
know, I think we have onemore, one more article we can delve
into before we go to our membersection, chem trails. Chem trails an
attack of the vapors exactly. Now, Bobo, you know me, and
I think our listeners know me,and I'm not much one for conspiracy theories,
and the chem trail one is tome amongst the more ridiculous ones.

(46:32):
Well it's not. It's not totallyridiculous. There there's I mean, obviously,
yeah, there's the usual, Imean, you know, the water
evaporation and all that, But therethere was they admitted that they were doing
cloud seating experiments NASA in conjection withthe Air Force that they were they were
doing that. It's like some nickelbrumiter. I can't remember what it was,

(46:55):
but it was it was supposedly likea reflective you know, reflective quality
they were doing testing. But yeah, all the all the commercial airliners know,
they're not all strapped with those tanksspraying cam trails. Yeah, I've
seen those ones that people claim arethe like the camtrail ones that like don't
break up. I've seen this.I've seen actually above Oregon like Central organ

(47:17):
I've seen them there and also hereover Humble a couple of times, and
like they look kind of different.But I don't know, I mean,
I'm not. I just don't seeit. Like where were these planes if
they're not, If they're not attachedto commercial airliners, and I've flown enough
to know that they're not, they'renot. They're not seeing those things attached
to planes. And I have seenthe photos of them attached to like unmarked

(47:37):
planes like government or whatever, youknow, some whether it's Noah doing because
I heard a lot of it wasweather research and O, and then I
heard another one of it was theywere doing in experiments, and I heard
this from pretty well placed source thatit was a radar kind of radar.
It could bounce radar over the horizons, like if you had they they'd spread

(47:59):
this spray in the atmosphere than theycould and it was for so x amount
of time. They could very accuratelyhave a much further ranging radar for ship
ships. Well, Luckily, whetherwhatever the truth is behind KEM trails,
and I think we you know,I know how I feel. But anyway,
but luckily we have the Tennis Wehave Tennessee helping us out here because

(48:22):
the I guess the legislator, theTennessee lawmakers have just recently passed a bill
banning the release of airborne chemicals thatcritics say is inspired by KEM trail conspiracy
theories. We need more scientists inposition making laws in my opinion. But
anyway, yeah, so it isnow illegal. This law broadly prohibits a

(48:46):
quote unquote affecting temperature, weather,or the intensity of sunlight. It is
signed by the governor. It isa done deal and is going to effect
on July first. So if you'reafraid of KEM trails, Tennessee seems like
a really safe place for you becauseit's now illegal to do that kind of
stuff there, So head on overthere. Well anyway, So yeah,
so Tennessee is now a safe placeif you're concerned about about KEM trails.

(49:12):
It's a lovely place. I've beento Tennessee lots of times. I like
it there actually the best. Yeah. Yeah, but check this out.
There's a second part to this law. And I'm looking at the BBC by
the way, right now. Thelegislation sponsor got a Monty Fritz. You
know that name, prut that isnot familiar, Okay, Well, he
called. He says that this lawis a very common sense thing to do,
and that it goes on. Itsays, although several lawmakers mentioned KIM

(49:36):
trails while the bill was being discussedduring Friday's sessions, mister Fritz focused on
cloud seating, which is, youknow, something that actually did happen they
attempted to do. Right, everythingthat goes up must come down. In
those chemicals that we are knowingly andwillingly injecting into the atmosphere simply to control
the weather or the climate are affectingour health. Okay, fair enough,
fair enough, that would make sense. Right, But now check this out

(49:59):
in a joking response, John rayClemens, a Democrat from Nashville, do
you know that name, Matt prutI do not. I treat attention the
same way I treat my nutrition,and I try to only use my available
you know, calories and my budgetfor healthy things, and same with my
attention. And most politics I don'tthink fall into that category for me,

(50:20):
So I don't pay attention. Well, anyway, this John ray Clemens guy,
he introduced an amendment that would protectsasquatches and yeties. This amendment would
make sure that we are protecting yettiesor sasquatch or bigfoot from whatever this conspiracy
is that we're passing in the legislation, he said during the debate. So,
yeah, unbelievable. The sasquatches,which are real, are associated with

(50:43):
chm trails, which in my opinionare not. Yeah, and then and
they go on to water this andthat. So cam trails are real,
Cliff, It's just that they're not. All the contrails are not chim trails.
Yeah. Well, water's a chemical. I guess that's true. It
was actually not really a chemical,I mean human and human induced. Well
said Well said, well, anyway, that's the last of the articles.

(51:06):
That's the last articles. Should wego on to the member section because we
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be. We're gonna be talking about, you know, everybody knows about the
Four Horsemen of Sasquatchry. Everybody knows, right, basically, the four old

(52:09):
men that kind of ran the wholething for a long time. They were
the head figures and there they've beennicknamed the Four Horsemen of Sasquatchry, presumably
named after what is it, thefour Horsemen of the Apocalypse for some reason,
the four Horsemen of Notre Dame.Oh I thought it was the Apocalypse
anyway. So we're gonna talk aboutsome of the people that we think might

(52:30):
be worthy of that same title,People that we personally admire, people that
that we think that great work,that probably deserve their face on the Mount
Rushmore a Bigfoot. But Bobo,we're done. Why don't you take us
out of here? Watch this allright? Folks, thanks for joining us
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(52:50):
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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Ep. 259 - Maximum Clobosity!