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April 1, 2025 56 mins

What happens when you stop doing what you should in love and start exploring what actually works for you? In this week’s episode, I’m joined by Jeff Rothlein for a candid, honest, and thought-provoking conversation about relationships that don’t follow the traditional script.

We dive into what it really means to be in an ethically non-monogamous dynamic - though it’s not quite what you might think. Jeff shares how he unexpectedly found himself exploring this lifestyle, what surprised him most about it, and why communication and transparency are everything. We cover everything from primary vs. secondary partners, the difference between ENM and simply dating casually, emotional expectations, friends-with-benefits, and whether it's possible - or even desirable - to "go back" to monogamy.

Plus, we talk invisible string theory, course-correcting from past relationships, and why letting go of the word “should” might be the biggest relationship hack of all.

If you've ever questioned traditional relationship norms (or are simply curious about the topic), this one’s for you.

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