June 18, 2025 • 41 mins
What does it really mean to be “vain”? In this week’s refreshingly candid episode of Plastic Surgery Uncensored, Dr. Rady Rahban sits down with his vibrant and fearless patient Amy—just three and a half weeks post-op—to unpack the emotional, physical, and deeply personal journey behind her breast augmentation at 39. From the decision to have surgery after three kids to the complexities of body image, intimacy, and self-worth, Amy opens up about why embracing her vanity isn’t shallow—it’s empowering. Together, she and Dr. Rahban dive into the real conversations that often go unspoken:
✨ “It’s not about looking perfect. It’s about feeling powerful in your own skin.”
🎧 Listen, laugh, and learn—then share with the women in your life who could use a little reminder that self-care is not self-indulgent.
- Why "feeling sexy again" isn’t selfish
- How body confidence can impact relationships
- What most women don’t know about sizing, nipple changes, and post-op care
- And why women shouldn’t wait to “fall apart” before doing something for themselves
✨ “It’s not about looking perfect. It’s about feeling powerful in your own skin.”
🎧 Listen, laugh, and learn—then share with the women in your life who could use a little reminder that self-care is not self-indulgent.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to another episode of Plastic Surgery and Censored. I'm
your host, Doctor Roddy Raban, and we have a very
fun episode ahead of us because my guest is fun.
My guess is a fantastic, sweet patient of ours. That
is how far out are you from surgery?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Three and a half weeks?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I love it. Three and a half weeks out from surgery.
You wouldn't know it because she looks just so spectacularly natural.
And we're going to talk about a subject that we've
talked about before, but yeah, we're going to talk about
it from a different side of the coin. We're going
to talk about her journey. Amy's Now how old are you?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Amy?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Thirty nine? So there's a few things I'm going to unpack.
Amy had a breast augmentation, and we're allowed to say that, yes, yeah,
oh right, So Amy had a breas augmentation at thirty nine.
So I think it's really important for us to talk
about that because people always talk, am I too old
to have something like that done? No. As a matter
of fact, half the people who have breast surgery done
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do it before having kids, and half do it after
having kids. And you have three beautiful children, and an
awesome husband. And you guys were one of my favorite
couples in recent times that I met because you were easy, smooth,
well connected. You guys knew what you wanted. You came in,
you asked the right questions. We had a beautiful bond.
(01:31):
You executed your surgery, you didn't double step. We'd boom
bam boom, and here we are. It's as if it
was just like it was like almost just going to
get a haircut or going to get your teeth cleaned.
That's how smooth everything went. And that has predominantly due
to you. Because we have a system in place, and
if the patients are easy, the system will carry you through.
(01:54):
The patients are difficult and they pull the emergency brake
and through a wrench in it, then they make the
process more challenge for themselves. Nevertheless, we're going to talk
about breast augmentation, but we're gonna envelop it in the
concept of vanity because you said it, which was very
beautiful and I always have to tiptoe around it, which
is the whole idea of vanity. And the minute you
say vanity. Generally, if you say vanity to the regular person,
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they immediately connotate it with a negative flavor, Like if
I say prostitute, you're like, oh, prostitute, Oh you know, heroine.
So everything has an emotion. And when you say vanity,
people are like, oh, that person's vain, as if it's
some negative thing. But that's not true. Vanity just means
you give a shit about the way you look. We
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just gave it as negative feel because we kind of
just that's what happened over the time. I am vain
and that I really care about the way that I
look and present myself. My wife is vain, My mother
is vain. My mom at eighty five, at eighty five
wears heels, makeup, dolled up, hair done, hair spray, the
(03:00):
whole lipstick. She was a cosmetologist, beautician. And my sister
is absolutely not vain.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I mean, I think my grandma's vain. She was Miss
Black Hills as a Native American, and that for me,
I just was like, she's so beautiful and naturally beautiful,
and I thankfully I have high cheekbones, but I do
want to be naturally pretty, and it's for me.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I've always looked.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
In the mirror and I'm like, I like myself and
if I like myself, I feel like I'm a nicer person.
I get more done if i'm because I sometimes work
from home. I'm a TV producer and sometimes I work
from home. And if I like don't get dressed in
the morning, I am slumpy.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I don't get much done.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
But if I go put on some jeans and a
little bit of makeup, and like I don't need much,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
But after having three kids, I was like, this is
not my body anymore. Like I used to be hot
and young, and like, sure, I don't feel like that anymore.
And I want to look at myself. And my husband's
a gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
He is I can attest you if I were gay. Yeah,
he's a good looking guy. Right, it's a hunk.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
And he looks good. But he didn't have to give
birth to kids. He didn't have to do any of that.
And so for me, I I just recently my youngest
is a year and I'm like Nick, like this is
just doesn't make me feel sexy, you know, And he's like, well,
look do.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Something about it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Call one of your friends that have gotten their boobs dead.
And so that's what I did. I was like, who
has really good boobs that I know I got of it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And my friend said, yes, who went to you?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And she's saying, like, I've done all the research, I've
gone to all the consultations in all of LA.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
This is your guy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah she did, she is. She is in your friend
group that I am in my friend group. Hey, I
want a TV. What do you recommend? Okay, don't waste time,
go get this one because someone's done the homework.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And it's funny because my other good friend who's beautiful
and her boobs look great, but years ago she was like,
when you get them.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Done, go to Garth. And I was, and I'm not saying,
don't go to Garth because I've sent of course, every
like my hair my other friend, like so many people
I've sent to Garth before. I got my boots done.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And so when I told my hairdresser I got my
boobs done, she's like, you didn't go to Garth.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's like, wait, you sent me there and then you
went there. I know, I mean new news, new information
came up.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
But I did one consultation and I was like, wait,
I think Ashley's right, she has done all the research.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I went to you.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's like I want to go to an expert that
answers everything for me. And I really had like two
questions after your fifteen minute spiel because I was like, wait, okay,
those were all the things, and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
You guys were an easy patient population to deal with.
We have sort of in every profession. You have your
TV producer, you know, when you're like, oh, what a
great production team. Everyone's doing their jobs, everyone listens, they
get along, this is going to be an amazing show.
And then you have people like she's a bitch, this
one's a prima donna, this guy's an idiot, and this
is going to be painful, and at the end of
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the day, you still get it done. The show may
still be an Emmy winning, you know, might be amazing,
but at the same time, it's just painful. So for me,
when I meet patients, especially when it's for rest augmentation,
I think we number one. In general, all consultation processes
need to be thorough. The assumption I make when I
meet people is they know nothing, and what they know
they may know wrong. And rather than you and me
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have a huge banter, Hey, what questions can I answer
for you? So normally how a console goes is you
come in, You're like, hey, I'm thinking having a breast dog.
Immediately is followed by I just want to look natural. Listen,
I'm you know, I'm you know. I'm in the Malibu
or Palisades there or Ballera. What I refer to you
guys as a Malibu mom's group, which is all very
natural athletic, but still want to lists sexy, want to
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go coach little league at the same time, want to
go out at night, et cetera. I want to look natural,
and yeah, that's what I want to do. And then
add I'll say a few things, You'll ask me a
few questions. I'll say the few things, you'll ask me
some questions, and next thing you know, twenty minutes went
by and we really didn't cover much. I don't do
it that way. I don't do it that way because
I know what you need to know. You don't know
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what you don't know, and the best way for us
to get you the information because my goal is for
you to be knowledgeable. If you come with me, great,
If you go somewhere else, great. At least I know
that you came to a consult and you got the
information needed. So I tell everybody, don't speak. Don't speak
until I'm done, and then I'm going to pop up
pop pop pop pop pop pop up, examine da da
da da da da data. Do you have any questions?
(07:22):
And what you'll notice is, holy shit. I had ten questions.
They were answered, and there's thirty things I didn't know
and those were told to me. And I found that
to be the way I would want to be informed
about whatever it is that I'm having done. So I'm
I'm grateful and I'm glad that it was. It worked
for you and it was information you needed.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It reminded me of what I do in my TV
shows because I work with the talent. When they come
on set for the very first time they've never been
on TV. I have to explain to them, like it's
not always glamorous, Like you're gonna be sitting and waiting
around for a long time. I don't want to hear
you bitching when you get out there. Like there's all
these things that I have to explain to them. Sure
we do it, because once we're out there, now you
have all of the negative parts in your head because
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it's not going to.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Be glamorous all the time.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Right being on TV, and so I'm like, are you
still willing to do this? If you're still willing to
do this, then let's go and have a great time
out there. And you'll ask any of the people I
worked with, they're like, thank you for warning me about
sitting for an hour's you know, because of the cameras
weren't ready or whatever. And I appreciated your combo because
it reminded me of like, hey, Amy, I don't want
you coming back to me and saying these are too
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small or these are too big. And I appreciated that
because you know, it was a team effort that we
had and getting the perfect size for me. And I
liked how you were like, I don't you can't give
me like the size that you want.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
We have to go off pictures.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And I thought that was really helpful. So that's interesting
you should say so that a couple of things. Number
one the way too fore go. Actually, I tell you
something I learned when I was a resident. I don't
remember a lot from residency because I don't know how
much of it was helpful, But one guy said to me,
and I still hang out with him. He's the guy
that I think influenced me the most. He said, everything
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you tell the patient before they consider you a genius.
Everything you tell this, you tell the same thing that
the patient afterwards and its excuses. So if I tell
you before surgery ABC and it happens, you go, oh,
he told me that. If I had nothing to do
with it, and after it happens and I tell you, yeah,
but these things could happen, you'd be like, wait, these
(09:25):
that's an excuse. Same shit happens. So for the last
twenty years, and by my personality, I'm going to frontload everything.
These are all the greats, these are all the uglies.
This could go wrong, this, that's the other. And then
you are super informed and God forbid, something isn't exactly
what you anticipated. You and I are both on the
same page. You're like, yep, let's take care of it now.
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The thing you hit on, which is by far the
biggest part of breast augmentation, is sizing, right. The biggest
issue with a breast enhancement is how big. Oh, I
want to be natural? There is no natural size like
you and your best friend could literally have the same
two implants and she looks like a porn star and
you look like you had breast offs. Yeah, so oh
(10:09):
I want the same size as my friend. Well what
does that even mean? You guys don't even wear the
same shoes. No, that's not how this works. So traditionally,
sizing is a big problem. And the way doctors usually
do it is they do something called volume matrix displacement.
What that means is that we give you a bra
and you put in implants, or you put in rice,
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or we take a photo of you and you put
it in a digital machine that then puts digital implants
in and rotates you around. But they're all the same concept,
which is you, amy are going to pick the size
you want and usually patients are going to be like,
I don't know too eighty five and we're like great,
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great selection, and then we ordered it two eighty five
and that's what you get. And when you're pissed because
they look huge or they're not big enough, we blame
you because hey, heymy remember you and your husband were
there and then you guys went through this chart and
and the nurse and.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You you can't, I know, you're like, what, we're not
going back?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Okay. The next thing is the next thing is for
you to tell me no, no, no, I just want
to be a C. It's really simple. Just don't fuck
this up, doctor BoNT. Just give me a C. And
I'm like, okay, which C? You and I could go
to a bral store and I'll pick up four different
c's Victoria's Secret thirty two C, Lapeerla thirty two C,
Bloomingdale thirty two SE and you will literally not fit
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in half of them. So we now have established C
is meaningless because it's not like five foot ten, one
hundred and eighty pounds. It's a random ass size that
you made by a manufacturer. Everyone knows that Victoria's Secret
sizing is small. Everyone knows that right, just like you
know certain European sizes. You don't fit in the shoe
even though your size forty and that brand it runs small.
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What do you mean it runs small? Is it the
forty or not? So the way that I have gotten
around that and the way that I do it and
it puts all the pressure on me is I say, listen,
don't worry about anything. Just tell me what color blue
you like? I like this shade, Doctor Rabon, perfect you
like this blue?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I like this blue? Can you show me one shade
that's a little too dark for you, Yeah, that this
shade's a little too dark. And one that's a little
too light. Yeah, I think that's too light. Okay, go
to sleep. I'll worry about the rest. So what that
means is I tell you to show me what you like. Yeah,
don't worry about how tall she is, and tell me
what you think's a little bit big for you and
what you think is a little bit small, And go
to sleep, and I'll worry about the rest. And I
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will use scisors and sit you up and sit you
down and jump through hoops and if and when you
wake up you're like, what the hell is this, I'll
take the heat for it.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's crazy to think that you guys are in that
room and I'm out there like sleeping, and I'm just
like this.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You're not like this, because you're more like You're not
like a crocarecrow. You're more like Christ. We have your
arms out like this.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It's just funny to think about.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
But also what I really appreciated about our consultation was
you said I had and I have to like whisper.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
It makes me feel awkward saying it, but protruding nipples. Yes,
And I was like, oh my god, and I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
You were like, I have to tell everybody because you're
the first girl, you like, my.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
First breast augmentation. I learned my lesson, which is interesting.
Did we do anything your nipples are actually shape them down? Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Great, we don't want protruding niles.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Okay, so great point. Oh I didn't even know that.
So what happens is it's actually the right term is prominent.
Oh but I'm like, so prominent nipples is nothing more
than saying your nipples are large, right, and so just
like your areola, just like your nose, just like your
ear lobe, just like your labia. We have parts and
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those parts are small and their medium and regular and
and big. It's like, holy shit, look at her ear lobes. Right,
So nipples can be prominent in that they project a lot.
They can be wide, and they can be tall. Anyone
who has it knows what I'm talking about, because they
know that every time they wear a bathing suit, which
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is a very thin piece of material, they need to
get something with padding because otherwise they're on all the
time and it's uncomfortable or it's a little maybe not
the look they like, or they can't wear a brawless
outfit without a T shirt or a T shirt because
it's too prominent compared to say, someone who has a
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very small, soft nipple barely even projects. Okay, And so
when you get a when you breastfeed and you get
hormonal changes in your breast getting gorge and then get
smaller and gorge and get smaller, the nipples also lengthen,
just like when you get birth. Vaginally, your LaBier didn't
look that way when they were eighteen, so it's perfectly fine,
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it's normal. But you go and get a breast dog
and all of a sudden you're like, whoa, my nipples
are an alert. So I learned my lesson this way.
So I did my first I remember who was one
of my best friends, referred her friend to me, and
it's my first breast dog. And I'm telling you, I'm
shitten bricks right, because at the end of the day,
no matter how many times you do something in a simulator,
it ain't a simulator. And so I'm out, I'm fortunified.
(15:01):
I'm the man I trained in years, but here I
am doing my first breast dog. Sweetest lady for kids.
She actually reminds me a lot of you. She was
very sweet and dynamic and talkative, so she made me
feel comfortable. I was like, you're gonna be okay. I
was like, I was like, okay, all right, cool. I
did her breast dog, see her and follow up everything
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I'm just waiting for. And she looks in the mirror.
She's like, I love them. They're great. She's so animated.
And then she's like I remember, she's like, these goddamn
nipples are so big, you know, because now she had
a breast dog, and her nipples went from being deflated
and down and back where she didn't care anymore to
like out there and she's like, god, they're so big.
Oh my god, I'm gonna I was, and I remember
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just sitting there and going, Okay, no worries, no worries.
We can fix that for you. We do this thing.
It's called a nipple reduction, and I do this that
the other end, and she looked at me. She's like,
you're telling that to me now because I said I
could do it under local, because I can't do it
under local, and she's like local, how's just under an anesthesia?
Why the hell didn't you tell me? I was like,
well I did. You didn't bring it up. She's like,
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I didn't bring it up because I didn't know it
was in a thing. And I'm historically very sensitive of
not mentioning shit to you. I'm not that guy. You're
gonna come in I'm gonna break you down. You're not
gonna come in and be like, hey, I know you're
hearing me for this. What what's this flappy skin on
your belly?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
We need to talk about that, because.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Well we'll get there. Hold on, wait, you're going to
talk about the flabby belt. But what I'm saying is
I don't want to make up shit that bothers you
and make you feel insecure and then up sell you
to Like while I was there, he said, no, you're
so good. I don't like that. That's fucked up. That's
you're there, You're vulnerable, you're naked, and I'm not like, yeah,
your brush.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I know you will tell you what I think after
you finished this story, because I was gonna.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So so then what happened was I was like, I'm
so sorry. She's like, you gotta do me a favor.
Lesson learned. You're a young guy. Please. Every single time
you see a woman with a prominent nipple and there
for a breast dog, you must tell her. I swear
to God on my own children. I have never not
mentioned it again. And interesting enough, she was absolutely right.
I would say ninety nine percent of patients are like, what,
(17:10):
you can make my nipple smaller? And then the next
question is am I gonna lose sensation? No I needed
for orgasm? Are you sure it's no problem? Can I
BREASTFEEDD No problem? The technique that I use is one
that preserves everything. So it's just about making your nipple smaller,
making them more proportional, wearing a bathing suit without anything
needing cover. And she taught me that lesson. So anyways,
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so we got so that made a difference. I did it.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I was like, please help me, but don't because I
don't want to come back. You're right, like and have
to do with something else.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
But do you think it made a difference.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's a huge difference.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
They're beautiful, like I mean we have it's three weeks
in so we haven't been able to play with them
or do anything yet, but visually they look great. And
I'm still wearing the bra that I have to wear
yea because you're very adamant about the aftercare and I'm listening.
So one day, when I'm wearing hot tops and cute outfits,
I will be so thankful that.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't have to wear always wear three weeks away.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Okay, good, it's not like in the twenty twenty. It's
in three weeks, I know.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But what I what I really like about you.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
It reminds me my husband owns an automotive shop and
he is like, he's not the guy when you come
into that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
He's like, this is I do not want to be
the guy that's like, you.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Need briefs, you need, you need all this stuff right
now because you don't with time. They'll come back to
me if they liked it right exactly. And so that's
what I like about you. But I am like, why
didn't we talk about my slappy family?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
The reason we didn't talk about it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Because you made me feel good for like he is like,
you had three kids, yeah, and the kid.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The truth is, I'm not going to compliment you and
I'm not going to degrade you just for the sake
of the discussion. If you come in and I've seen
twenty thousand naked women. Right, this is what I do
for a living. So on occasion, the patient's like, oh,
I've had five kids, Oh I had seven kids. I
had a patient on my show seven kids, seven kids,
Da da da da da, And what do you do
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do this that the other? And I don't ever, And
then I examined her. I was like, nah, come on,
give me a and she was she was doing amateur
bodybuilding competitions at with seven kids, and I was just like, no,
I got to give you mad props. You look spectacular.
And so at the end of the day, you have
to tell the patients because at the end of the
day you are an expert, and I think many of
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them don't realize how good or they do look and
they need that compliment. Furthermore, if something isn't right, I'll
mention it to you. But if someone doesn't mention something
to me, I have just decided it made it my
philosophy not to mention things to them, even if it's
the neighbor. The only time I don't do that is
in the face, So I face someone comes to me
and they're like, hey, I don't like my neck and
my jaw, my jowls and stuff. I usually don't go
(19:43):
here's your neck job, here's your necklifting, call it a day,
because your eyelids are like a centimeter away. Then you're brown.
So I usually do a facial analysis because when you
look at someone you're like, wow, she looks great, or
wow she looks weathered or older, or he does faces.
I give you a full analysis, but I don't go
over someone here for breast and be like, hey, you
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don't want to do your stomach.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, but now that we're talking about the stomach, like,
I love Boonda and I will continue working out and
trying to like get my best physique.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
But I am like, if I.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Do come back, and I just because this pooch thing
is like the most impossible to get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
It's you know why it's impossible get rid. No, you
have three kids. When you have three kids, no matter
how amazing your body is and how much you work out,
things do happen that are irreversible. Yeah right, you can't.
You can't. You'll never see a nine year old woman
who doesn't have saggy neck. It's just not possible. So
every time you gave birth, your rectus muscles the two
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muscles that are stuck together pull apart a little bit,
and that pulling apart is known as diastasis. It's separation
the first time since you were in shape and skinny.
I bounce back. You think you bounce back, You look
like you bounce back, But technically there was some damage.
It was mine, and you can make up for it
by being in shape. Nonetheless, you have a second child,
(21:04):
that separation increases. Can't you heal it? Can't you fix it? No,
it's torn, it's broken, it's cracked. The tree is broken.
It's broken.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Oh, my therapist told me. My trainer told me, they're
all full of shit. What they're doing is a strengthening
your muscles, which you can and it camouflages that. But
by the third one, very few people have no visible change.
And that lady who had seven kids, who's competing, still
needed my help. And what's happened is your muscle separated
(21:34):
enough where when I say relax your belly pooches, that's
not a diet thing, that's not a gas thing, that's
not a working out thing, that's not a skinny thing.
That's a muscle separation. And until such time that you
repair the broken muscles. You're never gonna be flat. You'll
be strong. You may look your very best for who
you are, but you're not gonna be Wow, I'm flat.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
But the rumor has it is that the belly button
when you do the surgery.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's not a rumor, it's a reality, and it does. Yes,
oh yes, so, but there's changes. Oh wow, that looks
pretty good, and oh that's terrible, just like that's the
same thing with a breast surgery, just like a rhinoplasty,
just like a facelift, just like an eyelid. There's a wow,
that looks incredible. Have you seen how good Brad Pitt looks?
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And oh what happened to what happened to that guy?
Oh wow, that looks terrible. So the reality is that
the outcomes is based on the ability of the surgeon
to execute a natural result. We have to cut around
the belly button because we have to go to the
top of your ribs to sow the muscle from the
top down. The bulge doesn't occur just at the bottom.
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It starts at your ribs and works its way down.
It's most prominent at the bottom because you, without having
even seen you carried your kids low. I can tell
you carry them in your pelvis because your stretches in
the pelvis. There are women whose bulges up top like
their little gap is up here. That means they carry
their kids like a foot, like a basketball right straight
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on out, whereas your more traditional low in pelvis right.
So yeah, we'll take care of it for you not
to worry.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Okay, And then with time, I think like my.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Neck, and I don't think it like what age do
people typically start really need?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
So I did a gal. I did a girl Friday.
She's thirty seven thirty four, thirty seven thirty four, and
I just did her neck. Her face is spectacular. So
my point I make by saying that is there is
no age the ages of which the age to fix
something is when two things occur at the same time.
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One there is some physical change, Two it bothers you.
What does that mean? I can't do a surgery on
you because you don't. I want to do it before
that happens. I can't fix something that hasn't happened. So
that's the stupidest thing I've heard. It's online people are like, oh,
do it's so early that it never happens? What does
that fucking mean figure? How do I change something that
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hasn't broken? So it has to be there. And the
other is it has to bother you. Some people have
features that you bother you and me because we're vain,
and they don't even they're not even bothered. And some
people are bothered by the slightest subtle change. So two
things have to happen for you to have surgery. One
it has to have physically happened to you, and two
it has to bother you. So when do these things
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normally happen forty you get start getting at forty depending
on your weight and height and physiology, you start getting
hollowness in your cheek, a little marionette, a tiny little jow,
and you're starting to get loose to the neck, and
as every year goes by, that increases forty two, forty four.
So now today we do faces way sooner than we
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did just fifteen years ago. And the only reason that
is is because people are okay with it now. We
should have been doing it this early from the beginning.
I did my niece at sixteen, I did her nose job.
Even I won't even said anything. You did a no
job on a sixteen year old, it's like, yeah, of
course because we were used to that, right, So before
you tell a forty eight year old or a forty
six year old, hey, we're gonna do a facelift on you,
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like a facelift. Oh my god, my grandmother got a
facelift a face. It was so connect just like the
word vanity. It created an emotion, and so we would wait.
But now we're smarter than that, We're like, wait, I
don't want to wait till I'm sixty. I want to
fix it now. And when you do it early, it
looks more natural because you're not pulling some old, raggedy
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extra You're you're making a little slight change.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
So you got to like upkeep sort of.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Reale fifteen twenty years. You'll need a little a little tightening.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Okay, great, there it is.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
And then the last thing I think I'm gonna do,
which I don't even know if you do, but it's veneers.
My only who does my botox, was like, Aby, you've
got a great face, but she wants to tell you
that if you got your teeth, they would take ten
years off.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And I'm like, so veneers are an interesting thing. I
don't do veneers and dentists. There are a lot of
good dentists that do it. But I think the thing
with veneers that are interesting is like, so if your
teeth are terrible, veneers are awesome, right, because like, wow,
that's improved. The problem is that depending on the veneers,
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sometimes the veneers look like chick Live. They look like
the little So it's just like a facelift. I found
the right right, Okay, Well i'll tell you if he's
the right guy off camera. Off camera, I'll give you
my thoughts on it. But yeah, I think all these
things so you know, again, you remind me of my wife.
My wife is all about it. My mom is all
about it. They're like, wait, you we have the ability
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and this thing doesn't look good and I'm going to
wait for why, like sign me up? If anything, you know,
I have to walk them off the ledge. So but
but I think that the point that we started with
was this concept of vanity, which I love about people
like you, which is embrace the fact people are going
to be. But then they play coy with the concept
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and then they have this internal push and pull. Oh
am I being vain? I shouldn't be vain. What I
love is people like you, my mom, my wife, who
accept it, own it, and then enjoy it. Yeah, which
is I want to look awesome within reason. I want.
I have things available to me. We have the financial capacity,
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why would I want other? And so I think the
whole concept and what I loved about you as a
person is the ability to not only own it, but
then own it with without any any sense of embarrassments
like hell, yeahah, and that's really that's very very good.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Well, I don't know if it's because I'm just I've
was raised by a confident mom who's like, you're awesome.
Like my mom always says, be kind, but take no shit,
and so I've always been that way. So I've become
successful on my own. I don't need a man sort
of thing, you know. And I also I'm like, I
like the way I look.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, but it's not because of the way you were raised.
It's who you are really because yeah, because you have
my my brother, my sister, and myself, and we could
be three different people. My sister is gould if my
mom physically has to force her to put lipstick on
and she's fifty seven, whereas you know, there's me and I.
You know, ever, I'll dress up for everything, so it's
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just who you are as in your DNA, and some
people own it and they own things easier. I have
patients who I do fate I do surgery on. I'm like, hey,
do you mind if I post your fit? Oh? I
don't want anyone to know.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I'm not shy about it.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Wait, you don't want anyone to know? Are you? Are
you embarrassed? Are you just like some kind of is
this something you're embarrassed about? Like? No, well, then if
you're not embarrassed, I would own it.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
I just didn't want people to I said no to
the pictures on your site only because I didn't want
people I work with to go be like, there's Amy's boobs.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But because she has freckles, right, you could find me?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
No, they would never find No, you think you're the
only person with freckles? Oh? Wait is that the Oh?
Is that the pattern? Oh? There you have there? There
it is the big dipper on her chest? Like what
do you fucking there's a thousand people with this. They're
not gonna know you from from.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Shipping modest person. That's the other thing about me. I
am very modest.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I'm not concerned about your modesty, but the point of
matter is that no one will recognize you. Nevertheless, But
I do think that the concept of vanity and embracing
it is a great one. I try to I try
to infuse that in my patients who are doing the
surgeries that I'm providing them. But they're they're they're struggling
with it, and it's kind of not fun for me
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because you're commissioning me to make this beautiful art piece,
but in a weird way, you're not loving it and
what I and they do eventually at the end. But
for me, because I'm involved in the process, I love
it when people come in and they're like, I can't wait,
this is I'm so excited. I'm so glad that I'm
taking this money that I worked for and investing it
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and this thing that's going to bring me joy. So
can you imagine, as the person that you're hiring, how
much more fun that is for me? How much more
invested I am? I know, But I have patients that
are a lot of like they have their foot on
the gas and the break simultaneously, and they want to
know why they're not not going anywhere. It's like, listen,
do you want to do this or not? Because if
you don't, I'm okay with you. I'm totally fine with it.
But own it. This is great, this is elective. You
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could be going to the Maldives. You could buy a burkin,
you could put it in a four to one k.
You chose to do esthetic surgery. Let's do this right.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
And do you find that your wife and your mom
are happier people.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I don't know if they're happening. They're both actually very
feisty women, but I know that when they are. My wife,
for example, who's at this at this moment, a stay
home mom. She gets up, puts on makeup, puts up lipstick.
At home. She may go nowhere she's like, and she'll
tell you. She'll be first to tell you. She's like,
I do for myself. I need to look good. I
don't want to go anywhere my mom will Where my
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mom was a volunteer at the hospital, she was decked out. Yeah,
because she's like, I'm not gonna the house unless I
look good. So then yes, when they look their best,
they are very happy. And conversely, when they don't, they're
very unhappy.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Okay, and so well, I come from a line of
no divorce, and it's not to say that you know,
they hadn't fought or didn't get a long at times,
but I think love was like a big piece in
my upbringing. And so for me and my husband, I'm like,
I want to be in love forever, and for me,
vanity is a piece of that, because I am like,
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I want to look good for him, I want to
flirt still.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I want him to want to have sex like I
want that.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
And I feel like if I were frumpy or not
taking care of myself, maybe.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
So these are the conversations that are being had. Yeah,
the fact of the matter is this bullshit idea that
we've been married for fifteen years somehow makes him blind
or you blind. No. Now, remember men and women are
built differently. Women will madly fall in love with someone
because of who they are, their persona. Men will do
the same. But I don't know, it doesn't if you're
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gay or even straight. Men are more visual, they have
more muscle, they pee standing up. That were different. And
so this notion that I don't give a fuck, I
don't care, I'm not going he should love me. I
gave birth to his kids. Like this whole attitude doesn't
end well because you can't force someone to be attracted
to you. You can tell them to f off. But instead,
(32:20):
I'm not saying you should kill yourself, but instead you
should make an effort. You should try. And if that
means that you need to lose a little weight or
and by the way, the same as by the guy
needs to you. Guy can't be some fat slob and
not care together. You need to invest in maintaining the visual,
physical cues that go along with the emotionalness psychological. What
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happens so often is nobody wants to talk about that.
But old school, old school, they talked about it because
my Russian mother in law said to my wife many
years ago, you gotta look good. He's your husband. You
gotta look good. That would today if you said that,
you'd be arrested. I know you're like, oh you you know.
And so I think that the fact that you were
able to say that and say, listen, I want to
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look good to my husband so that he lusts and
desires me in addition to him loving me as a person.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I like flirting, and that's the thing. As soon as
I have like an energy. I think energy is a
big deal. And so when I feel frumpy er, I
feel down, I'm not as nice like I said, and
I can feel him being like, oh, she's being bitchy
right now.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Whatever, God forbid.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
One day we don't make each other happy anymore, we
don't love each other anymore. I still want to be
in my prime and look good.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
So that's another great point. That's a very good point,
which is you don't you don't just let go of
yourself because this person and you were married. You don't
know where life takes you. I have patients, I have,
God forbid. I have patients whose husbands dropped dead at
fifty and they're all of a sudden back on the market.
And now what, I have patients who, unbeknown to them,
they all of a sudden find out their husband cheated
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on them. They're back on the market. Now. I'm referring
to it as a female thing, but it could be
the reverse. It could be the guy who all of
a sudden his wife leaves him or drops it or whatever.
My point being is that you want to be your
best version period. You want to be it for yourself.
You want to be it for your kids. You want
to be it for your current and hopefully forever partner.
But I there are people that just throw in the
(34:15):
towel because it's easy. You know. We live in the
casual lifestyle now. Before you had to get it. We
had a formal lifestyle before. Now it's casual. Let me
see here. Do I wear Proder? Do I wear Allah?
I'll take allo? Like do I wear shoes or wear
flip flops? I take flip flops.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Do I do my hair or do I wear it
in a bun and look like it just got back
from the gym, Like no one gives a shit anymore,
I know, And so you get away with sort of
not being it's kind of like it's.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Funny, like I it takes. I have thick hair. I
have a lot of hair.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
My husband, I'm like, I'm in a shower and I'd
like to do my hair today and he's like, where
are you going?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
And I'm like, can I just do my hair? Like
because guess what, I don't have to do it for
three more days? Like this is the lot? This isn't
I have to wash my hair tonight?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You know, And so I'm like gone, and.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It takes an hour to do. Sure, but guess what,
it makes me look good.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And he's like, who you seeing And I'm like, good,
stick keep on your toes.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah I can't. I won't tell you who I'm saying, but.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Exactly, but he's handsome, exactly. It's playful, I mean really.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
And if you don't do that, then it's it's the
beginning of the end. Because every relationship needs some spark, fuel,
some spice, even as time goes on. And I think
physical nature of one's body. Yeah, okay, one day I'll
be seventy. Okay, you look good for a seventy year old.
(35:34):
We're not asking you to look good for a twenty
year like a seven year old.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I'm not trying to look twenty when I'm seventy. I
want to age gracefully.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
But no, but I understand that, and I think it's great.
And I think that the dialogue you have, the verbal
outward conversation, which is I'm okay, being vain, I want
to look good. That whole mantra is the key to
I think a successful partnership.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
And my friend, she was one of our first friends
to get her boots done and it was like she
was I think eighteen, and she was like, anybody that
tells you not to get your boobs done just doesn't
want you to look your best.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And it stuck with me forever.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Oh, there is that, There is that component that you
have friends that are haters.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, I'm like, why wouldn't you want your friend? I
think like everyone should feel and look their best. Like,
I am supportive with whatever you need to do to
get there, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Like, yeah, well there's this whole thing. You know, it'll
be this under it'll be this backhanded. You know, honey,
you look great the way you are. You shouldn't have
to do that for him or whatever. It's it's just
some you know, in reality, if you were able to
actually test them and really put them on a light detector,
it really is about you not wanting me to look
better because you're insecure. I mean, it isn't because you
actually think.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I'm like, everyone should look good, Like, wouldn't that be
would be happier people.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I think it'd be a happier place, that's for sure,
the world. We would have less conflict. Yeah, I agree
with that hundredercent. So you are now three weeks out, Yeah,
what we're gonna do is We're gonna definitely have you
back on, and we're going to have you back on
when you hit your you know, six month mark, and
we're gonna have you wear a cute little sexy tank
top and you can come up here, and I would
love for you to bring your hot husband and you
guys can tell me about the impact, because a breast
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dog is a breast dog. It's nothing. It's like getting
a haircut or or or or getting a spray tan.
What matters is the ripple effect of this procedure. I
feel sexy. It increased our intimacy. We this that I
see him doing this. Oh my wife looks that. It's
that what that was for. And so I'd love to
see how the impact of this because you can already
(37:30):
I can see you can see it. But wait till
you actually get to drive the car and be in
the car and wash the car and all that good stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I was gonna say this, you know, after care the
six weeks, I feel bad because I do.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
A lot around the house.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I'm I've got the babies, I'm picking them, and I
can tell Nick's like, when is this over?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Because I'm always like you gotta go get.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Him on that crat. That's good.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Take advantage, you know, And he's just like, he's.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Just take advantage of it. I gave you a six
week call pass. At six weeks, you got to go
live your life, go be So he's going to expect
you to double do make up for what you did
in But I think it'll be exciting to see you
back because you're the type of person and you're you're
as a couple, you'll be the type of people that
will really say what people experience, and that's what we want.
We want authenticity so people can really appreciate what they
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can expect from it. So well, we appreciate you coming
on our show and chatting with us, and we're going
to have you back on and again and again because
we're going to be operating on you forever. I know,
it's just going to be. It's just going to we
are are we actually air that. That is one of
our greatest joys is when we have patients. Now I've
been in practice come twenty years, and unlike other things
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where the circle is smaller, you did something, you came back.
You did something, you came back. In plastic surgery, it's
often longer. So when I was in my thirties, I
was operating on you at your thirties, and then when
now that I'm in my fifties, I'm operating on those
patients in their fifties, and then I'll be one more
circle in my seventies or sixties. So we are now
starting to really get.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
A full I asked you when I was like, well,
when do I have to get these redone?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
You said in fifty years.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I was like, well, are you going to I need
you to be the one that does it. I'm not
going to get my car service at the same place.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
So don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Right right before I retire, I'll call you. Yeah, my
tremor is getting worse. I would get in now, and
my vision it's a little shot. I'm starting to get
some cataracts. Come on in, girl, No, this is it.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I'm excited. I'm going to bring my mom in because
she's got the next thing.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah, it's exciting. I'm just I really enjoy doing what
I do with patients like you, who make whom because
we are at the mercy of you, right, we are
at the mercy of the patients because when the patients
are awesome. Everyone is happy, the staff, everyone. When the
patients are difficult, because they are difficult people, it's not fun.
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It's just not fun. It's just like not enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Like I work in the same type of business where
I have annoying people and really awesome people that make
it worth it every day, and I like going to
work because it doesn't feel like work when people say that,
my god, that's so annoying. But it is fun to
be around like minded, smart people that get it and
are experts in their field. Like you are the expert.
I'm going to trust the expert. You've done the work
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I haven't done, and I'm like, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, well that's good. That's why you surround yourself with
excellent people. And you are excellent, and we are grateful
that you trusted us. And we will see you back
here in a few weeks for your reveal and you
can then go, as you said, go go rite, test
test out, the test out the new car. Yes, all right, guys.
Well that's a wrap on plastic surgery and censored as always,
(40:39):
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your host, Doctor Raban, I will see you next week.
Welcome to another episode of Plastic Surgery and Censored. I'm
your host, Doctor Roddy Raban, and we have a very
fun episode ahead of us because my guest is fun.
My guess is a fantastic, sweet patient of ours. That
is how far out are you from surgery?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Three and a half weeks?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I love it. Three and a half weeks out from surgery.
You wouldn't know it because she looks just so spectacularly natural.
And we're going to talk about a subject that we've
talked about before, but yeah, we're going to talk about
it from a different side of the coin. We're going
to talk about her journey. Amy's Now how old are you?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Amy?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Thirty nine? So there's a few things I'm going to unpack.
Amy had a breast augmentation, and we're allowed to say that, yes, yeah,
oh right, So Amy had a breas augmentation at thirty nine.
So I think it's really important for us to talk
about that because people always talk, am I too old
to have something like that done? No. As a matter
of fact, half the people who have breast surgery done
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do it before having kids, and half do it after
having kids. And you have three beautiful children, and an
awesome husband. And you guys were one of my favorite
couples in recent times that I met because you were easy, smooth,
well connected. You guys knew what you wanted. You came in,
you asked the right questions. We had a beautiful bond.
(01:31):
You executed your surgery, you didn't double step. We'd boom
bam boom, and here we are. It's as if it
was just like it was like almost just going to
get a haircut or going to get your teeth cleaned.
That's how smooth everything went. And that has predominantly due
to you. Because we have a system in place, and
if the patients are easy, the system will carry you through.
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The patients are difficult and they pull the emergency brake
and through a wrench in it, then they make the
process more challenge for themselves. Nevertheless, we're going to talk
about breast augmentation, but we're gonna envelop it in the
concept of vanity because you said it, which was very
beautiful and I always have to tiptoe around it, which
is the whole idea of vanity. And the minute you
say vanity. Generally, if you say vanity to the regular person,
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they immediately connotate it with a negative flavor, Like if
I say prostitute, you're like, oh, prostitute, Oh you know, heroine.
So everything has an emotion. And when you say vanity,
people are like, oh, that person's vain, as if it's
some negative thing. But that's not true. Vanity just means
you give a shit about the way you look. We
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just gave it as negative feel because we kind of
just that's what happened over the time. I am vain
and that I really care about the way that I
look and present myself. My wife is vain, My mother
is vain. My mom at eighty five, at eighty five
wears heels, makeup, dolled up, hair done, hair spray, the
(03:00):
whole lipstick. She was a cosmetologist, beautician. And my sister
is absolutely not vain.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I mean, I think my grandma's vain. She was Miss
Black Hills as a Native American, and that for me,
I just was like, she's so beautiful and naturally beautiful,
and I thankfully I have high cheekbones, but I do
want to be naturally pretty, and it's for me.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I've always looked.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
In the mirror and I'm like, I like myself and
if I like myself, I feel like I'm a nicer person.
I get more done if i'm because I sometimes work
from home. I'm a TV producer and sometimes I work
from home. And if I like don't get dressed in
the morning, I am slumpy.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I don't get much done.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
But if I go put on some jeans and a
little bit of makeup, and like I don't need much,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
But after having three kids, I was like, this is
not my body anymore. Like I used to be hot
and young, and like, sure, I don't feel like that anymore.
And I want to look at myself. And my husband's
a gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
He is I can attest you if I were gay. Yeah,
he's a good looking guy. Right, it's a hunk.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
And he looks good. But he didn't have to give
birth to kids. He didn't have to do any of that.
And so for me, I I just recently my youngest
is a year and I'm like Nick, like this is
just doesn't make me feel sexy, you know, And he's like, well,
look do.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Something about it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Call one of your friends that have gotten their boobs dead.
And so that's what I did. I was like, who
has really good boobs that I know I got of it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And my friend said, yes, who went to you?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And she's saying, like, I've done all the research, I've
gone to all the consultations in all of LA.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
This is your guy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah she did, she is. She is in your friend
group that I am in my friend group. Hey, I
want a TV. What do you recommend? Okay, don't waste time,
go get this one because someone's done the homework.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And it's funny because my other good friend who's beautiful
and her boobs look great, but years ago she was like,
when you get them.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Done, go to Garth. And I was, and I'm not saying,
don't go to Garth because I've sent of course, every
like my hair my other friend, like so many people
I've sent to Garth before. I got my boots done.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And so when I told my hairdresser I got my
boobs done, she's like, you didn't go to Garth.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's like, wait, you sent me there and then you
went there. I know, I mean new news, new information
came up.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
But I did one consultation and I was like, wait,
I think Ashley's right, she has done all the research.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I went to you.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's like I want to go to an expert that
answers everything for me. And I really had like two
questions after your fifteen minute spiel because I was like, wait, okay,
those were all the things, and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
You guys were an easy patient population to deal with.
We have sort of in every profession. You have your
TV producer, you know, when you're like, oh, what a
great production team. Everyone's doing their jobs, everyone listens, they
get along, this is going to be an amazing show.
And then you have people like she's a bitch, this
one's a prima donna, this guy's an idiot, and this
is going to be painful, and at the end of
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the day, you still get it done. The show may
still be an Emmy winning, you know, might be amazing,
but at the same time, it's just painful. So for me,
when I meet patients, especially when it's for rest augmentation,
I think we number one. In general, all consultation processes
need to be thorough. The assumption I make when I
meet people is they know nothing, and what they know
they may know wrong. And rather than you and me
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have a huge banter, Hey, what questions can I answer
for you? So normally how a console goes is you
come in, You're like, hey, I'm thinking having a breast dog.
Immediately is followed by I just want to look natural. Listen,
I'm you know, I'm you know. I'm in the Malibu
or Palisades there or Ballera. What I refer to you
guys as a Malibu mom's group, which is all very
natural athletic, but still want to lists sexy, want to
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go coach little league at the same time, want to
go out at night, et cetera. I want to look natural,
and yeah, that's what I want to do. And then
add I'll say a few things, You'll ask me a
few questions. I'll say the few things, you'll ask me
some questions, and next thing you know, twenty minutes went
by and we really didn't cover much. I don't do
it that way. I don't do it that way because
I know what you need to know. You don't know
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what you don't know, and the best way for us
to get you the information because my goal is for
you to be knowledgeable. If you come with me, great,
If you go somewhere else, great. At least I know
that you came to a consult and you got the
information needed. So I tell everybody, don't speak. Don't speak
until I'm done, and then I'm going to pop up
pop pop pop pop pop pop up, examine da da
da da da da data. Do you have any questions?
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And what you'll notice is, holy shit. I had ten questions.
They were answered, and there's thirty things I didn't know
and those were told to me. And I found that
to be the way I would want to be informed
about whatever it is that I'm having done. So I'm
I'm grateful and I'm glad that it was. It worked
for you and it was information you needed.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It reminded me of what I do in my TV
shows because I work with the talent. When they come
on set for the very first time they've never been
on TV. I have to explain to them, like it's
not always glamorous, Like you're gonna be sitting and waiting
around for a long time. I don't want to hear
you bitching when you get out there. Like there's all
these things that I have to explain to them. Sure
we do it, because once we're out there, now you
have all of the negative parts in your head because
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it's not going to.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Be glamorous all the time.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Right being on TV, and so I'm like, are you
still willing to do this? If you're still willing to
do this, then let's go and have a great time
out there. And you'll ask any of the people I
worked with, they're like, thank you for warning me about
sitting for an hour's you know, because of the cameras
weren't ready or whatever. And I appreciated your combo because
it reminded me of like, hey, Amy, I don't want
you coming back to me and saying these are too
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small or these are too big. And I appreciated that
because you know, it was a team effort that we
had and getting the perfect size for me. And I
liked how you were like, I don't you can't give
me like the size that you want.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
We have to go off pictures.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And I thought that was really helpful. So that's interesting
you should say so that a couple of things. Number
one the way too fore go. Actually, I tell you
something I learned when I was a resident. I don't
remember a lot from residency because I don't know how
much of it was helpful, But one guy said to me,
and I still hang out with him. He's the guy
that I think influenced me the most. He said, everything
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you tell the patient before they consider you a genius.
Everything you tell this, you tell the same thing that
the patient afterwards and its excuses. So if I tell
you before surgery ABC and it happens, you go, oh,
he told me that. If I had nothing to do
with it, and after it happens and I tell you, yeah,
but these things could happen, you'd be like, wait, these
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that's an excuse. Same shit happens. So for the last
twenty years, and by my personality, I'm going to frontload everything.
These are all the greats, these are all the uglies.
This could go wrong, this, that's the other. And then
you are super informed and God forbid, something isn't exactly
what you anticipated. You and I are both on the
same page. You're like, yep, let's take care of it now.
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The thing you hit on, which is by far the
biggest part of breast augmentation, is sizing, right. The biggest
issue with a breast enhancement is how big. Oh, I
want to be natural? There is no natural size like
you and your best friend could literally have the same
two implants and she looks like a porn star and
you look like you had breast offs. Yeah, so oh
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I want the same size as my friend. Well what
does that even mean? You guys don't even wear the
same shoes. No, that's not how this works. So traditionally,
sizing is a big problem. And the way doctors usually
do it is they do something called volume matrix displacement.
What that means is that we give you a bra
and you put in implants, or you put in rice,
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or we take a photo of you and you put
it in a digital machine that then puts digital implants
in and rotates you around. But they're all the same concept,
which is you, amy are going to pick the size
you want and usually patients are going to be like,
I don't know too eighty five and we're like great,
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great selection, and then we ordered it two eighty five
and that's what you get. And when you're pissed because
they look huge or they're not big enough, we blame
you because hey, heymy remember you and your husband were
there and then you guys went through this chart and
and the nurse and.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You you can't, I know, you're like, what, we're not
going back?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Okay. The next thing is the next thing is for
you to tell me no, no, no, I just want
to be a C. It's really simple. Just don't fuck
this up, doctor BoNT. Just give me a C. And
I'm like, okay, which C? You and I could go
to a bral store and I'll pick up four different
c's Victoria's Secret thirty two C, Lapeerla thirty two C,
Bloomingdale thirty two SE and you will literally not fit
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in half of them. So we now have established C
is meaningless because it's not like five foot ten, one
hundred and eighty pounds. It's a random ass size that
you made by a manufacturer. Everyone knows that Victoria's Secret
sizing is small. Everyone knows that right, just like you
know certain European sizes. You don't fit in the shoe
even though your size forty and that brand it runs small.
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What do you mean it runs small? Is it the
forty or not? So the way that I have gotten
around that and the way that I do it and
it puts all the pressure on me is I say, listen,
don't worry about anything. Just tell me what color blue
you like? I like this shade, Doctor Rabon, perfect you
like this blue?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I like this blue? Can you show me one shade
that's a little too dark for you, Yeah, that this
shade's a little too dark. And one that's a little
too light. Yeah, I think that's too light. Okay, go
to sleep. I'll worry about the rest. So what that
means is I tell you to show me what you like. Yeah,
don't worry about how tall she is, and tell me
what you think's a little bit big for you and
what you think is a little bit small, And go
to sleep, and I'll worry about the rest. And I
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will use scisors and sit you up and sit you
down and jump through hoops and if and when you
wake up you're like, what the hell is this, I'll
take the heat for it.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's crazy to think that you guys are in that
room and I'm out there like sleeping, and I'm just
like this.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You're not like this, because you're more like You're not
like a crocarecrow. You're more like Christ. We have your
arms out like this.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It's just funny to think about.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
But also what I really appreciated about our consultation was
you said I had and I have to like whisper.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
It makes me feel awkward saying it, but protruding nipples. Yes,
And I was like, oh my god, and I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
You were like, I have to tell everybody because you're
the first girl, you like, my.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
First breast augmentation. I learned my lesson, which is interesting.
Did we do anything your nipples are actually shape them down? Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Great, we don't want protruding niles.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Okay, so great point. Oh I didn't even know that.
So what happens is it's actually the right term is prominent.
Oh but I'm like, so prominent nipples is nothing more
than saying your nipples are large, right, and so just
like your areola, just like your nose, just like your
ear lobe, just like your labia. We have parts and
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those parts are small and their medium and regular and
and big. It's like, holy shit, look at her ear lobes. Right,
So nipples can be prominent in that they project a lot.
They can be wide, and they can be tall. Anyone
who has it knows what I'm talking about, because they
know that every time they wear a bathing suit, which
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is a very thin piece of material, they need to
get something with padding because otherwise they're on all the
time and it's uncomfortable or it's a little maybe not
the look they like, or they can't wear a brawless
outfit without a T shirt or a T shirt because
it's too prominent compared to say, someone who has a
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very small, soft nipple barely even projects. Okay, And so
when you get a when you breastfeed and you get
hormonal changes in your breast getting gorge and then get
smaller and gorge and get smaller, the nipples also lengthen,
just like when you get birth. Vaginally, your LaBier didn't
look that way when they were eighteen, so it's perfectly fine,
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it's normal. But you go and get a breast dog
and all of a sudden you're like, whoa, my nipples
are an alert. So I learned my lesson this way.
So I did my first I remember who was one
of my best friends, referred her friend to me, and
it's my first breast dog. And I'm telling you, I'm
shitten bricks right, because at the end of the day,
no matter how many times you do something in a simulator,
it ain't a simulator. And so I'm out, I'm fortunified.
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I'm the man I trained in years, but here I
am doing my first breast dog. Sweetest lady for kids.
She actually reminds me a lot of you. She was
very sweet and dynamic and talkative, so she made me
feel comfortable. I was like, you're gonna be okay. I
was like, I was like, okay, all right, cool. I
did her breast dog, see her and follow up everything
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I'm just waiting for. And she looks in the mirror.
She's like, I love them. They're great. She's so animated.
And then she's like I remember, she's like, these goddamn
nipples are so big, you know, because now she had
a breast dog, and her nipples went from being deflated
and down and back where she didn't care anymore to
like out there and she's like, god, they're so big.
Oh my god, I'm gonna I was, and I remember
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just sitting there and going, Okay, no worries, no worries.
We can fix that for you. We do this thing.
It's called a nipple reduction, and I do this that
the other end, and she looked at me. She's like,
you're telling that to me now because I said I
could do it under local, because I can't do it
under local, and she's like local, how's just under an anesthesia?
Why the hell didn't you tell me? I was like,
well I did. You didn't bring it up. She's like,
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I didn't bring it up because I didn't know it
was in a thing. And I'm historically very sensitive of
not mentioning shit to you. I'm not that guy. You're
gonna come in I'm gonna break you down. You're not
gonna come in and be like, hey, I know you're
hearing me for this. What what's this flappy skin on
your belly?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
We need to talk about that, because.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Well we'll get there. Hold on, wait, you're going to
talk about the flabby belt. But what I'm saying is
I don't want to make up shit that bothers you
and make you feel insecure and then up sell you
to Like while I was there, he said, no, you're
so good. I don't like that. That's fucked up. That's
you're there, You're vulnerable, you're naked, and I'm not like, yeah,
your brush.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I know you will tell you what I think after
you finished this story, because I was gonna.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So so then what happened was I was like, I'm
so sorry. She's like, you gotta do me a favor.
Lesson learned. You're a young guy. Please. Every single time
you see a woman with a prominent nipple and there
for a breast dog, you must tell her. I swear
to God on my own children. I have never not
mentioned it again. And interesting enough, she was absolutely right.
I would say ninety nine percent of patients are like, what,
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you can make my nipple smaller? And then the next
question is am I gonna lose sensation? No I needed
for orgasm? Are you sure it's no problem? Can I
BREASTFEEDD No problem? The technique that I use is one
that preserves everything. So it's just about making your nipple smaller,
making them more proportional, wearing a bathing suit without anything
needing cover. And she taught me that lesson. So anyways,
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so we got so that made a difference. I did it.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I was like, please help me, but don't because I
don't want to come back. You're right, like and have
to do with something else.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
But do you think it made a difference.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's a huge difference.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
They're beautiful, like I mean we have it's three weeks
in so we haven't been able to play with them
or do anything yet, but visually they look great. And
I'm still wearing the bra that I have to wear
yea because you're very adamant about the aftercare and I'm listening.
So one day, when I'm wearing hot tops and cute outfits,
I will be so thankful that.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't have to wear always wear three weeks away.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Okay, good, it's not like in the twenty twenty. It's
in three weeks, I know.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But what I what I really like about you.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
It reminds me my husband owns an automotive shop and
he is like, he's not the guy when you come
into that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
He's like, this is I do not want to be
the guy that's like, you.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Need briefs, you need, you need all this stuff right
now because you don't with time. They'll come back to
me if they liked it right exactly. And so that's
what I like about you. But I am like, why
didn't we talk about my slappy family?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
The reason we didn't talk about it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Because you made me feel good for like he is like,
you had three kids, yeah, and the kid.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The truth is, I'm not going to compliment you and
I'm not going to degrade you just for the sake
of the discussion. If you come in and I've seen
twenty thousand naked women. Right, this is what I do
for a living. So on occasion, the patient's like, oh,
I've had five kids, Oh I had seven kids. I
had a patient on my show seven kids, seven kids,
Da da da da da, And what do you do
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do this that the other? And I don't ever, And
then I examined her. I was like, nah, come on,
give me a and she was she was doing amateur
bodybuilding competitions at with seven kids, and I was just like, no,
I got to give you mad props. You look spectacular.
And so at the end of the day, you have
to tell the patients because at the end of the
day you are an expert, and I think many of
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them don't realize how good or they do look and
they need that compliment. Furthermore, if something isn't right, I'll
mention it to you. But if someone doesn't mention something
to me, I have just decided it made it my
philosophy not to mention things to them, even if it's
the neighbor. The only time I don't do that is
in the face, So I face someone comes to me
and they're like, hey, I don't like my neck and
my jaw, my jowls and stuff. I usually don't go
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here's your neck job, here's your necklifting, call it a day,
because your eyelids are like a centimeter away. Then you're brown.
So I usually do a facial analysis because when you
look at someone you're like, wow, she looks great, or
wow she looks weathered or older, or he does faces.
I give you a full analysis, but I don't go
over someone here for breast and be like, hey, you
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don't want to do your stomach.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, but now that we're talking about the stomach, like,
I love Boonda and I will continue working out and
trying to like get my best physique.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
But I am like, if I.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Do come back, and I just because this pooch thing
is like the most impossible to get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
It's you know why it's impossible get rid. No, you
have three kids. When you have three kids, no matter
how amazing your body is and how much you work out,
things do happen that are irreversible. Yeah right, you can't.
You can't. You'll never see a nine year old woman
who doesn't have saggy neck. It's just not possible. So
every time you gave birth, your rectus muscles the two
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muscles that are stuck together pull apart a little bit,
and that pulling apart is known as diastasis. It's separation
the first time since you were in shape and skinny.
I bounce back. You think you bounce back, You look
like you bounce back, But technically there was some damage.
It was mine, and you can make up for it
by being in shape. Nonetheless, you have a second child,
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that separation increases. Can't you heal it? Can't you fix it? No,
it's torn, it's broken, it's cracked. The tree is broken.
It's broken.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Oh, my therapist told me. My trainer told me, they're
all full of shit. What they're doing is a strengthening
your muscles, which you can and it camouflages that. But
by the third one, very few people have no visible change.
And that lady who had seven kids, who's competing, still
needed my help. And what's happened is your muscle separated
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enough where when I say relax your belly pooches, that's
not a diet thing, that's not a gas thing, that's
not a working out thing, that's not a skinny thing.
That's a muscle separation. And until such time that you
repair the broken muscles. You're never gonna be flat. You'll
be strong. You may look your very best for who
you are, but you're not gonna be Wow, I'm flat.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
But the rumor has it is that the belly button
when you do the surgery.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's not a rumor, it's a reality, and it does. Yes,
oh yes, so, but there's changes. Oh wow, that looks
pretty good, and oh that's terrible, just like that's the
same thing with a breast surgery, just like a rhinoplasty,
just like a facelift, just like an eyelid. There's a wow,
that looks incredible. Have you seen how good Brad Pitt looks?
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And oh what happened to what happened to that guy?
Oh wow, that looks terrible. So the reality is that
the outcomes is based on the ability of the surgeon
to execute a natural result. We have to cut around
the belly button because we have to go to the
top of your ribs to sow the muscle from the
top down. The bulge doesn't occur just at the bottom.
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It starts at your ribs and works its way down.
It's most prominent at the bottom because you, without having
even seen you carried your kids low. I can tell
you carry them in your pelvis because your stretches in
the pelvis. There are women whose bulges up top like
their little gap is up here. That means they carry
their kids like a foot, like a basketball right straight
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on out, whereas your more traditional low in pelvis right.
So yeah, we'll take care of it for you not
to worry.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Okay, And then with time, I think like my.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Neck, and I don't think it like what age do
people typically start really need?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
So I did a gal. I did a girl Friday.
She's thirty seven thirty four, thirty seven thirty four, and
I just did her neck. Her face is spectacular. So
my point I make by saying that is there is
no age the ages of which the age to fix
something is when two things occur at the same time.
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One there is some physical change, Two it bothers you.
What does that mean? I can't do a surgery on
you because you don't. I want to do it before
that happens. I can't fix something that hasn't happened. So
that's the stupidest thing I've heard. It's online people are like, oh,
do it's so early that it never happens? What does
that fucking mean figure? How do I change something that
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hasn't broken? So it has to be there. And the
other is it has to bother you. Some people have
features that you bother you and me because we're vain,
and they don't even they're not even bothered. And some
people are bothered by the slightest subtle change. So two
things have to happen for you to have surgery. One
it has to have physically happened to you, and two
it has to bother you. So when do these things
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normally happen forty you get start getting at forty depending
on your weight and height and physiology, you start getting
hollowness in your cheek, a little marionette, a tiny little jow,
and you're starting to get loose to the neck, and
as every year goes by, that increases forty two, forty four.
So now today we do faces way sooner than we
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did just fifteen years ago. And the only reason that
is is because people are okay with it now. We
should have been doing it this early from the beginning.
I did my niece at sixteen, I did her nose job.
Even I won't even said anything. You did a no
job on a sixteen year old, it's like, yeah, of
course because we were used to that, right, So before
you tell a forty eight year old or a forty
six year old, hey, we're gonna do a facelift on you,
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like a facelift. Oh my god, my grandmother got a
facelift a face. It was so connect just like the
word vanity. It created an emotion, and so we would wait.
But now we're smarter than that, We're like, wait, I
don't want to wait till I'm sixty. I want to
fix it now. And when you do it early, it
looks more natural because you're not pulling some old, raggedy
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extra You're you're making a little slight change.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
So you got to like upkeep sort of.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Reale fifteen twenty years. You'll need a little a little tightening.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Okay, great, there it is.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
And then the last thing I think I'm gonna do,
which I don't even know if you do, but it's veneers.
My only who does my botox, was like, Aby, you've
got a great face, but she wants to tell you
that if you got your teeth, they would take ten
years off.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And I'm like, so veneers are an interesting thing. I
don't do veneers and dentists. There are a lot of
good dentists that do it. But I think the thing
with veneers that are interesting is like, so if your
teeth are terrible, veneers are awesome, right, because like, wow,
that's improved. The problem is that depending on the veneers,
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sometimes the veneers look like chick Live. They look like
the little So it's just like a facelift. I found
the right right, Okay, Well i'll tell you if he's
the right guy off camera. Off camera, I'll give you
my thoughts on it. But yeah, I think all these
things so you know, again, you remind me of my wife.
My wife is all about it. My mom is all
about it. They're like, wait, you we have the ability
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and this thing doesn't look good and I'm going to
wait for why, like sign me up? If anything, you know,
I have to walk them off the ledge. So but
but I think that the point that we started with
was this concept of vanity, which I love about people
like you, which is embrace the fact people are going
to be. But then they play coy with the concept
(27:03):
and then they have this internal push and pull. Oh
am I being vain? I shouldn't be vain. What I
love is people like you, my mom, my wife, who
accept it, own it, and then enjoy it. Yeah, which
is I want to look awesome within reason. I want.
I have things available to me. We have the financial capacity,
(27:25):
why would I want other? And so I think the
whole concept and what I loved about you as a
person is the ability to not only own it, but
then own it with without any any sense of embarrassments
like hell, yeahah, and that's really that's very very good.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Well, I don't know if it's because I'm just I've
was raised by a confident mom who's like, you're awesome.
Like my mom always says, be kind, but take no shit,
and so I've always been that way. So I've become
successful on my own. I don't need a man sort
of thing, you know. And I also I'm like, I
like the way I look.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, but it's not because of the way you were raised.
It's who you are really because yeah, because you have
my my brother, my sister, and myself, and we could
be three different people. My sister is gould if my
mom physically has to force her to put lipstick on
and she's fifty seven, whereas you know, there's me and I.
You know, ever, I'll dress up for everything, so it's
(28:24):
just who you are as in your DNA, and some
people own it and they own things easier. I have
patients who I do fate I do surgery on. I'm like, hey,
do you mind if I post your fit? Oh? I
don't want anyone to know.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I'm not shy about it.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Wait, you don't want anyone to know? Are you? Are
you embarrassed? Are you just like some kind of is
this something you're embarrassed about? Like? No, well, then if
you're not embarrassed, I would own it.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
I just didn't want people to I said no to
the pictures on your site only because I didn't want
people I work with to go be like, there's Amy's boobs.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But because she has freckles, right, you could find me?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
No, they would never find No, you think you're the
only person with freckles? Oh? Wait is that the Oh?
Is that the pattern? Oh? There you have there? There
it is the big dipper on her chest? Like what
do you fucking there's a thousand people with this. They're
not gonna know you from from.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Shipping modest person. That's the other thing about me. I
am very modest.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I'm not concerned about your modesty, but the point of
matter is that no one will recognize you. Nevertheless, But
I do think that the concept of vanity and embracing
it is a great one. I try to I try
to infuse that in my patients who are doing the
surgeries that I'm providing them. But they're they're they're struggling
with it, and it's kind of not fun for me
(29:39):
because you're commissioning me to make this beautiful art piece,
but in a weird way, you're not loving it and
what I and they do eventually at the end. But
for me, because I'm involved in the process, I love
it when people come in and they're like, I can't wait,
this is I'm so excited. I'm so glad that I'm
taking this money that I worked for and investing it
(30:00):
and this thing that's going to bring me joy. So
can you imagine, as the person that you're hiring, how
much more fun that is for me? How much more
invested I am? I know, But I have patients that
are a lot of like they have their foot on
the gas and the break simultaneously, and they want to
know why they're not not going anywhere. It's like, listen,
do you want to do this or not? Because if
you don't, I'm okay with you. I'm totally fine with it.
But own it. This is great, this is elective. You
(30:22):
could be going to the Maldives. You could buy a burkin,
you could put it in a four to one k.
You chose to do esthetic surgery. Let's do this right.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
And do you find that your wife and your mom
are happier people.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I don't know if they're happening. They're both actually very
feisty women, but I know that when they are. My wife,
for example, who's at this at this moment, a stay
home mom. She gets up, puts on makeup, puts up lipstick.
At home. She may go nowhere she's like, and she'll
tell you. She'll be first to tell you. She's like,
I do for myself. I need to look good. I
don't want to go anywhere my mom will Where my
(30:55):
mom was a volunteer at the hospital, she was decked out. Yeah,
because she's like, I'm not gonna the house unless I
look good. So then yes, when they look their best,
they are very happy. And conversely, when they don't, they're
very unhappy.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Okay, and so well, I come from a line of
no divorce, and it's not to say that you know,
they hadn't fought or didn't get a long at times,
but I think love was like a big piece in
my upbringing. And so for me and my husband, I'm like,
I want to be in love forever, and for me,
vanity is a piece of that, because I am like,
(31:28):
I want to look good for him, I want to
flirt still.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I want him to want to have sex like I
want that.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
And I feel like if I were frumpy or not
taking care of myself, maybe.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
So these are the conversations that are being had. Yeah,
the fact of the matter is this bullshit idea that
we've been married for fifteen years somehow makes him blind
or you blind. No. Now, remember men and women are
built differently. Women will madly fall in love with someone
because of who they are, their persona. Men will do
the same. But I don't know, it doesn't if you're
(32:00):
gay or even straight. Men are more visual, they have
more muscle, they pee standing up. That were different. And
so this notion that I don't give a fuck, I
don't care, I'm not going he should love me. I
gave birth to his kids. Like this whole attitude doesn't
end well because you can't force someone to be attracted
to you. You can tell them to f off. But instead,
(32:20):
I'm not saying you should kill yourself, but instead you
should make an effort. You should try. And if that
means that you need to lose a little weight or
and by the way, the same as by the guy
needs to you. Guy can't be some fat slob and
not care together. You need to invest in maintaining the visual,
physical cues that go along with the emotionalness psychological. What
(32:45):
happens so often is nobody wants to talk about that.
But old school, old school, they talked about it because
my Russian mother in law said to my wife many
years ago, you gotta look good. He's your husband. You
gotta look good. That would today if you said that,
you'd be arrested. I know you're like, oh you you know.
And so I think that the fact that you were
able to say that and say, listen, I want to
(33:06):
look good to my husband so that he lusts and
desires me in addition to him loving me as a person.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I like flirting, and that's the thing. As soon as
I have like an energy. I think energy is a
big deal. And so when I feel frumpy er, I
feel down, I'm not as nice like I said, and
I can feel him being like, oh, she's being bitchy
right now.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Whatever, God forbid.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
One day we don't make each other happy anymore, we
don't love each other anymore. I still want to be
in my prime and look good.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
So that's another great point. That's a very good point,
which is you don't you don't just let go of
yourself because this person and you were married. You don't
know where life takes you. I have patients, I have,
God forbid. I have patients whose husbands dropped dead at
fifty and they're all of a sudden back on the market.
And now what, I have patients who, unbeknown to them,
they all of a sudden find out their husband cheated
(33:54):
on them. They're back on the market. Now. I'm referring
to it as a female thing, but it could be
the reverse. It could be the guy who all of
a sudden his wife leaves him or drops it or whatever.
My point being is that you want to be your
best version period. You want to be it for yourself.
You want to be it for your kids. You want
to be it for your current and hopefully forever partner.
But I there are people that just throw in the
(34:15):
towel because it's easy. You know. We live in the
casual lifestyle now. Before you had to get it. We
had a formal lifestyle before. Now it's casual. Let me
see here. Do I wear Proder? Do I wear Allah?
I'll take allo? Like do I wear shoes or wear
flip flops? I take flip flops.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Do I do my hair or do I wear it
in a bun and look like it just got back
from the gym, Like no one gives a shit anymore,
I know, And so you get away with sort of
not being it's kind of like it's.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Funny, like I it takes. I have thick hair. I
have a lot of hair.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
My husband, I'm like, I'm in a shower and I'd
like to do my hair today and he's like, where
are you going?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
And I'm like, can I just do my hair? Like
because guess what, I don't have to do it for
three more days? Like this is the lot? This isn't
I have to wash my hair tonight?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You know, And so I'm like gone, and.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It takes an hour to do. Sure, but guess what,
it makes me look good.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And he's like, who you seeing And I'm like, good,
stick keep on your toes.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah I can't. I won't tell you who I'm saying, but.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Exactly, but he's handsome, exactly. It's playful, I mean really.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
And if you don't do that, then it's it's the
beginning of the end. Because every relationship needs some spark, fuel,
some spice, even as time goes on. And I think
physical nature of one's body. Yeah, okay, one day I'll
be seventy. Okay, you look good for a seventy year old.
(35:34):
We're not asking you to look good for a twenty
year like a seven year old.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I'm not trying to look twenty when I'm seventy. I
want to age gracefully.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
But no, but I understand that, and I think it's great.
And I think that the dialogue you have, the verbal
outward conversation, which is I'm okay, being vain, I want
to look good. That whole mantra is the key to
I think a successful partnership.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
And my friend, she was one of our first friends
to get her boots done and it was like she
was I think eighteen, and she was like, anybody that
tells you not to get your boobs done just doesn't
want you to look your best.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And it stuck with me forever.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Oh, there is that, There is that component that you
have friends that are haters.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, I'm like, why wouldn't you want your friend? I
think like everyone should feel and look their best. Like,
I am supportive with whatever you need to do to
get there, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Like, yeah, well there's this whole thing. You know, it'll
be this under it'll be this backhanded. You know, honey,
you look great the way you are. You shouldn't have
to do that for him or whatever. It's it's just
some you know, in reality, if you were able to
actually test them and really put them on a light detector,
it really is about you not wanting me to look
better because you're insecure. I mean, it isn't because you
actually think.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I'm like, everyone should look good, Like, wouldn't that be
would be happier people.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I think it'd be a happier place, that's for sure,
the world. We would have less conflict. Yeah, I agree
with that hundredercent. So you are now three weeks out, Yeah,
what we're gonna do is We're gonna definitely have you
back on, and we're going to have you back on
when you hit your you know, six month mark, and
we're gonna have you wear a cute little sexy tank
top and you can come up here, and I would
love for you to bring your hot husband and you
guys can tell me about the impact, because a breast
(37:07):
dog is a breast dog. It's nothing. It's like getting
a haircut or or or or getting a spray tan.
What matters is the ripple effect of this procedure. I
feel sexy. It increased our intimacy. We this that I
see him doing this. Oh my wife looks that. It's
that what that was for. And so I'd love to
see how the impact of this because you can already
(37:30):
I can see you can see it. But wait till
you actually get to drive the car and be in
the car and wash the car and all that good stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I was gonna say this, you know, after care the
six weeks, I feel bad because I do.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
A lot around the house.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I'm I've got the babies, I'm picking them, and I
can tell Nick's like, when is this over?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Because I'm always like you gotta go get.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Him on that crat. That's good.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Take advantage, you know, And he's just like, he's.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Just take advantage of it. I gave you a six
week call pass. At six weeks, you got to go
live your life, go be So he's going to expect
you to double do make up for what you did
in But I think it'll be exciting to see you
back because you're the type of person and you're you're
as a couple, you'll be the type of people that
will really say what people experience, and that's what we want.
We want authenticity so people can really appreciate what they
(38:17):
can expect from it. So well, we appreciate you coming
on our show and chatting with us, and we're going
to have you back on and again and again because
we're going to be operating on you forever. I know,
it's just going to be. It's just going to we
are are we actually air that. That is one of
our greatest joys is when we have patients. Now I've
been in practice come twenty years, and unlike other things
(38:40):
where the circle is smaller, you did something, you came back.
You did something, you came back. In plastic surgery, it's
often longer. So when I was in my thirties, I
was operating on you at your thirties, and then when
now that I'm in my fifties, I'm operating on those
patients in their fifties, and then I'll be one more
circle in my seventies or sixties. So we are now
starting to really get.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
A full I asked you when I was like, well,
when do I have to get these redone?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
You said in fifty years.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I was like, well, are you going to I need
you to be the one that does it. I'm not
going to get my car service at the same place.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
So don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Right right before I retire, I'll call you. Yeah, my
tremor is getting worse. I would get in now, and
my vision it's a little shot. I'm starting to get
some cataracts. Come on in, girl, No, this is it.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I'm excited. I'm going to bring my mom in because
she's got the next thing.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah, it's exciting. I'm just I really enjoy doing what
I do with patients like you, who make whom because
we are at the mercy of you, right, we are
at the mercy of the patients because when the patients
are awesome. Everyone is happy, the staff, everyone. When the
patients are difficult, because they are difficult people, it's not fun.
(39:51):
It's just not fun. It's just like not enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Like I work in the same type of business where
I have annoying people and really awesome people that make
it worth it every day, and I like going to
work because it doesn't feel like work when people say that,
my god, that's so annoying. But it is fun to
be around like minded, smart people that get it and
are experts in their field. Like you are the expert.
I'm going to trust the expert. You've done the work
(40:16):
I haven't done, and I'm like, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, well that's good. That's why you surround yourself with
excellent people. And you are excellent, and we are grateful
that you trusted us. And we will see you back
here in a few weeks for your reveal and you
can then go, as you said, go go rite, test
test out, the test out the new car. Yes, all right, guys.
Well that's a wrap on plastic surgery and censored as always,
(40:39):
it's a pleasure. We have two parting requests. Number one,
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(41:00):
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want them to know this before they have surgery. Okay,
so that's a wrap on plastic surgery uncensored. As always,
your host, Doctor Raban, I will see you next week.
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