July 23, 2025 • 38 mins
Ever lose the weight, feel proud in your clothes—then look in the mirror and still feel... disappointed?
This week on Plastic Surgery Uncensored, Dr. Rady Rahban sits down with Jessica—a young woman who lost nearly 100 pounds the old-fashioned way (yes, diet and exercise), only to realize her transformation was far from over. In this powerful third installment of her journey, we hear what it’s really like to go from weight loss to skin removal surgery—and to do it all in the public eye.
Jessica opens up about:
✨ The emotional rollercoaster of weight loss nobody talks about
✨ Wearing bikinis, working out, and finally feeling confident again
✨ How sharing her surgery journey online brought both love—and hate
✨ The harsh reality of social media critics and how she silenced the noise
✨ Why thick skin isn’t just about healing—it's about resilience
Whether you're on a weight loss journey yourself, have loose skin you’re self-conscious about, or are just tired of judgment from others who don’t understand your path—this episode is your story too. 💬
Have you ever felt judged for trying to feel better in your own skin? Let us know in the reviews.
🎧 Tap play, share with a friend, and don’t forget to subscribe. The transformation goes beyond the body—and you don’t want to miss it. Let me know if you'd like:
This week on Plastic Surgery Uncensored, Dr. Rady Rahban sits down with Jessica—a young woman who lost nearly 100 pounds the old-fashioned way (yes, diet and exercise), only to realize her transformation was far from over. In this powerful third installment of her journey, we hear what it’s really like to go from weight loss to skin removal surgery—and to do it all in the public eye.
Jessica opens up about:
✨ The emotional rollercoaster of weight loss nobody talks about
✨ Wearing bikinis, working out, and finally feeling confident again
✨ How sharing her surgery journey online brought both love—and hate
✨ The harsh reality of social media critics and how she silenced the noise
✨ Why thick skin isn’t just about healing—it's about resilience
Whether you're on a weight loss journey yourself, have loose skin you’re self-conscious about, or are just tired of judgment from others who don’t understand your path—this episode is your story too. 💬
Have you ever felt judged for trying to feel better in your own skin? Let us know in the reviews.
🎧 Tap play, share with a friend, and don’t forget to subscribe. The transformation goes beyond the body—and you don’t want to miss it. Let me know if you'd like:
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to another episode of Plastic Surgery and censored. I'm
your host, as always, doctor Roddy Raban, and we are
very excited because I feel like this is a three
part series. We're very excited to have our wonderful guest
and patient and now the friends of the practice, Jessica,
who is seven months post top why this is a
(00:28):
three part series of Jessica was here before her surgery,
immediately after her surgery, and now we have the luxury
of having you seven months out. And I think it's
really wonderful and unique to have that perspective because each
phase has its own experience, its own emotion, its own understanding.
(00:49):
Because when you're about to have surgery, you have certain expectations.
When you have surgeries and it's immediate, you have certain expectations.
And now sort of, if you will, you're in sort
of the final chapter, and it's very it'll be interesting
to see how everything shaped up. So, first and foremost,
thank you for coming.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Thank you for having me. I love being here, we.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Love having you. So let's start with let's remind everybody
because they may not have listened to some of the
other episodes. By the way, if you haven't listened to
the episodes. You got to go back. It's like watching
the you know, Star Wars the third episode and not
seeing the first two. You got to see Empire strikes.
I don't know, don't.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
They're actually well, really great. We talked about really good
like weight loss stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Weight loss stuff. So let's give your story in a
short summary. You had a weight loss journey, right, because
everyone who's watching this this is a beautiful young lady
and you're looking going, what the fuck? What could she
have possibly had? She's so young? Oh my god, doctor Bond,
you've gone off the deep end. But you what was
your max weight?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Two thirty something? I can't exactly remember.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Let's let's say into two thirties. And how tall are you?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Probably like five to five?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Okay, so two thirty on a five to five woman
is overweight. Yeah, right? And what do you currently weigh?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh? I have no idea, roughly probably.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So the idea being is you lost about almost one
hundred pounds, right, give or take. And why that's important
is it sets the stage right a younger. It doesn't
matter how young you are. You could be fifteen, you
can be twenty, you can be twenty five. But if
you lose one hundred pounds, you're going to have some
residual issues. And so here you are, a young lady.
You how did you.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Lose the weight working out and eating healthy?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Come on, there's no o zembic wago vi Manjaro. I
think you actually lost the weight right before that craage. Okay,
So actually, while it would have been way easier, the
probability that you'll have you'll be at this weight forever
is tenfold higher since you did it old fashioned diet.
Next sise because you actually change your lifestyle. Not to
(02:52):
suggest if you lose the weight with these drugs it's bad.
It's just riskier that you might regain it obviously if
you ever get off the drug. Anyway, here you are,
you've been overweight your whole life. Being overweight has its
own issues. We talk about that in the episodes. You
lose all the weight, awesome. You go stand in front
of the mirror, you're wearing clothes. To everybody else, you
(03:15):
look amazing because your face snapped back you were young.
Your face looks perfect. But you in private, right in
front of the mirror in the shower, maybe when you're intimate,
maybe when you're in a bathing suit, You're like, whoa,
this is not what I expected.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It kind of sucks because you're working out all the time,
you're doing everything to look good, and then you still
don't look the way you want to look. So it's
it's still rewarding obviously to have lost so much weight
and be healthy and all like the great things, but
it really sucks to be like, oh my god, when
I wear a bikini, like my stomach is flapping. That's
(03:53):
something nobody else will see. And to other people, that's
like the craziest thing in the world that I would
do it, but it's something I see other people don't see.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It really sucks, you know, to work out so hard on.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So that's something we talk about over and over and
over and over again for everyone who's planning to lose weight.
Number one, one hundred percent, you need to do it
right because the benefits are like a thousand and the
downsides are like four. So you're going to lose the weight.
But every time a patient begins on a weight lost journey,
if it's significant, I'm not talking about fifteen twenty pounds.
I'm talking about fifty seventy eighty one hundred pounds, there
(04:27):
will be residual or sequali and you need to be
prepared for that. Now you may just say, okay, well
whatever it is, what it is. You know, I had
issues when I was one hundred two hundred thirty pounds,
and I have issues at one fifty. But I'll take
this no problem, or you can do something about it,
and you should be prepared to know that there is
options and their financial requirements and all those things which
(04:49):
we talked about. So now you happen to be an influencer,
and for those of you who can't are not watching
and listening. I have that in quotes. I personally think
the whole concept is very fascinating, has some pros and
cons or whatever, but it is a currently, it is
a job, and there are people who make a living,
(05:09):
sustain their livelihoods and their families doing social media influencing.
Now yours is lifestyle and brand. You're not an only fans, right,
definitely not right, And you're not in you know, every
other post is you know you torquing or in a
bikini or whatever. You're a young lady who has great
style and you know you're enjoying that aspect of your
(05:32):
life and you're sharing your thoughts with makeup and brands
and clothing and all that. So we love your brand
and we love what you're doing, and that's your career.
So what we wanted to talk about today is what
it's like to undergo weight loss surgery. Wonderful, but as
it applies to being out in the open, and by
that I mean is most people who get surgery, the
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only people that really know anything are their intimate circle,
right their closest friends and their closest family. And some
people don't even and tell them that, but you know,
you're probably not going to get much of anything but
love from your people who around you because you're closest circle.
So you go have surgery, you have a facelift and
those job, a breast dog, a breastlift, whatever you go have,
(06:13):
and people are like either neutral or they tell you
how much they are happy for you. Knew how great
you look. But when you're out in the open and
you're out there and you're exposed, you have to be
prepared for the entire rainbow of experiences and comments and
people's their attitudes towards what you did right. And so
(06:38):
historically people who are out in the public kept their
surgeries private, right, So you were lucky in that, despite
having lost all that weight, you had the areas where
you had your excess skin you could conceal. And I
looked at some of your photos before and frankly, I
(06:59):
can you did a great job of like looking great
and nobody would know. So you could have flown under
the radar, right, you could have come in. Let's just
remind everybody you did a brachioplasty, right, that's removing the
excess in the arms. You did it abdominoplasty, which is
removing the excess hanging on your abdomen. And you did
(07:21):
a breastlift because your breast had settled and lost volume
and sack. Right, Okay, So nobody would have been the wiser.
So one would argue, just do your surgery and move on.
But you chose, And I'll ask you in a second
why you chose that. Hey, I'm going to share my
journey with my followers. So first question is why would
(07:45):
you do that? Why would you expose yourself to as
we're going to talk about the rainbow of comments.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Multiple reasons. One, I literally share everything. This would be
no different for me. Sometimes like I'm too honest and
it comes back and bites me.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But I don't care.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I am who I am, and I don't do things
to impress other people or don't do things because other people.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Want me to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I want to do it, And if you're following me,
then you want to see that. And another reason is
because I share a lot about weight loss and health
and things like that, and a lot of young girls
and maybe even some guys follow me and like may
look at me for.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
As like what they could be like if they want.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
To wait kind of kind of like a role model,
and so if they experience like insecurity with their loose
skin and things like that, I would love for them
to look at me and think, oh, you know, like
it doesn't always have to be that way, or it's
really not that hard, or I just had a really
fun time sharing my experience.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That's awesome. So I personally think that it is the
responsibility of influencers or public facing people to share their
relatively intimate issues because they are benefiting off of the
public's interest in their lives, and historically it's always one sided.
(09:12):
So you look at these I'm just going to use
the general word as celebrities, and they all they do
is put out all the wonderful things in their lives.
And what that does is it creates more sadness, anxiety,
and disappointment in a regular person because they're like, well,
look how lame my life is. Look I'm fighting with
my husband. Oh look my children are having eating disorders.
(09:34):
Oh look I don't look the way he or she does.
And that's bullshit. These people are regular people. I see
them all the time. All of them have the same
issue as everybody else does. And so I think that
if you're going to benefit financially from the common person
quote unquote, then you owe it to them to let
them know that you are a regular person and you're struggling,
(09:54):
and so that actually they can be like, oh wow,
look at that. That person's like me. I do think
that in today's world, transparency has become more valuable, and
I think as a brand, I think that people are
recognizing that, wow, the world is saturated with quote unquote
influencers and celebrities, and that those that tend to do
(10:15):
better are the ones that are more transparent. Because people
are savvy, they're no longer also starstruck as much obviously,
And I think that people and good for you that
share your journeys a are do good by their influencers
and then can help someone because the reality is, yes,
here's a photo of me. I was overweight. Oh what
(10:35):
do you know? Fifty percent of this country's overweight and
I busted my ass. And it's great that you could
share that you were the pre semi glue tie GLP craze. Again,
no problem if you do that. I encourage patients to
lose weight. However, and then wow, I ended up having
all this xcess skin and well, shit, what do I
do with it? Yeah, And so good on you for
(10:56):
sharing that, because I think when we're about to talk
about is most of the comments you got were positive? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It depends if the only time that I get commented
on it is if it's my belly button, okay.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And that's because it's that's the only way people can
tell that I had any work done, if they don't follow.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Me, if it's just like random people and I'm on
there for you.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Page and I'm gonna bikini or my belly button's out, like,
that's the only way they can really tell. So most
of them are negative. And then I have my queens
who write you.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Got your team. So that's what we want to talk about,
because I think this is a really fascinating concept because
at the end of the day, I don't know, I
feel like society is a little bit broken, and I'm
sure it's always been broken, it's not this new concept.
But here you are a young girl who has put
in the time, put in the energy, is putting yourself
out there. When you look at your page, it's like
(11:52):
a classy young girl. You have family, you're elegant. There's
nothing about you that's in any way sallacious or any
anything about your brand that I think is a little bit,
you know, maybe negative. And here you are putting yourself
out there, sharing your journey. And then you do get
your people who are like, good for you, girl, you
look great, you look hot, I'm so proud of I'm
(12:13):
so proud of you, I'm so happy for you, etc.
Which is what I would expect. And then you get
this sort of bunch of comments that are negative and
sort of hurtful and what have you. And I got
to give you credit, you handle those incredibly well. But
there's all these comments that I because I'll you know,
occasionally you'll tag me and I'll be on there and
I'll be always your championing you because because at the
(12:36):
end of the day, I'm so happy for you. Because
the only thing that matters, let's strip it all away,
is are you happier today than you were before you
did your surgery? If the answer is yes, I'm happier
the end, this was all good. Excuse me, fuck everybody.
I don't care because my response, my goal or my
(12:57):
responsibility is to you and my hope so that if
I do something to you or someone that you say
to me, hey, you know what, this was well worth it.
The exchange was worth it, and I'm happier, which we've
talked about on numerous occasion, which you are.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yes, I'm very happy.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But so what do you think, because this is the
key part. What do you think is the reason as
a young person who's in this what what what generation
are you? Gen q Z, gen Z? Okay, I thought
you were Gen W.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I don't know every day, I don't even know what
generations are after me.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, but well you're you're really the main generation right now? Okay,
So this Gen Z generation and by the way, it's
not just gen z that these negative comments are But
as a young person who is in the midst, you
grew up in this social media world, what do you
think is the reason why there's you get the hateful comments.
So let's let's speculate on that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I think social media gives is really nice for in
a really positive way, in a really negative way. Positively,
you can look at people get in spo have fun,
all the great things.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And for some people.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It's a great thing that if they feel insecure about something,
they can go take that out on somebody else with
zero consequences. Social media gives people a platform. Two gives
people somewhere.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
To go to take out like their anger with literally
no consequences. What is somebody gonna like do to you?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
You would never the thing sometimes people say to me,
they would never say, like to my face, it's really
great that I was blessed with this carelessness.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I really careless.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Like sometimes I'll see crazy comments. It makes me laugh,
even if it annoys me. I'll go on their page.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's nobody successful, nobody I would want to be.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Like, long story short, they're usually respectfully like not healthy looking. Sure,
so I'm not gonna if I don't like your style.
I'm not going to ask you if you like my outfit.
So it really doesn't bother me.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Why do I think they do it because it makes
them feel good. Oh let me hurt your feelings, because
I wish I could have done that.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah. No, And I think that's actually very well said.
I do think it comes from some of it is
from it's twofold. One is from anger from within, and
the other is envy. Right, So I think it's you
said it beautifully. I think when you go And it's
funny because my wife is My wife is a very
unbashful and unfiltered person. That's who she is, and like you,
(15:28):
and her whole her whole messaging is always about health
and lifestyle. She suffered a lot with her own illnesses,
her own spine surgeries. You know, we now have children.
She's very conscientious about how we raise our children. So
she's verbal about that aspect. And she gets so much
love and she gets a ton of hate, which is
just mind boggling to me, but it is what it is.
(15:49):
And and and similarly, I think, but I think what
you have that is really unique is you really when
people say, oh, I don't care but if you were
at a way to test it, like if you've got
it one of those like lie detecting things, you care,
Like I would care? Why would I care? Because I'm
just a sensitive person. I'd be combative. I'd be like,
what what did you say? Like, because that's just who
(16:12):
I am, Like, I can't undo it, But you really
genuinely don't care.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think the reason why I don't care is because
I love it. So if I love it, why do
I care if you don't like it?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
No, but I think it's all set. It's makes total sense,
Like who are you? Who are you to change my opinion?
But we all are real humans. And if I'm walking
down the street and someone's like you're ugly or something,
you can't tell me. These things for most people don't
impact them. So you're very blessed that you have that
notion in you, which is you. It actually comes from confidence, right,
because you're so confident. It's like, wait, what, I.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Actually can't say I was blessed with that. I worked
really hard on that.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Okay, yeah, well good on you, because I think it's
a very important attribute in life. Thank you, because at
the end of the day, if you choose to do
this in your career, you're going to get a lot
of comments because what you signed up for, you said
for all the good and all the bad. And if
you're lucky enough that you don't have your sensor is
very dull, and you don't get overstimulated by this, you'll
(17:10):
be successful because you'll take in all the good and
you'll just kind of ignore all the bad. So I
do think that the people who are commenting are normally unhappy,
and when you click into their profiles, because I always
do whatever I'm scrolling through right when I'm looking at
something that I think is positive, whatever it is. It
could be a car, it could be political, and then
(17:31):
there's always negative hate. I'm almost clicking in whenever I click.
And I would say if somebody did a study, like
of Stanford did a study, you would find that the
majority of them are as you said, First of all,
their ghost accounts like they never are, they're almost always
zero post, they're always blocked, they almost always have you know,
they're following three million people and have never posted or
(17:53):
contributed ever, because of course they are keyboard warriors. And
which is what you said, which is they are people
that are small in life, and they in real life
would never have the gall the guts, or the capacity
or the ability to behave the way they do. But
behind this screen they can be tyrants, and they can
(18:15):
be vindictive and malicious and hurt people's feelings because seldom
are their comments of any any value. In other words,
you and I could disagree politically, no problem, that's what
that's for. But for me to just come out and
be like, you look ugly, your shirt is ugly? What's
wrong with your lips? Like what even if you don't
(18:39):
like it? Like, how is that of any benefit to
anyone other than just sheer hate? And so I think
that's interesting. When I look at their profiles, there are
always these nobody's and when, on occasion you can actually
see who they are, you're flabbergasted. You're like, wow, you
have forty seven cats. Yeah, you have eight hundred and
forty pictures of yourself at the same angle, selfie, you
(19:03):
have no friends? Do you work? Do you do it?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh wow, you look, Oh that's you eating a cheeseburger,
smoking a cigarette with a can of coke there, Like
it's always these people who are the ones who are
throwing shade exactly right. And as you said, it's not like, oh,
it's some super uber successful person, because that uber successful
person usually wouldn't at least no, I'm not saying they
(19:29):
don't have hate. They usually won't get on a keyboard
and start verbalizing, definitely right. So I think the part
about it that's really fascinating is when you have transformative surgery,
because that's what I consider plastic surgery, and you share
that transformative surgery with the world, it's really interesting. You
would think it would always be positive. But what I
(19:51):
wanted to talk about and why I'm glad that you
came on, is because you have the experiment of actually
putting it out there, and as expected, you get positive,
but you get all this negative. And I think the
other part is envy, because you know, our nature as
humans is to tear down what we don't have, or
tear down what we can't have, or tear down what
(20:13):
we want. And you know, it's always comments on plastic
surgery is like I would never I can't believe you
did what And you know, in secret conversations they're like,
oh God, I really hate I wish I could do this.
And so I just think it's a global dialogue about
a number one. If you do something, you have to
(20:35):
do it for yourself too. You have to have the
resilience to understand that people will make comments that are
hurtful and that you know you should as you do
sort of be able to be like, well, whatever, I mean,
that is what it is overall. Now that you're seven
months out, So we talked before you add surgery and
excitement of like I can't believe that I'm about to
(20:56):
have surgery. We talked how far out were you when
we did Your was like four or five? Six weeks?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I think, like I think six weeks?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Okay, yeah, And here you are now seven months out.
Things are still healing, things are not perfect all of it,
but by all intensive purposes. You're out and about your exercising,
you're in bikinis, you're going about, you're living your life.
So let's ask a few questions because it's sometimes what
(21:25):
we anticipate in life doesn't turn out to be what
it turns out in reality. Right Like perfect example, you
meet someone, you have all these expectations, you think they're
going to be one way, and when the dust settles,
they turn out to be nothing like you had anticipated.
That's a perfect example. So let's talk about your journey
in terms of what you expected, what you didn't expect,
(21:46):
and how you feel overall. So is this what you
had anticipated your life would feel like? Having change of
things that were made you insecure.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I think I was so.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
By how much I was annoyed by the loose skin
that I didn't really think about how I was going
to feel day to day.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I was just like, I can't wait every time I'd
wear a bikini, Oh, this annoys me. I can't wait
to sit down and like not have my flap shrink.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I think what was what I was most excited for
is the day that I decided I really want to
do this. Was I was working out and my trainer
had took a video of me running and my skin
was just going from side to side, like completely.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Ruined my vibe.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I was so annoyed about it, and so the first
time I ran and there was a video that.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I was like, damn, this feels so good.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
It feels so good to work out and see my
abs and see them like with no skin. It feels
so good to work out my arms and see like
toning with again no skin, it feels so good to
wear like backless dresses with no problems, and I could
wear whatever I want.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I could literally And then now that.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
It's summer, bikinis are so much more fun and then
I feel great. Something I didn't really think about before
was the swelling. You're like, oh, yeah, I'm going to
be swollen, like it's a bruise or something. But my
stomach was what really what I was really noticing.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
It's so swollen. You touch it and you can literally
like feel the water almost right.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, well, it's it's a DMA. It's swelling, and most
of swelling is fluid retention. And I think at some
point mid while you were healing, you know, you were
having a little bit of a challenge with your arms, right,
and they were red and they were this, and you
were very worried and you were very conscientious patient and
that you know, you want it to be on it. Hey,
doctor Bunn, I think this is wrong, which is which
(23:44):
which we prefer you doing that then showing up in
our office, you know, a year later, like, hey, was
this a problem? Yeah? Right? But but but what it
was what I think you learned was the healing process
is healing process, So.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I think I didn't really I still don't really like
really can't really fathom that I got surgery on half
of my body and it was a pretty intensive surgery.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
No, like it was a long surchy yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And so after the six weeks, I'm like, fabulous, I
can do whatever I want. I can lift whatever I want,
as if.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I didn't just get like a haircut or something like,
as if I literally just went and got a haircut,
and then I did a boxing class with my trainer, which.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Like you got to think about it, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yes, but we tell you, with all fairness, I tell
you get going right, because you can get going. Nothing
happened to you. You didn't ruin anything, nothing tour, nothing
went terribly wrong, but naturally your body reacted like oh shit,
what did you just do? And it swelled and it's
perfectly fine. But you weren't ready for that exactly. It's like, oh,
(24:52):
four steps back, well, what's going on? And so on
and so forth, which is really interesting because I think
even though we tell you, you just don't know till you're there.
Like everyone's like, oh, raising a child, it's going to
be difficult. You're like yeah, yeah, it'll be difficult. Then
you have a child, you're like, what the no one
ever told me this? You're like, no, no, we told
you this, but you just have to be there to
get it. So I think that you really comprehended very
(25:15):
well that while your body is amazing and it's an
incredible machine, it is still recovering. And I guarantee you
now that you're at seven months, it's on the downhill
because just by biology, the first six months is uphill, swelling, itchy, tingling,
you know, things like that, numbness, and then the seven
(25:37):
months and on it's downhill. So what you're gonna notice
here on out is every couple of months you're gonna
be like, WHOA, that's better, WHOA that feels better, WHOA
that looks better? Because now you hit the peak of healing.
Doesn't matter if you had your breast done, doesn't matter,
if you had your nose done, doesn't matter, if you
had your gall bladder remove. You hit your peak. And
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then if things are done correctly, that's the caveat. From
six months to twelve months, to eighteen months to twenty
four months, it should be incremental improvement every few months,
and it should be appreciable. You should be like, WHOA,
that is way better than even at seven months, and
I think you're gonna start seeing that develop more and more.
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So what do you think is your favorite part of
having done the surgery. I'm assuming it's the being able
to wear anything you want without without having to be like,
oh fuck, I got to hide this. Wait, how am
I going to wear that? Right? Would you say? Because
that's what you're all about fashion?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Right, There's two things, wearing whatever I want and not
being concerned about the way anything looks, and working out
working out?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah? Yeah, I think since you got lost the weight
doing diet and exercise. As someone who exercises a lot
and used to do triathlons, the number one enjoyment of
working out after the endorphins is the physical response to
your body. Does you actually do something and then you
go in the mirror You're like, holy.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Shit, exactly, that looks better.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And when you work out and work out and work
out and work out and you see nothing crickets, zero
muscle mass, nothing because the skin envelope is concealing it.
It's very deflating. Yes, it very so for people who
lose weight and don't do it by exercise. They don't
really feel that as much as people who really are
(27:28):
into physical attributes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, my appearance is very important.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
To me, so yeah, yeah, and it should be. Yeah.
Vanity is We've had We had a whole, had a whole,
had a whole podcast on vanity, the definition, the concepts,
how it's sort of misunderstand and misconstrued. Some of the
most successful people people who care so much about their
appearance because their appearance is a reflection of how they
see themselves and the way they love themselves, and they
want to put their best self forward. I'm not talking
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about vain to the point that you lose yourself in
your vanity, but you your vaineness is keeping you at
your your at your cutting edge. Was there anything about
the surgery that was disappointing? Like a fuck, it's worth it.
I would have done it again, but like, I didn't
expect this, or had I known, or maybe someone should know?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Was there?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You know me, I'm not about sugarcoating anything, So you know,
I think the surgeries that we do globally, otherwise we
wouldn't do them right. People were like, oh my god, guys,
don't do this like you'd be at eight million reviews
that are like, don't don't do the surgery. So obviously
it's beneficial, but was there something in you in your
mind that you're like, didn't you think people should really
(28:39):
know because it was like this, you got to be
ready for this because this is going to be not
what I not what you anticipated, or it's an exchange.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I hate to say this because then it just sounds like, oh, no,
everything was perfect, But really no, it's I wanted it
so badly, and I I prolonged the surgery for like
a year because two reasons. I'm so scared, like a
bad belly button. I almost didn't do this because of the.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Belly button, sure, and also because oh my goodness, I
lost my train that way.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Your parents, No, was the other reason that you didn't
do it. You were afraid to do it.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I didn't do it, oh, because I just I was like,
if it's going to turn out?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
What was your question?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
My question was was there something, oh that I don't
like that you thought? Listen, the whole surgery was amazing.
I do it today and I do it over again
in a minute, but this part wasn't so great or
had I known this, or people should realize yeah, it's
in exchange or was there something that And I was
going to answer just before you say, is this This
is the reason why candidacy is important. Let me explain
(29:43):
something to you. If I operate on someone that is
super excited, super eager, super knowledgeable, and I do the
surgery and we crush it, they will be over the mood.
If I do the surgery and someone that's not that knowledgeable,
sort of decided last minute it's sort of borderline candidate,
and I crush it, they may or may not be happy. Right,
(30:05):
So who you operate on is the biggest predictor of success,
not necessarily the surgery itself. And you were the prime candidate, young, healthy,
earned it couldn't circumvent it. Like let's say you didn't
do the surgery, so well, then great, you just have
loose skin forever, Like it's not going to go away.
(30:27):
It only gets worse, like, oh now I'm forty well
that skins now twelve percent worse. So back to you,
what were you going to say, was.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I wasn't going to do it because I was like
I was so afraid that I wasn't going to like it, or.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I wasn't that knowledgeable. To be honest, I was just
very excited.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
And before I was like, if it's not going to
be perfect, I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It has to be absolutely.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You're definitely a picky like you're you're a particular person
for sure.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
But before, after our consultation and everything, I was very confident.
I still wanted In my mind, I was like, I
really wanted to be perfect because I did love my
body before the surgery.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Although I had insecurities about it, I still loved it.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
And I was like, if it's not going to be
the way I want envision it to be, I'd rather
not do it. Sure, But I before the surgery a
few months, I really like sat down with myself and
I was like, I need to drop crazy expectations because
although you're an incredible surgeon, you're only human, right we
might not you might not know when I'm envisioning, or
I might not have explained it that well.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
So I can't have perfect expectations.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
And so I really dropped that, and I like really
sat with the fact that I was confident I picked
a good surgeon and it was going to turn out well.
And I tried to explain how like, what I do
want and what I don't want as best as I could.
And I think dropping the crazy expectations was a big
reason why I really love everything now.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And I think, and again, bravo to you. I think
that your process from A to Z, and I can't
say this for every patient was very textbook. And as
a result, what that leads to is a very happy
patient in whom the surgery was massively beneficial. Are there
scars everyone wants to know? Of course there are scars.
(32:16):
Of course they're healing. Of course they're a trade off.
Of Course they're not going to be perfect. Of course
they're visible, but relatively speaking, And of course they're early.
And at some point i'll see you and you'll be fifty,
and I'll be like dead, and you'll show up and
I'll be like, wow, your scars have faded beautifully. But
(32:38):
it is the trade off. There's no free lunch. But
I think if the other reasons you're doing it for
blah bah blah blah blah blah, muscle visibility, oh tone, clothing,
this intimacy, if all those things are pluses, then the
trade off in your mind will be, oh wow, this
was a huge win.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I didn't expect of scars to be so so great
and so unvisible, like people sometimes ask me, I thought
you did your arms, Like what happened to your scar?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It's so it's such in a perfect spot that you
can't see it. But even if it was visible, I'm okay,
I'd rather have one a few scars than my skin.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah. So that's why I said to your you're the
perfect cant. Yeah. But that's that again, is why candidacy
so critical. You Literally, if I operated to the exact
same surgery in a different patient, we might be in
a lawsuit like, oh this thing here, the drain site there.
It's it's really who you're operating on because you can
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execute and I've been doing this now twenty years, and
you can execute and with all your intent and have
a great outcome, and just the person doesn't receive it.
It's just not received. You know, you're again, I'm painting
you a painting. You wake up and I'm handing you
a painting, and you might be like, this is the
ugliest painting I've ever seen in my life. It's unlikely,
but I'm saying it can so you know, I think
the mesh between you and I was very, very good
(34:03):
at the end of the day, and I'm just happy
for you, and I'm glad that you've taken whatever we've
given you and you've multiplied it right, because at the
end of the day, this is about you taking this
surgery and as a result, making yourself a better person,
excelling your career and all those things. So I just
thought it was very interesting about Mostly the key to
(34:25):
me was all the negative comments that I think are
out there, and I think you are embodying the right
attitude towards if you do plastic surgery, you do it
for yourself. And while you would assume that people would
be happy for you and love you, you can assume
that there will be people who are very unhappy and
(34:46):
they will lash out. And the very key is for
you to have a nice thick armor and recognize that
this is about them and not about you, and not
allow it to change the way you perceive your own
body and your own decision making whatever. And you've done
an excellent job of that, and I think that was
(35:06):
you know, you explained it very well. And for other
people who are going out there and wanting to do things,
because I get a lot of times you're out there completely,
but others people are like, I don't even want my
cousins to know. I don't want my sister to know.
I don't want my brother to know. I don't want
my husband to know. And I'm thinking to myself, what
why are you ashamed? Like I think if God forbid,
(35:29):
someone's a prostitute or someone stealing or then you'd be like, oh,
I don't want anyone know, because that's something you'd be
shameful about. If you're doing plastic surgery and you are
so worried about how people will perceive you, then you're
not ready. Something is not right in that equation. You
don't need to be a public figure, but the people
(35:50):
that are close to you, you shouldn't be afraid of
them finding out. If anything, I'm the type of person
as are you, that I'd be like, oh my god,
what happened in your nose?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
This?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Oh I did my nose? Oh you have no idea
how ugly this thing was before like hallelujah. Like I
would be as you know, as Tom Cruise. I'd get
on a rooftop and screamed like because I paid money,
went out of my way, did this, and I'm excited
about it. And the last thing you're going to do
is shit on my parade, and I'm going to voice
(36:22):
my joy. Whereas people sometimes come about it and we
like talk about photo consents or whatever, and they're like, no,
I don't want anyone to know. Oh, I don't want
anyone to see it. Oh I'm not going to tell anybody,
And they all the power to you. But I feel
like the healthiest way to go about plastic surgery is
that you're so excited that you take out a billboard
at the super Bowl be like yeah, mother efforts, look
(36:43):
at me.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Right, That to me is like the epitome or the
top of the totem pole of plastic surgery journeys.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Right Yeah, I would say.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I feel like, if you decide to do something, then
you should be doing it with confidence and who cares
if people find out.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
It's just like that's how I always feel about it
because I'm always listen. I always want everyone's photo consents
because I'm confident about the surgeries. Right, I think your
surgery is going to be a home run. Like I
assume that every surgery I do is number one on
our gallery. My mentality is nothing shy of a plus
or we're not going to do it. So I'm always
asking patients for their consents, whether it's their face or whatever.
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And you be shocked as to how much resistance I get.
And it always surprises me, and I always have a
conversation with them about it, but ultimately it's their prerogative.
And I would think to myself like, hell, yeah, shit,
I bought this Berkin that Bugatti outside, Yeah, that's mine, Like,
I'm very excited about it. So at any rate, well
that's a wrap. The next time we see you, you know,
(37:41):
maybe you'll be a superstar. Don't forget about it's always
little people.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Never you guys are superstars.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
And yeah, and I hope that people enjoyed your journey.
I hope people were appreciative of your transparency. And most
of all, we're all happy for you.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Thank you so much, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
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Plastic Surgery Uncensored
Welcome to another episode of Plastic Surgery and censored. I'm
your host, as always, doctor Roddy Raban, and we are
very excited because I feel like this is a three
part series. We're very excited to have our wonderful guest
and patient and now the friends of the practice, Jessica,
who is seven months post top why this is a
(00:28):
three part series of Jessica was here before her surgery,
immediately after her surgery, and now we have the luxury
of having you seven months out. And I think it's
really wonderful and unique to have that perspective because each
phase has its own experience, its own emotion, its own understanding.
(00:49):
Because when you're about to have surgery, you have certain expectations.
When you have surgeries and it's immediate, you have certain expectations.
And now sort of, if you will, you're in sort
of the final chapter, and it's very it'll be interesting
to see how everything shaped up. So, first and foremost,
thank you for coming.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Thank you for having me. I love being here, we.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Love having you. So let's start with let's remind everybody
because they may not have listened to some of the
other episodes. By the way, if you haven't listened to
the episodes. You got to go back. It's like watching
the you know, Star Wars the third episode and not
seeing the first two. You got to see Empire strikes.
I don't know, don't.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
They're actually well, really great. We talked about really good
like weight loss stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Weight loss stuff. So let's give your story in a
short summary. You had a weight loss journey, right, because
everyone who's watching this this is a beautiful young lady
and you're looking going, what the fuck? What could she
have possibly had? She's so young? Oh my god, doctor Bond,
you've gone off the deep end. But you what was
your max weight?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Two thirty something? I can't exactly remember.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Let's let's say into two thirties. And how tall are you?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Probably like five to five?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Okay, so two thirty on a five to five woman
is overweight. Yeah, right? And what do you currently weigh?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh? I have no idea, roughly probably.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So the idea being is you lost about almost one
hundred pounds, right, give or take. And why that's important
is it sets the stage right a younger. It doesn't
matter how young you are. You could be fifteen, you
can be twenty, you can be twenty five. But if
you lose one hundred pounds, you're going to have some
residual issues. And so here you are, a young lady.
You how did you.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Lose the weight working out and eating healthy?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Come on, there's no o zembic wago vi Manjaro. I
think you actually lost the weight right before that craage. Okay,
So actually, while it would have been way easier, the
probability that you'll have you'll be at this weight forever
is tenfold higher since you did it old fashioned diet.
Next sise because you actually change your lifestyle. Not to
(02:52):
suggest if you lose the weight with these drugs it's bad.
It's just riskier that you might regain it obviously if
you ever get off the drug. Anyway, here you are,
you've been overweight your whole life. Being overweight has its
own issues. We talk about that in the episodes. You
lose all the weight, awesome. You go stand in front
of the mirror, you're wearing clothes. To everybody else, you
(03:15):
look amazing because your face snapped back you were young.
Your face looks perfect. But you in private, right in
front of the mirror in the shower, maybe when you're intimate,
maybe when you're in a bathing suit, You're like, whoa,
this is not what I expected.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It kind of sucks because you're working out all the time,
you're doing everything to look good, and then you still
don't look the way you want to look. So it's
it's still rewarding obviously to have lost so much weight
and be healthy and all like the great things, but
it really sucks to be like, oh my god, when
I wear a bikini, like my stomach is flapping. That's
(03:53):
something nobody else will see. And to other people, that's
like the craziest thing in the world that I would
do it, but it's something I see other people don't see.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It really sucks, you know, to work out so hard on.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So that's something we talk about over and over and
over and over again for everyone who's planning to lose weight.
Number one, one hundred percent, you need to do it
right because the benefits are like a thousand and the
downsides are like four. So you're going to lose the weight.
But every time a patient begins on a weight lost journey,
if it's significant, I'm not talking about fifteen twenty pounds.
I'm talking about fifty seventy eighty one hundred pounds, there
(04:27):
will be residual or sequali and you need to be
prepared for that. Now you may just say, okay, well
whatever it is, what it is. You know, I had
issues when I was one hundred two hundred thirty pounds,
and I have issues at one fifty. But I'll take
this no problem, or you can do something about it,
and you should be prepared to know that there is
options and their financial requirements and all those things which
(04:49):
we talked about. So now you happen to be an influencer,
and for those of you who can't are not watching
and listening. I have that in quotes. I personally think
the whole concept is very fascinating, has some pros and
cons or whatever, but it is a currently, it is
a job, and there are people who make a living,
(05:09):
sustain their livelihoods and their families doing social media influencing.
Now yours is lifestyle and brand. You're not an only fans, right,
definitely not right, And you're not in you know, every
other post is you know you torquing or in a
bikini or whatever. You're a young lady who has great
style and you know you're enjoying that aspect of your
(05:32):
life and you're sharing your thoughts with makeup and brands
and clothing and all that. So we love your brand
and we love what you're doing, and that's your career.
So what we wanted to talk about today is what
it's like to undergo weight loss surgery. Wonderful, but as
it applies to being out in the open, and by
that I mean is most people who get surgery, the
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only people that really know anything are their intimate circle,
right their closest friends and their closest family. And some
people don't even and tell them that, but you know,
you're probably not going to get much of anything but
love from your people who around you because you're closest circle.
So you go have surgery, you have a facelift and
those job, a breast dog, a breastlift, whatever you go have,
(06:13):
and people are like either neutral or they tell you
how much they are happy for you. Knew how great
you look. But when you're out in the open and
you're out there and you're exposed, you have to be
prepared for the entire rainbow of experiences and comments and
people's their attitudes towards what you did right. And so
(06:38):
historically people who are out in the public kept their
surgeries private, right, So you were lucky in that, despite
having lost all that weight, you had the areas where
you had your excess skin you could conceal. And I
looked at some of your photos before and frankly, I
(06:59):
can you did a great job of like looking great
and nobody would know. So you could have flown under
the radar, right, you could have come in. Let's just
remind everybody you did a brachioplasty, right, that's removing the
excess in the arms. You did it abdominoplasty, which is
removing the excess hanging on your abdomen. And you did
(07:21):
a breastlift because your breast had settled and lost volume
and sack. Right, Okay, So nobody would have been the wiser.
So one would argue, just do your surgery and move on.
But you chose, And I'll ask you in a second
why you chose that. Hey, I'm going to share my
journey with my followers. So first question is why would
(07:45):
you do that? Why would you expose yourself to as
we're going to talk about the rainbow of comments.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Multiple reasons. One, I literally share everything. This would be
no different for me. Sometimes like I'm too honest and
it comes back and bites me.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But I don't care.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I am who I am, and I don't do things
to impress other people or don't do things because other people.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Want me to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I want to do it, And if you're following me,
then you want to see that. And another reason is
because I share a lot about weight loss and health
and things like that, and a lot of young girls
and maybe even some guys follow me and like may
look at me for.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
As like what they could be like if they want.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
To wait kind of kind of like a role model,
and so if they experience like insecurity with their loose
skin and things like that, I would love for them
to look at me and think, oh, you know, like
it doesn't always have to be that way, or it's
really not that hard, or I just had a really
fun time sharing my experience.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That's awesome. So I personally think that it is the
responsibility of influencers or public facing people to share their
relatively intimate issues because they are benefiting off of the
public's interest in their lives, and historically it's always one sided.
(09:12):
So you look at these I'm just going to use
the general word as celebrities, and they all they do
is put out all the wonderful things in their lives.
And what that does is it creates more sadness, anxiety,
and disappointment in a regular person because they're like, well,
look how lame my life is. Look I'm fighting with
my husband. Oh look my children are having eating disorders.
(09:34):
Oh look I don't look the way he or she does.
And that's bullshit. These people are regular people. I see
them all the time. All of them have the same
issue as everybody else does. And so I think that
if you're going to benefit financially from the common person
quote unquote, then you owe it to them to let
them know that you are a regular person and you're struggling,
(09:54):
and so that actually they can be like, oh wow,
look at that. That person's like me. I do think
that in today's world, transparency has become more valuable, and
I think as a brand, I think that people are
recognizing that, wow, the world is saturated with quote unquote
influencers and celebrities, and that those that tend to do
(10:15):
better are the ones that are more transparent. Because people
are savvy, they're no longer also starstruck as much obviously,
And I think that people and good for you that
share your journeys a are do good by their influencers
and then can help someone because the reality is, yes,
here's a photo of me. I was overweight. Oh what
(10:35):
do you know? Fifty percent of this country's overweight and
I busted my ass. And it's great that you could
share that you were the pre semi glue tie GLP craze. Again,
no problem if you do that. I encourage patients to
lose weight. However, and then wow, I ended up having
all this xcess skin and well, shit, what do I
do with it? Yeah, And so good on you for
(10:56):
sharing that, because I think when we're about to talk
about is most of the comments you got were positive? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It depends if the only time that I get commented
on it is if it's my belly button, okay.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And that's because it's that's the only way people can
tell that I had any work done, if they don't follow.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Me, if it's just like random people and I'm on
there for you.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Page and I'm gonna bikini or my belly button's out, like,
that's the only way they can really tell. So most
of them are negative. And then I have my queens
who write you.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Got your team. So that's what we want to talk about,
because I think this is a really fascinating concept because
at the end of the day, I don't know, I
feel like society is a little bit broken, and I'm
sure it's always been broken, it's not this new concept.
But here you are a young girl who has put
in the time, put in the energy, is putting yourself
out there. When you look at your page, it's like
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a classy young girl. You have family, you're elegant. There's
nothing about you that's in any way sallacious or any
anything about your brand that I think is a little bit,
you know, maybe negative. And here you are putting yourself
out there, sharing your journey. And then you do get
your people who are like, good for you, girl, you
look great, you look hot, I'm so proud of I'm
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so proud of you, I'm so happy for you, etc.
Which is what I would expect. And then you get
this sort of bunch of comments that are negative and
sort of hurtful and what have you. And I got
to give you credit, you handle those incredibly well. But
there's all these comments that I because I'll you know,
occasionally you'll tag me and I'll be on there and
I'll be always your championing you because because at the
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end of the day, I'm so happy for you. Because
the only thing that matters, let's strip it all away,
is are you happier today than you were before you
did your surgery? If the answer is yes, I'm happier
the end, this was all good. Excuse me, fuck everybody.
I don't care because my response, my goal or my
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responsibility is to you and my hope so that if
I do something to you or someone that you say
to me, hey, you know what, this was well worth it.
The exchange was worth it, and I'm happier, which we've
talked about on numerous occasion, which you are.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yes, I'm very happy.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But so what do you think, because this is the
key part. What do you think is the reason as
a young person who's in this what what what generation
are you? Gen q Z, gen Z? Okay, I thought
you were Gen W.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I don't know every day, I don't even know what
generations are after me.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, but well you're you're really the main generation right now? Okay,
So this Gen Z generation and by the way, it's
not just gen z that these negative comments are But
as a young person who is in the midst, you
grew up in this social media world, what do you
think is the reason why there's you get the hateful comments.
So let's let's speculate on that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I think social media gives is really nice for in
a really positive way, in a really negative way. Positively,
you can look at people get in spo have fun,
all the great things.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And for some people.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It's a great thing that if they feel insecure about something,
they can go take that out on somebody else with
zero consequences. Social media gives people a platform. Two gives
people somewhere.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
To go to take out like their anger with literally
no consequences. What is somebody gonna like do to you?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
You would never the thing sometimes people say to me,
they would never say, like to my face, it's really
great that I was blessed with this carelessness.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I really careless.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Like sometimes I'll see crazy comments. It makes me laugh,
even if it annoys me. I'll go on their page.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's nobody successful, nobody I would want to be.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Like, long story short, they're usually respectfully like not healthy looking. Sure,
so I'm not gonna if I don't like your style.
I'm not going to ask you if you like my outfit.
So it really doesn't bother me.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Why do I think they do it because it makes
them feel good. Oh let me hurt your feelings, because
I wish I could have done that.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah. No, And I think that's actually very well said.
I do think it comes from some of it is
from it's twofold. One is from anger from within, and
the other is envy. Right, So I think it's you
said it beautifully. I think when you go And it's
funny because my wife is My wife is a very
unbashful and unfiltered person. That's who she is, and like you,
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and her whole her whole messaging is always about health
and lifestyle. She suffered a lot with her own illnesses,
her own spine surgeries. You know, we now have children.
She's very conscientious about how we raise our children. So
she's verbal about that aspect. And she gets so much
love and she gets a ton of hate, which is
just mind boggling to me, but it is what it is.
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And and and similarly, I think, but I think what
you have that is really unique is you really when
people say, oh, I don't care but if you were
at a way to test it, like if you've got
it one of those like lie detecting things, you care,
Like I would care? Why would I care? Because I'm
just a sensitive person. I'd be combative. I'd be like,
what what did you say? Like, because that's just who
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I am, Like, I can't undo it, But you really
genuinely don't care.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think the reason why I don't care is because
I love it. So if I love it, why do
I care if you don't like it?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
No, but I think it's all set. It's makes total sense,
Like who are you? Who are you to change my opinion?
But we all are real humans. And if I'm walking
down the street and someone's like you're ugly or something,
you can't tell me. These things for most people don't
impact them. So you're very blessed that you have that
notion in you, which is you. It actually comes from confidence, right,
because you're so confident. It's like, wait, what, I.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Actually can't say I was blessed with that. I worked
really hard on that.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Okay, yeah, well good on you, because I think it's
a very important attribute in life. Thank you, because at
the end of the day, if you choose to do
this in your career, you're going to get a lot
of comments because what you signed up for, you said
for all the good and all the bad. And if
you're lucky enough that you don't have your sensor is
very dull, and you don't get overstimulated by this, you'll
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be successful because you'll take in all the good and
you'll just kind of ignore all the bad. So I
do think that the people who are commenting are normally unhappy,
and when you click into their profiles, because I always
do whatever I'm scrolling through right when I'm looking at
something that I think is positive, whatever it is. It
could be a car, it could be political, and then
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there's always negative hate. I'm almost clicking in whenever I click.
And I would say if somebody did a study, like
of Stanford did a study, you would find that the
majority of them are as you said, First of all,
their ghost accounts like they never are, they're almost always
zero post, they're always blocked, they almost always have you know,
they're following three million people and have never posted or
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contributed ever, because of course they are keyboard warriors. And
which is what you said, which is they are people
that are small in life, and they in real life
would never have the gall the guts, or the capacity
or the ability to behave the way they do. But
behind this screen they can be tyrants, and they can
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be vindictive and malicious and hurt people's feelings because seldom
are their comments of any any value. In other words,
you and I could disagree politically, no problem, that's what
that's for. But for me to just come out and
be like, you look ugly, your shirt is ugly? What's
wrong with your lips? Like what even if you don't
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like it? Like, how is that of any benefit to
anyone other than just sheer hate? And so I think
that's interesting. When I look at their profiles, there are
always these nobody's and when, on occasion you can actually
see who they are, you're flabbergasted. You're like, wow, you
have forty seven cats. Yeah, you have eight hundred and
forty pictures of yourself at the same angle, selfie, you
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have no friends? Do you work? Do you do it?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh wow, you look, Oh that's you eating a cheeseburger,
smoking a cigarette with a can of coke there, Like
it's always these people who are the ones who are
throwing shade exactly right. And as you said, it's not like, oh,
it's some super uber successful person, because that uber successful
person usually wouldn't at least no, I'm not saying they
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don't have hate. They usually won't get on a keyboard
and start verbalizing, definitely right. So I think the part
about it that's really fascinating is when you have transformative surgery,
because that's what I consider plastic surgery, and you share
that transformative surgery with the world, it's really interesting. You
would think it would always be positive. But what I
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wanted to talk about and why I'm glad that you
came on, is because you have the experiment of actually
putting it out there, and as expected, you get positive,
but you get all this negative. And I think the
other part is envy, because you know, our nature as
humans is to tear down what we don't have, or
tear down what we can't have, or tear down what
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we want. And you know, it's always comments on plastic
surgery is like I would never I can't believe you
did what And you know, in secret conversations they're like,
oh God, I really hate I wish I could do this.
And so I just think it's a global dialogue about
a number one. If you do something, you have to
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do it for yourself too. You have to have the
resilience to understand that people will make comments that are
hurtful and that you know you should as you do
sort of be able to be like, well, whatever, I mean,
that is what it is overall. Now that you're seven
months out, So we talked before you add surgery and
excitement of like I can't believe that I'm about to
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have surgery. We talked how far out were you when
we did Your was like four or five? Six weeks?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I think, like I think six weeks?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Okay, yeah, And here you are now seven months out.
Things are still healing, things are not perfect all of it,
but by all intensive purposes. You're out and about your exercising,
you're in bikinis, you're going about, you're living your life.
So let's ask a few questions because it's sometimes what
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we anticipate in life doesn't turn out to be what
it turns out in reality. Right Like perfect example, you
meet someone, you have all these expectations, you think they're
going to be one way, and when the dust settles,
they turn out to be nothing like you had anticipated.
That's a perfect example. So let's talk about your journey
in terms of what you expected, what you didn't expect,
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and how you feel overall. So is this what you
had anticipated your life would feel like? Having change of
things that were made you insecure.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I think I was so.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
By how much I was annoyed by the loose skin
that I didn't really think about how I was going
to feel day to day.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I was just like, I can't wait every time I'd
wear a bikini, Oh, this annoys me. I can't wait
to sit down and like not have my flap shrink.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I think what was what I was most excited for
is the day that I decided I really want to
do this. Was I was working out and my trainer
had took a video of me running and my skin
was just going from side to side, like completely.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Ruined my vibe.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I was so annoyed about it, and so the first
time I ran and there was a video that.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I was like, damn, this feels so good.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
It feels so good to work out and see my
abs and see them like with no skin. It feels
so good to work out my arms and see like
toning with again no skin, it feels so good to
wear like backless dresses with no problems, and I could
wear whatever I want.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I could literally And then now that.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
It's summer, bikinis are so much more fun and then
I feel great. Something I didn't really think about before
was the swelling. You're like, oh, yeah, I'm going to
be swollen, like it's a bruise or something. But my
stomach was what really what I was really noticing.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
It's so swollen. You touch it and you can literally
like feel the water almost right.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, well, it's it's a DMA. It's swelling, and most
of swelling is fluid retention. And I think at some
point mid while you were healing, you know, you were
having a little bit of a challenge with your arms, right,
and they were red and they were this, and you
were very worried and you were very conscientious patient and
that you know, you want it to be on it. Hey,
doctor Bunn, I think this is wrong, which is which
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which we prefer you doing that then showing up in
our office, you know, a year later, like, hey, was
this a problem? Yeah? Right? But but but what it
was what I think you learned was the healing process
is healing process, So.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I think I didn't really I still don't really like
really can't really fathom that I got surgery on half
of my body and it was a pretty intensive surgery.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
No, like it was a long surchy yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And so after the six weeks, I'm like, fabulous, I
can do whatever I want. I can lift whatever I want,
as if.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I didn't just get like a haircut or something like,
as if I literally just went and got a haircut,
and then I did a boxing class with my trainer, which.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Like you got to think about it, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yes, but we tell you, with all fairness, I tell
you get going right, because you can get going. Nothing
happened to you. You didn't ruin anything, nothing tour, nothing
went terribly wrong, but naturally your body reacted like oh shit,
what did you just do? And it swelled and it's
perfectly fine. But you weren't ready for that exactly. It's like, oh,
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four steps back, well, what's going on? And so on
and so forth, which is really interesting because I think
even though we tell you, you just don't know till you're there.
Like everyone's like, oh, raising a child, it's going to
be difficult. You're like yeah, yeah, it'll be difficult. Then
you have a child, you're like, what the no one
ever told me this? You're like, no, no, we told
you this, but you just have to be there to
get it. So I think that you really comprehended very
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well that while your body is amazing and it's an
incredible machine, it is still recovering. And I guarantee you
now that you're at seven months, it's on the downhill
because just by biology, the first six months is uphill, swelling, itchy, tingling,
you know, things like that, numbness, and then the seven
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months and on it's downhill. So what you're gonna notice
here on out is every couple of months you're gonna
be like, WHOA, that's better, WHOA that feels better, WHOA
that looks better? Because now you hit the peak of healing.
Doesn't matter if you had your breast done, doesn't matter,
if you had your nose done, doesn't matter, if you
had your gall bladder remove. You hit your peak. And
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then if things are done correctly, that's the caveat. From
six months to twelve months, to eighteen months to twenty
four months, it should be incremental improvement every few months,
and it should be appreciable. You should be like, WHOA,
that is way better than even at seven months, and
I think you're gonna start seeing that develop more and more.
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So what do you think is your favorite part of
having done the surgery. I'm assuming it's the being able
to wear anything you want without without having to be like,
oh fuck, I got to hide this. Wait, how am
I going to wear that? Right? Would you say? Because
that's what you're all about fashion?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Right, There's two things, wearing whatever I want and not
being concerned about the way anything looks, and working out
working out?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah? Yeah, I think since you got lost the weight
doing diet and exercise. As someone who exercises a lot
and used to do triathlons, the number one enjoyment of
working out after the endorphins is the physical response to
your body. Does you actually do something and then you
go in the mirror You're like, holy.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Shit, exactly, that looks better.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And when you work out and work out and work
out and work out and you see nothing crickets, zero
muscle mass, nothing because the skin envelope is concealing it.
It's very deflating. Yes, it very so for people who
lose weight and don't do it by exercise. They don't
really feel that as much as people who really are
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into physical attributes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, my appearance is very important.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
To me, so yeah, yeah, and it should be. Yeah.
Vanity is We've had We had a whole, had a whole,
had a whole podcast on vanity, the definition, the concepts,
how it's sort of misunderstand and misconstrued. Some of the
most successful people people who care so much about their
appearance because their appearance is a reflection of how they
see themselves and the way they love themselves, and they
want to put their best self forward. I'm not talking
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about vain to the point that you lose yourself in
your vanity, but you your vaineness is keeping you at
your your at your cutting edge. Was there anything about
the surgery that was disappointing? Like a fuck, it's worth it.
I would have done it again, but like, I didn't
expect this, or had I known, or maybe someone should know?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Was there?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You know me, I'm not about sugarcoating anything, So you know,
I think the surgeries that we do globally, otherwise we
wouldn't do them right. People were like, oh my god, guys,
don't do this like you'd be at eight million reviews
that are like, don't don't do the surgery. So obviously
it's beneficial, but was there something in you in your
mind that you're like, didn't you think people should really
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know because it was like this, you got to be
ready for this because this is going to be not
what I not what you anticipated, or it's an exchange.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I hate to say this because then it just sounds like, oh, no,
everything was perfect, But really no, it's I wanted it
so badly, and I I prolonged the surgery for like
a year because two reasons. I'm so scared, like a
bad belly button. I almost didn't do this because of the.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Belly button, sure, and also because oh my goodness, I
lost my train that way.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Your parents, No, was the other reason that you didn't
do it. You were afraid to do it.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I didn't do it, oh, because I just I was like,
if it's going to turn out?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
What was your question?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
My question was was there something, oh that I don't
like that you thought? Listen, the whole surgery was amazing.
I do it today and I do it over again
in a minute, but this part wasn't so great or
had I known this, or people should realize yeah, it's
in exchange or was there something that And I was
going to answer just before you say, is this This
is the reason why candidacy is important. Let me explain
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something to you. If I operate on someone that is
super excited, super eager, super knowledgeable, and I do the
surgery and we crush it, they will be over the mood.
If I do the surgery and someone that's not that knowledgeable,
sort of decided last minute it's sort of borderline candidate,
and I crush it, they may or may not be happy. Right,
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So who you operate on is the biggest predictor of success,
not necessarily the surgery itself. And you were the prime candidate, young, healthy,
earned it couldn't circumvent it. Like let's say you didn't
do the surgery, so well, then great, you just have
loose skin forever, Like it's not going to go away.
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It only gets worse, like, oh now I'm forty well
that skins now twelve percent worse. So back to you,
what were you going to say, was.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I wasn't going to do it because I was like
I was so afraid that I wasn't going to like it, or.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I wasn't that knowledgeable. To be honest, I was just
very excited.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
And before I was like, if it's not going to
be perfect, I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It has to be absolutely.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You're definitely a picky like you're you're a particular person
for sure.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
But before, after our consultation and everything, I was very confident.
I still wanted In my mind, I was like, I
really wanted to be perfect because I did love my
body before the surgery.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Although I had insecurities about it, I still loved it.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
And I was like, if it's not going to be
the way I want envision it to be, I'd rather
not do it. Sure, But I before the surgery a
few months, I really like sat down with myself and
I was like, I need to drop crazy expectations because
although you're an incredible surgeon, you're only human, right we
might not you might not know when I'm envisioning, or
I might not have explained it that well.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
So I can't have perfect expectations.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
And so I really dropped that, and I like really
sat with the fact that I was confident I picked
a good surgeon and it was going to turn out well.
And I tried to explain how like, what I do
want and what I don't want as best as I could.
And I think dropping the crazy expectations was a big
reason why I really love everything now.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And I think, and again, bravo to you. I think
that your process from A to Z, and I can't
say this for every patient was very textbook. And as
a result, what that leads to is a very happy
patient in whom the surgery was massively beneficial. Are there
scars everyone wants to know? Of course there are scars.
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Of course they're healing. Of course they're a trade off.
Of Course they're not going to be perfect. Of course
they're visible, but relatively speaking, And of course they're early.
And at some point i'll see you and you'll be fifty,
and I'll be like dead, and you'll show up and
I'll be like, wow, your scars have faded beautifully. But
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it is the trade off. There's no free lunch. But
I think if the other reasons you're doing it for
blah bah blah blah blah blah, muscle visibility, oh tone, clothing,
this intimacy, if all those things are pluses, then the
trade off in your mind will be, oh wow, this
was a huge win.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I didn't expect of scars to be so so great
and so unvisible, like people sometimes ask me, I thought
you did your arms, Like what happened to your scar?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It's so it's such in a perfect spot that you
can't see it. But even if it was visible, I'm okay,
I'd rather have one a few scars than my skin.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah. So that's why I said to your you're the
perfect cant. Yeah. But that's that again, is why candidacy
so critical. You Literally, if I operated to the exact
same surgery in a different patient, we might be in
a lawsuit like, oh this thing here, the drain site there.
It's it's really who you're operating on because you can
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execute and I've been doing this now twenty years, and
you can execute and with all your intent and have
a great outcome, and just the person doesn't receive it.
It's just not received. You know, you're again, I'm painting
you a painting. You wake up and I'm handing you
a painting, and you might be like, this is the
ugliest painting I've ever seen in my life. It's unlikely,
but I'm saying it can so you know, I think
the mesh between you and I was very, very good
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at the end of the day, and I'm just happy
for you, and I'm glad that you've taken whatever we've
given you and you've multiplied it right, because at the
end of the day, this is about you taking this
surgery and as a result, making yourself a better person,
excelling your career and all those things. So I just
thought it was very interesting about Mostly the key to
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me was all the negative comments that I think are
out there, and I think you are embodying the right
attitude towards if you do plastic surgery, you do it
for yourself. And while you would assume that people would
be happy for you and love you, you can assume
that there will be people who are very unhappy and
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they will lash out. And the very key is for
you to have a nice thick armor and recognize that
this is about them and not about you, and not
allow it to change the way you perceive your own
body and your own decision making whatever. And you've done
an excellent job of that, and I think that was
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you know, you explained it very well. And for other
people who are going out there and wanting to do things,
because I get a lot of times you're out there completely,
but others people are like, I don't even want my
cousins to know. I don't want my sister to know.
I don't want my brother to know. I don't want
my husband to know. And I'm thinking to myself, what
why are you ashamed? Like I think if God forbid,
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someone's a prostitute or someone stealing or then you'd be like, oh,
I don't want anyone know, because that's something you'd be
shameful about. If you're doing plastic surgery and you are
so worried about how people will perceive you, then you're
not ready. Something is not right in that equation. You
don't need to be a public figure, but the people
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that are close to you, you shouldn't be afraid of
them finding out. If anything, I'm the type of person
as are you, that I'd be like, oh my god,
what happened in your nose?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
This?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Oh I did my nose? Oh you have no idea
how ugly this thing was before like hallelujah. Like I
would be as you know, as Tom Cruise. I'd get
on a rooftop and screamed like because I paid money,
went out of my way, did this, and I'm excited
about it. And the last thing you're going to do
is shit on my parade, and I'm going to voice
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my joy. Whereas people sometimes come about it and we
like talk about photo consents or whatever, and they're like, no,
I don't want anyone to know. Oh, I don't want
anyone to see it. Oh I'm not going to tell anybody,
And they all the power to you. But I feel
like the healthiest way to go about plastic surgery is
that you're so excited that you take out a billboard
at the super Bowl be like yeah, mother efforts, look
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at me.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Right, That to me is like the epitome or the
top of the totem pole of plastic surgery journeys.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Right Yeah, I would say.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I feel like, if you decide to do something, then
you should be doing it with confidence and who cares
if people find out.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
It's just like that's how I always feel about it
because I'm always listen. I always want everyone's photo consents
because I'm confident about the surgeries. Right, I think your
surgery is going to be a home run. Like I
assume that every surgery I do is number one on
our gallery. My mentality is nothing shy of a plus
or we're not going to do it. So I'm always
asking patients for their consents, whether it's their face or whatever.
(37:20):
And you be shocked as to how much resistance I get.
And it always surprises me, and I always have a
conversation with them about it, but ultimately it's their prerogative.
And I would think to myself like, hell, yeah, shit,
I bought this Berkin that Bugatti outside, Yeah, that's mine, Like,
I'm very excited about it. So at any rate, well
that's a wrap. The next time we see you, you know,
(37:41):
maybe you'll be a superstar. Don't forget about it's always
little people.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Never you guys are superstars.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
And yeah, and I hope that people enjoyed your journey.
I hope people were appreciative of your transparency. And most
of all, we're all happy for you.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Thank you so much, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
All right, guys, that's a rap. That's yet another amazing
episode of plastic surgery uncensored. As always, I leave you
with two partying requests. Number One, if you love our show,
go right right now, right this second, go write a
positive review. We need as many of them as possible.
And in addition, secondly, we'd love for you to share
(38:19):
this podcast with every friend and family member you know
and download and subscribe, and we need followers. We don't
want to be talking in a vacuum. I don't want
to be talking to myself. So please do those two things,
and last, but not least, join us next week because
I'm sure whatever we're going to be talking about, it's
going to be awesome. All Right, guys, that's a wrap
until next week. You're a host. Doctor Rodier Raban on
(38:40):
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