June 29, 2020 • 35 mins
Marlene Warren opened the door to flowers and balloons, delivered by a clown, but no one expected the gunshots that followed. Now the woman who investigators say dressed as that clown, killing the wife of her now-husband, is headed to trial.
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Kirk Nurmi - Jodi Arias former attorney & author of "Trapped with Ms. Arias"
- Dr. Angela Arnold - Psychiatrist, Atlanta Ga
- Jeff Cortese - Former FBI Special Agent
- Dr. Katherine Maloney - Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, Erie County Medical Examiners office, Buffalo, New York
- Levi Page - Investigative reporter, CrimeOnline
- George Schiro - Lab director at Scales Biological Laboratory Inc.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Let me set the stage for this. A quiet residential neighborhood.
A mom goes to the door and opens the door,
standing there as a clown with balloons. She thinks she's
getting some kind of a fun delivery. Instead, she gets
shot dead. What happened? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace? What
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happened to Marlene Warren? I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
Thank you for being with us. Let's kick it off, Jackie,
take a listen. What do you remember of May twenty sixth,
nineteen ninety I remember that being one of the most
terrible days of my life. You're in the house with
your mom, right, yes, what's going on? Well, a typical morning.
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She and I were cooking breakfast that morning, joking, carrying on.
Did Marlene have any enemies in this world? None? Everybody
loved her. She was by everything, my mom, my friend,
she was by everything. I was in the living room.
I sat down the eaves. There was a balloon and
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some clown coming at the door. Look at that clown.
She was going to that door. She was excited. When
your mother opened the door, did she say something? Oh?
How pretty well? At first we thought maybe it was
a balloon, but when we saw her fall, her knew
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was something was definitely seriously wrong. We had no clue
what was going on. It was like the whole world
was in slow emotion. Did the clown say anything, Nothing,
not a word. The clown slowly walked back to the
car like no care in the world. The clown slowly
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walked back to the car, not a care in the world.
The clown didn't speak, The voice was never heard. I
was just listening to this son talk about his mother,
and immediately I thought of just last night, my daughter,
Lucy wanted me to sleep with her, and I said
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sure and jumped in the bed and yelled good night
to John David. A few minutes later, John David came
up to the bed where I was going to sleep
with Lucy and went night mom again and came over
and hugged me really tight. I was just thinking about
you grow up with your mother and him saying good
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night twice and getting another hug and then to thank
your mother. Essentially your world at a young age goes
to the door and get shot dead again. I Meanancy Grace,
this is crime Stories. Thanks for being with us here
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at Fox Nations. Serious XM with me an all star
panel and Bloy, we need a panel on this one.
Kurt Nurmi is with me, renowned trial lawyer who represented
Jodi Arius at trial, author of Trapped with miss Arius
on Amazon. Doctor Angela Arnold, well known psychiatrists joining us
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from the Atlanta jurisdiction. Jeff Cortezi, former FBI special Agent,
Doctor Katherine Maloney, Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, joining us from
Erie County. Emmy's office. That's Buffalo. George skiro DNA technical leader,
lab director at Scales Biological Laboratory, Inc. Right now to
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Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Levi, Paige Levin, I
want to start at the beginning, when Marlene Warren goes
to the door. Tell me what happened. So, Nancy, this
is in Wellington, Florida, Palm Beach County, and it's nineteen
ninety it's a Memorial Day weekend, and forty year old
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Marlene Warren, she was eating breakfast with her son and
his friends. They were in their early twenties, and the
doorbell rings. She got up to answer it, and she
opened the door and there was a clown that had
a flower arrangement and balloons and that's not all he had.
He had a gun, pulled it out and I say
he meaning a clown, you think of a He and
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shot Marlene Warren dead, shot her in the face, then
got into a white Chrysler convertible and left the scene.
Marlene Warren died two days later in the hospital. There's
so many questions just ricocheting off the inside of my
mind right now, because you know, if you look at
this Jeff Cortesi, former FBI, she's so clearly targeted because
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the person walks to the door, rings the doorbell, she answers,
they shoot her and then walk back to the car.
This isn't a drive by shooting. It's not a rape,
it's not a burglary, it's not a robbery. She is targeted.
Not only that the killer clown takes great efforts to
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cover their identity. They never utter a word, which means
they don't want their voice to be heard. This has
to be someone that knows her, or is obsessed with her,
or has been watching her. And my guests would be
she knows them too. Agree or disagree? No, I absolutely agree.
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This is a cold, calculated and well thought out I
mean the steps that were taken to to shield the
identity of the shoe from anybody around. Were very well
planned out, and all indications are that these two people
would would know each other. The first thing I would
be doing is trying to get the make and model
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of that vehicle that the killer was driving, and going
to every grocery store and about a ten to fifteen
mile vicinity that sells balloons or flowers. You know, there's
always that balloon and flower section typically in grocery stores.
Definitely flowers, first move, and looking for forensics. For all
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I know, the clown was wearing gloves. Take a listen
now you were hearing Peter van zan at forty eight
hours this is Alexandrew's stone at k ETV. Listen. Marlene
Warren was in her Aero Club community home with her adults,
Sign and some of his friends. They were eating breakfast
when they noticed someone at their front door. Marlene answered it,
revealing a person dressed as a clown holding two balloons
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and a basket of flowers. A witness who was present
at the time recall would happen next in a police interview,
saying Marlene made a remark like you know, oh, how
nice you know and everything. She was happy about it,
and when she went to reach and grab for it,
he just shot her in the mouth twice. The witness
says that the scene said that the clown just turned around,
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walked back to the car, got into the White Christ
from the baron, and just drove away very calmly. A
Christ's little baron in color white. Doctor Angela Arnold Psychiatrists
joining me out of the Atlanta jurisdiction, Doctor Angela. The
fact that this woman, this mother, was shot twice in
the mouth. Now, I know a lot of people think
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that that's just I'll let me just say by accident,
now that the shooting is by accident, but that the
shooting in the mouth, I think it's on purpose. But
shot in the mouth, it was very much on purpose.
The clown wanted to distigure her. The clown wanted to
make sure that she was dead. It was very thought
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out and calculated. It's it's always when someone shoots. Well,
I'm talking about the fact that she was shot in
the mouth, not just shot in the chest or the head.
But she was shot twice in the mouth. And I
find that very very significant to Kirk Nurmy, you represented
Jody Arius, she shot Travis Alexander. I know you said
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she didn't fine have it your way, but he was
stabbed twenty nine times, I think, and shot in the head.
It's significant when the shooter picks the head, the face
in this case, the mouth in which they shoot the victim.
And I think in your case, Arias was at close
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range to Travis Alexander. She knew she was shooting him
in the head. In this case, the clown was at
close range. She knew when she went to the door.
She opened the door up, there's a clown. The clown
takes the gun and points right at her mouth. Time
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Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about a mom
that goes to the door of her home. She's having
breakfast with her son and one of his friends. She
thinks she's getting a surprise flowers and balloons. What she
gets a surprise? All right? She gets shot dead twice
in the mouth. Nurmie, don't you think your client, Jody
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aris aside, it is significant when someone is shot close range,
specifically in the mouth. That is a deep psychological up.
It's a neon signed to me. Well, it certainly adds
a personal anger element to it right. It's not just
a matter of killing, It's a matter of disfiguring mamming
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and make be sure that person life and their death
will never be the same. It as a intensely personal
way of shooting someone. Well another thing pointing at the mouth.
You want to make sure she Marline jan never says
another word. But why to doctor Catherine Maloney, Deputy medical
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examiner joining me out of Erie County, Buffalo. Is there
any way a person could live if they've been shot
front to back in the mouth. It would really depend
on the trajectory of the bullet. So if the bullet
goes straight front to back such that it hits the
base of the brain, then the person will definitely die
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because you require the bottom part of your brain to
stay alive. If instead, however, the bullet manages to either
go to the right of the left, you know, sort
of towards through the side of the head, it's possible
that the person could survive, but it would be a
very long and prolonged process to kind of put them
back together again. Do leavipage climb online dot Com investigative reporter.
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Do we know whether the clown was wearing gloves? We
don't know that for Sir Nancy, So did George Skiro.
DNA really on the forefront of DNA forensics Scignists Lab
Director Scales Biological Labs, George Skiro. If she's when Marlene
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goes to the door, she opens the door. If the
clown is wearing gloves, what's the likelihood we're going to
get any DNA off the balloons of the flowers, No, mancy.
It depends on the person who was dressed at the
clown handled the items beforehand without gloves, then there may
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be some DNA present, But of course in order to
do that, you have to find the gloves, and you
need to find the person so that you could then
compare the DNA to that person. Well, another issue is
if the clown down went and bought the flowers and
the balloons, say in the grocery store, would they have
been wearing the gloves at the time of the purchase.
Their DNA could be on the balloons, could be on
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the flowers. What would that be touched DNA. Yes, that
would be touched DNA where someone's DNA is transferred basically
from the skin on their hands to the items that
they're handling. Guys, take a listen now to Peter van
Zant at forty eight hours. Joe was living at home
and his friends were over that morning, including Jeannie Pratt,
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who helped ten to Marlene, a neighbor called nine one.
I was right next to her and our rolled her
to her side. Was a big hole in our chief,
an upper lip. Joe, hobbled by a broken leg and
cast followed the clown outside the shooter's car, a white
Chrysler LeBaron was parked in the driveway. The car was
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right here, the door was open, the car was running.
I tried to get the clown to turn around. I
call him every word in the book. The shooter looked back.
Joe saw white and red clown makeup, a fuzzy orange wig,
and the eyes of the person who had just shot
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his mother, just really dark brown eyes. The shooter calmly
got in the car and drove away. Didn't even squeal attire,
just drove off like nothing happened. What does that tell
you to Jeff Cortesi, former FBI special Agents, I mean
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it tells me that there was a lot of thought
that was put into this. I mean, when you put
yourself in a high stress situation. You know, the world
starts to shrink around you, the heart rate starts going,
you get tunnel vision, etc. In order to overcome that,
it takes either a great amount of training in high
stress situations and a great planning. So this was somebody
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who did not allow the events taking place to change
their manipulated behavior beyond what they had intended to do,
and that was remained calm and cool and get in
and out, and it was it's cold. In the theory,
I find that pretty bold, pretty brace and not to
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even run. If I had just murdered, somebody would at
least run to get away. Here's Peter Van say. Listen,
investigators had very little to work with initially, Daphne Durette
of the Palm Beach Post. They knew that the shooter
sped off in a white Chrysler LeBaron. What they also
knew was that the shooter had brown eyes. Because of
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all the makeup and the costume, Joe couldn't even be
sure if the shooter was a man or a woman,
which left police with a problem. There's a thing called
a bolo. What is a bolo? A bolo is an
acronym for be on the look out, and in this case,
the bolo was for someone dressed in a clown costume.
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It was not a lot to go on. Man, you're
not kidding. A bolo be on the lookout for a
person dressed at a clown costume. So let me ask
you this Levi page climb online dot com. Tell me
who was in the home at the time of the shooting.
So there was Marlene Warren, her son and some of
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his friends, a girlfriend and some of his friends. Neighbors
said that after the shooting, some of his friends were
running out of the house frantic and scared. On one
of the balloons it was written You're the Greatest, while
the other had snow white painted on it. The clown
was wearing one of those wigs, the fuzzy haired wigs
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bright orange. So the only identifier is that the killer
has brown eyes. Immediately began canvassing the area for who
may have sold those balloons and flowers. Take a listen
to this. Other investigators continued trying to find where the
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flower arrangement and balloons were purchased. One said You're the
greatest and the other one had snow white. In the
seven Dwarfs on it right, So they had these two
very distinctive balloons. Police learned that those balloons were distinctive
enough that they could link them back to a specific supermarket.
The balloons and flowers left at the doorstep of the
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murder scene were purchased at this public The fire described
as a white female with dark brown hair. Dark brown hair.
Police discovered that purchase was made at nine twenty two am,
an hour and a half before the shooting, and the
store's location caught their attention. Sheila Keene's home is about
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a little more than half a mile over here. Who
is Sheila Keene? And it's very interesting and I don't
doubt it for one minute that the clark remembered selling
those particular balloons to a woman, white female with long
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brown hair. That's what the clerk remembers. Why because one
was a snow white balloon and one said you're the greatest.
Very ironical that the recipient of the balloons You're the greatest,
ends up dead. I want to go to Jeff Cortesi,
FBI former special agent. Jeff, how do you go about
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tracking down who sold those balloons? I mean, I don't
know that. I don't think there was video at the time,
So you have to go to every single clerk at
every single grocery store. Yeah, absolutely, this is very nineteen
ninety n CCTV wasn't then what it is now. So
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it does take a getting out and going from shop
to shop and asking the right questions, and that is
a huge resource dream but that's what it takes sometimes
to get the lead you need to take you to
the next step. Leavipage crime online dot com. Where is
the husband in this scenario? Her husband is Michael Warren
and he ran a used car lot, car rental agency,
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and car reposition repossession business. So he had a car
lot and a report business. Isn't it true that he
had already been in trouble with the law for rolling
back oh dometers, Yes, and which is actually a federal offense.
He served about four years in prison for that and
financial crimes related to his business. Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Who is Sheila Kane cut to cut ten? Police take
a listen to this. What police did find in the
apartment was hair from the bathroom trash and a stunner
more orange fibers on clothing inside. She lives home. Detectives
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aren't saying if Keane is actually a suspect in the murder.
What they will say is that they are waiting for
test results on samples of hair and fibers taken from
search warrants. A police criminologist compared the samples of human
hair and the orange fibers from the car and the apartment,
and in both cases concluded the samples were similar. So
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this sounds like something, Well, you could put this in
front of a jury and potentially get a conviction. You could,
or maybe you couldn't. Similar is not the same man,
You are so right about that. Similar is not the saying.
Take a listen to our friend Peter van Sam. Four
days after the shooting, police got a huge break. They
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found a white baron maybe this was the getaway car.
They find it in the parking lot of a Win
Dixie supermarket. That supermarket is eight miles from the crime
scene and nine miles from Sheila Keane's apartment. Inside the car,
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police found two important clues. They find this orange synthetic
hair like the fibers from a clown wig. They also
find strands of brown human hair, brown hair like Sheila Keynes.
Within hours, police had a warrant to search her apartment.
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Investigation is to the woman who lives here at the
Pine Ridge Apartments off Haverhill Road. They didn't find a gun.
Sheila's a stranged husband told police they owned a thirty
eight Revolver, but that Sheila told him she misplaced it
about a month before the murder. Misplaced your gun. Remind
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me to circle back to misplacing your gun. But there's
so much right here. Stop everything. This woman has a
whiteless saber. It's abandoned a Wi DIXI parking lot, and
it's got orange fibers in it and a long brown
hair in it. That's a coincidence, I don't think so,
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So leave a page. Why would a completely unknown woman
what suddenly dress up like a clown not say word
and gun down? Marlane? Who is Sheila King? So? Sheila
Keane was twenty six years old in nineteen ninety. She
was married, but she worked for Michael Warren and Michael
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Warren's co workers people that worked for him say that
they were having an affair and that she had an
apartment that he was paying the rent for. You know what,
can you just surprise me one time? A co worker
they have an affair according to co workers, and you
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know you can't keep that kind of thing a secret.
Kurt Narmy, could you just one time surprise me and
it not be a love triangle with your co worker? Well,
I guess not, because that's clearly what the case was here,
and we saw we talked about that personalization element before,
and we can kind of see that correlation and that
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puzzle come together, Doctor Angela Arnold. Do they really think
the co workers don't notice they're sitting in each other's laps,
going out for lunch every day together. You think they
don't see that There's got to be some sort of
I don't think that they care. I think that they
are so into what they're doing that they have convinced
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themselves that other people around them do not see this behavior.
You know, another issue right here. To Jeff Cortesi, FBI
former Special Agent office, workers always know what's happening. They
always know. You can't keep that kind of thing as secret.
You can't in just like in you know, other situations
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similar to this. You know, the first place that anybody's
going to look is close to the home and then
work out. So the messagetors are going to start close
and work out. So when they start close and they
identify something like this, you know, a marital infidelity or
that's going to grab their attention right away and there's
no way to hide that stuff from people. Marital infidelity
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and the white less sabers actually stolen. So in the
stolen white less saber found abandon at a wind See
parking lot. What is the likelihood George's Squiro, the lab
director Scales Biological Lab, Inc. That you're going to find
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orange hair from a wig and long brown hair that
they say is similar to what was used, but without
the wig. How can they make a comparison? George Guiro, Well, Nancy,
what they can do is they can take those fibers,
those orange fibers, and run a series of chemical and
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microscopic analyses on them to determine what their chemical makeup is,
what's the structure of the fiber, what type of dye
was used, and they can give investigative information and also
the hair itself can also provide some forensic information that
might be of value. If that hair is still in
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couldn't it be compared even without a route, couldn't you
get mitochondrial DNA from the here found in the stolen
the saber and try to match it up to the mistress.
That's correct, metcy mitochondrial DNA would be the type of
analysis that would be used to make that type of comparison.
So isn't this true? Levi page climb online dot Com
investigative reporter that the neighbors that live near Sheila King
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actually thought that Warren the husband was her husband because
he was there all the time. And yet you are correct,
and they spent a lot of time together. Well you know,
you call it spending time together. I call it something else.
But for all the neighbors to think that was Sheila
King's husband, the killer clown? Is it the mistress the
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love rival? What happens after that? Guys? Take a listen
to unmask the Killer Clown twenty seven years at the
war and his gun down in the doorway of her
Florida home. The Palm Beach Post uncovers a salacious secret.
We're coming up on the twenty seventh anniversary of Rollan
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Warren's death, so my editor and I decided that I
should look into it. What she found out was that
Mike Warren and Sheila Keane the same people who denied
having an affair shortly after Marlene Warren was killed were
now husband and wife. Michael gets out of prison early,
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and what does he do. He seeks out the same
woman who was investigated for killing his wife. Think about it.
You don't marry a woman that you suspect that mighty
killed your wife. Mike Warren married Sheila Keane in Las
Vegas in two thousand and two, twelve years after his
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wife's murders. So he does time on that odominter charge.
Remember he works to use car lot connective, rolling back
the admins and tricking customers, gets out, goes straight to
Sheila King and marries her. That's pretty strong circumstantial evidence
to you, Kurt Narmy. Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
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You have motives, you have, you know, evidence of maybe
they got married to cover up after the fact. They
thought they were bringing on privilege or marital privilege. Who knows,
who knows if the husband even knew. But yes, the
circumstantial evidence is piling up in their actions after the fact.
Her actions in particular, show of consciousness of the old
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Let me understand something, Levi Page. The husband was not
in jail on the odometer charge at the time the shooting.
Was he No, he wasn't. That was years later, Nancy,
and he served time for that, and he actually got
out of prison and married Sheila Keen in two thousand
and two, and then they moved to Southern Virginia, a
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community right outside of Kingsport, Tennessee, a very upscale community
known for retirees moving there in the mountains, very beautiful,
and they lived there and she went by the name Debbie,
and they started a restaurant together called the Purple Cow.
And apparently they were very well liked. She changed her name.
She started going by an alias. Yes, Debbie, she was
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not going by Sheila. So they move away from the jurisdiction,
she changes her name, he gets rid of the car
a lot, and they start a restaurant called the Purple
Cow far away from the murder. Wow. Sounds a little
bit like they're on the run. Now. There's another report
that at the time of the shooting, he was in
fact in a car with a group of guys on
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the interstate. But long story short, he was nowhere near
the home at the time of the shooting. Is very
hard for me to believe, since these two, then getting
married after the murder, that he knew nothing about it.
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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Bombshell. Right now, this case,
over twenty seven years later, is going to trial. I'm
just wondering if there's any way they got a DNA
match on that hair found in the stolen lasaber, the
white lasaber identical to the one that left the scene
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of the murder. Take a listen now to unmask the
killer clown, the Homage County Sheriff's Office and the Washington
County Sheriff's Office of Virginia tracked Michael and Sheila. They
were cutting to Vermont for a vacation. He pulled the
car over and arrest Sheila, who's sitting in the passenger seat.
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While she lives in the loose car. She ask officers questions,
why are you arresting me? Are you arresting my husband?
Where are you taking me? Are you taking my husband
somewhere too? Once police get her into an interrogation room
and tell her what the case is about, she tells
them that she doesn't want to answer any more questions,
and she puts her head down. Sheila Keene is charged
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with first degree murder and extradited to Palm Beach County.
This is what we know. According to the detectives on
the case. They say DNA advances since the time of
Marlene's murder, combined with other evidence, have made this case
viable at trial. To George Skiro, special guests are joining
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us at DNA expert Lab director at the Scales Biological Lab, Inc.
George Skiro, what do they mean by advancements in DNA technology, Well, Nancy,
there's been a lot of advancements in the last several
years as far as DNA and nalysisco was. However, in
this case, mitochondrial DNA analysis is for a forensic cases,
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has probably been around since the mid nineties, So unless
they use some of the newer genetic genealogy technologies in
this case, it seems like it's pretty much standard mitochondrial DNA.
And what we're learning is that the killer clown investigators
use DNA from hair samples to make a cold case arrest.
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Because at one moment, the alleged killer, the mistress, Sheila
Keane Warren, is on her way to visitor a mom
and Vermont. The next minute she has been handcuffed and
plays in the back of a Virginia Sheriff's cruiser. She's saying,
where am I going? Why am I under arrest? She's
sitting back there in her jeans and flip flops. When
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she's told she's under arrest because of a murder, she
immediately puts her head down and refuses to answer any
further questions. Now, this is what we know DNA based
on hair samples. Again to George Skiro, the lab director
Skills Biological Labs, Inc. Try to explain that to me
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and regular people talk when we say hair samples have
managed to solve a twenty seven year old cold case
murder by a killer clown of all things, what are
they saying? Well, and see what they're saying is that
this mitochondrial DNA that was found in the hair samples
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in the vehicle matched the mitochondrial DNA profile of Sheila
Key Warrens. And this is not like the normal type
of DNA that we hear about every day. This one
isn't as specific because it's passed along maternal lines within
the family. We also know now that the clown was
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absolutely wearing gloves, a bulb nose, and a painted smile
over a white face. We also know that a pistol
was the murder weapon. I don't know about you guys,
but if I had a gun, I don't think I
would misplace it. The only person I've ever heard of misplacing,
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not that it was stolen, but misplaced a gun was
Robert Blake, who was acquitted by a jury in the
murder of his wife, Bonnie Lee Bakley. Well, he killed her,
just I hope the jury here's that. But I've never
heard of another case where a weapon was misplaced. That's
what she says. We know detectives collected samples of Sheila
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Keane's hair, vials of her blood, and a search warrant
because she was a suspect at the time. Now, when
her apartment was searched, Lee by page, what was found
in the apartment that can help me out on this
DNA comparison. So they found fibers that were red that
was consistent with the red of a wig of a
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clown inside of her appointment. We know that there was
a court ordered search of her home. In the apartment,
there were fibers from a bright orange wig. Not the wig,
but fibers and clothing that police were checking from bloodstains.
Similar bright red orange fibers were found in the stolen
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the saber in the reopened case. This may be the
key the FBI crime lab. That's where you come in,
Jeff Cortesi. The FBI crime Lab say matches were made
to fibers collected from the getaway car through a precise
DNA connection, that Sheila Keane is a possible source of
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the hairs. What does that mean to you? That means
that they are connecting the car to the suspect and
the wig to the suspect. The It is one more
piece in a chain of evidence that more completely tells
a story that gives the prosecutors a little bit more
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confidence to take to a grand jury and then subsequently
to a jury. Is it truly vi Page that almost
fifty four thousand dollars life insurance policy was paid to
Michael Warren at the death of his wife, and is
he also going to be indicted? That is true, Nancy,
that there was a life insurance about fifty grand that
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was awarded to him after she was murdered, Nancy, But
so far he has not faced any charges in the
murder of his wife, Sheila Keane. We wait as Justice,
Unfoles delayed, yes denied No. Nancy Grace Crime Store signing
off Goodbye FRI
Let me set the stage for this. A quiet residential neighborhood.
A mom goes to the door and opens the door,
standing there as a clown with balloons. She thinks she's
getting some kind of a fun delivery. Instead, she gets
shot dead. What happened? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace? What
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happened to Marlene Warren? I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
Thank you for being with us. Let's kick it off, Jackie,
take a listen. What do you remember of May twenty sixth,
nineteen ninety I remember that being one of the most
terrible days of my life. You're in the house with
your mom, right, yes, what's going on? Well, a typical morning.
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She and I were cooking breakfast that morning, joking, carrying on.
Did Marlene have any enemies in this world? None? Everybody
loved her. She was by everything, my mom, my friend,
she was by everything. I was in the living room.
I sat down the eaves. There was a balloon and
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some clown coming at the door. Look at that clown.
She was going to that door. She was excited. When
your mother opened the door, did she say something? Oh?
How pretty well? At first we thought maybe it was
a balloon, but when we saw her fall, her knew
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was something was definitely seriously wrong. We had no clue
what was going on. It was like the whole world
was in slow emotion. Did the clown say anything, Nothing,
not a word. The clown slowly walked back to the
car like no care in the world. The clown slowly
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walked back to the car, not a care in the world.
The clown didn't speak, The voice was never heard. I
was just listening to this son talk about his mother,
and immediately I thought of just last night, my daughter,
Lucy wanted me to sleep with her, and I said
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sure and jumped in the bed and yelled good night
to John David. A few minutes later, John David came
up to the bed where I was going to sleep
with Lucy and went night mom again and came over
and hugged me really tight. I was just thinking about
you grow up with your mother and him saying good
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night twice and getting another hug and then to thank
your mother. Essentially your world at a young age goes
to the door and get shot dead again. I Meanancy Grace,
this is crime Stories. Thanks for being with us here
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at Fox Nations. Serious XM with me an all star
panel and Bloy, we need a panel on this one.
Kurt Nurmi is with me, renowned trial lawyer who represented
Jodi Arius at trial, author of Trapped with miss Arius
on Amazon. Doctor Angela Arnold, well known psychiatrists joining us
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from the Atlanta jurisdiction. Jeff Cortezi, former FBI special Agent,
Doctor Katherine Maloney, Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, joining us from
Erie County. Emmy's office. That's Buffalo. George skiro DNA technical leader,
lab director at Scales Biological Laboratory, Inc. Right now to
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Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Levi, Paige Levin, I
want to start at the beginning, when Marlene Warren goes
to the door. Tell me what happened. So, Nancy, this
is in Wellington, Florida, Palm Beach County, and it's nineteen
ninety it's a Memorial Day weekend, and forty year old
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Marlene Warren, she was eating breakfast with her son and
his friends. They were in their early twenties, and the
doorbell rings. She got up to answer it, and she
opened the door and there was a clown that had
a flower arrangement and balloons and that's not all he had.
He had a gun, pulled it out and I say
he meaning a clown, you think of a He and
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shot Marlene Warren dead, shot her in the face, then
got into a white Chrysler convertible and left the scene.
Marlene Warren died two days later in the hospital. There's
so many questions just ricocheting off the inside of my
mind right now, because you know, if you look at
this Jeff Cortesi, former FBI, she's so clearly targeted because
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the person walks to the door, rings the doorbell, she answers,
they shoot her and then walk back to the car.
This isn't a drive by shooting. It's not a rape,
it's not a burglary, it's not a robbery. She is targeted.
Not only that the killer clown takes great efforts to
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cover their identity. They never utter a word, which means
they don't want their voice to be heard. This has
to be someone that knows her, or is obsessed with her,
or has been watching her. And my guests would be
she knows them too. Agree or disagree? No, I absolutely agree.
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This is a cold, calculated and well thought out I
mean the steps that were taken to to shield the
identity of the shoe from anybody around. Were very well
planned out, and all indications are that these two people
would would know each other. The first thing I would
be doing is trying to get the make and model
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of that vehicle that the killer was driving, and going
to every grocery store and about a ten to fifteen
mile vicinity that sells balloons or flowers. You know, there's
always that balloon and flower section typically in grocery stores.
Definitely flowers, first move, and looking for forensics. For all
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I know, the clown was wearing gloves. Take a listen
now you were hearing Peter van zan at forty eight
hours this is Alexandrew's stone at k ETV. Listen. Marlene
Warren was in her Aero Club community home with her adults,
Sign and some of his friends. They were eating breakfast
when they noticed someone at their front door. Marlene answered it,
revealing a person dressed as a clown holding two balloons
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and a basket of flowers. A witness who was present
at the time recall would happen next in a police interview,
saying Marlene made a remark like you know, oh, how
nice you know and everything. She was happy about it,
and when she went to reach and grab for it,
he just shot her in the mouth twice. The witness
says that the scene said that the clown just turned around,
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walked back to the car, got into the White Christ
from the baron, and just drove away very calmly. A
Christ's little baron in color white. Doctor Angela Arnold Psychiatrists
joining me out of the Atlanta jurisdiction, Doctor Angela. The
fact that this woman, this mother, was shot twice in
the mouth. Now, I know a lot of people think
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that that's just I'll let me just say by accident,
now that the shooting is by accident, but that the
shooting in the mouth, I think it's on purpose. But
shot in the mouth, it was very much on purpose.
The clown wanted to distigure her. The clown wanted to
make sure that she was dead. It was very thought
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out and calculated. It's it's always when someone shoots. Well,
I'm talking about the fact that she was shot in
the mouth, not just shot in the chest or the head.
But she was shot twice in the mouth. And I
find that very very significant to Kirk Nurmy, you represented
Jody Arius, she shot Travis Alexander. I know you said
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she didn't fine have it your way, but he was
stabbed twenty nine times, I think, and shot in the head.
It's significant when the shooter picks the head, the face
in this case, the mouth in which they shoot the victim.
And I think in your case, Arias was at close
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range to Travis Alexander. She knew she was shooting him
in the head. In this case, the clown was at
close range. She knew when she went to the door.
She opened the door up, there's a clown. The clown
takes the gun and points right at her mouth. Time
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Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about a mom
that goes to the door of her home. She's having
breakfast with her son and one of his friends. She
thinks she's getting a surprise flowers and balloons. What she
gets a surprise? All right? She gets shot dead twice
in the mouth. Nurmie, don't you think your client, Jody
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aris aside, it is significant when someone is shot close range,
specifically in the mouth. That is a deep psychological up.
It's a neon signed to me. Well, it certainly adds
a personal anger element to it right. It's not just
a matter of killing, It's a matter of disfiguring mamming
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and make be sure that person life and their death
will never be the same. It as a intensely personal
way of shooting someone. Well another thing pointing at the mouth.
You want to make sure she Marline jan never says
another word. But why to doctor Catherine Maloney, Deputy medical
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examiner joining me out of Erie County, Buffalo. Is there
any way a person could live if they've been shot
front to back in the mouth. It would really depend
on the trajectory of the bullet. So if the bullet
goes straight front to back such that it hits the
base of the brain, then the person will definitely die
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because you require the bottom part of your brain to
stay alive. If instead, however, the bullet manages to either
go to the right of the left, you know, sort
of towards through the side of the head, it's possible
that the person could survive, but it would be a
very long and prolonged process to kind of put them
back together again. Do leavipage climb online dot Com investigative reporter.
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Do we know whether the clown was wearing gloves? We
don't know that for Sir Nancy, So did George Skiro.
DNA really on the forefront of DNA forensics Scignists Lab
Director Scales Biological Labs, George Skiro. If she's when Marlene
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goes to the door, she opens the door. If the
clown is wearing gloves, what's the likelihood we're going to
get any DNA off the balloons of the flowers, No, mancy.
It depends on the person who was dressed at the
clown handled the items beforehand without gloves, then there may
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be some DNA present, But of course in order to
do that, you have to find the gloves, and you
need to find the person so that you could then
compare the DNA to that person. Well, another issue is
if the clown down went and bought the flowers and
the balloons, say in the grocery store, would they have
been wearing the gloves at the time of the purchase.
Their DNA could be on the balloons, could be on
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the flowers. What would that be touched DNA. Yes, that
would be touched DNA where someone's DNA is transferred basically
from the skin on their hands to the items that
they're handling. Guys, take a listen now to Peter van
Zant at forty eight hours. Joe was living at home
and his friends were over that morning, including Jeannie Pratt,
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who helped ten to Marlene, a neighbor called nine one.
I was right next to her and our rolled her
to her side. Was a big hole in our chief,
an upper lip. Joe, hobbled by a broken leg and
cast followed the clown outside the shooter's car, a white
Chrysler LeBaron was parked in the driveway. The car was
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right here, the door was open, the car was running.
I tried to get the clown to turn around. I
call him every word in the book. The shooter looked back.
Joe saw white and red clown makeup, a fuzzy orange wig,
and the eyes of the person who had just shot
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his mother, just really dark brown eyes. The shooter calmly
got in the car and drove away. Didn't even squeal attire,
just drove off like nothing happened. What does that tell
you to Jeff Cortesi, former FBI special Agents, I mean
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it tells me that there was a lot of thought
that was put into this. I mean, when you put
yourself in a high stress situation. You know, the world
starts to shrink around you, the heart rate starts going,
you get tunnel vision, etc. In order to overcome that,
it takes either a great amount of training in high
stress situations and a great planning. So this was somebody
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who did not allow the events taking place to change
their manipulated behavior beyond what they had intended to do,
and that was remained calm and cool and get in
and out, and it was it's cold. In the theory,
I find that pretty bold, pretty brace and not to
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even run. If I had just murdered, somebody would at
least run to get away. Here's Peter Van say. Listen,
investigators had very little to work with initially, Daphne Durette
of the Palm Beach Post. They knew that the shooter
sped off in a white Chrysler LeBaron. What they also
knew was that the shooter had brown eyes. Because of
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all the makeup and the costume, Joe couldn't even be
sure if the shooter was a man or a woman,
which left police with a problem. There's a thing called
a bolo. What is a bolo? A bolo is an
acronym for be on the look out, and in this case,
the bolo was for someone dressed in a clown costume.
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It was not a lot to go on. Man, you're
not kidding. A bolo be on the lookout for a
person dressed at a clown costume. So let me ask
you this Levi page climb online dot com. Tell me
who was in the home at the time of the shooting.
So there was Marlene Warren, her son and some of
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his friends, a girlfriend and some of his friends. Neighbors
said that after the shooting, some of his friends were
running out of the house frantic and scared. On one
of the balloons it was written You're the Greatest, while
the other had snow white painted on it. The clown
was wearing one of those wigs, the fuzzy haired wigs
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bright orange. So the only identifier is that the killer
has brown eyes. Immediately began canvassing the area for who
may have sold those balloons and flowers. Take a listen
to this. Other investigators continued trying to find where the
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flower arrangement and balloons were purchased. One said You're the
greatest and the other one had snow white. In the
seven Dwarfs on it right, So they had these two
very distinctive balloons. Police learned that those balloons were distinctive
enough that they could link them back to a specific supermarket.
The balloons and flowers left at the doorstep of the
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murder scene were purchased at this public The fire described
as a white female with dark brown hair. Dark brown hair.
Police discovered that purchase was made at nine twenty two am,
an hour and a half before the shooting, and the
store's location caught their attention. Sheila Keene's home is about
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a little more than half a mile over here. Who
is Sheila Keene? And it's very interesting and I don't
doubt it for one minute that the clark remembered selling
those particular balloons to a woman, white female with long
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brown hair. That's what the clerk remembers. Why because one
was a snow white balloon and one said you're the greatest.
Very ironical that the recipient of the balloons You're the greatest,
ends up dead. I want to go to Jeff Cortesi,
FBI former special agent. Jeff, how do you go about
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tracking down who sold those balloons? I mean, I don't
know that. I don't think there was video at the time,
So you have to go to every single clerk at
every single grocery store. Yeah, absolutely, this is very nineteen
ninety n CCTV wasn't then what it is now. So
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it does take a getting out and going from shop
to shop and asking the right questions, and that is
a huge resource dream but that's what it takes sometimes
to get the lead you need to take you to
the next step. Leavipage crime online dot com. Where is
the husband in this scenario? Her husband is Michael Warren
and he ran a used car lot, car rental agency,
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and car reposition repossession business. So he had a car
lot and a report business. Isn't it true that he
had already been in trouble with the law for rolling
back oh dometers, Yes, and which is actually a federal offense.
He served about four years in prison for that and
financial crimes related to his business. Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Who is Sheila Kane cut to cut ten? Police take
a listen to this. What police did find in the
apartment was hair from the bathroom trash and a stunner
more orange fibers on clothing inside. She lives home. Detectives
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aren't saying if Keane is actually a suspect in the murder.
What they will say is that they are waiting for
test results on samples of hair and fibers taken from
search warrants. A police criminologist compared the samples of human
hair and the orange fibers from the car and the apartment,
and in both cases concluded the samples were similar. So
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this sounds like something, Well, you could put this in
front of a jury and potentially get a conviction. You could,
or maybe you couldn't. Similar is not the same man,
You are so right about that. Similar is not the saying.
Take a listen to our friend Peter van Sam. Four
days after the shooting, police got a huge break. They
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found a white baron maybe this was the getaway car.
They find it in the parking lot of a Win
Dixie supermarket. That supermarket is eight miles from the crime
scene and nine miles from Sheila Keane's apartment. Inside the car,
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police found two important clues. They find this orange synthetic
hair like the fibers from a clown wig. They also
find strands of brown human hair, brown hair like Sheila Keynes.
Within hours, police had a warrant to search her apartment.
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Investigation is to the woman who lives here at the
Pine Ridge Apartments off Haverhill Road. They didn't find a gun.
Sheila's a stranged husband told police they owned a thirty
eight Revolver, but that Sheila told him she misplaced it
about a month before the murder. Misplaced your gun. Remind
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me to circle back to misplacing your gun. But there's
so much right here. Stop everything. This woman has a
whiteless saber. It's abandoned a Wi DIXI parking lot, and
it's got orange fibers in it and a long brown
hair in it. That's a coincidence, I don't think so,
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So leave a page. Why would a completely unknown woman
what suddenly dress up like a clown not say word
and gun down? Marlane? Who is Sheila King? So? Sheila
Keane was twenty six years old in nineteen ninety. She
was married, but she worked for Michael Warren and Michael
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Warren's co workers people that worked for him say that
they were having an affair and that she had an
apartment that he was paying the rent for. You know what,
can you just surprise me one time? A co worker
they have an affair according to co workers, and you
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know you can't keep that kind of thing a secret.
Kurt Narmy, could you just one time surprise me and
it not be a love triangle with your co worker? Well,
I guess not, because that's clearly what the case was here,
and we saw we talked about that personalization element before,
and we can kind of see that correlation and that
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puzzle come together, Doctor Angela Arnold. Do they really think
the co workers don't notice they're sitting in each other's laps,
going out for lunch every day together. You think they
don't see that There's got to be some sort of
I don't think that they care. I think that they
are so into what they're doing that they have convinced
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themselves that other people around them do not see this behavior.
You know, another issue right here. To Jeff Cortesi, FBI
former Special Agent office, workers always know what's happening. They
always know. You can't keep that kind of thing as secret.
You can't in just like in you know, other situations
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similar to this. You know, the first place that anybody's
going to look is close to the home and then
work out. So the messagetors are going to start close
and work out. So when they start close and they
identify something like this, you know, a marital infidelity or
that's going to grab their attention right away and there's
no way to hide that stuff from people. Marital infidelity
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and the white less sabers actually stolen. So in the
stolen white less saber found abandon at a wind See
parking lot. What is the likelihood George's Squiro, the lab
director Scales Biological Lab, Inc. That you're going to find
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orange hair from a wig and long brown hair that
they say is similar to what was used, but without
the wig. How can they make a comparison? George Guiro, Well, Nancy,
what they can do is they can take those fibers,
those orange fibers, and run a series of chemical and
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microscopic analyses on them to determine what their chemical makeup is,
what's the structure of the fiber, what type of dye
was used, and they can give investigative information and also
the hair itself can also provide some forensic information that
might be of value. If that hair is still in
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couldn't it be compared even without a route, couldn't you
get mitochondrial DNA from the here found in the stolen
the saber and try to match it up to the mistress.
That's correct, metcy mitochondrial DNA would be the type of
analysis that would be used to make that type of comparison.
So isn't this true? Levi page climb online dot Com
investigative reporter that the neighbors that live near Sheila King
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actually thought that Warren the husband was her husband because
he was there all the time. And yet you are correct,
and they spent a lot of time together. Well you know,
you call it spending time together. I call it something else.
But for all the neighbors to think that was Sheila
King's husband, the killer clown? Is it the mistress the
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love rival? What happens after that? Guys? Take a listen
to unmask the Killer Clown twenty seven years at the
war and his gun down in the doorway of her
Florida home. The Palm Beach Post uncovers a salacious secret.
We're coming up on the twenty seventh anniversary of Rollan
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Warren's death, so my editor and I decided that I
should look into it. What she found out was that
Mike Warren and Sheila Keane the same people who denied
having an affair shortly after Marlene Warren was killed were
now husband and wife. Michael gets out of prison early,
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and what does he do. He seeks out the same
woman who was investigated for killing his wife. Think about it.
You don't marry a woman that you suspect that mighty
killed your wife. Mike Warren married Sheila Keane in Las
Vegas in two thousand and two, twelve years after his
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wife's murders. So he does time on that odominter charge.
Remember he works to use car lot connective, rolling back
the admins and tricking customers, gets out, goes straight to
Sheila King and marries her. That's pretty strong circumstantial evidence
to you, Kurt Narmy. Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
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You have motives, you have, you know, evidence of maybe
they got married to cover up after the fact. They
thought they were bringing on privilege or marital privilege. Who knows,
who knows if the husband even knew. But yes, the
circumstantial evidence is piling up in their actions after the fact.
Her actions in particular, show of consciousness of the old
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Let me understand something, Levi Page. The husband was not
in jail on the odometer charge at the time the shooting.
Was he No, he wasn't. That was years later, Nancy,
and he served time for that, and he actually got
out of prison and married Sheila Keen in two thousand
and two, and then they moved to Southern Virginia, a
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community right outside of Kingsport, Tennessee, a very upscale community
known for retirees moving there in the mountains, very beautiful,
and they lived there and she went by the name Debbie,
and they started a restaurant together called the Purple Cow.
And apparently they were very well liked. She changed her name.
She started going by an alias. Yes, Debbie, she was
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not going by Sheila. So they move away from the jurisdiction,
she changes her name, he gets rid of the car
a lot, and they start a restaurant called the Purple
Cow far away from the murder. Wow. Sounds a little
bit like they're on the run. Now. There's another report
that at the time of the shooting, he was in
fact in a car with a group of guys on
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the interstate. But long story short, he was nowhere near
the home at the time of the shooting. Is very
hard for me to believe, since these two, then getting
married after the murder, that he knew nothing about it.
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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Bombshell. Right now, this case,
over twenty seven years later, is going to trial. I'm
just wondering if there's any way they got a DNA
match on that hair found in the stolen lasaber, the
white lasaber identical to the one that left the scene
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of the murder. Take a listen now to unmask the
killer clown, the Homage County Sheriff's Office and the Washington
County Sheriff's Office of Virginia tracked Michael and Sheila. They
were cutting to Vermont for a vacation. He pulled the
car over and arrest Sheila, who's sitting in the passenger seat.
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While she lives in the loose car. She ask officers questions,
why are you arresting me? Are you arresting my husband?
Where are you taking me? Are you taking my husband
somewhere too? Once police get her into an interrogation room
and tell her what the case is about, she tells
them that she doesn't want to answer any more questions,
and she puts her head down. Sheila Keene is charged
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with first degree murder and extradited to Palm Beach County.
This is what we know. According to the detectives on
the case. They say DNA advances since the time of
Marlene's murder, combined with other evidence, have made this case
viable at trial. To George Skiro, special guests are joining
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us at DNA expert Lab director at the Scales Biological Lab, Inc.
George Skiro, what do they mean by advancements in DNA technology, Well, Nancy,
there's been a lot of advancements in the last several
years as far as DNA and nalysisco was. However, in
this case, mitochondrial DNA analysis is for a forensic cases,
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has probably been around since the mid nineties, So unless
they use some of the newer genetic genealogy technologies in
this case, it seems like it's pretty much standard mitochondrial DNA.
And what we're learning is that the killer clown investigators
use DNA from hair samples to make a cold case arrest.
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Because at one moment, the alleged killer, the mistress, Sheila
Keane Warren, is on her way to visitor a mom
and Vermont. The next minute she has been handcuffed and
plays in the back of a Virginia Sheriff's cruiser. She's saying,
where am I going? Why am I under arrest? She's
sitting back there in her jeans and flip flops. When
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she's told she's under arrest because of a murder, she
immediately puts her head down and refuses to answer any
further questions. Now, this is what we know DNA based
on hair samples. Again to George Skiro, the lab director
Skills Biological Labs, Inc. Try to explain that to me
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and regular people talk when we say hair samples have
managed to solve a twenty seven year old cold case
murder by a killer clown of all things, what are
they saying? Well, and see what they're saying is that
this mitochondrial DNA that was found in the hair samples
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in the vehicle matched the mitochondrial DNA profile of Sheila
Key Warrens. And this is not like the normal type
of DNA that we hear about every day. This one
isn't as specific because it's passed along maternal lines within
the family. We also know now that the clown was
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absolutely wearing gloves, a bulb nose, and a painted smile
over a white face. We also know that a pistol
was the murder weapon. I don't know about you guys,
but if I had a gun, I don't think I
would misplace it. The only person I've ever heard of misplacing,
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not that it was stolen, but misplaced a gun was
Robert Blake, who was acquitted by a jury in the
murder of his wife, Bonnie Lee Bakley. Well, he killed her,
just I hope the jury here's that. But I've never
heard of another case where a weapon was misplaced. That's
what she says. We know detectives collected samples of Sheila
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Keane's hair, vials of her blood, and a search warrant
because she was a suspect at the time. Now, when
her apartment was searched, Lee by page, what was found
in the apartment that can help me out on this
DNA comparison. So they found fibers that were red that
was consistent with the red of a wig of a
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clown inside of her appointment. We know that there was
a court ordered search of her home. In the apartment,
there were fibers from a bright orange wig. Not the wig,
but fibers and clothing that police were checking from bloodstains.
Similar bright red orange fibers were found in the stolen
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the saber in the reopened case. This may be the
key the FBI crime lab. That's where you come in,
Jeff Cortesi. The FBI crime Lab say matches were made
to fibers collected from the getaway car through a precise
DNA connection, that Sheila Keane is a possible source of
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the hairs. What does that mean to you? That means
that they are connecting the car to the suspect and
the wig to the suspect. The It is one more
piece in a chain of evidence that more completely tells
a story that gives the prosecutors a little bit more
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confidence to take to a grand jury and then subsequently
to a jury. Is it truly vi Page that almost
fifty four thousand dollars life insurance policy was paid to
Michael Warren at the death of his wife, and is
he also going to be indicted? That is true, Nancy,
that there was a life insurance about fifty grand that
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was awarded to him after she was murdered, Nancy, But
so far he has not faced any charges in the
murder of his wife, Sheila Keane. We wait as Justice,
Unfoles delayed, yes denied No. Nancy Grace Crime Store signing
off Goodbye FRI
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