258 - Abject Failure (2016)

On this re-airing of the post-2016 election episode, Karen and Georgia read Amazon product reviews and your hometowns.

*Note: This episode has been re-edited from the original posting.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh no, I just feel a little broken today.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Uh huh? Why Oh didn't I tell you? No, No,
I've been away. I was in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
The world's crashing down around our head.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh I didn't realize. Oh, yeah, it's true. Well, this
is The Day After, you guys, which is one of
the great nuclear war scare films from the eighties. I
really haven't seen it, and you want a different kind
of scare entertainment. The Day After is one of the
most upsetting things I was left alone to watch when

(01:10):
I was eleven years old.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I feel like that is the exact exact opposite of
what I need to be watching right now.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Considering the circumstances.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Do not watch it, which is that not only did
Hillary lose, Trump won the presidency.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, scared for her, Chilstein didn't come in as that
third party candidate to tear it away. Not only I
would have been fine. I would have been fine. Yeah.
You know what's funny is nothing at all. So let's
get this done. We just start fighting. What's funny that

(01:46):
it seems like, first of all, it's one hundred degrees
in Los Angeles today, so there's a hellscape feel to
all of life right now. That's very surreal, and it's
really quiet, it doesn't, I mean like it's very quiet.
People are like I feel like people are looking inside themselves.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
And are devastated, and I just want to like hold
everyone's hand that I see. Not that I left the
house much today, but when I did, it was like
I wanted to apologize to everyone who is going to
be fucked, you know, yeah, including us.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I mean, who knows in all different ways. But here's
what I was trying to do. This is what I did,
which I never do. I was just letting everybody merge
in front of me today, and I came anywhere near
me with a blanker on. I was like, go ahead,
I admire arm out the window, Go ahead, everybody go.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Maybe we'll all be friends now. Yeah, it's I mean,
I don't know. I was so cocky yesterday. You know
what I mean, yeah. The conversation I had with the
dude I ordered lunch from was so like he was
like I'm scared. I'm like, we're gonna be fine. Yeah,
we got this jokey joke. Yeah, and I want to
go back there and be like, I'm sorry I took
your fucking worry not seriously.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
But that's what it wasn't that you weren't taking it seriously.
That's what everybody was doing. Yeah, I mean I feel
like that's what everyone down to political pollar pundits were doing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
The faces on an uh matt out Maddox when her
when she kind of realized what was going on was
when I was like, goodbye, go into the wine bar.
Bothers me like okay, so and sorry, this is becoming
a political party, Like this is just so new and
we need to I'm just like, I don't know how
we're going to do this, but like it's it's when

(03:33):
Bush won, I was like, oh, well, everyone's going to
see what a mistake that was because it's going to
affect them. But the people that this is going to
affect aren't the people who voted for him. It's the
people who aren't are minorities. It's not going to affect
anyone who voted for And.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Also what's weird is there were some minorities that voted
for him. I mean there's there was a it was
a con. It's a lot con and you know, who knows.
Who knows. Hillary said we have to give him a
chance and see what happens. Who knows. But if you're stoked,
if you're stoked today, you know, we envy that position
that you think that you have solved a problem by

(04:11):
putting Donald Trump into the presidency. It must feel great. Yeah,
I personally was so thrilled the idea of a woman bega,
it was so exciting. Enjoy your naivity.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
And what's been great though, is that like for all
the posts I've put up and on on my favorite
murder boards and stuff, not a single person has responded
and been like fuck you, you know, like I think
everyone who follows us for my favorite murder reasons Nope, no, no,
you saw the shit?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah? Oh, come to Twitter, really, come to the bus
stop that is Twitter. See what people are really saying.
I mean, it's a nice idea, but no, okay, which
is why I don't think we should talk about politics,
because that's basically just telling people don't be interested in this. Okay,
let's start then, unless you don't.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Want to start, I mean, let's start the podcast.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Any anything, any housekeeping? Do you have no housekeeping? I
thought I probably did yesterday. I guess that I can
talk about the thing I loved which I saw on
the Facebook page, which was there was a Murderino meetup
in Colorado that was so awesome, Like I kept looking
at the picture this morning. It really gave me a

(05:29):
lot of good feeling. This morning. I went straight to
that Facebook page like the second I woke up and
just looked at all these people communicating with each other
and the thing that they wrote about about this meetup
of all these people talking about this thing that they're
interested in, but then also talking about getting a self
defense class started. They were just and they like all

(05:52):
look like they're just kind of hanging with friends. They
all looked they look like people who all went to
high school together. It looked like a group of people. Yeah,
and that's I find that incredibly touching that people. To me,
at the end of the day, that's what it's all about.
It's like people are actually connecting with the other human
beings making them. Yeah, did I tell you?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Speaking of making friends, Oh, I've to tell you about
my acupuncturist and how I went. I've been seeing her
for like a few a couple of months now for
the sciatica issue, and she's been really fucking helping me.
And she's this wonderful, like soft spoken, sweet person. She
reminds me of like a kindergarten teacher.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
And wait is it? Where is it?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I seem still were like, oh, at the doo, It's
not at the doao of No, okay, shout out to Holly.
She I came into to get my acupuncture this week
last week and she was like, so one of my
clients knows I'm into true crime and said to me,
you need to listen to this podcast. And she's like,
I listened to three episodes of it before. I was like,
I wonder who these girls are. And then she's like,

(06:53):
then I looked at it.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
I was you.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
I don't even know it was me while she was listening,
but she's like, I like it a lot. And then
of course to me her hometown murder where she's fucking
awesome San Diego and about like a girl who got
killed from high school and her mom got killed, and
it turned out that they were into dealing drugs and shit,
and the cops initially thought that it was like the

(07:17):
serial killer that was going around with the time, and
they're like, it doesn't fit the m O, but maybe
it is. And then they found out that they were
dealing drugs.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
And wow, I know that just reminded me. I had
a similar experience at the rat party for my job.
I'm not gonna be able to remember her name now.
It might be Cassie, it might be something with a no,
but anyway, I met a Cassio keyboard from the eighties

(07:44):
and I put it on Bosonova and danced by myself
at a ratty yelling murder. Though that it was basically, Oh,
I got to get the murder of me. You know, Karen,
stop it, you're sober, Karen. This is why this is
a rat lart. It's because we all wanted to get
actually still going on. We're just trying to convince you
that it's over. We're trying to wrap you personally. We're

(08:04):
trying to be nice, so I wouldn't be surprised. But
anyway she works. I can't remember where she works somehow
on the show.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Sorry, her name is something and she works for her.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Name is something. She means the world to me. She
works somewhere and she's blonde. She was so sweet. She
works for the show somehow, but like in a like
for the network or for publicy or something where it's
not in our office or whatever.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
So it's okay that you're like you didn't work with
her for four months and then.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Never seen her, never met her. Also, there's a chance
she doesn't work on the show and it was her
roommate that works on the show, now that I'm thinking
about it. But end of the day, the fun part
is she she listened to the podcast and wanted to
know what show I was working when I would talk
about it, and then she so she goes and then
I saw you here. Now I know what show you've

(08:57):
been working. It's very fun and exciting. I have.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I just remembered now now that I'm this fog of
depression is lifting over me a little bit because I'm
laughing for the first time.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, since yesterday. It's key, It's crucial, it really is.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
So to one the Americana in Glendale. I go into
Madewell who makes great jeans, great expensive jeans. This is
like my first time my life not buying ten dollars jeans.
And I get a pay I buy, I go, I
go to put one on. I go to grab a pair,
and then of course the ones that are on top
fall to the ground as they do. Right as this

(09:32):
like sweet girl comes up to me to like can
I help? And I thought, I was like, I'm so sorry.
I was like, I'm the I'm sorry making a message.
She's like scared because these jeans are expensive, right, And
I just toppled a bunch of and she's like, are
you Georgia And I was like yes, and she's like,
we listened to we we heard that the Jay Cruse
shout out that you had done and like will we
do that too? No?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yes, they were so sweet. We've spread to the Americana.
The Americana made well, ladies, what's up? Shall try girls
and go?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
And then yesterday I think I just met girls, so
it's okay. Yesterday I went to this French restaurant in
Echo Park to try to watch the End of the World.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
And it was still crowded for me. But as I
walk in this table, like hi, Hi.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
At me, and I just high back because I don't
ever recognize anyone, you know, and they're like murdering. I
was like, oh god, I don't know, and they were
just random, fucking wow Jesus.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
That's so. That's three. I feel like this part of
the podcast might to an outsider, yeah seem oh yeah,
self indulgent, but as we have had to answer in
even that is what I'm trying to say is that
this is very new to us, and so when these

(10:46):
things happen, it's still hilarious and fun for us and
exciting and it's its own, you know, it's like greeting's
corner or whatever, where.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's like meeting friends you didn't know you had, and
it's so exciting just to be like to meet these
like cool people who are no one's been crazy to
me there there are very few crazy. And then when
it stretches out to like my fucking acupuncturists, who, by
all accounts is like a nice, normal human being, and
she's like, I like it, what are they supposed to be?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Like?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Mind body? And she's like, my body murder totally is Holly, Holly,
She's so great.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
What if anyone needs in silver Lake and recommendation for
a very acupuncturist.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Hit me up on.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Twitter because clearly I never go there and don't know
how awful people are.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
You do know the password?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah? I go, I go there.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Okay, you do know that you can play some of
the rains and updates. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
No, No, I didn't you know.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I know. No, I'm all about the Instagram right now,
my favorite murder Instagram.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Real nice people. I mean, what we're saying is there's
nice people everywhere, and it's nice to know, and it's
nice to remind each other, Yeah, and keep saying hi,
and we'll try to do the same and maybe remember
your name or where you worked. She was the nicest person.
It seems nice. One I can't remember. CALLI someone. She
looked like she was from the Midwest.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
She's so happy, Cassio. I feel like, you know, let's
talk about something else. Let's talk about another like, let's
get our minds off an awful Okay.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Here's a transitional awful topic. Okay. The woman who has
found chained like a dog inside the metal container in
North Carolina. They have found four bodies on the property.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Four bodies buried and so far that fucking Amazon shit.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh yes, that's so many people sent me that. Did
you look at it? Yes? I didn't look at it.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
So this guy who's like by all accounts, a serial killer,
who already had a record for a child molestation.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Rape at gunpoint, rape.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
At gunpoint, somehow, that's just again, let's just make everything awful.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
He has been.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Commenting on the tools he's used to kill people and
chain them up on Amazon, reviewing them and saying shit
like uh, this if I haven't killed anyone with this yet,
but when I do, this will be a great tool.
Like I'm straight up admitting like this, this change, this
padlock is great for chaining people like, oh dude, I

(13:21):
think it's still up there too. I think the cops
are looking into it. So they've been taking them down yet.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Maybe that's I feel like that's second only to my
favorite internet comments, which are on those sugar free gummy bears,
my God, which is now, let's just turn this around here.
Here's we're gonna we're gonna just remining for positivity. FDA,
Should I find a couple? Yeah, yes, if you want to, Okay,
so and I'll just I'm sure everybody knows this. It's

(13:47):
kind of legendary. But if you don't, I don't think
a lot of people know this. So they these this
gummy bear company made their own version of sugar free
gummy bears and they were for sale on Amazon. And
the reviews for these show sugar free gummy bears that
have that contain some chemical it's called sugar alcohol. Okay,

(14:07):
so sugar alcohol apparently makes you shit your pants does
so there are reviews where people were like, oh my god,
I was shitting all day. Like people just talking about
these gummy bears just wreaking havoc on their intestinal system,
and they just get more ridiculous and poetic as they go.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
People are really like being there's a lot there's a
few different places of like products that people will pick
up on and cover like there's like a single bigpen
and it's just like people are talking about like time
travel and what the big pen is done for them.
This makes me happy. Yes, it's kind of gross, do it?

(14:48):
I mean, well, here's one. Be sure to also buy
a top of oxyclean with this to get the blood
and diary. It stands out of your underwork clothes, furniture, pets,
loved one ceiling veans. Let's see. Oh my god, everything
previously written is true. It's all true. Don't eat more
than fifteen in a sitting unless you were trying to
powerwash here intestines.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Of the cramping started.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
About an hour later, and soon enough I was I
was as bloated as a balloon and Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade.
When the rumbling started, I sprinted down the hallway and
made it to the bathroom just in time for the
four horsemen of the apocalypse to stampede from my backside
Langwis to my home's uptic system and my will to live.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
After three hours.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
With pelvis shaking gummy barresalt, I was spongy and weak,
surprised that I had any bones left. I cursed how
horri bo horribo with the little strength I could muster.
But here's the clothing about them. Is that people, and
it's in the reviews, people with like really bad illnesses
who get constipated. I think, can't. I think the leu

(15:52):
chemo makes you unable to shit. You are now like
recommending them take two like posts, yes, yes, like it's
relieving constipation.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I sat in my friend Stephanie and I sat in
her car one day and I just read them and
we were both crying. You're just crying.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Last there's a banana slicer that's a good one too.
If you ever get sad and bored tonight slicer reviews.
There's banana slicer reviews that are just hilarious.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
What was I going to say, Yeah, don't eat sugar alcohol,
be careful. It's in a lot of stuff and I've
eaten it before and it makes you so bloated, you're
in so much pain.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Wow, I've never even heard of that.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, it'll say it's it's in a lot of stuff
and you think, oh, it's just sugar because it's a
sugar alcohol.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's fucking terrible. Wow. Yep, it's like a sugar substitute.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, it's like a I think it's an app an
extraction of sugar that they take and they're like, it's
sugar free. Oh yeah, don't eat that.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Just use sugar, guys, Just use sugar. Ultimately, at the
end of the day, except for those of you who
have quit sugar Karen named Karen, I'm so impressed with you.
Thank you as a sugar addict. Well, one set of
your system and you don't crave it anymore. That's the
shocking part. But what if I still craved cake?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Like I don't want sugar but I want cake, you
know what I mean, it's like a different.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
You're making up. What's going to happen to you? Yeah,
what you're.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Saying, well, like I know, and you don't crave sugar
like you're not like I want something sweet, but I
want cake. But it's a different thing. No, but it's
like I want a piece o cake.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah. Well that's just an idea that's true that they
need to go psychological for not just Yeah, I mean
I think all of it's kind of psychological. Yeah, should
we just not talk about murders? But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I feel like it's like, yeah, that sucks.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
We touched upon it, and I may we really have.
We've danced around it a lot.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Let's have this one be all about let's just read
review funny reviews this whole episode. I mean, I wouldn't
mind it, we kind of could. Do you want to
look at the banana sl Yes? Let me see if
I can find any So I want me to read
you another Yes? Okay, I have a good one, but
it's also like, is it better than what's happening right now?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
I want to read a good one. Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
After a few hours, I had an extreme build up
of gas with no relief Alia could was laid down
and pray for a fart. That might sound funny, but
when you've eaten something that has basically turned you into
into the blueberry girl from Lily Wanka, you're pleading.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
With your life. Violet Boarguard is her name.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
There's like, Okay, I want to find the big pen one.
Let's see big.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I just found banana slicer. Okay, read it, and this
is a BuzzFeed article, so you can actually find it. Okay,
it's the article called Amazon reviews of this plastic banana
slicer are just the best. So here's the first one.
For decades, I've been trying to come up with an
ideal way to slice banana use a knife. They say, well,
my prole officer won't allow me to be on the knives.

(18:55):
Shoot it with a gun background check. Hello. I had
to resort to carefully attempt to slice these those bananas
with my bare hands. Ninety nine point nine percent of
the time, I would just get so frustrated that I
just end up squishing the fruit in my hands and
throwing it against the wall and anger. Then, after a
fit of banana induced rage, my pro officer and to
introduce me to this kitchen Marvele, and my life was changed.

(19:18):
What can I say about this five seven to one
be banana slicer that hasn't already been said about the wheel, penicillin,
or the iPhone. This is one of the greatest dimensions
of all time. My husband and I would argue constantly
over over who had to cut the day's banana slices.
No one's It's one of those chor chores no one
wants to do, you know, the old I spend the

(19:40):
entire day rearing our children. Maybe you can pitch in
and cut these bananas. And of course you think I
have the energy to slave over your damn bananas. I
worked a twelve hour shift just to come on to these,
to this, I mean, this fucking thing goes on for
like seven more.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Parent, I love it, all right, let me find one
banana slicer.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
It's like a play, It's like people getting their creativity.
I love the Amazon.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay, the ten here's the thought catalog has the ten
best reviews for a big pens for her. Someone has
answered my gentle prayers and finally designed a pen that
I can use all month long. I use it when
I'm swimming, riding a horse, walking in the beach, and
doing yoga. It's comfortable, leak proof, non slip, and it
makes me feel so feminine and pretty. Since I've been

(20:22):
using these pens, men have found me more attractive and approachable.
It's given me soft skin and manageable hair, and it's
really given me the self esteem I needed to start
a book club and flirt with the bait the bag
boy at my local market. My drawings of kittens and
ponies have improved. And now that I'm writing my last
name hyphenated with the Robert with Robert Patterson's last name,
I really believe he may someday marry me.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I'm positively giddy.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Those smart men and marketing have come up with a
pen that my lady parts can really identify with. Where
has this pen been all my life?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's the big pen for her for her, and it's
like pink and probably.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
A piece of shit drink pen with Oh my god,
so stupid. I do think we should do murders.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, I mean just because there's some there's some Trump
lovers who are like, hey, can I have my favorite show? Hey?
Why can't I have what I want? Oh? Right in
twenty sixteen America. Wait a second, I want something, Give
it to me. Now. Cut that part out, Steenen, No,
don't just want something, Give it to me now. I'll

(21:21):
go first this week. Please, instead of asking, I'll volunteer. Please,
I'll throw myself in front of the train. Please. And
here's why it's that, because it does someone get that
actually happened recently? Did you see that? Yes, that they
thought she would They said it was a suicide, and
then when they checked the tape, the girl was clearly
unconscious and the guy put her on the tracks.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
That one, yes, But also in New York a woman
pushed a girl onto the tracks. What and it's happened
a couple I like it. Then it was like going
on to me, tell you all the times that's happened
in the past, like a few years.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Why did do they know why? I think this woman
just was like crazy cuckoo.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, I was trying to put it delicately, but that
sounds better than like mentally ill, because we don't call
it mentally ill anymore.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
She's crazy cuckoo. Yeah, today, could you please give us
a pass today? Can you give us a break? Could
I have five minutes to myself?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
If I have one thing I wanted life? Can I
have one fucking win today in just once? No, the
answer is no, you can't. You under three?

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Pretty soon I'm going to be in a constant. Is
that a fire? What? Oh fucking neighbors they like.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yes, it's a fire in their barbecue that they like
next to their fucking house.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Oh my god, I scared me too. That was like
a movie where in the corner of my eye I
saw pink and red flickering and you're like, huh, where
it's that's? That was like something from the Omen.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
No, it's gonna be these motherfuckers they like put they
put it's the people with the screaming children. They put
fucking like lighter fluid on their barbecue. Literally, tell them
how far it's it's an alleyway, yes, and it's next
to the.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
We're not close. And I saw the fire.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Flames, Yeah, shooting at Jesus Christ. They do it all
the time. And then they're going to be out there
for fucking hours. It's I need to move so bad.
I need to I'm just a break I'm having a breakdown. Hi,
I'm just not having a good time. I mean, none

(23:24):
of us are good life right now?

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah? All right, So then this week we're just going
to read your hometown murders. Yeah, as our main thing. Yeah. Oh,
this starts off with a very professional note, and it
says in the note colon, in the unlikely event you
refer to this story on air or publicly, please do

(23:47):
not share my name or email address. Anonymous is good enough.
I love your podcast and look forward to each one
every week. Thanks for being awesome. Let's give out that
email address. I love that. It's so reasonable. Yeah, it's
exactly what I needed that first time I gave that
woman's full information. There's a second piece of information there

(24:08):
that I'll tell you after the podcast. That's really good,
But I don't think I should read it since I
think it would indicate who this person is. Is it
a famous person? It's a they have a connection to
a famous serial killing team.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
And their email addresses Justin at Timberlake DOTWN.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
His publicist is a real bee, so we give out
his all right, So here's what Anonymous has to say.
My parents moved us to the Santa Cluta Valley, near
Magic Mountain and the site of the San franc France
San Francis Quito Damn disaster in nineteen eighty eight. Santa
Clutter was then an underdeveloped and had a lot of

(24:50):
wooded hills and was more of a small town. People
noticed new people moving in and local shops would call
you by your first name. We didn't even have to
lock our car doors. That's what my town is. In
nineteen eighty nine, a little girl named Sarah Hodges disappeared
in New Hall. She was only seven years old, and
her parents assumed that she had maybe wandered off and
gotten hurt, or was it a friend's house and hadn't told them.

(25:11):
A citywide search was immediately put into place, including house
to house searches, dogs, mounted police, helicopter's, neighborhood volunteers searching
the brush and woods. One of the volunteers was her
fourteen year old neighbor named Curtis Cooper. Curtis had been
living with his father in Florida until a few months before,
and now lived with his mom, Crystal, in a room
she rented from missus Kasmar. It was rumored that Curtis

(25:35):
and Crystal both slept in the same large waterbed in
a single room. Missus Kasmar's house was five doors away
from Sarah's house. Curtis used to play with Sarah and
sometimes went horseback riding with her, and was one of
the first to volunteer for her when she disappeared. Red
but this sounds familiar, it does? I think you've done that?
I do the one where it's waterbed. Oh no, because

(25:59):
he lived in a house. Oh we did them.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
No, Yeah, but it's very familiar, very similar to the
murder I did once.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, it's slightly older boy and little girl and and waterhole.
Totally same thing. Okay. The dogs amounted, police, the neighbors,
and the house to house search including Missus Kaismar's house,
turned up nothing. Sarah's face was everywhere, and she was
the talk of the schools. She was the lead news
story every night and in all the papers. How could
a seven year old just disappear in this small, sleepy

(26:27):
shit kickerytown. Shortly after Sarah disappeared, the coopers had a
fan blowing out their window running day and night. Missus
Kaso Kazmar thought it was odd that the fan was
blowing out instead of in, and that it was going
all the time. She also began to smell something of
fowl from the Cooper's room and finally went to investigate
while they were both out. Hell yeah, missus Kasmar, rock

(26:51):
the cows. See you still got it, You still got it.
Just always rock the Kasmar. Four days after she had appeared,
Missus Kasmar, some reports say it was Crystal found the
fully clothed, decomposing body of Sarah Hodges. She was wedged
between the wall and the headboard of the water bell.

(27:11):
She was in there with both of them. Yeah, Curtis
and Crystal had slept with Sarah beneath their heads with
the fan blowing for three days. What the fuck? At first,
the news reported that maybe Sarah had been playing hide
and go seek and had wedged herself into tightly and
snapped herneck. That was a story the coopers were selling anyway. However,
an examination revealed Sarah had been strangled and sexually assaulted.

(27:34):
It was thought that she was murdered in Curtis's room
and hidden there only a few hours before the deputies
searched the house. Oh my god. Uh. It turns out
that Curtis had been in trouble in Florida and had
been arrested for committing several petty thefts and burglaries and
basically had to leave. Curtis claimed he had been looking
for help for years for his quote severe emotional problems,

(27:55):
but in Florida he was quote shifted from agency to
agency without ever rec even proper treatment. Apparently, whatever Curtis
had done, it was bad enough for Florida not to
want him. The person wrote that, and I guess it was.
According to the deputy district attorney who prosecuted him, Curtis
had planned the murder about a week before it, planned it,

(28:17):
planned it, and also planned but never carried out carried
out a similar murder two years earlier, while in Florida,
when he would have been around twelve or thirteen. Holy shit,
rosenbet Oh. That deputy district attorney had claimed that Curtis
had a belief that he had to kill to have
sexual relations. Although he was found by the court experts

(28:38):
to have some brain damage, it was not enough for
an insanity defense. Curtis was convicted of a murder with
a special allegation of sexual assault and received twenty five
years to life, although California Youth Authority could only actually
hold him until he's twenty five. What which would have
been in the year two thousand, Oh my god. Four
months after Sarah was found, her father went to her gravesite,

(28:59):
sat vigil all night, then shot and killed himself over
her grave. He was only thirty six. Oh honey, all
of them. Oh anonymous, that was a really good email.
Who was my lasting? That kid? Then?

Speaker 2 (29:13):
You know, like, you don't just become a sexual predator
at twelve.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I mean he lived in Florida. Any fucking thing that
it could have been, like a clown in his closet.
The worst things happen there.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
This will just go to show you how important it
is to fund mental health facilities and get people that
mental health and for the government to not defund and
all the.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Goodbye, it's already been defunded. We haven't had that so long.
That's fair, But I got I guess presidency, it's going
to come back. Yeah time, No, for sure. I feel
like that empathetic yep, you know, hold up your brother,
care for others, positive works that's it's going to be happening.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, it's going to be beautiful. It's a brand new day.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Mm hmmm. All right, this is from.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Jacqueline and that of course I've read this because all
cap subject line is at around Deck nightmare, full on
fucked up.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Ladies. Hello.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Love the podcast obviously, but I'll get right to the
point here. My brother told me the story yesterday. That
is fiance's cousin. Fasten your seatbelts, motherfuckers, she wrote, motherfuckers.
My soon to be sister in law's cousin was going
through some shit, so her dad suggested she go up
to their house and at around Decks for a few
days to clear her head.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
God, that sounds nice, doesn't it. I would love to
be there right this. Let's go because also it wouldn't
be one hundred and five.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
It also wouldn't be a hundred and five she And
then also that would mean someone had money in your family,
because having a house in the at around decks, that's
got to be like famin, don't they have their own chair,
even have their own chair.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
It's an area of the country that has its own chair,
and it's a comfy chair.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Rich you have to be like, it's a chair that's
supposed to that you're supposed to have a mohido in
one hand.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yes, you know what I mean. It's a relaxing in
the summertime chair. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
She went up for a long weekend had been hearing
some noise in the events and just around the house,
but she knew her dad had been having issues with
squirrels in the house recently. I bet it's not squirrels.
Squirrel So she didn't think anything of it and just
wrote it off for a few days.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Bad idea, that's what. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Finally, after a few days, she calls her dad and
tells them about the noises she's been hearing, and he
tells her just to call the police to sort it out,
as you do. She's reluctant at first because she doesn't
want to bother the police if it's nothing, and then
she wrote fuck politeness. But her dad, I don't want
to bother the police.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I don't want to bother the police's job it is
to check things out. Yeah, so I'm just gonna get murdered.
I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
But her dad convinces her to call, so she does
listen to a man when he tells you what to do.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Oh, man, she tells, so angry, just attacking anyone comes in.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Dad was like, honey, I'm worried about you.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Called that dad. Fuck the add around deck chair, fuck
at all.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
She tells the police the deal and they say, sure,
we'll come check it out. Are you alone in the house,
to which she replies yes, And they say, okay, no problem,
we'll come check it out. Just give us a few hours.
No more than five minutes later, squad of police cars
roll up to her house, lights and sirens, ablazon and
tell her to get out of the house now, come outside.
Turns out there was a fucking man in her basement

(32:15):
the entire time, building a fucking cage to fucking keep
her in.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
No what he was building the cage in her house.
Yet she had gone on a.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Date with this man a few weeks prior, and he
had been stalking her ever since. He followed her upstate
and casually fucking began building a goddamn cage to keep
her in.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
In her basement. This is all her in.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
The basement of her own house. I wish I'd say
this for last, because how are we going to be
the no, I know this is the one to be.
The cops were able to figure it out because when
she told them she was alone in the house, they
saw or her and I'm not sure that someone else
was on the phone line in the house. When I'm
yelling it's all her, all caps, but also me freaking
the fuck out. They saw that someone else was on

(32:58):
the phone line in the house. That's some straight out
of a scary story. You tell it a slumber party shit,
she says.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
That is, it's like it. That's an urban legend for sure. Yeah,
she probably made it up easy.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Sorry, I don't be Jackie, I mean the sister.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
No, suse, She's fine.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
The craziest thing to me is that this dick weed
had plenty of time to do whatever he wanted with
this girl, but he was keeping her like a pet
until the.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Very right moment to do god knows what.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Thank god, nothing happened to her and she was able
to stay sexy and not get cage murdered.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Keep up the good work, ladies. Bye, Oh my god,
thank you, Jackie. Jackie. That was nut so epic that
do you want to know what that reminded me of? Yes,
I just had a recovered memory. No, something happen to you, Yes,
but it doesn't it clearly it's not going to I
hope it's not. It's not sum But this was I

(33:54):
came home from being so after I lived in Sacramento,
I moved back home right to live with my parents
for a year because I've had failed college and I've
failed life, and so I could go back home and
live with my parents to just be a failure. That's
always fine. I did that too, but I would drive
up to Sacramento to hang out with my friends because
my whole social circle was like an hour and a

(34:15):
half away. Really sucked a lot. So this one time
I came home and I was going to go downtown
to meet somebody I can't remember, it's like a bar
or whatever. And I was blow drawing my hair, and
also we had this cat that was acting crazy, just
being super weird and flinching and doing weird shit, and
I kept going like, what is why are you doing?

(34:37):
And so I heard a loud noise while I was
blow drawing my hair, so I turned the blow draf
and I just stand there and then I'm hearing like
very faint noises, so like like a tick here almost
like house settling. Yeah, I like someone moving slowly through
the house, yeah, or just the house settling, like I
can't tell yeh. So I go into my parents' room

(34:58):
and they had a their closet had its own door
on it, and I go to open the door and
there it's it won't open, like it's like someone's pushing
back on the door, Karen, and so I run out
of the house, get into my car and drive to

(35:18):
my old house because this was the house we moved
into when I was at in the city exactly I move,
I drive out to and this is also you know what,
maybe I wasn't going out because it was like late
at night. It's like eleven o'clock at night. I go
out to my old neighbor, Andy Whington's, and I wake
him up. Him and his roommate Craig. We're like sleeping
in this weird part of their house and I'm like,

(35:42):
there's someone in my house. You have to come with me.
I get them to come back to the house with me.
They're all like buoyed up, Yeah, let's check this shit out.
We go in, We're looking around everywhere, and then Andy
goes to open that door, that bathroom, the closet door,
and he opens it and it was like kind of stuck. Yeah,

(36:05):
So I was like, oh, that's probably what it was.
And then as we're both standing, he's like it was stuck.
You're so stupid, and I'm like, oh yeah. And then
I look up and there's one of those attic holes. Yeah,
and the attic hole thing is turned to the side,
and I was just like look. I just pointed up
at him and he's like, holy fuck. And we ran

(36:27):
out and called nine one one, Oh my gosh, and
the Peddlum police because it's a tiny town where there
like literally like in two minutes, there was a cop
walking in my backyard like sneaking around. It was crazy.
And then I had to give this whole thing and
there was no one there and it was no one
and it was nothing. And I don't know why they
looked up in the attic like they looked everywhere and

(36:49):
it was nothing. It was something. It was so crazy
and scary also because in between the time where I
thought someone was pushing back on my parents closet door,
jumping into the driving out to the country to get
Andy Whittington was like one of the scariest things I've
ever done.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Because you're like someone's following me or in my backseat
or just what is happening like, But that doesn't make it, Okay,
that doesn't make any sense that those both those things
happened together, especially the second part, Like the.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Only thing is the second part. It could have already
been like that, and I just never knew. It was
like one of those things you don't notice. Sure, So
what did your parents say? My Dad's like, you need
to take it easy. Of course, thanks dad. I was like,
oh drama, Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Men fucking belittling women and they're fucking This was something
that Georgia just got militant.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Are you ready for everything you could ever want in
a murder story? Yeah, because that's what I got right
here from Lauren Cool. She said, Okay, this may end
up a little long, but it's totally worth it. I
grew up in a small Northwest suburb of Chicago. My
whole life. I've been hearing about the Columbo murders. It
happened around the corner from the house I grew up in,
but I wasn't born until ten years later. Here goes

(38:02):
in nineteen seventy six, Patty Colombo and her loser boyfriend
De Luca broke into the home she grew up in
and murdered her mother, father, and thirteen year old brother.
The father, Frank, was shot by DeLuca and then bludgeoned
with a bowling trophy by Patty. Ooh, that symbolic. That's
not good. Patty's mom, Mary was found cowering in the bathroom.
She was shot between the eyes, which medical examiners said

(38:25):
killed her before she even hit the floor, and then
her throat was slit. Oh, you know, just to be sure.
Here's the most fucked up part. And this is bad
because it's her thirteen year old brother. Eh. Her brother
Michael thirteen, had slept through the initial attack, so Patty
and her boyfriend De Luca woke come up by shooting
at him. Then Patty stabbed her brother eighty seven times

(38:47):
with sewing scissors. Oh my gosh. When he was found,
officers thought he had a case of the measles, but
then they realized his measles were little gashes all over
his body. Holy shit. Patty and DeLuca then set the
thumb stout to ninety seven left the house. The bodies
weren't found until three days later, when Patty was informed

(39:09):
of the murders. Instead of rushing to their side, she
started pointing fingers to potential leads and even tried to
tie the mob Chicago, what up? Tie in the mob? Sorry?
At the funeral, she was openly flirting with detectives who
with a detective who was playing the role to make
Patty crack. After more digging, they found a bunch of

(39:30):
fucked up shit, like a film of Patty having sex
with de Luca's German shit. No no, oh oh no
the dog. She wrote, like, how does that even work? No, no, no, Lauren,
this is terrible, this is terrribing. Well, oh so her boyfriend,

(39:57):
Patty's boyfriend was thirty six and she was sixteen. Shut
up yep uh ew and he was married with five kids.
What the fuck your man? Fuck everything? Ugh? Oh they
got indeterminate life sentences, which really means two hundred to
three hundred years. Holy shit, So good a little justice

(40:19):
got served there. Good god. That had I mean, Lauren,
when you said this is it had everything you could
ever want a murder story. It had a lot of
things I did not want. Yeah, did not want. That's true,
I have never wanted totally.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Oh, this one is from Mary and it's called My
Husband's Murder House. Hey, George and Karen, I've been binging
on your podcast over the past two months, and I
drive to and from work since I tope my puppy
with me so that I can drop him off at
Donkey Daycare.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
He's been binge listening too, and his cute puppy.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Face makes it easy to get through the more depressing
parts of your podcast.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Uh picture please?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
You twore hilarious though, and I feel much better trained
to avoid ever getting murdered.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Thanks. Okay, so she has two murders.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Let's just try this one and see if it's good
enough to get to the second one. Yeah, the first
took place in my husband's previous house, and he my
husband met the murderer. My husband sold his home near Columbus,
South Carolina to Shedderick and Kia Miller. The sound made
up in twenty twelve, about a year before we met.
The couple appeared to be very happy and moved into

(41:30):
the house with their two small children. Skip ahead a
year or so in January twenty fourteenth, Shedderick's mother hadn't
heard from him in several days and went to his
house to check on him. She found the two children,
aged three and one so sad, dead in their beds,
and the couple dead in their bed just down the hall.
According to the police investigation, the mother and two children
had been shot in the head by the father husband,

(41:52):
and then Shedderick turned the gun on himself. A little
crazy to believe, especially since no one suspected anything was
wrong with the family. They held Bible studies in their
home and church members, so they didn't show any signs
of having problems.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Same from the neighbors. What about holding Bible studies in
their home. But I'm inviting people into your home, fucking psychopaths.
Get out of my home.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I mean, I'm getting my carpet clean tomorrow, and I
want to charge everyone who's ever been in my apartment
to get my carpets.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Oh that's a good idea, isn't it. Yeah, it's just
I'll give you like seven dollars.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Perfect, thank you, Steven, you in for a couple bucks,
I'll give you five.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Thank you. Oh yeah, okay, let's see.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Kia's sister came forward shortly after, though, and stated that
Kia had talked to her about Shudderick's overbearing control of her,
but that since he wasn't violent towards her, Kia thought
she'd be okay. One positive of the story is that
Kia's sister is now sharing her sister's abuse story and
her own experience is in an abusive relationship with others
in an effort to help women in the same situation.

(42:52):
The other story is a little more unnerving for me
and a warning to single ladies to be very careful
about who you get involved with. I'm now sorry I
have to read it.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
The others story is more unnerving than the story you
just read. I think you should I do you Munds.
I mean, this is a this is a fucking yeah,
this is a fucking shit show. This is everything is
going wrong. Episode forty two is an abject failure.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yep, it's called this episode's going to be called abject failure, right.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
The victim, Jennifer Wilson, was my professor for a graduate course,
and I want to express that she was an intelligent, compassionate,
caring and beautiful woman who I had the greatest respect for.
I'm gonna guess she's dead now, probably. I mean anyways,
and she just talks about something totally different. Yeah, And
the loss of her life impacted a lot of people.
She was brutally killed by Hank Hayes on in twenty eleven.

(43:47):
She had met Hank Hayes through a dating site and
they dated on and off for a little while. Hayes
Hjwees is Hayes or is that hot?

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Hayes? Right? How hate jw Ees. Hawes was a little.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Obsessed with Jennifer though, and not in a good way.
I mean one's a good way. I mean she picked
up on his She picked up on this and made
an effort to end the relationship, but he refused to
let her move on. He would constantly text her and
wouldn't leave her alone. He showed up to her home
in the middle of the night when evening and attacked her.
One of her neighbors heard her pleading for her life

(44:22):
and called the police. When they arrived, Jennifer had beane
stabbed twelve times in her neck and upper body, and
had defensive wounds on her arms. Her body and hair
had been clean. She was unclothed, wrapped in a duvet
cover and placed on her couch. Hawes was still in
the home, his clothes soaked in blood and he had
slit his wrists. He was tried for Jennifer's murder and

(44:44):
it only took the jury thirty minutes to determine he
was guilty. He is currently serving a life sentence without parole. Hugh,
what a wrenched man. Ladies, watch out for yourselves, hug
your puppies and cats, and don't get murdered. Thanks again
for the awesome podcast.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Mary. I feel like I saw that story where the guys,
uh like on an i D channel, like some kind
of stalking show, because oh yeah, there's a stocked awful stock.
I mean, they have every version of every horrible thing
that's happened to people as a series, did I marry?

(45:18):
I mean that's a show. What about swamp kin or
something or swamp killers or swamp killers just only only
murders and swamps. Then they have just.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Ones of siblings only what else is there to have
used Mason jars only to kill people?

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Oh you mean Martha, Martha Sewart murders. It's called shot
the Shabby. She murders. She thought she was glassy, but
she was just cheap. Turns out she.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Wanted a light stain on her old bookcase and that
would be the end of her and then but instead
the stain was of blood on her carpet.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
It would be fun to be in one of those
those voiceover people for the ID channel. Yeah, could you
kind of talk like this? And then you talk like
this and the reality is and then it's scary down here.
Everything's fine and you're wonderable, but then.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
And then you go into the basement and something happens.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Do you want to do one more? You done? I mean,
let's see. I think I marked one more. Okay, why
don't you? Let's see? Why don't you? Why not?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Oh wait, I've just found another one. Okay, you go ready?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Oh this is this is one that I got excited
when I saw because we already talked about this. This
firsthands is from Stephanie and the subject line is the
story is Everything My favorite murder Dreams slash Nightmares are
made of. Hello, ladies, First and foremost, I love your
podcast and I can't get enough. I recently started listening

(46:56):
and got my mom hooked. Toya, I'm pretty sure. I'm
pretty sure my husband is deeply unsettled by this and
doesn't understand my true crime fascination. I like those three.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
That's a Trifectas someone finds it, they tell their mom,
their husband is freaked out by them.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, that keeps happening. Yeah, I love it. I think
that's how great marriages are built. Yeah. So my hot
and murder is probably something you've seen in the news recently,
and it takes place mainly in Spartanburg, South Carolina. I
said north, but it's South. Yes. Todd Colheb has been
charged with kidnapping Cola Brown or Kayla Brown Cola, and

(47:32):
keeping her chain by the neck and ankles for two
months inside a metal storage container on his property. Did
I mention Kayla lived down the street from me in Anderson,
South Carolina, As if it wasn't horrifying enough. Turns out
he's a full fledged serial killer and a bunch of
bodies and they found a bunch of bodies buried on
his property. In nineteen eighty seven, Todd Coleheb was convicted

(47:53):
in Arizona for kidnapping and sexually assaulting a fourteen year
old girl. He was only fifteen at the time of
the crew. Oh, I didn't see that.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
It's really nice when we talk vaguely about something, and
then someone comes in with the facts and fills them
in for us and we don't even have to do
any research.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I love this too. Collops served fourteen years in prison
for this crime and registered as a sex offender. When
we get out, he decided to resettle in South Carolina,
where he purchased one hundred secluded acres. That's always a
good red flag red flag. Add that to the red
flag list secluded acres of land over ten secluded acres.

(48:32):
You don't need it. You don't need that many. I
don't even know what that looks like. It's really big,
and it's only for cows and strange containers, she said,
Can he be any more murdery? How was he allowed
to do this? I mean, I guess it wasn't near
a school or park, but just further's the case for
staying out of the damn woods. He became a real

(48:54):
estate agent. Oh why does that? For some reason that
really bothers me because he's.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Around people all the time, families and this, yes, and
houses that she was working for him.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Oh, eventually starting his own company and employing as many
as ten other agents. Do you have to disclose your
sex offender's status to your employees. If you're the boss,
you probably don't, right, I don't know. So how do
you feel about working for She's like writing a play?
So how do you feel about working for a violent
sex offender? Yeah? That's crazy? Yeah you should.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
You can just go on and live your normal life.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
I would think that you do have to notify. He
just didn't.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
I bet I bet it was on the record somewhere.
So if you searched sex offenders in your area, he
would come up. But I bet he doesn't have to
tell them if he's the boss, right, maybe kids, But
then if kids like your kid comes to the office,
fack man. I mean, clearly this guy wasn't fucking following
the rules to begin with.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yeah, and here's the thing. If you're if you're you
just got a new job, you want to check LinkedIn,
you want to check sex offenders, the sex offenders Registry? Yeah,
just do it, just anyways. On August thirty first, Cali
Brown and Charlie Carver, who live right up the street
from me, went missing. When they answered and ad for
colep to do some work help cleaning up the property.

(50:12):
When they arrived, he pulled the gun and took them hostage.
He immediately shot and killed Charlie and buried him in
a shallow grave next to where the shipping container so
she knew, Yeah she did or Cala was chained up
for over two months. Two days after the couple went missing,
Anderson County Police started pinging Kyla's cell phone, which eventually
led police to Collop's property. It took them two weeks

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to get a search warrant. They started with flyovers of
the property before taking their search to the ground. Police
eventually heard Colla pounding on the storage container found and
they found her unharmed. Shortly after Kla was rescued, police
realized they were dealing with serial killer. They have since
found three other bodies on the property. He also confessed
to a thirteen year old case where four employees at

(50:54):
a Spartansburg motorcycle shop were shot in the back in
broad daylight with no witnesses. I mean, what in the
actual fuck google it. There is a weird there's there
is weird shit coming out daily on this guy.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I am a transplant from Chicago and am seen often
as the northern aggressor who won't say hi to anyone,
but this further proves your argument of fuck politeness. Apologize later.
I do not need help with my groceries. I don't
want to start small talk over my accent. And thank
you Todd Colup for ruining nature. Thanks for taking the
time to read my stories. Day out of the Wood,
Stay sexy, don't get murder, se what the buck crazy?

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I wonder who the other bodies are and I want
to look up that fucking shooting. I love when like, okay,
like the murder I know I'm going to do in Chicago,
like there's one or two, but these like huge crimes
that people don't, like a mass shooting, and people are
like how like the yogurt shot murder. Yeah, it's like,
how the fuck do we still not know who did these?
And then just some guy confesses and it's like, okay, yeah,

(51:52):
we would have never found this person.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yeah, he has no links, no ties. It's just some
random person that's living to escape these evil things they've
done totally and moving away, like moving to South Carolina,
moving to the countryside. So that so that I.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Mean at first when I when this story broken, they
were like, we found the skinnapped girl. Then it was
like I was so happy for her, you know, like
her life's gonna suck and be awful and hard to
get through, but she can get through it. And I
was when there's when there's a SURVIORUS store, I'm so
fucking relieved, unhappy.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
But it's just not it's not.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
I mean, her boyfriend was killed next to her, you know,
probably and as an intimidation thing for her, and Barry
what a fucking.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
I mean, who knows, who knows? No, it's hugely huge
trauma and insane, but she did live. And that's totally
That's that is amazing because those are the stories. I mean,
there's four other bodies on his ye pretty or three
other bodies on his property and four people he killed
in a motorcycle shop.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
She's so lucky, I know, so lucky to be alive.
God bless her and would say good, bless good, bless her,
God bless her. How long should we do one short,
one more and then and then have charity corner?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Okay, all right, this is called my Hometown Horror Horror.
Uh Hey, I'm new to your podcast. Nice work, by
the way, and I don't know if you're still wanting
stories about hometown murders. Oh we are, but here's mine
if you want it or not.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
I want you, Casey.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
I want you to be more confident, Casey.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I feel like you feel very vulnerable setting in this murder.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yeah, and we got you. Yeahbe you don't need to
make yourself small. No, we're here with you. Celebrate good times.
Come on, come on, come on, so Casey says, Back
when I was about six or seven, something happened that
shook our town to this day. A seventeen year old
girl went out for a run on endless country roads
in this area. Well, not surprisingly, she went missing. Years

(53:52):
and years went by. Flash forward to twenty ten. Another
jogger finds this trash back.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
On the side of the road.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
For whatever reason, this weirdo decides to into the bag.
Inside were some of the remains of the woman, dismembered
and shut into the bag. Upon further investigation, four more
bags were found scattered around the Country County, not Country County,
all containing the same woman's pieces.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Fucking how it.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Was that girl that had gone missing in the nineties,
grown up and fucking dismembered?

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Grown up?

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Wait, the girl who had was a teenager and went
missing in the fucking nineties.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
This wasn't her teenage body was her? This is what
it looks like.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Some fucked up fuck kidnapped that girl, held her for
almost twenty years, murdered her. This is a sad ending
that your last story. Then fucking dismembered her and threw
her in the side ditch. Yep, that's what happened here.
Nothing had happened before that, and nothing has happened since.
The fucker was never caught and the poor family never
got any answers.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
He lives in town.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Clearly right, it wouldn't bring her all the way back
to town twenty You look so well.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I just don't. I mean I don't. I don't have
a theory except for.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
It's so dark. It's just like so dark the twenty years.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
That's horrible.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
But what really screws up my mind is that this
random kept this innocent girl alive somewhere close to this
town for almost twenty years and where no one was
able to find and save her. How terrible must have
felt to be her and not be able to get
help for that long. Also, how sad for her family
to realize that's so awful, And then said also what
possesses someone to hold someone hostage for that long and

(55:30):
then all of a sudden kill them. What could have
happened to make him snap and murder her after so long? Okay,
I'll stop thinking about it and let you guys mull
this over.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Thanks, thinks. Thanks? Well, I mean, aren't these always the
questions that come up that cannot be answered? And that
everybody's interested in this stuff? And yeah, I mean what
kind of monster? What does he look like? Does he
look like have you seen pictures of Todd Kleap the
other guy? Yeah, he's really big. Yeah, he's a very

(56:01):
very busy age man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
I just wonder, like, after twenty years, like, don't you
go to attach some to this, to the you're victim
at some point.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Not of your psychopath or right path, right, no way,
which you would have to be to do that. I mean, no, it's.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Twenty They found her adult body. I was not expecting that.
I thought maybe they would find her like she had
been kept somewhere as a dead teen body.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
It's just a new low.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Poor sweet angel, poor sweet little oh man. Will we
went up for a little while and then we just
went right back back down.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
What do we expect. I don't know. Well, I feel
just as awful. How about you? Yeah, I feel pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Well at the end of the show, now we're doing
one good thing, saying one good thing that happened to
us this week?

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Oh yeah, what good thing happened to you this week? Nothing?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
But but I want to say that, I Karen, we
donated some money as my favorite murder.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Oh today I so.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Brian Sofie and Aaron Gibson from the Throwing Shade podcast
started posting on Instagram just screen grabs of the charities
they were just donating to, and it was just like,
just do this, just do like they kept posting places
that they were donating to, and I was like, all right,
you know what, I feel like, Shit, I'm gonna try that.
So I did a couple and I did one as

(57:25):
my favorite murder to the National Coalition against Domestic Violence. Great,
So we did that. That's a fe good thing.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
That's perfect, right, that's a great thing. Yeah. Yeah, money counts.
Spend your money wisely.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yeah, And if you don't have money to give, just
give blood or become a done marrow.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Transplant. I'm on the don marrow trans are you? Are
you a don marrow.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
I'm a donnerf what did I say? Wow, I didn't
even catch that done marrow?

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Shit? Man?

Speaker 2 (57:55):
And can I point out I've been drinking water this
whole time?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, I'm not old. I mean, I'm not shit based,
but I'm just having.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
A drinking You're just drinking water, a bone marrow transplant,
donor list in blood. Try to give money, You're just
like give every possible thing, give it all the way,
you know what it is?

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Just try to do things for other people. That's actually
it really is. Something that makes people feel better is
when you make human connection and you help out, be
a helper. I think that's a great idea. It's also
something that I have to say, like, I I'm not
that good at because I'm always like time and oh
and pain or my comfort or whatever. I feel like

(58:36):
that's something I would like to do better at, which
is like, that's the whole idea of like volunteering a sacrifice,
and you're supposed to be kind of giving of yourself.
It's supposed to be time off of your couch where
you're not comfortable. That's the whole idea. Yeah, yeah, all right,
So the thing I was going to mention is our
friend Glennis McCarthy, who is Matt McCarthy's wife of that

(59:01):
We Watch Wrestling podcasts of the We Watch Wrestling podcast
of Georgia's Husband's podcast, and Glennis's grandpa had Alzheimer's and
it's a the Alzheimer's organization, which is it's act dot
alz dot org. You can go there and Glennis's walk

(59:24):
donation page. You can donate to her because there's going
to be the walk on November twelfth, and you can
donate to support her walk. Her name is spelled Glennis
G l E n n I S Pastures Walk donation page.
I'm sure if you search it on the Alzheimer's Association

(59:44):
website you will find it. And my mom has a
page on there as well. My mom died of Alzheimer's
in January and I had a lot of very lovely
people when she died. Donate to that page. It's just
it's a disease has to get cured because so many
people are getting it, and they're right on the verge
of a cure. They say there's a cure coming that

(01:00:09):
they're working on right now, and they're trying to get
into the final stages that that doesn't just stop the Alzheimer's,
it reverses it. It gets rid of the plaque or the
thing that they think causes it in the brain. Yeah,
it kind of flushes it out. Yeah, so that would
be if that if that's something we could do. It's
as big to me as like cancer, obviously because for

(01:00:30):
personal reasons, but also because it's the kind of thing
that like the way people live in this country, and
you know, it's it's becoming the hugest problem.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Yeah, and so and it's a long it's along hal
when someone you love gets it, it's not it's awful.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
It goes on for years. Yeah, and it's terrible. So yeah,
a lot of people need support. Giving money to the
Alzheimer's organization. You know, they have a lot of great
support groups and stuff. They you know, there's outreach and
they help people a lot. There's a lot of good help.
So if your family's going through that, you probably already have.

(01:01:10):
I mean, Jesus, all you do is look stuff up
on the internet. But Alzheimer's organization is a really good one.
And so there's I guess their walk. I think their
walk is every year on November twelfth or like every
year in November. Yeah, but please donate to that. Definitely,
that's amazing. Yeah, I like that. Maybe we should just

(01:01:31):
do that at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
We each have a charity that we're there's some charitable
organization that we share.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Not every week. I know that's just fake. Then it's like, oh,
save the starfish, Like, come on, I don't care about that. Manythings, Okay,
fair enough, you do it. You can't a good one.
Get my friend, me, me, me, cand to see you.
He's my friend and she's not everybody's friend.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
No, maybe I don't like everyone. When she freaks, she
gets a little freaked out. You guys, she digs you too. Yeah,
well go go, you guys. Go do something good for
someone and it'll make you feel better about fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Everything is right, what happens right, let us know if
it works.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Yeah, hey, Elvis, come in here. Thanks for listening to you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
We hope, uh, we hope. You know we have hope.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Stay sexy and don't get murdered.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Elvis, do you want to cook? E? Come on?

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Man? Oh man, Mimi you want to cook? E?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Me?

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Me?

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
No, mom me my bee my friend Elvis cookie, Hi, cooky, cooky,
all right, cooky, I mean see we go yeah there,
here it goes, here, it goes Elvis, you want to cooky,

(01:02:58):
you want kindly want cookie. Take your time. Well, now
you're gonna have to wait for cookie.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Yeah, Cookie Cookie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
He's like, yeah, all right, bye bye