267 - Leg Show

On this week’s quilt episode, Karen and Georgia cover the Adolphus Hotel Ghosts and the Bunnyman Legend.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hello, Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
That's Georgia Hartstar, That's Karen kil Gariff. We're here to
tell you something.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Some things, some thoughts, some feelings. You know what we're
gonna do. We're gonna have podcast at you.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Absolutely that's what podcasting is. Some doubts, some epiphanies.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Some TV viewings, some observations out our front windows.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Do you know what I was just doing?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Speaking of front windows, I just did something I don't
I've done maybe a handful of times during quarantine.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Can I guess? Okay, did you do like a leg
show in the window for your neighbors?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Kind of? I danced?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I danced, really tell us?

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Why?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Tell us how I was hoping you dance?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Thank you? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I put on I never put on music. It's always
a book or a podcast. I put on I had
just had therapy and it felt freeing, and I put
on Bell and Sebastian. Now you listen to a little
which I never do, and it's so poppy and fun,
and I love it so much that I just started dancing.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Can I guess the song?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah? Or with the abstra No?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
But they all sound they all sound fun like that,
So Tiger Mount Tiger Milk. I just started dancing, and
Cookie was like, what are you? Cookie's never seen me
dance before, h so she was a little confused. But
then I went on my balcony and for the whole
world to see, I just started dancing. So yeah, there
was a little leg show.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
It felt so good.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I think everyone should try it in the privacy of
your own home, of your own room alone.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
And then the public of your own balcony's.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Right, pretend like fans, like no one's watching. But then
the helicopter went by, of course, so I was like, what's.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Up the cops? The cops man.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Like fun and freeing and felt it was weird and lovely.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I really like that idea because I think there are
real there's real science behind the idea of when you
you process something and then you move your body, yeah,
and it actually helps you physiologically process whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Definitely might have been talking about.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well been an instinct, yes, And my therapist is there's
this thing called Pony Sweat that's like a lead but casual,
fun great music. Do be yourself dance like zoom and
it's just like really open to all kinds of people,
and she's always telling me to do it, and I

(02:45):
need to, but you know, I feel I feel weird
and I'm the weird one, so I never do it.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
But it definitely like boosts your mood. It's a serotonin
fucking boost. I wonder if that's the kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I find that with streaming things, you can go on
there with your camera off and do whatever you want.
You can truly sit and judge all of pony sweat
as they do it, and then you're like, I'll decide.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, And then you see everyone having fun and you're like,
I want them. I want to convey fun too with
them because there's no judgment, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And also the idea of I'm the one that's weird
is just is the idea every person has. That's what
every single person thinks, right. I love that idea. I've
actually heard I know a lot of the people that
do pony sweat and have been like pony sweat, the
og pony sweaters, and it's all the people that you

(03:37):
know and love that are like, who gives a shit?
They wear cool clothes, but they're not trying to be cool.
They're just like effortlessly cool. They're trying to kind of
dance away the onus of having to be cool.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, and that like I think there's a lot of
like body dysmorphia, like breaking those walls.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Down and come as you are, and you know it's kind.
I'm lovely and I want to be pun.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Don't have to tape your breasts down. If you go
to pony Sweat, you don't have to for the first
time ever.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Dress silly and fun. And I know people were like
wigs and.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
That's the hottest thing you could do is the.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Sweatiest pony that you could possibly pony.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
But maybe that's the point. It's like it's wig hot
yoga but with kookie music. Yeah, come on. Yeah, it
reminds me of It's like the kind of thing that
for me, as a highly damaged gen x er from
the Evil nineties, I watch the children do things like
pony sweat and I say, thank God and good for you,

(04:40):
and I am not allowed to do that.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
No, you are, I am not.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
You didn't hear I was called there's a spam pavement
called me and said you're.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Not allowed to yourself. Higher generation if you need that.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
But maybe if your generation had had the had been
allowed to do it, you know, it would have been.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know what, guys that need less therapy entirely. Well,
it's in our generation. The option was do what everyone
else is doing or be on heroin, and it was
hard to choose.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Sure, those are great choices, both of them.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
The I mean, they're very specific choices and they definitely
guide you down a certain path. I feel like the
freedom of Pony Sweat and the those kind of high
concept like gals and guys, we're going to exercise, but.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Not exercise gals and wear your purple sweats.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Be yourself, be your true self where.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's like my whole life.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Everyone was saying, could you please stop being yourself for
four minutes?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Your sil embarrassing to walk out.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
The ideas are two out there, shut up, yeah, I'm so.
Are you gonna do it or did you already do it?
Or you had your own personal pony.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I had my own personal and it almost felt like
a like a way to like introduce myself to group,
dancing solo to group, and.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Then who knows from there could go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Then you sign up for Phony Sweat, but right as
it start, you go, excuse me, everyone, could you all
mute your microphones. I'm gonna well then I'd like to
introduce myself.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
That's a Janet move. You said, what Janet would do everyone? No,
she just like always wants to make a speech, you know, hello,
ding ding ding ding ding, Like she's being on.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
The side, on the side of her like water plastic
water bottle at ponty sweat Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Ding ding ding everybody, Hello, everyone, oh on being mean.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
But that's just her personality. And that's why I don't
have that personality. It's the whole like, it's the it's
the mindset from that I have that I can't do of.
When she'd pull up to pick us up from somewhere,
have complete eye contact with us, and still this is
her thing.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Be the beep beep beep beep, No, what was it?

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Shave and haircut every time she'd pick us up from somewhere.
And now as an adult, I know she was embarrassing
us on purpose because we deserved it. And I know
parents are so sick of their kids that anytime they
can get a little win in they'll take it.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
But at the time, I was like, why are you
ruining my life?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I'm dying over here. Why don't you care? Why is
it so funny to you that I'm in such intense
constant pine.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I already am a fucking nerd, and I'm not one
of the popular girls.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
So if you couldn't make it not double time, guess
what you're not helping me.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
With the chicular The two Elizabeths and the Jennifers and
the Megans who have normal names and don't get made
fun of because of their names are who are popular.
Their moms are beatp b betpping at them.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Their moms send a hired cod. That's why can't you
love me the way Jennifer and Jennifer's mother loves that Elizabeth.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
With ans and Elizabeth was a z never have to
deal with this bullshit?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Okay, Elizabeth with an ass seems like highest of maintenance.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Did she make people call her Elspeth? What's wild?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Didn't have to be like that? Else Peth. That's what
I would have called pet Elspeth, else peta.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Speaking of Dutch, my dad, did I ever tell you
about the time he had a white a nineteen seventy
white Ford truck that he bought cool not I was
gonna say bucket, bench, front seat, literally would fit like
six kids in the front seat to pasaults.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
No seatbelts. No, I don't think they were in there
at all.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
No.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
And he on the way to school one day the
horns started honking by itself and we were like dad, no, no, no, Dad, Dad,
dad dad, And he was like, well, there's nothing I
can do. And it was he was elated, he was overjoyed.
Where we're like, do not pulay and he's like, girls,
I gotta make sure you get into the building. And
we were like trying and begging him not to do it,

(08:59):
and he'd right up to the front and stayed there
with the like as if he was laying horn.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
So every no one knew. And it's just like, I
might need to get off of this podcast for a
little while. Oh was that too much for you? This
is triggering me hard.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, there's so much shame. There's like a like a
fountain of shame at the front of every school when
you're you're just trying to walk into school totally and
there's so many ways to get just entirely obliterated.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Which is almost like made being a latchkey kid even
better because then you just had no parents anymore.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
To do.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
You could like fucking Irish goodbye school. You could you
could dip in see what you like, and then you're
just like, maybe I won't go to sixth period.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Bye.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, I'm one of the only kids that have keys
to their house, so good bye, bye bye.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I'm going I'm going to my apartment now that I
live in alone.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Essentially, I understand some people think this place is a priority,
but I think Scooby Doo is a priority. Let's let's
get these mysteries.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Listen, Maury Povich is not going to watch yourself.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Jenny Jones and Maury Povich and Ricky Lake, by the way,
guysos are all after school TV shows that we watched
obsessively key late.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I think Ricky Lake did not get enough credit, absolutely
at the time for the kind of shit she was
putting on. She was hers was a twist on yeah,
and most of her show titles rhymed in.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Some way, and she put on a happy face to
the whole thing, like she was a positive influence in
my life.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
She was everyone's friend. She was like, now hold on,
because you've already been arrested for punching her in the face,
but you're going to try to punch her in the face.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Againeah, that's not okay, audience.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
What do you think, audience? Do you want to see
some makeovers and then for no reason?

Speaker 1 (10:56):
You know, essentially our podcast is.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
A carry on of those shows from back then, you know,
except our audience is just listening to We can't communicate
with them.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Unfortunately, we can't run up Phil Donahues style, run up
into the audience with the mic and be like Alice
from Georgia.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, what do you think about all this? What do
you think?

Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's not very creative when I use your name as
this as the state. Also, it's right there, it's right
in front of it. What were you going to say
about Belgium? Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I was just going to tell you. I think it's
the Netherlands somewhere.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I'm reading a book that's got really cool weird names
that's from there.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
And actually, if you want to want to hear me,
try to pronounce the name of the author, please do fun.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Well, it's like a it's a ghost story slash true
crimey who done it?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
But fucking ghosty ghost times for sure, like Paranorialia.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
But it's like really beautifully written. It's called I remember you. Yeah,
it's like it's good. It's in the author's name.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Is yoursa Sigur Dart. I think I got that right,
to be honest with you. I think you.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I think that's York's sister first of all, and you're
dead on right.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, so just look up, I remember you. I'm listening
to it.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
It's beautifully red and beautifully written and so spooky and like,
what did you say? The first name is Ilsa, yoursa?
So why our essay?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Why are essay? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
And it's really it's like a cool distraction. This couple
buys this decrepit old house on a Netherlands island and
has to redo it, but it's fucking haunted as shit.
And then like something's going on in the village that
this like detective has to figure out and hit and
his son passed away, and like it's in the is
it you know, ghosty ghost stuff?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Okay, do you want to hear something lightly mind blowing?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
My recommendation for a TV series this week is also Belgian.
Whoa wait, you said Netherlands, But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Those are not the same. But I don't know where
the fuck it is. I just know I can't pronounce
the name, so I'm just going to go straight to
the Netherlands. Oh got it? Okay, yeah. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
For some reason, I thought when you very first mentioned
it and then I interrupted you back to do the
horn story, I thought you said something about Belgian I.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Bet I did, And that could be right too. Okay,
that could be wrong or right too. It can all
be right and wrong.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Okay. It's just we rarely talk about Belgium, so it's
exciting that we would both be mentioning. Yeah, I found
okay on my streaming services. Now, this is how we
know where I'm digging down to the bottom of everything
is because I discovered sun Dance TV, which is one

(13:50):
of the streaming choices on my TV, and began to
scroll through it and was like, this.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Is the streaming service for me. This has all like.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Foreign procedurals, ghosty ghosts, Scandinavian.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Proceduralsanavian that's the word.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Is that what you were looking for?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Probably?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
So there's a TV series on there called Public Enemy. Okay,
there's already been two seasons, right, and I believe I
think I read somewhere that they're working on a third.
I thought it was French, but they I believe they're
all speaking French, but it's it takes place in Belgium,
got it. But if you live in either country and

(14:32):
would like to correct me thoroughly and and your mother
tongue about it, I'm open.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Obviously.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
But it's just a really creepy good story that then
has these I just think I know what I prefer
in my foreign procedurals, because you know, the Scandinavians really
have honed and refined it.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, and there's a satiness like to it too, because
it's also like wickan old timey and like nice everyone's nice.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Oh but yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
There's always something happening in the forest. The forest is
the key. Yes to most of those. This has a
major forest element.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
I'm there. Once sopranos is done, I'm there. Granos are sopranos.
It just depends on what part of France you're from.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Annie, you know what I'm speaking?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Can I talk about sobranos real quick or suborgianos? I
talk to my therapists about this. I feel like from
his therapy, I'm learning It's extreme, but I feel like
I'm learning a lot about therapy because he's the extreme
version of avoiding his true feelings and the way he
does it through violence and even humor, a lot and anger.

(15:45):
But I'm getting it in that his roadblocks are the
extreme version of mine. Sure, And I think for people
who are weary of therapy, it might be a good
way to get it a little And same with like
shows like therapy, it might be a good way to
like ease your anxiety about it is to watch these

(16:05):
extreme examples, because then it.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Feels like you have air the bird's eye view. It's
always way easier to see somebody else's stuff and be
like it's so obvious what they should be having a
realization about, but like it never is obvious to yourself,
because we all have our own blind spots. I mean
everyone does, and every single person goes through like a
very standard cycle of denial when they're getting to the

(16:30):
good stuff, because that's the hard stuff. So it's like, yeah,
you watch Tony Soprano threaten his uh, his therapist because
she would not ever break that just and how does
that make you feel?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah, which I think she's she's an extreme example. I
think that it's a lot softer and a lot more
questions and a lot more leading and kinder than she is,
but not.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
In New Jersey. Sorry, you better wake up.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
When you have an Italian therapist. It's in New Jersey
and it's on a TV show. It's fictional that I love.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Lorraine broncos accent where it's like that exact way she
told She's so cad.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
It's so good, She's so good. What else? Are you
in the middle? Are you near the end?

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Feels like you've been watching the Sopranos for a while. Yeah,
the Sopranos.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
No, we're only we're in the middle. We're in season
three of the Sopranos. But we're in season six of
the Sopranos.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
You know what I mean. So you know what that's like.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Like, technically no, But I do want to mention a
podcast because last week I mentioned the Christian Smart Case
in San Luis Obispo and it's cold, and I mentioned
the podcast Your Own Backyard and that I hadn't listened
to it. But it's a deep dive. It's hosted by
Chris Lambert, and I can vouch for how fucking.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Good it is.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
It's got the vibes of the CDC's someone Knows something
and a lot of those like deep dives. But he's
not a journalist, he's not a detective in any way.
He's just this is his hometown and he puts it
all together and interviews the journalists and interviews the people
obsessed with it, who have who have deep deep dive

(18:14):
into it, and it's it's an It's one of those
infuriating ones though, because wheneber I said something about the
investigators working their hardest. Yeah, there they didn't and there's
so many missed opportunities and it's infuriating and I really
do hope something comes of it, and I think it
will based on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I had to.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
I listened to it in a weekend and I just
was like angry, but it's so good, and it's like
it's a such a it's such a crazy case. It's
the fact that it hasn't been solved is absurd.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, well it's that's a small town area, definitely. I mean,
you know that usually is the story where it's like
people kind of out of their depth having to investigate
the type of prime that they have absolutely no experience,
and then they won't cop to.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
It or that's or they're hiding something they're protecting, protecting
something the super sinister version, which, by the way, speaking
of which, there's a website called the Knock La and
they do it's basically kind of like local journalists and
independent journalism.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
And there is an unbelievable article, like a series of
articles about the the shared the La County Sheriff's Department
and the gang that exists inside it. And so I
believe her name is Cherise Castle. It's spelled c E
r I S. So it's either Scherisse or series. This

(19:45):
is a story she's been chasing basically since last summer,
since the protests started, and these stories kind of started
cropping up around the protests and around the action taken.
And it's it's like a multi part series. It's called
a Tradition of Violence, the History of Deputy Gangs in
the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. And it's really groundbreaking

(20:08):
journalism and really important.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
So yeah, because they want to get that.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Well, it's the kind of thing if if if the
budget is gigantic and there's no oversight or the oversight
we know corrupt.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's the kind of thing. Yeah. It's a
website called.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's the it's knock La, so it's knock dash La
dot com. Okay, and that's kind it's kind of a
good thing, where like when stuff was going on in
the summertime, it was just a great thing to follow
that was kind of keeping you up to date. And
they were I believe they were the ones I found
out about that Zoom City Council meeting where I seed

(20:44):
my time fuck you became an international Uh comedian Will
Weldon got on and held forth in a brilliant way
and then said, I seed my time.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Bucking was epic. Epic.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Uh yeah, Okay, So this is the the young comedians
Los Angeles just continue to impress with their involvement and
their activism and.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Actually getting into shit. So it's a little more of that.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I have a corrections corner or like a clarifications corner
that I thought was really cool. This is from Instagram
from Belize like the country. Yeah, I get it, Georgia
like the state always saying it says your reference to
the possible Tyler Perry media connection. Medea is an honorific
title in the black community given to the matriarch of

(21:31):
a family. Oh this is notably explained in Maya Angelou's
I Know Why the Cage Bird Sings. The name comes
from the shortening of mother dear media.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Are you serious? Isn't that beautiful?

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Oh my god, I'm gonna cry so thank you. Belize
just like the country. I what a cool fact.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
That's I love learning that. And I'm embarrassed to have
automatically assumed.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Tyler Perry's grandmother lived. Hey girl, I was right there
with you. We were in that. We were so excited.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
It was like when you learn that people are friends growing.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Up and you're just like, I was just right there
in the forefront. And that's why we have listeners. You
think that set us straight?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Belize, good of you, good of you, Thank you, kindly.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Thank you. It's so see. Can we go back and
cut that out? Completely? Too late? Right, it's always too late.
It's always hey, look.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
We're also big fans of Tyler Perry's wowly good good
to know. Yeah, I also have a light correction. And
this was done with such a with such a gentle
hand by a listener, Samuel Montez who's at Zippo Cooper
on Twitter, and he just let me know. The host
of the podcast The Opportunist, which I recommended last time,

(23:02):
her name is Hannah Smith. And he wrote and said
the name of the host of the Opportunist is Hannah Smith.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
It says it in the.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Show description and then like a laughing mun gee. But
I swear to God, I remember, I'm looking for it higher.
I swear I opened on the at least on the
iTunes app. I opened that show description and read that
paragraph several times.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Oh okay, and didn't see her name in that. Well
you know what.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Then that's but also it's yeah, I wouldn't blame everybody else.
But also this last time when I after he sent that,
and I laughed and was like, oh my god. I
went to look and one of the first reviews for
it was a five star review that said Hannah Smith
is a great Okay, So if hopefully the fans and
the people who listen and care are like, fine, we'll

(23:53):
do it.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
We'll do it, then Karen. If if this is what
it's easier for Karen.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
But anyway, it's a I can't I can't wait for
this podcast. Like the current season is like mind blowing
and everyone should listen to it, but I can't wait
for the further seasons, which is the description of the
show is stories about normal people who turned basically evil
because of an opportunity. It's such a cool cut.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
I just think of the lottery and how it ruins
everyone's lives. Yes, yeah, sets people all. Have you ever
had an experience like that?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Oh you mean when I won four hundred dollars on
the giant slot machine and lost lottery, I just.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Change changed my entire person. I literally I.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Put in like it's like a silver dollar and it
was one of those big, oversized ones. It's like just
almost like a demo, and I pulled it and it
just started going, and then I like literally turned.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Out to the crowd.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
I was like, oh my god, and like nobody gave
a shit. It was four hundred dollars, Like that's you know,
one in law in three minutes. Yeah, yeah, But I
honestly was like looking for my crown and flowers, like
thanks everybody, well, because you're gonna lose it.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
But that would be like when I used to go
to Vegas when I was young and had no money,
Like four hundred dollars was my if I I would
just blow it and it was like, well, I'm fucked now.
Because I thought I was gonna win and yeah, one
night and I can afford White Castle.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Same I every time I've gone, I've never won, except
for like in an increment like that where in my
mind I'm like I'm set for months and then it's
and then like two hours later, it's almost entirely gone.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I had a friend get mad at this kind of
maybe a similar where I had a friend get mad
at me when I won three hundred and fifty bucks
on like a quarter slot and she was mad at
me for the rest of the trip, Like it was
like it should have been her, Like.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Oh, that's a good friend. Yeah, let's let's walk through this.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, and I'd like bought everyone lunch.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
No, what, there's one hundred dollars gone. Yeah, get your
own fucking lunch exactly.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Uh So it was supposed to be me.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Is the fucking most hilarious attitude you can have the
Las Vegas I wanted the next time we go to Vegas,
I'm gonna walk through the casino floor and if I
even hear a bell ring, I'm gonna turn to go
what that was supposed to be me? Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
It's the thing when someone says and I'm really careful
with this. If someone says to you, i'm so jealous
of you rather than i'm so happy for you, it's
a really big indicator of their personality and so you
and a lot of times people say it themselves not
meaning it. So just be aware when someone gets something
great and you are jealous, it's fine, it's a normal emotion.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Just say I'm happy, Oh, I'm so happy for you.
Now I'm so jealous of.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
You, because it just changes the connotation completely. Yeah right, yeah,
I mean there's ever heard me say it before.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Maybe you're just never jealous.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Of me, But I'm not jealous of anyone.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
I have everything.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
No, no, No, it's because I think there's also people
it's totally to the person, right, because there's people who
could say that to you and you wouldn't take it
the wrong way. You'd actually take it as almost like
I'm confiding in you that I'm being evil, because that's
how good this accomplishment is. As opposed to there's people
who could go i'm so heavy for you, and their

(27:26):
words are like knives and ears, where you're like, no,
you're not, you're not. My gut says no to this
you're any mile is angry, your smile is filled with blades.
But also, I think there's a time, all of the
time in my life where I hated people the most
for having things or getting things or winning three hundred dollars,

(27:50):
and there's been plenty. It's just the reflection of a
complete lack in my own life, and so it for
so long I'd just be you know, would be like
what I to have that, not them? And then after
a while you get a little something of your own,
and then you start to go, oh, I'm not supposed
to have what the other people had.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Or there them having it does not take away my
opportunities and abilities to know.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm supposed to get mine in my own special way,
and that's the only way, because if I was handed
what they had, I wouldn't care about it. You have
to kind of like put some skin in the game
and earn your own and get it, and then you.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Go like, wow, this is really something.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
But it also you know that that also goes in
hand in hand with being addicted to shit, where you're
just kind of like I need a thing and I
demand it. Yeah, you're just kind of like, oh right, well,
it doesn't do you have another drink? You're gonna Oh,
You're gonna be so much happier after this.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I feel that in my boots. I feel it every day.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Wait, did I have one other thing? No, I just
have I remember you and then the name yours written
underneath it, so that's yours. I think that's it right
for Oh, we have a little bit of business.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah, but it's fun. It's like, I don't think we
should call it business. It's more like we have a
little bit of party time.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
We have a little bit of an exciting announcement.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, we do get us know that when you put
a book out, it's hard a hard I mean like
physically hard, and then eventually it gets soft.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
That's right, in both experience and material.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
And so our SSDGM the say sex you don't get murdered.
The book that came out and hardback is now being
released soft bound. Yeah on May eleventh, which is my
birthday this year. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (29:44):
It turns out I'm working on a birthday present for
you with your sister's help. I'm really bad at surprises.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
I'm not telling you what it is. It's a Sephorid
gift card, but it's really special and it's going to make.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Laura host to help you pick it up.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
No, it's true for your birthday.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Ye, all right, I feel like it's because your fiftieth
last year had to be in quarantine. So I'm going
to make fifty one the double time special.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Oh well, I love that.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I guess I should do the same for you. Since
you had your fortieth that's in quarantine.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
That would be great.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
We'll blow it out, We'll blow it out. I'm going
to get you a confetti cannon, not to give it
away immediately, but that's what you mean, can I get Yeah,
you're going to.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Love it back to us.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Our book is out to be the book announce it's
going to be out so you can pre order it,
which is really great. If you're if you're going to
buy it, please pre order it. That's just all we're
asking because it just helps with you know, uh, I don't.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Know popularity, popularity numbers, some sort of numbers.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, it's the same like rate review, subscribe on podcast.
It's pre order for books exactly. And while you're at it,
why not pre order it from your local independent bookstore.
Always a cool move. Yeah, but here's a little stir
carrot that we're going to dangle for you. There is
a little bit of a sample of something that we've

(31:07):
been working on.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
That's in the soft cover where we're calling it that
the paperback versions of the book, let's call it. And
so if you if you order it, you're going to
get a little sneak peek at what we've been looking at.
So all of that is going to be possible for you,
uh in two months May eleventh one.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Essentially, there's a new chapter in the book and it's
a sneak peek and it's and it's so it's extra content.
Then in the hard version, the flaccid version has extra content.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Let's not call it the flask you bit begging the book.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
This is a secretion of our emotion. Submit your drink.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Oh, I almost did a diet PEPSI spit. Take the
worst kind there is.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
We just secreted our hearts and souls into this book.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
And the flaccid version has more secrete extra secretions.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Stephen, Stephen, don't just cut this. Burn it as you're
cutting it. And I don't know how you do that
with digital, but I want this whole thing burnt.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Don't tell it. I think that was the best words
I've ever spat in.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
My medn don't take this from me. I think that
was the eloquentiest I've ever eloquented. And I'm proud of myself.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
And you can find that and more. And stay Sexy,
don't get murdered.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
That's right. If you even like this, this flaccid debate,
then you're going to love Stay Sexy, Don't get murdered.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
The paperback version, that's right with extras.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Uh, you say all the details coming out Man eleventh,
twenty twenty one. Blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Okay, I said it twice, then I said it right. Okay,
what else?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Oh, we just have a couple. We have some fun
stuff happening on the network if you want to know,
for example, the Great Lisa Trigger from That's messed Up.
The SVU podcast US from Exactly Right is going to
be on Lady to Lady.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
That's right, and this podcast will kill you.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Aaron and Aaron discuss Huntington's disease, which remains shrouded in mystery.
So that comes out this week. I can imagine it's
not the awesomest frickin' episode.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Here's what I love about this podcast, will kill You.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
They're one of our original podcasts and they're still going strong.
People love this podcast. It's Aaron and Aaron kick ass weekly.
So if you haven't given in a try yet, yeah,
get over there and see what you think.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Lady the Lady Margaret Show, the Great Margaret Show, who
Karen has hung out with in the nineties, is on
as a guest.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
One of my oldest and dearest friends.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Margaret Show is also now a family member of the
Exactly Right Podcast Network, which is really fun and nice.
Love it. So the old gals love stuff like that. Legend,
She's legendary, legend cool.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Before we put up our.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Quill episodes from this week, which I mean, I'm so
glad they're being broadcast to the world because they're great stories,
both of them. We want to address a issue that
we think is important and it's a huge problem, and
that is the racism that the Asian community is facing

(34:25):
right now and historically, and it's shocking and you know, disgusting,
and we're horrified by it. So many people in our
society don't understand that this is an epidemic for Asian
people as well. You know, I don't think people see it,

(34:48):
and so I really think that we need to highlight
it and.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Talk about it.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
It's a huge problem that we can't ignore and that
we need to support this community.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, the lives that were lost in Atlanta, and that
it's such a we always talk about these mass shootings
are senseless shootings. We always talk about afterwards, we need
to talk about the victims' names. You know, these the
conversation is becoming so redundant because there are people in
this world who think they can solve their own issues

(35:22):
by going out and killing whoever they decide should die.
And that is a it's an oppressive state that everyone
has to live in, but especially you know, this is
a targeted group. Asian Americans have been targeted for years.
So there's a collective called Red Canary Song and their

(35:43):
website is Redcanarysong dot net and they call themselves a
grassroots collective of Asian and migrant sex workers who are
organizing transnationally and so they're basically their mission, it's as
on their website, centers based building with migrant workers through

(36:04):
a labor rights framework and mutual aid. We believe that
full decriminalization is necessary for labor organizing and anti trafficking.
Hashtag rights not raids. Hashtag sex work is work. So essentially,
this is a collective of people who are getting together
to stand up for the rights of undocumented sex workers

(36:27):
and sex workers basically across this nation. And it's a
really I think it's really cool because it's such direct
aid and it's such a good thing to support. So
we're going to give ten thousand dollars to Red Canary
Song in support of the victims of the Atlanta shooting

(36:48):
and to basically to help them with the work that
they're doing on the street.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
That's right, and please donate if you can. If not.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
A great way to get the word out there is
just to just get the word out and make it
visible and keep it at the forefront of people's mind.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
All right.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
So I'm first this week, thank you, Steven, and so
I am doing a story from May fifth, twenty nineteen.
This was at the Toyota Music Factory in Dallas, Irving
Dallas slash Irving, Texas, which was such a fun big old.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Shows, big old show. Oh I had a big old show.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
We had fucking cowboy hats, waiting for us in the
green room. It was it was wild, it was awesome.
And so I'm doing the Adolphus Hotel Ghosts, which was terrifying.
We had video footage going of elevators going bonkers. It
scared the shit out of me, definitely. So take a listen.

(37:52):
Don't listen in a dark room at late at night.
It's scary, and have fun. This is the Adolphus Hotel Ghosts.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
It's you, It's me tonight, I start, Okay, I'm first tonight. Guys.
All right, well this one has it all ghosts. What ghosts?
Just two ghosts, just a lot of ghosts. One ghost
murders another.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Get ready.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Forensic files. Take that.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
This is the Deaths and Ghosts of the Adolphus Hotel.
Oh yeah, So it turns out you guys have really
safe six flags over Texas and only two people have
ever died there.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Oh, no stories to talk about from there. No, it's more.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Have been fifty two years and it's only even two
deaths of Roaring Rapids and Texas Giant roller Coaster Roaring Rapids.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
That's a bummer. That's a tough one. But someone must
have stood up, right, No, that's what it was. It
was their fault. Oh the water became electric. No, no,
the boat tipped over. No. And that was in the fifties.
No shit. I tried to help you, six flags. I

(39:18):
tried to help you.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Okay, So let me talk about the Adolphus Hotel. And
I got so much information from d magazine. There's an
article by a woman named s Holland Murphy who just
fucking wrote the article about it.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
She wrote the book out of that arty.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
She like went to the library and like microfish and
then I just copied and pasted all of it.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
But she's a great writer. Yeah, I appreciate her word.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
She did it.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
No, I didn't completely. Okay. In nineteen ten, go back there.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Okay, the city of Dallas is booming, and the city
leaders decides it needs a grong hotel for rich white people.
So they convinced this dude, Adolphus Bush Busch, founder of
the Anheuser Busch company.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Who that company got me through the late eighties early nineties.
Thank you Anheuser Busch and all your horses and all
your men.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
He basically bought stock in Aneser Bush in the nineties.
One would hope one would think, Okay, so They're like, hey, dude,
you're rich, will you build this? And he was like,
I'm on it, and so construction began later that year
in a new one million dollar hotel. They spent a million,
which in today's money is.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Nineteen ten a million. That's easily three billion today twenty
five million. That might be wrong, two point five billion dollars.
That's almost three billion dollars. I'm getting fucking at this
future money thing. You are, You're really good at it.
I was point five billion dollars away from being right

(41:05):
on the money.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
So they start building this hotel where Dallas City Hall
wants to That was to be to elevate downtown Dallas,
which at the time was considered I considered and unsophisticated
whatever that means unconfisticated and confisticated, and.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
They wanted to turn it into a classy joint. So, uh,
here's what it looks. That's a yellow that's a Dolphus
Bush and all his facial hair.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
That's you would it makes sense that you'd be in
a boardroom and you'd turn to this guy and go,
can you please build us a hotel?

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yeah, he knows hotels. I mean what he's that's a
very wide coat. Is the breath and with he's got
a breath and with to him, doesn't he? Okay, well
he was like, you know what I'm gonna do. Boom,
I'm a boom. Isn't that beautiful? Look at that with

(41:59):
it own moon? Wow? Amazing?

Speaker 3 (42:03):
And actually so when they when it opened in October fifth,
twenty Nope, nineteen twelve, that would take a long time.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
That would be The Adolphus.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Hotel was the first to posh Grand hotel in Dallas,
and the twenty two story hotel was the tallest building
in the state of Texas for almost a decade.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
So like, look at these little tiny like hovels that bow. Now,
get your own moon, get out of their right.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
That's our moon.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
It's our moon. Okay, So it opens, it's tall, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
So now the hotel is known as one of the
most haunted spots in Dallas, second only this room. We asked,
it's only two years old, but who knows what stood
on it before?

Speaker 1 (42:52):
They probably do that would be we.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Should have had a lighting cue where it all goes out,
like all the light the lights go out, including the
egg sit sun.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Oh, that's illegal because the scariest thing is a fire hazard.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yes, okay, all right, So the guests that Theodolphus have
reported a number of strand experiences. There's complaints from guests
being woken up by the sound of someone running down
the hallways, which me too, right, We've gotten that a
couple of times, and it's children or ghosts.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
I don't know, ghost children the worst of all. That's right.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
People feel like someone's watching them at all times in
a really creepy way. They hear doors slam, or hear
the sound of a swing band playing music like old
tiny music.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
In the middle of the night.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
And when these incidents are reported, the hotel security goes
to investigate.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Of course, there's nothing there.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
And actually the nineteenth floor of the hotel appears to
be the biggest concentration of ghost activities because there was
a ballroom located there like in the way back time,
and there were big bands playing there like Benny Goodman
and Glenn Miller played there, and so you can still
hear the music sometimes late at night playing, which sounds

(44:08):
kind of nice. I mean, if you're gonna get haunted,
I guess that's not the worst way.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Now, there's simply no way. It could be the radio.
I'm just saying, are you a ghosty bunker? I might
be a bit of a devil's advocate just for fun
on this one. Oh, it's the devil. It's the devil
in his band.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
I guess you know what it is is that swing
music and sing When you first were like a swing
dancing and then I was like, do works? So that
doesn't feel threatening to me? That feels like a gap
ad from the nineties, or like, stop it, stop throwing
her over your back, it's not interesting.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Did you ever have to go on a terrible date
where you went to swing dancing? Never wants, no way.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
How many of us fucking tried to convince our boyfriends
at the time to take us to this fucking swing
dance lesson?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Did you for real? I tried and he was like,
I guess I'll go, But it never happened. You know
why I didn't because I was blacked out drunk in
the gutter.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Thank you, because now it I don't need dance set up.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
No one's gonna swing Carron over their shoulder unless they're
carrying her home. Ray it's so truem okay.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
So yeah, like you know the normal fucking ghosty shit.
But here's the thing is, there's been a shit ton
of deaths that have happened since the hotel opened in
nineteen twenty two. So they contribute those deaths to the
rumors of it being haunted and including multiple murders from
a very murderous, nefarious elevator shaft out for vengeance, which

(45:47):
is all I can come to the conclusion of, because
it's that's my thought.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
It's that are a lot of people just are clumsy. Okay.
October twenty God damn it. Sad that Stephen say in
Oh he didn't even give it. Shout out to Stephens.
Sorry we missed you at the top. He's not here.
He's not here, but he's listening in the future. Yeah,

(46:14):
as a ghost. Can you tell him? Trying to make
this spooky even though I don't really believe in ghosts.
God damn it. He died of mustache. Turns out his
mustache wax had uh stuff in arsenic in it.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Okay, So, just two weeks after the Adolphus Is Grand opening,
an Italian waiter who had just moved to Dallas from Chicago. Okay,
he was in the main lobby of the hotel walking
toward the elevator and he's like he turns to he's
one one's elevator and he's.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Like, yeah, what's up, Let's just get the elevator. It
turns out that he didn't notice the elevator lift is
already left, and he falls three floors down the elevator shaft. Shit.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
His skull is question, he eyes two hours later at
the Baptist Sanitarium, where doctors unsuccessfully performed the operation of
raising the bone, which I don't know what that is,
but I guess I tried to do it last night
after forensic trials conteta work.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, girl, that's right, that was it.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I did not plan that, and I'm sweating now. Was
that a genuine riff?

Speaker 6 (47:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Come on, that's what we're looking for. Let me show
you this lobby that distracted him, raised that bone. I
don't know, it's a it's a lobby. It's nice, it's huge.
Watch out for that elevator. It is murderous, okay.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
In May nineteen thirteen, a forty five year old insurance
man and shriner from New Hampshire is out for a
walk with a group of men after they have a
nice dinner at Theodolphice, he becomes ill and quote sinks
to the sidewalk. His friends help him back to the hotel,
and thirty minutes later he's dead. The death has ruled
an acute attack of indigestion an apoplexy, which could mean

(48:10):
a stroke, but it's also possible. The medical examiner use
this as a random term for sudden deaths since they
didn't have the like technology we have now, so they
were like.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
He's dead. It's either stroke or this or that or
that apoplexy.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
They like, yeah, they lift up his coat and they're
just like, this really feels like apoplexy to me.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
I don't and I've got to go right Still, we
have to figure out what raising the bone is though
a skull around I.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Think it's like they yeah, I tried to find it
and it's like cranial fucking craniotomy.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
It's definitely.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
If that's the same person that jump my line, you're
dead meat. I'm going to find you in a parking lot.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
It's not she's a craniologist. You're only allowed to yell
shit out if it's real true science. No, you're not
allowed to yell shit at all. Don't have damn it.
Never never, never. But also, what if.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
It's just a crane that's yelling stuff. I get to
do my national geographic jokes. It's not all boner jokes.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Goddamn it. I throw you under the bus immediately. I
was just trying to get a cheap laugh. God okay.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
In February nineteen fifteen, at twenty six year old man
is in town on business from Iowa. He's at dinner
with another business man. That's all they did back now,
that's all they did is business dinners. He goes, excuse me,
I'm going to go to my room real quick and
go to the bathroom. He goes up there and then
he quote throws himself across the bed and is soon
in convulsions and fucking.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Dies on the bed.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
And when they go to check it out, they find
in the bathroom an almost empty six ounce bottle labeled
poison with a skull and crossbones. Probably yeah, I've seen
that before. Here's the note that he left right before
he died. Quote, I got the wrong bottle.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Love to all Ooh he's kind of a joker. No,
I think he.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
I think he was like I think they put you know,
mouth wash and poison in the same bottles then, and
he was like swig, oh fuck, guy screwed up?

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Goodbye. Doesn't that suck?

Speaker 3 (50:15):
You know when you're like, I bet they were drunk
because they're business men. I hope so so like ten
old fashions later, I guess fashions are called back then.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Later sligaroo of the fucking right, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
God damn it, this was for the rats, like why
would you have a mouth wash sized bottle of poison
right near the bathroom, saying.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
These are all great questions. I don't have answers, okay.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
In December nineteen seventeen, after stopping to let a passenger
off the sixth floor of the Adolphus Annex, which is
a brand new twelve story edition they kept building shit,
the sixteen year old elevator boy attempts to hop on
the already ascending elevator.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
He's gonna like Zop's but I'm gonna get it. No, Zachariah, No.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
He falls one hundred feet to the basement and guys, obviously, okay,
this fucking elevator shaft.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, it's angry.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
At no point were they like, how about a little gate?
Put up a gate have it like a basic fucking I.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Mean, were they not used to moving mechanical things back then?
Was about it where they just didn't have the respect
where they were like if.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
You're gonna do like it's everything is your fault back then,
I think up until like two.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Thousand and one, everything is your fault. Oh that's right, right,
you can sue anybody. It was every man from exactly.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
So in January nineteen twenty, just after eleven pm on
the Commerce Street entrance to the Adolphice, a chauffeur for
the auto for a different auto company is fatally shot
three times by the chauffeur from the Adolphus. Like I
think it's the like chauffeurs and they're like dueling chauffeur company.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Yeah, like chauffeur wars.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, that new show the Discovery Channel. What the fuzz?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
So it turns out and like twenty people witness the
shooting and one of the co workers coworkers of the victim,
tells police that the man who was dead had started
a fight at the chauffeur's strike several days before with
this other dude, and the gunman had a bruis and
cut on his face to show that he had gotten
in a fight with this guy.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
The guy shows up and fucking shoots him. Why weren't
they still on strike? They'd settled it all down on
October twenty You're right, you're right, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
I'm asking who about union union issues from nineteen dead.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
I wish she wouldn't. I'm always asking you not to
ask me about you. So sorry. You know it's my trigger,
but it's my passion, your passion. This is never gonna work.
My passion is your trigger.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
That Karen and Georgio's story.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Yes, forward by our therapist. We haven't seen in months.
We must be happy for us. I mean, he's like,
they must be fine, They're great. Okay, this is a
good job. Yeah, yeah, yees, yes, yes, and we're back.

(53:26):
We're back at the fucking elevator shop. Oh no.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
In October nineteen twenty four, a thirty year old cook
sticks his.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Head in the fucking elevator. Dude, No, where is that
damn elevator And.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
He's taking a sip of poison as he doesn't should
be down here pretty.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Soon instantly killed by the descending car, I would.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Imagine, And then like you got to think about the
ripple effects of all of these people who watched people
die in elevator shafts.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Sure did they get a free night at the A Dolphins?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Like?

Speaker 1 (53:57):
What the fuck right?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Yes you can have you there's aspic or you could
have I'm trying to think of old fashioned dishes. Just
a bunch of gravy on us.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
It's on us, do you know?

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Just so much consummate.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
About a bunch of herring, no sides included. This reminds
me of quick sidebar. My dad told me a story
one time because he's a firefighter in San Francisco, and
one time they went to a call and when they
got there, it was an elevator that had dropped in
the map. I don't think they drop a lot, although

(54:33):
I do always after he told me the story, check
you know, there's a certificating inside every elevator and you
can check the last time I was inspected.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
So as you're descending, as you're like, ooh, my stomach
did it? Oh shit ninety three?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
So my dad told me that they walked in I
think it was a bank or some old building in
San Francisco, and they walked in and the elevator car
was all the way almost all the way down, and
the and a guy's his foot was sticking out of
it and he had stepped into the elevator car and
then it dropped with his weight. Something happened. The car

(55:09):
snap dropped, caught on his foot, so the only thing
that was keeping it from continuing to fall down was
the fact that his was.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I have so many questions. Okay, wait, so his foot
was still on his body?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Yes, well, yes, well because he was hanging upside down
in the dropped elevator car.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yes, okay. And so if he had moved, the elevator
would have dropped.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
He could not have moved because he was pinned by
the top of the He was basically pinned by being.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Stuck like, okay, So that Noah, there's nothing okay about
that man. Did he end up? Okay?

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I believe so, because they had to. And of course
I'm not kidding. I'm sure that when my dad told
me the story, I was like seven, like.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Mouthful of honeycomb. He's like, here's.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Another thing for you to be terrified at the rest
of your fucking gue elevators.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yes, I guess they had to get a jack in
like they went out to a car, got a jack
and then they had to hold the guy's foot which
was smashed, and then jack the elevator car up enough
to get him out.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Good bye. Yep, what a fun stare is?

Speaker 2 (56:25):
What a fun comedy slidebar that was?

Speaker 1 (56:28):
You know what it is?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
I just there's things like this that, because of my father,
had been holding inside for years and now I can
get them out, like four thousand people at a time.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Give it to them. They love it. It's not yours anymore.
This is a they do. It's first responder shit. This
is police.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Have some respect for the first responders and the horrible
things they see at all times.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Man, guys, if you have anxiety anxiety, I highly suggest
you start a podcast and just spill all your shit
to Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
You just get it right out. It's great. Moving on
to more shit. Great. Then February nineteen thirty. A hat model.
She must have had a lovely head.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
She's fine. She walks into the hotel room of a
sixty year old man. He's a hat salesman. She's gonna
I don't know, this is this is dirty. A hat
salesman walks into a bar.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
No, first of all, when have you ever seen a
hat model. They just stick him on those diropham heads.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
I don't really understand this either, Okay, I think, no
ask them because I have them too.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Okay, she's gonna go help him with his Maybe he's
gonna take photographs of her and the jehunty.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Little I don't know in a hat only The point is, yeah,
the point is the man is nowhere to be found,
and she notices that there's a torn window screen, and
so she notifies the staff and the man's body is
soon found in an air shaft. What the young woman

(57:56):
tells authorities that the man had recently been despondent and
told her he and see his family again.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
How did he get into the air shaft?

Speaker 3 (58:04):
According to the news or the newspaper, the force quote
the force gained in the fall from the eighth floor
where he fell from caused the body to tear through
the galvanized iron roof of an air shaft in one
of the inside courts. He plunged through the bottom of
the shaft and uh and fell through where the blades

(58:25):
of the air shaft.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Oh my god, that's like Raiders the Lost Dark shit.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Yeah, and then that explains the loud crash and puff
of dust from fans, reported by a kitchen employees the
night before.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Cover The consumme put your hands out. Now, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
That's just a little bit made up by s Holland Murphy,
but I'm gonna stick to it, and it's now fact.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Wow, well it would It would make sense if you
have that kind of an impact. It's just like what
leans that shit out?

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Bomber okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
June nineteen forty, a crowd gathers outside the hotel when
a man with his clothes ablaze, falls from the eleventh
floor and dies on impact on the bottom. Some witnesses
thought he was overcome by smoke and falls. Other people
thought he jumped to escape the flames. Four days later
after it but it's called an extensive investigation, but who knows?

Speaker 1 (59:19):
An extensive four day investigation into the man's death.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Jurors decide no state laws were violated during the incident,
though nowhere is the fire explained, and they all got
a free stay at the hotel.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
I made that part up, but probably And the corner
walks up. That's totally apoplexy if I've ever seen it.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Yes, yep, where's my free aspect.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
In August nineteen forty six, Okay, according to the fire marshal,
a fifty one year old man wakes up and takes
his burn pillow and sheets into the bathroom. He had
fallen asleep while smoking and lit the bed on fire. Sure,
and he was like, I'm just going to bundle this
up and put it in the tub. Then he dies
after inhaling smoking gas when the fire starts back up again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
He didn't like tamp it out. I don't know, Well,
don't smoke in bed, friends, and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Also don't drink and smoke in bed, because I think
that's a piece of it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Did you ever do that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
There?

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Here? The fire's out, hy tie, that's right? Um, okay,
all right, So here's some fucking murdery shit. That's what
you guys are here for. I mean, the guy with
the suit on fire? Is that alone? Yeah? Is amazing?

(01:00:37):
What was his thing? The jury said it was fine,
everything's fine. He grabbed the wrong bottle. It's fine, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
In nineteen fifty nine of July, the body of a
twenty five year old sex worker is found in a
small courtyard fourteen floors below her room. The Dallas Morning
News described the woman's body plunging down the fourth by
eight in set in the building and hitting the walls
as she went down, And also included it was the
details of such things as what the book she had

(01:01:09):
been reading that was lying on her bed, which.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Was a fool there was. Have you read it?

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I love it. It's a lot like Twilight.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
I looked it up and it said a cunning woman
who uses her irresistible charms to seduce and abandon a
series of influential men.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
You know how he liked to do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
There are signs of a struggle, but the case remains
unsolved for months. Many men are questioned, but it isn't
until months later in January of nineteen fifty nine, when
an eighteen year old woman was beaten and left for
dead at a mercantile at the Mercantile Continental Building in
a closet and in, authorities find a man named Willie

(01:01:52):
Philpott who had worked at the Adolphus and they questioned
him and he confesses to both the beating of the
woman at the Mercantile who survived, and the murder of
the woman at the Adolphice Wow. He tells authorities that
he had been working at the Adolphice and had delivered
food to the woman's room throughout the day, and she invited.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
He says she invited him in.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
For some whiskey and while they were talking quote, his
hand began to twitch in a murdery way, which.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Is like, dude, well that's when you leave. I mean,
great idea.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
If the murder hand starts going, go back to your
own fucking room.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Yeah, take a cold shower, friend, turn yourself in maybe maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Oh. So turns out I have a murder hand. Could
you put me into a cell or a hospital of
some kind?

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Yeah, I want to see the rooms at the Adolphice.

Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Oh haunted, hunted, haunted, haunted, haunted smells weird.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Also, humong gets huge and we're like, and that was
seven dollars a night?

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Yeah, truly. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
So, so he says that she invited him in his hand,
his murder hand began twitch. He chokes her, and then
when she stopped moving, he threw her out the window and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Went back to work.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
He's also confessed to the murder of a ten year
old girl in Longview, and he's executed for that murder.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
March nineteen seventy one, A witness says he warns the
hotel porter to make sure the elevator car is on
the second floor.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
He's going to load in some band equipment.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Remember that swing dancing with Hey, wait, it's nineteen seventy one, so.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
It's bare, that's right. But then this is I don't
laugh like that. I don't know what's happened.

Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
It's like it's the Phlem guy coming back to haunt you.
He's like, I'll show you. He's having his revenge. That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Just after replying, after the hotel porter says, yeah, the
elevator's right here, see and steps into it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Guess that's what it's not there? No, okay, it seems
like with this elevator it never is. No, I'm telling you,
this fucking elevator is a murderer.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Yeah, it is the most famous spirit that everyone claims
to see at the Adolphus, of course, is the Lady
in White, which I think every popular hotel has to have.
The story is that a young woman was left at
the altar getting married. She was going to get married
I during the depression era, and she was so upset
that her fiance didn't show up for the wedding that
she hanged herself in the hotel's grand ballroom on the

(01:04:31):
nineteenth floor, and now she roams the halls of the
Adolphus sobbing and trailing after hotel ghosts. Many ghosts of
reported seeing an apparition of a young woman in an
old fashioned bridal gown.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Can I just ask one question, Absolutely, she's trailing after ghosts.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Did I say that yeah? Hotel guests?

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yes, yes, nope, But think of it. How scary is
the ghost that haunts other ghosts? That's horrifying.

Speaker 6 (01:05:00):
That is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
That's next level fucking EMT meter shit where you are like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Well it's fack now because I said it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah, then the ghost Union gets involved. You can't haunt
them if they're haunting people, one per.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Ghost, please please don't haunt the haunted. Okay, yeah, they
all see the guests. I'll see the ghost of a
young woman in an old fashioned bridle gown on the
nineteenth floor. She's been seen wandering other areas of the
hotel as if searching for something. And when people create,

(01:05:46):
they like sneak up to the nineteenth floor. I think
it was under construction for a while. They always felt
I just wrote they feel different temperatures, yeah, and feel
like someone's watching them because.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
They're like, it's hot, it's cold, it's hot. It's like,
all right, it's it's hot or cold, and it's a
fucking building from the nineteen twelves. Yeah, but it's not.
It's haunted. Guests regularly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Phone the front ask to report heavy footsteps in the
hall or muffled conversation in empty rooms, and when security
goes to investigate, there's nobody around. And they've also the
employees have reported strange activity in the hotel's maids will
feel I'm sorry, a hotel staff will feel a tap
on the shoulder when no one is around.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Eh, that's not a good one. No, and yeah, just sidebar.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
But I uh, today I got no brag breakfast, room
service breakfast, and then I left to go fucking walk
on a treadmill.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Let you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Yeah, I'm at least putting in half an effort. And
since anyway I got it, can get into it right now.
But when I got back to my room, it was
filthy as I left it, but the room service tray
was gone, like snuck in and stole your I didn't
ask for it to be removed. I kind of was thinking,

(01:07:04):
I'm might get back to that, to those berries when
I come home, and it was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Like, isn't that weird? Someone came and took just the trade.
No one cleaned my room or made the bed or
did anything helpful, gave me new tels, just like, yeah,
we'll be taking this back now we only have one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
You can't just pick your food for four hours, so
more of a complaint than anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Sorry, we're not staying at the Adulphice, otherwise that would
not have happened.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Okay, blah blah blah. Bartenders say that bottles move around
and shit, Okay, I know, and flip up in the
air like in Cocktail The Ghost of Tom Cruise. Okay,
there's several videos on YouTube, meaning two videos on YouTube
that show you that show elevator doors on the nineteenth
floor that open and close on their own, and the

(01:07:55):
courtesy phone on the desk there rings all the time too,
and no one's ever on the line. Want to see
a video of that? Hell yeah, okay, So there's a
video by someone named Ariostolic.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
He says we were on the elevator at the Adoptus
Hotel in Dallas got up at the nineteenth floor and
all the elevator doors were opening and closing like crazy,
and the phones were ringing. This happened two nights in
a row, and I don't think there's any volume on it,
which is even creepier already.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Oh do we get to watch?

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
How good is this? Look at them opening and cloth,
thank you for the life. I didn't know we could
run video.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
I didn't either, ask Jay and he's like, I'm mon it, Phil, Yes,
that's ringing in the video, ring, ring, ring ring.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
I'm oh my god. And then look they start opening
and come on, okay opening. Everyone's freaking out. Why is
that one opening? And why am I? Oh that one
just opened? Why am I narrating this? They just started
like ding ding ding closing, opening, God, damn it. This
is supposed to be scary. Am I not helping?

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
I mean they are all opening and you can't argue that. No,
they're freaking out. Also, I just saw a ghost run by.
Did you see it was?

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
He was wearing a slip not shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
I saw him with my own eyes, The ghost with
the cargo shore. Yeah, the scariest.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Okay, So the Adolphice has embraced the haunted reputation. There's
a stop on a haunted tour that's called the Nightly Spirits.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
They stop by the bar.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
The hotel is known as one of the fucking swankiest
hotels in Texas. And you know, it's really nice now,
but people go there just to look for ghosts. Yes,
and the Adolphice was added to the Natural National Register
of Historic Places blah blah blah top ten hotels by
a bunch of travel guides. And since it's construction in
nineteen twelve, the Adolphice has maintained a reputation for being

(01:09:48):
fancy and swanky, and guests want to keep coming back,
which they think is why the ghosts won't leave. And
that is the deaths and ghosts of the Adolphus Hotel.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Amazing. I want to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Yeah, oo spooky. They're gonna sleep with the lights till lightning. Yeah,
it's delightful.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
It's so funny to be going into these old shows
and be trying to remember, like this experience that we
have is so uh like it basically is like one
of three things, you know what I mean. We walk
in the back door, we get walked down a long hallway.
We sit in a green room. We put on our makeup,

(01:10:33):
we do our hair. Georgia tries to convince me to
pose with her.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
For a picture on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
I say no, and if you do it, I'll kick
you in the shen And then I says this photo
and you're like what about this? And then she says,
don't forget filters and then I'm like, mag fine.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
It goes on and on them be each other's dresses.
We fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
She pulls up my spanks for me. There's so much teamwork.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
I forget to strap my shoes before I zip up
my tight as dress, so I have to force Vince.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Like a slave, to on my heels.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
And when they get into stuff like that, I step
out with the hallway and say, you guys, do what
you need to do as a prescher ritual.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
But then it's really funny because then in talk some
of these some of the places are very different. Yeah,
and so my story is going to be from the
DC Constitution Hall. Oh yeah, I think we both remember
February second, twenty nineteen. So this is a lot of
stuff happened at the DC Constitution Hall. We had a
lot of peak experiences there. Absolutely, the look of it

(01:11:39):
was very distinctive, so I can remember being there very clearly.
The audience was like a gorgeous emotional tide that it
ebbed and flowed with us. They were there, they were laughing,
they were gasping, They were right just on the edge
of their seats.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
We had the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Legendary hometown of the woman who tried her best to
talk about lorraina bobbit and she couldn't get it out.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Possibly won the award for the drunkest person that's ever
been on a stage.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
She'd like, she.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Wishes is junkest persons didn't even know me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
This is the one where Vince Thence you know, he'll
have them come up to him and wait in the
wings with him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
And he said, oh fuck as soon as she bless.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Her heart or not making fun of her, I'm sure
she's lovely and was nervous whatever and not explained to
go on stage under I've been Karen, Hey, have.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
We been there?

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
When we're talking about no judgments on drunkenness, I'm telling
you that if I even had a concept of judgment
about drunkenness, I would be smoked down by the Lord
because I have been inappropriately drunk in so many churches,
at so many baby showers, in so many situations I've

(01:12:57):
had gone in high school.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
I feel bad laughing. You can laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
It's it's the kind of thing where I want you
to understand that whether that woman does that every night
or if she just does it once a year, I
don't give a shit. I fucking loved it. It made
my day. And that's the kind of thing where people go,
oh my god, I'm so embarrassed, I got so drunk
last night. And I always go, that's the point. Whatever
you did, you you fucking pede in a driveway, whatever

(01:13:24):
you did that you're so humiliated by. That was the
agreement that you entered into.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Karen just died a signature, an air signature.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
By the way, I don't want people. It's like, you
can have the shame, but then leave the shame.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Leave the shame you're at the garbage door, or do
something with the shame that's constructive if that's what you
need to do, which yeah, yeah, we understand that too.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
If the shame's been sitting there for a long time
and you can't get it to move, then maybe drink less.
So you don't have so much shame to fucking deal with,
and you're just not shoveling.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
It all over the place all the time totally. But
if you're gonna have one great night, do.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
It at the Constitution Hall, the huge, rectangular, shallow, humongous.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Place, and do it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
I don't know if it was the same night, because
it was actually a series of shows. But this on
February two, this night I told everybody about the legend
of the bunny Man, and so that's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
What you're about to hear. That was scary too. Fuck,
it's it's very unnerving. This is scary. This is what
we call.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
This is our Halloween in March show. Don't you miss Halloween.
This is the Giant Skeleton show. Yeah right, bring it back,
bring it back. He never went anywhere. There's people that
are now dressing him up as the Easter bunnet, dressed
dressed to twenty twelve foot skeleton up as.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
You think, we'll dress him as a moll.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Floral mother, the mother from Psycho. You to put that
giant skeleton in a giant rocking chair, put a wig
on it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
It's the mother from Psycho for mothers.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
Yeah, but don't forget a face mask, because that's important.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Quit messing around.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
All right, here's the legend of the bunny Man for everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Are you first? I am first tonight, and I'm excited to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Be first because I'm going to talk about the Fairfax
bunny Man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Oh are they mad at you? Or are they on board?

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Well, I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Is it creepy. It's super fucking creepy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Anything about a bunny man is fucking creepy as shit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Yeah, chatter, chatter, chatter.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
What's super weird is I was just saying to somebody
a couple days ago, like, don't you think rabbits are creepy?

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
And whoever I said it to is like no. You
know why she said no. I was there for this
because she had a rabbit on her collar. She was like, no,
I don't think rabbits are creepy. I love them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Wouldn't be wearing them on my dress if I thought
they were creepy. Sometimes I do that where like, uh,
I see a sentence pop up into my head, I'm like,
just say it, see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
It didn't seem like it was going to be offensive.
I was really trying. I mean it's just trying to relate.
It's a fucking fact of your life. It's a fact
of my life and an opposite fact in her life. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
So just to you know the I got a lot
of this information from the Washingtonian dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Smart smart people. That's sure. There's also a website called
only in your state that's dummies, you didn't graduate high school? Yeah? Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
I don't know if only in your state, if they
have one for every state, or if it's just for
you know, I think they do, do they Okay, because
I thought it was only in this state.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Anyway, so this is part of this has been an
urban legend around these parts with the past vot. I
don't know if this one. Okay, So we're starting here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Let's do it long ago.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Can someone start a campfire really quick, like the vibe right, Yeah,
light the speakers on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Long ago, there was an insane asylum in the woods.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
This is how you know it's an urban legend. Yeah,
no one's ever built an insane asylum in the woods.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Just that one cropsy lived at right, and then after
that they were like, we gotta stop doing this. They don't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
There's no need to put these things in the woods. Yeah,
there was an insane asylum.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
In the woods dividing the town of Clifton from Fairfax Station.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
I looked at both of those cities on Google Maps today.
They are gorgeous, okay, But the locals in both of
those towns didn't like the idea of having a having
a whole hospital filled with the criminally insane.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
I don't know if they were criminally insane.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
I just put that in a criminally insane house so
close to their city. So they started a petition to
close the asylum.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
They sound like great people. It's like down a little
oh and then or over or over? Oh wait back? No,
not back there we go? Oh yes, yes, back. Okay,
that's creepy as fuck. The bunny Man Bridge. I'm trying
to set up scene of things being in the forest. Yeah,

(01:18:38):
let's not skip ahead to bunny Man Bridge yet. Okay, sorry,
forest forest, creepy, hate it, stay out, buck in line okay.
Disease everywhere. So they closed the asylum. Oh, they did it,
they did it. Oh, that's lame.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
In nineteen oh four, they closed the asylum and all
the patients are piled into a bus from.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Nineteen oh four.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
All it takes is just if you print out an
urban legend and read it aloud.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
You're like, no, no, I don't think so, very unlikely.
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
So they get into a big yellow bus.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Okay, a greyhound Missus Partridge is driving, and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
All the inmates are driven. The patients are driven to
Lorton Prison. Great, okay, that's a prison nearby. On the way,
the bus swerves and crashes, of course, and after the crash,
the all of the patients run into the forest. Most

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of them are caught and brought back to Lorton Prison,
except one man named Douglas Griffin. So while they're searching
for Douglas Griffin, the authorities find a trail of half
e and gutted rabbits and many more hanging from a
nearby underpass tunnel below the Fairfax Station Bridge. Oh, I

(01:20:12):
probably should have brought the tunnel up now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Somebody made this online. Oh no, I think it would work.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
I didn't know what works a gift.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
I didn't know we could do get that, so it's
great to know we could do. You're scaring everyone to
that the creepiest. That's the creepiest giff I've ever seen.
Kind of got this fucking these live shows have now
changed that. I know we can do fucking gifts now
that we can do bugging.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Gifts much as we want, I better turn that off.
That gift was made by someone named Sam Wolf Connolly.
The entire website was called samwolf Connolly dot com. So
I got really scared that if I didn't credit this gift,
it seemed like it seems like a big deal for
Sam Wolf Connolly, So I want him to get full credit.

(01:21:06):
He seems to be great at making gifts. You can
call them jiffs if you want to, but that's not
what they actually are called.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
There we were somewhere the fucking agent.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Our agent was like, yeah, there, we could use a jiff,
and I'm like, uh what.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
He did it casually, as if we weren't all like
what like she just said it in sentence and then
one and was just like, what like, that's peanut butter
you nerve? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
So then right, dead hanging rabbits, what the police? Some
are crying, some are holding each other. If it's an
urban legend, you can say whatever the fuck ah mayhem.
So then the police searched Woods for Griffin for months
they can't find him. And then on Halloween night, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
He had a calendar in the wood, and he was like,
this is kind of creek, right, I would saying, how
the fuck would you know?

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
This is gonna be great? He does something on Halloween
night at the stroke of midnight where I was just like,
what does he have?

Speaker 5 (01:22:10):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Just an amazing digital watch back in nineteen oh four. No,
he didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
He's standing by the sundial all day, come on midnight.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Sunday. Wouldn't help you, No, okay, it's myerb been legen now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
So then on Halloween night, several teens that phrase. That
phrase is a red flag right there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Yeah, because the teens didn't exist until the nineteen fifties.
That's true, right, that is exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Also, anytime someone uses the phrase several teens, they don't
know what they're talking about. There's two, or there's five,
or there's like thirty, and they're pushing a bus over. Okay,
a lot of rules. And then on Holloway night, several
teens meet up under the bridge to hang out and

(01:23:05):
party Halloween style. Okay, but this is it's nineteen oh four,
nineteen oh four, So what they did is they got
one big piece of molasses and they broke it off
several different pieces.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Oh fun, eat this, Anne, Marie. That kind of shit.
They're partying, okay, And at the stroke of midnight, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Uh, several teens are attacked by an axe wielding man
who's dressed like a rabbit.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Oh wait, don't know. He went to a fucking costume shop,
got a digital fucking watch.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Sorry I skipped ahead. He's not dressed like a rabbit. Sorry,
they're just attacked with an axe.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
The next morning, several teens are found hanging from the
bridge Jesus scudded like the rabbit Douglas Griffin had left
in his weight.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
And when police finally find Douglas Griffin at that tonnel overpas,
I wrote overpass, but it would really be the underpass part.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
He's not on the top.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Oh no, he is on the top because he runs
away from the police onto the tracks and is hit
by an oncoming train. And after the train passed, they
heard Douglas laughing.

Speaker 5 (01:24:25):
Now what?

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
And then it's eventually revealed that Douglas Griffin had been
institutionalized for killing his entire family on Easter Sunday. Oh, okay,
just so much bullshit. You have to pick one holiday
per urban legend.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Yeah, do you know what I mean? It's an East murder.
It's celebrated on holiday.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
You can't how they do it her Okay and to
this day, mm hmm, it's said that if you are
at bunny Man Bridge at midnight on Halloween night, you
too will meet the fate of those several teens and
innocent bunnies. Now, I just want to share this with you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Oh no, why why would anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
These are I was trying to look for things, you know,
different pictures on the Internet, and if you put in
creepy bunny or bunny killer or the bunny Man, like,
this comes up immediately under bunny Man.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Yeah it does. They're like, here's what you're getting yourself into.
You sure you want to proceed? Click yes or no?
Click yes or no? Love Google.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
I just anytime I see one of those things, I'm like,
please introduce me to the person who made that mask,
because they based it on what they think faces look like.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
And bunnies and bunnies hate it. Goodbye. Ye by that
doesn't that's not related. I just wanted to show you
that picture. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
So this story first started getting told. It appeared in
nineteen seventy three in the University of Maryland's school paper,
The Fighting Rabbit Masks, and from then it's been told
and retold by several teens.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
God, they will not quit it. Guys, have you learned anything?

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
So here's how you know it's an urban legend. It
starts exactly like that scene from The Fugitive where the
bus crashes and all the run off the bus also
an asylum in the forest. As we said, it just
would never happen, It didn't exist, all these things.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
I wrote it out. How did he know?

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
It was a stroke of midnight, bloody blue? Okay, So
there's an archivist, the Fairfax County Archive is named Brian Kahn,
who grew up hearing this story and finally decided he
wanted to look into it and see where it came
from and what it was all about. And so he
researched it for ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
WHOA, Yes, that's an urban legend. That's too long.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
And at the stroke of midna on New Year's Eve
he realized he wasted a shit time. He seems like
the kind of guy who's like, I'm a researcher, but
I don't want to get into like heavy shit or
boring shit. I'm just going to talk about stories people
tell each other for fun. So in two thousand and

(01:27:37):
two he published what is considered the foremost paper on
the Fairfax bunny Man, and thank god he did.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Nobody else had even submitted one, and they were like,
go ahead, dude, no one's competing with you. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
So one of the first things he finds out is
that Lorton Prison wasn't even open until nineteen sixteen, so
that it could be in that prison they were driving
their big yellow bus.

Speaker 5 (01:28:01):
Two.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
There were no records of any asylum ever having been
in the forest between those two cities.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Hasn't been asylum around you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
I'm just going to now start doing a foghorn leghorn
impression when I say the phrase twenty five years. Also,
there was no records of anyone named Douglas Griffin living
in the area, and there was no bridge anywhere near
the forest that lies between us two cities. The story
is nothing without a bridge, which really falling apart.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Yeah, okay. So Brian Conley believes.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
That the story is referring to Fairfax Station Bridge on
Colchester Road, which that actually was a picture of, which
was a party spot for local several teens and also
is creepy looking tunnel. And now Google Maps calls that
bridge bunny Man Ridge, and that's it's called that there.

(01:29:02):
It's actually officially called that now or you know, at
Google headquarters. But here's the twist, it's actually based on
a true story.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Shut the fuck up. Yes, everybody's bad. So I'll show
you this. Show me something. Tell me about the thing
you're gonna Is it another bunny costume? Could it be
a okay, no, so listen. No, yeah, currently run nineteen

(01:29:36):
seventy seventy seven zero.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Okay, I'm seventy got it. There were two incidents in Burke, Virginia.
You're cheering for yourself. You have a bunny man running around?
How dare you an AX wielding bunny man? You or
cheering the fighting ACX wielding bunny man?

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Yes, that high school.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
So there's two incidents. The first one on October eighteenth
and nineteen seventy Air Force Academy cadet Robert Bennett and
his fiancee. They've just come back from a football game
around midnight that's stroke.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
And they went to his uncle's house.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
So he decides he's going to pull his car into
the empty field across the street from his uncle's house.
And they're sitting in the car, the engine is on
and all of a sudden they see I lost my spot.
All of a sudden, they see something moving outside the
rear window. This is on the fifty four hundred block

(01:30:42):
of Guinea Road, if anyone wants to double check my sources.
Moments later, the front passenger window is smashed and there's
a man in a white suit and long bunny ears
standing near the broken window.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
The man starts screaming at them about trespassing. He says,
you're you're on private property.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
I have your tag number, And as they drive away,
they find a hatchet on the car floor.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
Neither of them are hurt. What here's Oh, I don't
get it. You're not supposed to. This is out of order.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Basically, later on Bennett's Who, he ends up getting married.
It's it's called.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
What's happening?

Speaker 5 (01:31:38):
This is?

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
This is where I'm like, and the KKK is in
burke all of you no.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
The guy when it happened, the guy was like, it's
a guy in a white suit with long bunny ears,
and the wife's like, actually it was a Spanish caprioti
or whatever, however you pronounce this correctly.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
She thought it was that thing. I guess you could
see that being bunny ears. There's the real hatchet that
they found in their car. The piece gave it back
to them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
After the whole thing, and they went ahead and mounted
it and put it up on a wall next to
their singing trout. So Brian Conley actually goes and finds
the Bennetts there. You know, obviously they were dating when
this happened to them. They were now they have been
married for forty five years. They don't like talking about it. Yeah,

(01:32:30):
let's hear it for fidelity.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
So nice.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
They don't like talking about it, but they did.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
Confirm, yes, this did happen, and they don't like talking
about it, but they got the fucking he come on,
that's just for family.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
That's all they talk about all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
That's in their secret bunny man room off the kitchen,
next to the trout.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
You have to go on.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
So basically he confirms the story not only with the
Bennetts but also with.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
Captain Bennett's.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Was he a captain no, a cadet with Robert Bennett's
aunt who clearly remembers the night that it happened and
says that she remembers combing shards of glass out of
the girlfriend's hair. So fun image, right and haunting. Where
was the uncle in all this? Whose hair was he combing?

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Then two weeks after the Bennett attack, the Benny man
shows up again a block away.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
Now this time it's October twenty ninth, nineteen seventy. You
see how we're creeping up on Halloween? I see it there, Okay, okay, goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
A private security guard for a construction site named Paul
Phillips spots a man on the front porch of a
new unoccupied house, so he goes up. This is in
Kings Park West, also on Guinea Road. It's a gorgeous
housing development, so many nice porches. So he comes up
and he's like about to say, hey, you can't be

(01:34:00):
around here whatever, and he sees a guy in a gray,
black and white bunny costume holding an axe, And when
he begins to speak, he thinks. The man's twenty years old,
five foot eight, weighs around one hundred and seventy five pounds,
looks like a bunny, looks exactly like a terrible, terrible rabbit.
And as he starts talking to him, the man starts

(01:34:23):
chopping at the porch post that's like on the side,
and saying, if you don't get out of here, I'm
gonna bust you on the head.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
What a tick.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
There's another there's another version of the story where he
says if you don't, if you get come any closer,
I'll chop off your head, which is like the punched
up version of the first one. Busting you in the head,
isn't It doesn't even seem that threatening.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
But you know that thing where you like you can't
say the right thing right away?

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
Yeah, I should have said, why did I tell him
I was gonna bust him in the head? What was
it even?

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Mean's meaningless?

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
I chop off, chop off your head, going to chop
off your head next time.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
That's what I'm gonna say next time. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
So, in the weeks following these incidents, more than fifty
people contact the police claiming to have seen the bunny Man.
Several newspapers, including the Washington Post, report that the bunny
Man ate a man's runaway cat.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
What Yes, he made that up.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
I just I'm not laughing at a dead cat. I'm
laughing at the idea that a Washington Post reported.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
I should go out. Yeah, uh huh, it's was it
a tabby or a calico? What am I doing with
my life?

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
There were actually several more Washington Post articles about the
bunny Man. One on October twenty second, the bunny Man
and man in bunny costume sought in Fairfax. Another one
on Halloween the rabbit reappears. Then a week later bunny
man scene, and then two days after that, bunny reports

(01:36:02):
are multiplying.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
That's stop it, stop it. Someone was bored out of
their mind.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
In nineteen seventy three, a student at the University of
Maryland College Park named.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
Go the Uh you got the shattered windshields, the fighting
shattered windshield Yeah, that is a very dangerous mascot.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Imagine you're just like the Bad Years and you're like,
what you have to play against shattered glass?

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
The mascot has rolled in some shattered glass.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Yeah, it swings their arms at you. This is not regulation.
So Patricia Johnson actually submits a research paper. So this
is years before our friend, Brian Conley, and it's saying
that there have been fifty four vers on those two

(01:37:01):
incidents since they had been reported. So basically she was starting,
I think a study on urban legends and how stories
like this. If you got a nugget of something good,
like a man in a bunny costume with an axe,
that thing is gonna go. It's just gonna spread and
go everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
Yeah, it's like Gonnorrhea, the good kind, that good gunner.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
So Brian Conley in his studies, he finds police reports
confirming that the Fairfax County Police did look for a
male in his late teens or early twenties dressed as
a bunny. Never say rabbit, always bunny, but they don't
find anything conclusive. And in one of the police last
police reports, it said, after a very extensive investigation into

(01:37:52):
this and all other cases of this same nature, it
is still unsubstantiated as to whether or not there really
is a white rabbit. So to this day, no one
knows who that bunny man was or what motivated him.
Brian Conley's theory was that there was a grumpy old
man that owned that property across the street from Bennett's

(01:38:14):
uncle's house, and that grumpy old man was very angry
about all the development that had been happening in the area.
He died about a year before that first event, and
so Brian Conley thinks that it's a family member that
basically is out there was fighting the good fight for
old Grandpa or whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:38:31):
Also in the klu Klux Klan, perhaps perhaps a deep racist,
but he didn't have the right stuff with him, so
he's just like, just give you that big mask the
rabbit outfits.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Fine, I'm so angry. Now here's the good news. There
has been a film series called The Bunny Man.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
Oh have you seen it? WHOA, No, I don't like this?
Can we read the video views review? Yeah? It's terrible.
It's terrible. Bunny Man hops onto the screen as the

(01:39:19):
new horror icon.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
It's are you for real?

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
Is it right there? It's horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
It takes place in a chuck e cheese.

Speaker 5 (01:39:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
I watched the first eleven minutes of it. Oh my
god this afternoon. If it's on Amazon Prime, please feel
free to sign up and.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Are passwork.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
It's a It's a Carl Lindberg film. And you know
when you're looking for a film, what I recommend is
that you look on If you look on like IMDb
or the cast list and it says who played who.
If none of the characters have last names, you know
you're in for a treat because it's like Johnny and
Rachel and Digby and texts and you're just.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
Like, oh no, this is not this is not going
to be good. Uh And there was.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
You know that Karl Linberg loved Texas Chance on Massacre
because the first literally the first eight minutes are just
a series of women, bloody women stumbling out of like
abandoned houses and like thinking they're free and then getting caught.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
But then it happens again.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
To a different girl and you're like, wait, was that
other one back in time and this is now the present?
Or did is this just two different girls that got loose?
What the fuck is whose house is that? There's no
mailbox with a last name, there's.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
No last names.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
It was just it was tough to follow. And do
you mind if I just tell you about bunny Man please.
There's just when it gets into like the part where
you're like, okay, now we're it's there's five people driving
in a car. Oh no, sorry, there was six because
there's four people in the back seat of this car.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
You know how you do it? You know, always, if
you're gonna go.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
On a road trip, you shove four people really uncomfortably
in the back. And then just this big truck comes
and starts ramming the back of the car for no reason,
and they're like, digby, pull over, and it's just like,
who would pull over when someone's trying to kill you
with a truck.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
That's not the thing to do. No, you drive away.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
And also it's like a big truck, you could probably
get away. Yeah, I mean it was just a terseell.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
But still, I mean, yeah, kick two of those people
out of the back seat and you're gonna fly, that's
for real. But you know what they do.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
They pull over to apologize to the truck for making
him mad, and one of the guys in the back
seat is like, send a girl so she can act
sexy and he'll forgive us.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
I swear to go. So then they send her. Oh,
you can write the rest yourself, and you should. You should,
Oh honey. So this was such a hit, this film.
Yeah that. Then there's Bunny Man two. I didn't have

(01:42:09):
time to watch it. I'm so sorry, one by one,
they all fall down. Is their tagline.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
This goes a little bit this is it's a little
bit more reservoir dogsy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
It looks, yeah it does. It has the look and
the fell and the bunny.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
And then of course there's bunny Man massacre. They didn't
call it three. They called it massacre.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
This is. There were two posters. I think this one
must be the European release.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
There is in the tunnel.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
I can only read part of the quote, but it
says if you I'm going to guess it says, if
you thought bunnies were soft and cuddly, think again.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
Yeah, I can fucking tell. Also, yeah, there was bunny
Man four.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Also, Oh, how bad do you think it's smelled in
that head by.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
The by this point, yeah, they use the same costomower movies.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Yes, can we get some dry cleaning budget in this thing? Gee?
But here's the thing. If you have a dream, go
for it. Go for it one, two, three and four
times if you need to. Yeah, that's a good message.
Tell the story, Tell the story of your heart. It
needs to be told.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
Yeah, Okay, here's what I love. The town of Clifton.
You guys, well, then you know have fully embraced this
urban legend. Oh cool, because every year at the stroke
of midnight on Halloween. Now, No, they have a thing
called the Clifton Haunted Trail, which is a Halloween thing

(01:43:51):
that they do. On the website the Clifton Hauntedtrail dot com,
it says it's scheduled for October twenty seventh, from seven
to ten. I don't know if that was twenty eighteen
or if they're so on their shit that they're already
planned and completely set up for twenty nineteen. But the
website says eight acres filled with scary skits and spooky scenes.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
Doubt it. No, you have to look at this website.
There's some upsetting shit on there.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
One one is a it's a rabbit costume, but then
the rabbit has these insane like piranha things, like if
you brought a twelve year old there, they'd have a
nervous breakdown for sure. Then there was a picture with
like it looked like a selfie, but it was all
evil clowns.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
It's just like, all right, everyone's into it, it seems
doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
Monster movies under the Moon concession stand selling food, drinks
and other goodies. Please refer to the vendor page for
more information. Wear sturdy shoes. So you walk down a
trail that's one half mile long in the woods and
then like terrible rabbit and clowns come at you, and

(01:45:02):
snacks and food and drinks.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Sea vender page.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
Parking is available in town and at Clifton Elementary, so
you don't have to go a park and then haul
your ass down the trail, which right there, I'd just
be like, oh, cancel those tickets.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
Can I bring a scooter? What are those scooters? Oh
like a lark?

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
Yeah, get one of those get around ones when the
person goes to the Grand Canyon. I did it either one, uh,
A snappy, a razzie, a snazzy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
A rascal.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
We did it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
We did it as a team. No dog's allowed on
the trail.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
Your dog can't go and then just start biting the
shit out of some evil rabbit. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
No, it was a good dog. It would attack, I know,
and try to save you. Yes, Oh that's cute. All
proceeds benefit the town of Clifton. Let's please all go
this next year there. I think it could be good
really quick.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
There's a cryptozoologist named Lauren Coleman has a blog called
Crypto Mundo and he also wrote wrote the book Weird
Virginia and Yeah Right, and in a section on the
bunny Man, he believes that this urban legend is in
direct association with the goat.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
Man of Maryland. They were friends, They're really good, they
were in the army together.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
Really quick. And this is definitely for another podcast. But
the goat Man of Maryland, just so you know, is
an axe wielding half animal, half man creature that was
once a scientist who worked in the Beltsville Agricultural Research
Center experimenting on goats until one experiment backfired and then
he was mutated into a goat man who roams the

(01:46:54):
back roads of Beltsville, Maryland, attacking cars with an ad.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Ever, do I am, that's what goats like? Cars attacking
cars goats? There's so nuts.

Speaker 3 (01:47:07):
Whoever made that up needed to pick four of those
ten items, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Yeah, Okay, I'm going to end this on an up note.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
I would love that because most of this was bullshit
and I appreciate you partying.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
With me for it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
But there is one true horror story about the Lorton
Prison that is historically accurate and it's pretty interesting. So
in June of nineteen seventy, nineteen seventeen, there's a women's
suffragette movement called the Silent Sentinels.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
Hey mother, hover, do it okay, high lady.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
So they had been protesting in front of the White
House demanding the right to vote, and on November fifth,
nineteen nineteen seventeen, they were arrested and brought to Lorton Prison,
and that was referred to as the Night of Terror,
as these women were chained beaten. One seventy four year
old suffragette was stabbed with a broken end of her

(01:48:14):
picketing banner. The protest leader Lucy Burns was shackled with
her arms over her head, stripped and left freezing in
a cell. Alice Paul began a hunger strike to protest
the torture, so they held her down and force fed
her raw eggs through a trube that they shoved down
her throat.

Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
Is said something about a high note that you were
going to end on.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
Is this it?

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Get ready? This is insane?

Speaker 5 (01:48:37):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
The Silent Sentinels were tortured for two weeks in that
prison and then released. But I guess this is a
high note. The word of this abuse in this prison
spread and suddenly everybody started getting really fucking into the
suffragette movement. And in two years later, in nineteen nineteen,
women won the right to vote.

Speaker 5 (01:49:01):
And that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
Kind of is the story of the Fairfax but women, Wow,
we did it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:14):
WHOA another terrifying legendary story.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
I believe if I'm not mistaken, that there's a ton
of axes in that story, Stephen, you just reacent.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
Yes, just like the axe axe work.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Is all over the place. Wait, hold on, I can
hear your dog snoring. Yes, okay, hold on, that's Frank.
He's done nothing all day.

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
I'm snoring like I feel like you're over laughing at
the one girl snore.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
Wait, hold on, I'm gonna put Frank's pad in some
warm matter, put her bra in the friend frazer. Uh okay, okay.
Now we're going to do the hometown for this quilt.
We're going to wrap it up. And this is the
hometown that got performed all the way back in twenty eighteen.
Ooh in Nashville, Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
R anascent babies. We did not know what was coming.

Speaker 5 (01:50:14):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
Whenever you hear living a.

Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
Date, do you always think I wish I could go
back and warn you. Like whenever I hear a date
from two thousand and I'm always like, how far was
that from nine to eleven?

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
You know what I mean? Like, Oh, I wish we
could all do something about it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
No, there's nothing to be done.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
Yeah, well the government. One could say the government could
have done something beforehand, but they didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Why is this turned? Is it's turned?

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Let's not do your website right your truther or website
right now. That's for your private life. That's my other podcast,
the nine to eleven Truther podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
This actually is a very well told hometown story, also
told with a hometown accent.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
God bless every time. It's better. It just makes it better,
It just does. Do we have time? I Brown Town murder?

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
Hey now wait, everyone who's right hand is raised right now,
you're disqualified.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
Okay, sit down. Karen has some stuff to tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
This is really important and you have to listen.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
Yeah, like you haven't been this whole time. Goddamn it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
Listen, roommate. That's what me and my sister says. Oh
did I tell you that story?

Speaker 5 (01:51:27):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
I was on the phone with my sister as she
was teaching third grade because she's been doing it for
thirty years, and she didn't give a fuck anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
So we're like gossiping on the phone. Oh yeah, she'll
be super pissed. Uh, we're talking on the phone. She's like, anyway,
I was at this bar and it was super and
then she goes, hold on, excuse me. Room eight.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
Starts very self right, just be yelling at the children
up there, how dare you? And I'm like, Laura, we've
been on the phone for ten minutes. They deserve to
do whatever they want.

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
I just picture them. She hadn't given them any work
to do. They're all just staring at miss kill Gerra anything.
We're bored.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Okay, So here's the rules, and then please trust us
that this is this is over, this is time tested
and mother approved.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
Huh, we want it. It needs to be local. Nobody
gives a shit about where you grew up.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Nashville, Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee. We care about you in
this state. You can be drunk, but you can't be
so drunk that you can't follow your own stories.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
Two drinks, I think max For.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Me in my drinking days, it would have been seven,
but whatever. It's like, it's it's about body mass, it's
about tolerance.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
Are you a better storyteller when you're drunk? Probably? How's
your addiction normally? Yeah, I'm sober and look what's happening.
I mean it's a mess. What was the other one
that was really key? Jon't don't make it do make it?
No reading? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
You're right right?

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Yeah, readings lame. I feel like people know that one already. No,
everyone hates you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
Oh yes, you have to remember that because you got chosen.
Everyone else hates your guts, So I wouldn't come up
he being.

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
Like at first, I'm want to give a shout out
to my buddy, and you're.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
Like, no, act like you have thirty seconds or everyone's
about to kill you. It's the man high story anyway,
if you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
Can win them over, yes, fucking one. Just know you
are on on uh not parole, probation, probabation, the probation.

Speaker 4 (01:53:38):
This is a true crime podcast, okay, and it's my
turn yes to pick yeah lights a little bit, um,
I hate doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Uh uh who are you pointing at you?

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
Yeah, yeah you okay, come on, did you hear? Don't
go oh oh, and then you need to go oh
behind you.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
There's a look at Vince. Can we already tell everyone
look at um.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
My.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
He's he's missing the royal rumble for this. Yes, so
we appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
Oh that's his back there.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
Hold that up again. There's a giant eye and a
giant ear. Look and listen. Shout out to that. I
hold up a giant thumb to you. Hi, oh hi, hi,
you're going to hear today Kelly Bail. It's Kelly Bail.
Everybody whoa hi, y'all? And I want you to know

(01:54:41):
Dary one of my ex husbands. Yes, yes, actually was.

Speaker 6 (01:54:49):
He worked for the prisons and was the guy that
got out like no, lie, he was his helper. He
was actually he like said something to help get him
out because he's a real doodoo.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
Here, busy.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
Just if there's any place you can say shithead, it's here.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
My ex husband is a real shitha. Okay, well you
did it. She already got You've got them all on
your side now. And my murder is it literally happened
next door?

Speaker 5 (01:55:17):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
I live?

Speaker 1 (01:55:18):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:55:18):
Whoa okay, this is good quick question, Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
Is there anything we need to know about John Brown
or that situation that I didn't say.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
Probably some gay stuff happened beween him and my husband.

Speaker 6 (01:55:32):
Oh shit, I'm just kidding here eno, Wow, would he
divorced me otherwise?

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
Okay? Got it? Yes, I'm just here. Where are you from?
Actually here in Nashville? Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:55:47):
I live about three four miles away from here.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
So okay, great party at your house. Come on, I'll
cook for you. Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:55:57):
So the story is is that my next door neighbors,
they had a few children, of course, and their oldest
son owned a bar, and he was a good guy.
You know, he had some issues but whatever, but he
we all.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
Do we all?

Speaker 6 (01:56:13):
Yeah, But he broke up a domestic violence situation and
he was very like he did the same thing, you know,
like every so he would come over every Saturday morning
and visit with his parents. Well, the guy that he
had separated the fight, and he didn't make a big
deal out of it. He just like, get the fuck
out of here, and you know, yeah, and then he

(01:56:34):
told her, he's like, you can stay here. We'll buy
you a drink. And she's like okay, you know, but anyway,
and then of course they got back together because we
all know how that works. But anyway, so the guy
got mad and comes over and I'm telling y' all,
these are like the nicest people in the world. They
he walked you know, we walked in and was visiting
with his mother and daddy, and the guy walked in

(01:56:57):
and knew that he would be there and shot him
dead in front of his family. Oh, next door to
your house, next door. And I'm telling you, like, these
people just good people. So maybe within two years the
mother and father both died and the house is sitting
empty and it probably won't ever be rented. And then
it was like a big deal because it happened about

(01:57:18):
maybe eighteen years ago. The guy got caught. He like
was in a car wash and like the swat team,
like Nashville got to use their swat team, and it
was like bell But yes, yeah, so that's the murder
next door. And so now we call it the murder
house because it is the murder house.

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
Yes it is.

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
And how long has it been empty for?

Speaker 6 (01:57:41):
For I would say fifty Yeah, since two thousand and one,
it's been empty.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
She lived on the other side. That is my child,
but it was my child. What's her name?

Speaker 6 (01:57:54):
Kelly Bell, Caitlin Bell, It's Caitlyn Bell, everybody, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:58:01):
But thank you for letting me share.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
Absolutely, that's how you do it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
Don't hate me, I'll love y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
All right, all right, guys, we've quilted it together once again.
We have.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Thank you for joining us, thank you for being there
when spirit with us.

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
And yeah, just keep it real. We're at the beginning
of the end of the quarantine.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
Yeah, we're gonna hudge you soon.

Speaker 2 (01:58:31):
Just believe it. We're gonna we're gonna hug you with
our There's a hawk right outside my window, just floating
on the air.

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
That's good luck. That's good luck. Is it thinks? So
I say that about everything? But yes, okay, I think
so nice. Yeah, I guess I should just.

Speaker 5 (01:58:49):
Say, Frank, Frank, Frank you good? Okay, Archie, give that
dog onpat machine. My god, stay sexy and don't get murdered.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
Goodbye. Ye Elvis, do you want a cookie?