August 10, 2020 • 26 mins
This week’s hometowns include a murder saw and the Kentucky meat shower.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello, Hello, and welcome. My favorite murder the Mini. So
it's tiny and mini, it's real short.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We're just gonna keep you for a couple of minutes.
We've got some emails from other people to read to you.
If you just hang out for five twenty minutes, Yeah,
it would be great.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Got a PowerPoint presentation to go with it. Yeah, it'll
be quick and easy.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
There's also gonna be sound effects.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We'll have lunch catered in. It'll be great. I'm gonna
go first.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You got it?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You want to go first? Ahead?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Okay, Hey, I'm FM FAM. I know you hate malarkey,
so I'll get straight to the story.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
From Joe Biden's writing to U, Joe Dad, I.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Could see your dad larky.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh no, Jim No, no malarkey.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
He would use a circuitstically, but no, he would say bullshit.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Make it last four minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
My dad owns his own business, a solid waste consulting
and engineering consulting company. I actually work for him as
his marketing director. And then in parentheses YEA for family businesses,
question mark, question mark, exclamation point, exclamation point, close, parentheses
period debbie promo code murder. Because he's an expert on landfills.
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I know right. He had been called in on many
criminal and civil cases over the years, most often because
a landfill employee or customer is killed. But sometimes he
gets called in on a murder trial where evidence or
bodies have been found in a landfill, and this one
I'm about to tell you is both riveting and heartbreaking.
In two thousand and one, Michael Blagg came home from
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work to find his wife, Jennifer, and six year old
daughter Abby missing.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And a blood soaked master bed.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
He called the police, but eventually he was arrested, charged,
and found guilty of murdering his wife. Her body was
found in a local landfill, which is why my dad
was brought in. One of the key pieces of evidence
was material from his workplace that was found in proximity
to his wife's body. However, my dad was for the
defense and argued that the evidence did not indicate that
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her body and the pamphlets from his work could have
come in on the same load. Regardless, Michael Blagg was
imprisoned and a second trial just a couple of years
ago found him guilty. The evidenced against him seems pretty
kun dried until you consider some of the other evidence,
most of which was not allowed to be discussed during
either trial. One shortly after Abby the daughter disappeared, a
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man was pulled over for a traffic stop in a
nearby state. He had a little girl in his car
and some sort of incriminating evidence I think the mom's
driver's license or something that linked him to the family.
It wasn't Michael's car. He had already been arrested, and
another suspect only identified as mister B was identified but
never charged, had confessed to murdering other little girls and
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had a list with both Jennifer Blagg, the mom, and
Abby Blag the little girl, named on it. Many people
think that Abby was kidnapped and trafficked while her mother
was murdered because she got in the way.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I wonder if.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Michael did not murder his wife and someone kidnapped his
little girl and he has been sitting in prison all
of these years. Of course, maybe he did murder them,
and that's awful too. Either way, As a parent to
two young children, this case is heartbreaking. I'm always proud
that my dad played a role in trying to get
to the truth. You guys are amazing and I so
appreciate your honesty and sense of humor. Thank you for
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all your hard work.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Much love, Sarah, Wow, I don't think you did.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean, that's the thing, is that idea that you
could It would be impossible to link evidence like that
at a dumps.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, it's pure chaos.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's just like, imagine all the things that are at
the dumps and if they flew over and landed a body,
you can interpret it a thousand ways.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Like I wonder how many different people could be could
be connected to that just based on the trash that
happens to be there. And then I wonder what happened
to make it so that that other evidence wasn't allowed in.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Court because it kicked out.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That might have made a really huge difference, But who
the fuck not.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
But maybe there was a reason where it was I
don't know. But at the same time, it's like, why
if he were the murderer, why would he allow flyers
from his work to be anywhere near It's not like
that's almost suggesting that he somehow it all got thrown
out with garbage or something that Like, then.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's like he had been at the dump. That would
be the proof somehow but why would he put his
own whatever, We're gonna solve it right now.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I mean, this is what I feel like.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
This is this horrible and tragic case and situation is
kind of what people who get hooked on true crime.
It's this is a perfect example because you could sit
the and like theorize in your armchair quarterback way for
so long about it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's just like what happened and every little element and why? Yeah? Crazy, yeah,
wow yeah, tragic. Okay, this one has maybe my favorite opening.
It just says pleasantries about a year ago. When my
boss learned I was going to your show and what
it was about. He casually asked, did I tell you
about the time I almost bought a murder saw? No,
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I replied, Well, strap in, because I'm going to break
it down for the sake of time. Back in two
thousand and nine, a lady named Patricia Kimmey of Horton,
Kansas was abducted from her home. After days of searching
and collecting evidence, the police believed she had been taken
by force and might be deceased. Flash forward a few
months to when the police officially detained Patricia's killer, Roger Hollister,
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because he tried to kill himself and his wife in
a head on collision after police named him as a
prime suspect. Whoa let me just say this motherfucker must
have never seen a single true crime show because of
how sloppy he was with everything. Anyway. This was followed
up by his wife, Rebecca, being salty as shit that
her husband tried to kill them both and proceeded to
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tell the police what she knew, including taking police to
the gravesite. Oh shit, Rebecca, So what led to the slang?
Patricia's ex husband, who owned a sawmill that Roger frequented,
contracted a hit for seventy thousand dollars because he was
angry about the division of property in the two thousand
and eight divorce. Note that this guy was also an idiot,
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because once the division of property was issued, he told
anyone who would listen would listen, including various family members,
that he wanted her dead and was willing to pay
to have it taken care of.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Not smart.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It was at this point in the story when.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
He followed I want not only do I want her dead, Wait,
come back, I know that's creepy.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I also will pay any price.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I'll pay for it, and then a weekly I mean,
if she's gone, is yea weird?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I'll circle back with you to really underline all the
ways that you can look out for me being guilty
in the future.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
It was at this point in the story that when
my boss said that during the months when Patricia was missing,
he met with the ex husband to buy a used
saw from the sawmill.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
He says that when he met with the guy, he
was being a bit weird about everything and was willing
to sell the overly clean saw for a lot cheaper
than what it was worth. With the situation not feeling right,
my boss passed on the purchase. Turns out he made
the right decision, because when Patricia's remains were found, it
was documented that quote, a forensic pathologist examined the vertebral
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body and the few ribs that were still attached and
noticed a line of deconstruction where the ribs appeared to
have been cut in a straight line.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
In the end, the ex hus been settled in civil
court in a wrongful death suit. What the fuck. Roger
died in prison in twenty thirteen, and his wife, Rebecca
was officially charged with aiding a felon. I'm just glad
that Patricia got justice and that my boss didn't buy
a murder saw whitney.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
H Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, that would be a very creepy position to be
the person that answers the craigs List ad. And this
second you roll up, your every hair on your body
stands up and you're like, get out of this saw mill.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I feel like, let's not buy saws secondhand, guys.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Let's stay out of saw mills in general.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I don't think unless you are run a lathe or
like a very talented logger, there's no don't be over there.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Go to your local hardware store, pick up a you know,
something cute and kitchy and a new, brand new saw that's.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Never been It has to be new.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, whether it's a saw, a hatchet, anything, any Stop
being such a cheap bastard. You're getting yourself into trouble.
I'm not reading the subject line of this. It gives
it all away. Okay, let's just get right to it.
My hometown is Paradise, California. You know, the one that
was completely destroyed by the campfire two years ago. Yeah,
my family survived by the skin of their teeth and
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images and articles from the event still send me reeling
into anxiety and panic. I bet anyway, that's this story.
In our middle school, there was a program for eighth
graders called Northwest eight. Literally because the four portable classrooms
the program used were on the northwest corner of the campus.
About forty five students were sectioned off from the rest
of the school. We attended separate classes, and we had
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just three teachers between us. The real appeal to the
Northwest eight was that the teachers used alternative learning methods
such as simulated history and trips to our local wildlife
areas to learn about the land and California history.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
This is some California Montessori shiit like going way back.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
We went to San Juan Capistrano to learn about the
swallows that came in every fucking whenever. The shit, oh
this is so, this is so California.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It's amazing every fucking whenever. It all went straight into
little George's brain.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, I was piking of on what they were laying down.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, this reminds me of like when missus Cho Williger
would come visit our school and she would bring like
this is a living abalony or whatever, and you'd be like,
learned about the coasts, the coast land or whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yep, get into it, immerse.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It, hold on, I'm let me close my door. Really
quicks the home up.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
We bought a jukebox from the nineties, from the sixties.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
You guys did.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Vince's birthday and it's fully It's from a record store
that refurbish's old juke boxes. So they filled it out
like two hundred and fifty records, old records.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That's badass.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
We had to apply to be in this program, and
it was competitive. We usually looked forward to simulation days
where they remade our little world of classrooms into sets
for whatever we were learning about from Ellis Island. We
were checked for knits and segregated by our home preassigned
countries to the Industrial Revolution. They had us assembling little
paper hats in a hot, loud classroom under cramped conditions
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to a slave ship. I'm not even going to describe
this one because yikes.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
One of the simulations they did was Dot Dot Dot
the nineteen seventy six chow Chill, a bus kidnapping that
Karen covered in the last episode. That's right, our three
teachers dressed as kidnappers with fake guns, vandanas and lots
of yelling. They shuffled us into the back of a
pitch dark U haul parked on school property, and we
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were given instructions to figure a way out. I think
I blocked I think I blocked a lot of this
stuff out, But listening to Carrie tell the actual story
that inspired my teachers to do this was disturbing. Looking back,
I'm really not sure what the lesson was. Something about
teaching us survival and strength maybe, but the lesson I
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learned was don't trust adults, even your teachers, because what
the fuck, I might add this was in nineteen ninety seven,
so not that long ago.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That is still teaching skills then they've been teaching. Yeah,
the eighties, they.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Pushed that eighty shit right up to ninety seven. Way
thanks for everything. The years upon years of listening to
you both has helped me through some rough times see
first paragraph. And recently I completed listening to every episode
from the beginning. It took me eighteen months and approximately
three hundred and fifty miles of morning walks. I love
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that stay sexy and don't let your teacher fake kidnap
you Rachel t good one that is okay, yeah, what
I mean I kind of have to say, but I know.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's wrong, but I love the idea of It's like,
what are you going to do now?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
This crazy shit has happened to you. What are you
going to do now? It's very unfair for maybe the
more delicate people in that class that to be like,
you know what I'm gonna do, I'm going to pee
in the corner and then I'm going to be known
as the peing in the corner.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Correct for the rest of my career.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm I'm going to obsess about the fact that this
happened to children my age every night and not be
able to fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Why would you dah me? What were they thinking? I
want a teacher? And also just like lawsuits and parents,
I still.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Remember this fucking teacher I had in third grade wanted
to show us what sexism was like, you know, in
the old time when like women couldn't work, I mean
in the workforce, And so she separated the boys and
girls and let the boys do whatever they want and
made the girls like turn in homework and then didn't
switch it and let the boy have to make the
boy like she basically did sexism. She underlined, sex is
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still mad about it and the boys were such dicks,
like hah, and they were playing cards and stuff and
we were all like, this isn't fucking fair, and she's like, right,
it's not there.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
But also, how about the lesson be reversing the people
who actually, we already know what sexism is like already
like this, the boys are already in charge ingrained already.
What was how about you flip it, flip that script
and let the people learn.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Who oh wow, I will an opportunity missed. But Rachel
not you. Thank you for sharing your trauma and.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
The things your weird teachers did. So thank you for sharing.
We love to know all about it.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yes, okay, this one's called a Mexican Revolution family murder.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Great.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Hi, y'all just listened to the latest episode, and when
Georgia talked about the Mexican Revolution, I decided to send
you my family murder that happened during the Mexican Revolution.
I came across the story when I was helping my
abuelo sort some belongings and found a letter from the
Mexican embassy and since I can't speak or read Spanish.
My greatest shame, my azuela filled me in. In nineteen twelve,
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my great great grandfather and great great grandmother came to
America seeking asylum, which they were granted, and they built
a life for themselves on a small farm on the
Texas Mexico border. One day, a few years later, my
great great grandfather was out working the farm when American
soldiers rode up on their horses and shot him dead
the fair reason he was Mexican and looked like a rebel.
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This left my great grant grandmother alone to raise eight children. Ooh.
She was pissed, and rightfully so. She fought in court
against the United States and was awarded two thousand dollars
for the death around twenty eight thousand today. She took
that money and bought a huge plot of land and
built a home, which is the same home my abuelo
would grow up in the same home. I spent my
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childhood summurders at visiting my mama great grandma until she passed.
My Buela still owns the home and rents it out
to locals and other family members who still live there.
We used to visit their old town multiple times a
year less so now that my Builo's Parkinson's is advancing,
But it's a special place to my family. It's our
American roots grown from a horrible injustice. This story reminds
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me that not that much has changed, so we must
keep fighting. As my abuela has gotten sicker. Every time
I visit, I worry it could be the last time.
And every time he tells me to never be ashamed
of who I am and where I come from. He
spent right, he spent his whole life feeling ashamed of
who he was because of some racist bastards. And he
told me quote watching you and your sisters grow into
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successful and dependent women and taught me that there is
nothing to be ashamed of. We are strong and beautiful
people and we should be proud of that. Thanks for
all y'all do. Your podcast brings me so much joy
in times of real darkness. Love y'all.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
S that's so cool.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Also, a grandfather that's telling his granddaughter he's learning from that,
totally what a badass like awesome thoughtful man.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's so cool. It is.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's really a beautiful story.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Thank you for sharing that s and I love.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
How much you use the word y'all. That's just my
one of my favorite words. True and not the I
sound sarcastic, I'm not. I remember the one time it
was textans. Remember in the beginning when we were we
were all met, like someone tweeted. I tweeted something and
used the word y'all, and you text us. I'm like, Steven,
why did you use the word y'all? We don't talk
like that. It's like, actually that was me. I like
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it because it's gender neutral. I don't know, like it's
just because it's so not something I would normally say.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Okay, here's my last one. Hey, ladies, I love the podcast,
even if it sometimes freaks my roommate out. Yeah, that's right.
Stand by us.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
This story is about my parents' spooky house, and they're
very good dog all caps.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Good dogs, Georgie and Frankie.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Look at it. How quiet sleep them.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
They know what they have to do to stay in
the room.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, that's right. It's just like me when I used
to ask to be in my cousin Cheryl's room. You
just have to zip the lip and you can stay
in there for as long as you want.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Simple really okay.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
My parents' house was built in nineteen fifteen, and they
bought it just before I was born in the eighties.
It's a pretty normal house, two stories, three bedrooms, a
big yard, and an unfinished basement. We've never finished the
basement as it's prone to flooding, and we've always just
used it as a general sort of laundry workshop, et
cetera space. It's just a little bit creepy the way
that all unfinished basements are, but never freaked me out
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too much as a kid. When you grow up in
an old house, creepy basements and spooky noises at night,
like noisy radiators are just part of life anyway. Around
two thousand and eight, my parents adopted a new dog,
a black lab mix named Clark. Ah mister Clark, I
don't know I missed that name, and when I was
reading this, that's the funniest our childhood dog had passed away.
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My sister and I were long grown and gone, and
my parents wanted a furry friend around the house. Clark
was six months old and incredibly sweet. He'd been rescued
from a bad situation and for years he hated to
be alone and always wanted to be in the same
room as someone that's so frank. He was pretty well
trained by his foster family, housebroken and almost never barked.
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He was and still is to this day. He's doing
great for his age, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
The perfect dog.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
A day or two after he came home with my parents,
my dad was at work and my mom went downstairs
to do laundry. The basement is accessed through a door
with a little closet area on one side in the kitchen,
and it has creaky wooden steps going down to it.
Clark predictably followed my mom down these stairs into the
basement and immediately freaked out. It was the first time
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he'd been in the basement and something terrified him. He
looked around and sniffed the air a little bit, then
let out one sharp bark, the first time my mom
ever heard him bark. He backed up, his hackles were raised,
tail between his legs.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He was so scared he peed.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
On the floor a little bit, and then he raced
back upstairs to the kitchen.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
My mom was at a loss for what had scared
him so much, but obviously something did.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
She went upstairs and comforted him, but he refused to
go back down in the basement. He refused to even
stepped through the door leading to the stairs to the basement.
There's a door to the driveway halfway down the basement stairs,
and that's the only door where you don't get a
face full of flying lab if you enter.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
We've tried everything favorite.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Dog treats, people, food, toys, but nothing in twelve years
has convinced this incredibly social dog to even pass through
that doorway.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
WHOA.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Once when I was visiting, something happened to cause a
small hole in the kitchen floor, and Clark and go
near it until it was covered up. None of us
have ever experienced anything too creepy in the basement, but
obviously something terrifying is down there, and Clark's the only.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
One with the good sense to avoid it.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Stay sexy and don't get murdered in a creepy basement
and then scare a sweet.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Dog, Oh my god, what's down there?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They don't know it up dig I mean something's down there.
That dog knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Or it's like I believe, I think it like it
just for me, It like makes me believe in like
bad vibes more, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Sure, but if it's unfinished, there could be like one
corner of the basement where there's.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Just a body.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It's just like you know in a cartoon when you
scan down underground and you see.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
The skeletons and stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
There could just be a skeleton just right on the
other side of one of their unfinished dirt walls.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Or he's just a design snob and is like, finish
this fucking basement already.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
It's garbage. I don't want to look at it. I
will pee on it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's not here, it's disdained existing that the one thing
he stuck up about is unfinished flooring. In shit, I'm Clark,
finish it. Okay. This my last one's called Kentucky meat Shower.
Oh yeah, Karen, Georgia, Stephen Vince and all the pets,
all Vince. I was listening to the recent minnesot where
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you shared about the jell O rain shower in Washington,
and finally I have a hometown to send you the
story of the Kentucky meat Shower. Here we go back
in March eighteen seventy six, on a clear night in
rankin Kentucky. Missus Couch. I never could find her name
only her husband's Uugh was outside minding her own business,
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doing farmy type things on her farm when all of
a sudden, chunks of meat started falling from the sky.
The chunks were as small as a golf ball up
to as big as a grapefruit. I'm sure this poor
woman was freaking the fuck out. She was interviewed saying
the shower of flesh must have been a sign from God. Yeah. Probably.
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The next day, si sign, I don't know. Go inside,
stay inside, finish your basement. Go inside and finasure basis.
The next day, some random dudes came to the farm
to investigate and said the mystery meat had the distinct
taste of quote rancid mutton, which means they ate tast
which means.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
They taste of it. It's like coton.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It's like the cocaine rubbing it on your tooth, but
the meek shower taste.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It just you just dab it under your tongue each side.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
It says no, thank you. A scientist later studied a
preserved sample and said it had to be some form
of no stick or cyanobacteria that can fall when it rains,
much like the story in the Last Hometown which I
pronounced totally wrong. By the way, in the last I
got so many tweets, but I don't care. Oh whatever,
that's called sciencey pronunciations that I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Oh, are you not a scientist? Do you know I'm
not a scientist? Wait no, because you've really been acting
like one this time.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, and it's on my resume that I gave you
this podcast.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Science smoking fencing.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
The only the problem with that theory is that it
was completely It was a completely clear night, so it
couldn't have been part of the rain. To add further
confusion to the story, a later analysis of the tissue
discovered it to be either lung tissue from a horse
or all caps a human infant. And then it says,
apparently those tissues were indistinguishable back then. Weird, So it's
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probably horse meat, a camp a human infant. But okay,
but questions, Okay, let me keep reading. So what actually happened?
Question mark? No one knows for certain. The favorite theory
of locals in the area is that the meat from
the sky was quite literally meat. They think vultures flying
overhead must have disgorged their stomachs all at once to
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cause the chunks of meat to shower down. They had
probably previously chowed down on an animal carcass hopefully, and
missus Couch was just incredibly unlucky that night. I've lived
in Kentucky for more than half my life now, and
I love my weird and wonderful state. Hoping to see
you come through here again if the world stops ending.
Thanks for keeping me sane, normalizing my true crime obsession,
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and just generally being the best SSDGM And watch for
meat showers.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Kayla, Kayla, I need to know if you're going to
say a meat shower. In my mind, that means meat
is going from as far as the I can see
to the right, yea, as far as the I can
see the left, back and forward. So if it's vultures
throwing up, yeah, did it just did it come down
within like a ten foot radius or personally?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And then that's it? Who knows? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Because yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Right, Because then that I there's so many theories you
could start inventing about what that be from. But I
imagined that it was like when you talked about the
other one, that it's like rain but other stuff. Yeah,
like rain goes everywhere, it doesn't just know.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I think it was just the meat. Can someone also
like a biology major, tell us if fucking horse meat
and human infant meat are at all similar, why back
in the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
They would have confused the two. I have to say that.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I bet you this scientist that theorized that was like this,
the chances are this looks a lot like horse lung.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
To me, what if it was a baby? A baby?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
And then then then the person that they worked with
is like still writing it down or he's.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Like no, no, no, no, don't you know anything.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I say, he's thinking it and accidentally writing it at
the same time, you know when you yeah, that's got to.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Be like he's like, he's writing what it probably is right,
then he accidentally wrote what he hopes it's not right?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
What was that best case scenario? And the worst case scenario.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Best case scenario? And then when he will quit is
when it comes back us.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
But if this ever happens again and it's human infant
I'm out.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I just need to know the range. I need to
know the what buy what did this fall in?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah? Send us your fucking stories please, They're so fun.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
They're so fun.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I had so many good ones. To choose from. You
can send them to my favorite murder at gmail. There's
a place on the website to send them, and the
fan cult as well.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
We love them and come and be a part of things.
Listen and then get just find one doun that you
can relate to your own life and that like many
people did on this episode, and then go, I finally
have a reason to write in and write it in.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
That's right. Maybe Stephen leave in the conversation about the jukebox,
so maybe people will write in about random jukebox stuff.
Honked a jukeboxes.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
There are jukebox didn't work because they opened up the
back and there was horse lungs inside.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Come on, don't make me do all the work. You
do the work.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You get your horse long story together, and also you
stay sex and don't get murdered.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
God by bye. Yeah Elvis, you want to cook e
Hello, Hello, and welcome. My favorite murder the Mini. So
it's tiny and mini, it's real short.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We're just gonna keep you for a couple of minutes.
We've got some emails from other people to read to you.
If you just hang out for five twenty minutes, Yeah,
it would be great.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Got a PowerPoint presentation to go with it. Yeah, it'll
be quick and easy.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
There's also gonna be sound effects.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We'll have lunch catered in. It'll be great. I'm gonna
go first.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You got it?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You want to go first? Ahead?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Okay, Hey, I'm FM FAM. I know you hate malarkey,
so I'll get straight to the story.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
From Joe Biden's writing to U, Joe Dad, I.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Could see your dad larky.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh no, Jim No, no malarkey.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
He would use a circuitstically, but no, he would say bullshit.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Make it last four minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
My dad owns his own business, a solid waste consulting
and engineering consulting company. I actually work for him as
his marketing director. And then in parentheses YEA for family businesses,
question mark, question mark, exclamation point, exclamation point, close, parentheses
period debbie promo code murder. Because he's an expert on landfills.
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I know right. He had been called in on many
criminal and civil cases over the years, most often because
a landfill employee or customer is killed. But sometimes he
gets called in on a murder trial where evidence or
bodies have been found in a landfill, and this one
I'm about to tell you is both riveting and heartbreaking.
In two thousand and one, Michael Blagg came home from
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work to find his wife, Jennifer, and six year old
daughter Abby missing.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And a blood soaked master bed.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
He called the police, but eventually he was arrested, charged,
and found guilty of murdering his wife. Her body was
found in a local landfill, which is why my dad
was brought in. One of the key pieces of evidence
was material from his workplace that was found in proximity
to his wife's body. However, my dad was for the
defense and argued that the evidence did not indicate that
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her body and the pamphlets from his work could have
come in on the same load. Regardless, Michael Blagg was
imprisoned and a second trial just a couple of years
ago found him guilty. The evidenced against him seems pretty
kun dried until you consider some of the other evidence,
most of which was not allowed to be discussed during
either trial. One shortly after Abby the daughter disappeared, a
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man was pulled over for a traffic stop in a
nearby state. He had a little girl in his car
and some sort of incriminating evidence I think the mom's
driver's license or something that linked him to the family.
It wasn't Michael's car. He had already been arrested, and
another suspect only identified as mister B was identified but
never charged, had confessed to murdering other little girls and
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had a list with both Jennifer Blagg, the mom, and
Abby Blag the little girl, named on it. Many people
think that Abby was kidnapped and trafficked while her mother
was murdered because she got in the way.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I wonder if.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Michael did not murder his wife and someone kidnapped his
little girl and he has been sitting in prison all
of these years. Of course, maybe he did murder them,
and that's awful too. Either way, As a parent to
two young children, this case is heartbreaking. I'm always proud
that my dad played a role in trying to get
to the truth. You guys are amazing and I so
appreciate your honesty and sense of humor. Thank you for
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all your hard work.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Much love, Sarah, Wow, I don't think you did.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean, that's the thing, is that idea that you
could It would be impossible to link evidence like that
at a dumps.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, it's pure chaos.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's just like, imagine all the things that are at
the dumps and if they flew over and landed a body,
you can interpret it a thousand ways.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Like I wonder how many different people could be could
be connected to that just based on the trash that
happens to be there. And then I wonder what happened
to make it so that that other evidence wasn't allowed in.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Court because it kicked out.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That might have made a really huge difference, But who
the fuck not.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
But maybe there was a reason where it was I
don't know. But at the same time, it's like, why
if he were the murderer, why would he allow flyers
from his work to be anywhere near It's not like
that's almost suggesting that he somehow it all got thrown
out with garbage or something that Like, then.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's like he had been at the dump. That would
be the proof somehow but why would he put his
own whatever, We're gonna solve it right now.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I mean, this is what I feel like.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
This is this horrible and tragic case and situation is
kind of what people who get hooked on true crime.
It's this is a perfect example because you could sit
the and like theorize in your armchair quarterback way for
so long about it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's just like what happened and every little element and why? Yeah? Crazy, yeah,
wow yeah, tragic. Okay, this one has maybe my favorite opening.
It just says pleasantries about a year ago. When my
boss learned I was going to your show and what
it was about. He casually asked, did I tell you
about the time I almost bought a murder saw? No,
(05:25):
I replied, Well, strap in, because I'm going to break
it down for the sake of time. Back in two
thousand and nine, a lady named Patricia Kimmey of Horton,
Kansas was abducted from her home. After days of searching
and collecting evidence, the police believed she had been taken
by force and might be deceased. Flash forward a few
months to when the police officially detained Patricia's killer, Roger Hollister,
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because he tried to kill himself and his wife in
a head on collision after police named him as a
prime suspect. Whoa let me just say this motherfucker must
have never seen a single true crime show because of
how sloppy he was with everything. Anyway. This was followed
up by his wife, Rebecca, being salty as shit that
her husband tried to kill them both and proceeded to
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tell the police what she knew, including taking police to
the gravesite. Oh shit, Rebecca, So what led to the slang?
Patricia's ex husband, who owned a sawmill that Roger frequented,
contracted a hit for seventy thousand dollars because he was
angry about the division of property in the two thousand
and eight divorce. Note that this guy was also an idiot,
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because once the division of property was issued, he told
anyone who would listen would listen, including various family members,
that he wanted her dead and was willing to pay
to have it taken care of.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Not smart.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It was at this point in the story when.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
He followed I want not only do I want her dead, Wait,
come back, I know that's creepy.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I also will pay any price.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I'll pay for it, and then a weekly I mean,
if she's gone, is yea weird?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I'll circle back with you to really underline all the
ways that you can look out for me being guilty
in the future.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
It was at this point in the story that when
my boss said that during the months when Patricia was missing,
he met with the ex husband to buy a used
saw from the sawmill.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
He says that when he met with the guy, he
was being a bit weird about everything and was willing
to sell the overly clean saw for a lot cheaper
than what it was worth. With the situation not feeling right,
my boss passed on the purchase. Turns out he made
the right decision, because when Patricia's remains were found, it
was documented that quote, a forensic pathologist examined the vertebral
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body and the few ribs that were still attached and
noticed a line of deconstruction where the ribs appeared to
have been cut in a straight line.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
In the end, the ex hus been settled in civil
court in a wrongful death suit. What the fuck. Roger
died in prison in twenty thirteen, and his wife, Rebecca
was officially charged with aiding a felon. I'm just glad
that Patricia got justice and that my boss didn't buy
a murder saw whitney.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
H Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, that would be a very creepy position to be
the person that answers the craigs List ad. And this
second you roll up, your every hair on your body
stands up and you're like, get out of this saw mill.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I feel like, let's not buy saws secondhand, guys.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Let's stay out of saw mills in general.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I don't think unless you are run a lathe or
like a very talented logger, there's no don't be over there.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Go to your local hardware store, pick up a you know,
something cute and kitchy and a new, brand new saw that's.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Never been It has to be new.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, whether it's a saw, a hatchet, anything, any Stop
being such a cheap bastard. You're getting yourself into trouble.
I'm not reading the subject line of this. It gives
it all away. Okay, let's just get right to it.
My hometown is Paradise, California. You know, the one that
was completely destroyed by the campfire two years ago. Yeah,
my family survived by the skin of their teeth and
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images and articles from the event still send me reeling
into anxiety and panic. I bet anyway, that's this story.
In our middle school, there was a program for eighth
graders called Northwest eight. Literally because the four portable classrooms
the program used were on the northwest corner of the campus.
About forty five students were sectioned off from the rest
of the school. We attended separate classes, and we had
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just three teachers between us. The real appeal to the
Northwest eight was that the teachers used alternative learning methods
such as simulated history and trips to our local wildlife
areas to learn about the land and California history.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
This is some California Montessori shiit like going way back.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
We went to San Juan Capistrano to learn about the
swallows that came in every fucking whenever. The shit, oh
this is so, this is so California.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It's amazing every fucking whenever. It all went straight into
little George's brain.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, I was piking of on what they were laying down.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, this reminds me of like when missus Cho Williger
would come visit our school and she would bring like
this is a living abalony or whatever, and you'd be like,
learned about the coasts, the coast land or whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yep, get into it, immerse.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It, hold on, I'm let me close my door. Really
quicks the home up.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
We bought a jukebox from the nineties, from the sixties.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
You guys did.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Vince's birthday and it's fully It's from a record store
that refurbish's old juke boxes. So they filled it out
like two hundred and fifty records, old records.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That's badass.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
We had to apply to be in this program, and
it was competitive. We usually looked forward to simulation days
where they remade our little world of classrooms into sets
for whatever we were learning about from Ellis Island. We
were checked for knits and segregated by our home preassigned
countries to the Industrial Revolution. They had us assembling little
paper hats in a hot, loud classroom under cramped conditions
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to a slave ship. I'm not even going to describe
this one because yikes.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
One of the simulations they did was Dot Dot Dot
the nineteen seventy six chow Chill, a bus kidnapping that
Karen covered in the last episode. That's right, our three
teachers dressed as kidnappers with fake guns, vandanas and lots
of yelling. They shuffled us into the back of a
pitch dark U haul parked on school property, and we
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were given instructions to figure a way out. I think
I blocked I think I blocked a lot of this
stuff out, But listening to Carrie tell the actual story
that inspired my teachers to do this was disturbing. Looking back,
I'm really not sure what the lesson was. Something about
teaching us survival and strength maybe, but the lesson I
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learned was don't trust adults, even your teachers, because what
the fuck, I might add this was in nineteen ninety seven,
so not that long ago.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That is still teaching skills then they've been teaching. Yeah,
the eighties, they.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Pushed that eighty shit right up to ninety seven. Way
thanks for everything. The years upon years of listening to
you both has helped me through some rough times see
first paragraph. And recently I completed listening to every episode
from the beginning. It took me eighteen months and approximately
three hundred and fifty miles of morning walks. I love
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that stay sexy and don't let your teacher fake kidnap
you Rachel t good one that is okay, yeah, what
I mean I kind of have to say, but I know.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's wrong, but I love the idea of It's like,
what are you going to do now?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
This crazy shit has happened to you. What are you
going to do now? It's very unfair for maybe the
more delicate people in that class that to be like,
you know what I'm gonna do, I'm going to pee
in the corner and then I'm going to be known
as the peing in the corner.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Correct for the rest of my career.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm I'm going to obsess about the fact that this
happened to children my age every night and not be
able to fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Why would you dah me? What were they thinking? I
want a teacher? And also just like lawsuits and parents,
I still.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Remember this fucking teacher I had in third grade wanted
to show us what sexism was like, you know, in
the old time when like women couldn't work, I mean
in the workforce, And so she separated the boys and
girls and let the boys do whatever they want and
made the girls like turn in homework and then didn't
switch it and let the boy have to make the
boy like she basically did sexism. She underlined, sex is
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still mad about it and the boys were such dicks,
like hah, and they were playing cards and stuff and
we were all like, this isn't fucking fair, and she's like, right,
it's not there.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
But also, how about the lesson be reversing the people
who actually, we already know what sexism is like already
like this, the boys are already in charge ingrained already.
What was how about you flip it, flip that script
and let the people learn.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Who oh wow, I will an opportunity missed. But Rachel
not you. Thank you for sharing your trauma and.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
The things your weird teachers did. So thank you for sharing.
We love to know all about it.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yes, okay, this one's called a Mexican Revolution family murder.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Great.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Hi, y'all just listened to the latest episode, and when
Georgia talked about the Mexican Revolution, I decided to send
you my family murder that happened during the Mexican Revolution.
I came across the story when I was helping my
abuelo sort some belongings and found a letter from the
Mexican embassy and since I can't speak or read Spanish.
My greatest shame, my azuela filled me in. In nineteen twelve,
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my great great grandfather and great great grandmother came to
America seeking asylum, which they were granted, and they built
a life for themselves on a small farm on the
Texas Mexico border. One day, a few years later, my
great great grandfather was out working the farm when American
soldiers rode up on their horses and shot him dead
the fair reason he was Mexican and looked like a rebel.
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This left my great grant grandmother alone to raise eight children. Ooh.
She was pissed, and rightfully so. She fought in court
against the United States and was awarded two thousand dollars
for the death around twenty eight thousand today. She took
that money and bought a huge plot of land and
built a home, which is the same home my abuelo
would grow up in the same home. I spent my
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childhood summurders at visiting my mama great grandma until she passed.
My Buela still owns the home and rents it out
to locals and other family members who still live there.
We used to visit their old town multiple times a
year less so now that my Builo's Parkinson's is advancing,
But it's a special place to my family. It's our
American roots grown from a horrible injustice. This story reminds
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me that not that much has changed, so we must
keep fighting. As my abuela has gotten sicker. Every time
I visit, I worry it could be the last time.
And every time he tells me to never be ashamed
of who I am and where I come from. He
spent right, he spent his whole life feeling ashamed of
who he was because of some racist bastards. And he
told me quote watching you and your sisters grow into
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successful and dependent women and taught me that there is
nothing to be ashamed of. We are strong and beautiful
people and we should be proud of that. Thanks for
all y'all do. Your podcast brings me so much joy
in times of real darkness. Love y'all.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
S that's so cool.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Also, a grandfather that's telling his granddaughter he's learning from that,
totally what a badass like awesome thoughtful man.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's so cool. It is.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's really a beautiful story.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Thank you for sharing that s and I love.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
How much you use the word y'all. That's just my
one of my favorite words. True and not the I
sound sarcastic, I'm not. I remember the one time it
was textans. Remember in the beginning when we were we
were all met, like someone tweeted. I tweeted something and
used the word y'all, and you text us. I'm like, Steven,
why did you use the word y'all? We don't talk
like that. It's like, actually that was me. I like
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it because it's gender neutral. I don't know, like it's
just because it's so not something I would normally say.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Okay, here's my last one. Hey, ladies, I love the podcast,
even if it sometimes freaks my roommate out. Yeah, that's right.
Stand by us.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
This story is about my parents' spooky house, and they're
very good dog all caps.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Good dogs, Georgie and Frankie.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Look at it. How quiet sleep them.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
They know what they have to do to stay in
the room.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, that's right. It's just like me when I used
to ask to be in my cousin Cheryl's room. You
just have to zip the lip and you can stay
in there for as long as you want.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Simple really okay.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
My parents' house was built in nineteen fifteen, and they
bought it just before I was born in the eighties.
It's a pretty normal house, two stories, three bedrooms, a
big yard, and an unfinished basement. We've never finished the
basement as it's prone to flooding, and we've always just
used it as a general sort of laundry workshop, et
cetera space. It's just a little bit creepy the way
that all unfinished basements are, but never freaked me out
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too much as a kid. When you grow up in
an old house, creepy basements and spooky noises at night,
like noisy radiators are just part of life anyway. Around
two thousand and eight, my parents adopted a new dog,
a black lab mix named Clark. Ah mister Clark, I
don't know I missed that name, and when I was
reading this, that's the funniest our childhood dog had passed away.
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My sister and I were long grown and gone, and
my parents wanted a furry friend around the house. Clark
was six months old and incredibly sweet. He'd been rescued
from a bad situation and for years he hated to
be alone and always wanted to be in the same
room as someone that's so frank. He was pretty well
trained by his foster family, housebroken and almost never barked.
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He was and still is to this day. He's doing
great for his age, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
The perfect dog.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
A day or two after he came home with my parents,
my dad was at work and my mom went downstairs
to do laundry. The basement is accessed through a door
with a little closet area on one side in the kitchen,
and it has creaky wooden steps going down to it.
Clark predictably followed my mom down these stairs into the
basement and immediately freaked out. It was the first time
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he'd been in the basement and something terrified him. He
looked around and sniffed the air a little bit, then
let out one sharp bark, the first time my mom
ever heard him bark. He backed up, his hackles were raised,
tail between his legs.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He was so scared he peed.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
On the floor a little bit, and then he raced
back upstairs to the kitchen.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
My mom was at a loss for what had scared
him so much, but obviously something did.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
She went upstairs and comforted him, but he refused to
go back down in the basement. He refused to even
stepped through the door leading to the stairs to the basement.
There's a door to the driveway halfway down the basement stairs,
and that's the only door where you don't get a
face full of flying lab if you enter.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
We've tried everything favorite.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Dog treats, people, food, toys, but nothing in twelve years
has convinced this incredibly social dog to even pass through
that doorway.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
WHOA.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Once when I was visiting, something happened to cause a
small hole in the kitchen floor, and Clark and go
near it until it was covered up. None of us
have ever experienced anything too creepy in the basement, but
obviously something terrifying is down there, and Clark's the only.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
One with the good sense to avoid it.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Stay sexy and don't get murdered in a creepy basement
and then scare a sweet.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Dog, Oh my god, what's down there?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They don't know it up dig I mean something's down there.
That dog knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Or it's like I believe, I think it like it
just for me, It like makes me believe in like
bad vibes more, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Sure, but if it's unfinished, there could be like one
corner of the basement where there's.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Just a body.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It's just like you know in a cartoon when you
scan down underground and you see.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
The skeletons and stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
There could just be a skeleton just right on the
other side of one of their unfinished dirt walls.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Or he's just a design snob and is like, finish
this fucking basement already.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
It's garbage. I don't want to look at it. I
will pee on it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's not here, it's disdained existing that the one thing
he stuck up about is unfinished flooring. In shit, I'm Clark,
finish it. Okay. This my last one's called Kentucky meat Shower.
Oh yeah, Karen, Georgia, Stephen Vince and all the pets,
all Vince. I was listening to the recent minnesot where
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you shared about the jell O rain shower in Washington,
and finally I have a hometown to send you the
story of the Kentucky meat Shower. Here we go back
in March eighteen seventy six, on a clear night in
rankin Kentucky. Missus Couch. I never could find her name
only her husband's Uugh was outside minding her own business,
(21:40):
doing farmy type things on her farm when all of
a sudden, chunks of meat started falling from the sky.
The chunks were as small as a golf ball up
to as big as a grapefruit. I'm sure this poor
woman was freaking the fuck out. She was interviewed saying
the shower of flesh must have been a sign from God. Yeah. Probably.
(22:00):
The next day, si sign, I don't know. Go inside,
stay inside, finish your basement. Go inside and finasure basis.
The next day, some random dudes came to the farm
to investigate and said the mystery meat had the distinct
taste of quote rancid mutton, which means they ate tast
which means.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
They taste of it. It's like coton.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It's like the cocaine rubbing it on your tooth, but
the meek shower taste.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It just you just dab it under your tongue each side.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
It says no, thank you. A scientist later studied a
preserved sample and said it had to be some form
of no stick or cyanobacteria that can fall when it rains,
much like the story in the Last Hometown which I
pronounced totally wrong. By the way, in the last I
got so many tweets, but I don't care. Oh whatever,
that's called sciencey pronunciations that I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Oh, are you not a scientist? Do you know I'm
not a scientist? Wait no, because you've really been acting
like one this time.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, and it's on my resume that I gave you
this podcast.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Science smoking fencing.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
The only the problem with that theory is that it
was completely It was a completely clear night, so it
couldn't have been part of the rain. To add further
confusion to the story, a later analysis of the tissue
discovered it to be either lung tissue from a horse
or all caps a human infant. And then it says,
apparently those tissues were indistinguishable back then. Weird, So it's
(23:22):
probably horse meat, a camp a human infant. But okay,
but questions, Okay, let me keep reading. So what actually happened?
Question mark? No one knows for certain. The favorite theory
of locals in the area is that the meat from
the sky was quite literally meat. They think vultures flying
overhead must have disgorged their stomachs all at once to
(23:44):
cause the chunks of meat to shower down. They had
probably previously chowed down on an animal carcass hopefully, and
missus Couch was just incredibly unlucky that night. I've lived
in Kentucky for more than half my life now, and
I love my weird and wonderful state. Hoping to see
you come through here again if the world stops ending.
Thanks for keeping me sane, normalizing my true crime obsession,
(24:05):
and just generally being the best SSDGM And watch for
meat showers.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Kayla, Kayla, I need to know if you're going to
say a meat shower. In my mind, that means meat
is going from as far as the I can see
to the right, yea, as far as the I can
see the left, back and forward. So if it's vultures
throwing up, yeah, did it just did it come down
within like a ten foot radius or personally?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And then that's it? Who knows? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Because yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Right, Because then that I there's so many theories you
could start inventing about what that be from. But I
imagined that it was like when you talked about the
other one, that it's like rain but other stuff. Yeah,
like rain goes everywhere, it doesn't just know.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I think it was just the meat. Can someone also
like a biology major, tell us if fucking horse meat
and human infant meat are at all similar, why back
in the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
They would have confused the two. I have to say that.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I bet you this scientist that theorized that was like this,
the chances are this looks a lot like horse lung.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
To me, what if it was a baby? A baby?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
And then then then the person that they worked with
is like still writing it down or he's.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Like no, no, no, no, don't you know anything.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I say, he's thinking it and accidentally writing it at
the same time, you know when you yeah, that's got to.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Be like he's like, he's writing what it probably is right,
then he accidentally wrote what he hopes it's not right?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
What was that best case scenario? And the worst case scenario.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Best case scenario? And then when he will quit is
when it comes back us.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
But if this ever happens again and it's human infant
I'm out.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I just need to know the range. I need to
know the what buy what did this fall in?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah? Send us your fucking stories please, They're so fun.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
They're so fun.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I had so many good ones. To choose from. You
can send them to my favorite murder at gmail. There's
a place on the website to send them, and the
fan cult as well.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
We love them and come and be a part of things.
Listen and then get just find one doun that you
can relate to your own life and that like many
people did on this episode, and then go, I finally
have a reason to write in and write it in.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
That's right. Maybe Stephen leave in the conversation about the jukebox,
so maybe people will write in about random jukebox stuff.
Honked a jukeboxes.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
There are jukebox didn't work because they opened up the
back and there was horse lungs inside.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Come on, don't make me do all the work. You
do the work.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You get your horse long story together, and also you
stay sex and don't get murdered.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
God by bye. Yeah Elvis, you want to cook e
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