April 26, 2021 • 27 mins
This week’s hometowns include a mace story and a pen-based murder.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
And welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So'm my favorite murder the Miniso tiny.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's cute, you love it, you sent it to us,
we're reading it.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Do you want me to go first? Do you have
a solid ending? Sure? Okay?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Always good.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's got to end on it high sweet, kind funny note, right, yeah,
something okay. My father, the sixteen year old brothel rum runner. Hey,
y'all you asked for crazy job stories, and well I
don't have one. My dad's high school job really takes
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the cake. My dad grew up in New Orleans. When
he was sixteen years old, he got a job with
his next door neighbor slash best friend's family. This family
owned a few bars on Bourbon Street and hired my
dad to work at one of the bars. He and
his best friend would go to work from six pm
to two am every weekend during the summers and most
of the school year. Two. This was Bourbon Street in
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the nineteen sixties, just as raucus, but with a lot
fewer rules. Exactly the place you want to send a
sixteen year old to work.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
My dad rules no, let's move.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Of age at that point. Probably my dad describes the
job as quote, we'd bring beer to the front and
gloss to the back and do it all over again.
But this wasn't fully the truth. Soon into their employment,
the bar owner asked them to start running a nightly
errand each night, around nine pm, they would bring a
case of alcohol to Miss Wallace at her quote home.
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They were told to quote wait there until Miss Wallace
pays you, and only except cash. My dad and his
friend knew exactly who Miss Wallace was, and we're rightfully
excited to do this delivery, especially again as sixteen year
old boys. Miss Wallace was none other than Norma Wallace,
the last Madam of New Orleans, whoa brothel owner extraordinaire,
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And then it says she's credited with hosting the first
strip teases on Bourbon Street and helping the FBI with
capturing mobsters whoa girl. Each evening they would gather up
the liquor, drive over to her brothel and were let
in by the bouncer to wait in the hall. Still
sitting there, they saw all the clientele coming and going.
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Police chiefs, prominent businessmen, politicians, even the mayor. Allegedly, on
many occasions, every night, Miss Wallace would come downstairs with
a wad of cash, and they'd be on their way.
They continued this job for nearly three years. Wow. Later
in life, Miss Wallace tried to revamp her reputation by
opening a fancy restaurant on an old plantation. My grandma
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mother chose to go there for her birthday. Shortly after
it opened, Miss Wallace was making the rounds greeting guests,
and when she saw my dad came over and warmly
welcomed him by name. As she left, my grandmother, who
didn't recognize Miss Wallace, asked, how do you know that woman?
My dad replied, I've eaten here before. Just say sexy Melanie.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Immediately you're telling me the story, but I'm picturing The
Simpsons where Bart goes to the cadow.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You remember that one?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Or just like, wait a second, I've heard this story before.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Is it Miss Provoca? Now do you think you do?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You think the boss said only except cash, like do
not exchange sex for this liquor.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Oh, or it's like don't trust this lady on credit,
even though she probably had all the cash in the
freaking world, but maybe has stiffed someone before.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I think it was like, don't let her say boys,
would you like to go upstairs instead of getting paid.
That's what I was thinking. Nice one love a historical
brothel story. Okay, the subject line gives us so I
so I'll just read it to you.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Hi, MFM crew and pets.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Listening to your episode two seventy about Pam Hubb, Karen's
remark about what could be less effective for a stabbing
than a ballpoint pen reminded me of my hometown murder
known in the Netherlands as the ballpoint murder or the
ballpoint affair. In my hometown of Leiden in nineteen ninety one,
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a fifty three year old woman Mary de mayor this
person is writing in pronounced blank and they're doing it perfectly.
It seems like I know how to pronounce these names,
but they are writing it in for me.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So, a fifty three year old woman named Mary de
Mayer was found dead by her nineteen year old son,
and autopsy showed that you she died because a big
ballpoint pen was wedged into her brain that apparently entered trigger.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Warning via her eye socket knockout. It had gotten so
far inside.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Her brain that it was not visible from the outside
and it only showed up on the X ray oh yeah.
After a few years of fruitless police investigation, the authorities
arrest her nineteen year old son for murder because his
therapist came forward to say that he had told her
he shot his mother with a crossbow and then in parentheses,
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loaded with the big pen. Later, a caretaker from his
school also comes forward to say he overheard the son
and another discuss quote the perfect murder. After a court
case in nineteen ninety five, the son is convicted to
a sentence of twelve years for murder. His lawyers claim
the cause of death could have been an unfortunate fall
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where Mary fell on top of the pen, which lodged
into her brain. After the conviction, an ophthalmologists independently tests
the crossbow theory but concludes a small crossbow couldn't have
been used because the pen would have fractured while it
was found in the victim's skull. Intact, another ophthalmologist carried
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out the same test and found a small crossbow could
not shoot a big pen into a human skull without
being fractured, and then in parentheses, he did this using
actual human heads from cadavers. That's horrifying. Yeah, Okay, so
after these findings. The son, who's now in his twenties,
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was provisionally released. More research and testing is done, which
experts say proves a fall could have resulted in the
injury scene. Apparently there was a similar case where somebody
fell and impaled themselves on a pencil, which also completely
disappeared into the skull without breaking. And then in parentheses,
I have a head just thinking about it. I'm like
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plucking on my oyebrows right now.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's very this one is.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I guess that the trigger warning should have come away
at the beginning because this is such a specific, like
I things are so specifically terrifying and awful. On appeal
in nineteen ninety six, The Sun was acquitted because of
lack of evidence. When the therapist was called to the
stand again on appeal, she claimed doctor patient privilege. Not
(07:26):
with that, yeah, not before all. This is to say,
in some cases, ballpoint pens can be deadly. Thanks for
your great podcast. Your style partly inspired my own very
niche war crimes and international justice podcasts called asymmetrical Haircuts.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yes yes, yes, truth and naming. I love it? Are
you okay? What the fuck? That is so funny? It's
so funny.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's the funniest name.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Sorry, it's you know, you know, sometimes I skim these
so that they can be a surprise to me too,
and that part really surprised me. Stay sexy and don't
follow your ballpoint pen, Stephanie.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I mean, that is horrific in so many ways.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And it's also this thing that I think comes up
in true crime stories a lot, and I think maybe
no now more because of modern forensics and stuff. Is
this thing of like of look into the science of
what happened to make sure that someone isn't going to
jail because like in the worst case scenario, which is
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their mother died in a terrible acco totally accident and
now they're going to jail.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I have a Yeah, that's that's totally crazy. Wow, horrifying. Yeah,
very I have something.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
It's also remind.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You what.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I have so many thoughts on that, and I can't
keep them straight because I'm just so blown away because.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It's so creepy.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well, can I tell you My thought is that this
reminds me in third grade. I'll never forget this because
I witnessed it with my own eyes on the playground.
It was after school and for some reason. Two of
I'd say, the most popular boys at Wilson's school, Jimmy
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Martin and Billy Bertolucci. Oh sure, We're standing on the
playground throwing a pencil back and forth at each other.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And like arcing it up into the air.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
And yes, and they were pretty far away from each other.
They kept backing up and throwing it. It was like
it was a seventies like ye, it was like a
psa of like, here's what you do not do except
for stuff like this is what happens in the seventies.
And of course, and now I can't remember. In my mind,
(10:01):
I remember that it happened to Billy Berlucci.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
One of them threw it.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Now the other one went to catch it, turned his
head and the pencil went into their ears.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And the whole thing. I just remember standing. I saw
the whole thing happen.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It was just like in my mind, I kind of
was just like, yeah, that was probably gonna happen, Like, yeah,
you're throwing a pencil at each other.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Can we get listeners? Right in the dumbest thing you
witnessed as a child of other children doing your own
children anonymously. You know you don't have out your kid,
but just those things are names. Well what did you
think was going to happen?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I have two stories of stitch getting stitches in my
face of like, yeah, what did you think was going
to happen as a little kid? Well, you got stitches
in your face twice as a little kid?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
What?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yes? Where one in my eyebrow? I have a little
scar right here and one in my from billieve it
or not, the bottom of the kiddie pool at the
local pool.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Did you dive?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I didn't dive. I rolled into the pool. It was like,
this will be fine. I saw some quote teenagers doing
it through really like twelve rolling each other in and
then they left and I was like, ah, that looks cool.
Clunked my fucking chin bleeding into the water, which I
was always shark bait gross, and then had to be restrained.
I remember it to get stitches because I was losing
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my mind and my mom was holding my hand the
whole time. It was just like does it hurt so bad?
I mean, because it's like you're in a hospital with
someone coming at you with fucking sewing yancils, and yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And you're like, bitch, No, I don't care how much
my chin is bleeding.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I mean when I got my ears pierced, I wanted
them so bad, and I was like four. I begged
and I saw my watch my sister do it, and
the like pharmacy was where it was at. I got
one done and they went to do the other one
and I ran out screaming. It's like a four year old.
I was like, no, maybe I saw her do it.
They went to do it on me halfway through right approving,
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and then body piercing started happening, and I was fine
with it somehow. All right. That was next. Well, that
was okay, all right. This one's called I might be
on the No fly list. Hello at all. I'm listening
to your latest episode about Mace, and I thought i'd
like to share with you my own May story. In
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two thousand and six or so, I was fresh out
of college and moved to the mountains of Colorado to
have a year of fun. The year turned into eight,
but I don't regret a second of it. My story
starts with a typical day of work as a bellman
slash valet at a very large hotel in snow mass Village, Colorado,
asspen specifically well working. I was in the back. While working,
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I was in the back doing a quote key audit
of all the key valet keys, making sure they had tags,
were on the appropriate peg, were marked correctly, and so forth.
I came upon a set of keys with dozens of
chochkeys and began to look through them. I really appreciate
using the word and correct spelling of chochkeys, being from
a smallish city in Michigan and not really the most
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quote worldly man. I wasn't sure what the pink cylinder
dangling from the keys was or what it was for.
I looked it over and I cannot tell you what
I was thinking, but pressing the little handle seemed like
the next step in my evolutionary process. Soon, a spray
came flowing forth and my eyes began to water. I
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put the keys back upon the peg board and closed
the door behind me as I walked out of the
back office to get some fresh mountain air. Another eye story. Yeah.
As I stood in our valet circle, I noticed people
beginning to walk out of the double doors from our lobby.
I saw my services manager ushering people out, but I
was still oblivious to what was happening. You See, the
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funny thing about our back office in our valet area
was that the air handler for the entire lobby sat
in the corner. When I closed the door behind me,
I thought that was the end of the story. But
the air handler had started to suck in all the
fumes and was literally airing my mistake to the entire space.
This is the post office fart story all over again. Now.
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I'm usually a very honest man, but once the fire
department showed up, I wasn't about to say anything. Speculation abound,
terrorist attack, gaslak, biological weapon. Nope, just a dumbass twenty
three year old who had never seen a can of mace.
Stay sexy, and don't press the button just because it's
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a button.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Corey, Corey, that is some of the best advice that
you can give a person. Don't press buttons, just.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Randomly pressed buttons because there's a Button't do it. No,
don't do it. No, it's only trouble unless you're in
an elevator. And even then, Yeah, careful, only the numbers.
That's got to be a sure anywhere we wait.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
If he mazed himself a little, wouldn't like, wasn't he
the one standing there with bright red eyes?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
But everyone?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Oh true, he blended in perfectly.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah that who knows what's happening around here?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Terrorist attack? It must be got a terrorist attack and
a small ski down.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Okay this one? Okay, Oh, I won't read you this
subject line. Hi, Karen and Georgia.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I just want to start out by saying I love you,
I love the podcast, and I love the pets.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Thank you great start. My mom and I are huge fans.
I mom and she has been waiting for an interesting
murder to quote unquote suddenly occur, just to email it
to you both.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Please don't don't wish for that.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, we both listen. You can email.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
What you need to tell your mom is that she
can email about pretty much anything in the world.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
At this point, it doesn't have to be about Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Really, we both listened every Monday and Thursday, so it's
not convenient listening to gruesome murders on the way to
pulling up to my Christian middle school.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But I still love you both.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Middle school.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
This is a middle schooler or is it a person
who founded their own middle school?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh? My god, they.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Opened their own I own a middle school and make
a ton of money.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Oh it's Christian, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Any anyways, moving on, so Hotel Galvez. Hotel Galvez is
located in Galveston, Texas, sort of near the sea wall.
Oh now that I know that seawall down by the
sea wall, that wall, yeah, yeah, down there. I first
heard of this story from my mom, but I did
some extra research to make sure I wrote this correctly.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Good job.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Audra couldn't find her last name, was a twenty five
year old bride to be in the nineteen fifties. She
was engaged to a mariner who would often leave her
alone while he was outsailing. Whenever this mariner's ship was
due to port, Audre would go to room five oh one.
It has been said before that she would also rent
the room. She would choose to go to room five
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oh one because it was in particular proximity to the elevator,
which she would use to access the ladder. Audre would
climb the ladder to the rooftop and spend her time
there while her soon to be newly awed was away
at work. After a violent storm, Audre was informed her
fiance would not return because his ship was capsized overcome
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with fear, despair, and heartbreak, Audra hung herself on the
hotel's west turret to make matters worse. A couple of
days later, Audre's fiance returned. He had somehow survived the
storm and was eager to see his beautiful wife.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
While waiting for his soon to be bride, he was
told that she had previously just died by suicide.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Years later.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Guests visiting the hotels say they can feel a cold
chill overcome them. Others report doors slamming shut, and some
have even reported lights flickering. There have been more reports,
such as television's turning off with no explanation, and like
I said, there was more, but I'm too lazy to.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Tie the rest of the right place, sweetheart.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Well hello, So that was the story of the infamous
Hotel Galvez. So while it wasn't a vicious murder, I
still thought it was a pretty interesting story. Thank you
for taking the time to make the best podcast I've heard,
and thank you for being so close to your fans.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Oh, I hope.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You found this somewhat interesting, And I really hope you
guys haven't read the story before, because sometimes my mom
listens without me.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Oh, my god, rude, how that is unforgivable a child
of merit?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Oh dare thank you both so much again three exclamation points.
Much love, Jen in parentheses, my mom and Julia in parentheses.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Me, thank you Julia. Well, that was beautifully written.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
And I love that story because it's like a ghost
origin story.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Oh so good, so sad. Here's one. That's there's my
last one. And they said murder would be the worst outcome.
It's the name of it. And they said murder would
be the worst outcome. That's how I was supposed to
say it. Yeah, starts Karen and Georgia. I apparently live
under a rock and that rock is called Central Illinois.
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This one's really sweet. Actually, I love this one. It
took to being held prisoner in my own home aka quarantine,
to start quarantining, to start listening to your podcast, and
now I am obsessed, it says, but not in a
creepy obsessed kind of way. Small backstory on myself. I
have grown up in and still live in a small
and very conservative hometown. I have known since childhood that
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I wasn't attracted to men, But coming to terms with
knowing you or gay in any incredibly religious town also
comes along with feelings and fear and disappointment in yourself.
I myself have always believed in and still believe in
a higher power, but it took this experience to come
along for me to be like, Okay, those who love
them most in this world need to know the real you.
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And it reminds me of Fortune Fumestre's beautiful stand up special.
What's it called? Sweet and Salty? Sweet and salty and
just her journey and story. I'm so inspiring and I
think everyone needs to listen to it. Don't read it.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
As I was going to say, nice plugged I she'll enjoy.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That I love her. After many failed attempts at dating men,
because the younger me had truly hoped that my feelings
would change, I decided to try one last ditch effort
and be matched with someone online. We're talking early two
thousands e harmony situation. I know I needed to be
so incredibly careful because we've all seen online horror stories,
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but I was as honest as I could be with
my personal likes and dislikes end goal to maybe have
a successful relationship with a man. After submitting my profile,
I stepped away from my computer for the rest of
the evening. I went to bed that night praying that
if the heterosexual relationship was truly what God wanted for me,
let this last effort decision be the answer to my prayers.
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The following morning, I was excited and nervous because I
had received an overnight match that shared ninety eight percent
of interest with me. In eager anticipation, I clicked on
this gentleman's profile, and although his picture wasn't a close up,
he looked oddly familiar. I know, at this point in
the story most murdering age, hoping that would be some
well known psycho, but alas it was a nice young
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man who happens to be in quite a few of
my family photos my cousin Matt. Turns out we do
have quite a few things in common, the most important
being a set of grandparents. It was at that point
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that I knew that God, or maybe my own inner
big girl voice, was finally telling me that I am
enough and to move on. Fast forward to ten years later,
and although I'm quite I'm still quite closeted, I am
out to those I truly want to know, and finally
feel a sense of peace within myself. I even took
motherhood in my own hands with the help of a donor.
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I have the world's coolest eight year old son. I
made sure you made sure to use a cryobank from
incredibly far away, because I couldn't risk my child's donor
being a cousin as well. Thank you, ladies for the
crazy stories and endless laughter. Your big hearts and acceptance
of others are what this world needs more of. Stay sexy,
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and don't let online dating sites set you up with
family members.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Cory, Cory, what a beautiful story to share. That's so,
you know, personal, but them also hilarious. I mean, like
if that you would be, that's like proof God exists totally.
It's just like you you just got what you prayed for,
a sign. Your cousin's showing up.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, it's like, here's the best you can hope for, Corey,
and then so what are you gonna And I just
love that as your sign. Yeah, God is yours too,
Higher Power is yours too, and that you don't let
anyone fucking take it away from you. There's no the
God's rules are not your rules. It's it's not God's
rules either, it's man made also.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I it's just so I wonder if Corey is like older,
because I just feel like it's when people like you
Central Illinois, or you live in a small town, or
you live in an ultra conservative area or something like that,
you get served up this idea of what you have
to do based on what your family believes, what your
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you know, what school you go to or whatever, and
that idea that it's what's inside you, it's what you
know to be true, is what you So this last one,
the subject line is, so are we doing Saint Joseph statues?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Don't worries? Now?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Oh? Okay, hi all, I'm just going to start this
as if I've not written in a bunch of hometowns before.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That have not been read.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Bitter right off the bat, fucking so bitter.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yes, I absolutely support it. It says don't worry, no
hard feelings, bullshit. We read that first sentence.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
We know how you feel.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
My family doesn't have any good murder stories, apparently, but
we do have a Saint Joseph's statue story. Good, all good,
everything is accepted.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
My parents were trying to unload a real piece of
shit house. My parents are trying to unload a real
piece of shit house with foundation issues and groovy, bright
orange shag carpet in the early nineties.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah you were.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
The house was not selling, so devout Catholics that they were.
My parents decided to bury the old Saint Joseph's statue
and then in parentheses, I can't confirm if it was
glow in the dark, but I do know burying him
upside down is key. Okay, clothes parentheses, they set a
novena to Saint Joseph. Bonus fact they had both prayed
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this novena at the same time, not knowing the other
was also praying for a spouse.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh, I don't get it, but all.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Basically they they believe they met because they both prayed
to Saint Joseph to find a husband.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Dan dawaf c mean cute.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, well, we'll talk about that sentence structure later.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
You're mad at first, to the end of the novena,
they started Oh oh sorry, here's the rest of the story.
At the end of the novena, they started dating and
quickly were engaged. Well, just like their relationship, Saint Joe
pulled through because at the end of nine days a kooky,
almost unearthly lady showed up offering to buy the house
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in cash.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
My parents couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
But they were scheduled to move into our new house
in a couple days, and they didn't ask questions. They
kept in touch with their old neighbor, who told them
that the lady never moved in, but had turned it
into a bird and animal sanctuary.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Oh, dream life, what's up?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Was she an angel? Was she just a crazy lady?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
As far as our family concerned, she was both stay
sexy and pray to Saint Joseph.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So I was hoping for a whole rundown of her
wardrobe and her lawn care tricks and tips.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
She was just dressed like a bird.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
She was just.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I'm wearing her shirt. I have this like I have
a Blanche from Golden Girls colorful shirt on, and I
feel it's a grandma's shirt for sure. He probably came
with pants that matched, you know, with the last.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, because it has a sizeable collar, and so I'm
seeing some bell bottoms that went with that, the same material.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
So I get kindred spirits. Wow, that was great. Nice,
That was a great match. You guys are knocking it
out of the g D park.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah, thank you for your participage.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
If you want to hear one more from each of us,
go to the fan Cult. We're now reading fan Cult
only sent in Hometown's one extra every week and it's
called the Mini Mini that's right. And there's video, believe that.
And there's a forum, and there's all kinds of places
to just get extra content. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Don't you love content?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Content creators. That's what we are.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I have content creators.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
That's right, all right, Well, stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Goodbye, Elvis. Do you want a cookie
And welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So'm my favorite murder the Miniso tiny.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's cute, you love it, you sent it to us,
we're reading it.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Do you want me to go first? Do you have
a solid ending? Sure? Okay?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Always good.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's got to end on it high sweet, kind funny note, right, yeah,
something okay. My father, the sixteen year old brothel rum runner. Hey,
y'all you asked for crazy job stories, and well I
don't have one. My dad's high school job really takes
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the cake. My dad grew up in New Orleans. When
he was sixteen years old, he got a job with
his next door neighbor slash best friend's family. This family
owned a few bars on Bourbon Street and hired my
dad to work at one of the bars. He and
his best friend would go to work from six pm
to two am every weekend during the summers and most
of the school year. Two. This was Bourbon Street in
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the nineteen sixties, just as raucus, but with a lot
fewer rules. Exactly the place you want to send a
sixteen year old to work.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
My dad rules no, let's move.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Of age at that point. Probably my dad describes the
job as quote, we'd bring beer to the front and
gloss to the back and do it all over again.
But this wasn't fully the truth. Soon into their employment,
the bar owner asked them to start running a nightly
errand each night, around nine pm, they would bring a
case of alcohol to Miss Wallace at her quote home.
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They were told to quote wait there until Miss Wallace
pays you, and only except cash. My dad and his
friend knew exactly who Miss Wallace was, and we're rightfully
excited to do this delivery, especially again as sixteen year
old boys. Miss Wallace was none other than Norma Wallace,
the last Madam of New Orleans, whoa brothel owner extraordinaire,
(02:15):
And then it says she's credited with hosting the first
strip teases on Bourbon Street and helping the FBI with
capturing mobsters whoa girl. Each evening they would gather up
the liquor, drive over to her brothel and were let
in by the bouncer to wait in the hall. Still
sitting there, they saw all the clientele coming and going.
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Police chiefs, prominent businessmen, politicians, even the mayor. Allegedly, on
many occasions, every night, Miss Wallace would come downstairs with
a wad of cash, and they'd be on their way.
They continued this job for nearly three years. Wow. Later
in life, Miss Wallace tried to revamp her reputation by
opening a fancy restaurant on an old plantation. My grandma
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mother chose to go there for her birthday. Shortly after
it opened, Miss Wallace was making the rounds greeting guests,
and when she saw my dad came over and warmly
welcomed him by name. As she left, my grandmother, who
didn't recognize Miss Wallace, asked, how do you know that woman?
My dad replied, I've eaten here before. Just say sexy Melanie.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Immediately you're telling me the story, but I'm picturing The
Simpsons where Bart goes to the cadow.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You remember that one?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Or just like, wait a second, I've heard this story before.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Is it Miss Provoca? Now do you think you do?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You think the boss said only except cash, like do
not exchange sex for this liquor.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Oh, or it's like don't trust this lady on credit,
even though she probably had all the cash in the
freaking world, but maybe has stiffed someone before.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I think it was like, don't let her say boys,
would you like to go upstairs instead of getting paid.
That's what I was thinking. Nice one love a historical
brothel story. Okay, the subject line gives us so I
so I'll just read it to you.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Hi, MFM crew and pets.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Listening to your episode two seventy about Pam Hubb, Karen's
remark about what could be less effective for a stabbing
than a ballpoint pen reminded me of my hometown murder
known in the Netherlands as the ballpoint murder or the
ballpoint affair. In my hometown of Leiden in nineteen ninety one,
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a fifty three year old woman Mary de mayor this
person is writing in pronounced blank and they're doing it perfectly.
It seems like I know how to pronounce these names,
but they are writing it in for me.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So, a fifty three year old woman named Mary de
Mayer was found dead by her nineteen year old son,
and autopsy showed that you she died because a big
ballpoint pen was wedged into her brain that apparently entered trigger.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Warning via her eye socket knockout. It had gotten so
far inside.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Her brain that it was not visible from the outside
and it only showed up on the X ray oh yeah.
After a few years of fruitless police investigation, the authorities
arrest her nineteen year old son for murder because his
therapist came forward to say that he had told her
he shot his mother with a crossbow and then in parentheses,
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loaded with the big pen. Later, a caretaker from his
school also comes forward to say he overheard the son
and another discuss quote the perfect murder. After a court
case in nineteen ninety five, the son is convicted to
a sentence of twelve years for murder. His lawyers claim
the cause of death could have been an unfortunate fall
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where Mary fell on top of the pen, which lodged
into her brain. After the conviction, an ophthalmologists independently tests
the crossbow theory but concludes a small crossbow couldn't have
been used because the pen would have fractured while it
was found in the victim's skull. Intact, another ophthalmologist carried
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out the same test and found a small crossbow could
not shoot a big pen into a human skull without
being fractured, and then in parentheses, he did this using
actual human heads from cadavers. That's horrifying. Yeah, Okay, so
after these findings. The son, who's now in his twenties,
(06:40):
was provisionally released. More research and testing is done, which
experts say proves a fall could have resulted in the
injury scene. Apparently there was a similar case where somebody
fell and impaled themselves on a pencil, which also completely
disappeared into the skull without breaking. And then in parentheses,
I have a head just thinking about it. I'm like
(07:01):
plucking on my oyebrows right now.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's very this one is.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I guess that the trigger warning should have come away
at the beginning because this is such a specific, like
I things are so specifically terrifying and awful. On appeal
in nineteen ninety six, The Sun was acquitted because of
lack of evidence. When the therapist was called to the
stand again on appeal, she claimed doctor patient privilege. Not
(07:26):
with that, yeah, not before all. This is to say,
in some cases, ballpoint pens can be deadly. Thanks for
your great podcast. Your style partly inspired my own very
niche war crimes and international justice podcasts called asymmetrical Haircuts.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yes yes, yes, truth and naming. I love it? Are
you okay? What the fuck? That is so funny? It's
so funny.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's the funniest name.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Sorry, it's you know, you know, sometimes I skim these
so that they can be a surprise to me too,
and that part really surprised me. Stay sexy and don't
follow your ballpoint pen, Stephanie.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I mean, that is horrific in so many ways.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And it's also this thing that I think comes up
in true crime stories a lot, and I think maybe
no now more because of modern forensics and stuff. Is
this thing of like of look into the science of
what happened to make sure that someone isn't going to
jail because like in the worst case scenario, which is
(08:47):
their mother died in a terrible acco totally accident and
now they're going to jail.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I have a Yeah, that's that's totally crazy. Wow, horrifying. Yeah,
very I have something.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
It's also remind.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You what.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I have so many thoughts on that, and I can't
keep them straight because I'm just so blown away because.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It's so creepy.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well, can I tell you My thought is that this
reminds me in third grade. I'll never forget this because
I witnessed it with my own eyes on the playground.
It was after school and for some reason. Two of
I'd say, the most popular boys at Wilson's school, Jimmy
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Martin and Billy Bertolucci. Oh sure, We're standing on the
playground throwing a pencil back and forth at each other.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And like arcing it up into the air.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
And yes, and they were pretty far away from each other.
They kept backing up and throwing it. It was like
it was a seventies like ye, it was like a
psa of like, here's what you do not do except
for stuff like this is what happens in the seventies.
And of course, and now I can't remember. In my mind,
(10:01):
I remember that it happened to Billy Berlucci.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
One of them threw it.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Now the other one went to catch it, turned his
head and the pencil went into their ears.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And the whole thing. I just remember standing. I saw
the whole thing happen.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It was just like in my mind, I kind of
was just like, yeah, that was probably gonna happen, Like, yeah,
you're throwing a pencil at each other.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Can we get listeners? Right in the dumbest thing you
witnessed as a child of other children doing your own
children anonymously. You know you don't have out your kid,
but just those things are names. Well what did you
think was going to happen?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I have two stories of stitch getting stitches in my
face of like, yeah, what did you think was going
to happen as a little kid? Well, you got stitches
in your face twice as a little kid?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
What?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yes? Where one in my eyebrow? I have a little
scar right here and one in my from billieve it
or not, the bottom of the kiddie pool at the
local pool.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Did you dive?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I didn't dive. I rolled into the pool. It was like,
this will be fine. I saw some quote teenagers doing
it through really like twelve rolling each other in and
then they left and I was like, ah, that looks cool.
Clunked my fucking chin bleeding into the water, which I
was always shark bait gross, and then had to be restrained.
I remember it to get stitches because I was losing
(11:27):
my mind and my mom was holding my hand the
whole time. It was just like does it hurt so bad?
I mean, because it's like you're in a hospital with
someone coming at you with fucking sewing yancils, and yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And you're like, bitch, No, I don't care how much
my chin is bleeding.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I mean when I got my ears pierced, I wanted
them so bad, and I was like four. I begged
and I saw my watch my sister do it, and
the like pharmacy was where it was at. I got
one done and they went to do the other one
and I ran out screaming. It's like a four year old.
I was like, no, maybe I saw her do it.
They went to do it on me halfway through right approving,
(12:07):
and then body piercing started happening, and I was fine
with it somehow. All right. That was next. Well, that
was okay, all right. This one's called I might be
on the No fly list. Hello at all. I'm listening
to your latest episode about Mace, and I thought i'd
like to share with you my own May story. In
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two thousand and six or so, I was fresh out
of college and moved to the mountains of Colorado to
have a year of fun. The year turned into eight,
but I don't regret a second of it. My story
starts with a typical day of work as a bellman
slash valet at a very large hotel in snow mass Village, Colorado,
asspen specifically well working. I was in the back. While working,
(12:51):
I was in the back doing a quote key audit
of all the key valet keys, making sure they had tags,
were on the appropriate peg, were marked correctly, and so forth.
I came upon a set of keys with dozens of
chochkeys and began to look through them. I really appreciate
using the word and correct spelling of chochkeys, being from
a smallish city in Michigan and not really the most
(13:12):
quote worldly man. I wasn't sure what the pink cylinder
dangling from the keys was or what it was for.
I looked it over and I cannot tell you what
I was thinking, but pressing the little handle seemed like
the next step in my evolutionary process. Soon, a spray
came flowing forth and my eyes began to water. I
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put the keys back upon the peg board and closed
the door behind me as I walked out of the
back office to get some fresh mountain air. Another eye story. Yeah.
As I stood in our valet circle, I noticed people
beginning to walk out of the double doors from our lobby.
I saw my services manager ushering people out, but I
was still oblivious to what was happening. You See, the
(13:55):
funny thing about our back office in our valet area
was that the air handler for the entire lobby sat
in the corner. When I closed the door behind me,
I thought that was the end of the story. But
the air handler had started to suck in all the
fumes and was literally airing my mistake to the entire space.
This is the post office fart story all over again. Now.
(14:18):
I'm usually a very honest man, but once the fire
department showed up, I wasn't about to say anything. Speculation abound,
terrorist attack, gaslak, biological weapon. Nope, just a dumbass twenty
three year old who had never seen a can of mace.
Stay sexy, and don't press the button just because it's
(14:39):
a button.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Corey, Corey, that is some of the best advice that
you can give a person. Don't press buttons, just.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Randomly pressed buttons because there's a Button't do it. No,
don't do it. No, it's only trouble unless you're in
an elevator. And even then, Yeah, careful, only the numbers.
That's got to be a sure anywhere we wait.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
If he mazed himself a little, wouldn't like, wasn't he
the one standing there with bright red eyes?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
But everyone?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Oh true, he blended in perfectly.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah that who knows what's happening around here?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Terrorist attack? It must be got a terrorist attack and
a small ski down.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Okay this one? Okay, Oh, I won't read you this
subject line. Hi, Karen and Georgia.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I just want to start out by saying I love you,
I love the podcast, and I love the pets.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Thank you great start. My mom and I are huge fans.
I mom and she has been waiting for an interesting
murder to quote unquote suddenly occur, just to email it
to you both.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Please don't don't wish for that.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, we both listen. You can email.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
What you need to tell your mom is that she
can email about pretty much anything in the world.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
At this point, it doesn't have to be about Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Really, we both listened every Monday and Thursday, so it's
not convenient listening to gruesome murders on the way to
pulling up to my Christian middle school.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But I still love you both.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Middle school.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
This is a middle schooler or is it a person
who founded their own middle school?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh? My god, they.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Opened their own I own a middle school and make
a ton of money.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Oh it's Christian, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Any anyways, moving on, so Hotel Galvez. Hotel Galvez is
located in Galveston, Texas, sort of near the sea wall.
Oh now that I know that seawall down by the
sea wall, that wall, yeah, yeah, down there. I first
heard of this story from my mom, but I did
some extra research to make sure I wrote this correctly.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Good job.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Audra couldn't find her last name, was a twenty five
year old bride to be in the nineteen fifties. She
was engaged to a mariner who would often leave her
alone while he was outsailing. Whenever this mariner's ship was
due to port, Audre would go to room five oh one.
It has been said before that she would also rent
the room. She would choose to go to room five
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oh one because it was in particular proximity to the elevator,
which she would use to access the ladder. Audre would
climb the ladder to the rooftop and spend her time
there while her soon to be newly awed was away
at work. After a violent storm, Audre was informed her
fiance would not return because his ship was capsized overcome
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with fear, despair, and heartbreak, Audra hung herself on the
hotel's west turret to make matters worse. A couple of
days later, Audre's fiance returned. He had somehow survived the
storm and was eager to see his beautiful wife.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
While waiting for his soon to be bride, he was
told that she had previously just died by suicide.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Years later.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Guests visiting the hotels say they can feel a cold
chill overcome them. Others report doors slamming shut, and some
have even reported lights flickering. There have been more reports,
such as television's turning off with no explanation, and like
I said, there was more, but I'm too lazy to.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Tie the rest of the right place, sweetheart.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Well hello, So that was the story of the infamous
Hotel Galvez. So while it wasn't a vicious murder, I
still thought it was a pretty interesting story. Thank you
for taking the time to make the best podcast I've heard,
and thank you for being so close to your fans.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Oh, I hope.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You found this somewhat interesting, And I really hope you
guys haven't read the story before, because sometimes my mom
listens without me.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Oh, my god, rude, how that is unforgivable a child
of merit?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Oh dare thank you both so much again three exclamation points.
Much love, Jen in parentheses, my mom and Julia in parentheses.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Me, thank you Julia. Well, that was beautifully written.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
And I love that story because it's like a ghost
origin story.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Oh so good, so sad. Here's one. That's there's my
last one. And they said murder would be the worst outcome.
It's the name of it. And they said murder would
be the worst outcome. That's how I was supposed to
say it. Yeah, starts Karen and Georgia. I apparently live
under a rock and that rock is called Central Illinois.
(19:35):
This one's really sweet. Actually, I love this one. It
took to being held prisoner in my own home aka quarantine,
to start quarantining, to start listening to your podcast, and
now I am obsessed, it says, but not in a
creepy obsessed kind of way. Small backstory on myself. I
have grown up in and still live in a small
and very conservative hometown. I have known since childhood that
(19:57):
I wasn't attracted to men, But coming to terms with
knowing you or gay in any incredibly religious town also
comes along with feelings and fear and disappointment in yourself.
I myself have always believed in and still believe in
a higher power, but it took this experience to come
along for me to be like, Okay, those who love
them most in this world need to know the real you.
(20:21):
And it reminds me of Fortune Fumestre's beautiful stand up special.
What's it called? Sweet and Salty? Sweet and salty and
just her journey and story. I'm so inspiring and I
think everyone needs to listen to it. Don't read it.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
As I was going to say, nice plugged I she'll enjoy.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That I love her. After many failed attempts at dating men,
because the younger me had truly hoped that my feelings
would change, I decided to try one last ditch effort
and be matched with someone online. We're talking early two
thousands e harmony situation. I know I needed to be
so incredibly careful because we've all seen online horror stories,
(20:56):
but I was as honest as I could be with
my personal likes and dislikes end goal to maybe have
a successful relationship with a man. After submitting my profile,
I stepped away from my computer for the rest of
the evening. I went to bed that night praying that
if the heterosexual relationship was truly what God wanted for me,
let this last effort decision be the answer to my prayers.
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The following morning, I was excited and nervous because I
had received an overnight match that shared ninety eight percent
of interest with me. In eager anticipation, I clicked on
this gentleman's profile, and although his picture wasn't a close up,
he looked oddly familiar. I know, at this point in
the story most murdering age, hoping that would be some
well known psycho, but alas it was a nice young
(21:38):
man who happens to be in quite a few of
my family photos my cousin Matt. Turns out we do
have quite a few things in common, the most important
being a set of grandparents. It was at that point
(21:58):
that I knew that God, or maybe my own inner
big girl voice, was finally telling me that I am
enough and to move on. Fast forward to ten years later,
and although I'm quite I'm still quite closeted, I am
out to those I truly want to know, and finally
feel a sense of peace within myself. I even took
motherhood in my own hands with the help of a donor.
(22:20):
I have the world's coolest eight year old son. I
made sure you made sure to use a cryobank from
incredibly far away, because I couldn't risk my child's donor
being a cousin as well. Thank you, ladies for the
crazy stories and endless laughter. Your big hearts and acceptance
of others are what this world needs more of. Stay sexy,
(22:40):
and don't let online dating sites set you up with
family members.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Cory, Cory, what a beautiful story to share. That's so,
you know, personal, but them also hilarious. I mean, like
if that you would be, that's like proof God exists totally.
It's just like you you just got what you prayed for,
a sign. Your cousin's showing up.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, it's like, here's the best you can hope for, Corey,
and then so what are you gonna And I just
love that as your sign. Yeah, God is yours too,
Higher Power is yours too, and that you don't let
anyone fucking take it away from you. There's no the
God's rules are not your rules. It's it's not God's
rules either, it's man made also.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I it's just so I wonder if Corey is like older,
because I just feel like it's when people like you
Central Illinois, or you live in a small town, or
you live in an ultra conservative area or something like that,
you get served up this idea of what you have
to do based on what your family believes, what your
(23:47):
you know, what school you go to or whatever, and
that idea that it's what's inside you, it's what you
know to be true, is what you So this last one,
the subject line is, so are we doing Saint Joseph statues?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Don't worries? Now?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Oh? Okay, hi all, I'm just going to start this
as if I've not written in a bunch of hometowns before.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That have not been read.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Bitter right off the bat, fucking so bitter.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yes, I absolutely support it. It says don't worry, no
hard feelings, bullshit. We read that first sentence.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
We know how you feel.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
My family doesn't have any good murder stories, apparently, but
we do have a Saint Joseph's statue story. Good, all good,
everything is accepted.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
My parents were trying to unload a real piece of
shit house. My parents are trying to unload a real
piece of shit house with foundation issues and groovy, bright
orange shag carpet in the early nineties.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah you were.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
The house was not selling, so devout Catholics that they were.
My parents decided to bury the old Saint Joseph's statue
and then in parentheses, I can't confirm if it was
glow in the dark, but I do know burying him
upside down is key. Okay, clothes parentheses, they set a
novena to Saint Joseph. Bonus fact they had both prayed
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this novena at the same time, not knowing the other
was also praying for a spouse.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh, I don't get it, but all.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Basically they they believe they met because they both prayed
to Saint Joseph to find a husband.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Dan dawaf c mean cute.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, well, we'll talk about that sentence structure later.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
You're mad at first, to the end of the novena,
they started Oh oh sorry, here's the rest of the story.
At the end of the novena, they started dating and
quickly were engaged. Well, just like their relationship, Saint Joe
pulled through because at the end of nine days a kooky,
almost unearthly lady showed up offering to buy the house
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in cash.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
My parents couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
But they were scheduled to move into our new house
in a couple days, and they didn't ask questions. They
kept in touch with their old neighbor, who told them
that the lady never moved in, but had turned it
into a bird and animal sanctuary.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Oh, dream life, what's up?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Was she an angel? Was she just a crazy lady?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
As far as our family concerned, she was both stay
sexy and pray to Saint Joseph.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So I was hoping for a whole rundown of her
wardrobe and her lawn care tricks and tips.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
She was just dressed like a bird.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
She was just.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I'm wearing her shirt. I have this like I have
a Blanche from Golden Girls colorful shirt on, and I
feel it's a grandma's shirt for sure. He probably came
with pants that matched, you know, with the last.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, because it has a sizeable collar, and so I'm
seeing some bell bottoms that went with that, the same material.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
So I get kindred spirits. Wow, that was great. Nice,
That was a great match. You guys are knocking it
out of the g D park.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah, thank you for your participage.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
If you want to hear one more from each of us,
go to the fan Cult. We're now reading fan Cult
only sent in Hometown's one extra every week and it's
called the Mini Mini that's right. And there's video, believe that.
And there's a forum, and there's all kinds of places
to just get extra content. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Don't you love content?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Content creators. That's what we are.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I have content creators.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
That's right, all right, Well, stay sexy and don't get murdered.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Goodbye, Elvis. Do you want a cookie
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