Behind the Message

Behind the Message

We take you behind what we teach with long form conversations on theology, leadership and spirituality.

Episodes

January 16, 2026 52 mins
John 2 and the Kind of “Religious” That Makes Jesus Mad. John 2 holds a paradox on purpose: the kingdom looks like extravagant grace at a wedding and uncompromising confrontation when worship becomes a gatekeeping machine. Jesus is abundant for the empty—and fiercely opposed to religious systems that keep people out while claiming God’s authority. 14:15 – Start talking about the message ...
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Stories from Uber**https://www.uber.com/blog/once-upon-a-ride/** Started talking about the message at 9:34 Timeline of John’s retelling:https://bible.usccb.org/bible/john/0 Summer sausagehttps://www.southernliving.com/what-is-summer-sausage-8363025
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December 15, 2025 6 mins
In this special Advent edition of Behind the Message, we’re slowing down with short, reflective conversations designed to help you engage the themes of hope, peace, joy, and love throughout the season. Each mini episode offers a simple takeaway and a moment to recenter your heart on the wonder of Christ’s coming.
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December 9, 2025 7 mins
In this special Advent edition of Behind the Message, we’re slowing down with short, reflective conversations designed to help you engage the themes of hope, peace, joy, and love throughout the season. Each mini episode offers a simple takeaway and a moment to recenter your heart on the wonder of Christ’s coming.
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December 3, 2025 6 mins
In this special Advent edition of Behind the Message, we’re slowing down with short, reflective conversations designed to help you engage the themes of hope, peace, joy, and love throughout the season. Each mini episode offers a simple takeaway and a moment to recenter your heart on the wonder of Christ’s coming.
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November 26, 2025 58 mins
Started talking about the message: 10:15 What’s the difference between La Nina and El Nino?https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ninonina.html The Farmer’s Almanac – Ben Franklin did not invent it:https://www.almanac.com/history-old-farmers-almanac Nicolas Cage:https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115 SBC removes Saddleback from its denomination:https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/14/us/southern-ba...
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November 7, 2025 40 mins
Philip’s tomb in Hierapolishttps://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-sites-places/biblical-archaeology-sites/tomb-of-… The walk to Hierapolishttps://www.gettyimages.com/photos/hierapolis This I believe – Hillsong Same God – Elevation Modern-day Nicea – Iznik in the Bursa Province of northwestern Turkeyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/İznik The Great Theater of Ephesus from Acts 19:...
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October 10, 2025 47 mins
Mariners clip of a man crying after the win:https://www.si.com/mlb/mariners-fans-full-emotion-seattle-first-home-playoff-win-since-2001 His Favorite Song of all – Phillips, Craig, and Dean Stacey Orricohttps://www.youtube.com/stacieorrico Barlow Girlhttps://www.youtube.com/user/barlowgirlmusic
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October 2, 2025 55 mins
9/29/25 – David and Goliath Adventures in Odyssey Garrison Keeler Chris Theeley Nickel Creek Now 95 Wow Worship Best Friend Inside Out Darlene Zschech    Reuben Morgan Crystal Lewis Awesome God Shout to the Lord Sometimes by Step Like Incense Rich Mullins 17:00 start talking about the message Malcolm Gladwell’s book Davie and Goliath Miracle on Ice Babe Babe Ruth Hank Aaron ...
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Emotionally healthy spirituality – Pete Scazzero Teddy Roosevelt https://theodoreroosevelt.org/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=991271&module_id=339332 John Wayne The Night at the Museum https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477347 The Natural History Museum in NYC https://www.amnh.org Presidential podcast by the Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/presidential Safe Pa...
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September 19, 2025 42 mins
9:45 started talking about the sermon John 5:39 You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me. 1 Peter 3:20-21 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, an...
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September 5, 2025 47 mins
Good and Beautiful books by James Bryan Smith Dallas Willardhttps://dwillard.org Rich Mullinshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Mullins Gen Z now Leads in Church Attendance: Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z:https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/01/17/where-millennials-end-and-generation-z-begins Safe Housing: Rich Villodashttps://www.richvillodas.com Rich Villodas’ Church: ...
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What is the project? Why this matters: About the program: Outcomes & Success: Addressing Concerns: Why the Church? Encouragement & Hope: Call to Action:
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July 25, 2025 47 mins
Unsolved Mysteries Robert Stack https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0821041 JOHN WALSH https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0909696 America’s Most Wanted https://www.fox.com/americas-most-wanted Jerry Seinfeld https://jerryseinfeld.com Perfect Strangers https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090501 TGIF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGIF_(TV_programming_block) 9:13 – started talking about Big Questions Lazarus ht...
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June 13, 2025 52 mins
AI language Asbury revival How was the civil rights movement connected to the churchhttps://www.detroitpbs.org/news-media/american-black-journal/paving-the-way-for-today-how-the-black-church-supported-the-civil-rights-movement Desert Mothers and Fathershttps://www.britannica.com/topic/asceticism St. Ignatius of Loyola Julian of Norwichhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_of_Norwich Tooth...
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June 5, 2025 47 mins
Chopstick etiquettehttps://everythingchopsticks.com/Guide-to-Chopsticks-Etiquette-Around-the-World.html Ben’s favorite movie monsterhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073195 Foursquare International Conferencehttps://www.foursquare.org/events/connection
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May 23, 2025 41 mins
Randy Remingtonhttps://www.foursquare.org/about/leadership/#senior-leadership B4 Churchhttps://www.b4church.org 27:25 – start talking about the message
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May 16, 2025 51 mins
Small talkhttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/field-guide-to-families/202503/the-enormity-of-small-talk-as-an-introvert 12:36 – start talking about the message Les Mis Bo Stern Bradyhttps://www.bostern.com “Why we laugh when it’s not even funny”https://synapse.ucsf.edu/articles/2023/01/08/why-you-laugh-when-its-not-even-funny
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May 9, 2025 44 mins
1:55 – Kentucky Derby & F1 Racing 7:35 – Recapping Sunday: God’s Grace vs. Self-Righteousness 14:50 – How should we interact with God’s grace? 18:50 – God’s grace should motivate us to do good 22:20 – Grace should not be seen as optional 26:00 – The importance of driving stick, The Amazing Race, and The Bachelor 28:54 – Reading scripture in context (and with curiosity) 35:35 – Cherry...
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May 2, 2025 44 mins
Moanahttps://movies.disney.com/moana Flight of the Conchordshttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0863046 Start talking about W1 – 6:00 Resurgence of Christianity Onesimushttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philemon 1&version=NLT Powers being humiliated by Christ’s work on the crosshttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians 2%3A14-15&version=NLT Daughtership? Yes, it...
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