Episode 3: The Balancing Act

Hey Besties! Welcome to Episode 3 where we talk about work life balance - or the lack thereof. Join us as we talk about how we juggle busy lives, kids, husbands, our business and still make time for ourselves.

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Pucking Around by Emily Rath

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Episode Transcript

Carrie (00:08):
Hey, I'm Carrie.

Kristine (00:09):
And I'm Kristine.

Carrie (00:10):
And we are best friends.

Kristine (00:11):
Welcome to two Babes Podcast.
This is episode three, three.
Oh my gosh, we are reallygetting into it.

Carrie (00:18):
We are Yeah, so this week we're, talking about
something we get asked a lot andthat is work-life balance.
Not even just work and life, butjust all of it.

Kristine (00:28):
How we do it all basically.
Cuz there's a lot that goes onin our lives between work and
just extra activities.
And friendship and blah, blah,blah, blah, blah.

Carrie (00:38):
Yeah.
So many blah, blah, blah.
So many, blah, blah, blah.
So that's what we're talkingabout today.
Yeah, it's gonna be a goodepisode.

Kristine (00:45):
We're gonna cover a lot, so let's do it.

Carrie (00:47):
Can't wait.

Kristine (00:47):
Okay.
So we're gonna kick it off with,uh, who we are so you actually
know who you're listening to.
I'm Kristine.

Carrie (00:53):
I'm Carrie.

Kristine (00:54):
And I hope you can, uh, figure out whose voice is
who's, cuz apparently we soundalike.

Carrie (00:58):
Apparently

Kristine (00:59):
says our editing, software.
It's confused.

Carrie (01:01):
I, I honestly think we sound quite different, but you
know what, what do I know?

Kristine (01:05):
I think we sound different too.
Mm-hmm.
I feel like I'm so mousey, likeI'm so high pitched

Carrie (01:10):
Yeah.

Kristine (01:11):
And you're like different.
Like it's just, I don't know,but apparently we sound the
same.
So good luck.

Carrie (01:16):
Yeah.
So, uh, how was your weekend?

Kristine (01:18):
It was really, it was good.
I was with you.
Uh, it was really good.

Carrie (01:23):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (01:23):
I, what did I do Friday?
What was Friday?

Carrie (01:25):
That was our day off.

Kristine (01:27):
We did have Friday off.
Oh yeah.
I did a lot of house things.
Um, if you don't know, Carrieknows, because her husband is
building it.
we're building a new house, sowe did some house things.
Um, and then I really don'tremember what else I did Friday,
but Saturday I ran, I had a nicelong run, 15 kilometers and then
I

Carrie (01:47):
Sounds terrible.

Kristine (01:49):
Yeah, it can be.
Yeah, it definitely can be.

Carrie (01:52):
I say that every time.

Kristine (01:52):
It was a good one.
I felt, uh, I felt strong thewhole time.

Carrie (01:55):
That's nice.

Kristine (01:56):
Um, I had a lot of power And then I was at your
house and we pooled all day andwe had pool

Carrie (02:00):
all day Saturday

Kristine (02:01):
drinky poos.

Carrie (02:02):
Couple,

Kristine (02:03):
I mean, quite a few drinky pooh's.

Carrie (02:05):
We did.
We pretty much, we went fromnoon till 10 o'clock, I think.
You home?

Kristine (02:09):
I think.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Carrie (02:11):
Late for me.

Kristine (02:12):
I didn't tell you what Scarlett and I did on the way
home, so I had my bike.

Carrie (02:15):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (02:15):
Um, and Scarlett was like, can I ride your bike?
And I was like, yeah, okay, hopon.
So, but obviously she's too tinyto pedal it.
So she hopped on and she wasstanding and pedaling and we
were laughing so hard.
I mean like belly hurt laughing.

Carrie (02:28):
Yeah.

Kristine (02:28):
The whole way people, there was still a lot of people
outside cuz it was gorgeous.
So people were like laughing andclapping and saying things out
of their windows as they weredriving past.
It was so funny.

Carrie (02:37):
That is funny.

Kristine (02:38):
that was a core memory.
That was for sure.

Carrie (02:40):
I love that.

Kristine (02:41):
And uh, Sunday I just kind of hung out.
We did a lot of practicing forgymnastics.
Nice, nice.
And uh, I did a little bit ofwork on the weekend on Sunday.
Yeah.
Relaxed.

Carrie (02:51):
That's nice.

Kristine (02:52):
Had a shower.

Carrie (02:53):
That is really nice.

Kristine (02:53):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nice time.
What about you?

Carrie (02:57):
Well, Friday I did all my laundry.

Kristine (02:59):
Yes.

Carrie (03:00):
Just got my house back to Lake.
How I like it.
I really like to be organized.
I'm so, I like to make my bedevery morning.
I like to just be in a routineand I've been very out of my
routine.
So that was big for me, justgetting all that done.
And then, um, that was it forFriday.
Friday.
I don't, I don't know what elseI did.
I can't remember.
Yeah, it's been a while.

(03:20):
Two, two days.

Kristine (03:21):
I know.

Carrie (03:22):
And then, Saturday you guys were over and Sunday I just
finished up everything I neededto get done for the week.
I meal prepped for the week.
I got all my workout stuffready.
I went for a nice walk beforethe storm came.
It was just good, just chill.

Kristine (03:35):
And there was quite a storm.

Carrie (03:37):
There was, yeah.
Sandstorm.
Yeah.

Kristine (03:38):
Sounds like a good weekend.

Carrie (03:39):
Yeah.
And then I just, uh, I read mybook.

Kristine (03:43):
What are you reading right now?

Carrie (03:44):
Okay.
So I can't wait to tell youabout it.
So, It's a series and I read thefirst book, the Novella that
goes before it.
So it's called that One Night byEmily Wrath.
I've been really into sportsromances lately, so I wanted to
start another one.
I was reading some thrillers andI just needed a, I needed a

(04:04):
break with just stuff that Ididn't really have to think
about.

Kristine (04:07):
Mm-hmm.

Carrie (04:07):
So I started reading that one night and I finish it
cause it's just a littlenovella.
And then the second book iscalled, Pucking around.

Kristine (04:15):
Oh yeah.

Carrie (04:16):
Puck pucking around.
Does that sound right?
And uh,

Kristine (04:18):
I think I saw that on your, Kindle this morning.

Carrie (04:20):
yeah.
Pucking around.
Yeah.
So it's about a hockey team andI'm just really excited.
It's, uh, it's a Why chooseromance?
So there's three guys and onelady.

Kristine (04:31):
Yes.

Carrie (04:32):
Yeah.
So I'm very excited and yeah.

Kristine (04:35):
I love books That are all my fantasies.

Carrie (04:37):
Yeah.
Yeah.

Kristine (04:38):
And then I, you can live through it.

Carrie (04:40):
Yeah.
So I'm excited.
I just, I'm only a couplechapters in.
I forced myself to stop readinglast night, which was very
difficult.
But yeah, so Pucking Around byEmily Wrath.
I will keep you hosted on how itis.

Kristine (04:51):
Okay, good.

Carrie (04:51):
But then novella was good.
So good.
I love sports romances as well.

Kristine (04:56):
Yeah.
I just love romances.

Carrie (04:57):
Yeah, me too.
I just, sports, I don't know.
Just it's been, I've just beenenjoying the sports.

Kristine (05:02):
Good, good, Sports fan.

Carrie (05:04):
Yeah.

Kristine (05:04):
Go sports.
Woo.

Carrie (05:06):
And, um, I also, I will see how I feel about this.
I really prefer a series thathave the same characters in
every book.
Like it follows their romancefor like two or three books.
Yeah.
I prefer that.
This one, I think it switchescharacters each book and it's
fine.
But my preference is the samecouple for the whole series.
But,

Kristine (05:26):
yeah.
Well, that sounds good.

Carrie (05:27):
Yeah.

Kristine (05:28):
you let me know how it goes.

Carrie (05:29):
I will You're not reading anything now?

Kristine (05:30):
I'm not reading anything right now.

Carrie (05:31):
Okay.

Kristine (05:31):
I still have yet to choose a book, but I am very
much wrapped up in, a show, atelevision show.

Carrie (05:37):
Oh, television.

Kristine (05:37):
I am watching Firefly Lane.

Carrie (05:39):
Yeah.
Right.

Kristine (05:40):
And I am so obsessed with it.

Carrie (05:42):
Yeah.

Kristine (05:43):
I, if you have a best friend, I think it is something
that you need to watch.
Their friendship is so beautifuland there's so many things that
remind me of us.

Carrie (05:54):
Yeah.

Kristine (05:54):
In how they talk to each other in their, Just their
interactions and the things thatthey go through.

Carrie (05:59):
Yeah.

Kristine (06:00):
There's a lot of us, there's a lot of different
things that they go through thatum, God forbid it ever happens.

Carrie (06:05):
Yeah.
No.
we have a pact.

Kristine (06:07):
Yeah, I know.
we do have a pact.

Carrie (06:08):
Yeah.

Kristine (06:08):
I recommend a pact if you, have a best friend.
it's a no dying pact, butanyway,

Carrie (06:14):
there's no death pact oh.

Kristine (06:16):
I feel like if you have one of those, you can't
break it.

Carrie (06:19):
No.

Kristine (06:19):
So, but anyway, so the show is just so, so beautiful
and I'm so in love with howthey, how I guess how it's
produced.
It's just done well.

Carrie (06:29):
That's good.

Kristine (06:30):
Like the flashbacks are perfect.
their wardrobes are on point.
The acting is delicious.
I, I'm on the last episode rightnow and I need to go home.
Like I need to go home.

Carrie (06:41):
That's fair.
That's fair.
And it's Katherine Heigel forme.

Kristine (06:44):
I know, I know.
You don't like her.

Carrie (06:45):
And she's not my fave.

Kristine (06:46):
And like, I totally understand it and I accept it.
But those, I kind of remove her.

Carrie (06:51):
Yeah.

Kristine (06:51):
Away.
She does a really good job ofbeing this completely different
person for me.
Yeah.
In the show, I just, they're ablonde and a brunette
girlfriend.
Like

Carrie (06:59):
Yeah, I know.
I know.

Kristine (07:01):
There's a lot of similarities here.
I know, and those.
The way that they go throughlife together is exactly how we
do it.

Carrie (07:07):
Yeah.
I like that.

Kristine (07:08):
There's no bullshit.

Carrie (07:09):
Yeah.

Kristine (07:09):
Which I really like.
Yeah.
It's good.
Is you're very much onecharacter and I'm very much the
other one.

Carrie (07:15):
Yeah.
I like that.
like that a lot.

Kristine (07:16):
If you can remove Katherine Heigle from it.
Yeah.
I recommend it.

Carrie (07:19):
I'm trying to take a hiatus from TV right now.
It's just, yeah.
It's too much.
Sitting, sitting and watching TVis just

Kristine (07:26):
mm-hmm.

Carrie (07:27):
You know.
It is a book is It is.
It's from a book.

Kristine (07:29):
Oh, shit.
Well, I'm gonna freaking readit.
Are you sure Yeah, it is.

Carrie (07:33):
I don't know.
Let me Google it.
Yeah, I'm googling it whilewe're talking.

Kristine (07:36):
Okay, good.
But yeah, it's really, reallygood.
If you haven't watched it,highly recommend it.
If it's a book, go read it.
Um, I'm gonna read it too, Iguess, um, So that's currently
what I'm up to these

Carrie (07:44):
Yeah.

Kristine (07:45):
Days.

Carrie (07:45):
It is a book.
Yeah.

Kristine (07:46):
Okay.
Well, I'll read it.

Carrie (07:47):
Well, some of the moments in Firefly Lane were
inspired by Hannah's real life.
The series main characters arenot entirely based on any real
people.
However, both are kind of sortainspired by the author herself.

Kristine (07:58):
Okay.
Well I'll find out.

Carrie (08:00):
Apparently it's quite different from the book, from
what I read.

Kristine (08:02):
Okay.

Carrie (08:02):
But, um, not just now, but like previously, but yeah,
we'll see.

Kristine (08:06):
Okay.
I'll give it a shot.

Carrie (08:07):
Okay.
Alright.

Kristine (08:08):
so that's what's I'm up to these days.
Okay.
Anything else?
You got anything else going on?

Carrie (08:13):
No.

Kristine (08:14):
You have any other

Carrie (08:14):
I wish I could say I did.

Kristine (08:15):
I know.
it's kind of nice to have alittle bit of a break right now.

Carrie (08:18):
I want nothing to

Kristine (08:19):
Me too,

Carrie (08:19):
and this, this flows really nicely into the topic of
this podcast is this work-lifebalance that will never be
achieved, but how we manage itand try to keep ourselves sane.

Kristine (08:32):
Yeah, Keeping ourselves sane is very important
and

Carrie (08:35):
it is

Kristine (08:35):
how many things we've got going on.
Let's kind of talk about what wehave going on.
So we obviously have Lavenderand Lace we have that, which is

Carrie (08:42):
our business.

Kristine (08:43):
99% of our lives

Carrie (08:45):
all consuming.
Very consuming.

Kristine (08:46):
And then we have our families,

Carrie (08:47):
we do,

Kristine (08:48):
we have our children, which obviously is huge.
Um, that takes up a lot of time.

Carrie (08:54):
And we each only have one.

Kristine (08:55):
Yes.

Carrie (08:56):
That helps.

Kristine (08:56):
It does help.
Um, thank God we have ourhusbands that help us with

Carrie (08:59):
mm-hmm.

Kristine (09:00):
Life and not help us.
They just do life.
and then, what else?
And then now we have thepodcast, and then we have our
extra,

Carrie (09:07):
our lives,

Kristine (09:07):
our extracurriculars.

Carrie (09:09):
Yeah.

Kristine (09:10):
Like yougym, I run, you concert, I concert, we have
like other things, our interest

Carrie (09:15):
and then we wanna hang out and not.
Be working.

Kristine (09:18):
Yes.
That's huge.

Carrie (09:19):
Which took us a really long time to figure out.
I found it.
It's just in this last year,

Kristine (09:23):
I agree.

Carrie (09:23):
You and I have figured out how to spend time together
and not talk about work.

Kristine (09:27):
Yeah.
I don't wanna talk about work.

Carrie (09:28):
No.

Kristine (09:29):
it's hard.

Carrie (09:29):
I think it took us a really long time to get there.

Kristine (09:32):
Yeah.
So moral of the story is, thereis no, there's no balance.
It's just making, trying to makespace for everything.
And sometimes it doesn't work.

Carrie (09:42):
Yeah.
And like in different seasons ofyour life, some things are a
bigger priority and we just gothrough that.

Kristine (09:49):
What's your biggest change of season?
What's, right now, what's thebiggest thing that you've got
going on that you just.
Wanna spend time on

Carrie (09:58):
myself, probably, I'd say like 2022 was the year of
not us.

Kristine (10:04):
You can see it in our photos, you guys.

Carrie (10:06):
Yeah.
Like I just didn't feel like mybest self and physical
appearance aside inside.
I just felt so bad.

Kristine (10:13):
Mm-hmm.

Carrie (10:14):
And I was constantly having anxiety attacks at work.
And so were you.
And like, you know, there wasjust so, so much that we put on
our shoulders and I just didn'tfeel like my best self because I
wasn't taking care of just me.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
And that was a big issue.
For both of us.
And it, it showed physically,obviously, but it also just, I

(10:36):
lost my luster for working here.
For owning this business becauseI didn't feel great and it just,
it, yeah.
The end of last year was hard.

Kristine (10:46):
Yeah.
I, and I'm gonna go back to, Isaid that you can really see it
in our photos.
Mm-hmm.
You truly can.
Um, like for myselfspecifically, I had, and it was.
Commented on, on a lot, Um,there I had a big weight gain.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I, my acne was back.
Mm-hmm.
I had, um, I just,

Carrie (11:03):
bags

Kristine (11:04):
I looked sad.

Carrie (11:05):
We looked, Um, we had no life.

Kristine (11:07):
Yeah.
And then I I think it wasNovember where I think, I don't
even know if we had aconversation about it or what,
but we both kind of like took astep back and looked Looked at
this past year and decided that.
There was gonna be a change, andI don't think we ever said it
out loud.

Carrie (11:24):
No.

Kristine (11:24):
But we both started taking care of ourselves a
little bit more.

Carrie (11:27):
Yeah.

Kristine (11:27):
Um, I e like going to the gym or running or um

Carrie (11:31):
mm-hmm.

Kristine (11:31):
Making sure we had an appointment for a massage here
and there.

Carrie (11:34):
Yeah.

Kristine (11:35):
And, uh, just kind of looking back at that year.
And deciding what was moreimportant.

Carrie (11:40):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (11:40):
And as obviously our business is important, but if we
aren't okay,

Carrie (11:45):
yes.
Yeah.

Kristine (11:46):
Then we will not have a business.

Carrie (11:47):
No.
It for me, actually, I knowbecause I have it in my
calendar, but it was Septemberlong weekend last year.
I remember there was like thisphoto of me and I was like, who
is like, who is that?
I didn't even recognize myself.
It was actually the week before.
Um, this is very vulnerable andI'm gonna get very vulnerable.

(12:08):
My husband took a video of us inVegas and he sent it to the
group.
And I was like, you need tounsend that

Kristine (12:14):
us?

Carrie (12:14):
Yes.
You and me.
And I was like, you need tounsend that.
Can you unsend that?
And he's like, N no, you can'tdo that, that you couldn't do
that.
At that point I was like, neverlook at that video again.
Like, it's so, it, I just,

Kristine (12:25):
I I need to know which one it is.

Carrie (12:26):
Oh, I'll show it to you.

Kristine (12:27):
Okay.

Carrie (12:28):
And I was like, I can never look like that.
Like, not that I looked bad, Ijust felt like I wasn't me.

Kristine (12:33):
Yeah.

Carrie (12:33):
I felt like I was looking at somebody.
Like that wasn't myself.
Mm-hmm.
And I was like, Nope.
I just looked tired.
I looked run down, I lookedgross.
And I just, it wasn't, it wasn'tnecessarily because I had gained
some weight, I just felt yucky.
And I knew how yucky I felt.
And so I said, Okay nextweekend, September long weekend,

(12:55):
enjoy it.
And then it's like, let's starttaking care.
Better care of ourself.
I started walking every day.
Mm-hmm.
I just, I didn't even startworking out in the gym yet.
I was just going on those walksby myself for an hour and just
like listening to music orlistening to a book, and I'm
like, this is me.
This is my time.

Kristine (13:10):
Yep.
Alone time is so important.

Carrie (13:13):
So important.

Kristine (13:13):
So important.
not that I don't wanna spend mytime with you, cause I do, I
choose to do that.

Carrie (13:17):
Yeah.

Kristine (13:17):
But sometimes they just need it.

Carrie (13:19):
Absolutely.
That's why I spend an hour inthe shower.
Yeah.
It's, it's the one thing I loveabout us so much.
Sometimes Kristine's like, doyou wanna come over for a bit?
And watch something.
I'm like, Nope, I don't want,and she's like, okay.
Like, I just, I just wanna sitby myself.
I sometimes I just don't wantto.

Kristine (13:32):
No.
And that is, and that's okay.

Carrie (13:33):
Yeah.

Kristine (13:34):
And I accept that you don't want to, cuz sometimes I
don't want to.
You know, like I, I want to justsit in my shower and read my
book.
And yes, I sit in my shower foran hour and

Carrie (13:43):
whatever.

Kristine (13:44):
That's fine.

Carrie (13:45):
Whatever works for you.

Kristine (13:46):
Thank you.
Thank you.
It does work for me.

Carrie (13:48):
And like I was, when we were planning this episode and
talking about things, I said,boundaries are so unbelievably
important.
And I know how hard it is.
And everyone, if you'relistening, you're like, ugh.
It's, it's easier said thandone.
It's actually not.
It's, it's so easy to do onceyou start doing it and you
realize how freeing it is.
I'm very good with boundariesand I know it's something that

(14:10):
you're still actively workingon.
But I don't have that guilt.
I don't, I just don't.
I owe some of that to Nickbecause my husband is very,
like, he.
Prides himself on doing whatmakes him happy and not caring
about other people.
And while it is important tomake other people happy, not at
your own expense.
And I'm very good at just beinglike, Nope, I don't wanna go.

(14:31):
No, I can't do that for youtoday.
Like, it'll start to, it justchanges your whole life when
you're easy, easily able to sayno.
Yeah.

Kristine (14:40):
I agree so much with that.

Carrie (14:42):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (14:42):
Sometimes I just don't want to, and sometimes I will
give in mm-hmm.
And say yes.
And then I'm just miserable.
And then I'm like, why did youdo that?
Why I just stay at home.
Mm-hmm.
Relax.
if you don't wanna go towhatever, don't sit at home.

Carrie (14:58):
And there's there's some things of course, you obviously
have to do

Kristine (15:01):
of course.

Carrie (15:01):
But there's, there's actually nothing you have to do.
I remember there was one summeryou, I felt like you had
something every Saturday.

Kristine (15:09):
I hated it.

Carrie (15:10):
You did.
And that's not like that sucks.

Kristine (15:13):
I don't, I wanna do what I wanna do and I'm not
saying yes anymore if I truly,madly, deeply do not want to do
that.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I think that was one of mybiggest gains, I think this
year.

Carrie (15:26):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (15:27):
Even last year.
Yes, too.

Carrie (15:28):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (15:28):
I work, I was working on it, but this year I would say
I've done it more.

Carrie (15:31):
Absolutely.

Kristine (15:32):
And I, it pays off.
Um, I I don't, I like what Ilike and I don't

Carrie (15:37):
Yeah.

Kristine (15:37):
what I don't, Don't come at me if I don't want to.

Carrie (15:40):
And that's the nice thing about like on the weekends
we just talked about how we werehanging out or whatever.
It's never any pressure.
Like there's no obligation totalk to each other.
There's no obligation toentertain each other.
We're just there.
We're just existing in eachother's presence.
And it's fun.

Kristine (15:55):
We coexist,

Carrie (15:55):
we do.

Kristine (15:56):
One of my favorite things, this was last year,
summer.
Um, we were over at your houseand, uh, you went and had a bath
while we were over and I wentand sat on the loungers outside
And I read my book.
And the boys were doingwhatever, the chatting and the
girls were off doing something.
I think Scarlett was on our iPadand Brooke was somewhere else.

(16:19):
And that was it Just,

Carrie (16:20):
we were just coexisting,

Kristine (16:21):
and then when we were ready, we all kind of just
trickled back together.

Carrie (16:25):
Yeah.

Kristine (16:26):
And that's nice.

Carrie (16:27):
I went and had a bath.

Kristine (16:28):
Yeah.
And we don't have, if we don't,the obligation isn't there.
And that's what I like.
Yeah.

Carrie (16:33):
Because we're just coexisting in my house Yeah.
At that time.

Kristine (16:38):
And that's nice for us.

Carrie (16:39):
Yeah.

Kristine (16:39):
I hope to, I hope that somebody, I hope you guys all

Carrie (16:43):
have that,

Kristine (16:44):
have that with It's

Carrie (16:45):
very nice

Kristine (16:45):
with somebody.

Carrie (16:46):
It is so cool.

Kristine (16:47):
Not even, it doesn't have to be a best friend, but I
hope you have that person, likea spouse or a relative or
something that you could justcoexist and be you and not feel
obligated.
and just be there.

Carrie (17:00):
It's so nice.
It's one of those things that Ijust value so much.
Like if we were to hang out andwe just didn't wanna talk, we
would just sit there.

Kristine (17:07):
Oh yeah.
Sometimes in the car you get incuz I drive to work 99% of the
time you get in the car and likesometimes you just pick up your
phone and do whatever you do onyour phone.
And I don't even say a word, nowet talk to we to spend all day
together.
We do.
We don't need need to talk ahundred percent of the time.
We do.

Carrie (17:23):
We do.
I'm, yeah, we don't have to

Kristine (17:26):
The podcast.
but we don't have to.

Carrie (17:28):
No, No.
So I think, I think boundariesare so important.

Kristine (17:33):
Yeah.
Back to that.

Carrie (17:34):
Well, and it all kind of flows into each other cuz we
have that boundary set.
Mm-hmm.
Like sometimes I will just sayno or I'll be like, well we can
hang out but I don't wanna talkto you.

Kristine (17:43):
Yeah.
There's a couple times Carriewill invite me over for dinner,
like the guys are off doingsomething like a hockey game or
something.
We'll have dinner and we'll justbring our books.

Carrie (17:53):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (17:53):
And the girls will go play and we'll sit on the couch
and read.

Carrie (17:56):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (17:56):
And.

Carrie (17:56):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (17:57):
It's like I live there, but I don't,

Carrie (17:58):
boundaries just make them in your life.
That's, that's step one.
I think

Kristine (18:03):
sticking to it too is hard.

Carrie (18:05):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (18:05):
It's hard, but once you do it a few times, it is, it
feels so good.

Carrie (18:10):
That's what I mean, like,

Kristine (18:11):
free is a bird.

Carrie (18:11):
I get that.
It's easier said than done, butonce you do it, it's

Kristine (18:15):
just say no.

Carrie (18:16):
Just say no.
Yeah.
And so that's, that's been ourbiggest change and our biggest
step forward, I think, is justlearning how to say no.
Yeah.
And I,

Kristine (18:24):
it helps, you know.
I do.
It does.
And then, I mean, the otherthings in our life is we take
Fridays off now.
And I know not everyone has thatluxury.
I do understand that.
But being able to just have aday where you can get whatever
you need to done or don't doanything.
Yep.
And you and I still, I mean, I'mstill very tuned into what's

(18:47):
happening at work when I'm nothere, but we have that luxury
now that we have an amazing, um,staff that we don't have to Yep.
Sometimes I will text Carrie andbe like, Hey, what the heck
happened today?
Because like, I didn't botherlooking at my phone.

Carrie (19:04):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (19:04):
Or I, I needed a, a day.
Yeah.
Not just the weekend, but Ineeded a, a spare day Yeah.
Just to shut it off.
And I'm like, can you, whathappened today?
Are we, like, we're keeping thelights on today or what?
And uh, and I think that is oneof the most

Carrie (19:18):
mm-hmm.

Kristine (19:19):
Special things that we have about our business.
It is so nice that we can

Carrie (19:23):
mm-hmm.

Kristine (19:24):
Afford to do that.
And it is good because we havebeen in business for almost
eight years now.
Mm-hmm.
And eight years, every single

Carrie (19:31):
24

Kristine (19:32):
day.
That is a huge undertaking andwe didn't expect this.

Carrie (19:37):
No.

Kristine (19:38):
So to have that opportunity to shut it off, shut
your notifications off.

Carrie (19:44):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (19:44):
For a day is one of the most beautiful boundaries
we've ever had.

Carrie (19:48):
On Friday, I put my phone on the charger and I just
walked away and I just neverlooked at it again for like two
hours.

Kristine (19:53):
And how did that feel like?

Carrie (19:55):
So good.
So good.
But at the end I was like, wow,I wonder what happened.
Nothing, newsflash, nothing.

Kristine (20:00):
And if something does happen, we will know about it.

Carrie (20:03):
But you know what's amazing here?
We don't save lives.

Kristine (20:06):
No.

Carrie (20:06):
Like, we're not here saving lives.

Kristine (20:08):
No.

Carrie (20:08):
Like we sell clothes and it's important and I love it,
but we're not, you know, wedon't handle organ's downstairs.
We're not,

Kristine (20:16):
if we did,

Carrie (20:17):
that would get weird.

Kristine (20:17):
Should run.

Carrie (20:18):
Yeah.
So like, we're not saving liveshere.
And you have to remember that.
I think sometimes it's veryimportant

Kristine (20:25):
and yeah.
Things that do go awry obviouslyis very important.
But yeah, thinking you said thatto me one day.

Carrie (20:32):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (20:33):
It was years ago.
We were at the old warehouse.
We only had the one bay it wasin the first Three years work.

Carrie (20:38):
2018 probably.

Kristine (20:39):
Yeah.
Um, I had a bad day.
I had a bad, bad day.
It was just Andrea and I at thatpoint.
Yeah.
I think you were in Phoenix.
Things were just going, everysingle thing was wrong.
And you text me and you're like,We are not surgeons.
You are not saving the day.
Shut up, relax, sit down.
And I was like, okay, okay.
We are not saving lives.
We're not.
And I said it out loud toAndrea, and I'm sure she'll

(21:01):
remember this because it was abad day for us.
And, uh, she's like, she'sright.
And I'm like, she's right.
Let's not tell her right now.
She's right.
But it, that helps because it,with I just a person with really
bad anxiety, you need to kind ofrealize mm-hmm.
That these things are not goingto make or break a person.

Carrie (21:21):
No.

Kristine (21:22):
It's just clothing.

Carrie (21:23):
No, and it's important.
Obviously, we wanna keep peoplehappy.

Kristine (21:26):
Of course.

Carrie (21:26):
And things like that are important.
We pay bills, we pay otherpeople's bills.
We, it's, it is important, butat the end of the day, we're not
saving lives.

Kristine (21:35):
Saving lives.

Carrie (21:36):
Yeah.
We're not killing people.
Like we're not, we're not doingany of that.

Kristine (21:40):
Yeah.
It's one of those things thatI'll always remember though.
Mm-hmm.
Because I still continue tothink about it mm-hmm.
When I have like a bad day.
Mm-hmm.
Like you were not Derek Shepherdhere.

Carrie (21:47):
Nope.
Just, which is good because youwould've broke the pack because

Kristine (21:51):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would've broke the pack.
Yeah.
No, he, uh, you know, I'm notsaving lives.
Mm-hmm.
I am just packing an order.
Mm-hmm.
I was just doing inventory and Icouldn't count that day.

Carrie (22:01):
Yeah.
And it's, it's just puttingthings into perspective.

Kristine (22:05):
I hope you guys are liking listening to this and
realizing that.
Everything is not sunshine andrainbow.
It's what you see on no on, uh,social media because you guys
had no idea that, that one day Iwanted to walk out mm-hmm.
And was like, I'm done.
Cuz I was just having such a badday day.

Carrie (22:20):
So, and that happens so often.
Way more than you would expect,I think.
Mm-hmm.
Last year, like I mentioned, wasa really, really bad year for
me.
Really hard for me, likementally.
Yeah.
And there was just so, thankGod, thank God I have a business
partner.
Cause there were so many dayswhere I would just look at
Kristine and be like, I cannottoday.
And she's like, go lay down.
We have a couch.
We like to lay down sometimes

Kristine (22:41):
I just did the other day,

Carrie (22:42):
she's like, just go lay down.
And I'm like, okay.
Because sometimes you just, orshe's like, let's go, let's
leave.
We have nothing else to dotoday.
Let's leave.

Kristine (22:49):
Let's put take a nap in the Starbucks parking lot.
And we have done that multipletimes.
Our staff now knows.
Yeah.
They, they heard it just now wegot a secret.
We have a meeting at Starbucks.

Carrie (23:02):
Yes.
Seriously.
We would go grab a coffee, gopull into the back of the
Starbucks parking lot.
Mm-hmm.
Roll our seats all the way down,put our feet up and just lay
there for like 10 minutes.
Mm-hmm.
And just not talk and not haveto think about anything and just
shut it off.

Kristine (23:17):
It's so mentally exhausting.

Carrie (23:18):
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (23:19):
This job.
Mm-hmm.
I would never change it.

Carrie (23:21):
No.

Kristine (23:22):
I mean, there's things that I would now knowing mm-hmm.
More I would, you know, give myyounger self Yeah.
Some advice, but,

Carrie (23:31):
which is an episode all in itself.

Kristine (23:32):
I was just about to say, we need to write this shit
down.

Carrie (23:34):
It's, in our list.

Kristine (23:35):
Okay, good.
Um, what the heck was I saying?
I don't know.

Carrie (23:40):
There's things you would

Kristine (23:41):
Oh yeah, there's things that I would change, but.

Carrie (23:43):
You wouldn't change this?

Kristine (23:44):
I wouldn't change this no not a million years.

Carrie (23:46):
No.
I love our journey.

Kristine (23:47):
I can't believe we're here.
That's it still shocks me everysingle day.

Carrie (23:50):
Me too

Kristine (23:51):
Weird.

Carrie (23:52):
We so weird.

Kristine (23:53):
I have a couple teachers I wanna tell'em to suck
it.
They didn't, they wouldn't thinkI'm,

Carrie (23:59):
they didn't believe in you.

Kristine (23:59):
Nah.
They probably think I'm deadsomewhere to ditch.
Still kicking Mrs.
P.

Carrie (24:07):
And another thing that's totally helpful, which again I'm
aware that this is the luxurythat we have that not everyone
does have is we havestay-at-home husbands.

Kristine (24:15):
Oh my gosh.
It wasn't for them.
They are,

Carrie (24:19):
yes.

Kristine (24:19):
Amazing.

Carrie (24:20):
Yeah.
So I think it was about twoyears ago they both finally
Jayce quit up two years ago, Iguess.

Kristine (24:26):
Yeah.
In like

Carrie (24:26):
July.

Kristine (24:28):
Yeah, it was, uh, at the end of summer.

Carrie (24:31):
Yeah.

Kristine (24:31):
Uh, I think school was just around the corner and, um,
He came home on his last day andI, our neighbor Ryan, to babysit
Scarlett.

Carrie (24:41):
Yeah,

Kristine (24:41):
because we surprised Jayce at a

Carrie (24:43):
party.
Party in the backyard.
My A four.
Yeah.
The quad squad.

Kristine (24:46):
And, uh, so for context, so Jayce was, um, he
worked in the oil field and hewas gone a week at a time.
And that was really hard on us.
And I mean, us as in like thefour of us.
Mm-hmm.
The quad squad.
Oh, by the way, we have a namefor our group.
It's a quad squad.
Uh, just, you guys know whowe're talking about here.

Carrie (25:08):
Yeah.

Kristine (25:08):
And uh, it was really hard on all of us because we
would were together so often andthen Jayce would miss out on so
much.

Carrie (25:16):
Yes.

Kristine (25:16):
And, um, Scarlett and I had a hard time when he would
leave.
It was always like a.
I don't mean it in a bad way,but it was always an
interruption Of when he wouldcome home, because we'd finally
get our, like Our schedule and,um,

Carrie (25:29):
the routine,

Kristine (25:30):
routine down.
And then he would come home andthen we'd have to kind of figure
out how to do this again.
And then he would leave and itwould just, same thing over and
over again.
So Carrie and Nick and I beggedand pleaded Jayce every single
day for about a year.
Every day for a year.

Carrie (25:46):
And I made a presentation.

Kristine (25:47):
I was gonna say, Carrie made a present.

Carrie (25:49):
I did.

Kristine (25:50):
Uh, the PowerPoint was involved.
And it logistically made sensefor him to stop mm-hmm.
Working and out in the oilfield.
Yeah.
He does work for us now, but he,we needed him home.
We needed him home, not justselfishly.
But like logistically we neededhim home.

Carrie (26:11):
Yeah.
And it's, ugh.
Does he ever look back andthink, wow, I wish I would've
stayed?

Kristine (26:16):
No, he doesn't miss, uh, the work.
He misses some of his friends.

Carrie (26:20):
Of course,

Kristine (26:20):
you know, he made lot, a lot of lifelong friends, but
so he miss seeing them often.
Mm-hmm.
He doesn't miss living out inBonneville.
Um, he prefers it here.
Um, no, he doesn't miss going towork.
There's some times where hefeels like, okay, like, I need
a, a project here or something.
But yeah, he finds something.

Carrie (26:37):
I feel like they're just always busy.

Kristine (26:38):
Always busy.

Carrie (26:39):
There's always stuff going on.

Kristine (26:40):
Yeah.
I agree.
And they both have theirhobbies.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and so they keep themselvesbusy and they.
Are together.

Carrie (26:49):
Yeah.

Kristine (26:49):
So they keep them themselves.

Carrie (26:51):
Yeah.
So if they, I mean, especiallynow that it's nice out it's
summer, I'm sure there's gonnabe many pool afternoons or
whatever.
After they get everything elsedone.
And it's just so nice.

Kristine (27:01):
Yeah.
We have a really, um, we arevery fortunate to have them
home.
They, they cook, they clean,they pick up the kids, they take
care, they drive them, they care

Carrie (27:11):
everything.

Kristine (27:12):
Honestly, the only reason why I've cleaned clothes
is cuz my husband does it forme.
Yeah.
I've actually picked up doing alaundry lately.
I don't hate it.

Carrie (27:20):
It's fine.

Kristine (27:20):
I don't hate it as much as I thought I did.

Carrie (27:22):
I find if I do it more frequently, it's better.
It's when I have the mountainsthat I'm Yeah.
I just don't wanna do this.
Yeah.
So if I do it like once or twicea week and kind of keep up with
it, it's a lot better.

Kristine (27:33):
Yeah.
I agree.

Carrie (27:34):
But no, it's not awful.
Yeah.
It's fine.
Yeah.
So tho that's, I mean, that's ahuge part of work life balance
too.
Yeah.
Is the, those are things thatyou and I don't have to do.
But I get like, it'sprioritizing.
Yes.
You know, I, Friday I had theday off and I did laundry.

Kristine (27:51):
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
There's, um, it's, it's hardlyhard to say work-life balance,
like I said, it's just makingsense.

Carrie (27:58):
There is no such thing.

Kristine (27:59):
No, there's no,

Carrie (28:00):
and you just, you just have to accept that you are
never going to have everythingunder control.
There is always something thatis not gonna be under control
and you just have to accept it.
As hard as it is, this is comingfrom someone that is so insanely
type A.
Mm-hmm.
I.
I used to struggle with it alot, and once I realized that
there's just no possible way tohave every, everything under

(28:24):
control, things just got a lotbetter.
Mm-hmm.
And it's just what's the mostimportant at that time?

Kristine (28:30):
I agree with you a thousand percent.
I struggled a lot with anxietyand depression, and I think the
control factor was a big thingfor me.
Mm-hmm.
And then once I, like, I meanobviously I haven't let it go a
hundred percent, but once I leta lot of that go, I feel like I
have a lot more time to balancethose things out or, um, make

(28:56):
the space for everything I needin my life.

Carrie (28:59):
Yes.

Kristine (28:59):
Because I'm not sitting there panicking about
when I can do these things

Carrie (29:04):
Yeah.

Kristine (29:04):
Or how I can do them.
Granted, I still have a veryhard time if something is
scheduled in the middle of theday.

Carrie (29:09):
I know you do.

Kristine (29:09):
I still have a really hard time of.
Managing the rest of my day.

Carrie (29:15):
Yep.

Kristine (29:15):
So if I have, let's say I have a dentist appointment
in the middle of the day, I feellike I cannot p quite possibly
plan something else in themorning because I have something
at noon.
Mm-hmm.
And I don't know why that is andwhy I struggle with that.
Even something in the eveningthat I have a hard time figuring
my day out.
But again, that's just how I,

Carrie (29:33):
but being self-aware of that is so important.

Kristine (29:35):
Oh yeah.

Carrie (29:36):
Because then you can be like, Hey, no.
Yeah, you have four hours.
What can I get done betweeneight and 12?

Kristine (29:40):
Exactly.

Carrie (29:41):
These are the things I can do.
So that I don't have to do themafter.
Mm-hmm.
And that's one of the things Idid on Friday.
I knew I had my hairappointment.
Mm-hmm.
So I said, Hey, you have fivehours before your hair
appointment.
What can I do?
What can I do?
And I made a list and I just gotit done.
Mm-hmm.
Lists.
Mm-hmm.
I use my notepad on my com on myphone.
Yeah.
And I check'em off as they go.

Kristine (29:59):
They're so important.

Carrie (30:00):
It's just so important.
Yeah.
Just, you know, and anotherthing that has been big for me,
and I know it's been big for youtoo, is I used to be a night
owl, so I used to stay up tillmidnight, one o'clock and.
I don't know about you, butafter 10 o'clock, nothing I do
is productive.
No, no.
I'm just literally wasting mytime on my phone or watching tv.

(30:20):
That is not productive time.
And it's important because as amom or a business owner or
whatever, sometimes that timebetween 10 o'clock and one in
the morning is the only time youhave by yourself.
Mm-hmm.
And to do your own thing.
But I flipped it.
Yeah.
So now I go to bed at 10 at thelatest mm-hmm.
Is when I'm asleep and I get upat five.
And so now my alone time is nowsome It's productive.

Kristine (30:45):
Yes.
Huge.

Carrie (30:46):
Yeah.

Kristine (30:46):
And that was a big difference for me too.
Um, granted, I mean, there'sstill times sometimes where I do
stay up till Oh later than Ishould on Saturday night.

Carrie (30:56):
Yeah.

Kristine (30:56):
I stayed up till one o'clock watching my show cuz I
couldn't stop.

Carrie (31:00):
Yeah.

Kristine (31:00):
But then I slept until 10 o'clock the next day.
Like that was silly cuz like,yes.
I wanted to do things

Carrie (31:05):
because you could have been productive in, in the
morning.

Kristine (31:08):
Yep.

Carrie (31:08):
And yes, that alone time at night is so nice, but I am a
lot less stressed When I do theopposite and get up early in the
morning and get my stuff done.
Yeah.

Kristine (31:19):
it feels so good to get up.

Carrie (31:20):
It does

Kristine (31:20):
in the morning and just to get like, get to the gym
or get my run out of the way.
Yep.
Uh, and it also makes space andthe time for other things.
Mm-hmm.
Like our family.
Yes.
And like, um, you know, doinganother project or something
rather than wasting the time onsocial media.

Carrie (31:42):
Yeah.

Kristine (31:42):
Or scrolling through TikTok,

Carrie (31:44):
which is such a time suck.

Kristine (31:45):
Such a time suck.
Great.
It's like, it's

Carrie (31:47):
so much fun.

Kristine (31:47):
It's so much fun.
Yeah.
Like I would be nothing withoutJasper Doll on TikTok.
No nothing.

Carrie (31:52):
No.
Absolutely not.
But, You know, so after I go tothe gym, I come home, I sit and
have coffee by myself for halfan hour cuz I have enough time
in the morning and I, that'swhen I scroll on TikTok and
that's when I, you know, wastemy waste.
I say that in quotations.
Yeah.
Cause it's not actually wasting,but that's when I have that

(32:15):
time.
Instead of doing it at 11o'clock at night when I should
be sleeping.

Kristine (32:19):
And then you wake up the next day feeling bagged.

Carrie (32:21):
So bagged.
And I am, I am not good when I'mtired.
Kristine is even worse.

Kristine (32:28):
I was not, and like I said, I stayed up a sat Saturday
till 1 1 30 and then Sunday Iwas a complete Yeah.
Like, I was not a nice person.
Nope.
So I needed, I need to, the flipis definitely, um, one of the
biggest things.
Mm-hmm.
And one of the best things I'vedone for myself.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I'm sure you could say thesame.

Carrie (32:47):
Yeah, absolutely.

Kristine (32:48):
What a, what a game changer that was.
Mm-hmm.
That is definitely like, I wouldsay, I don't know.

Carrie (32:54):
Top two top.

Kristine (32:55):
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Top two.
Top two for sure.
And the biggest changes and thepositive changes we've made.
Mm-hmm.
To make this balance.
I use that in quotations.
Yeah.
Work.

Carrie (33:05):
And if you do end up trying to switch your schedule
to going to bed earlier andgetting up earlier for the first
couple weeks, you're just tired.
Yep.
Like, that's just it.
You're just, you're tired.
Come two o'clock in theafternoon, you're, you're like,
will this ever end?
But it does.

Kristine (33:23):
And apparently there was a study at 21 days.
It takes 21 days to make ahabit.
Mm-hmm.
So don't give up after the firstweek.
Don't give up a the second week.
Don't give up after that thirdweek.
Let it go until you're literallylike, Let it ride until you hit
that 21 days and then reassess.
Because I, if I can do this, ifI can do,

Carrie (33:44):
she's not lying.

Kristine (33:45):
If I can do a morning thing, you can do the morning
thing.
I have my 34, I'm gonna say 34.
And now that I'm 35, I can say34 years of my whole life, I was
not a morning person.
I was a horrible person, ahorrible human being.

Carrie (34:02):
Don't wake her up.

Kristine (34:02):
Don't wake me up.

Carrie (34:03):
I still don't wake her up.

Kristine (34:04):
I've, I've punched a bitch before I have, I swore at
my uncle Kevin.
He never lets me live that down.
Yeah.
Told him to fuck off and it'sbeen 15 years.
Mm-hmm.
I was not a good person.
But if I can make this switchand it actually made a positive
impact, you can do it.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm not saying you have to.
No.
If it doesn't work for you, itdoesn't work.

Carrie (34:23):
Absolutely not.

Kristine (34:24):
But it's something that, um, Carrie and I both made
a change, and it is such a big.
Positive impact.
The, the worst on everything.

Carrie (34:31):
The worst thing is, and I know cuz he's not gonna listen
to this episode, so I can sayit.
Nick has, my husband has beentelling me to do this for 15
years.
He, he is a morning person, ourentire relationship.
He's gotten up at five 30 or sixin the morning and he has been
telling me our wholerelationship how much better it
is when you get up early and I'mlike, Ugh, whatever.

(34:52):
I love, I'm a night owl, I likenight.
And now that I've made theswitch, I don't wanna tell him.
But he's been right the wholetime.
Yeah.

Kristine (34:59):
If you are struggling with uh, uh, the, I hate using
the word balance, that work-lifebalance,

Carrie (35:04):
there's no such thing.

Kristine (35:05):
Um, try this out.
Just give it a shot.

Carrie (35:08):
Just give it a shot

Kristine (35:08):
and then let us know.
Like literally send us a messageon Instagram and, and let us
know if it worked for you.
Yeah.
Cause it is, um, I wanna know.
It is, and I'm not.

Carrie (35:19):
Sorry.

Kristine (35:20):
No, go ahead.

Carrie (35:20):
And I'm not saying you need to get up and go to the
gym.

Kristine (35:22):
Oh God no.

Carrie (35:23):
You can get up and just have that hour by yourself.
Yes.
Maybe you read a book, maybe youwatch a show.
But I promise you, when you getup in the morning and start
getting used to it, you're gonnawanna do something else.
You're going to, maybe you gofor a walk, maybe you like
invest in a walking pad maybebecause maybe you can't leave
the house and go work out.
Mm-hmm.
Which is fair cuz not everyonecan, has that luxury to leave.

(35:43):
Maybe you, maybe you do startwalking, maybe you make your
food for the day or you read abook or you know, something.
Just even just for yourself

Kristine (35:52):
getting up and getting yourself dressed.
Um, Early and like preparingyour day.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Is such a game changer.
Yep.
Like that's what they do onCougar Town.
Mm-hmm.
That's how they got coffee crew.

Carrie (36:07):
Oh, coffee crew.

Kristine (36:07):
Coffee crew.
That's how they do it.
They get up.
Those people are up at fouro'clock, five o'clock in the
morning, get

Carrie (36:15):
Also having time to have coffee before work.

Kristine (36:16):
Honestly, if you haven't watched Cougar Town, I
highly recommended it.
It's one of our favorite shows.
So good.
Yeah.
Um, that's how they do it.
That's how they do it.
In the TV shows, they don't showthat.

Carrie (36:25):
No.

Kristine (36:26):
But those gals are up at five o'clock in the morning
to be getting ready.

Carrie (36:29):
How else are you having coffee crew?
Because you and I used to trycoffee crew.
We were just late for work.

Kristine (36:34):
Yeah.
We would have coffee crew at10:00 AM It was nice.

Carrie (36:39):
It was but we were always late.

Kristine (36:40):
Yeah.
We knew.

Carrie (36:41):
Yeah.
We were showing up here way toolate.

Kristine (36:43):
Yeah.
Sarah be like, okay, you guys,so where are you?

Carrie (36:46):
Like, swear, we're coming.
We're just having coffee crew.
Yeah.

Kristine (36:49):
It was really nice to compete in the morning.

Carrie (36:52):
It was.
It was, but it's not realistic.
No.

Kristine (36:54):
So, no, I, yeah.
I don't know if we actuallyever, well, we did kind of touch
on how we do the balancing.
We just went around it and wedid really roundabout way.

Carrie (37:05):
We talked about what we made important.
Yeah.
And I, I said, you just have toaccept that there's just no such
thing.
Yeah.
And you need to prioritize.
And I guess we haven't talkedabout family time and how

Kristine (37:17):
we squeezed that in there.

Carrie (37:18):
We did, because I would say when we first started our
business, first of all, ourhusband's absolutely loathed it
because it definitely took a lotof our time away.
Mm-hmm.
I found myself, especially inthe first couple years, always
working.
Mm-hmm.
You know, I'd always be on myphone or my laptop working.
And our kids were young enoughat that time that it was easy to

(37:39):
make that work because they werejust blobs.
Yeah.
Right.
Like they were just blobs.
So if I'm sitting next to youholding a toy, or I'm sitting
next to you typing on mycomputer, they really have no
idea.
But as they started to get oldermm-hmm.
It started to become harder andhearing them be like, oh, you're
working again.
Mm-hmm.
Like, yes.

(38:00):
And I am.
Yeah.
Like that just cuts you deep,you know?
Yeah.
And so now, When I get home fromwork, I really try to be present
from, you know, usually Brookegets home from her activities at
five or five 30.
So from that point until seven30 or seven, it's like, let's do

(38:22):
family time every night we playcards, we play Uno or Skip Bo
yeah.
You know, we kind of have justlike our traditions that we do
every night, or we'll watch a,like part of a movie together or
whatever.
It's just designating that timewithout your phone mm-hmm.
That you have to do.
Yeah.
And it's just making that partof your schedule.
I agree.
It's, it's routine.

Kristine (38:42):
It is routine.
It's the routine and itdefinitely, it was hard to do it
and I, it was, it, it sucks tosay that it was hard to make
that time or make thatadjustment.
Yes.
But it was difficult because wealways.
Had our, like those tasks that,or those things that we had to
look at and et cetera.
But, um, to just keep in mind,okay, put your phone down and

(39:04):
you can look at it later, likemm-hmm.
She's going to bed here in anhour.
Mm-hmm.
Put your phone on.
You can look at it later.
It was something that it washard to remind yourself of.

Carrie (39:11):
It was especially earlier in our business, when it
was just you and me.
Yeah.
It was just us.
There wasn't, there wasn't, oh,I'll just ask so-and-so to do it
tomorrow.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, there it was just me andme.

Kristine (39:23):
Exactly.
So that was definitely hard.
Um mm-hmm.
Especially with making sure thatour launches were Yeah.
Done appropriately and they wereon and uh, everything was good
to go with them.
Those, I mean, launch times wereare still one o'clock and eight
o'clock, but like that sitsright at bedtime, right?
Mm-hmm.
So it was like, okay, um, I'mgoing to read you a storybook,

(39:44):
but in two minutes I need tocheck to see if the launch is
gone online.
Online and like, or just gimme asecond.
I have to push it online.
Cause at that point we did.
Yeah.

Carrie (39:52):
We had to manually put everything online.

Kristine (39:54):
So it was, yeah, it was definitely an adjustment.
But once we kind of made thatdecision and we had the people
that were helping us in thebackground, yeah, it was an
easier, um, thing to do.
While back we did, um, unpluggedSundays.
That was a big change for us.
That felt good.
Um, unplugged Sundays were, wejust did not check social media.

(40:17):
We did not check.

Carrie (40:18):
No.

Kristine (40:19):
Um, how our sales were going for that day.
We just let it be unless we hada launch that day.
Then obviously we had to workwith that, but that definitely
was a good stepping stone instepping back and giving, um,
our family the time that they

Carrie (40:34):
deserve.

Kristine (40:35):
Definitely deserve,

Carrie (40:36):
yeah.

Kristine (40:36):
And desperately needed from us.

Carrie (40:37):
Yeah.
And I don't ever wanna be, youknow, 55 years old and looking
back and being like, wow, Ispent my entire thirties working
on my phone.

Kristine (40:46):
Yeah.
Like, I missed your childhoodbecause I was working.

Carrie (40:49):
Yeah.
And I don't feel, I don't feellike that.
No.
I've never, you know, there,there hasn't even been any
moments that I look back and I'mlike, Hmm.
I feel like I could have donebetter.
I feel like we've done a really,really good job and it's just
getting better.
I agree and unplugged Sundayswas great.
I mean, I now, because we'vetaken such a big step back, I
feel like it's not as big of adeal, but it, at the time it was

(41:11):
so important.

Kristine (41:11):
Yeah.
And some, like on the weekends,I'll look at it.

Carrie (41:15):
Yeah.

Kristine (41:15):
But I will look at it very, very seldomly com.

Carrie (41:19):
Yeah.

Kristine (41:19):
Compared to what I do during the week.
But I think that our customersand people know that.
Mm-hmm.
It's the freaking weekend and

Carrie (41:26):
yeah.

Kristine (41:26):
We also deserve that time.

Carrie (41:27):
Yeah.

Kristine (41:28):
Um, and when I look at my phone or if I'm looking at
our social media, it just, my,to my family looks like I'm just
happened to pick up my phone atthat time.

Carrie (41:36):
Yes.

Kristine (41:36):
It's not like that.
Yes.
Oh look, mummy's working again.

Carrie (41:38):
Yeah.

Kristine (41:39):
Which is a huge difference.

Carrie (41:40):
Yeah.
Really big difference.
Yeah.
And because you and I, I don'thave, just so everyone knows,
for the longest time, Kristineand I did all of our own
customer service.
I don't have a customer serviceemail on my phone.

Kristine (41:51):
No.

Carrie (41:51):
I don't have like Facebook Messenger on my phone
anymore.
I don't have any of our customerservice platforms on my phone,
so I don't even have the optionto look at it.

Kristine (42:00):
Yeah.
Which so nice.
Such a nice, I somehow, I havethe storefront Facebook page on
my phone.
But I don't know how thathappened.
I, I have no clue how it endedup on my phone.

Carrie (42:11):
You should just turned off the notifications.

Kristine (42:13):
No, it's like on my Facebook, like I can Oh, mine is
too Toggle between two.

Carrie (42:17):
Mine is two.

Kristine (42:17):
How did it ha How did that happen?

Carrie (42:19):
Yeah.
I can show you.
Turn the notifications off.

Kristine (42:20):
Thank you.
Um.
Yeah.
So, but now we are also justlike very good at schedule, not
scheduling, but planning ourfamily time.
And appreciating that familytime.
Like we went away to Canmore andwe made sure it was just, uh,
the mm-hmm.
Six of us and

Carrie (42:36):
six of best friends and that was really the quad squad
and kids.

Kristine (42:39):
And we travel a lot and we make sure that we like
mm-hmm.
You know, we have that mm-hmm.
That family time.
And we also are very, um, vocalwith, if we do have to work for
a little bit when we're on,let's say a quick holiday or
something, um, our husbands andfamily are, they're very
accepting of that.

Carrie (42:56):
Yeah.

Kristine (42:56):
And they understand that like, okay, we have to work
for an hour, but the rest of itis yours.
Yeah.
Like, it is family time, butthis one hour.
And they'll, they're totallyfine with that.

Carrie (43:05):
I always say like, it is impossible for us even long
haul, especially long holidays.
Yes.
Like, we can't go away for fiveor six weeks and not work.
So you just possible you have toallow us that hour or two or
three hours.
Throughout the day that we'regoing to work.
Mm-hmm.
So that we can have this wholevacation together.

Kristine (43:22):
Yeah.
I would say being vocal about itis, uh, another game changer for
us.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, letting everybody awareYeah.
That, you know, I need a, I needa minute mm-hmm.
In a little bit.
And when it comes to, just letme have that time.
Yeah.
So I can make sure I get it donewithout any hiccups.
And then I'm all yours.
All yours, baby.

Carrie (43:43):
Then you're gonna have me.
But that again, it goes aroundto boundaries.

Kristine (43:50):
She made a face, you guys,

Carrie (43:51):
I did see it.
um, it is just all, it all stemsback to boundaries in your life.
And I just think it is soimportant to set them, set them
with your spouse, set them withyour kids.
Set them with yourself.

Kristine (44:03):
Yes.

Carrie (44:04):
And then, I mean, you have to decide who's important.
Mm-hmm.
You really do.
You have to prioritize people inyour life too.
Mm-hmm.
I, I'm not one of those peoplethat can have two dozen friends.

Kristine (44:16):
No,

Carrie (44:17):
I, cuz I could never give two dozen people the time
they deserve.

Kristine (44:21):
No, I agree.
I'm like that too.
Like, I definitely, like, I havea good handful of friends, but
I, it's not, uh, as close as weare because

Carrie (44:30):
No, of course.
Um, I just, well,

Kristine (44:32):
I would hope that, like you said, like you said, we
don't, sorry, I have to take mysweater off.
I'm boiling.
Um, I don't have that time andthat space.
No, but they accept that too.
Yeah.
And I think it's importantfinding those people that
understand.

Carrie (44:44):
Yeah.
I was just talking someone thisweekend and I'm like, I'm sorry
I've been such a bad friendlately.
I just, I've just been busy.
Yeah.
And she was like, oh, same.
Yeah.
we'll catch up later.

Kristine (44:54):
Yeah.
Didn't even know that you werebusy.
Like I was just doing my ownthing.
I was also busy.

Carrie (44:57):
Yeah.
Because, but that's adulthood, Iguess.
Yeah.
But finding those friends thatunderstand that and can accept
that.
But I still don't have two dozenfriends.

Kristine (45:07):
Being an adult hard.

Carrie (45:08):
It really is.

Kristine (45:09):
How was that?
Trying to find people, nottrying to find people, but
inviting people to my birthdayparty.

Carrie (45:14):
Easy.

Kristine (45:15):
Yeah.

Carrie (45:15):
Yeah.

Kristine (45:16):
Apparently I'm a social butterfly.

Carrie (45:17):
There was a lot of people there.

Kristine (45:19):
There was a lot of people.

Carrie (45:20):
There was.

Kristine (45:22):
And I seeing them in one place, it was weird.

Carrie (45:26):
Right.
So weird.
It is.

Kristine (45:27):
Because you're all like different from different
corners of my life.
Yep.
Um, and then to have them all inone room.
Mm-hmm.
I was like, holy shit.
Like, like this is a lot ofpeople.

Carrie (45:37):
Yeah.

Kristine (45:37):
Yeah.
And I also like, I was like,okay, who do I talk to?
Who do I, okay.
I'm gonna give you 10 minutesand I'm gonna go over there.
I'm gonna talk to Susie.
Give her 10 minutes too.
Okay.
Like it was, yeah.
That was a lot.
That was really cool though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was a lot of fun.
Um, if you don't know Carrie,um, and jayce and Nick they, uh,
they threw me a surprisebirthday party for my 35th
birthday.
That was really cool.

(45:58):
I cried.
It was really cool.

Carrie (46:00):
As you do,

Kristine (46:01):
as I do.
Yeah.
It was, yeah, the coolest thing.
I knew that something wasplanned, but I didn't know like
what was planned or like where,when I was just,

Carrie (46:08):
or who,

Kristine (46:09):
yeah.
No, I had no idea.

Carrie (46:09):
Could have just been the, it could have just been the
quad.

Kristine (46:12):
I, I assumed it was, I assumed that we were just, I
don't know, go for dinner orsomething.
Mm-hmm.
But I was told that I needed tobe home at this time and that I
did not need to worry aboutclothing and that my clothing
was gonna be planned for me.
And I was like, what if I'mhaving like a, Day.
Yeah.
Like, I don't feel good in myclothes,

Carrie (46:32):
but don't worry, I had 18 options for you.

Kristine (46:34):
Yes.
And Jayce is like, ok calm down.
You're fine.
It's figured out.
And I'm like, what does thateven mean?
And then it came down to the dayand uh, I was home at the
appropriate time and Carrieshowed up with armfuls of
clothes.
Mm-hmm.
Like, and I mean, armfuls, Ithink there was six different
outfits complete.
Six to eight?

Carrie (46:54):
Yeah, something like that.

Kristine (46:55):
Complete outfits, like complete two jewelry, well,

Carrie (46:57):
probably six complete.
Yeah.
And then, and then there wasoptions within those outfits.

Kristine (47:01):
Yeah.
So, and then, so yeah, I gotdressed and then I was like kind
of digging for information.
Like when we were leaving I waslike, do I need my purse?
And Jayce's like, no.
I'm like, what about an id?
And he's like, no.
And I'm like, okay, so we're notgoing too far.
You're not gonna ID me?
Are you saying I'm old?

(47:22):
Then he is like, K Hop in thetruck.
And I'm like, well, where thehell are we going?
Like, where are we driving too?

Carrie (47:27):
Just down the road.
Yeah.

Kristine (47:28):
And then he like, okay, get out.
It's like two seconds later.
Mm-hmm.
We're on their driveway.
It was so funny.
And I walked in and the wholeplace is like decked out neon.
It was So find yourself a friendthat will throw you a party.
Full of bright colors.

Carrie (47:42):
Right?
Yeah.

Kristine (47:43):
It was really cool.
Yeah, that

Carrie (47:44):
and I, I, I did tell her that was the last party I'm
throwing.

Kristine (47:48):
That's it.
And to be clear on how they didthe surprise was the perfect way
to do it for myself.
Mm-hmm.
Um, they did not surprise mewith everybody there already.
No.
They came in after I was alreadyin.
Yes.
So, um, who the first one toshow up was Andrea.
Mm-hmm.
And Max.
Yeah.
And then it just, friendsstarted just rolling in after.

(48:10):
Yeah.
And that was a good way to doit.
It wasn't a one time overwhelmsituation.

Carrie (48:14):
I didn't wanna do that to you.

Kristine (48:15):
I think I would've been too sweaty.

Carrie (48:17):
I think, I just think that's sensory overload for you.
It

Kristine (48:19):
Oh yeah.

Carrie (48:20):
That was, that's just a lot.
It gave me enough time, which Ireally liked the way it
happened.
It gave me enough time to, um,like say hello and greet them
mm-hmm.
Appropriately and like give themmy time.
Mm-hmm.
Cuz I'm not, I.
Spreading my time out.
Mm-hmm.
Is hard.
Mm-hmm.
So that was really nice.
I like that way that it wasdone.
Yeah.
Good job.

(48:40):
10 outta 10.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Anything or

Kristine (48:42):
applause button.

Carrie (48:43):
Oh,

Kristine (48:45):
good job Carrie.
Good job.

Carrie (48:49):
Oh, I wanted it on the rob of applause apparently.
Um, yeah,

Kristine (48:56):
it was good.
Good job.

Carrie (48:56):
It was really good.

Kristine (48:57):
I like how we were talking about balancing things
and we had a party.
Oh, that was so much fun though,you guys.
I got some good gifts.

Carrie (49:07):
You did.
You did.
It was so fun.
And that's also why I wanted youto show up to the party early,
like before people came so thatyou could take in the party.
Yeah.
You could take in the decor,take in the whole thing and you
know, wrap your head aroundthat.

Kristine (49:21):
That was a lot of fun.
Yeah.
It was so beautiful.
It was so decked out.
You guys went, you guys did areally good job.
Do you wanna talk about thecake?

Carrie (49:29):
No.
Okay, so

Kristine (49:32):
I, this is, I love this story.

Carrie (49:33):
It is, it's great.
It's funny.
And if it didn't work out theway it did, it still would've
been funny.
Yeah.
But I would've felt like a bagof shit.
Um, so the night before theparty, I texted our cake lady
and I was just like, Hey, is itokay if Jayce picks up the cake
tomorrow at noon?
And then I went to bed and Ichecked my phone in the morning

(49:54):
and she said, um, you actuallyordered the cake for Sunday, not
Saturday.
Cue all the panic.
All the panic.
Because I was so organized forthis party.
I had it down to like a, like, Ihad your outfits planned to like
the accessory.
And I fucked up the cake.
And I texted her back in like,you should have read it.

(50:16):
It was like, oh my God.
Oh my God, I totally fucked thisup.
What am I gonna do?
The party is, today I have 20people coming to my house and I
have no cake.
Can you please help me out?
Is there any way you can make ittoday?
I'll pay you double.
Like I was going crazy.
And she probably read it and shewas like, oh, this lady's kind
of a psycho.
But she ended up making it workfor me somehow.

(50:37):
And I was, Jayce is texting meand he's like, is it okay if I
pick it up at noon today?
And I wasn't answering himright, of course.
And he was wondering what theheck I was doing.
Yeah.
And it's because I was waitingto find an answer because I
didn't wanna tell Jayce I fuckedup the cake

Kristine (50:53):
So funny though.
But even if it didn't, like ifthe cake didn't work out, the
it, everything was so perfect, Iwouldn't even like notice the
cake was missing, but and

Carrie (51:03):
And you would've laughed.
Yeah.
And been like, yeah, that'ssomething I would do.
Whatever.

Kristine (51:06):
Yeah, totally.

Carrie (51:07):
It, you and I are not that person that we would've
gotten upset or mad, but like Iwas annoyed because I Of course
was so organized.
Yeah.
I felt, of course, So prepared.
Yeah.

Kristine (51:17):
But of course, one thing had to be,

Carrie (51:18):
of course, the,

Kristine (51:19):
this thing that just slipped.
Right.
But it was so good.
Mm-hmm.
That was like, that wasdelicious.

Carrie (51:23):
It was amazing.

Kristine (51:24):
Yeah.
10 out of 10, five.

Carrie (51:25):
We really got off topic here.

Kristine (51:26):
We sure did.
I was just thinking about them.
Holy crap.
We, yeah.
We're not very good at this.

Carrie (51:30):
No.
But I think we coveredeverything we wanted to say
about balancing.
I really think everyone, I'm,I'm hopping back to that.
You just need to give yourselfgrace.
It's so important to just giveyourself grace and realize that
no matter what, no matter whatyou see from the outside,
especially of Kristine andmyself, we are not put together,
we are not very organized.

(51:52):
We have really bad days often.
Mm-hmm.
And you need to know that noone's perfect.
And what you see of our lives isdefinitely a big old highlight
reel and.
We do have bad days and we dohave days where we don't feel
like we can do it all and wedon't do it all.
Yeah.
So give yourself grace,especially if you're someone who

(52:13):
is doing everything yourself.
And we, we acknowledge that noteveryone gets Fridays off.
Not everyone has husbands thatstay home and can help them, but
you need to give yourself time,give yourself boundaries, and I
promise things will feel so muchbetter.
Mm-hmm.

Kristine (52:32):
Enjoy those little things.
Mm-hmm.
Don't let them slip away.
Mm-hmm.
Just enjoy it.
Even if it's five minutes toyourself mm-hmm.
While you're waiting in theStarbucks drive-through.
Just enjoy it.
Yes.
Um, enjoy those big things thathappen, whether it be a birthday
party, um, just like Carriesaid, gave yourself that grace
and when you do have thosemoments that you can really be

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in it and enjoy it.
Mm-hmm.
Sit back, do it.
Look at it.
Mm-hmm.
Stop for a second.
Just take a step back andliterally look at.
What's happening in your lifefeels,

Carrie (53:05):
and I think we've talked,

Kristine (53:06):
it feels good.
I think we talked about thislast episode actually, how you
and I love when we do stuff,taking that step back, just the
two of us.
And like holding each other.
Holding each other and reallylooking at it.
Because it's so cool to takethat step back and look at
something, whether it'ssomething you've accomplished or
a moment you're in or that timeby yourself, like really look at

(53:29):
it.
Mm-hmm.
And appreciate it.
I agree.
And then, you know, andeverything else will come to
follow.

Carrie (53:36):
Yeah.
And just know that no one is asput together as they look on the
outside.
No, no.

Kristine (53:43):
I'm a hot mess.
I usually smell bad like 99% ofthe time.

Carrie (53:47):
And we cry a lot.
And we have, I love for us, wedo, and we have bad, bad days
and we have days where we don'twanna be here, where I don't
want to own a business.

Kristine (53:57):
Yeah.
That happens a lot.
And it's natural that that'sgonna happen.
Mm-hmm.
So like, whether you are a nurseor a teacher, a stay-at-home mom
or whatever, those bad days aregonna happen for literally every
single person.
So just mm-hmm.
Don't beat yourself up for it.
Mm-hmm.
Just accept that you're having abad day.
Yeah.
And tomorrow make a littlepositive change.

(54:21):
Yeah.
Uh, my daughter was having a badday the other day in the
morning.
Mm-hmm.
I told her all the story and Iasked her, I'm like, are you
having a bad day?
Are you having a bad moment?
Mm-hmm.
And she's like, I think I'mhaving a bad moment.
Don't make those moments.
Turn your day sour.
Mm-hmm.
Just try to pick yourself up.
Yep.

Carrie (54:40):
And focus on

Kristine (54:41):
something positive.
Mm-hmm.
And just ride.

Carrie (54:44):
Yeah.
And don't, don't feel bad ifyou're having a bad day and
you're like, I should appreciatethis more.
Mm-hmm.
Because sometimes for Kristineand I, when I say sometimes I
don't wanna own this business,it's not that I'm not grateful
for it.
And it's not that I don't valuewhere we're at, it's just some
days it sucks.
And it's okay to have a goodthing and not love it all the

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time.

Kristine (55:06):
If you loved it all the time, something's wrong with
you.

Carrie (55:08):
Yeah.
Like there's, that's Phony

Kristine (55:10):
it is phony.
That's just pretend.
Yeah.
And we're not about pretendinghere, like you said, everything
that we show on Instagram andblah, blah blah is a highlight
reel.

Carrie (55:20):
Definitely.
Okay.
If you have more questions aboutthis, don't ever hesitate to
send them on Instagram and wecan talk about it again.

Kristine (55:27):
Yeah, we'll bring, we're all about it.
We're all about it, that's forsure.

Carrie (55:30):
And Kristine and I are super transparent and we'll tell
you how it is.
We don't, we don't mind.

Kristine (55:36):
No, we don't mind at all.
Wow.
We did really good today.

Carrie (55:39):
I think we did.
We did.
So, uh, every episode we do thisthing that we love.
It is called Fuck Mary Kill.
And we give each other threepeople and we have to, uh, pick
one to do each of the actions.

Kristine (55:54):
Yeah.

Carrie (55:55):
Yeah.
Are you ready?

Kristine (55:56):
No.
Oh.

Carrie (55:58):
Can I give you mine or

Kristine (55:59):
Abso freaking lately?
You can.

Carrie (56:00):
Okay.
You ready?

Kristine (56:01):
Yeah.

Carrie (56:02):
Okay.
This is Fuck Mary Kill FriendsEdition.

Kristine (56:06):
Oh, that's on my list.

Carrie (56:08):
I like that.
Ross.
Yeah.
Chandler.
Joey.
Okay.
And go.

Kristine (56:13):
I think that I would.
Mm.

Carrie (56:18):
It's, yeah.

Kristine (56:20):
Mm.
I feel like I'd fuck Joey.
I think he knows what's goingon.

Carrie (56:25):
Absolutely.

Kristine (56:26):
Um, I would probably marry Chandler.
Yeah.
I think he would be a greathusband.
And we all know that Ross doesnot have a good track record.
No.
So I'm gonna kill him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's, that's probably whereI'd be at.
Yeah.
I feel good about that answer.
I'm lock that shit in.

Carrie (56:45):
Okay.
Good.
Locked in.

Kristine (56:47):
Okay.
I have one.
We're ready for you.
Yep.
Okay.
So we're gonna fuck Mary.
Kill, uh, Rihanna.
Oh, Beyonce.
Yep.
Selena Gomez.

Carrie (56:57):
I actually saw that earlier.
Did you Google it?

Kristine (57:00):
Yes.

Carrie (57:01):
I was also on those lists earlier.
Good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Beyonce.
Yeah.
Rihanna.
Selena Gomez.
ci, K, I would marry SelenaGomez.

Kristine (57:11):
Yeah.
She, mm-hmm.
I think she'd be a great wife.

Carrie (57:13):
I would fuck Rihanna.
Yeah.
And this is gonna becontroversial, but I would kill
Beyonce.
Yeah.
Okay.
I just, eh, she's fine.
She's great.
Yeah.
She's

Kristine (57:25):
great.
But I, I think I would, I thinkI would do the same.

Carrie (57:30):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I know lots of people loveBeyonce and not that I don't
like her.

Kristine (57:34):
No, she's great.
Love her.

Carrie (57:36):
Yeah.
I just think Riri would be I,mm-hmm.
Yeah, she's pretty fun.
I think

Kristine (57:41):
she would be a really fun time.

Carrie (57:43):
She would be.
So that's where I'm at.
Good.

Kristine (57:45):
Are you lock that in?

Carrie (57:46):
I locked it in.
Good.
I like how you typically havegiven me lists with women.
I

Kristine (57:53):
know I did.
Don't as well.

Carrie (57:56):
Like, are you?
Wow.

Kristine (57:58):
Am I insinuating anything?
No.

Carrie (57:59):
Are you gonna confuse people out there?
Perhaps?

Kristine (58:01):
You're probably already confused.

Carrie (58:02):
That's fine.
Yeah.
I'm happy with that.

Kristine (58:07):
Good.
We're looking that in.

Carrie (58:08):
And, you know, going forward we will also answer your
questions, um, if we have some,so send them via Instagram.

Kristine (58:16):
Please do.
Yeah.
I'm really excited for thatportion of our, of our podcast,
of our Yeah.

Carrie (58:20):
Where we can answer some of your questions.
What, what are you burning toknow?
Yeah, so just send them to usover on Instagram.
Uh, our handle is two Babespodcast.
And that's a two.
The number two, not t w o.
You can also check us out on ourwebsite at
www.twobabespodcast.com.
You can listen to our podcastthere as well.
We'll be dropping new episodesevery Thursday for you.

(58:42):
You can listen to them on yourfavorite podcast apps.

Kristine (58:45):
And before you guys go, guess what?
Next week is gonna be a reallygood episode.
We're gonna give you a littlesnippet.
What's happening there?
Um, on, so Thursday, we're, wehave

Carrie (58:54):
our first guest.

Kristine (58:55):
Yes.
We're so excited.
Are we gonna say who we're gonnahave?

Carrie (58:58):
Yeah.

Kristine (58:59):
We're gonna have Sarah.
Sarah is our operations managerhere at Lavender and Lace
Boutique, and she's going totalk about all sorts of things,
how she started.
Mm-hmm.
Um, her journey with being ourneighbor, office neighbor.
I think that's a journey initself.

Carrie (59:15):
And she's gonna talk about, um, how she manages 20
women.

Kristine (59:20):
Yes.

Carrie (59:21):
Because she does,

Kristine (59:22):
if you guys wanna talk about work-life balance, that's
who you wanna talk about itwith, because that mm-hmm.
She has a lot going on.
Yeah.
Between her kids sports andmanaging 20.
Plus women.
Mm-hmm.
That's who you want to talkabout, which is a challenge all
in itself, I can imagine.
Mm-hmm.
So we'll see you guys nextThursday.
Yeah.
Okay.
Have a great rest of your week,you guys.

(59:42):
All right.
Bye.
Bye.