Episode 6: You Are Enough

Hey Besties! Welcome to Episode 6 where we talk about our I Am Campaign. Why body positivity is so important to us, the struggles we face with confidence, and why this campaign means so much to us. 

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Episode Transcript

POD00064 (00:08):
Oh, hey, it's Christine.
And I'm Carrie.
And we're best friends and weare the owners of Lavender and
Lace Boutique, an online women'sboutique based outta Sure Park
Alberta.
Welcome to two Babes Podcast.
We are so excited about thisweek.
We are so excited.
It's a good one.
It really is.
We're jumping into episode six.
Okay, so let's kick it off withhow we usually do, um, the,

(00:29):
how's it going, Carrie?
What are you reading?
What are You watching?
What's going on in your life?
Yeah, so we just went to theNickelback concert this weekend.
Oh my God.
So much fun.
Fun.
It was so good.
We had such a good time.
So it was the quad this weekend.
Um, so Saturday we kind of spentthe whole day in the pool, hung
out.
The kids kinda were in and outof the pool doing their own

(00:51):
Yeah.
Thing.
But the four of us, we were inthe pool.
we were in the pool.
yeah.
Had some drinks.
Enjoyed that.
And then Wayne got ready and wewent for dinner, early dinner at
Joey's.
And, uh, then we went toNickelback.
That was so much fun.
It was such a good show.
I, I'm a huge Nickelback fan.
I always have been, even when itwasn't cool to like Nickelback.

(01:12):
And, uh, so I was really excitedto see them.
It's been quite some time sinceI saw them last, and honestly,
they put on such a good show.
You've seen them live?
Yeah.
Where?
Uh, I saw them once atCommonwealth and then I saw them
once at Nick and I, we didn't gotogether.
This was before we weretogether, but I'm thinking it
was at Rexall.

(01:32):
That's so cool.
Yeah, this was my third timeseeing them.
Wow.
Yeah.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
I, I, I like Nickelback.
I, like their music, but I'm notlike hardcore fan.
Mm-hmm.
so like, when everybody was likebopping and like stuff, and I
was like, oh my God, thesepeople are here.
like, they're here for it.
That's me.
Yeah.
It was So cool.
So that was my first time seeingthem, uh, live or like, Ever.

(01:54):
Um, and it was, it was awesome.
Yeah.
Such good music from what youcan remember.
Yeah, it was a little bit hazyhere and there.
I thank God for headlines in thenews.
Yeah, right.
TikTok.
Yeah.
Cause it was just a little, itwas some things I didn't
remember, but it was a lot offun.
Everybody was in such goodspirits.
Yeah, it was good.
There was like no fights in ourarea No.

(02:14):
Or anything.
No.
Like it was just a good timeand.
I loved, uh, the, the openingact, um, friendly Gilbert.
Oh, frick.
He is so hot.
Yeah.
And he is like, yes, Wowie.
Yes.
Um, that was a lot of fun for meand I really, I just had a good
time.
Yeah.
It was a really good show.

(02:34):
Yeah.
I, I'm back on the Twisted TeaTrain.
Do you remember when theybrought out the first opening
act and you and I looked at eachother?
Were like, who is this man?
Yeah.
Who was that?
John.
Josh.
Ross.
Ross.
Yeah.
We need to look that up.
Yeah.
They brought him out and I waslike, oh, we, wow.
We, cuz we missed the firstopening act.
Yeah.
we didn't catch it.
Um, but he was good, right?

(02:55):
Yeah.
From what I can remember in thatone part.
Yeah.
Josh, Josh Ross.
Josh Ross.
Josh Ross.
And he's Canadian.
Like Josh Ross Palo.
Stop it right now.
We missed that.
Excus a mo, sir.
Wow.
Like, wow.
He has a lot to talk about.
Okay, you guys, let's describehim.
So he is got really nice, like,kind of like shaggy ish hair.
Hair, hair.
Kind of like hockey hair, butnot as long.

(03:17):
Yeah.
Some stub, like, some like agood, like like five o'clock
shadow.
A little bit more than a fiveo'clock shadow.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Backwards hat In this photo.
Blue eyes.
He, he's got a baby face forsure.
How old is this boy?
Oh, let's go look before westart talking for 2 0 27.
Oh yeah, totally.
He's fine.
Oh yeah, he's, he's great.
Uh, yeah.
And he's got like this gorgeousjawline.
Yeah.
Like I, yeah.

(03:37):
Wow.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Hmm.
Yeah.
So he came on the stage and sangwith Bradley Gilbert at one
point and Nickle back.
Yeah.
They were all, all the whole,sorry.
I.
I gotta remind myself here, Ihad quite a few twisted teas,
beverage Ginos.
Yeah.
Yeah.
after the margaritas.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were singing that song.
You know, it's the, the faultyone.
That one.
Yeah.
One Margarita.

(03:58):
Margarita, yeah.
Yeah.
And then two and three and four.
None of that happened.
No, it's a myth.
And then I had twisted teasafter, uh, for a long time.
They made my tummy feel reallyupset.
But now I'm back on the TwistedTea train.
Yeah, you're back on the train.
Thank God.
Because it doesn't hurt.
There's nothing you like, like atwisted tea.
No, it's my favorite drink ofall time.
Mm-hmm.
Besides margaritas.
Mm-hmm.
So it was nice.
I'm very, very happy that, andpleased that I can handle it.

(04:21):
And yeah, it was a good, it wasa good, and then we had
McDonald's on the way home.
Yeah, we did.
Or I did.
I don't even know if you, I atehalf your cheeseburger.
Yeah, I ordered.
I couldn't find that.
Two cheeseburgers.
Two cheeseburgers.
It was just so unlike me, Idon't know why or what happened,
but I.
Speaking of on the way home, Imade best friends with the Uber
driver as I do always.
You guys every, I texted thegroup the next day and I was

(04:41):
like, you know what I love aboutus, the consistency.
Christine always sits in thefront on the way home and she
always makes besties with ourUber driver.
Yep.
Like gets his life story.
Mm-hmm.
Where are you from?
Tell the kids, tell, tell someall about you.
Yep.
And us.
He doesn't wanna know thatinformation.
He didn't give a fuck.
No.
But you told him anyways.
You played him Jonas's brothers.
He did not like it.
No.
He actually told me to turn itoff.

(05:02):
I was a little bit upset, butThat's okay.
I did download one of hisfavorite artists.
It's, um, a guy from, um, Kenya,did you say?
No?
Nope.
Um, No, it wasn't, it wasn'tKenya yet.
He wasn't from No, but eitherway, I downloaded one of the
artists and he gave me his lifestory about that guy and how he,
he actually, he's dead.

(05:22):
He's dead now.
And like just, I, I learned somuch and it played in my car the
next day and I was like, that'sso funny.
Stop it right now.
That's so funny.
Yeah, it was really good.
Jayce got really warm on thedrive home, took his shirt off
in the car, you guys, so I, Ialways have to sit in the middle
of the backseat because I getreally car sick.

(05:42):
Yeah.
So the middle I can see straightthrough the front.
So there's me in this small SUVsandwich in between Nick and
Jace.
Neither of them are small, like,like width wise.
Yeah.
So I'm just like, like the threeof them were sardine back there
and I was like passengerprincess up in the front talking
to this guy about everything andeveryone and like he knows

(06:04):
everything.
Yeah.
And those.
Poor.
My poor three friends in theback, like Jason sweating
bullets.
Carrie is like sandwiched, solike sardine style between the
two boys.
And Nick was just like cruising.
He didn't care.
He was just living the frickingdream.
He was just excited for hisMcDonald's.
Yeah.
I had nuggets.
I, uh, yeah, you did.

(06:24):
Yeah.
And then I, I ordered twocheeseburgers, which is so not
like me.
It's not, you're normally like aBig Mac gal at night.
Yeah.
I was like full.
I think I just because of howmany twisted teas I had.
Yeah.
Maybe out my tummy was gone.
I was, I, I think those nuggetsare the reason why I felt as
good as I did yesterday.
Good.
They really just like sealed thedeal for me.
Yeah.
I only had like half acheeseburger and then I brought

(06:45):
the other cheeseburger home, butI can't find it, so I'm a little
bit concerned.
It's okay.
It won't go bad.
I'm questioning if I ate itafter I brought it home and I
just don't recall.
Maybe.
Or I'll find a cheeseburgersomewhere stupid in three
months.
Yeah, that's which is alsopossible, but yeah.

(07:05):
Yeah, yeah.
That was a good time.
You know what, you would neverknow that I'm almost 40 by the
way we behave, but That's okay.
We, we live our best lives allthe time.
Um, and then honestly, Fridaywas a really good day for me to
get all my shit done.
We had a, like a, yeah, a LLBowners meeting in the morning
with the boys.
We had to do something onFriday.
On Friday.

(07:25):
Yeah.
Yeah.
We did.
We had a, a meeting.
We met.
It was, it was a meeting.
Yeah.
Um, we just had a planningmeeting in.
Yeah.
We just had to have a meetingabout 2020, the rest of 2023 and
then, uh, And then I just gotall my stuff done so that Sunday

(07:46):
I didn't have to, yeah, Ididn't, I didn't do much
yesterday.
No, I was, I was pretty muchlike a waste of, Hey, you and
Jason went and got my car.
We did.
I had no idea I was asleep.
Yeah.
We went, I dropped him off atyour car.
Cause I had to go to Sephora topick up some stuff.
Essentials.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had no idea.
I woke up like I told Jace, I'mlike, Hey, I, I like, I need to,

(08:07):
I need a nap to live.
Like, so bye.
I am going upstairs.
I woke up and saw like, I missedlike 25 messages from the, from
the Quad Squad group message.
And I'm reading through and he'slike, Hey, does someone wanna go
pick up Christine's car?
Like I'm going into town.
And Jason's like, yeah, sure,let's go.
And.
They get, like, they go and Iwake up and I, I'm like, oh,

(08:29):
okay.
So my family's gone.
I wake up and I go downstairsand uh, no, they're back.
They got my car.
So much happened in the timethat I was dead to the world.
Yeah.
But yeah, that was nice.
But that is the most productivething I did all day.
Good.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did.
I did some laundry.
That's good.
Yeah.
That's Sunday.
I didn't do much at all.
Like I didn't do anything.
No, it was nice.

(08:49):
I had a nap.
It was such a nice weekend.
I played soccer with Scarlett inthe backyard for a little bit.
Thought I was gonna throw upmorning.
I did.
I went for a walk.
Yeah, you did.
30 days in a row, baby.
Good job.
Congratulations.
Thanks.
We're, uh, 30% of the way to ahundred.
I don't know if we're gonna makeit.
Hey, you're doing really good.
Thanks.
I'll cheer you on.
Thanks.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
I didn't Friday.
I didn't really do too much.

(09:11):
I don't think that we had ourmeeting.
I feel like I worked out.
You went for a run.
I did.
I ran, I worked out Saturday.
I ran mm-hmm.
In the morning.
And that was just kind of it, Ithink.
Yeah.
It wasn't too much.
No.
Too much of a day.
It was so nice.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Where did we see, oh, we cameover for dinner on Friday.
Oh yeah.
Oh my God.
We did, we had dinner.
If anyone wants to hear about myfirst world problems, my

(09:31):
dishwasher died on Thursday andthey can't come take a look at
it until this Thursday and it'sfine.
Doing your own dishes is fine.
I just, I don't stop.
For me, I don't like it.
I'm not a huge fan.
I would rather do a millionother things other than my, my
dishes by hand.
Yeah.
The worst part is the dishwasherdied like, The load didn't even

(09:54):
go through.
Oh.
So then we had to like, youknow, we had to do the whole
dishwasher and it was gross.
Cause it had been sitting thereovernight.
Yeah.
Cuz it, we, we always run itbefore we go to bed.
Yeah.
Like, that's our thing.
And we woke up and it didn't go.
That's so, and the water wasjust like, I'm so sorry.
Sitting in there, I would'vejust gone back to bed like, no,
I'm not doing this today.
I came out and Nick had thedishwasher apart.
I had just come out of theshower and he had the dishwasher

(10:17):
apart.
I'm like, oh, is the dishwasherbroken?
He's like, no, I'm just downhere for fun.
I was like, oh, just checking itout.
Seeing what's up.
There's a guy over there on a,like a zoom boom.
Yeah.
And he's so high in the sky.
I love that.
Oh yeah.
I see him look at him, go like,how are you going sir?
Wow.
That's impressive.

(10:37):
Yeah.
So we came over to your house onFriday so we didn't have to do
dishes.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that was nice.
We had a nice steak dinner, somepots.
That was great.
Yeah, we hung out outside, hada, had a couple drinks as we do.
Kids played and, oh, cuz we wentin the pool.
Friday afternoon.
What?
Yeah, the guy.
Oh, the guys did.

(10:57):
I didn't, the guys went in thepool Friday afternoon and then
we had, we walked over to yourhouse.
Oh yeah, that's right.
And then Jace was over at yourplace and walked over when?
Yeah.
We all walked over together.
Oh yeah.
Cuz I picked Scarlet up fromschool.
Yeah.
And I made her do her choresbefore you guys came over.
Yeah, that's right.
This is all adding up.
Yep.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good.
Um, as for reading, I am stilllistening to my audiobook.
Um, you guys, I have neverwanted to throw my phone more

(11:21):
times.
Really good book.
I'm very invested in it now.
If you remember last week, Isaid I wasn't a hundred percent
sure where I was at.
So it's called Don't Let HerStay by Byla Sanders.
I am.
How far am I?
I am, I think I'm like 20% left.
73.
So I have 27% left of the book.
My thing is, I still don't knowwhere we're going.

(11:44):
Like, right.
I still don't, does someonereally want her to die?
Like I haven't.
I don't know.
You're undecided.
I do enjoy the book.
I just, the husband, I hate him.
Absolutely hate the manstepdaughter.
Hate her.
Yeah.
I got, they, they infuriate me.
I got Carrie to tell me aboutthe book cuz like, oh, if I read
it, it'll be down down the road.
Cause I have quite a bit goingon right now.

(12:05):
But, so I got her to tell meeverything.
And it is just as infuriating asshe describes it.
It's so infuriating.
Like, I just don't understandwhat's happening every time.
And I ask her a question andshe's like, I don't know.
And I'm like, how, how know howthere's just so many unknowns
and I don't, I have 27% left.
Where are we going?
What's gonna happen?
Is there a twist?
I don't know.

(12:26):
Do are any of my predictionscorrect?
I don't know.
So that's my audiobook.
I listen to it when I walk only.
So every day for 55 minutes, Ilisten.
So I think I have about threewalks left, so I'll be done by
Thursday.
Good.
I'm excited to know about itbecause I, I need, I just, I
needed to be done so that I knowYeah.
Where we're going.

(12:46):
Well, it sounds like a good, itis good.
Frustrating book.
It is good.
Like really good.
Good.
The nice thing, excited to hearabout it.
Nice.
Is the kids are done schooltomorrow.
Yeah.
And I usually, when I'm out onmy walk, I try to be home by 7
45 ish.
Mm-hmm.
Because I want to make sure thatwhen Brooke gets up, I'm hanging
out with her while she's havingbreakfast and stuff, but
school's over.

(13:06):
Yeah.
So she's probably like, it's awhole different ballgame.
I don't have to be home.
I can keep walking around incircles until my book's done.
Yeah.
That's nice.
Love that for me.
You're passing by my housethrough the, I'll just throw you
snacks.
Perfect.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll throw you snack cause I gotyou.
Toss you some water when youneed it.
Yeah.
Our kids are done schoolalready.
I know.
It's wild.

(13:27):
School's out.
You guys didn't know you guysare signing up for that?
No.
Did you?
Oh, best.
Yeah.
Good.
Okay.
I am.
There's a story behind the bookthat I'm reading.
How much have you read?
Um, 81 pages.
Oh, I love that.
Um, it's only 200, 212 pages.

(13:48):
Just a little guy.
So it's a little fella.
If I had it in, like, if I couldhave read more yesterday, I
would have, but is it good?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So the book that I'm reading,this is called Going Down Hard
by Tawny Weber.
On the cover it says The biggerthey are, the harder they fall.
A little harle and romancey.
Yeah.
So the story behind this book isthat at our Jossen days, um, I

(14:12):
had a a few binos and that's allwe've been talking about.
This whole so far, you're gonnabe like, oh my god, you girls.
Okay.
So on the way home we pass by acommunity, a little area where
they've got like a communitygarden and they have one of
those community little librarystands where you, it's like,

(14:33):
Take a book, leave a book kindof thing?
Uh, well apparently I went tothis thing and took a book out.
Um, and the book is this goingdown Hard story.
Mm-hmm.
So apparently our jossen days,Christine was feeling a little
saucy.
Mm-hmm.
But the thing is, I didn'tactually find that I had this
book until a week later.

(14:54):
I went to go for a walk and Iput on my raincoat cuz I was
drizzling outside.
And uh, I, I was like, oh, thisis kind of heavy.
So I put my hand in my pocket,boom.
There's a dirty novel.
I'm so happy.
And I love that you're readinglike a book.
Yes, it is actually the firstpaper back that I've picked up
in probably years ages.

(15:17):
Cuz I just usually read off theKindle or Cobo.
But I'm really happy.
This is a very good book.
It's about, um, a gal and herbest friend, they own a company
together.
It's funny.
Um, and she, the main character,she starts getting these.
Like very offensive photos ofher that this person, we don't

(15:38):
know who yet has been creatingSo very like naughty photos.
Mm.
And they're coming to haunt herand they're jeopardizing their
job, their business.
Yeah.
And so they hire, um, this guywho is um, does security and
investigates.
And like whatever issues.

(15:59):
And, uh, well, he's a veryattractive cowboy and it's, it's
good.
I love that.
It's sassy.
That's fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's, it's really good.
He like, but he's loved her foryears.
Yep.
Like, she's met him a coupletimes.
Yep.
So he's like very passionateabout this project too.
Um, and she has kind of a, Idon't give a fuck kind of

(16:21):
attitude.
Yep.
And so, but when it comes tothem, they're like, the heat is
on.
It's, I love, love this.
It's, it's really good.
So I'm glad that I got, droppedit up and found a book in the
neighborhood That's so nice andlike good for you.
Draws and ladies dropping thisin the Oh, right in the little
community box.
Ugh.
Good for you.
Saucy little ladies.
Um, just so everyone knows.

(16:43):
The 30th of June is stuff yourKindle Day.
So if you do have a Kindle,Amazon has their one day only
that you can stuff your Kindlefull of romance novels.
Um, so if you have KindleUnlimited, you know you have an
unlimited amount of KU books,but this is, I think this is
above and beyond.
And then they're permanentlyyours on your Kindle.
They're not ones that you That'scool.
Just like take out and That'sawesome.

(17:04):
Send back.
So just everyone knows Friday,June 30th, that is stuff.
Your Kindle day.
What a cool day to, to have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's, uh, that's kind ofwhat's going on with me.
Wow.
I don't really, I don't haveanything else.
No, neither.
This week is just a bunch of,um, trying to get things done
cuz we have another concert onThursday.
Yep.
Uh, we're going to see Blink 1802 and I'm so excited, so

(17:27):
excited.
Um, it's gonna be a really goodone.
And then, uh, it's SummerSummer's here.
Summer's here.
Long weekend.
Yep.
Yeah, it's gonna be good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's kind of what's whatthe hap what the HAPS is.
Okay.
All right.
So let's dive into the, uh, theold episode.
Okay.
So July 1st starts our, uh,annual IM campaign.

(17:48):
This is our third year doing it.
Mm-hmm.
And I, it's honestly one of myfavorite things we do all year.
I agree.
It's, um, one of the things Ithink we're most passionate
about.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and kind of, I don't know,we hold onto it.
Like we just, this is ourlittle.
I don't know.
I just love it.
It's a special thing.
Means a lot.
It does mean a lot.
So two years ago, um, Sarah usedto create all of our cards that

(18:14):
we used to put in our packages,and she decided to create this
one card, and it said, I am.
And it had a blank.
And she, she said, wouldn't thisbe so fun if people like filled
it out?
Mm-hmm.
And I said, oh yeah, that's socool.
And I was about to order it andthen I don't know if I said
something to Christine or if wewere just talking about it, but

(18:34):
we decided it would be a reallycool idea to make it a thing.
Yeah.
Like have an I Am campaign anduh, that was the birth of the I
Am campaign.
So, Yeah.
And we absolutely love thisidea.
Yeah.
And we get our staff involvedand we get our customers
involved and it is mm-hmm.
Such a bright, shiny thing thatwe have around here.

(18:56):
Do you remember when I wrote thescript for and I cried on the
way home for our way to work?
To work?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I do.
I did.
I wrote this script for ourfirst I Am campaign video.
And I thought to Chris, Ipresented it to Christine in the
car, and she was crying whileshe was driving down the yellow
head.
I was like, um, may maybe, maybeI'll stop for a bit, ma'am.
This is insane.
No, I, I was okay.

(19:18):
I just had a It's fine.
Shed a few hundred tears.
It's fine.
So what is our IM campaign.
Okay.
So our campaign is, um, it goesfor a month long where we, um,
as managers and staff, um, weget together and we describe
something about us that isimportant to us that kind of

(19:40):
describes.
Us that we normally don't say.
Mm-hmm.
So like, I am beautiful, I amstrong, I'm confident.
Um, all these words aresomething that we don't really
use as often as we should.
So this is our way to promoteourselves and the way that you
can boost your confidence Soevery order for the whole month

(20:01):
will get a card in it and itsays I am and has a blank.
And it gives you the opportunityto write on it.
You also, if you get multiplecards in a month, you can give
them to somebody else to write.
We also have an option on ourwebsite.
Maybe you're not gonna place anorder in July and that is
totally fine.
We still want you to take part.
You can print your own.
IM cards off of our website and,um, Yeah.

(20:24):
And if you come in store, youget an IM card as well and we're
gonna be displaying them aroundthe storefront, which is so fun.
It's really, it is so beautifulto see all of these words of
encouragement for ourselves.
Cuz as women, it is so hard.
We are constantly saying thenegatives.
Mm-hmm.
And they sit on repeat in ourheads.

(20:44):
Yes.
So it is so nice to put thataway and just see these words of
encouragement and kindness toourselves.
So that's one of the manyreasons why it's so important to
us.
Yeah.
And why it's one of our favoritethings to do at L L B.
Um, yeah, there's some thingsthat always stuck out to me.
When we first started ourbusiness and we used to have,

(21:06):
um, in-store shop or in-houseshopping at, in our basement,
and people would come out inoutfits and I would say, wow,
that looks so good on you.
And then they'd pick themselvesapart.
Oh, that, and I always rememberthinking, I do not see what
you're talking about.
Mm-hmm.
Like, I don't see that.
Yeah.
So it's so easy to pick yourselfapart, but no one else has any

(21:28):
idea what you're talking about.
Mm-hmm.
You know, and so it's so coolthat for a whole, I mean, I hope
people do this all year long,but for this whole month, you
can spend some time focusing onthe things you love about
yourself, and you can write themdown on a piece of paper.
You can put the card up on yourmirror and just remind yourself
of how freaking awesome you are.

(21:48):
Mm-hmm.
And, I just love it.
So that's where I am campaignand it's super cool and we have
our insiders group on Facebookand we do a thread so that
people can kind of post, um, thethings that they want to, the
things that they wrote aboutthemselves and hold their card
or just a picture of their card.
And it's just always so, it'sjust so nice and there's always

(22:10):
so many kind words in the threadand mm-hmm.
You know, people are just sonegative and it's not even just
things we say about ourselves.
I feel like there are so manykeyboard warriors out there that
like to point out negatives topeople forgetting that there is
someone on the other end of thepictures or someone on the other
end of the videos.
And it's just, it's that onemonth that we really like work

(22:31):
on uplifting each other.
It's true.
Yeah.
It, it's just so important now.
And like, like you said, thekeyboard warriors, it is so
common.
It's awful.
And like, I actually justwatched a reel this morning on
Instagram.
Um, there's this runner that Ifollow her, she's absolutely
amazing.
And she, um, she just postspretty much everything about

(22:56):
herself, like what she eats andwhat size she is.
And like she is this gorgeouswoman and she just, she's not
your typical runner.
Mm-hmm.
Who is what you think in yourhead.
But she is a runner and anytimeshe posts a reel about this, she
gets just destroyed.
And it pisses me right off forher.
I hate, I hate reading commentscause she is, Being vulnerable

(23:18):
for the people like me who needto see that, you know, like that
we are all special.
We can all do these things.
Like, um, and then she just getsdestroyed.
And so, like to have somethinglike this that you can encourage
your friend, encourage yourselfthat you are more than what
maybe you've heard or moreyou've seen, or something that
you just, you have more.

(23:40):
I think it's just so importantthat we're doing this and I'm so
happy we do it every year.
Comments piss me off, piss meoff, off.
They make me like actuallyfurious.
And there's lots of times if I'mwatching a TikTok or reading an
article or whatever I'm doingand I start reading the
comments, if they get toonegative like that, I have to
stop because I get, I get sointernally furious and I'm like,

(24:00):
who?
Who are these people I know?
I don't know anyone personallythat would actually write
anything like that.
So who the fuck are you?
Yeah.
Like who are you?
Where, like what, what is goingon in your life that you feel so
nec?
Like feel the need to bringsomeone down like that?
I have no idea.
It's so awful.
It's, it's brutal.
And when did that become soacceptable?

(24:21):
Yeah, right.
Right.
Like, when, when did that justbecome normal?
It's just something you accept.
And I hate the, I hate the claimthat it's like, if you're gonna
put yourself on out on theinternet, this is what you're
gonna get.
Why?
Yeah.
Why?
Why does that have to be thatway?
No, it's not.
I would has to be.
Yes.
I'm with you on that one.

(24:41):
It's so bad.
It's so bad.
So we're here to try to make adifference mm-hmm.
In how you see yourself and how,who you really are, because
you're not those negative words.
You are not.
Mm-hmm.
Those ideas you have in yourhead.
They're just being intrusive.
And you are beautiful.
And you are kind, and you weresmart and you were fricking

(25:02):
amazing.
You are, you're marvelous.
So cute.
Um, so well you, since you saidthat, Carrie, what is, uh, do we
wanna bust out our words?
What we doing?
We're sneaking them early.
I dunno.
Should we, I mean, it's Thursdaythe 29th.
And, uh, it goes on Saturday.
Yeah.

(25:23):
Feeling hell not feeling frisky.
Okay.
I'm feeling frisky.
That's what I wrote for myself.
I'm marvelous.
You are marvelous.
Thank you.
I just, I always have such ahard time with my word, and it's
not because I don't think goodthings about myself, it's just
because I just never know whatto say.
It's really hard to find thosewords for yourself.
Mm-hmm.
No matter who you are.
And you don't wanna f it's noteasy and you don't wanna feel

(25:44):
like you're like, I'm fuckingamazing.
But why?
Why don't, why, why can't, whycan't you write?
I have idea.
It's so weird.
I'm fucking amazing.
Oh, that's what I should haveput, right?
Yeah.
I'm fucking amazing.
I wanna write another card.
Yeah, let's do that.
I'll take your picture.
Yeah, I like that.
I'm fucking amazing.
Yeah.
Why the hell not?
Yeah.
So you are marvelous.

(26:05):
Thank you.
And I'm really proud of you.
It's a very good word for you.
Thank you.
Um, it's spicy, it's like gotyour mm-hmm.
It's got your glitter writtenall over it.
Yeah.
It's good.
Yeah.
I like it.
I'm very, I'm very happy withyour word.
Yeah, me too.
Um, I chose, I am making myselfa priority.
Um, cuz I think that's what Iwrote.
Yes.

(26:25):
don't do that often.
I just kind of let things go orI don't do things for myself
first In this time I am mm-hmm.
2023 and I feel good about it.
Yeah.
Baby.
And that's been a lot of ouryear.
It's been, um, stuffed withtrying to make ourselves mm-hmm.

(26:45):
Priority.
Doing our self care in this, Ithink was a really good
opportunity to actually like,say it out loud.
Right.
I'm fucking doing it.
Yes.
I, I'm gonna go for a run.
Not worry about anything else.
No.
I'm gonna go to bed at eighto'clock because I fucking want
to, I love going to bed at eighto'clock because I'm tired and I

(27:06):
want to do these things.
And if I don't, um, recharge,I'm not putting myself first and
everybody else is just gonna getthe wrath later.
So let's, what do you mean?
Yeah, I'm really good offmostly.
So that's, that's our words thisyear for our 2023 I am campaign.

(27:26):
I freaking love this thing.
Me too.
Like, it's so good and I am soexcited to see your guys' words
come up and, uh, if you'rewanting, wanting to share them
in our insider's group orthroughout the store or
wherever, um, maybe we'll evendrop a question box on July 1st
Yeah.
On the podcast page.
Yeah.
And do that.
And we'll get you guys to dropyour ideas and if you, if you

(27:47):
put them on your story tag, shopLA and Lace and Tag two Babes
podcast and we'll reshare themon Instagram.
Mm-hmm.
This is so good.
So fun.
Yeah.
And I was, I've been so excitedto do this podcast just because
it's just one of those thingsthat you and I are so passionate
about, and you can hear howexcited we are.
We also have something newhappening this year with the IM

(28:09):
campaign, but we're not gonnaspill the means in until Sat or
until we're Live on.
When is it live?
Thursday.
Thursday?
Yeah.
So Thursday.
So you'll be listening to thisand then We'll, and then you'll
be like, what is that?
And we'll be talking about it onthe live.
Yeah.
We're gonna go live at noon onThursday.
So today, the day you'relistening and, uh, show what's,
uh, new.

(28:29):
Yeah.
This year we're excited.
We are very excited.
Mm-hmm.
We're just smiling like foolsover here.
Like, we're so happy.
So happy.
So, um, one of our other top,not other topics, but it
coincides with this, um, we'rejust, we wanna talk about
confidence and, uh, we getquestions about that all the
time.
Um, and, uh, How that goes inhand, in hand with the I Am

(28:53):
campaign.
Yeah, I, I get asked quite abit.
I did some stories on myInstagram not that long ago
about it.
Just, someone asked, and I knowshe asked both of us, cuz she
mentioned that to me.
But she just said like, wheredoes your confidence come from
and how do you have so muchconfidence?
Because I think you and I comeacross as, you know, pretty
self-assured with ourselves andYeah.

(29:16):
Um, I was also asked thisquestion and I promised her that
I was going to answer it, um, inthe school pickup line, and I
never did answer her because Icouldn't find the words that day
that really, that really, uh,described it well enough.
Yeah.
I have been a person personallywho've struggled with
confidence, um, just.

(29:39):
In my early childhood, in myteenage years, I've gone through
weight gain, I've gone throughacne issues.
Still in my adulthood.
I have gone through issues inschool, so confidence was never
my strong suit.
Um, I, I struggle with, um,depression and anxiety and, um,

(30:03):
still to this day, I mean,that's never, that's always
gonna be something that I haveto just go and push through.
Um, but.
So confidence has always been areally hard thing for me.
But in the past few years, Iwould say, especially with the I
Am campaign, um, it's reallygiven me a different perspective

(30:25):
of myself and that I'm not thosethings I just said out loud.
Mm-hmm.
I'm not anxiety, I am not myacne.
I am not my weight gain.
Um, I am me So just recognizingthat has given me the
opportunity to be happier mylife.
Um, and that was just a hugechange for me.

(30:47):
Almost like a click.
Yeah.
Um, so I do still struggle.
Almost every day.
I still overthink.
I still have those body imageissues that we as everybody, as
humans just will continue tohave.
But I have given myself moregrace to understand that I'm not

(31:09):
those things that I described Ihope that mm-hmm.
Came out okay.
It did and it made sense.
It did.
See, this is the overthinking.
Um, so that is a big one for me.
Um, I also just have to remindmyself too, that like I'm, I've
got a pretty fucking cool thinggoing on.
I, you know, I've got people wholove me in my corner.

(31:33):
I have a best friend who isnever allowed to leave.
So I know she'll be hereforever.
Never chain her to me.
Um, I have an amazing husband,an amazing support system, so
they gave me the, thatconfidence too, cuz they're just
such an encouraging mm-hmm.
Bright light in my life.
Um, yeah.
So that's my story.
Mm-hmm.
what about yourself?

(31:53):
Okay, so mine's slightlydifferent.
But I grew up in a verypositive, not, not saying you
didn't Yeah.
But I grew up in, my parentswhen I was growing up were like
my biggest cheerleaders.
Yeah.
For everything.
My mom is a super confidentperson, so like I grew up around
a lot of self-assurance.
So I, not that I didn'tstruggle, don't get me wrong, I

(32:16):
just, my parents promoted a lotof confidence in me when I was
growing up.
Mm-hmm.
Which I'm so thankful for.
And I work really hard to adoptthat in my parenting style.
Mm-hmm.
Because if that's not somethingyou hear or not something you
grew up knowing, maybe that'ssomething you're gonna struggle
with.
It's very important to me withBrooke, because my mom and dad

(32:37):
were like mm-hmm.
You know?
Mm-hmm.
They were always so good.
When I was in junior high, Istruggled a lot.
I was very, um, skinny.
I was a very, very skinny kid.
And I used to get made fun of alot for it.
Um, people used to be like, oh,you're anorexic, or whatever.
I was just like, I was just avery skinny person.
Yeah.
Like, I had a high metabolism.

(32:58):
Yeah.
It, it did eventually crash onme.
Don't you worry.
But I had a very highmetabolism.
Yeah.
I wasn't a really big eater.
Mm-hmm.
Like, I was just a picky eaterand I was just one of those kids
that was really fricking skinny.
Like I was just tall and lankyand I used to get made fun of
all the time for it.
And that's something that reallybothered me.
But, Even when I was in my likehigh school years, I always

(33:21):
remember being like, people arenot gonna like you no matter
what.
Mm-hmm.
You're either too skinny, you'retoo fat.
Mm-hmm.
You're too tall, you're tooshort.
Your hair's too, you know, like,your hair's too long.
Your hair's too short.
Like, people are always gonnahate something about you.
And I remember in high schoolkind of coming to that
realization, because once I wasabout 15, 16, once, I started

(33:41):
getting older, I, my metabolismslowed down.
What?
It was very sad, very sad timesfor me.
And I remember just thinkinglike, wow, people have found new
things to make fun of me for,you know?
Mm-hmm.
Like, I'm not that skinny kidanymore.
And now there's new things.
Yeah.
Like people are always gonnafind something to pick on you
for and.
I feel like the, even as I getolder, I realize that more.

(34:06):
Mm-hmm.
Like no matter what you domm-hmm.
There's always gonna besomething someone's gonna pick
apart.
It is amazing that you recognizethis and realize this in high
school.
Mm-hmm.
When, for myself, I didn'trealize this.
That didn't click until like mythirties.
Mm-hmm.
Like, that's really impressive.
That, and like, thank you.

(34:26):
I'm very proud of you becauseit's, it's hard.
Mm-hmm.
Not now.
I'm like, you don't fucking likeme.
Great.
Move along.
I don't give a, but it's hardwhen you're younger.
It's right.
And it's not that it didn'tbother it too.
It's not that I did, it didn'tbother me, but I just kind of,
yeah.
I was like, wow.
Like it doesn't matter what Ido.
Exactly.
People are always gonna findsomething.
Mm-hmm.

(34:47):
I remember I got a brand new carwhen I was 16 and I didn't know
that car.
It was such a good car.
You guys fucking love the car.
But people made fun of me forthat.
Like I got a brand new car.
And I, I remember getting madefun of.
Yeah.
Like, I like it.
Does doesn't matter what you do.
No, it doesn't matter.
Like, it just doesn't matter.
And I think, um, you know, Istruggled a lot after I had

(35:10):
Brooke because I just didn'treally know where my place was.
Mm-hmm.
But I did go through a lot oftime before we started l b where
I wasn't really sure aboutmyself, but I feel like my
confidence like exponentiallyexploded once you and I started
doing photos.
Photos and lives.
Yeah.

(35:30):
One of our, one of the thingswith going live, like today, for
example mm-hmm.
I slapped my hair into pigtailbraids and I did a little bit of
makeup, but nothing too crazy.
Mm-hmm.
And today I go alive andsomeone's like, oh my God, your
hair looks so good today.
Wow.
Thank you.
Because like, I was like, uh,feeling a little shlubby, like

(35:52):
it wasn't mm-hmm.
It wasn't on my A game.
Mm-hmm.
Like, I looked fucking smokingon Saturday and today it's like,
what?
You just roll outta bed kindathing.
And like that made me feel sogood.
Right.
Uh, so going live and doingphotos, it was huge confidence
booster.
Mm-hmm.
Sometimes there's photos out outthere or like, you know, that
it's not so good.
No.

(36:13):
And uh, you're like, we're like,oh shit.
Like, what was I doing that daykinda thing like that one of the
jacket.
Oh my God.
Well, um, but doing photos andgoing live, like our customer
base is so supportive Yeah.
So to get those little boosts ofconfidence is just, it makes the

(36:33):
whole world go around over here.
Honestly, the negative commentsdon't come from our customers.
No, no.
They're, they're from randominternet trolls, which is why I
don't, for the most part.
Yeah.
It's why I don't put a ton of,uh, Yeah.
Value into what they're saying.
Yeah.
Cuz it's, but yeah, so for me, Ialways had ups and downs with
confidence, but in my thirties,once we started doing photos

(36:58):
ourselves and just seeing myselffrom a different perspective, it
definitely went from, you know,here up.
Mm-hmm.
Like, it just, you know.
Mm-hmm.
And also realizing again that nomatter what you do, there's
always gonna be something whohas something shitty to say
about you.
Mm-hmm.
Like sometimes I see people onInstagram and they're freaking

(37:20):
smoke shows and there's peoplewriting negative shit about
them.
Like, I'm like, what are youtalking about?
Yeah.
Like, that's no.
It's, it's wild how, what peoplethink they can get away with.
It drives me nuts.
Ugh, me too.
I can't just piss off.
I find the internet sounbelievably toxic.
Oh, it is.
It's so, there's some amazingthings on the internet.

(37:42):
Yeah.
That is like, I'm grateful forthat.
We have for like accessibilityand just like learning, um, but
then connecting.
Yeah.
But the negative things thatcome from it is just, it's too
much.
Mm-hmm.
Like if you fail the backpackfull of the, the negative versus
the Yeah.
You'd be falling over in asecond.
Mm-hmm.
Like, it's just, it outweighsit.

(38:03):
Oof.
Drives me nuts.
Yeah.
It's wild because we didn't growup with social media.
Nope.
So we didn't have to worry aboutthat when I was in my gawky
skinny stage only, the only thepeople in my immediate circle
Who are those people?
I'll go fucking egg their house.
I'll, you know, I'll write, I'llwrite a list for you.
Yeah, I'll get a post-it.
I'll absolutely egg a house withyou any fucking day of the week.

(38:24):
But, you know, it's just, uh, ifthere is somebody's house who
gets egged, probably wasn'tactually me.
Okay.
I say this disclaimer, And youknow, we were talking about this
the other day actually, thethings that stick with you.
Yeah.
That's not one of them, but oneof them was, um, about me having
my hair up.
Yeah.
I said that the other day.
Yeah.
You did my first boyfriend,which I'm not, fuck, I'm not

(38:47):
gonna say his name, but he said,fuck you.
Yeah.
Like, as if he was right here.
Fuck you.
We didn't date for very long,but he, uh Wow.
Got really mad.
I remember one time he was, hemade this like, comment in
passing and he was like, yeah,the first time I met you, I, I
didn't, I thought you werepretty ugly.
And I was like, wow.

(39:08):
Huh.
And he's like, yeah, it's, Ithink it's cuz you had your hair
in a ponytail.
You're pretty ugly with yourhair up.
Like, but I can't even tell youhow long that stuck with me for
years.
Years.
I get it probably until I was inmy twenties.
I get it.
I would never put my hair up ina ponytail still.
Sometimes when I put my hair upin a ponytail, I'm like, does
this look stupid?
I'm like, Nope.
He's just coming back to hauntyou fucker.

(39:28):
I think you look great in aponytail.
Thank you.
I actually love myself with myhair up.
Yeah.
Looks great.
But for so long.
Mm-hmm.
I wouldn't wear my hair up forall of high school.
All of high school.
I know where, I know who you'retalking about.
I know exactly.
I know where you are.
Fucking watch out.
I'm like raging right now.
We just, we, we were justtalking about this last week.

(39:49):
Like I've already gone throughthis anger, but I'm doing it
again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was one of those things, Ihate that, I hate those things
that stick because they, it's soeasy for those things to come
on.
Mm-hmm.
Put so hard for, to get, to befree of them.
Right.
Be to.
To be free is such a magicalthing, and it is so hard to do.

(40:12):
I also find it comes more withage too.
Mm-hmm.
The older I get, the more mylike, fuck jar really just Yeah.
Goes away.
Mm-hmm.
In my twenties, I was definitelymore aware of what people
thought of me.
In my thirties.
I'm like, if you don't like me,like that's fine.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Yeah.
I definitely feel more of thatnow.
Definitely more of that now thanI did before.

(40:33):
I had thought so much of whatpeople thought of me and I now
sitting here, I'm like, why?
Why?
That was such a waste of mytime.
Yeah.
I'm still very concerned aboutwhat my boyfriend thought when I
was 15.
Well, I told you I can take careof this problem.
I just, you know, like, and nowI'm like, wow, Carrie.
Like you really focused on thatfor so long.

(40:55):
Yeah.
But it was one negative comment.
Mm-hmm.
And just to be clear, we didn'tdate for much longer after that.
I.
That was my, kicked him in theballs and left.
I should have, you should havekicked him in the balls.
And when he's like, why, youknow why we're like point
stilettos or something.
Just, you know what?
Fuck it.
Get cleats.
Oh yeah.
Just fucking have her in there.

(41:16):
Wow.
We got a lot of my aggression.
It's because, you know, there'sthat one thing that, that one
comment Yeah.
That someone makes about you andthen you'll never forget it.
No, and I hate those.
I hate those.
Yeah, but you don't.
And then there's, you know,someone could say like 25 good
things about you in a day and atthe end of the day you're still
gonna think about the one badthing I hate that goes back to

(41:37):
the backpack.
It weighs he's that.
It's so heavy.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
It's really hard to pack thosethings away and never look at
them.
Mm-hmm.
It's really, really hard.
It's, if you can do those sortof things, it's such a good gift
to have.
Right.
Cause it's a lot of work to packit up in that jar and not look
at it again.
Mm-hmm.
And those, one of the thingsthat I try to practice or try to

(41:58):
like get better at doing becauseI'm such an overthinker and
think about what people think ofme all the time and it's so
hard.
Uh, okay, we're back.
I'm just, we had, we had to usethe washroom.
We did.
Um, yeah, so, but don't thinkChristine and I are immune to
like body image issues justbecause we've come so far with

(42:20):
ourselves because we still.
Take, we still see photos ofourselves that get taken here
and we're like, ah.
Oh God, you cannot put that onthe internet.
No.
There, it, it still happens.
I love my, I Am photo this yearthough, by the way.
Just Me too.
I love mine upgraded this year.
I really like mine this year.
Yeah, it's really nice.
I just, I told Jason onSaturday, 10 outta 10 Friday, I

(42:42):
said, that's probably myfavorite photo you've ever taken
of me.
That's so nice.
Yeah.
what a baby you are.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Let's talk about uh, why gettingthe size range that we do at LB
is so important to us.
So important.
From, from both sides.
Extra small to three x is, it'ssomething we started really,

(43:02):
really early was bringing inextended sizes.
Um, I would love to bring in aneven further extended size range
up to that five x six x mark.
It's not as easy to find.
So it's something we definitelyare consistently looking at.
It's why we love caring brunettethe label, because they do carry
up to that six x mark, which isso cool.

(43:23):
Um, but yeah, I remember we werein the show home basement.
That's when we really startedcarrying a little bit of plus.
Yeah.
So we, we would bring in, youknow, we dabbled in it.
Um, you need to understand thatas a small business, investing
in something like that, that youdon't know if you have that

(43:44):
customer base yet is definitelya.
I don't wanna call it a risk,it's just it was new to us.
No, it, it is for sure.
Cuz there's definitely, there'sa, a good, there's a lot of
money that goes into it.
Mm-hmm.
And that it might not be seenfrom the other side, like from
the customer's perspective, it'sjust like, well, why can't you
get this right?

(44:04):
Like, well, because there's,there is actually a lot of money
involved.
Mm-hmm.
And like being a small business,we have to, we have to make
sure, like you said, we havethat customer base and that it
is something that Yeah.
Will survive.
Because we want it to, justbecause we want it to, we want
it to be here doesn't mean thatit will.
Exactly.
So we have to really make surethat it's going to be a good

(44:26):
business decision.
Of course.
And, um, and it will besomething that you guys would
want to continue to haveavailable to you.
Yeah.
Cause at that point we, wedidn't have a.
Um, a customer base from thatone x to three x mark.
So it was kind of a slow, it wasa slow roll at the beginning.
Mm-hmm.
We'd, you know, we'd launchedlike two or three pieces a month

(44:47):
and plus, and then we kind ofstarted getting a little bit
more, and then we had to scaleback because it wasn't selling
at all.
Yeah.
And we had to rethink ourstrategy mm-hmm.
Because it was something wereally, it was something you and
I wanted so badly.
Mm-hmm.
We really, really wanted tocarry it.
We just, we had to figure outhow mm-hmm.
Properly without like, tankingour business Exactly.

(45:08):
At the same time, um, my goalwas always if we at least can
break even on this mm-hmm.
While we're trying to bring itin.
Yeah.
Trying to get the, get thecustomer base.
Then we're winning, then we'rewinning.
And we finally got to a placewhere we started establishing a
customer base, and then I thinkpeople were telling their
friends like, yeah, this is theplace.
This is the place they're gonnahave it.

(45:29):
And now I'm gonna say, 70%, 75%of what we bring in, we bring in
up to three xl.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And we also try to focus onextra small.
Yes.
Because that's important too.
Very important.
And we do have a good like,amount of people who are
searching for that extra small.

(45:49):
Mm-hmm.
Um, so when we can bring it in,for example, like our grace and
lace, our ampersand, uh, surelyoccasionally have extra small
those.
Mm-hmm.
We get so freaking happy andlike happy dance for that shit
that we can bring in that extrasmall to the three x, to the
four x when we can, or five xwhen we can.
Um, it brings us so much joy.

(46:11):
It does.
And then we, we started bringingin, um, models that represented
those, you know, one x, two xthree x bodies, which is so
important as well to showcasewhat clothes are gonna look like
on a different body because.
No matter what you and I do, youknow, I wear a medium, you wear

(46:31):
small clothes are just gonnalook different and everyone
wants to see what they're gonnalook like on themselves and not
just, um, size, but height orbody proportions.
Mm-hmm.
It's why we are so happy to havethe gals that we have as our
models to do the things thatthey do, for example, do with

(46:53):
the photos.
Yeah.
And go live for you guys toshow, um, uh, the clothing on
them and to really be that.
Representative mm-hmm.
Person for you.
Um, and they do such a good job.
Yeah.
They're phenomenal at, atanswering your questions.
Um, they are rock stars,honestly.
Um, and to have, um, thatcourage to go live Yes.

(47:17):
So I'm very proud of them.
It's so great.
Yeah.
So that's something you and Ihave just always been passionate
about because I just thinkmm-hmm.
Just because you don't fit intothat small to extra large body,
or small to extra large sizerange doesn't mean you shouldn't
get to wear the same clothes aseveryone else.
Exactly.
And it pisses me off to no end.
When vendors we shop from don'tcarry that full size range, I

(47:40):
don't, it drives me up the wall.
Like I understand that there isa risk on their side as well.
Mm-hmm.
However, they're missing a mark.
They are, because we have seenthe demand.
Over and over again.
Mm-hmm.
Um, with the items that we areable to get in our extended

(48:01):
sizes, but with the items thatwe can't, the amount of requests
that we get on those Yes.
Is just, it's, it's wild.
And I feel like if we just sentthem our social media with like
those requests Yes.
They'd be like, oh, this is athing.
I just don't think they hear itenough.
I know.
And we try, which blows me awayevery time we go see them, when

(48:23):
we do our trips to magic, whenwe go to Vegas or even just we
contact them through email.
We, every single time we ask'emlike, have you started bringing
in extended sizes?
Do you have this on the agenda?
And every time when we hearthat, no.
It's just, it's so hard anddiscouraging because they,

(48:43):
they're missing it.
They are, they're really missingthe mark.
They really are missing themark.
It's too bad.
I know.
I think it's just so, I don'tknow.
And from, you know, from bothsides, I think it's an insane
business decision not to do it.
Mm-hmm.
Because from a businessperspective, I think it's, I
mean obviously we carry Plus anda huge part of our business is

(49:05):
plus, but also just it's soimportant to make sure your
brand represents I inclusivitythose Yeah.
Inclusivity and those bodies.
And I mean, I could go on and onand on about how much it annoys
me, but we, we do as much as wecan and a lot of our vendors
that don't carry plus regularlywill order, um, special cuts

(49:27):
mm-hmm.
With them.
Yeah.
Which again, is, it is a biginvestment, but we are very
lucky that we have a largeenough customer base that we can
buy those numbers.
Right.
Of those sizes.
So we have a couple vendorsthat, um, They mostly carry
small to large or small to X tolarge.
But if we're willing to do aspecial cut with them, like a,

(49:51):
you know, a special order, theywill provide us with one X to
three x, which is so nice.
And if we could do that on everypiece we ordered, yeah, that
would be amazing.
But some just say no, that theyjust don't have, they can't.
And some, some we just like, wejust can't.
Yeah.
We just can't bring in thatmuch.
Exactly.
But we try as much as humanlypossible.
We'll always, always fight forit.

(50:13):
Always.
Cause the cool thing I find isthe more we push for it, the
more people like our vendors aremore likely to consider it.
Yep.
That's why I'm willing to callhim every damn time, like, Hey,
is it time yet?
Has it happened?
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
So hopefully, I mean, I thinkthe majority of our vendors that

(50:36):
we.
Carry or going that route,especially the ones that never
used to carry plus are startingto, but yeah, it's getting
there.
It is getting there.
Um, I also wanted to say, whenwe were talking about like body
positivity and confidence, um, Iwanted to mention our insiders
group.
Yes, because I am so freakingproud of those people in there.

(50:58):
Me too.
Uh, just the people who dropselfies or who don't, or who
just comment or just writesomething about having, how they
love something on themselveswith, with picture or with out a
picture that is so brave.
And like we said earlier, theinternet can be a scary place,
but we're so happy that we havea safe place on our, on our

(51:19):
Facebook page.
Um, if you're not part of theInsiders Group, I highly
recommend that you do join.
Um, it is a safe place where youcan post selfies, you can talk
about what you like, and, um,you can ask us to bring things
in, et cetera, et cetera.
It is, it's just a really coolplace to be.
Um, but I'm so proud of thosepeople.
Me too.
All the gals in there.

(51:40):
Me too.
Um, it's a our little corner ofthe internet that we can
control.
Mm-hmm.
The.
The narrative in there.
Yeah.
You know, like we were talkingabout how if you post something
on Instagram, you, you can'tcontrol what comments you get.
Yeah.
In our insider's group.
Like we, we can We got yourback.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You post something and if therehappens to be a not so great

(52:04):
comment, like, we, we will, wehave your back.
We got you.
They go.
Yeah.
Like, we don't let that happen.
Like literally gone.
I don't think we've really everhad that many situations though.
No, no.
Just a small, like I would sayright now our group is like 13
and a half thousand people.
Um, I would, I would say we'veblocked 10 maybe if that mm-hmm.

(52:25):
In the eight years we've had it.
Yeah.
It's a don't fuck around kind ofsituation.
It's just a safe place that Ithoroughly enjoy.
Like I'm a, like I'm a sillyWillie in there like 99% of the
time and I know that it's okay.
Silly Willie, by the way.

(52:45):
Yeah.
Silly Willy.
You know, you're a malman.
What did we say earlier today?
That was really funny.
Oh, we were looking up, um, whatdid we find?
What did Sarah find?
Oh, here, I'll look it up.
Titty, titty.
Witty beach Titty.
Witty beach Titty.
Witty beach in Australia.
We were looking up our JossenAustralia.
Yeah.
And Sarah wanted to look it upon the map and she's like, oh

(53:06):
yeah, our joslin's right bytitty, witty beach.
Titty, witty.
Silly Willy reminded me of thattitty, witty beach.
So yeah, I'm a little Australiain the group and it's just a,
it's just a fun place to bewhere be who you are with no
issues.
Mm-hmm.
And I like it.
Me too.
So we kind of touched on, um,confidence in the younger

(53:30):
generation and like raising ourkids.
I think it's something that withthe age of social media that
we're in something that is.
Exceptionally important now is,you know, talking about
confidence and like raising yourkids with some sort of
confidence because I just, Ifear for them in mm-hmm.

(53:53):
With where social media is rightnow.
And I think that's why I loveour I Am campaign too.
Yeah.
Because the kids like it.
Yeah.
We, we bring home cards for ourkids.
Yes.
And they get to, um, write downsomething And I think it is just
the coolest thing.
It is.
And they think it's really cool.
They really do.
Yeah.
But, you know, a couple times aweek I'll say to Brooke, I'm

(54:14):
like, like, what do you loveabout yourself?
Mm-hmm.
It's just like little things.
Mm-hmm.
To, you know, help.
Yep.
Because being a girl is hard.
It's so hard.
And now just, you know, evenjust being a, just a human in
general.
Absolutely.
It's so hard.
Absolutely.
But yeah.
So if we can just help oneperson at a time mm-hmm.

(54:37):
Even just like a 1% in theirlife, if we can just make a
positive impact.
Yeah.
I think we're doing a good job.
Yeah.
Agree.
Oh boy.
You know what?
I haven't pushed a button today,please.
I did.
I'm like, I played eerie music,but, but that's okay.
We knew what that button was.
Okay.
Oh, did we?
We did this one before.

(54:57):
Did we?
Okay.
Have a new one.
Okay.
Hold on.
Oh.
This is a good one.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow.
Crickets.
Crickets.
What's this one?
Oh, that's, I like that one too.
Oh, I didn't mean to push ittwice.
Do we have you press all thebuttons now?
I don't know.
Let's see.

(55:18):
Yeah.
Walk Oh, that's funny.
Yes.
I pushed all the buttons.
Perfect.
Yeah.
I like that.
Good.
I really like the button segmentof our podcast always.
I really do.
Always.
Good.
Okay.
Well, I think we did it.
I think we nailed it.
Did we nail it?
I think so.

(55:38):
Awesome, awesome, awesome.
I think we really did good.
Um, or do you wanna do somelistener uh, questions?
I would love to do listenerquestions.
Thank you.
Um, okay.
Did any of your outside friendsfind it hard to hang out with
you two being so close?
Okay, so we had a five seconddiscussion of this earlier.

(55:59):
Um, we don't know, but weprobably think so.
Mm-hmm.
Well, no one's ever outrightcome to us and been like, you
guys are really fucking hard tobe around Yeah.
Um, but I mean, I could see whyI could see it.
It would be challenging becauseyou and I are so close and, and
we're so in sync.
Yes.
I was gonna say, you don't evenhave to speak mm-hmm.

(56:21):
Before I know what that I knowwhat's going, I know what's up.
Right.
So I could see how that coulddefinitely be difficult, but no
one's ever come outright andsaid it.
But I think we're also very goodat including the other people
around us.
Absolutely.
And like, being, you know, likeat uh, Or at our, at our draws

(56:41):
days.
Mm-hmm.
We were chit chatting witheverybody and their dog.
Yeah.
Like, not, we were together, butyou don't even know where I was
for 25 minutes.
Nobody does.
Nick doesn't, Jace doesn't, Iwas missing for about 20 to 25
minutes or so, and I askedChristine where she was and
she's like, I wasn't gone forthat long.
And then I was talking with Nickabout it the other day and he's
like, yeah, where did Christinego?

(57:03):
And I was like, right.
She was gone for a long time.
All I remember is that I went tothe bathroom, I talked to my
neighbor, I talked to these twoguys.
They were outside of thebathroom and they asked me
something and then, and then Iwas immediately back at the
picnic table.
Like I felt, to me it wasn'timmediate.
It was like maybe two to fiveminutes.

(57:24):
No, I'm gonna go with 20 to 25.
Like, You guys need to put anair tag on me.
Seriously.
I don't know.
I know where you are.
I am also a wanderer.
Mm-hmm.
When I drink though, like I liketo go and talk to everybody and,
and see what's up in like thiscorner and that corner.
But I think that's why, that'ssomething you and I are really
good at.
Yeah.
When we're at, you know, whenwe're at some sort of event or

(57:46):
whatever, you and I are verygood at not just like standing
the two of us in a corner andlike excluding everybody else.
We kinda of do our own thing.
Yeah.
Sometimes at the beginning, ifwe're feeling a little like
awkward, awkward, we will, butas soon as we like start a
conversation with somebody else,we're, it's like, I don't even
know that girl over there.
But then if one of us needs, ohyeah, we a doesn't wanna be
alone or doesn't is talking tosomeone they don't wanna talk to

(58:09):
at Signal baby.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Big time.
Like, get over here, go home,save me.
Yeah, no, we're really good atthat.
So, no, no one's ever saidanything cuz I don't think it's.
I don't know.
I don't think we've ever madeit.
It's, and you know, maybe it islike a little intimidating
because we are so in sync and soclose, but I don't think so.
I don't think we give off thosevibes.

(58:30):
I don't think so.
If we do, I'm sorry.
It's not intentional.
No, I Tell us, tell us.
Yeah.
Just give us a little bit of aheads up.
Be like, yeah, girl.
Like, hey, this is reallyfucking awkward.
Yeah.
I'm here too.
Maybe that's why it's only everjust you and me that adds up.
Everyone's like, uh, I'm out.
I'm not hanging out with them.
Uh, what else do we got?
What other questions?
Okay.
Okay.
Well this kind of goes hand inhand.

(58:50):
How do you find mom friends?
I find it's hard to make newfriends and my kids always come
first.
Um, so we don't, yeah, that'sreally hard.
So when I do happen to make newfriends, I.
Um, which is not an approvedthing, by the way, by me.
I do not approve.
Oh, but no, if you happen tomake new friends, yeah.

(59:13):
Like, uh, it's mostly because ofmy child, so like absolutely at
her sport or at school.
Like I'll meet her friends momsand like obviously like she's
gonna wanna have play dates andwhatever, et cetera.
So like we, I meet them throughthat.
I definitely think it was thehardest to meet other people,

(59:34):
but I also wasn't really lookingto meet other people when my
kiddo was younger and like rightfrom zero to like three, because
we didn't.
She's school.
See, and I feel like I'm theopposite.
Opposite.
That's where I met like Crystal.
Yeah.
Um, through my mom's group.
Yeah.
And then I met a couple otherfriends through dance when
Brooke was really, really young.
Okay.
Yeah.
And now that she's older, um,she doesn't need me Yeah.

(59:58):
Around anymore.
Okay.
So I, I feel like it's evenless.
So.
Yeah.
See mine probably, I would sayfour to right now is like peak
where I'm the one who'scoordinating the, um, the
meetups and the play dates andthe driving to sports and blah,
blah, blah.
So I'm Nick.
Nick does all that.

(01:00:18):
Yeah.
And then, and then you and Jacekind of had that other, so yeah,
I would say that I wasn't reallyseeking, but that's how I find,
that's how I found friends,friends.
Yeah.
That's kind of through.
Yeah.
Once I, yeah, I guess oncethey're in things and are out
and about a little bit more, Ifound that easier to Yeah,

(01:00:40):
that's fair.
People, and that's, you know,that's kind of how I met some of
my friends that I have now wentfrom when Brooke was younger and
we're still keep in touch.
I just broke a hair clip in myhand.
Oh, that's a bummer.
Also, when it kind of coincideswith that age gap and how you
found it easier to meet mm-hmm.
People When Brooke was younger,when Scarlet was that age, it
was, it was Covid.
So I never, we never really metanybody.

(01:01:02):
Mm-hmm.
So that's that kind of added up.
So mom's groups are huge.
Outings are huge.
Yeah.
Also, the library.
Huge.
If you can get to libraryprograms with your kid Yes.
Do it.
I, it is one of my favoritethings that I did with, um, my
daughter and Carrie's daughter.
I would take them to the libraryon Thursdays and we had so much

(01:01:23):
fun.
There were so many other kidsand other moms and, um, or
parent figures out there that,like, that was a huge one for
me.
So give that a try.
Let me know how it goes.
I love that mom dating 1 0 1.
Mom dating 1 0 1.
Right.
Yeah.
It's hard too, because I don't,like I've said before, I don't
have a ton of extra time.
No.
Like, I don't have much.

(01:01:43):
No.
And the, you know, the goodhandful of friends that I have
outside of the quad Yeah.
They know that if they messageme, it could take days and days
before they hear back from me.
Yeah, yeah.
You know?
Totally.
Because sometimes I just don'thave that extra bandwidth.
Yeah.
And when I like my, like othermom friends, like I get to see

(01:02:03):
them.
At these out, like thesesporting events?
Yeah.
Like that's my, my hangout sesh.
Yeah.
You know, but that's cause Idon't have that extra time too.
It's hard.
Hard.
And we have extra time.
We're usually with each other.
One squad.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next question.
Okay.
Do one more?
Yeah.
Okay.
This one's a big one, so.

(01:02:24):
Oh, Whopper.
Okay.
Do you think your change in lifefrom where you started to where
you are now has changed you aspeople?
Yes, a hundred percent.
Yes.
A hundred percent.
I was a very insecure person whohad a hard time.
This goes back into theconfidence conversation.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I had a hard time with mostthings.

(01:02:45):
I was the person who would cryat work.
I was the person who, you know,had a really hard time with
friendships because of just likemy own insecurities.
Um, and I think that everythingthat we have gone through,
especially together and togetherwith the business, I, I don't
think I would be as outgoing.
Mm-hmm.
And as, um, unafraid of andself-assured.

(01:03:07):
Yeah.
Like you're very like sure ofyourself now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think that's a really goodquality to have and to have
gained.
Mm-hmm.
I agree.
I agree.
Yeah, absolutely.
So yeah, I think it definitelychanged and in such a different
season of my life now and likewhere I just mm-hmm.
Am happy.

(01:03:28):
Very, and I can like confidentlysay that I am a happier person
than I used to be.
And like you might have known memy past and I might have come
across as like this reallyhappy, bubbly individual, but
that may not have been true atthat time.
Of course.
And so, like, to be in theseason of my life where I can
actually say like, yes, I amhappy who I am, I'm happy where

(01:03:48):
I am.
Mm-hmm.
And like, yeah.
And I, I agree cuz I've alwaysbeen happy with my life outside
of my professional.
Mm-hmm.
But I, I went to school, I gotmy degree in business and then I
decided to be an accountant.
I honestly have no clue why.
No, just kidding.
I really did like it, but, um,it didn't, I.

(01:04:10):
It didn't fill my cup.
Mm-hmm.
You know, my day-to-day worklife didn't fill my cup.
It didn't make me happy.
I didn't, I didn't like workingfor a big corporation.
I didn't like, um, the work Iwas doing.
I didn't like the stress that itput on me.
Not that owning a business isany less stressful, but, you
know, at least the stress is forme in our business, not Yeah.

(01:04:34):
For anything else.
And I'm finally happy in myprofessional life, which is such
a big thing.
Yeah.
You know, to, to, I just feel sowell-rounded now.
Yeah.
It's also when you, going backto that stress, it's different
stress when it's our stress.
Mm-hmm.
Not somebody else stress thatyou're taking on.
Exactly.
It's very different thing.
Exactly.
And, you know, any mistakes thatwe make or, um, which happens a

(01:04:58):
lot, it does happen a lot.
It, it's our mistake, like it isour mistake and we take that
owner, that ownership of it.
Yeah.
Where it's not the same as whenyou make a mistake at your job.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
And.
I just, yeah.
I think it really has helped tomake me just an overall, like
happier person.
Mm-hmm.
I really do.

(01:05:19):
Agreed.
I really do genuinely love mylife and I love where it is
right now.
Mm-hmm.
And that's not something I couldhave said eight years ago.
Agreed.
Mm-hmm.
I'm with you on that one.
Yeah.
Okay.
So every episode, oh, it's myfavorite.
It's my fav.
And you know what, it's everyoneelse's favorite too.
Yeah.

(01:05:39):
Yeah.
They love it.
I love, fuck Mary.
Kill I.
Okay.
Okay.
Would you like to go Firsta?
They're, uh, did you go first,last Geraldo?
I don't know.
Okay.
Yeah, you did.
so it's my turn.
Okay.
So this one is kind of, this onedoesn't follow a theme.
Okay.
Which is interesting.
Okay.
Okay.
Fuck Mary Kay.
Christine.
Yes.
Zack Efron.
Yummy.
Tom Holland.
Yummy.

(01:06:00):
Harry Styles.
Shit.
Shit.
Yeah.
Shit.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Okay.
We have Zach Efron.
Yeah.
Tom Holland and Harry Styles.
Yeah.
Can we talk about Harry Stylesand his confidence for a second?
He is a dreamy, dreamyindividual and it is because of

(01:06:20):
that compound.
It is, it is.
He walks like, I mean, not thatI've in like been in a room with
him, but let me tell you, if Idid, I'd probably be arrested.
Um, but he walks into a room.
Yeah.
And it's just like, FuckingHarry's here.
Mm-hmm.
Harry's here.
He is like, cool.
A cool Carries Carries himself.
Oh, it's hot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, and when, um, we weretalking about Morgan Wallen on

(01:06:41):
Friday or whatever at yourhouse, and Scarlet was, you were
like, oh, he has a mullet.
And, and then, and skirt's like,I like mullets too.
And I was gonna be like, youknow, that's not really the
reason, but that's fine.
She does, she has a couple boysin her class that have mullets
and she just like, she's like,oh yeah, he's growing on his
mullet right now.
That's so cute.
Yay.
My, but that's how I feel abouthim.

(01:07:02):
Yeah.
When he's on stage and he like,looks at you.
Yeah.
It's just like walking sex.
You are the whole world.
Oh yeah.
Like even just watching hisTikTok.
Mm-hmm.
Like he at a concert.
And by the way, he like looks atthe camera and Yes.
I'm like, I feel like you justundressed me.
Yes.
Like, it's good.
Okay.
So Zach Aron, Tom Holland, HarryStyles, I don't wanna kill any

(01:07:23):
of them.
Okay.
Well you have to kill one.
Okay.
I think I'm going to Buck Harrystyles.
Yeah, I think, yeah.
You do that?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
I think, no, I'm going to marryTom Holland.
Oh my God.
You're killing Zach Efron, Ithink.

(01:07:43):
I think, oh my God.
I think I'm going, Zach.
Look, think of the lucky one fora second.
I know, I know the shout.
That was actually just goingthrough my head.
The shower scene.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Hold on.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
I don't, I'm not gonna sway yourdecision at all.
No, no, no.
You're not.
It's, it's all me.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm gonna, okay.
I am going to kill Tom Heand.
Okay.
And I'm going to marry Zach atFrance.

(01:08:04):
Yeah, you are.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Has anyone seen the lucky one?
If you haven't, I highlyrecommend you watch it.
There is a shower scene.
Yes, it is delicious.
Life changing, like just.
Watch it.
Rewind.
Watch it again.
Yeah.
And thank me later.
Oh, freaking like, love ZachHarron.
So good.

(01:08:24):
Okay.
That was really stressful.
Are you locking that in?
Okay.
I am locking that in.
Okay.
I'm gonna kill, kill TomHolland.
Um, I just, you know, I think hehas a little bit of growing up
to do.
Yeah.
And I think Zach Harron has seenit all.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm really willing toexperience it with him.
Yeah.
And Harry styles.
Well, you all know why.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
You all know why.
Yeah.
I'm also like, just like allthree of them are in love with

(01:08:45):
him, but I know he's really upthere for me lately.
Anyway.
I love it.
Locked in, baby.
Locked in.
Locked in.
Okay.
Okay.
Yours has a theme.
Okay.
I love it.
I love themes.
This really makes me happy.
Fuck Mary.
Keil.
Carrie.
Yep.
Cat is Everdeen.
Okay.
Petita.

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Petita.
And.
Scale yeah.
Okay.
So the theme is Hunger is HungerGames.
Hunger Games.
Okay.
Okay.
So, okay.
Okay.
Yes.
Okay.
Sorry, I had to look them up.
I just had to take a littlepeeky peek here and No, we're
not going actors.
No, no, I know, I know.

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I just like, I love, I loveGail.
I know you do.
It's, it's the Hemsworthbrothers for me.
Yeah.
Um, Katniss Everdeen.
Hey, I'll always volunteertribute.
She will.
So that's nice.
That's a nice quality to have.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Petita and Gail Kate.

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So I read the books before themovies came out.
Mm-hmm.
And when I read the books, I.
I loved Pita.
Mm-hmm.
I love, love loved him.
I didn't love the actor theycast as him.
Yeah.
And so that's why I'm havingsuch a hard time here.
Mm-hmm.
Because like book Pita over,like movie, very different.

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I'm with you.
I almost pictured like Gail'scharacter as him.
Yeah.
And I still knew Gail was gonnabe attractive, but like, I just,
I wasn't expecting it, you know?
Okay.
So I think that I would fuckGail.
Doesn't Mary Katniss Nice andkill Peta?

(01:10:32):
Yeah, I think those are greatchoices.
Yeah.
You know what Katniss is?
She just seems like someone Iwould like to go through life
with.
I told you.
She's good volunteer.
Trippy.
She's just, you know, she's abadass.
She is badass.
You know, she's strong.
Thank you for not giving me, uh,president Snow.
You was on the list time, but Iwould've killed him in like a
second.
So, yeah, it's, we were just, wewere talking about President

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Snow the other day.
The pool were in the pool.
Yes.
We called him Professor Snow.
Yeah.
Well I had a couple drinks.
Okay.
Um, yeah, so that's funny.
Nice.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, I like that.
Locked in.
Locked in.
Good, good.
Yeah.
Very confident with my decision.
This was a really good luck,Mary Kill.
Oh, I love the HemsworthBrothers.
Mm-hmm.
Good.
Okay.
So that is, uh, yeah, that's ourepisode baby.

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