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July 18, 2025 • 102 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look up. We've come all these things with beat it
on the bottom all Oh wow, is you You're my
favorite views?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
But there's nothing.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Welcome back family, Welcome back you, beautiful creature.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
We are doing Wednesday content. We have today has been
a ship show. We're having technical difficulties. I managed to
get the technical ship figured out and working.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
We're running late because of an installation this morning.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Installation and me locking the key in the car.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah yep.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Luckily Carrie was not working right now. I was able
to come and save the day. Save the day, yep.
Carrie was the hero today. Uh. So we were supposed
to do Wednesday episodes are supposed to be uh public
live stream followed by two Patreon lives, one you know
public I'm sorry, one podcast recording, and then one Friday episode.

(01:01):
Because of the day that we've had, we've decided that
we are going to only record one episode today. There
will not be a Patreon episode after this. We are
just going to do a very long live stream today
and we're going to do a Q and A and
we will use this Q and A as content for
Friday in June at some point or July whatever we're
recorded up to, we really technically could have taken the

(01:22):
day off and just not done this today, which probably
would have felt better after all of the stupidity that's
happened this morning. Yeah, but we are doing the thing.
So Lauren is in the chat, she said, olsh oush
Alsh House. So how is everybody's Wednesday going? Hump day?
Mike bake bake back back bay by. I guess what
day it is. I feel like we should maybe even

(01:45):
have an email ready to go just in case. But
Jenny said, you really could just take a day off.
We do take days off, we just don't take them often.
We normally take them as down days when we don't
have to record to make sure that we are holding
up our end of the Patreon agreement because we don't
want to. You not deliver for people who are subscribed
to our channel. You want somebody quick to read that
will make you giggle? Check the death star, So I agree. Yeah,

(02:10):
you know what that means? Only joy, only joy, only joy.
I'm reading this out loud. Okay, this says this doesn't
have to be right on social I just had to
share this funny story with you, as I believe you
too will find it hilarious. Today while at home, my
boyfriend of four years was at work, and I decided

(02:31):
to send him a spicy not safe for work photo
through text message. I sent a separate message saying not
safe for work before sending the picture and a separate text.
A few minutes later. Twenty five minutes after that, he
calls me saying, so I was screen sharing during a meeting.
I'm so proud, she said, only a little mortified, but
currently laughing. I had to share this as someone outside

(02:52):
of my circle who would understand something like this. I
love what you all do and contribute to the world.
You are truly inspiring. Thank you. Okay, that is hilarious.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Good for you, guys.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Is fucking funny because you did that to me. I
did you did that to me? This, this conversation right
here is about a custom barndo, babe, shut up?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Are you serious?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yep. I don't know how to make it work, but
I figured I'm gonna start taking steps. I don't know
what the fuck I'm doing in life anymore. I'm really
just trying. Lemon sent us a super chat for five
bucks that said something and then I scrolled away. A
win for the week is being physically and mentally really
able to actually enjoy and take a shower every single day.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Good for you.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Love that. Tammy said, you guys are such goals. We
heard that a lot over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, I heard that a lot over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Just got back from the park with my family and
watered my garden to see it's growing and there are
little sprouts all over. That's such a good feeling. Beautiful,
such a good feeling. All right, guys, Well, we're here
for your entertainment today. We are making this for you. Guys.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
We're always here for you.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
If yeah, always, If you guys have questions, send him in.
Let's let's get this bitch going.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah but und oh my gosh, worked almost two hundred
on you. You already.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Hi, everybody, welcome. Have you been practicing your Greek peaches? Nie? Nay,
is it kai? Whichever one means Yes, I am still
doing it.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I am.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
I'm actually getting really proud of myself. I'm at a
point now where I can understand because B is actually
V so I can see the letters and understand what
they're trying to say without actually being massively confused. So
I'm really excited.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Just have to speak with a speech impediment, you'll be golden.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, kind of.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Katie on Facebook said, I just want to say that
y'all's podcast has gotten me and my boyfriend through so
much and seeing things from different perspectives. Thank y'all so much.
That's the goal, man. We're really just trying to help
you guys out. This is the whole reason that we
started all of this. Peaches, would you be receptive to
a custom made Cleopatras style chest harness? I need the
practice and I can't think of anyone I'd rather give

(04:58):
it to.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
I would be absolutely honored.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
How funny is that because I just bought you three
of those you did?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yep, I would be absolutely honored, and I'd wear the
fuck out of it. If this is something that you're
wanting to do as more than a hobby, like you
actually want to share your artwork with people, send links
of where people can find you on social media, where
they can reach out to you for custom pieces. When
you send that, because I would love to plug it
on the podcast for.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
You, you know that that is the cheapest promotion that
anyone will ever get. Yeah, especially on a platform our side,
because we open our packages and show them off. Yeah,
especially when it's from a business, like when people send
us those candles and all of the cool things that
they sent. Whenever there's a business card, we show that shit.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Madison on YouTube said, how can you better work with
your husband when in laws both sides are very controlling.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
You guys need to turn inwards.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, turn away from your in laws, turn away from
your parents. You guys are supposed to be a single unit,
one flesh, and having your in laws trying to dictate
your life is not the move.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
We love you guys very much. We appreciate the energy
that you're poor into us. It's not what we need
right now.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
And if that doesn't work, you can be sarcastic and
be like, hey, do you remember our wedding And they
were like, yeah, I like when you were when we
were exchanging vowels and they were like, you may now
kiss the bride. Were you the one that I kissed?
Were you standing here? Did I give my vows to you? No?
Then I need you to go the fuck over there. Yeah,
because this is our family now, and though I appreciate
you being our extended blood relatives, love you, this is

(06:23):
the priority.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Now back the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Sometimes sarcasm works really well. Sometimes it really hurts people's
feelings too, so you'll still get the hint though sparingly,
How often do you open packages? Normally when we get
them if it's something that we know what it is like?
If if people are sending ship for our kids, those
don't get open on the live streams. But we actually
just opened something from her stickers, right, Grace tea.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yes, ye, yes, yep. Bethany asked if I would like
some white sage. I would love some sage. That would
be would that would be such a gift? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Jay?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I'm glad you're here, Lauren said, so as y'all know,
I'm currently courting a wonderful man. When y'all were recording,
how did you manage time spent together? Do you purposely
make time and work around each other's schedules? Yes, we
had to because there was kids involved. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I was also working full time as a body piercer
aspiring tattoo artists. There was a lot going on in
life that had to be scheduled and worked around. Everything
in our relationship is intentional.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, everything is with intent. McKenzie on YouTube said, I'm
a new follower, and my husband and I are trying
to repair damage marriage from cheating. What episodes would you
recommend we listened to. I love everything I've watched so far. Honestly,
just go back from the beginning to watch all of them. Yea,
there's not a single episode that talks about it. However,
if you guys are trying to repair, there are books

(07:49):
on our recommended reading list that will help. But ultimately,
you guys are going to have to decide whether or
not this is something that can be forgiven. And if
it can be forgiven and you're going to move forward,
you need to let it go.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Don't hold grudges, right, It's.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Okay to have the conversations when you're hurting, but you
don't want to have the you know, the crazy the
fights over it once it's been decided that you're going
to try to make it work. So, guys, we are
doing super chats. If you want to guarantee to have
your shit red, send a super chat on YouTube. Casey
sent a super chat for ten dollars and it says
I wanted to say thank you to the both of
you for helping me become the best version of myself.
For my boyfriend and for my brothers. I hoped to

(08:23):
always be able to go to one of your episodes
when I hope to always be able to go to
one of your episodes when needed. I love that.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I love that too.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
When we were in ceremony this weekend, and for those
of you who are in Patreon, we will be doing
an after dark tomorrow night to go over ceremony and
things that happen, and we'll probably plan one for two
weeks from now to talk to the other people who
went with us, because we have three of our tribe
members were with us, but we are Their creativity was

(08:52):
a very big discussion during ceremony and then afterwards. It
was a very big discussion in my head during ceremony
and then a very big discussion afterwards. Yeah, because there
are so many talented people there that could just pick
up an instrument and play it, and people who could sing,
and people who are doing things to heal people to
medicine women that were there and all of that, and
like my envy and jealousy was at full I was

(09:13):
envious of fucking everyone that could play instruments and people
who could sing, and like the way that people were
able to be there and support each other. I was
envious of people's compassion. I was very envious on Friday night.
That was a big problem for me. Yeah, and I
got a download basically that said that our voice and
what we do with the podcast is everything that I'm
envious of in others and our podcast and doing what

(09:34):
we're doing. We are doing this for you, guys. We're
doing this so that we can help people, and we
are trying to fill a void in the world that
needs to be filled, and it needs to be filled
with love. So I'm fucking I'm really proud of us.
I love what we've created and the things that we
continue to do every day. It feels really fucking good
to know that we're making change.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Rebecca said for a super chat said I'm getting married
in nine days. Been watching y'all since the beginning. Any
last minute advice with your evolved mindset, since your journey
with Aya, You guys are about to start your life.
This is the most amazing beginning that you can ever have,
and if you work on keeping that love together, you'll
have an amazing marriage. Don't become complacent, don't take a

(10:16):
day for granted. Yeah, and live in the moment. If
it's the first time that you've picked the socks up
this afternoon, the first time you've ever done it, I
don't care if you've done it every day for the
last five years. The first time you've done it today
is not that big of a deal, right, Like, live
in the moment. What about you, babe?

Speaker 3 (10:33):
What do you got forgiveness, love and understanding? Dance hand
in hand?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Say that again, forgiveness, love and understanding dance hand in hand.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Okay? Because it got the first three words and then
dancing hand in hand. I was like, why just hand
in hand? Like why can't we didn't register? Yeah? Would
you do another po box po unboxing? Sure? I mean,
if we have packages come in, we tend to do them.
Sometimes they're only on Patreon we do them, but we

(11:04):
do do them. I just watched Chris's interview on Symphony
of Deconstruction podcast. What you discussed was validating and inspiring,
some heartbreaking and a beautiful love story. Thank you for
sharing it. Part two will be coming, Peaches. This episode
dropped on Friday. I think yours actually went to completion,
though I have to finish mine.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, I mean, there's more that I could talk about,
but we had a certain amount of time.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, there will be follow ups. We are probably going
to be very enmeshed with Troy and what he's doing
in the future, so you guys will see a whole
lot of that with us. Sabrina said, Mike and I
talked about you guys. I'm sorry you both this past weekend.
Thank you for both just being who you are and
continue to be. Ben said Snooper chat. That is all
good afternoon, Janny said, Chris said, do do. Katie said,

(11:47):
for the newlyweds, you don't see the hard days in
a photo album, but they are what get you from
one happy photo to the next. That's a good way
to look at that, Peach.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
As someone else asked, how you knew enough was enough
in your first marriage? Like, what was the point you
decided to foreshore walk away? I'm asking again because I
want to know too. Thank you. When I looked in
the mirror and I hated myself, do you have to
elaborate on that's so I should have left my first marriage.
I shouldn't even gotten married. I knew my wedding day

(12:17):
that I wasn't getting married. For the right reason, but
I pushed myself to do it anyway because of obligation
and expectation. So I should have walked away before the
day of the wedding, and there were multiple instances after
that I did not feel like a priority. I did
not feel like what I wanted mattered. A lot of
the times I felt like a sexual object instead of

(12:39):
a person. And the moment I finally decided to walk
away is I didn't want my children growing up thinking
that this is what love looked like. I'm willing to
put myself through a lot. I was willing to put
myself through a lot because I hated myself. I didn't
think I.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Deserved better self worth as a motherfucker, so.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I was willing to tolerate a lot of shit it
And then at the end of the day, I had
to look at my babies and I didn't want that
life for them. I am the first example of everything
that they see in life.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
And your kids will follow in your footsteps. They may
not do what you tell them to do, but the
behavioral patterns, the trauma, the paths that they choose to
walk in life will mimic yours. Because that was what
was modeled to them when they were still pro like
their brain was still developing. Absolutely loved Peach's statement mentioning
having the opportunity to fall in love with your person
every day. That was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
What's the status of officiating weddings? Were we really want
to do it? We just it's got to be. We
want to officiate weddings. The problem is, in order for
us to do that, it needs to be something that
is not a cost to us. So if it's in
Florida or Georgia or somewhere where we can drive up
in a day, do the wedding and drive home and

(13:53):
the only thing that we got to pay for is gas,
that's easy. But like people are wanting us to fly
to the Pacific Northwest or go.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, I'm not trying to be in a four thousand
dollars deficit.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Right just right without charging somebody, And like we're not.
I don't I'm not comfortable charging somebody to officiate their wedding.
Like that's not what we do. I would rather do
it as a hey, we love you, thank you for
being here, thank you for supporting us.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, not a.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
You know, let's make your memorable day transaction.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, it's a planet's a line, and we happen to
be vacationing somewhere. You're getting married, that would be I
will pause the vacation absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Jay asked us if we're coming to Vegas this year.
He didn't stay it here, He texted me this morning.
We haven't figured out what we're doing for September yet.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
That's our birthday month. No, we both have a birthday
in September. If we do, I'm going to say, Nevada.
I don't want to be in Las Vegas again.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well we could. I mean, we'd obviously stay somewhere not
on the strip, Yeah, but we can stay near there
and he could still meet up with us and do shit.
Maybe we should just talk to him and Krista off
the log and try to figure that out. We have
a first time comment or so I want to read it.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh okay, hello.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Ashley said, first time commenting. Thank you. It was for
your time and service into the show. The tools that
you have provided help improve my relationship thirteen year marriage
and the tools we took from you has helped us
prioritize each other in our lives again. I love that.
Oh oh, how did you both know you were ready
for courtship. God put us in each other's past, wound

(15:18):
us up and let us go.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, that was a I wasn't I wasn't ready.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Neither was I. Fuck. The last last thing that should
have been happened in my life.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Was a courtship.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
But I knew that, Yeah you are. I knew that
you were something worth pushing myself towards. I didn't want
to have another regret in my life.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
You guys are not innocent bystanders in your existence. The
decisions that you make is going to dictate the outcome
of your life. And when you look back on your life,
do you want to look back and be like, man,
I really fucking lived every moment or do you want
to look back at all of the regrets and missed
opportunities and like that's what it comes down to.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
I could have I should have.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Right, I wish I had? If only? What about got
a super chet from from thin Mint. I'm so glad
I found this tribe. Thank you so much for being
your raw selves and enlightening not only me but the world.
The energy coming from you, too is breathtaking and impeccable.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
All Joy only Joy agree.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, people are going to start to think that we
have brain damage with all this, you know, chirping and
living best.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Think whatever they want to think of me.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
That's so funny. Sammy said, I have BPD. Yeah, I
mean there's more than listening to you, uh, listening to
you because commentary back and forth sounds so familiar to
our marriage. He is codependent. I believe he has BPD
as well, but not diagnosed. We had our eleven year
anniversary this year, but it's hard to keep hanging on.

(16:52):
We haven't, we haven't given up on each other, but
mental mental health take a toll. We're from milled Jeville, Georgia.
I've never even heard of that place. That was a
hard one to read. Madison said, would your couple's retreats
be a good fit for a couple who doesn't follow
the same spiritual beliefs as you? Absolutely, guys, we have.

(17:12):
We have so much with our faith that people don't understand,
and when they start to understand it, they shun us.
Yeah we are. We are not the typical Christians. You
could be right. You could be a complete like legit pagan.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
You could be a Satanist as long as I will
welcome you to our table.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Just be respectful.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
As long as your end goal is to be a
good person, It's.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
All that matters. It's all that matters. Couple's retreats would
be a dope place for people to get married too.
I'm just saying. Jay said, we would definitely have you
guys for our valor renewal, but that's years away. Lol.
We just celebrated our one year.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Beautiful.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Cody said, so y'all are in Florida. I'll be in touch.
We are in Florida. Zach, first time commenter. Chris's hair
is always so well done? How does he keep it on? Fleeting?
I wake up like this?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I do it for him.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
How do you handle a man with VPD? Why do
you want to handle him? Why not love him? How
do you love a man with VPD? And then the
question is is how do you not? Somebody's mental disorder
shouldn't stop you from loving them if you love them. Anyways,
he was just diagnosed about a month ago. This is
all new to both of us. You don't handle him,
you don't get on his roller coaster. If he's having
a hard time with his borderline, you let him go

(18:23):
through it, and you ask him, how can I support
you right now? That's it. You don't get into conflict,
you don't take things personal. You let them go through
their emotions until they're able to commonly process what's going on,
and then you have discussions. He needs to be in therapy,
he needs to be doing CBT and DBT and doing
all the therapeutic things to help with the borderline. And
he needs to remove himself from trauma situations. Things that

(18:43):
trigger him is going to keep him in a BPD
style mindset for a long time. So you move yourself
away from the things that are triggering you and making
your life hard. You do the work you can't heal
in the environment that you were heard in. As they say,
as Peter says, all the time, she's the day, He's
the day. I was of buff Bell for nine ninety nine,
just dancing in to say how grateful I am that

(19:05):
the universe brought us together. I value our friendships and
the closeness of our souls more than I can ever say.
Only joy, I love that peach. Damn it. I cry
every time you.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Cry because we're connected.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
That's so funny, Caitlin said, I will be getting married
in less than a year. Our relationship is already amazing,
but your wisdom helps me look for things before issues start.
Isn't that such an amazing thing to have the podcast
that you can get triggered from a conversation that we
are having and then go to your person and be like, Hey,
I heard this and it bothered me and it has
nothing to do with us, but can we talk about it?

(19:40):
Because if this ever comes up, we'll know that this
is a problem for me and we know how to
deal with it. Grace would like to see your nails.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Babe, my nails, Oh golly, for all of my ASMR
people out there, maybe do some.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
With's that absolutely make a noise. Actually, Holden sent us
a two dollars super chat but didn't say anything but
right above that is the first time watching your live stream.
But I have been watching you guys a lot since
I got out of a relationship with a narcissist. It's
been hard, but watching you guys has helped me so much.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Oh, your life is going to get so much better.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Absolutely, we actually have an episode dropping Friday about narcissism.
So if you know, if you're not a part of
our Patreon, make sure that you turn it in tune
into the episode that drops on Friday. Danish said, any
new books coming, Yeah, yeah, my book is done. My
second book has done. My first book has been done
since January. My next book is finished. Pre order copies

(20:42):
are available on to me better dot com. If you
order a signed copy, you get a free PDF download
so you can read the book before it releases in August,
but the actual release date is August fifteenth. This book
is like the pinnacle of my writing and everything that
I've done, whether it being blogging book right, you know,
text message conversations. There's so much in this book about

(21:04):
healing and reinventing yourself after a hard relationship. And it's
not just dedicated to men, like this isn't all across
the board. These are things that you need to realize
about you and what you need to do to start
taking steps to heal yourself. And I think it's going
to do very very well.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I think I know what I'm gonna name my book.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
And I don't mean financially, yeah, I mean it's going
to fucking help people. What do you name your book?

Speaker 3 (21:24):
I love you and you should too.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Ooh. I didn't see that coming. Yeah, that's good, that's good.
I need Okay, you should write it down, make a
note of that. A Jones eleven ninety on YouTube sent
a super chat for ten dollars and it says, I
have been watching you guys for a couple of years.
Now I aspire to have a marriage like you guys.
I have used so much that you have talked about.

(21:46):
I have become more understanding and calm wife and mom.
I'm assuming that there's an emoji in there, but it
doesn't show the emoji on here. But I love that
for you. I love that you guys are changing your lives.
YouTube blakes to fill in words for you, and it's
hard as heckn to edit them. Elope. At a couple retreat,
I was Dan Applefritter that said that you're not Christians,

(22:10):
You're a couple of God. There's a big difference. Well,
we are definitely not Christians. We are follower of Christ,
followers of Christ. But I think that our understanding of
faith is a lot different than people's. That was another
thing that popped up for me during ceremony last weekend. Yeah,
is that I'm going to live my faith and my
relationship the way that my relationship fits. I don't care
if you disagree with it. It's not your relationship with God,

(22:32):
it's mine. You worry about your relationship, I'll worry about
my relationship and we can hug it out. It's the
best I can do for you. I wish you the best.
I love it all chat all caps. My first time
catching you guys live. I love your guys' advice, always
raw on, straightforward, one hundred. Thank you, Mariah lil misheal yourself.
That's a cool name. What's you guys doing on seven

(22:54):
to seven?

Speaker 3 (22:55):
That's July right, she's in my Sacred Sisterhood group?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Is that July seven May? Yeah, June July will be
we don't know yet.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Also a week we do not have the children.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
No, so as of right now, we're not doing anything
on seven seven.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Danish's birthdays in July.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Oh yeah. Tera said, we are seriously wanted to We
are seriously wanted to book for Greece, but you know life,
well you got time. We actually did the we did
the math on it. If you book to go to Greece,
it's nine hundred and I think thirty five dollars down
and then two hundred and twelve dollars a month until
it's paid off and there's no interest.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
And then if you book through a firm, obviously you
have to finance it. That's different. That's based off your credit.
But it's not bad. Two hundred dollars a month. It's
not a lot of money to take a six day
vacation somewhere. You still got by your plane tickets and shit.
But Melinda said, I have improved myself with the help
of you, but now it seems like it is hard
to connect. Sometimes. I do wish I knew how to

(23:53):
have deep and helpful conversations with a very quiet type
of guy. Do you have any advice dating and all
is good? Just feels like I need some more productive conversation.
You need to find an intellectual, is what it sounds
like to me. Would you say, babe, probe, yeah, probe.
You can't communicate with the wall, No, you absolutely can't.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
So you can find all the ways to talk to
somebody that you can, but if they're not receptive, there's
nothing that you can do about that.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Unfortunately, NICKI said to both of you, short and sweet,
thank you for your content for being you and sharing
with us. Thank you for enjoying the things that we
make for you.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Guys, It's an honor.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Super chat from Catherine. You have gave your your gave
me strength. These they're people, They're right. The fucking YouTube
does not like to cooperate. You gave me the strength
to leave my abusive husband. It helped me save myself
and my son. I know what I deserve now, a
man who lets me be me. Oh, I love that.

(24:50):
I love that. I'm so fucking glad that you left
the abusive situation. Ashley on Facebook said, I'm waking and
find no issue with the amount of religion mentioned in
the show. You speak on your God, which keeps this
interpretation open to my gods. Anytime it's brought up the
core of most religions are going to agree. Don't hurt
other people if we agree, there are no issues there.

(25:11):
I mean, that's it. You fucking treat the Golden rule.
You treat people the way that you want people to
treat you.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I'm also not one of those Byron Brimstone people.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, I don't believe in hell.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
I mean I've had somebody even explain it to me
that that Hell is the absence of Christ. So if
you die and don't make it to heaven, no matter
what you get, is going to be hell according to
that person's belief of it. I don't. I just I
don't know if the idea of you not going to
heaven means that you're going to burn in a lake
of fire for eternity. That doesn't sound like a loving
God to me. That sounds like a spoiled child that's

(25:43):
not getting their way.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Limbo sounds like hell to me. Yeah, having nowhere to go,
just being stuck. Yeah, maybe reliving your past over and
over again as a spirit.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Ashley said, do you have any book recommendations for learning
how to love after getting out of a toxic relationship?
Thank you guys for all you do. Oh man, we
have a lot of books on a recommended for that
is your go to for everything.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, it's a good book.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I have three now, It's always been choice theory has
been my first. Yeah. The Courage to be Disliked and
Now Let Them by Mel Robbins. So I have three
books that are my go to reading. However, there is
a book on too b Better dot com called You're
Not Broken that you can buy a pre ordered signed
copy of and get a PDF of today. That is
great for this, It's fucking great for this. I'm biased,

(26:29):
but everybody that has read my book so far has
fucking loved it. Yeah, I got it. I saw a
conversation yesterday and the discord from the guy who one
of the guys who bought the book the moment released
was like I just got out of the first chapter
and posted a screenshot, and his daughter was like, I
love you, dad, Like.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
That's amazing, absolutely amazing.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
You guys are fucking killing it in life. I love it.
Fire Red Phoenix said, we traveled to New York to
officiate a wedding.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I don't know if we happen to be in New York. Yeah,
if we were, we have a reason the good in
New York, Right.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
If we were there to like see Niagara Falls and
just happen to be driving through your area, Yeah, maybe
for us to drive somewhere to do that, though, you
guys would have to cover the cost of us being there,
and I just trying to figure that out is a lot.
Ohny Jenny j A. I feel like I was blessed
the day I followed you both. The change in my
life because I found you too, goofy humans with the

(27:23):
Internet on the Internet, on the Internet who became families.
Astounding love. You both can't wait to play Mermaids.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
We are one hundred playing Mermaids.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
You guys are gonna get in the waterfall.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Costa Rica send it. I might order a Mermaid tail
off of Amazon.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
All right, guys, As you know, there was a TikTok scare.
We lost the app for a whole twelve hours and
we have no idea what the future of the app
looks like. And with that, we are very concerned about
the loss of our following. We have a massed almost
three million followers across that platform with all four of
our accounts, and we are trying to push people to
other social media platforms so that in the event that
anything happens on one app, we have multiple other backup plans.

(28:01):
If you want to make sure that you're not missing
any content, we highly recommend that you check out our patreon.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
On Patreon, we have multiple tiers to choose from. Starting
at ten dollars, you begin to receive exclusive content. At
fifteen dollars a month, you get access to our private
discord server where we've en massed in an absolutely amazing
community of supportive people. And beyond that, we have other
tiers to check out, along with my two private women's group.
If that's something you may be interested in.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Guys, on our fifteen dollars and higher tier, you have
access to live recordings. We record all of our content three, four,
sometimes five times a week live in front of our
Patreon audience, where they are able to chat with us
while we are recording. They can see all the flirting
and the outtakes, the hot topic conversations that never actually
make it on the podcast, and it's really worth that
aspect in itself. We have an after Dark where we

(28:48):
sit down usually once a week and have a glass
of bourbon or and Peach's case of glass of wine
and a bowl of cheese and we have a whole
lot of fun conversations karaoke in the discord we finish
the lyrics. Literally just hang out and you guys get
to hang out with us. There is a host of
other perks, including zoom calls that are coming for the
Ultimate Tier, so that if you guys are having problems,
you can talk to us. It also gives you the

(29:10):
heads up on Private meet and Greece because when we travel,
we try to meet up with people on our discord
on a regular basis. There's a whole slew of other
perks that come through Patreon. I highly recommend that you
check it out.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
The best way to support what we are doing is
to share the content. The second best way is to
check out our Patreon. Thank you guys for being here.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
So fucking grateful for the community that we have.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Me too.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Terah said, how many first books have sold? I'm over
the two thousand mark on the No One's Coming to
Save You books. I don't know the total number I got.
To be honest, I stopped checking when I started writing
my second book because that's where my focus went. Brees said,
God really brought me to your live today and I
joined a point in a live to gain some very
important information that he wanted me to hear. Thank you
for being you guys. Thank you God for guiding me

(29:52):
towards this lie, for teaching me something about myself that
I needed to know. Have a great day. Chris and Peaches,
Hey man, love that pe are going to find it
when they need.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
It the most beautiful.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Can we just acknowledge that Chris wrote two books in
like four months. Can we just acknowledge the power of
plant medicine and microdocene? Yeah, those were my big right days. Yeah,
I'm super focused.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
My writer's block went away after this last weekend.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
I know what I'm going to make chapter two and
three of my book. Yeah, I was gonna make it
about emotions like I was going to focus on single
emotions like that doesn't feel right. I wrote almost a
complete chapter for chapter two and deleted all of it
because it didn't feel right.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
I hate that.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, I hate it.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I fucking hate it when you delete things.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
It doesn't feel right, though, Make the mistake and keep going, Babe.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
I wrote that Saturday. It's in the fucking journal. The
medicine gave me that, and I'm giving it to you.
Make the mistake and keep going. Okay, stop deleting things, uh,
Melinda on Facebook? I'm fucking emotional from that stupid shit.
Excuse you, Jenny got me?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Stop look at me. Excuse you.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Don't do that. I don't need to be reprimanded.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
You're being reprimanded. It's not stupid shit.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
It's not It's just I don't have another word for
it right now. I don't believe that it's stupid. I
think it's amazing. But she got me with that amazing
shit doesn't sound the same to me. I do need
to work on that. But I'm stuck on the community thing.
Like we have built a true tribe, a true community
of people, and like part of our ceremony over the
weekend was with people from our community. And like I

(31:27):
just said, like probably fifteen times in a sentence, but
you're emotional.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
We bonded with people. Every time we do any type
of retreat or we go somewhere, we make friends. And
if you would have asked me three years ago when
we started this, if we would have friends because of
the podcast, that wasn't an option for either one of us. Well,
this is a job. We want to give people the information,
help them out, and keep everybody at base so that
we can protect us. But you've got buff Bell now,
and you made really close friends with Aaron.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
And yeah, I gave my phone number out during sir.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
You made friends. You dance with a you know, next
to a fire with one of our patron members where
there's a lot of growth that's happening, and Jenny and
Zach have become people that I admire and love in
you know, family, They are they fucking are. I would
fly to Canada tonight if she needed us. Same. Yeah,
we'd be out of here in a heartbeat.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, pack up the kids, the dogs, figure it out.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah. Okay, So Melinda on Facebook said, please help. Both
of you have already helped so much. I just need
to know how to start and get deeper and productive
conversations with a very quiet person. I think this is
the third time you've said a variation of this. You
have to get them to talk to you. You can only probe.
You got to also understand too, that some people aren't talkers. Yeah,
and if you're trying to have a really in depth

(32:37):
conversation with somebody that's not comfortable having conversations, you are
making them uncomfortable and you're putting yourself in a position
where you are trying to pry something out of somebody
that they don't want to give you.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
It's no longer for them, it's for you.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Right, You're putting them in a bad situation. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Sometimes people just aren't ready to have the conversation, and
that's okay.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, some people are very introspective. Yeah, well if you
for ten dollars on a super chest said, when did
you realize that love wasn't enough? I don't have children.
I've been watching for a minute, and you guys have
changed my life. Thank you so much. Also, Peaches, your
outfit is so cute.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
When did you realize that love wasn't enough?

Speaker 3 (33:15):
When my ex husband breathing pissed me off?

Speaker 2 (33:18):
I don't. I don't have a single for instance. I
just know that I can love someone to the end
of the earth. But if I'm not being treated the
way that I believe I should be treated, it's enough
for me. It comes down to protecting my peace and
that's not you know, a protect your piece from a
selfish set mindset. I still do. I go above and

(33:39):
beyond for you all the time, at least I believe
I do. And when I'm not doing enough, you tell
me and then I step my fucking game up. Simply
being in love with somebody doesn't excuse shitty behavior. It's
like you know somebody going well, you can't can't feel
that way about your mom? And your mom yeah, well,
I'm her fucking kid, and if she's treating me this way.
This is a whole lot about her. Why am I
the one has to be the bigger person here? The

(33:59):
way that you allow people to treat you says a
lot about your self worth. Rachel said, seeing the evolution
in you guys the last few months has been incredibly inspiring.
I can see the difference in your spirits. It's so beautiful.
Thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Maddie asked if my next book will be on Amazon
eventually as well. It will be August fifteenth, is a Friday,
is when my next book is actually dropping to the public.
Sign copies are available now on the website. They won't
ship until August, but the PDF is available as soon
as you buy it. Libby said, just bought your second
book for my husband. He's been through hell with his
ex wife, and I can't wait for him to read it,

(34:36):
to read the wisdom you have. Thank you. I love that.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Roland Jenna just said, I believe we live over and
over again until we get it right. I believe that
I agree with that, and I feel like this is
going to be my last one. Really, I feel like
I'm finally getting it right.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
I don't think that'll be the case I don't think
that'll be the case. Nope, even if if one of us,
if we both don't get it right, I don't think
that'll be the case.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
I would sacrifice a lot to come back with right,
but I feel like the next go around is not
going to be as hard for me. No.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I think that we atone for a lot of karma
this time. I also think that we chose this. We
chose all the ugly ye to get to where we
are right now, to be able to truly enjoy what
we have.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
At There's been a lot of awakening happening.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, Ashley said for ten dollars super Chat, thank you
guys so much for helping me and my husband be
better humans and this beautiful world. I'm so glad I
found you both on the internet and our world's crossed
in this life. Well, thank you for that. Little Missheal
yourself said, I'm so serious about coming to have you
guys perform our VOWL renewal on July seventh. I don't
know how you I don't know how you guys go

(35:37):
about planning something like that, but I'm so in Are
you in Florida, because otherwise you guys have to plan
to be here. It'd probably be a good idea to
email us. Send us an email to be Better co
at gmail dot com. Jenny will for it to where
it needs to go. Kelsey said, I don't get to
spend much time in the discord or anything like that,
but I feel that community, my husband and I feel
the benefit of what to be Better has done for us.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
The original translation for hell is shoal. It's one of
three cavities under the earth. There is Abraham's bossom, where
the righteousness reside until the return of Christ. Well, there
you go. There's no information I never had. Fire Red
sent another super chat that said, so tell my partner
I'd like to plan our wedding in Florida. Haha. Got it. Also,
my partner and I found out we were pregnant this

(36:20):
past week, and congratulations, congratulations.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Leela is not ready for that one, Lilo. She's like mom,
she's carrying me.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Lemon for a super chat said, my mom kept me
from my dad for thirteen years. She lied, manipulated, and
gaslighted me about about who my dad was since I
was five. I now live with my dad and he
is amazing. I want to confront her, but it's even
worth it? Why? Okay, So that's the here's here's how
I view these kind of situations. You now have an
amazing relationship with your dad. Your mom did really horrible,

(36:59):
foul shit choice, my choice, and if you confronted her
on it, anything that she says or does, is it
going to negate all of the years that you wasted
with your dad? So you probably gonna lie to very
strong possibility because she lied about that. So at that
point you have to ask yourself, like, what are you
really hoping to get from the conversation. Are you just
looking for her to admit her fault because there's a

(37:19):
strong possibility somebody like that's not going to And if
you're doing that, what would that even get you? Are
you looking for an apology? Because if so, then you
can ask for an apology. Maybe the way that your
mom portrayed your dad is how she sees him, because
your perception of that man and who he is now
may not be who he was for you know, thirteen
years ago. Yeah, there's a whole lot of is it

(37:42):
really worth it? That goes into all of that. I'm
real big on that shit. Sometimes the conversations aren't worth
being had.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, I don't think a confrontation is worth it. I
think conversations are worth being Oh, she did say confront
Confrontation is hostile and you're probably going to be let
down because you're expecting something from that, a conversation of
just I don't understand why this happens.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, what are the expectations.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Right, I wouldn't be expecting an apology. I wouldn't be
expecting I know I hurt you, I know it was wrong.
I think an explanation is going to be the best
closure anybody can ever get.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Closure is such a weird thing to me.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
I don't think anybody deserves closure on anything deserves right.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I understand wanting to have like a final word or
to just apologize and clear the air. That can be
done through an email with no response. It can be
done after somebody passes away, like you can have a
little prayer, get it out of your system, but ultimately
it doesn't really change anything. You're doing that more for
you than for anyone else. And like in the situation
where they want she wants to confront her mom over

(38:48):
the lives about her dad. She's doing that because her
mom hurt her and understanding like, hey, mom, you really
hurt me with all of this. That's the conversation that
needs to be had because now it's about you. It's
not about your dad. Yeah, and it's not about what
your mom said about your dad. It's about her actions
and like the way that it impacted your life. But
even in that, unless she says she's sorry and changes.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Action, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
It doesn't matter because the apology can't that's not going
to negate that it happened. It is nice to hear
people be remorseful for their actions and hopefully that would
change her behavior in the future with maybe your grandkids.
But that's you know.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Ah, I see you giving advice about Greek. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Thank you, Angel said, I sent money and forgot to
write the message here. I am sending five dollars just
to write. I love both of you and have healed
so much due to both of you wonderful people. Thank
you for that. Thank you for sending the super chat.
I appreciate it. We appreciate it. I gotta be honest.
We're still trying to catch comments that are not just
Superchat so that we can interact and help people. But

(39:45):
the superchat's coming through makes it so that it's we're
definitely at least making money to sit here today, which
is nice. Yeah, Danny Kane, my man and I read
your book together every night. We love it so much.
We are so glad you put it out there for
us to find. Beautiful Hope you guys enjoy the next one.
I think I think your book is going to do
better than both of mine combined.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
I hate that.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I don't why, because I think that I think it's
a victory for you, and I think that it'll be
really good for you to get it out there. I
know the fear of getting this book finished and like
the apprehension that you're going to have to release it
to the public because I went through all of it right,
But there is such a validating feeling when comments like
that come through, that you're helping people and it doesn't

(40:28):
matter if you sell a copy or a thousand copies.
That message means a fucking lot. And for people like this,
where both people are reading the book and it's healing
both of them, that's going to ripple effect. And I
think that your book is going to sell and I
think it's going to sell a lot. I think it's
going to change. People are getting what would peaches do
tattoos on them? They're not getting what would Chris's do
tattoo on them? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Like, Yeah, So that was actually a conversation over this
weekend getting to explain that to one of the women
who are who are part of the Medicine Women group.
It felt very surreal to me to say all of
that out loud.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Fucking right. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna read that one.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Oh this is from Aaron. Hello, sister teaches you make
no mistake with written words, they will carry your meaning
through lifetimes to come. Chris, your second book made my
I faucets leak.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Oh wow, Well she just got into it already then,
because I was just you came out yesterday. Mini Kitty said,
just wondering how you two believe in God but also
multiple lives and heaven and karma as well.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Because we have our own relationship with the Lord.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Right. I think that people who just want to be
with Jesus in heaven may never ever come back. But
if Jesus loves us and died so that we could
be in heaven, the idea of us looking down on
earth from heaven going, hey, I'm kind of bored with this.
I want to go experience life again. Do you think
he'd be like? No, Right, how dare you want to
leave my side? I love you son, have had it?

(41:50):
Go enjoy that life. I'll see you when you come home.
How is that so strange to people?

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Right?

Speaker 2 (41:55):
I know as a father, that's what I want from
my children. I want them to have the best popossible
existence that they can have. And if they're going to
do some shit that truly makes them happy, whether I
don't like it or not. If they're not hurting anyone
and not hurting me, and they want to move to
Thailand and have a family, that would suck. As a dad,
that sucks. You're gonna be on the other side of
the world. I'm gonna get phone calls in the middle

(42:16):
of the night because times are different, Like, but go, I
love you. I hope that you fucking have everything that
you want in this life. That's what that love is
supposed to feel. Like, Yeah, not, how dare you leave me?
I birthed you, you ungrateful little shit?

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Like our children's lives are not about us.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
No, Taran on Facebook said, went through hell with my
ex and I felt the last the past six months,
I've learned how much of a pos i am and
the book has helped a lot. A lot of soul
work happening. I don't want to be this way anymore.
It's working. My kids are starting to open up again,
and that makes me work harder. Healing is happening. Love
that love that love that love that. After every live

(42:57):
or pod, my husband always says, what have you learned
from your guys today? That's funny.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Chris said Chris Dennison leather maker. You guys can find
him online. He sells really cool leather stuff. Just because
you guys are dope. Our wedding ceremony is this weekend
at least our small one person, one dude. Please send
me video and photos of that can or set up
a fucking tablet so that we can watch. You can
set up an iPad and live stream it right like

(43:26):
that would be really cool. We would really appreciate that.
That would at least make us feel like we're a
part of it since we couldn't be there. Buff Bell said,
I hope that YouTube stays the things so I can
have my son watch every episode when he's mature enough
to absorb the teachings. Well, YouTube is owned by Google.
It's not going anywhere, and if it does, we have
all of our content, so we'll just upload it to
whatever the next platform is. However, Neptune, the Neptune app

(43:49):
is a lot is live now for beta testers. I
believe it goes live today at some point when we
sat down and talked to their development team, because we
are going to be on that app very hard when
it releases. They are going to be creating a Netflix
style platform, and their Netflix style platform will host shows. Yeah,
and though it's not been stated that ours will be

(44:12):
on there yet, I want to try to have our
show on something other than YouTube that is a streaming service.
So even if we don't make money from it, just
having it there, it's.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
It's more opportunity for people to see it.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Right, Yeah, it's helping people, heal Teiko said. Currently working
on a thick novel email with dual Pov with my
husband and I to send writing it alone is so helpful.
Thank you to so much. When you send that email
in right in the subject that it's from his and hers,
so that both of your respectives are there, because those
will get pushed right to the front of the line.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yes, those we'll get priority time.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
And a little healing needs to happen before confrontation. I
agree with that day. She could have believed that she
was doing the best for herself and you now he
treats you and how Okay, I guess I don't know
what that was for. So trying to find something to read.
It's not a super chat so that people are getting heard.
Just bought your second book. Can't wait to read both.

(45:06):
Would you recommend reading the first book first? My first
one is in Canada. It will be no, they don't,
they don't correlate. The first book is really about being
a good man, or understanding what a good man is
so that you can find one if you're a woman's
That's the best way that I can explain my first book.
The second book is about reinventing yourself after hardships, after

(45:27):
a breakup or an ugly whatever. It doesn't have to
be a divorce, although I did use the term divorce
a lot, because divorce doesn't just mean husband and wife.
It means a separation, so it could be a divorce
between you and your parents. It could be a divorce
between you and your best friend. The second book is
very different than the first one. You can read it
right now. It would be great.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
I'm going to add on to your first book. It's
not just for women who want to find a good man.
It's for men to have an outline of what a
man should be. If you haven't had a father figure, yeah,
I know you did not.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Brain's going three. Birth of Sloan said, thank you both
for being who you are. I've learned much from y'all
and can't wait to continue growing with you. I love
you both very much. Only Joy, Only Joy. I agree. Yeah,
we are building a whole new little community that is
a community inside of the community. We're gonna have a
community inception happening. How do I heal from my emotionally

(46:19):
abusive father when I still live with him? Forgive him
and in distance yourself. What minimum age do you recommend
people reading your book? I think that on Amazon I
put it at sixteen and up. I gotta be honest,
I think a teenagers thirteen and up would be fine
with my books. There might be some language in there.
I think I might have dropped the f bomb once
or twice. I know that I at least typed it

(46:40):
out and completion once to make a point. And there
was a couple times where I put like an asterisk
where the you is, and sometimes I went in there
and wrote freaking like I went back and edited it out,
but it's in there so I would get WWCD tatted.
That's funny. Thank you. I appreciate that. Dean said the
same thing, Father Spirit, Mother Earth. I am signing up
for Greece. Just gathering the nine hundred dollars first is

(47:01):
proving to be a bit tough, but I am going
a little girl.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
I cannot wait to see you out there.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
How does that make you feel knowing that out of
the ten people who are current actually.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Everyone, yeah, it's all Thailand people.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Well, or people who are going to Coastarica with us
that didn't go to Thailand. Literally everyone that has booked
for Greece has already traveled with us or will be
traveling with us in two weeks.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
It feels good. It feels like we're providing something.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
I believe we are. Mattie said, had an argument last
night about boyfriend's Facebook activity. My insecurity and I lost
control of my emotions. How do I approach him today
to start changing our relationship dynamic for the better of
our family? Did you apologize? An apology to me is
not and I'm sorry it is. It is taking ownership

(47:44):
of your behavior.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
I recognize what I did was wrong.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Right, right, that's so much better that I'm sorry. I
recognize that I could have handled that better.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
I overreacted, right.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
I love you and I don't want to treat you
that way, and I really should not have behaved like that.
That's where you start. And doing that in a phone
call or even a text message is a great way
to just break the ice. Maybe make him dinner, have
his favorite dinner ready for him when he gets home
from work or whatever. Like, just do something kind and
then have another conversation in person about it, because building

(48:16):
starting the repair process over, you know, digitally, it's a start.
It's not the end. It's not enough. It's cold. Hi,
Chris and Peaches. I put you on TV for the
first time in a while. What a difference from the mobile.
We're much bigger on the TV. Yeah, it's funny, Lisa
said Hubbs. And I started season one of y'all's podcast
on a five hour road trip yesterday, excited to start

(48:37):
this healing journey with each other. Wait till you get
to the end of this and you can see how
much we've changed from season one and the studio swaps.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Yeah, right, there's a lot of redecorating that happens.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
It's about to happen again, it is. We got our
internets hooked up at the house. Well, the lines are ran.
We'll have internet on our property on May twenty eighth,
is what they said. It probably won't actually happen on
the twenty eighth because we'll be in Costa Rica on
the twenty eighth, but it's getting there. We're fucking getting close.
It's time to start building out the studio. I got
to get all of that crap out of there and

(49:09):
get it cleaned.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
I'm gonna send you a picture of what I want
my half to look like.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Okay, Ashley said, Peach, do you know uh, do you
happen to know who the author of the four Agreements is?
Miguel Don Miguel Ruiz.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Don Miguel Ruiz, Yes.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Danish said that Jake throws around. Yeah, well, what would
Chris and Peach say? He's like, damn bro calm fucked down.
I love that, Jenna said Chris. I think now that
you've begun opening up, more men will feel that tattoo
worthy connection. Women are more emotional and feel connected to
other women because of our ability to share emotions openly.

(49:44):
Maybe I don't need I don't need people to what
would Chris do? Tattoo? I just people telling me how
their life has changed is way more than enough. What's doing?

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Buff Bell messaged me? I said, I have to show
you picture of what I want my half of the
studio to look like. And she messaged me, She's like,
you're showing him that picture I sent you, aren't you?
I was like, Yes, that's exactly why I'm here. That's funny,
that is hilarious.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
She knows how many spots are left for the Grease trip.
I believe ten ten twelve somewhere in that ballpark. I
think we're I think we just booked our tenth person
last night at like fucking midnight. But you know, we
have we have a year. Guys like you have a year,
and if you're able to put down the twenty five
percent at the nine hundred and thirty five dollars or whatever,
it is you have an entire year to pay that

(50:30):
trip off. The final payment's due on February ninth. I
think I actually have a let me pull that up,
because I had the guy from Trovia Trip sent me
all of that information so that I don't have to
go and like dig and I'll be able to just
real quickly give a rundown. That would be a super
good thing to do. I am in the wrong email.
We've sold four I've sold four books since being on here.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Beautiful Lauren, if you're still in the chat, we sent
out your Your Celestine Prophecy yesterday. Yeah, I wrote in
it for you. I got that book from the Goodwill,
so there's a message above mine and I wanted to
leave it in there because I think it's a beautiful
thing to share that book.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
We bought extra copies so that we can bring them
with us, all right, real quick, Just the stats on
the Grease trip so that everybody has it. The details
are May tenth of the sixteenth of twenty twenty six.
Will be on for six days. We will be doing
Athens and Micinos. The price is three six hundred ninety
five dollars for your trip. That does not include your

(51:30):
flight right regular. So the twenty five dollars down payment
is ninety nine hundred and twenty three dollars down that
reserves your spot. Your balance has to be paid by
February ninth of twenty twenty six and it is interest
free if you pay through Trova Trip. If you use
a firm, you'll have to pay the interest on a firm.
What we will be doing in Greece, there is an

(51:50):
evening walk on the Plaka, a half day tour of Athens,
a Mikinos walking tour, a Mikinos beach club, taste of Michinos,
and then a ferry to Athens. There will be six
breakfast and two dinners included. And the inclusions are a
double occupancy and three star hotels are higher, which is
three star hotel outside of the United States is like
a five star hotel here. It's wild. When we went

(52:12):
to Thailand, I was like, there's no way that this
is three star, Like what does a five star hotel
look like? You just get a private mansion because it
was gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
You can be serving as drinks with gold in it.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Right. You can get a single room if you want
for an additional cost. A local guide is included throughout
the entire trip. We had Olivia and Thailand, and she
was able to fenangle things so that our entire group
could get tattooed instead of going to a fish market,
which was super cool. And then all city activity and
meal transfers are all included. So all of that is

(52:42):
part of the trip, which is super super cool. And
for those of you who are watching, I can put
a link into the chat. Peaches. I watched your volog
this morning. I loved your reaction to that lizard on
the tree. Lol. It was very cute too.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
That lizard got me. I've never seen a lizard like
that before in my life.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
It was beautiful blues and oranges. It looked really cool.
I would I don't want to own a lizard. I
think that's kind of shitty because you know, most people
put them in tiny tanks. If we had a giant
terrarium that was like a like Ants of Canada, buck, yeah,
let's go. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Our bond of Minium is gonna have a two story right.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
That would be so gay, especially if it was completely
enclosed and we never had to do anything to it.
It would be so great.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
We would have to have a little access point.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Yeah, don't they make full enclosures of ecosystems that are
that maintain like biodome I think so, Yeah, that would
be the move. For those of you who want to
see the vlogs, we don't post them every day. We
do post them frequently, but they're on Patreon only. Samantha said, Hey,
Chris and Peaches, I am new to the podcast, but
have been following you both on TikTok for a while.
You guys are both such an inspiration.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Well, thank you, thank you for coming over here.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah, thanks for hanging out with us, guys. Jenny said,
one day, I'm gonna show up and be like, Hi,
I'm putting this in this tiny home on the corner
and you'll just be stuck with me forever. You don't
have to just show up. You let us know and
we'll get that situated before you.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Yeah, it'll be ready to go.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
We actually looked into that because the retreat that we
stayed at. You guys can look this up if you
want to see where we stayed over the weekend. It's
called the Full Circle Retreat and it's in Inverness, Florida.
This couple, these two ladies bought a house on five
acres of land and then all it had was a
barn in the house, and they've put multiple sheds. Yerts

(54:25):
are all over the property. It is so fucking cool.
And a salt cave in one of the Yeah, in
one of the barns. They enclosed it so it's like
a jam session room. There's instruments and shit in there
in a salt cave. And like, looking at all of that,
we could totally buy a big like twenty by forty
thing shed and section that bitch off and do the
exact same thing. It doesn't need to have a bedroom,

(54:46):
and we have our bathroom. We have one on the porch. Yeah,
we didn't even think about that. We have a bathroom
on the porch.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
We do.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
We have to buy shed just so that when people
like like Jenny and them come down here. Why make
them stay in a hotel. Oh you need a king
size bed, don't worry, it'll fit in that twenty by
forty We got you. Life is wild, man.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
You should look at the picture I sent you.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
You want to read that while I'm looking.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
This is from Orion Chris and Peaches. I'm a young
man just turned twenty one in February. Happy belated birthday. Seriously, yeah, seriously.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
That's a lot. It's feasible, it's not because we're gonna
have to put a line of tape across the ceiling
so that you have Okay, well, I'm going to have
to hire an interior designer to give me my side
because there's no way that I can compete with that.
You guys want to see the shit?

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Do you want me to show them?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
There we go, that's what she wants. Podcast.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
God, Yes, I want the whole house to look like that.
I want our bathroom to look like that.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
It looks like a hookah lounge, like there will be
a giant ass hookah.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
It does it for my soul.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Yeah, all right, I'm sorry I interrupted you while.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
You're I'm a young man, just turned twenty one in February,
and this may be confusing, but I believe I think
differently than other people, and I struggle to identify emotions
from other people causing them, I'm guessing, causing me to
get walked on and other such things. Is there any
tips or things you recommend that could possibly help? So
scroll back up just a little bit. I want to

(56:20):
see for the freezing. I struggle to identify emotions from
other people causing me to get walked on. Nobody is
causing you to get walked on. Nobody has ever made
a decision for you in your life, unless you grew
up in a really fucked up, shitty, abusive situation. When
we are children, we do not have control over our environments.
But now, as a twenty one year old young man,

(56:42):
nobody can ever make a choice for you. So you
are allowing yourself to be actively walked on. You're either
going to stand your ground or you're going to be
the ground that they step on.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
I want to read this, okay, Jessica said, Okay, I
want to publicly apologize. I just had a big realization
that I seek you guys out when I feel desperate
for attention and ADHD manic PPD, and then I think
I'm bombing. My man of two years is very tourists
and set in his ways, and communication is not there.
Neither is attention or regular intimacy with me. I've never

(57:13):
experienced this in my life. I'm forty one. I'm feeling
lost and alone. Sorry, I can't afford the ten dollars
to be heard I sent my last ninety nine cents
for the stars. I think the universe for united souls,
your united souls and the wakenings blessed be. I don't
know what you want us to say to that. I
hope that you find some peace. I don't know how
you can be with somebody who doesn't know how to

(57:33):
communicate with you, she said. My man of two years
is very set in his ways and communication isn't there,
then how have you been together for two years? Communication
has to be there. It's just not there in a
way that is scratching the itch that you have, and
that needs to be the discussion. Like I need more
socialization from you. I need more attention. I need more
of whatever it is that you need. And it needs
to be a you're not It doesn't need to be

(57:54):
a you're not providing it. It needs to be this
is what I need to be fulfilled in our relationship,
and there's shortcomings and like, I don't know if it's
intentional or you just don't know that I need it.
So I'm letting you know that this is what I need,
so that maybe we can meet in the middle somewhere
and like I can find some sort of Peace.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
I would like to finish set boundaries. Find Peace by
Nedra Twob is a very good book, and I think
that book will help open a lot of doors for you.
And I would also recommend reading The Courage to Be Disliked.
It sounds like there might be some people pleasing tied
into this. It wasn't stated. I'm really just pulling things

(58:30):
out of the air and my feeling. And it's okay
to say that I don't want to be treated this way,
or I don't want to be used this way, or
I want friendships or connections with people who want to
be connected to me and not what I can provide
for them.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
It's also not a bad idea to just go, hey,
did you mean that you're really big on excuse me? Yes,
I'm sorry. You want to say that again one more time? Yeah? Right,
because it makes people stop and think, yeah, if you
are unsure, we have this idea in our head that
if we somehow don't know something, we're dumb. Hmmm, like
we're just supposed to fucking know everything. I was guilty

(59:06):
of that for a long time. Now I'm like, I
don't know what that means. I don't know what that
word is, can you what do you mean by that? Like?
And it's because I want to understand. And if I
can't understand what's going on, I am easily manipulated. If
I'm just getting along because I don't want to look stupid,
I'm gonna agree or or do something that does not
match align with who I am. And if you've got
some unlike if you are uncertain about people's motives or

(59:27):
the way that their emotions are going, to ask them.
I can't tell I can't read you. I don't know
what's going on with you right now. Can you tell
me what you're feeling like? I need to understand. There's
nothing wrong with that. And if they make you feel
dumb for asking, that you're with the wrong fucking crowd,
like find better people. Yes, ourgs rows. I appreciate everything
you do. What are your thoughts on the trend on
TikTok of couples having completely separate bedrooms? Just curious you

(59:50):
go first, because I have a lot to say on
that one.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
I think for some couples it's necessary.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Can you give me an example of why it would
be necessary?

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Sleep apna machines?

Speaker 2 (59:58):
There you go exactly where I was at if you
were a big snorer and I'm a very light sleeper,
I can't can't do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
That, right, I'm a cover. Yeah, we're gonna cuddle.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Coming to bed with you every night. Yeah, and the
moment you start snorre and I'm fucking out. Yeah, all right,
that's totally acceptable.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
They're still going to be nighttime intimacy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Absolutely absolutely. I'm not I'm not gonna kiss you on
the couch and be like, all right, but I'm going
to bed to night and going to another the fucking
room we're not rooming.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
And then text somebody else for the next three hours
until I fall asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Right. I understand that there are reasons for people to
need to have that. A lot of that does come
down to people not being able to sleep, but there
needs to be a setup of understanding of like, this
is going to be our nightly ritual moving forward every night.
This is what's going to happen. I don't care how
fucking tired you are. I don't care how tired I am.
This is what's going to happen every single night. And

(01:00:44):
when one of us falls asleep and the other one's done,
or the thing that happens that becomes a problem, we
can go ahead and go to the rooms. At that point. Yeah,
I don't I don't like that. I don't like that
at all. I understand it, I get it. I understand
there's a need for it, but the idea of that
just feels like an intimacy destruction to me. I also
don't like TikTok trends period. There's not been a whole

(01:01:07):
lot of them where I was like, Hey, that's a
really good trend. I like that. So here's another thing
from Oryan.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Sorry, Peach, I should have mentioned that this has been
going on my whole life, so since I was a
little kid. I believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
I would maybe get tested for autism, because that is
an autistic trait, having a hard time reading emotions from
other people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
I'm sorry that you were never loved properly. Oh we
love you, and it's okay to stand up for yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
There has been people pleasing you, all right, If you
ever plan a trip to the Philippines, me and the
boyfriend are so down. He was born and raised there.
I gotta be honest. The other side of the world trips.
I want to do Bali. I really want to go
to Bali, that's a bucket list item, but that's one
of those things that I want to be able to
go for more than a week. Like I'd like to
do the Trova trip thing and then stay and fly

(01:01:54):
back because we're already there. Like, that's a huge part
of going is the cost to get there. Once you're there,
being there's cheapest luck.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
But I like to do that when the kids are
older so they can come with us.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Right, Yeah, it's a teenage thing. Yeah, Jessica said, listening
to you has honestly helped me and my husband learn
how to communicate with each other and have a healthy relationship.
It's hard to unlearn all the tossic traits we have learned,
and also how to set boundaries with his family and mind.
It's hard to do but necessary. It's hard because you've
never had to do it. When you guys get comfortable, Okay,
if you look at self worth as like a resource, right,

(01:02:26):
this is this is something I have to guard and
protect them smog and my self worth is my horde.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
When when you have that going for you, the boundary
setting gets real easy because I'm not going to compromise
everything that I've been hoarding my entire life and protecting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
You realize how valuable it is, right, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
I know I just crossed things there, but yeah, that's
not Hobbit is smog my precious as Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Right, But it's the same universe. The Hobbit happened before
the Lord of the Rings. It did, so it's it's
the same. It's just timeline. You didn't maketen sure timeline.
We'll go with that. The nerds out there, anybody can't
believe you just did that. They'll get over.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
They will.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Also. No, I feel like you're not a true nerd
if that bothers you, Because if you were mixing like
Batman with Green Lantern, I can see how people know
that's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Justice leagu Yeah, iron Man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
If you were taking iron Man and putting them up
against the Green Lantern, I can see why people would
be upset.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Okay, somebody that we know that we are talking about
going and writing jet skis with just sent me a
really exciting text message. Oh yeah, there is another human
being on the way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Oh shut up. Oh that just gave me goosebumps.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Lizzie for four ninety nine said, I am in patroon
and share your podcast with my partner. He initiated check ins.
We are doing our fourth and already doing much better.
Thank you for your work. The check out a fucking everything.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Guys, Absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
That's a long one. You want to read that one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
I believe this is from the same person.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Oh, gay, I'll treat it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
No, it's an elaboration, but it's that long one that
I believe that we just read. It's not the deep
real conversation. Just I don't know. I guess I'm sad
he's so damaged and I don't think he's let himself
heal from his last relationship. It's few and far in
between the conversation, like we start to have a breakthrough,

(01:04:17):
then it stops for whatever reason and we never get
back to it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Okay, let's pause. Let's pause for a second. Two years
is nothing. You are just really starting to learn the
ticks and triggers of your person at the two year mark.
So to have somebody and expect them to just divulge everything.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Really brighten here right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
To just expect your person to divulge everything and to
be completely open and honest and vulnerable with you and
all of their weaknesses and insecurities at two years is
not an acceptable expectation. There has been conversations that you
and I have had throughout all of our relationship that
has evolved based off of things coming up when they
need to come up. You're not going to make me

(01:04:57):
rip a scab off of something that's not done healing
yet to have a conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
It make me feel better right when I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Am capable of bringing this to you so that you
know what's going on and you can understand what I
went through as a child or whatever the fucking problem
is going I will love to talk to you about it,
But until I'm ready to talk, you're not dragging that
out of me. And it's unfair of you to do
that to him if he's not ready to discuss it.
The universe in you is not going to destroy the
universe and another human being. You can't expect other people

(01:05:22):
to do that for them. Now. Two years is a
short amount of time. Five years you're going to know
a whole lot more about this person than you do
right now. Ten years will look totally different. But you
have to give space, and if you're trying to pry
something out of somebody, you're going to actually make them
lock up even harder because you're not doing it from
a place of love. You're doing it from a place
of I need this right, It's not the same thing, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
I agree. Continuing, maybe my expectations and needs are just
too much. Thank you for the acknowledgment. It means the world. Honestly,
I needed that for some dumb reason. Work in progress
maybe yeah, maybe also in an email after I meditate
and gather myself, maybe to the hills and harvest some sage.
I'll end with thank you for more than I can

(01:06:04):
word properly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
I was, but not no longer, as I'm getting lasick
this bardy, well, congrats. It would have been easier for
us to put the name of the books into discord
later than for me to sit here and try to
type all that shit out while we're live. What are
the check Ins? The check ins are something that Peach
and I started as a three question thing that eventually
became ten pages or ten questions, and now it's four

(01:06:26):
pages long. The check Ins is a series of questions
that we designed to help people learn to communicate and
save a relationship. Asking somebody how it's your mental health
doing while you're you know, like as a man, having
your wife sit in your lap eye to eye, being lovey.
Asking how your mental health is doing is a whole
lot better than going, what's your fucking problem?

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Hey, guys, a little quick interruption. If you're enjoying the content,
please leave alike, and also don't forget to comment. We
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Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Can tell there's something going on with you, Why don't
you just fucking talk about it?

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Right? So we sat down and put this thing together
to make it so that you guys can have the
hard conversations in a loving, understanding way, in a way
that is able to be given as like a report
card or progress report. And it's free, we're not charging
for it. It's on our website, to be Better dot
com under the resources tab. I think Chris rebuilt the website.
I'm not sure if it's under resources it might be

(01:07:30):
under something else now, but when you click on that,
there's a PDF download that you can download so you
have a tangible physical copy of it. Or you can
watch the YouTube videos that we have. It might be
under the dating playlist, but there's a playlist there with
the check ins, and it's a forty five minute video
that explains the check ins. And then there's an updated
video from twenty twenty four that goes even further in debt,

(01:07:50):
in debt and in depth.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
The books that I said was set boundaries fine piece
by Nedra to wob.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
I'm gonna type it. Oh no, I'm not, because it'll
make it jump the chats that bound is fine piece.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
The courage to be disliked and I cannot say that
author's name.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Yeah, now you're trying.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
I can't even attempt it. You'll know you found it
when you're like, oh, I know what she was talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Yeah, I'm not going to try white book with a
red paint line. Yes, at first grand glance, it looks
like Peaches has a wedding veil on her head from
the chair she's sitting in. That's twice, not that you've
heard that. Yes, it is the people in our life
is doing such dope shit.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
I love it. It's fantastic Christnison. It's definitely timeline. It's
the same story. Thank you. There you go, true nerd
out here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Deep Paine just had a two hour conversation with my
ex wife and it was productive as it was in
regards to co parenting because of the tools and things
I've learned from y'all. Doesn't mean it was easy. It wasn't.
I'm glad that you had the conversation, though.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I saw somebody say we shouldn't wait to travel with
the kids. We live a very different life than majority
of people, and I'm not willing to bring our young
children around strangers right now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Yeah, we have a hard time bringing the kids in public. Yeah,
because people recognize us. We did one of the one
of the meet and greets that we did had somebody
sitting at the table recording us while we were eating
our dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Bringing our children somewhere where somebody can pull out a
phone and take a picture of our kids and post
them on the internet is not fucking happening.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
I would burn the world down, right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
So there's there's a whole lot of protect the children
that we have to deal with it that that normies
don't and and and that's a beautiful thing. I'm fucking
grateful that you guys don't have to think about shit
like that, but we do. We had somebody come to
our house today to install fiber optic and saw our
van was like, oh my god, I fucking love you guys.
We've had door dasher show up and start fucking crying. Yeah, like,
there is a a safety measure that has to go

(01:09:34):
into there, and I I would love to take the
kids now, I'd love to take the kids and go
do shit. It's just not there's now, right, what happens
when the check ins become feeling like you're just being attacked,
it means you're not doing them properly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
It means a check in is not happening.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Right, you guys are arguing, Yeah, Rose, rgs Rose that
I understand the medical et cetera. It's just baffling as
the few couples I see and know do separate rooms
purely for esthetics. Okay, so right, okay, Well, if you
wanted to have let's say we had Okay, yesterday we said,
let's you want a big fucking barn tomnium in a

(01:10:10):
square that's got a courtyard in it. Yeah, I would
never sit outside in the sun, not fucking happening. If
I's skin cancer twice and it's hot outside, I'm not
doing that. However, if it was seventy degrees outside in
the morning and we were having a cup of coffee
having a morning check in, that courtyard sounds like a
gangster ass place to do it. Fucking trees everywhere, and shit,
I want nothing to do with decorating it. That would
be your courtyard. If there was a standalone building there

(01:10:33):
and I wanted to put a theater in there and
build out a theater to my specs, that's my space.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
I can do that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
So us having areas in our home that is indicative.
I have a whiskey room. You have a makeup room,
which not really much, but you have it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
It's not really a makeup room. It's kind of a
catch all where my makeup sits right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
We actually really need to figure that shit out. But
I have a whiskey room. It's become a catchall also
because its kind of what our life looks like right now.
But we have areas in our house that is ours.
And then we have shared living spaces that you can
tell as a shared living space.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
The front porch is mine, and it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Fucking looks like yours and we have to walk through
that every day to get into the house. But that
makes sense to me. Having something that like NERD caves
or she sheds or whatever you want to call them,
having a space that is yours is a great thing. Yes,
I honestly think that even if we had all of
those rooms that were like dedicated to our nerdms, we
wouldn't use them. It's just a place for us to
store shit. Because if you were sitting in your room

(01:11:26):
all the fucking time, I'm going to be in the
room with you, right And if I go sit in
my whiskey room and you're just gonna come sit in
my whiskey room, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
It's really just a place to show things off, it
really is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Yeah, A desk clan for ten dollars said good evening,
Chris and Peaches. Sorry I'm late, been stupid busy from
vacation and catching up. Just wanted to say hi and
thank you guys for everything you guys are doing. Much love.
I'm glad you're still here. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
You Jays you're partly correct about not being loved. I
was loved by my mother still am. She's my best
friend and I can talk to her about anything. My dad,
on the other hand, is the problem when I was
a baby. You'd rather get drunk and all that stuff.
He's missed out on a lot. I think holding forgiveness
for him is going to be a big healing for
not just yourself, but for you guys' relationship. It might

(01:12:09):
not happen now, it could happen in ten years, It
could happen in fifteen years. It could happen on his deathbed.
Don't hold resentment on that though, right That'll be toxic
to your soul.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Bethan He said, I asked my husband how his mental
health is while we're in the shower and I'm watching
his back. Much better results that way.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Well, I believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
You guys know each other, right like that's that's that's
the life. You guys know your person. We get a
pinprick in an email of your world and trying to dissect,
you know, while looking through that little abe teen tiny
hole you don't see so much so good, Zach said.
Check ins equal compassion, compassionate evaluations, of the current state
of your relationship. They definitely were putting it in the

(01:12:46):
chat for the books.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
I love that. Thank you guys, thank you for being so.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Helpful, Lizzie for four nine to nine said, adding that
me sitting in his lap for checkings has changed our
intimacy for the better. Thank you, Chris impeaches everyone in here.
Join Patreon community there, Jenna Ay, I believe you, Lexi said,
that's unsettling. It's so there's a lot of yeah, yeah,
it's a lot, yes, Bethany, they did. They ripped out

(01:13:11):
their phone and just started recording while we were eating.
They were taking all kinds of weird pictures, like it's
one thing to take pictures with us guys, like we
love that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Yeah, I love giving hugs, taking pictures with you guys.
I'll sign something if you want me to leave you
a little message.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Absolutely, you have to ask. It's just small courtesies. Yeah, right.
But I think that people think that we're not people
because we have a following like that, there's the humanity
goes away to certain people. They put us in a
different box than the rest of humanity. And it's just,
you know, just because we live our life in front
of a camera doesn't mean that we want to be
in front of your camera. Mommy Way said, yeah, that

(01:13:46):
is so scary. I understand that Peaches and Chris because
I am not an influence or anything like that. But
I don't post my kids, et cetera, because my anxiety
is out of this world. World is scary. Listening to
you has helped me and my relationship I'm in now.
I've known him a long time and was always been
in love with him. I used to think it was
just teenage crush, but years down the road, every time

(01:14:07):
I seen him, those feelings came back. I love absolutely
everything about him, even the flaws. I do things for
him that I didn't do for past relationships, and I
love doing it. I'm so happy our past crossed again.
He's the most amazing man I've ever been with or met.
He deserves so much in life, and I'm rooting for
him and will be by his side and have his
back always. But anyways, I'm so grateful for you both

(01:14:27):
for helping me with communication and understanding. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
You're welcome, fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Hey, guys, did you know that Troy is in Washington,
DC right now? Having conversations with politicians about plant medicine.
If you guys don't follow the Symphony Symphony of Deconstruction podcast,
we were both on it, highly recommend that you go
join his YouTube. It's obviously it doesn't cost you shit
to subscribe. But the conversations that he's having with people

(01:14:52):
over plant medicine and what he's doing right now is
a fucking lot and it's needed. Yes, shout out to you, Troy.
I know you're not watching right now, but we love you.
We really fucking hope that mar making headway.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Much left to your wife Tiffany as well. I don't
think he would be the man he is without her.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
I don't. I don't think he would have made it
without her. So you're one hundred percent correct in that.
And what does that say about who she is as
a person, because she was there in a different version
of Troy than we have.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Yeah, all the versions of him you got to experience.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Bethany said, I barely touched my phone at the Tennessee
meet and greet except checking in with the husband.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
I lost my phone at some point. I had no
idea were at Landon.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Seiko said, my husband and I have three bedrooms with
no kids. We have He has a game room and
I have a game room, library, and then our bedroom.
That's awesome. So what they want is a she shed
question mark. I don't know. Do you guys have surveys
for Patreon to advertise it. I'll take it if there
is one. I would love to support. However I can,
I don't. I don't think we have surveys for It

(01:15:51):
would be cool if there was a wait to do,
like you know, reviews. Jenny said, my Polaroid with peach
sits on my desk between two and a cell phone stand.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Oh, I love that. That was a really good picture
of us.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
A man has said, your podcast has helped put a
magnifying glass on my personal flaws as a person and
in my relationship. My man isn't big on podcasts, but
I send him snippets of y'all that resonates with me
and it's helped. You know. What you could also do
is write things down in a journal and just be like, hey,
these are things I know you don't want to listen
to the podcast. You don't enjoy that. So I took
some notes and these are some things that I like

(01:16:25):
to discuss with you and just fucking talk about it. Yeah,
Jenny said, I would want a couple's game room. I
love gaming with a significant other. That would be gangster
as we turned our living room into that kind of testimonials.
This is the word that was not Survey's testimonials, was
making a man. Andrea said that his subs are about Skyrocket.
I hope, so, I fucking hope.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
I would love to see Troy succeed and everything that
he's trying to do right now. I would. I would
give money, I would do time whatever we had to
do to make that a thing. I've either of you
read Wild at Heart by John Eldridge.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
I have, I have not.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
It's a good book.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
It talks about man, a man's desire for adventure and
craving the wild. Read that years ago. Abby said, my
polaroid makes me look very tan, and I greatly appreciate it.
If all would stop talking about it and get it done.
It my polaroid with Peaches on my desk next to
my signed copy of Chris's book.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
That's awesome. Hell yeah, I'm almost certain that I took
a polaroid with everybody there that day.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Did Yeah, you did? Jessica said, the level of unbothered
contentment Peaches vibing with right now is everything.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
My life is mine to live and if somebody's bothered
by anything about me, I'm still at peace.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
We should be. Jay said it was dope seeing the
tribe come together to support Burn It Down Ranch, and
even better that you guys matched. We actually did more.
So we and this isn't like, look what we did.
I just really wanted. I'm only only laying this out
because I want you guys to understand how important it
is that Troy succeeds to us. We donated money to

(01:17:55):
the Burn It Down Ranch, and we said that we
would don't we would match everyone's donations, and we expected
there to be about one thousand dollars worth of donations,
and we donated twenty five hundred dollars right away so
that it was there. And then the tribe came through
and donated and they got to about fifteen hundred dollars
or so, and then we donated another chunk of change,
so like we have done double what we said we

(01:18:15):
were going to do, and they're still about fifteen fifteen
to eighteen thousand dollars off of their goal from having
that final home built tiny home built on their property,
which is helping people who have been trafficked and exploited. Like,
I can't think of a better fucking thing to donate
money to. Like it's just insane, all right, Joshua Miller said,
I'm a father of three. My wife chose to have

(01:18:37):
an affair because she said she had a lot of
life left to live. Life left to live, me being thirty,
her being twenty six. I built helicopter for the Marines,
and she said that she would rather be with someone
who is poor than with someone who works all the time.
And I told her that I have a purpose and
what I do affects more lives, and she could possibly understand.
But then I found out about her and these other

(01:18:57):
people that she was with, and I have been strugg
on how to proceed forward. I come home, I'm alone,
and when I'm at work, I'm alone, and I feel
like I feel misunderstood by my friends and family. That's
a lot, what.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
A disgusting soul she has.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
You have a She's made it very clear that she
wants a life different than what you're providing for her.
And it sounds to me that this is one of
those situations where couple counseling either needs to happen or
divorce papers and need to be drawn. Yeah, because this
is not a beating around the bush. This was very clear,
this is not what I want in life.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
It was shown a very very selfish way.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Yeah, and at twenty six years old, she's a quarter
way through her life, so are you. Like you guys
are still very young. And if this isn't what she
wants and you're doing the thing that's making you happy,
this just isn't compatibility.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
To me, And that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
I don't think it's People need to realize that just
because you're not wanting to be married or like doing
the thing, that it's not from a place of fuck you,
I still love you. This just isn't what I want
out of life, and I'm not willing to give up
who I am and my security and things that make
me ha to be miserable, right so that you can
go and fuck other people like that's just not okay

(01:20:04):
with me, and that you know it just needs to
be it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
I would look into like divorce dad groups, divorce support groups.
I would avoid groups because a lot of those groups
just devolve into shit talking the person that cheated on them, yeah,
or the person that they were hurt by. I would
really look into a community if you're not in the discord,
I would check out the discord.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
I was going to say Facebook, but even Facebook groups,
most of them are debauchery and loathing and if you're
not going to gain any anything worthwhile from those in
my perspective, you know why.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
You know what the difference between Facebook and our patreon.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Is that you have to pay to be in it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
It's a paywall. Yeah, so the people who are paying
to be there are there for a fucking reason.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Yeah, they're not going to waste their money, right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Jenny said, I'm bothered that you live so far away, Like,
how dare you?

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
I know, it's such an inconvenience.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Have you both come to New Mexico? Not much here,
but there is a lot here we actually have I
not been in. That's one of the places I've never
been New Mexico. Utah. Utah is a bucket list place
in the United States. I can't believe we haven't actually
gone there yet. And I think it's a comfort thing,
Like it's kind of like Vegas, so we could go
to Nevada instead, and I know where everything is there,

(01:21:16):
but I think that I would enjoy Utah more because
I've never been there. Jay said, that's how I feel
about Chris laughing my ass off. But oh, I was just.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
Gonna say, I can't believe that somebody living the best
version of their life is to be a sluit.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Right, that's wild to me. I think that that's programming.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Oh, I believe it. It's what feminism has pushed a
lot of recent corporations. Jump on it. You'd be your
best boss bitch version of you girl, collect your bag
and spread your legs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Vibe said, get in a discord. I would be more
happy to talk to this soldier. So we guys, if
there are men listening that is looking for a community
like that, we do have it in our discord. There's
a public men's group, and then there's a private men's
group that's only got about fifteen people in it. It
is a paid group, but it's one we have once
a month zoom calls or phone calls or whatever through Discord,
and it's not Zoom. It's through Discord, but we do

(01:22:06):
calls once a month. There's monthly challenges, we do quarterly breakdowns.
We are trying to make better men out of the
people who are there. It's very different than your women's group.
I know. I say that every time, but it's because
I see how much you do with your women's group
and it makes me feel less than I'm so sorry.
There's nothing to be sorry for. You're fucking killing it,
and I'm proud of you for it. I just realize,
like women need so much more than men do, and

(01:22:29):
there's a guilt in me, Like I've thought about disbanding
my men's group several times because they're paying to be
a part of the group to get a phone call
with me once a month and we quickly run through
problems and they don't need my attention the way that
that women need your attention. But we are not emotional
creatures like you guys are. We need a direction and
go get it and they do and we check in,
did you get it? Cool? This is what we're doing now, Okay,
we're going to go. It's very different, Like I don't

(01:22:52):
know that's but I think that's more of a me
hang up than anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
I think if you scheduled more calls, people would participate
in it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
I just don't want to have phone calls and talk
about hanging out.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Then you just get off the phone call.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Yeah, then I feel guilty. Why because if people are
enjoying the interaction and they're paying to be there, shouldn't
I be giving them my time.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
I have made it very clear that I'm not here
to talk about speaking, cookies or homesteading. Yeah, that can
be done in the group chat. The phone calls are
for group sharing, seeking advice, actually talking to me on
the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
We've had one woman's call that lasted five minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
Yeah, we say anything, Okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Bye, guys, talk to you next week. I love you all, smooches.
It's they're only going to get out what they put
into it. I'm also not here to hold hands. Right,
I'm going to say once does anybody else have anything
to share? And be like all right, guys, I have
nothing else for today. Thank you all for being here,
Thank you for sharing yourself with us. Talk to you
guys in the group chat.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
William D. Manning on Facebook said let the girl get
a divorce because she's trying to live her childhood life
for being free. I wouldn't let that worry me. Go on,
because there's somebody out there who would love to leave
have his love and his devotion to him. I fucking
agree with.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
It and the life that he can provide right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
And he is. You know how many people, how many
women say that they want to protect her and they
want a man who's willing to go out there and
grind and do the things that that man is doing.
Police said, when you guys come to Utah, I will
walk to wherever you are. Loll I walk across the state.
I will walk across the state. Dude. We can get
to Zion National in two hours. That's good to know.
Kara said, y'all want to try again for the Texas

(01:24:28):
renting this year. Maybe we have the mod retreat in
November that I still need to book the place for.
We have something big every single month this for the
rest of the year. Yeah, except for July and September.
And I didn't book July because fourth of July that
can get expensive.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Yeah. I would also like to do something with the
kids over the summer.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Well, I mean we could book something with the kids
and try to get Zach and Jenny back out. The
fucking kids love them. We love them good, good, good
time vibes said to be better. Maybe you could make
a veteran service members kind of channel. I'm sure that
we could do that, and it would be very easy
to put that in discord, and it would have to
be a maybe maybe make it so that people have
to show their DD fourteen d D two fourteen to

(01:25:07):
get in.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
No stolen valor here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Yeah, all right, here we go, same guy. This is
from the soldier. Yes, I had to file Chapter thirteen bankruptcy,
so they did duck six hundred ninety two dollars from
my paycheck every two weeks, and I have to sell
my house and everything. The government has gave her free
and had to sell my house and everything period. The
government has gave her free housing and food stamps. And

(01:25:30):
I'm drowning right now. I went to the hospital to
get mental health and I'm doing a lot better now,
but I just hate that my kids don't understand why
I'm not with them anymore. And it breaks my heart
because we were together for ten years and I put
everything I had into our family and it's all going.
It's all gone. It wasn't my fault. Even if it was,
it happened even if it was one hundred percent your fault.

(01:25:53):
It happened, It's done. This is where you're at now.
So all of that, what happened happened. You need to
let it go. You need to focus on re establishing
a relationship with your children via phone, FaceTime, whatever you
got to do. If you live in the same town,
make sure that you're going out to dinner with them
and actually knowing your children. You will hear so many

(01:26:13):
people say that your kids will grow up and understand
one day. They will, but that doesn't solve the relationship problem.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
You have to participate, you writ, you have to build
that and if you wait until they're twenty five years
old to build that foundation, you might try be trying
to build a foundation with somebody that you don't like. Yeah,
and that's a very real fear, and it's something to
be aware of. So if you have the opportunity to
take care of yourself and to do this, now, fucking
do it now. Guys, Jay said, that's factual. Some of

(01:26:41):
our deepest combos last four to five texts, and I
know what I need to do or how I need
to proceed, because we don't need the emotional ties I
truly believe that men do best when you wind us up,
point us in a direction, and let us fucking go.
Not all men. There are some men that need to
be cuddled and need a space to cry on your shoulder,
and that's fine, but that's not the majority of us.

(01:27:01):
Jenna said that your women's call self care to her,
I believe that guys don't. I don't eavesdrop on my
wife when she's doing those calls. But I absolutely passed
the room sometime.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Or pop out on the front fort while I'm sitting
out there right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Or they'll be the very random scenario where we're in
the van M So I hear what goes on in
those calls, I don't hear. I hear you, Yeah, I
don't hear them, right. So, but I you know, when
you got your ear pods in, you fucking live with
those things. I don't know how you do it. The
idea of having ear pods in my ears gives me
the hebgb's that's why I got my bows. But that
I believe that self care. You guys are connecting and

(01:27:35):
like sharing energy back and forth. That's the whole last thing.
I totally believe that to be a self care thing.
Bethany said, those women calls are structured so perfectly. I
was so nervous the first one, but talked more my
second one.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
I'm so proud of you for doing that. There are
women who have jumped into the group. It's their first
time on the call, and they're just all they give it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
They're all, well, you're only going to get what you
put into it, right. I wish that more people would
understand that. Somebody said that they wish that there was
a spot available in one of your groups. I'm checking
availability right now because I believe you have availability in
some of your groups.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
I have availability in all three of my groups, do
you yes?

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
All fucking rare is that you really do? You have
nine spots in the Sacred Sisterhood and once, oh it's
just sold out. It's four to five members, but it's
has sold out. On the Awakened Woman, did you give
away a free so oh, you know what, somebody's probably
backed out or canceled and they're still in the month
That one says sold out though, but you do have spots,

(01:28:29):
so raven you said that you can't wait for a
spot to open in Sacred Sisterhood. There's nine of them
currently available.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
I wonder who it was. What about the women's Thrive group.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
There's at least twenty spots in it that one's doing.
I only checked the big two. Okay, the ultimate one,
the one that you created, the Awakened one, I think
is one that I'm going to be paying the most
amount of attention to because I think that that's I
think that that might be I might drop my men's
group and do that, yeah only, and keep a private

(01:28:58):
group for the guys who have been paying this entire time,
but just not charge them for it, and then do
a big tear. Yeah, to do the weekly calls because
I think or bi weekly calls, because I think that
working with somebody one on one is going to give
them a lot more. And I know that I don't
need to be on the phone for an.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
Hour, right, So thinking about bumping that up to ten, Yeah,
I'm gonna have to really think about that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Yeah, it's time consuming, it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Is, So phone calls are going to be an hour.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Each, i'd be said. I am so fucking excited for
the Mode retreat. Bethany said, my mom always said, I'm
training you to not rely on a man. It took
me a long time to break that and say, but
I want a man. M love that. He said, I
want to go off grid that entire weekend. So you
just talking about the North Carolina meeting or the Couple's retreat.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
I've done that every retreat. Yeah, just gone no technology,
and it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
It's hard to go back to the technology. I hadn't
been disconnected it is.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
I've also decided, I don't know, I don't know how
many people who are going to go to the North
Carolina Retreat are here in present. I have decided that
I'm going to do a sound bath. I'm gonna bring
my bulls. I'm gon this a little bit. I'm gonna
start doing them in the morning, start waking the kids
up earlier. I mean they wake up early anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Yeah, but you'll have to let me know when you
do that, because if I'm awake, I have to leave
the room.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
I'm probably gonna set it up on the front porch
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Yeah. It's not all of them, not all of them
do that, but some of them sound like tonight is
it sounds like going to the gun range without your
ear protection. To me, it's it's kind of painful. Hannah asked,
if you be a voice of the broken well drop tonight.
It's not. We did not record one this week. We
had an ayahuasca ceremony last weekend and even recording on Monday.
It's heavy and I can't do depressive conversation right now.

(01:30:36):
It's too much for me. M hm. So I opted
to not do one this week that I and I
will record next week and we'll get back on the
swing of that, but I needed time to adjust. Yeah,
Joshua again, this is also the military guy said thank you.
I appreciate you guys. I' watch your videos when I
have free time. I'll try my best to deal with
her the best I can. She's always wants to fight, yell,
and scream about things, so I just wanted to say

(01:30:58):
I appreciate you guys more than you know. You don't
have to scream and fight.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
No, you don't have to engage with that. The moment
she starts getting elevated, I can tell you're becoming emotional.
Call me back when you've calmed down.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Click.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
Yeah, she starts blowing up your your messages, leave her
on red. Yeah, and you don't even have to look
at them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
It takes two people to have an argument. It does,
and if you engage, you are choosing to have an argument.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Eventually, over time, she's going to recognize that she's not
going to be able to get the energy from you
that she's become accustomed to. That's something that I had
to learn with my ex. I'm not going to sit
here and engage with arguments on you. I'm not going
to have a three hour conversation just for you to go.
I'm sorry, I overreacted at the end of it, right,
get out of here with that. Yeah, disorganized bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
That's sorry. Doesn't fucking negate the fact that you treated
me like shit because you were being emotionally charged. Yeah,
same dude said in case nobody has told you lately,
I appreciate your hard work and dedication. Thank you means
a lot, guys. We're doing this for you, guys, so
I'm glad that you guys are finding value in it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
I saw that buff bell ask for the price of
my sacred sisterhood. It's one hundred and fifteen dollars a month. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Yeah, somebody actually answered her, which is why I scrolled
pasting it and say.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
Anything I think that was the incorrect price.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Though Jessica Piatr said, I refer to those calls as
therapy calls. I love that Tim and Miranda said men
are emotional. Are emotional, society just taught them that they aren't.
So men have a hard time recognizing when they when
any emotion surfaces. Alexithymia is very common. Distractions through direction
isn't always healing. And I say this because once the

(01:32:29):
task is over, the emotion eventually rises to the surface. Again.
Direction is needed, but is so is learning to connect
emotion to needs. I understand your point there, and I
agree with everything that you said. I think that you
took my statement of point us in a direction wind
us up and let it go, let us go differently
than what was intended. Because when I say my men

(01:32:50):
call my men's group, a lot of the conversations are
about business finances, leading the home, things of that nature.
If there is emotional conversation there, those last for an
hour or two. Like those are very different phone calls
than the typical phone calls where we're trying to get
things in alignment and making sure that people have everything.
And now that you've said that, I need to make

(01:33:11):
it very clear that we do have we hold space
for people in the men's group. If there's something going
on and you guys need to talk, we stay there
and we problem solve together. There is a space for
emotional vulnerability in that space or in that group without
allowing ugliness. I do believe that men are emotional creatures.
I don't think that we are emotional creatures the way
that women are, and I think that that's ingrain in

(01:33:34):
our DNA. It would be a whole lot harder for
us to hunt, murder and like bring food home if
we were emotional like you guys are. Yeah so, And
granted even that can be learned and removed over time.
But Marcus Elliott is in the chat ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
Hello Marcus buff Bell saying I am not leaving the
house ever again without my proan. I'm at That's one
of the best things I've ever purchased for myself.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Demitria said, just I remember literally shaking up I first
call with the ladies, but it was one of the
most healing calls, and I'm so proud of being a
part of that one of a kind and loving community.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
You did so great. You spoke so eloquently with confidence.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Iggy said, people go to Facebook to complain, people go
to be better, discord to improve m fucking sales sales
ad right there.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
Those are nuts. These are nuts. I'm eating Cashew's. I
have a sweet tooth, but sweets aren't doing it for
me anymore. After that combo cleans.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Yeah, really, Yeah, Sophie sent a two dollars super chat,
but there's no text. If you want to send your text,
I'm looking for it so you don't have to send
another super chat. I don't want to miss just because
you didn't enter the message. Sweets are the first ceremony.
Kind of killed him for me, But since we've been back,
that's all I want. I'm craving sugar like you wouldn't
fucking believe.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
I can make sticky rice tonight. Yeah, I have to
do an Instacart order a piranha mat I'm a pan naw.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Marcus said, thanks for always saying hi, Chris and Peach dude,
thanks for being here for almost three years. Yeah, Jenny said,
you guys make me want to try a retreat despite
the fear. Say when we'll pay for you, right, say
when we make it happen. Absolutely, And if you want
us to guardian there and not go into the medicine,
we'll do that too. We will hold space for you. Jenny,
you fucking say when yes, Deus said, we bring you

(01:35:17):
into the fold and cover you with a cloak that
you and have cover you with a cloak and have
you lower your armor. That's that's the men's group. We
really have become a pretty tight knited guys in there
because all the people that are there are people who've
been there for more than a year.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
The people who pop in and don't don't interact end
up not staying, or they come in thinking that they're
going to get something that they're not getting and they leave.
The ones who are there that are doing the work
are making crazy progress though. I mean, look at him,
he's fucking multiple business owner now. Like Felicia on Facebook said,
thank you for everything you guys do. Thank you for
everything you've done so far. Your podcast has saved me

(01:35:51):
and my relationship in ways I didn't know I needed
to be saved. I'm still learning and growing to be
the best version of myself, not only for me but
for my future husband. Thank you guys so much. I'm
so proud of you, Bethany said, go join the discord everyone.
This month's women's group homework is intense, but it's worth it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
Yep. I have my Women's Thrive group reading Understanding the
Borderline Mother this month. Well, for the month of May,
I have so I try to post the book Prescription
a week in advance before the month starts, so all
of the women can purchase what they need to get.
I've had women who already finished it. Both groups have
just blown through the month's book.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
It says a lot, it does. Jay said, I will
be going to the next ceremony when it's posted online. Still,
only the Women's retreat is listed. I'll let you know
as soon as it's there. Peyton is in the chat.
Hello Peyton, we're doing well. I hope that you're doing
well as well. Hello Jay, if we can so, I
know that there will be a retreat in May for
women only, which means we'll probably be doing one in
June that will be for everyone. I also know that

(01:36:51):
the one that they're doing in May for the Women's
retreat will be the last one that they do it
in Pensacola. The rest of them are going to be
in Central Florida. I think that they're going to probably
do all lot of them at that ranch.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
I would love that the energy coming from that one
hundred and sixty thousand acres of national forest behind them
was a lot top tier yep. I also have a
like a spiritual connection to that fire pit. Now, yeah,
can you scroll a little bit please? I'm gonna say, shayey,
I would love to join the women's group, but I

(01:37:23):
feel like I have too much baggage to unpack. Don't
want to put that on you guys. So I say
this almost every single call for both of my women's groups.
I want my women's groups to be a place where
you guys are not expected or feel the pressure to
be perfect. This is a place. I want it to
be a bubble outside of your real world where you
can come and put everything down that you're carrying and

(01:37:46):
be able to just breathe for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
It's important to remember too, that you're not There's no
way for you to go and just unpack all of
your bags, right. It doesn't work that way. If that
was the case, therapy would be a one and done.
You go to a one single session, unload your shit
and go doesn't work that way. So if you've got
a whole lot of things that you need to unpack,
you find one piece of it and you go on
and pack it. You just wait and you slowly heal yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
I have almost one hundred women in both of my groups,
like combined, it's about one hundred ladies, and I feel
very confident in saying and speaking for all of them
that we are here for you. You are not a
burden to us.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Lacey said, I absolutely love y'all's dynamic. I'd love to
join a group, But do you have any suggestions on
how to get my husband involved when he has already
given up on being a husband. I think there's a
conversation there that needs to happen, is why he's given up,
and then you need to be able to understand and
hear exactly what is being stated by Dane. Have a
good day, brother, Much love to you. Taylor in Life

(01:38:42):
said selfishly, I want a ceremony to happen in Alaska.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
I don't think that's selfish at all.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
I think it's possible.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Uh, I don't know. They say temperature has to be
just right for the medicine.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Right, Well, I mean they have nice, nice days in
Alaska in the summertime, Okay, but I mean you could
also come to Florida. Jay said, I appreciate you always
keeping me in the loop. Words can't express the gratitude
of potential guardianship. If you end up doing ceremony and
we have the ability for it, you know, we could
get you from the airport and get you to the

(01:39:14):
airport depending on where. That's the whole thing we text
about it. There's no reason you need to get into
that on the podcast. But Danish said, I have not
spoken once in the women's call, but it's mainly because
I'm either at work or not able to speak at
the time. But I utilized the chat a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
Yes, I love that. I love that you also show
up on the calls. I appreciate your participation in being present.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Do you want to talk about that legopee?

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
Uh again from Tailoring Life. Do you have single people
in your women's groups or just women in relationships both?
There are married women, There are women who are just
getting into relationships. There are women just getting out of relationships.
There are women who have been single for years. There
is no requirements besides having a vagina and the willingness
to be present.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
How far in advance do they plan ceremony I'm thinking
about fall. If you guys will hold my hand, each
of them. I plan on going to these ceremonies monthly.
So even if it's just to be a guardian and
hold space and not be in the medicine, well we will,
we will be bla bl I.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Mean the guardians still take medicine.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Very very small amount. Yeah, just to first, you know, connection,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
After hearing Troy's experience and then Nasty talking about how
she thought she was just taking.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
A little bit, and then it'd be like that, sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
The medicine will give you what you need in the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
It do be like that. There have been nights where
I've taken a lot and it's not done. Shit, All right,
let's let's wrap up. I don't wanna, I don't want
you to miss your call, and I I too, am
actually hungry. So okay, the longest Friday content we've done
in probably five months. We'll get back to our normal
regularly scheduled programming next week with the live streams and
the times that we go live and do the work thing.

(01:40:51):
But right now, I just I needed time, and so
did she. So all right, guys, thanks for uh, thanks
for hanging out with us. We're going to be doing
and after tomorrow night, which will probably be to our
entire Patreon, like the entire discord, not just to the
ultimate tier, where we will be going into our second
ceremony experience where we talk about our experience with ayahuasca
and what we went through and learned, probably probably around

(01:41:14):
five thirty six o'clock tomorrow night, so that we're not
here super late. Yeah, and thanks for tuning in. Guys.
We made this for you. We hope you enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
Real quick, Okay, before jumping off, I could have sworn
I just saw somebody ask about my women's groups and LGBTQ.
I do not care about your sexual orientation as long
as it's not children. You could be polyamorous, you can
be into women, you can be you could be a
woman yourself and dating a trans person. You're all welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
Yeah, who gives a shit?

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
How like self important? Do you have to be to
worry about what somebody else is doing with their sexual
life when you really think about it, that's fucking insane.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
Yeah, it boils down to you're a woman and you
need support. Yeah, and we're here for you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
How do we want to add the we made this
for you, thanks for being here. We need to figure
that out because I want to make that a two thing.
I don't want to do that. You're the author of
your life, own life anymore. I mean, it's still kind
of like that. Maybe we'll do that for the main
podcast and do a separate sign off for something else.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
But maybe we'll figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Okay, Well, we made this for you. We hope you
enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Bye guys,
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