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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look up, We've come all the things on the bottom
all wow is you you're my favorite views? But that's nothing.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
So we're back, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
What else not?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Just are we? We are gonna do a fun cast
tonight instead of a podcast. Yes, we we had a
rough morning. For those of you who are with us
this morning that watched the episode earlier, all of the
sound issues that you guys heard in Discord absolutely came
through our mixer and fucked our sound up. Yep. And
(00:46):
I'm about an hour intoto editing that. And with that
hour of editing, I've already knocked off forty five minutes
of content that we've had to cut out. So you
guys who are there for the morning episode are getting
a whole lot of content that the rest of the
world is not going to get. And I'm not uploading
the the unedited version because of all the crying and
the shit that happened today.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
So I respect that.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, yeah, yes, some things just aren't for the world.
It's one thing to do it in front of our
friends like on Patreon. Privately, the rest of the world
doesn't need that shit.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah, So I feel like friends is a very big
give there there.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We have friends in Discord.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I don't want to add to that parasocial relationship. Yeah,
we don't know everybody who's watching us. They are definitely
dedicated followers and are very much appreciated.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah. Yeah, So anyways, earlier while we were on the podcast,
I was talking about some cards that were coming in
the mail, and they came and I'm not going to
say where I got them on this episode because they're
not paying us, so why should I do that? But this,
this card says, in a world dominated by digital distractions,
we often underestimate the profound significance of genuine human connection.
(01:58):
We are I'm omitting a sentence. We are constantly faced
with the same message. Connection is what makes us feel
truly alive. These cards have been curated to put the
power of connection back in your hands. Through authentic, unfiltered
and raw conversations and moments of personal inflection, these cards
will enable you to unlock a new level of connection
with others. Inside this deck, you will find fifty two
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compelling questions, including one of our own one of your own.
These questions have been written by our guests, individuals who
continually shape culture and challenge norms, and achieve greatness. Okay,
so when I bought the cards, I thought it was
written by the host of the podcast, not by the guests,
which makes it even cooler because it says the name
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of everyone the questions. This is how it works. The
cards are categorized into three levels, depending on the level
of conversation and connection you are looking for. Level one
is the warm up. Use these cards to initiate engaging
conversations to break the ice. I don't think we should
do those, skip break to the Level two is to
open up. Okay, as you're ready to dive deeper and
build stronger connections, these questions will help you open up
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and share on a deeper level. And level three is
the deep end. Dive in embrace vulnerability and experience a
level of connection like never before. On the back of
each card, you will see a number one through three
reflecting the depth of the question. Start with level one
and work your way levels. If you're ready to embrace vulnerability,
you can dive straight into level three in the deep end.
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These cards can be used in so many ways. Be
it to unlock new levels of connection in your relationships,
as prompts to self reflect and connect with strangers. The
possibilities are endless. So which level would you like to
start at.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Let's just do one like deep deep card and see
what that feels like. Okay, I want to know what
that hits.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Guys. We need to know if we have audio issues,
because we did have them earlier. Reset everything, and I'm
hoping that we don't. That's not a hard one, Okay,
that's actually that's just a dumb ass question. Okay, and
there's no point answering. I'll read it to you, okay.
But everybody that's watching right now will already know when
was the last time you cried? And why? Ha You
guys were here for that earlier, so that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, that's true, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
What is one aspect or feature of your life that
causes you the most friction or discomfort and how could
you change or fix it?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
The one thing in my life that causes friendship friction
or discomfort?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Friction? Why am I having such a hard time right
or discomfort?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
What it was?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Me still trying to call my nervous system and trying
to have conversations with you that I feel like maybe disruptive.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I overthink a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Still I do too. That's that we are our own
worst critic in that aspect. Before I answer this, I
think it's important to recognize that the thing that causes
you the most discomfort or friction in life is going
to change based off of your current situation, because things
that happened a week ago may have bothered you, but
you're not living in that moment right So for me currently,
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I really don't want to fucking cry in this episode.
How do I word this? I know that I asked
you to be a stay at home wife and to
not work, and you gave that up to do the
stay at home life thing. And the hurricane happened and
we started doing this and it kind of took off,
and it wasn't really a job for you at the time.
It was supposed to be just us having fun, and
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it became a full time job. And I understand that
you gave up something that you always wanted to partially
make me happy, but to also make sure that we
didn't lose everything, because the hurricanes really fucking her life.
And the thing that causes me the most friction is
knowing that every single day you are working doing something
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that I told you at one point you wouldn't have
to do anymore. I dwell on that quite a bit, actually,
And I understand that you like what you do now,
right Like I know that it was rough for you
in the beginning, but you're thriving in your role so like,
and you're helping people, like we are changing lives. We
are really doing good work. This isn't like a McDonald's
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job or tattooing or you know, and we're not saving
the world. It's not like we're fucking finding out ways
to recycle plastic and like build buildings and shit with it.
But we are. We are helping people fix themselves and
there's a beauty in that. That's my struggle today. Michael said,
you could view that as doing what you want to
do and the money is just a side effect. The
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it's not about the money, guys. It started off being
kind of about the money, full disclosure, Like we were
hoping that this would replace the two tattoo shops that
we lost, and it's it's done way more than that. Now.
This is our main source of income and it's it
is a lot of work, and our work looks very
different now, but we get to do it together. So
like in that aspect, that's a blessing because if we're
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working in the tattoo shop and you appear full time
or not working at the tattoo shop and I was
there all day, I wouldn't get to see you like this,
and that would suck way worse than having to work
a couple hours a week, you know. So a lot
of that's perspective. But I like to believe that I
am a man of my word, and when I say
I'm going to do something, I'm going to follow through.
And I did and I followed through, but circumstances changed,
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and like you had a hard time with that in
the beginning, and I'm having a hard time with it now.
It's the universe, right, I don't know. I also would
like to think that even if we were making millions
of dollars a year, that we would still do this, Yeah,
because I do enjoy it, Like I love sitting down
and having these conversations with you and learning new ways
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to think, and even these fun cards are going to
provide new things to think about. Like I had no
idea that one of your biggest causes of friction was
getting hung up on yourself to talk to me. I
do know because of a conversation that we had the
other night that there's a thing for you. But in
that conversation, I wasn't expecting that, So like, there's a
blessing in that as well. Great for the next one.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I am.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, Okay, sorry that happened.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Stop that. Look at me. Stop apologizing. Baby, It's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You want to stay at level three, you want to
go to a level two.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Let's seal a level two. Let's see what level two is.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Like, how do you take care of you?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Oh golly, how do I take care of me? Are
we just like looking for one thing?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I mean, you can answer it however you want to answer.
It's open in question.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Okay, how do I take care of me?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I think the biggest thing that I do to take
care of me is to make sure that I am.
I'm going to rephrase that. The best thing that I
do for me is that I monitor my burnout. And
when I recognize that the beginning symptoms right like my
eyes are itchy, I'm sneezing, I have a little bit
of a cough. I attack it at that point and
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I implement a lot more self care and I step
back from things more versus pushing myself through it because
this is what I need to do with my life,
and in doing so, the people around me get a
better version of myself.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
That's a good answer. This is going to sound very codependent.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I don't hold things in anymore at all. I make
it a point to come to you about everything, and
in a way, you still act as my therapist and
my sounding board and my cushion when I'm falling down,
and I would not have that if I didn't have you.
So my self care and how I take care of
me is by leaning into you in moments of my vulnerability,
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knowing that I'm safe.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I'm glad that I can be that for you.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
What level?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Let's do another level too. Thank you for letting me
be that person for you.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Save me. What's a common misconception that people have about you?
And how does it make you feel.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
That I am intimidating or scary, like I am unapproachable And.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
That makes me feel.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
A lot of things, the first one being I don't
know where that comes from. Maybe it's people intimidated by
my confidence or my self assurance and how I carry me.
There's also a part of me that's like, good, don't
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approach man. It makes me feel like I need to
work on myself. And I don't know if I'm like
being gas lit by society and that or or if
I am really that.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Brash in public.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I don't think you're brash in public. Yeah, I have
to answer this question. So what I'm about to say
is gonna be very hypocritical because of my answer. But
there's a difference between you being intimidating and people being
intimidated by you. Yeah, and we've talked about that a lot.
You you know, people being afraid of you or being
scared of you and you being scary isn't the same thing.
And that's one of those things that like it's important
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to remember in that aspect. Thank you, You're welcome. My
answer to this is that. And I guess maybe it's
not hypocritical because people viewing me as an asshole and
me being an asshole or two different things. Yeah, what's
a common misconception people have about you? And how does
it make you feel? People think that I beat you? Yeah,
and they think that I'm an abuse of controlling asshole,
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and uh, it makes me feel like complete garbage And
it's the hardest thing about this podcast, and it's the
only thing that's actually made me want to quit doing it.
This is the public perspect perception of me. Level three Okay,
level three was on top. Let's go, when was the time?
When was the moment you were most afraid?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I have two moments.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, I'll give two moments too then.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Okay, So the first one is my son being born
twelve weeks early. That was genuine fear, absolutely terrifying, having
multiple high risk doctors coming in and talking to me
about everything that could happen. He could be born with
cerebral palsy, he may need assistance for the rest of
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his life, he may never be able to live on
his own because we don't know how he's going to
develop outside of the womb like that.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
That was absolutely terrifying. Having to.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Wake up to the sound of alarms going off because
he's not breathing in his sleep, and I had to
get up to massages chest and wait for the nurses
to come in.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
That shit's scary. And then taking you to the hospital
and I thought you were dying.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh the kidney. I really thought I was having kidney
failure that night. Yeah, So two moments. Okay, you're not
going to believe the first one. Knowing that I have
been stabbed and I have been shot at the owl
at the prison, I have never been more afraid of
anything in my life.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Right, because if it was a ghost, what the fuck
are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Right? So, for those of you who don't know that story,
me and somebody that I used to be close with,
was doing urban exploration at abandoned prison in Florida. And
as we were walking through the prison, we were hearing
hissing noises and it sounded like somebody was doing GRAFEEDI
like it sounded like spray cans. It was echoing and
all that bullshit. And uh, we left Block B and
was going to sell Block C, and like, we walked
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upstairs and I was joking about, man, how fucked up
would it be if that was a ghost and we
opened this door or like we found a ghost in
here or whatever. And I opened that fucking door, and
this owl flew out of that thing fast as fucked.
It looked like white lightning. Like I didn't know what
the fuck was coming at me, but it hit me
and like it didn't claw me, like it I opened
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the door I scared it like it scared me, and
it hit my ribs and like took off. I was
so I couldn't even get a sound out.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
I could imagine that you had no air in you,
nothing right, your whole system.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Locked up so fucking bad. And then the next time
we went out to that prison, it happened to my
friend who talks so much shit for like the year
in between about that. I was like, cal my, motherfucker,
that's what you get. Yep, and a second time.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
I have a third time, but it's kind of silly,
so you won't have to do a third one.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I want to give you an honest answer, but I'm
not going to put that on the podcast, Okay, im
mutus real quick. I will tell you afterwards, okay, because
it has to do with my abuse. I told you.
I told you about in Thailand at the second seminar
in Thailand. So you know my second one. What's your third?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I was.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
It was between the seven between the ages of like
seven and nine, and and I I don't know what
it was about the adults in the household getting enjoyment
out of having me watch scary movies. But that was
like a reoccurring thing like I remember for my thirty birthday,
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I wanted an iPod touch. It was the coolest thing
out there and I can play plants versus zombies on it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
On an iPod and I touch, you said, I sound like,
I said, iPad.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
iPod, iPod touch. And in order for me to get
it a day early, I had to sit down and
watch that movie where I think it was called like
Bugs or something. This dude rips his own tooth out
and like all of these bugs I'd been living in
his jaw. Yeah, it fucking terrified me. I slept with
my light on for like four weeks after that. I
just I felt like, as an adult, I find that
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cruel now.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh absolutely cruel. Absolutely that that is that is pure
like torture to a child.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
And I didn't get the iPod early because I didn't
finish the movie. Oh the Myss was another one that
was another terrifying movie for me that I had to
watch if I wanted to get something.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
But Jaws.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I watched Jaws between like seven and nine, and we
watched it the evening prior to going kayaking, And when
we went kayaking, I was absolutely terrified. I just watched
people get mauled by sharks. And I was in a
kayak trying to phrase this so delicately with a family friend.
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It was not a biological family member. And at some
point he flips the kayak and I was convinced I
was gonna fucking die. I was screaming, I was crying.
I was absolutely terrified. People in boats. People in a
boat came over and they riscued us out of the water.
I was so scared.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I got hit by a jet ski while on a
jet ski. Can't ever tell you about that.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Okay, So this was not a scary ma because it
happened so fast, I didn't have time to be afraid.
Yea real quick though. I saw somebody say that the
audio glitch was it everyone's audios glitched or just one
person's And if it happens, I need to know because
we were having mixer issues. Everyone, all right, I'm gonna
have my headphones on, skipping a little. I'm gonna just
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stop the mixer like end it, reboot it, and then
started again. So give me one second, guys, all right,
we're just gonna continue. If it happens again, guys, let
me know. Okay, So what I was saying, was is
I was on my mom and her boyfriend. She convinced
him to take us jet skiing one weekend, and he
rented jet skis and maxed out his credit cards, but
down a deposit, did the entrance the whole nine.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I'm so, does it cost that much to rent.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Jet skin I don't know about now. It doesn't, but
I also don't know what their financial situation looked like.
For us to go rent jet ski's for a date
would be a couple hundred bucks, but it was five
or six of us, or four or five of us,
A lot of people, and they're miners writing. Miners writing
are going to be more expensive. This was also in
the nineties, Yeah, the different, different timeframe, I don't know,
but we were. They tell you when you're on jet
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skis not to ride too close together because the wake
will pull you into each other. Yeah, And we got
away from the adults and we started racing, and as
we got closer and closer and closer, he fucking hit me,
launched over my jet ski, bent the handlebar of the
jet ski up, knocked me off the boat or off
the jet ski. And if it wasn't for that light
vest and him jumping off, I would have drowned because
he hit me. He jumped off and when he flipped
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me over, it knocked me out. I was unconscious with
my face on the water, and he jumped out and
flipped me over and pulled my head on the water.
And had he not jumped off his jet ski, I
probably would have drowned. But there was no fear there
because it happened so fast that I had the time
to be afraid.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
This is the boyshit that I have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yes, yes, well no, because he's not as he's not
as like reckless. He's afraid of getting hurt by a
lot of things. So I don't think you're gonna have
to worry about that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
No, you're right, he rides his bike on slow.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Okay, another level one. These level one Level one cards
are kind of fun, I think, more than the level
twos and threes. If you could be part of any
brand or company past or present, which would it be
and why.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I'm gonna be honest, there's not a major company or
brand that I'm willing to dedicate my time to.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Do like animal shelters go.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Into that could depending on this, I mean obviously if
it's a you know, a yeah, well this is brand
or company, So any company. So if you wanted to
work with animals or do like zoo work or something
that would count.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
No, I would want to do something for the children.
I don't know any brands or companies off the top
of my head, but I would want to, let's say,
like be.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Involved in it or something. What was it be a
part of, be a part of.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, something to do with either children in the foster system,
orphans trying to like donate, donate my time, donate money, resources,
and why because the children are our future and so
many of them are being forgotten and left behind.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I didn't see that coming. Why. I didn't think that
was gonna be your answer. No. If if somebody put
a gun to my head and was like answer this question,
I'd have died just now. I would not have gone
that route at all.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
What do you think? What did you think I was
gonna say?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I honestly, I don't know. I I kind of thought
I was that you were going to go on the
food route, like something to like fix the soil or
you know, do something that's changing the environment to make
us healthy. And I did not see that coming with
a kid thing. Totally didn't see that coming. I got nothing,
nothing on that one. Okay, As for me part of
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a brand or company pastor present, which would it be
on Why? That's a hard question because from the outside
looking in, you think you know a brand or you
know an organization's core values, but until you get on
the inside sometimes it doesn't look that way. So I'm
not going to give a brand or a company, but
I would want to be involved in something that has
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legacy to it, that like truly changes the world somehow.
And like you know, Twitter was one of those things
that changed the way that the world gets information. It
would have been cool to be a part of that in
the beginning. I don't want to be a part of
that now, and like you know, the change of Twitter
to X and all that it is now, Like that
would if I pick that knowing that five years ago,
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would I feel that way now?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Like?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's so that's a real question. I couldn't say Facebook
or Meta or anything like that, right, but I would
want to be involved in something that like would be
able to repair people like nanite technology, right, Like if
somebody was able to create nanites to actually heal the body,
something that could like computers in your blood, that could go, Oh,
his pancrease isn't releasing enough insulin. We need to go
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repair that.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
That would be dope.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
That's what I would want to be involved with because
that would be the thing that changes the world for
the better. So all of the handwriting on these cards
are different. I think was written by the guests on
the podcast. When you are near the end of your
life and looking back over it, Okay, I'm ready sorry
to getting me. What will you be proudest of? And
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what will you regret the most?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
The life that we built together.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
And that encompasses everything, the kids, the podcast, our vacation,
getting through our disagreements. My biggest regret not getting my
shit together sooner.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
For my kids. I feel like I missed out on
a lot of their younger years because I was selfish.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
You know, they're not going to remember any of that though.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I know, but I do.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
They're at that age now where they're gonna they're just
now getting to the point of starting to remember things.
You know that at some point they're not going to
remember a life without me in it. Yeah, isn't that wild? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I think about that.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
My answer is kind of your answers, but I'm gonna
put a variant on it because it's me and not you.
My proudest is going to be the fact that I
was able to become the man that I wanted to
be because of you. And that is not an upset cry.
That is a happy cry that I'm holding back right
now because I'm able to I was able to reach
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a potential with you and then exceed that potential because
of you, and I was able to do that, like,
that's something that I've always wanted, Like I believe that
I have. I have surpassed the man that I wanted
to be in life, and I would not have been
able to do that if I didn't have you in
my life. So my answer is that I'm proud of
the man I became, and I think that I'm going
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to be better even still. And then the this is
gonna sound so cheesy, and I'm sorry that this is
gonna sound cheesy, Okay, but the regret is that I
didn't find you in time.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
What do you mean in time?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
There's a whole lot of life that you lived without me,
and that sucks.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I almost said something like that, but I was like, no,
I feel like that sounds it's cheesy.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, but it's true. I can I can hear people
turning off the podcast right now over all that cheese.
Why because that was just a cheesy ass answer. I
understand it. It is what it is. It's it's true,
but it's cheesy, all right. If you could go back
to one era in civilization, what era would you pick
and what would your job be?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
No, I'm too much of a history buff for that.
You can tell me to pick one spot.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Macklemore asked this question Maclamore, as it's got the names
of everyone.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
You guys who bought the piss Cheep.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Piss but shi it was.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
I wonder how much of that wee can saying before
we that's far enough. I am gonna say it's gonna
be a wild answer. I'm going to say between five
one hundred, one thousand and five hundred BC.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
And I would want to be a shamatic woman.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Okay, that's very specific. Yeah, that's very specific. And what
a time frame? Yeah, and depending on where you lived
in the world or where you ended up, that could
be potentially really bad for you.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I would also want to be like a high court
lady in the French court and like the fourteen hundreds,
but like super high up to where like I'm not
gonna get fucked with, Like I also want I don't
want to get be headed, so I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Want to be the queen.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Does this sound really pussy of me? Okay, but I
wouldn't want to go past like nineteen forty, and even
then you're pushing it because of World War two. Well,
like I need my electricity bra and some air conditioning.
So I'm gonna say, I'm going to say between nineteen
fifty and nineteen seventy, I don't know what I would
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want for my job. Yeah, I would like to be
maybe radio like a host, yeah, because I enjoy that.
I enjoyed talking to people, but I would no just
just talking. I would want to cover the Jim Crow era.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Oh hell yeah, Okay, absolutely love that. I was not
expecting that. That's kind of hot. Do you want to
do something?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, I mean you got to think from nineteen nineteen
fifty to nineteen seventy or even nineteen eighty, you saw
the end of like you saw an into a lot
of racism. Oh yeah, and ugly right, and by nineteen eighty.
You know, from eighty to two thousand, like the race
thing didn't exist, Like there was still pockets of racism,
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but it's worse now than it was then, Like Generation
exit and fuck around with that shit. And I would
have loved to have been alive during the sixties to
have experienced the hippie culture and would stock and all
of that like that would have been really dope for me.
But to be able to experience, like to be able
to report on and be honest with your reporting from
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a non biased standpoint about things like Malcolm X and
Martin Luther King and all of that, like that would have.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Been Oh gosh, I would have tuned in every night.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Right, it would have been. It would have been a
very very unique situation to live in. It. I don't
think we'll ever see a time like that again.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
On you through mail?
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Yeah, yeah, I have a whole thing going on my
mind right now. You want to meet up after this
and have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
That's funny. Level three, what is your biggest insecurity? Oh,
we're getting vulnerable now you want to skip that one?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
No, okay, my biggest insecurity? Who wrote that down?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Someone named Daniel Amen Why would.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
You do this to me? Daniel?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
My biggest insecurity is that I feel like I'm not
on your level.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
How are we having the same answer?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Pretty much? It's gonna it's gonna be worded differ, but
it is. It is pretty much the same answer. My
answer was not going to be worded specifically on your level. Yeah,
but mine is that I'm not enough.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
This is stupid. Why do we feel like this?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
There's that the failure thing is very prevalent in me.
Do you think that we have the relationship that we
have because we're so alike or do you think that
that is a detriment to us.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I think that we have the relationship that we have.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I don't think it's because we're so alike personality wise,
are those kinds of things. I think it's because we're
so alike in the damage that we've experienced, and we
truly understand what it means to be hurt and what
it means to hurt other people on different levels. And
we have a self awareness about us that makes it
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hard to ignore the matrix. Yeah, to not ignore the
matrix like so, I think yes, due to our similarities
in wanting to grow be the best versions of ourselves
and support each other's independence in our character and our
hobbies and those kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I think that that matters.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Someone said, I thought this was going to be a
fun cast. How is this a fun cast for all crying?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
What are we doing to ourselves?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I didn't read any of these cards. I bought them
because of the conversation that I saw about them. Yeah,
they should have sent a warning. Yeah. Well, I don't
think that people are as emotional as we are right now.
But it has been an emotional twelve hours. Okay, what
is one topic? What topic? I'm sorry, What topic is
no one talking about now that historians will study in
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the future.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Okay, So I'm gonna try to say this, and if
this doesn't make sense, you need to let me know
the fact that we are living in a black mirror episode.
There are people on TikTok who oh fuck. Okay, I'm
just gonna say it. Eugenia Cooney. She is a thirty
year old woman who she's never come out and set it.
(30:01):
And I'm not trying to diagnose her, but she is
anorexic or beliemic. There is something going on and it
has been devastating to watch her. She is skin and bone.
Hearing her breathe sounds like it hurts.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
She she was doing a live stream and she drank
some water and she started having like convulsions, like her
body was rejecting the water. And there were nurses in
the comments, there are people who had recovered from anorexia,
and they were like, she's on death's store.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
This is not her body shutting down. It can't even
process water at this point.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Do you think she's doing it for views? Is that
why you said, black Marr, I'm trying to correlate the two.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I do believe that she's one hundred percent doing it
for views.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I think that it feeds into I'm not a psychologist, right,
I'm just his opinion, somebody on the internet who's forming
an opinion. And I do think that it feeds something
inside of her to hear people be as shocked as
they are.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
There are people out there who tell her that she's
so pretty.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
There there is a whole subsection of kink that that
happens in regards to her. I do believe that she
has a very fucked up relationship within her family. Her
mom has said that she sees absolutely nothing wrong with
what's going on with her daughter.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, someone in the chest said they think it's her
mom's the cause of it.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
She was in her late twenties.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
She lives at home with her mom, like everything is
on her dime, like she's making money. And it was,
what ten thirty at night and there's a full moon
it's not happening or like the harvest moon was going on,
and people on her TikTok live were telling me, like,
you should go outside. The moon looks fantastic. She's like, oh, well,
I really can't go outside, you know, like what if
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my mom hears me and those kinds of things, And
they're like, you're like, twenty seven, what.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Go look at the moon?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
And she ends up like sneaking through the house and
every little creek she stops and like she's panicking, like
a child who's gonna get in trouble if they get
caught up out of bed or something. And she gets
to the door and she either begins unlocking it or
she gets to the door and her mom catches her,
and she looks like a seven year old child being
reprimanded by her mom for trying to look at the moon.
(32:20):
As a twenty seven year old woman, absolutely insane dynamic happening,
and a lot of people have reported her or you know,
kids are on the app, and that's one of those
things where yes, parents should one hundred percent be regulating
what their children are doing on apps and what they're
seeing on social media. I also believe that, you know,
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at a certain point, if people are saying that someone's
glorifying obesity, and they shouldn't be making the content they're
making and they should be off of platforms. I think
the flip side could be said about Eugenia Cooney. She's
not intentionally glorifying anything, but she has over I think
two million followers. He gets hundreds of thousands of views,
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millions of views, thousands of people on her lives like
she's doing very well for herself. And there are people
in her comment section who said, like, you know, when
I was younger and I saw you, I fell into this,
Like I'm recovered.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
You can come back from this too. There are I've seen.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I think it was like the mom or an aunt
of a girl who passed away because she looked up
to Eugenia's the mess. Wow, And I think that that's
something that's going to be to be researched. The way
that everyone's just watching her die like they're really.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I don't know what you could do.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
At some point her friends had her uh fifty one
to fifty.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
They corrected, but California.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yeah, and you know, she was medically taken into a
rehabilitation center for eating and all those kinds of things,
and she got a little bit better, but then she
went she went to a decline again, and I don't
know what you can do beyond that. The cops get
caught all the time, sent to her house. There's nothing
the cops can do, Like they're not going to force
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her to leave the house because she's not eating. Yeah,
so yeah, I think that's going to be a very
heavily steady thing. And just the way that you know,
I've I've scrolled on TikTok and I've seen people simulating
like really scary shit and people will just sit there
and watch it. You could be doing anything else with
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your life, but you're just gonna sit here and watch
somebody where she was up their nose for three hours.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Well, I think that we're already having those conversations though
when you really think, well, I mean, yeah, it's it's
even happened in front of Congress, Like the social media
and dopamine addiction, that is a thing is being researched already, good,
and it is being talked about. I mean, obviously there's
a whole lot of things that's not known yet. I'm
gonna I'm gonna answer this and we're gonna wrap U
so that I can reset the mixer because they keep
having audio issues and that's going to make it really
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fucking hard for me to edit. So my answer to
this question is, I don't believe that there's a topic
now that no one is talking about. I think that
there is enough data everywhere on the Internet that's somewhere
someone is talking about what's going on. What I don't
think is mainstream conversation enough is what's going on with AI.
(35:25):
I think that all the people who speak on AI
right now are considered conspiracy theorists or like ooh, skynet.
But I don't think that. I don't think people have
enough information about what's going on with AI to truly
fear it and respect it the way that they should.
And I think that there's going to be a point
in time where we look back and go twenty twenty
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five twenty twenty six is when they had the opportunity
to stop what they were doing. They knew the risks
and they did it anyways, and that's going to end
up in the history books. If there's history books.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
That's terrifying. Yeah, are you just gonna wrap up or
are we going to reboot?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I think that we should just go ahead and wrap up.
We can pick this back up another time. We've been
on almost an hour with cuts. I don't know, but
it's it's also fucking nine thirty at night and people
are wanting to go to bed. They're already wrapping up,
So okay, let's we can do this again after, you know,
another night we can come. We have a whole deck
of cards. So this was we'll do this as a
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trial run, okay, and we can ask discord later if
they liked it or whatever. But with that being said,
I hope you guys enjoyed this. It was definitely unique, uh,
not something that we have done before.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I have enjoyed it as well. We've both learned things
about each other that we didn't know, so that is
a win. I'm going to just leave these cards back here,
so the next time you're like, hey we should, I'll
be like, okay, there they are beautiful. All right. With
that being said, guys, remember you were the author of
your own life and we will see you on the
next one.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Bye, guys,