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March 27, 2025 16 mins

There's no denying that there is a lot going on now that is disrupting the daily life of many families.  The pressures on employment, our pocketbook, health and spirituality are impacting many and causing increasing stress on the body.  If you are feeling stressed, this episode is for you!  Join us in our talk with Dr. Sandra Smith, a highly skilled family medicine doctor and our own Medical Consultant.  Don't let stress take you down.  Learn to manage it with Dr. Smith's very practical advice.  



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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Hi, I'm Glenda.
And I'm Lisa.
And we are Two Black Moms and aMic.
Between us, we have six kids,four boys and two girls.
And we're here to talk to youabout everything from diapers to
degrees.
Welcome to our podcast.
There's a lot going on affectingus every angle of our lives

(00:23):
these days.
Our pocketbook, ourspirituality, our physical
health, our mental health.
Many women are getting laid offfrom their offices where they
worked for many years.
Others are getting laid off fromjobs that they have just
secured.
And the political news on TV, asmany of us dressed out every
day.
And if you are feeling a bitedgy and less patient with your

(00:45):
family, this episode is for you.
That's right.
Today we have back with us ourmedical consultant, Dr.
Sandra Smith, and we're going totalk to her about managing
stress in stressful times.
So Dr.
Sandy is back.
Welcome back, Dr.
Sandy.
Well, hello there, Lisa andGlenda.
It's so nice to be back with youagain.

(01:06):
Well, it's great having you.
As Glenda described, I mean,there's a lot going on, a lot of
kind of current events that areaffecting a lot of families and
women adversely.
And so we want to talk to youabout ways to manage all the
stress that people experience.
I mean, I know I'm experiencinga lot of stress and that's
probably the case for Glendaalso.

(01:26):
What would you say to someonewho came up to you wanting to
know how they can go aboutmanaging their stress better?
So think about stress.
We consider the fact that stresscan serve a good purpose in
small quantities.
We think about how just a littlestress motivates us to get out
of bed and to take care of ourfamilies and to go to work.

(01:50):
But the problem starts whenstress becomes chronic and it
can have a biologic, physiologiceffect on the body that can be
very damaging.
And many people are familiarwith that.
Yeah, because I think with, youknow, people losing their jobs
or threatening, you know, lossof employment, that's sort of
like a stress event that comeslike crashing down at you at

(02:27):
once, you know?
And the thing about thesehormones and these chemicals
that are released, if they'rereleased over a long period of
time, they can have deleterioushealth effects.
You think about cortisol.
It's a stress hormone, but itcan increase your blood sugar

(02:48):
long term.
You think about leading todiabetes and making your body
resistant.
So that can lead to diabetesalso?
Cortisol is long termstimulation with cortisol.
People are often familiar withthe use of prednisone.
And if you use prednisone toolong, it can raise your blood
sugar.
Sometimes it's used for certaintypes of arthritis.
But cortisol is a similarhormone that can cause that sort

(03:11):
of effect on the body.
You also think about likeadrenaline and norepinephrine.
Adrenaline, it rushes into yourbloodstream when you're in a
stressful situation.
But long term, it can raise yourblood pressure, increase your
heart rate.
And all of these things canactually damage your body, lead
to heart attacks and strokes.
And long term blood pressureproblems, as we know, can be

(03:34):
very dangerous.
Well, thanks for sharing that.
It kind of opens my mind tothink about we as black women
are already faced with a lot ofthis high blood pressure and
diabetes issues.
And you add the element ofstress to it.
It's a ticking time bomb.
That's actually true.
All these hormones are releasedinto your body.

(03:54):
They're good for a short period,but long term, they can be very
damaging.
And another thing that stresscan do is interrupt your sleep.
You know, starting with thebrain, it can cause you to lose
focus long term, affect yourconcentration, interrupt your
sleep.
When people are stressed, theyworry.

(04:15):
They often have a hard timefalling asleep.
Their mind's racing.
They wake up frequently duringthe night.
And all of these things can haveharmful effects on the body.
Considering all that ishappening around us in this
country right now, How do we goabout managing this stress?
Since we can't really say thatwe're going to ignore it because

(04:36):
if you lose your job, you'regoing to be stressful and it's
not like you can ignore that.
If your kids are going through aperiod of stress, it impacts you
even if you don't want it to.
I'm speaking from experiencehere.
So what do we do or what can wedo?
First, you really need to takecare of yourself.
Unless you have minor childrenwho depend on you for food and

(04:58):
clothing, then we have to reallylook at ourselves first and
think about taking care ofourselves.
Well, everybody says that,though.
And it is really important.
It's just so hard to do, youknow?
Well, it depends on the person.
It depends on the priorities inyour life.
Sometimes you have to take agood look at things around you.
Unless somebody's in serioustrouble, sometimes you have to

(05:21):
say, let me think of me first.
Let me eat properly, get theextra Yeah, I guess like put
your own oxygen mask on first.
Dear you.
Oh my God, I was thinking thesame thing.

(05:42):
How many times as moms orparents, you know, Have you
heard that?
Put your own oxygen mask onfirst, but you don't do it.
I'm guilty.
I'm confessing right now.
And I want to be better becauseI truly do believe what Dr.
Sandy is saying, that if you areburnt out, there's no way you
can really help them.
And so lately I've beenthinking, oh, I should go back

(06:04):
to doing yoga, but I don'treally want to be in a room with
a bunch of other stressfulwomen.
And you don't have to be.
Now that the weather's so nice,you can take a 30-minute walk,
even a 15-minute walk, just toget out into nature by yourself,
meditate, just focus on you.
And you can avoid being in aroom with other people
exercising.

(06:24):
Based on the state of what ishappening right now in our
country and in being in my 60s,it's bringing back memories that
I would prefer not to remember.
And it's frustrating because Idon't want my children or I
never wanted my children.
Yeah, they're all adults andgrown.
I never wanted them to have toendure some of the types of

(06:47):
situations that we seem to begoing toward in this country at
this particular time.
So part of me, it's like I sendthem motivational things in the
morning to get them started ontheir day or to help them like
this too shall pass.
And still I rise from MayaAngelou, right?
And I don't want to be thisworried, but I don't know how to

(07:10):
calm my mind from this worry.
That's meditation though.
That can help calm your mind.
You know, we did a prior episodeon meditation and it's something
that you can do that for thatmoment, it can calm your mind
and it's supposed to like loweryour blood pressure.
And there's simple guides tomeditation if you've never done
it before.
You can go online and find waysto meditate.

(07:32):
There are apps available aboutmeditation.
It doesn't have to be anythingfancy or formal, but it can
teach you how to focus in onyourself, on your breathing, on
the moment.
Also, finding community withlike-minded people is an
important way to help deal withthe stressors that we're
experiencing during this currenttime.

(07:53):
That's when friends come inhandy.
So sort of in summary, when youthink about ways to cope with
your stress, remember to focuson yourself first.
How can I be my best so I canhelp others?
Think about your diet.
You know, cut out that extrasugar or salt.
Try to eat plenty of fruits andvegetables.

(08:13):
Try to follow a low-fat diet.
Exercise.
Nothing complicated.
Do a few simple weights.
Make sure you get enough sleep.
And watch less TV.
TV's okay.
Unless it's Netflix, maybe.
And always remember therapy.
Always remember therapy.
If you really think you needsome help or just need somebody
to talk to who's objective, youknow, reach out to a behavioral

(08:35):
health specialist who can giveyou some guidance.
That's a great idea.
There's a lot of virtual mentalhealth services happening right
now that are available to peoplein So that is a really great
idea.
Yeah.
Like another thing is thatbecause I guess people probably
think of seeking out a counseloror mental health professional if

(08:55):
they're in dire straits.
But you don't have to wait untilyou're in a black hole.
It's common for people to havetherapists that they meet with
regularly to just sort of sortthrough their world and their
life.
You know, and that's probablythe best time to contact the
therapist.
There's usually a stigma.
So around getting mental healthor asking for mental health.

(09:15):
I'm here to tell you that it'sokay that you really should
reach out to get mental health.
And sometimes if you're notcomfortable talking to someone
who you don't think gets you,there are different
organizations where you can lookfor mental health providers that
look like you.
There's also like if you workfor the federal government,
there's the Employee AssistanceProgram.

(09:36):
Ah, yeah, that's true.
I think you'll get up to like 10or 12 or 15 sessions at no cost.
Right, because it's not cheap toget mental health.
And there's a lot of places thatdon't take insurance.
So you just got to keep lookingfor the right place for you.
So don't be shamed orembarrassed by the fact that you
need to reach out to get mentalhealth.

(09:57):
Yeah, that's a very importantthing to remember.
And hopefully that's the stigmaof seeking out mental health
care.
is subsiding, I think, with someof the public service
announcements that have beenaround that may be helping.
And it's even quite fashionableto have a therapist, I would
say.
Yeah, your BFF can't necessarilybe a therapist.

(10:19):
No, you actually need somebodyobjective to help you out, to
really look at your issues,somebody that doesn't have any
skin in the game.
Yeah, that won't judge, right?
Right, that won't judge.
Be open to it.
There's a lot of good therapistsout there, whether or not it's a
licensed counselor, apsychiatrist, a psychologist, a
social worker.

(10:40):
There are a variety of differentavenues to search out for mental
health.
Since we are talking aboutmanaging stress, doing the
stressful times with our medicalconsultant, Dr.
Sanity.
And how do we go about helpingour families?
And you want to give them thesame guidance that we've talked
about here tonight.
You want to talk to them aboutgetting enough rest, eating

(11:00):
properly.
taking a look at their lives tosee what direction they want to
go in, seeking therapy if theyneed it, and just living a
healthy lifestyle.
There's always going to besomething to worry about.
And we really just have toprioritize what things are
important to us.
Take care of yourself first andeverything else will fall into

(11:20):
place.
Don't watch so much news on theTV, which that creates a lot of
stress for me, quite honestly.
Well, not only the TV, kind ofstay away from social media.
Oh, that's true.
That's another thing, too, likethe kids with social media,
which is almost impossible.
Right.
That's why all the electronicsneed to be out of the bedroom.

(11:40):
Set a regular time for bedbecause there are people that
actually sleep with theirdevices.
And that's a no-no.
But it's impossible with teensespecially.
Right.
But we have to set our rules.
And that's a time when everybodyshould sit down and discuss
what's going to be thehealthiest for them, what will
improve their grades, and whatwill make them feel less

(12:02):
stressed.
And it's been shown that peoplewho don't use their devices for
a week at a time or even a fewdays at a time feel more calm,
are resting better, aredigesting their food better, are
interacting with their familyand friends better.
It's interesting you talk aboutThose are really great points.
But I don't see students lettinggo of phones.

(12:25):
I mean, it's very addictive, notjust for teenagers, for
everyone.
Yeah.
And that was actually a scaryfeeling, but I'm always nervous.
Are my parents, you know, isthere going to be an emergency
with my parents?
Or is my daughter going to reachout to me about tell me
something about whatever?
Yeah.
And that's hard.
That's why we have to work onstepping away.
It can be very addictive andit's more dangerous, especially

(12:45):
for minors because of socialmedia and the pressures that
they put on those individuals tobe a certain way or to act a
certain way or to be with acertain group, which you may not
see in adults.
Some adults may be affected bythat, but that sort of area
doesn't affect adults in thesame way.
Yeah.
In all honesty, I think thatwhole social media is a whole

(13:07):
nother episode of the impact ofsocial media on your mental
health and your ability tofunction.
whether you're a high schooler,middle schooler.
Grown ass woman.
I wasn't going to say it, butthere we go.
I said it for you.
There we go.
But I will say that it's harderand harder to stay off of it a

(13:30):
little bit now because there'sconstant changes happening
around us.
And maybe that's a reason to notbe on it because you hear one
change, you get all worked up.
Then there's another change andyou get all worked up.
So then you're back to stressagain.
So maybe there's a reason tojust date a hell off your phone.

(13:50):
Yeah.
I think that's right.
People also like, you know,they're using it for...
like legitimate news too, whichis.
You can read the news.
There's one thing about, youknow, there's one thing to read
the news.
Using social media as likelegitimate.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Well, that's, yeah.
Might not have a basis in fact.
Right.
Exactly.
Talking about TikTok tells useverything.

(14:10):
Yeah.
On TikTok, you can learn allkinds of stuff.
You can.
And you know who told me thathad a sit down talk with me?
My children, my adult children.
They were trying to get you off.
They're like, mom, I think.
You need to get off TikTok.
And I'm like, OK, maybe there'sreally a problem here.

(14:31):
I would say, oh, no, but it'show I take a break from what I'm
studying.
You know, and they're like, butyou're studying mental health,
but you're obsessing TikTok.
So message delivered, messagereceived.
And I got off of TikTok.
Oh, look.
See, there you go.
Yes, right.
You're open to learning.
See, right.
I'm open.

(14:51):
I'm a lifelong learner.
But I do like TikTok.
I'm not going to lie.
You have to monitor yourself.
Yeah, I'll monitor myself.
And I remember when my kids wereyounger, we would just play
TikTok Toe or something, youknow, while we were waiting for
the food or whatever.
But now when I see people withtheir kids going out I just see

(15:14):
kids with tablets.
Tablets, yeah.
And not necessarily interacting,which, by the way, parents, it's
very important for your childrento interact with you at all age
levels, particularly whenthey're young.
It helps develop theircommunication skills, their
socialization skills, and theirability to be patient and wait

(15:34):
their turn for something.
And I'm not seeing a whole lotof those skills these days in
school settings.
So maybe we need to go back tosome of the old school ways of
interacting with our kids versususing tablets all the time.
Just saying.
I know we're all stressed andsometimes giving them a tablet

(15:56):
lets you breathe for a moment,but let it be for a moment and
not for years.
So remember, focus on yourselffirst, get your own body in
order, get your own mind inorder, and you'll be perfect for
everybody else.
Be sure to check us out on ourwebsite at
www.twoblacklomsatamic.com wherewe hope that you will subscribe.

(16:20):
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Hey, thanks for joining ustoday.
This is Glenda.
And this is Lisa.
Two black moms and a mic, andwe're signing off.
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