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Ever wondered how global events like a pandemic can reignite old flames and spark new beginnings? Let us take you on a journey through the heartwarming story of Morgan, a dedicated veterinarian, and her childhood friend turned partner, a geophysicist. They share the fascinating parallels between their professions while uncovering how unexpected circumstances during COVID-19 rekindled their romance. Listen as they reveal the unique dynamics of a "COVID Ship" relationship and draw intriguing connections between medical imaging and geophysics.

Feelings of vulnerability can often be seen as weaknesses, but what if they were actually strengths? Through candid discussions, we challenge societal expectations of strength, particularly for men, and explore how embracing vulnerability can fortify relationships. Morgan and her partner bring humor and honesty to the table as they share personal anecdotes about overcoming injuries and fluid gender roles, illustrating how partners can complement each other by defying traditional norms. This episode underscores the importance of communication, understanding, and support in crafting resilient partnerships.

In a world where remote work is on the rise, have you ever considered the impact on our lives and work culture? We spotlight the transition from traditional work models to results-oriented environments, the perks of reduced commutes, and increased flexibility. However, the episode doesn't shy away from discussing the geographical hurdles of commuting in Texas and the essential role of in-person interactions. We round off with a celebration of Dr. Morgan's achievements and encourage our audience to engage with us through likes, subscriptions, and insightful questions, paving the way for future enlightening conversations.

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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome back to another episode of Two
Generations, one Mic, and todaywe have a couple of interesting
guests.
And since we are talking aboutrelationships, today's episode
is called COVID Ship.
For you that you don't know,covid Ship is like the
relationships that nurturedduring COVID.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
So we met this couple , very interestingly enough, at
a restaurant and we startedtalking to them and you may
recognize Morgan here she is DrMorgan and she is a veterinarian
and her boyfriend here.
They both went to Texas A&M andI recognized the rings right

(00:43):
away because I paid for TexasA&M for my daughter.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Lucky Tiffany.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Lucky her with no college debt.
So I always recognized thoserings and we were very excited
talking to you guys.
We thought you have aninteresting story and you met
during that time.
So you are a doctor ofveterinary medicine and you have
an engineering degreegeophysics, geophysics degree.

(01:09):
So what, exactly?
What is that degree called?

Speaker 4 (01:11):
so geophysics falls underneath, like the science of
geology.
Um, geophysics is more.
Think about geophysics in theway that we use medical imaging
to understand what's going on inour bodies in a non-invasive
way, which you probably relateto with ultrasounds.
But geophysics, you're usingphysical means to see what's
going on underneath the earth'ssurface without drilling holes

(01:36):
or digging.
It's useful primarily in oiland gas, water, excavation,
minerals.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
So kind of like LiDAR and things like that, like all
the kind of like.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, so LiDAR would be.
Lidar would still be above thesurface, things like
ground-penetrating radar or GPRIf you like, ancient aliens as a
show.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Oh, we love that show .

Speaker 4 (02:00):
So to find some of those lost, hidden civilizations
?
Ground-penetrating radar, theyuse geophysicists all the time
to find those locations Right.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
And Graham Hancock is another one of our.
We're huge fans of GrahamHancock and watching his stuff.
We've seen him on Rogan andwe've seen him on a bunch of
things and we just he'sfascinating.
And they keep finding more andmore amazing structures down in
Latin America that they'refinding with that kind of radar.
So it's really fascinating.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
That's a fun.
That's really fun.
I didn't think that wasgeophysicists.
I didn't.
I don't know what I thoughtthey were.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I don't know what I thought.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
they were Just people running radars.
I didn't think about, oh,geophysics.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, there's a lot of applications to it.
It's a cool field of study forsure.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's cool.
So how long you guys beentogether, we've been together
for four years yeah ouranniversary was yesterday
actually.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh wow, Anniversary, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
And you met.
Tell us the story.
So this you met during.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
No, they met before.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Oh, before COVID yeah .

Speaker 1 (02:59):
So we actually have known each other since we were
11.
We grew up like going to thesame schools and things, Swim
team, Swim team together, thosesort of things.
So we've known each other, beenfriends for a really long time
and kind of were friends throughcollege and everything.
And then I kind of like losttouch.

(03:19):
And then during COVID I was offof school for vet school.
I couldn't do anything thatsummer.
Usually I would be doing aresearch project or a study
abroad or something like that.
But with COVID I couldn't doanything.
And so I came back to myparents' house and he was in
town at his parents and so wewere like, you know, he reached

(03:41):
back out and was like, hey, youknow, let's go get dinner and
then kind of, the rest ishistory from there.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
So yeah, we, uh.
So we first met up.
We went to go get like a simpledinner and I was like man, it's
just going to be great catchingup with her.
And then that dinner turnedinto us going to a wine bar and
getting dessert, and then Ithink we got like a cocktail or
something like we, we, spentlike like like uh, what was
supposed to, what I thought wasgoing to be like an hour and a
half dinner turned into like wehung out for like six hours

(04:08):
straight or something.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
It was incredible.
Yeah, did you guys like, didyou guys always liked each other
?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
or it was like oh, definitely, yeah, I went.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I'm speaking for myself, absolutely, I mean, I
guess we technically we datedfor a little bit like in high
school, but you know how muchyou can count that.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
I don't know um, but yeah, so, um, no, we definitely
like, had liked each otherbefore that, but, um, covid was
really like the reason that we,you know, actually started
dating and, you know, going wellI mean because, well, one of
the like things that I stillwouldn't be like, fascinated by
is you weren't supposed to be inCyprus during the summer.

(04:44):
You're supposed to be in by is.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
You weren't supposed to be in Cyprus during the
summer, you're supposed to be inItaly For, well, I was supposed
to be in Italy for spring breakbut I wasn't supposed to be in
Cyprus because I was supposed tobe doing my research stuff,
which was like in Colceiton andother places.
So, yeah, like, if COVIDwouldn't have happened, like we
may not be together because we,you know, wouldn't have been in
the same town, I would have beenoff doing my other stuff.
Who knows who I would have met,you know, going abroad and

(05:07):
doing all those sort of things.
And so, yeah, you just, younever know what's going to
happen.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
It's truly amazing how much, on both sides, covid
affected the world.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
And both on the sad side and also on the happy side
and what it caused for theentire world and how things
changed.
And your story is not unique.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, so I have an interesting fact you know I love
interesting facts, so doingsome research and so all the
people that started datingduring COVID time, they have
broken up this year and a lot ofthese people are like these
couples.
The men is the one that arebeing dumped by the women and I

(05:57):
really think, like I always say,relationships are very
complicated and when we startedall this process of confinement
and everything, I just thinkeverybody felt vulnerable and I
just think that somebody thoughtthey've maybe like their uh
emotional support person kind ofsaying right and I, but with

(06:20):
you guys I don't see thatbecause you guys knew each other
before then.
It was just like COVID was thecatalyst for us.
Yes, it was the serendipitythat got you guys together and
that it was meant to be.
I always say all the thingshappen for a reason.
Good or bad, they happen for areason.
And then when you remember them, they're like, oh, thank God,
because I'm pretty sure you weresad that you were not going

(06:42):
somewhere.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, absolutely, I was pretty sure you were sad
that you were not goingsomewhere.
Yeah, absolutely, I was likeyou know, this is going to
affect my career, like you know,not getting to do these things
that I wanted to do.
What am I going to do with mysummer?
You know I worked some andthose sort of things.
But, yeah, definitely likegoing into.
It was definitely a little bitbummed about, you know, all of
the negative things that werehappening because of the
lockdowns and everything, but wehad no idea that it was going

(07:04):
to kind of like spark the restof our lives really.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
That's amazing.
Like I just again, a lot ofpeople got divorced during COVID
because they couldn't standeach other.
Other people met some otherpeople and some people like us.
You got AFib, I got some chestproblems, but most of them, I
mean, you guys, found each otherand that's.

(07:29):
That's really cool, like what's.
Is there something like youguys think, since you guys have
known each other for a long time, was it easier to get into like
a, like a point in yourrelationship where you like felt
more um, how do you say like um, comfortable with each other?
Like you guys, I don't know,when you start dating somebody,

(07:52):
you know, like you always havethese things.
Like me, for example, I didn'tlet him see me pee for the
longest time because I was like,no, like it all took us to go
to spain and don't have a doorin the bathroom that I was like,
okay, now he has to see me pee.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
And, and I don't know for you guys, since you guys,
now I can't stop watching it Imean, yeah, because we, we just
we grew up together, so therewas always that level level of
like comfort between us.
Um, so I don't, I mean, I don'tknow that we really went
through like an awkward stagewhere we just we've always been

(08:28):
comfortable with each otherbecause we grew up, you know,
together I actually totallydisagree.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
You do, I so, and not on your end.
But I am such a stubborn ass Iwould not ask for help with
anything that's's true.
Like and we had problems whereI, like both of us are so type A
, where we love doing things, welove helping people Like we.
Just we like to be involved.

(08:55):
Um, I have a tendency tooverload my schedule and over
commit to things and then wouldfail to be like, hey, like.
I really need help withsomething, etc that's um, so I
tore my pectoral muscle back in2022.
Like was in a sling for eightweeks, ten weeks or something.

(09:15):
I couldn't bathe myself, Icouldn't drive myself, so she
had to.
Like anytime that we wanted togo out on a date or, if we like,
had to take a trip somewhere.
Like anytime that we wanted togo out on a date or if we like
had to take a trip somewhere,she had to be the one to buckle
me, drive me.
And that really forced me to belike okay, like I need to ask
for help.
I have no choice but to be likevery humble and honest about

(09:37):
like what I'm having a difficulttime with and that's just been
able to really blossom and likemake our relationship much
stronger where.
I feel a lot more comfortablejust being like hey, like it's
not a big deal for me to ask forhelp.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Like if.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
I'm having a hard time with work, or if I need to
run something by you, it's.
I'm not being a burden.
I'm trying to engage with youas my partner, to be like yeah,
I need help here.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Oh, that is that is interesting and that could be
like daunting, right.
Like especially when you'redating with someone, right, like
I mean at this point in ourrelationship, me and Mark, like
I know, if he breaks something,I'm going to have to like be
there.
I have to be there, right, likeI don't have a choice, right,
and I wouldn't like just let himbe there, like by himself.

(10:21):
But when you're dating like itwasn't your responsibility, like
you, you didn't have to do it,so so that's when you see
somebody like that's when yousee someone's true character
exactly in the in the good timesand also in the bad times,
because in life I mean amazingif all the life is good, but you
usually have bad moments too.

(10:42):
And that she was there that's,that's a good thing.
Would you be there for me, pepe?
Yeah of course you're better hedoesn't have a choice.
He doesn't have a choice.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
He knows that no, you have to be there it never
really felt like a choice for me.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
It's just, you know, like he's my partner and of
course I want to like help himthrough those things.
But it was hard, like at firsthe because he moved back in with
his parents actually when itfirst happened and he didn't
want me to come over and helpand he didn't want me to see him
like that it was embarrassing,yeah, and so that was like a
hurdle, yeah it's fine.
It's not like you were coveredfrom head to toe, I know yeah, I

(11:17):
think it was just like a mentalthing for him to like get over
as far as like um, you know,thinking that I like will see
him differently if he's like notin this, like vulnerable state,
like a weak guy.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, so I tore the muscle completely off the tendon
, Like I couldn't use my leftarm at all.
Yeah, and so for me, like mydad had to bathe me, I couldn't
dress myself.
Like it was so humiliating.
I thought to be like she'sgoing to see me as weak, Like
I'm not going to appear strongto her ever again.
Like, oh my gosh, and reallylike it took us kind of working

(11:50):
together and her being verydirect, Like hey, like I'm here
to help.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
That's such a man thing, Totally Well absolutely
Not you.
You really like.
Let me do a lot of the man workat home.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Well, yeah, when it comes to fixing stuff, I can't
fix anything.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, he's always like call the Mexican.
Oh wait, you are the Mexican,oh my God.
So yeah, no, I like to do stuffat home and I'm like, okay,
move, because he will takeforever to fix something or he
wouldn't do it right.
Again, he will call somebodyand I'm not going to pay.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
I wouldn't do it right, or perhaps I'm not doing
it right on purpose.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Maybe you didn't learn how to do it on purpose.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I know that's what he is, but he's always like I mean
, I'm like the man of the house,right?
He's always saying, oh, thankGod, we have a man in the house,
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
She fixes everything from electrical to plumbing.
She puts in sinks, she'll putin a new, she's put in new
stoves and microwaves anddishwashers, and she, just she,
can do any of that stuff.
Handy, handy there you go but.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I see what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Like men, and we actually had an episode about
talking about this, like whywomen prefer bad boys and not
per se bad boys, but justknowing that that guy is
stronger.
Or like, um, because as aevolutionary thing, we as women
search and seek for the strongermale right, and that happens in

(13:19):
nature, like you see it, withanimals, and we think that if
somebody is nice or, like yousay, weak, we're gonna be like
in our subconscious, we don'tthink that person can protect us
right, which is not really thecase, because it was just
temporary and it's not likeshe's looking at you like saying

(13:39):
, oh no, this guy can't move hisarm now.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Gotta go, gotta go.
Next he's weak.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
He won't be able to hold the club if the village
gets attacked.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Subconsciously, he's going to hold the pitchfork.
It's not going to be me, right.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
But you know, I mean I think you grow and you'll find
out that more and more thingswill happen and you may get to
return the favor someday.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Now you have to return the favor.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Well, I think that one thing that we have always
done a really good job of like,even as friends, so like we're
both the oldest child and when,when shit hits the fan, when
something happens like we, Ithink we really do a good job of
like locking in and being likethis is what needs to get done.
you go here, I'll go here, readybreak yeah so, then, for me to

(14:29):
be like I feel very broken rightnow, like I need help with
something I wasn't sure how todirect that, but now that you
know we've like learned throughthat together, I think that I
mean really it's made ourrelationship a lot stronger.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
And she doesn't get as irritated because I'm like I
need help and she was like thankyou for asking.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
That's me.
I never asked for help.
I'm like I can do it.
Help like I'm like I can do it.
And usually if I ask for help,this guy is like he takes
forever to to help me.
Like I'm like, babe, help mewith this, never mind, I'll do
it myself.
He's like I was coming.
I was like what do you do?
In the process he went to thebathroom, started shaving.
I don't know I had to shave myarms, which is apparently a

(15:12):
topic that keeps coming up onthese episodes if you guys
haven't seen that I swear likethis, like this guy, always we
have to leave the house, we haveto do something.
Hold on, I'm going to shave myarms Apparently.
It's very important, but if Ineed help immediately, I just
learn not to ask for helpBecause with my ADD, like it's…
you just want it done like now,yeah, now, like now, like now,

(15:34):
or I'll move into something else.
So this is a moment where Ineed this project to finish and
if I am determined to finishthat, I want to do it right now.
So if he, like, we got thismattress delivered to our home
because we bought a new mattressand Amazon was running this
special and it cameshrink-wrapped and like a vacuum

(15:55):
sealed in my head, I thought Ican, I can bring this upstairs
myself, not a chance, athree-floor.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
We have a three-story townhome.
Like she's gonna drag this upthree stories because our
bedroom is the top floor hecomes down and he's I'm sweating
, I'm like he's like need.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I was like yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I do need help.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
But it's hard.
I understand your point of view.
It's hard to ask for help whenyou're like a very independent,
self-sufficient person,Absolutely yeah, it had nothing
to do with me not trusting her.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
It was very much like I can do it.
I can take it on all on myselfmyself, which, like therein kind
of lies the problem, becausethat leads to breakdown in
communication and, um, you know,she assumes like, well, like,
why doesn't he want my help?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
like I'm here to help um yeah, there's nothing wrong
with having to ask for help atall at all um and what so in
your relationships, in yourrelationship, how do you um?
Are you?
What's your schedule?
Are you?
Do you work at a differentplace?
You're at home?
What do you work out of?
How, like?
How often are you togetherduring a day or?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, so I'm an emergency vet, so I work three
to four days a week and Ioftentimes work like weekend
days.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
So a lot of times like 12, 13,.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Sometimes it turns into 16 hour shifts and so you
know, oftentimes we will onlysee each other for like an hour
or so, like if I, you know, comehome super late or something
like that.
And then you know he works anormal kind of like nine to five
job but has work from home likethree days a week.
So there's some weekdays that,like I have off, like, let's say
, monday, so we do get to likespend some time at, like it's

(17:47):
nice that he does.
I guess that was.
Another benefit of COVID isthat now his work has turned
into a hybrid schedule where heonly has to go into the office
so often so we can spend sometime at home, like when I'm off
during the week you know he'sreally good at being like, okay,
I have a meeting at this time,this time, and this time like
let's go, you know like run andget lunch or you know, do

(18:09):
something you know, so that wecan spend some time together.
You know, even on those weekswhere we have like opposite days
off, and you guys, how longhave you lived together, so she
lives with her parents.
Technically no yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
But I live with a roommate in like the northern
parts of the Heights, so she'llcome over three or four times a
week or so.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, almost live together.
Yeah, I usually am over at hisplace like all my days off.
Yeah, I'm usually almost livetogether.
Yeah, I usually am over at hisplace like all my days off.
But it's a closer commute forme to work from my parents'
house too, so usually a lot oftimes when I work like I will
stay at my parents' house.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
I mean, it's like a third of the time.
It takes you a while to go frommy place to the clinic
Sacrifices we make, yeah, but Iwould say that remote work, kind
of like going back to us likefirst beginning our relationship
, like I was able to workremotely in college station so I
was able to stay with you acouple days a week and just like
hang out like whenever, like ifmy day wrapped up at like right

(19:08):
at five o'clock be, able tolike go to the pool, hang out
and so, while, like, the worldaround us seemed to be like
completely crumbling so manyquestions, so much concern like
we were able to have like areally amazing time together.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
It was such a um, like polar opposite time because
, like my mom's a nurse, so shewas seeing things firsthand, um,
you know, at her hospital andthings and and obviously like it
was a really scary time.
But then, kind of in thislittle bubble that we created,
you know, we, you know made someof the best friendships we've

(19:46):
ever had, like created reallygood community, like a really
good basis for our relationship.
So, you know, it's definitelyI'm sure you know most people
can relate to that kind ofdisparity of feelings, you know,
towards that time in history.
That's like pretty unique, likeI'm hoping we never go through
something like that to thatlevel again.

(20:06):
But yeah, so it was definitelylike an interesting time and
we're still like feeling thoseeffects with, like his working
from home and those sort sort ofthings.
Like it's definitely somethingthat I think will stick with,
like all of us, for a reallylong time.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
You like working at home.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
I do.
I like the flexibility that itprovides where, instead of
taking an hour for lunch, I canpull clothes.
I can do various things.
But that in-person aspect of itI think it's really important
for building trust with yourcoworkers with remote work is

(20:47):
well, you know, you have peoplethat have like automated mouse
shakers or like okay, like likeyou're getting your work done,
but are you really working a40-hour work week?
Um, I think being in office,it's true it's a huge thing.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
What is it an?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
automated mouse shaker where, like, you're
shaking your mouse, so so theythink you're like on there like
working yeah so so people willbuy machines to put their mouse
on top of so it'll like moveit'll move their mouse, like
it'll move their cursor, so liketheir team's notifications or
like on on outlook.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
They're online but they're not doing anything.
Um, so actually a couple highend tech companies have actually
started tracking mouse cursorsto see when the mouse stops or
like to pick up like patterns ofthe mouse moving, and then
they're then firing those peopleon assumption that they are
using one of these like mousemovers.
It's great, but again liketrust totally being removed and

(21:40):
are these people actuallyworking?
If they're using a mouse shakerand if they're not working,
like, then that warrants aconversation of like, okay, like
, are you really working yourjob or not?

Speaker 2 (21:50):
But if you get the results done, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
We're more in our company.
We're more results orientedthan we are Like what are you
doing every moment of the day?
Because I don't own you, youjust work for us and so.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
And I'm like I need to do a job, yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
We want to know that you're doing a job you know like
, and again, I'm a big proponentof that and I think this showed
us that I always say that thatold model and I grew up having
to do that and I hate that and Iwill never, ever have an office
where I have to go sit in itagain because I just don't want
to do that and so, again, Ialways prefer it's not the 1960s
and we don't work in a bank oran insurance company or put me,

(22:27):
for God's sake, in a cubicle,might as well, just put me in
prison.
I'm not ever doing that again.
So you know that to me is justmiserable life.
I think there's more to lifeand I think a lot of this comes
from the fact that we live inEurope half the year, because
Europeans don't work like that.
They live life.
It's not all about work.
They enjoy life and work paysthe bills.

(22:49):
Here we pretend.
You know, americans tend tothink that work is the number
one thing we do.
And also we'll let you slide ina little bit If you ask us on
paper and ask us for permission.
You could have this much timefor your family, but not more
than that, and so I don't likethat.
I think the COVID thing showedus that it's a new world and the

(23:11):
new generations understand that, and there's so much more life
than just constantly working.
So to me I'm like okay, didthis get done?
Did that get done?
Where are we at with that?
I know the tasks.
Is it done?
Okay, we're good.
And then we move on and nextthing, enjoy your thing.
My daughter, who worked becausewe paid for her college, she

(23:33):
works for me.
That's her payback and sheloves it.
She works out of her house, shedoes her own thing, she knows
what she has to do.
She gets it done.
In the middle of the dayyesterday she texted me hey, I'm
going to get my eyebrows done.
All right, knock yourself out.
It wasn't like okay, when Ihave my lunch break, I'm going
to go take my lunch hour for my45 minutes and I'll do this.
That's nonsense.

(23:53):
Again, it's not the 1960s,forget that bullshit.
We just and Tiffany's like, hey, she literally said in the text
this is done, this is done,this is done.
I emailed this.
You're waiting on this, waitingto hear back from this.
I'm going to get my eyebrowsdone.
I'll talk to you in an hour.
Okay, cool, there's anemergency.
I'll hit you up.
Otherwise, enjoy your life,right, you know, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, that's the way it should be, so you enjoy that.
You like working remotely, Ilike working as a whole.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I would say that whenever I go into the office, I
like to make a point to havein-person meetings.
To have in-person meetings andI think that that's something
that a lot of companies aremissing.
The opportunity on is if you'rein person, make that time
valuable.
Don't just go into the officejust to sit down there and then-
.
Do what you could do at homeRight and have like virtual

(24:42):
meetings, when someone's likesitting across the room from you
.
Like that doesn't make senseand there's a like like in like
all industries right now wherepeople do have a hybrid work
schedule, there's a lot of vocalpushback about like how can we
make this more personable?
You know, being able to workremotely has also led me to kind
of pursue my own hobbies and myown interests, which has been

(25:02):
helpful, and I also commute timeand, instead of driving for two
extra hours a day, like you canuse that time you know.
Exactly right.
And I get every other Fridayoff because I work 980s.
So if she's working then I'llgo bring you lunch or go stop by
and say hi, aw, yeah, if she'soff, he's really good about that
.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
He does bring me lunch and, just like, stops by
the hospital which is like adrive, for I mean the hospital I
work at is like 30 minutes atleast 30 to 40 minutes from his
house, so he'll take time to go.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, what people don't realize.
Like in Texas, everything is sofar away.
That is just between thetraffic and everything.
Everything is so far awaybecause the land is so big.
Texas is a very big state.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
So I always say this People ask me how big is Houston
?
They have no idea, but it's.
I think it's either Houston orLA is the biggest geographical
city in America that I know that.
You could literally start onone side of the city, get on the
freeway at normal freewayspeeds, 55, 60 miles an hour,
you can drive an hour and you'restill in the city.

(26:09):
It's just crazy how big thecity is.
It just keeps growing andgrowing and growing and more
people are actually moving herefrom california everywhere else
because state you know, texashas no state taxes people.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Don't tell them people are gonna want to move
here they're already coming.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Believe me, they're texas, california, new york.
They coming Bringing theirmoney with them and they're
coming.
But speaking of so you said youhave time to do your side
hustle.
This is great.
So one of the things we startedtalking in our conversation was
this is one of the things,because he knew that we started
talking about us being in thebeauty business, and this is one

(26:45):
of his things he developed andthis again this generation.
I love it because everybody'sgot a side hustle, one of his
things he developed and thisagain this generation.
I love it because everybody'sgot a side hustle.
They're always doing stuff andthis is pretty cool.
It's very ingenious.
This is skincare basically forunisex right, you can use it for
both, but it's clean.
It's organic, clean.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
All natural ingredients.
Yeah, look at all these prettythings.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
These are amazing.
What got me is I like thepackaging.
Thank you what.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
What got me is that you've put a lot of research
into this and the fact that istell us a little bit, uh, but
it's about with mushrooms orsomething.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
So um, it started with my sister having eczema.
She had terrible experiencewith eczema and like she would
like like hide her hands becauseshe had eggs on her hands and
I'm like what can I do to fixthis?
With my geophysics background,I did research in undergrad.
That made me very comfortablewith learning things that I had
no background knowledge on.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Or, like you know, comfortable reading research
papers and obviously, like I doas well.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
And so I'm able to bounce stuff off of her.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
So you just started doing a bunch of research Like
how can I help my sister, andthen you know how can I have
cleaner like skincare, andthat's kind of how this whole
thing blossomed, so the productin your hand marked in a black
jar.
So that's our face balm.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
That was our first product.
That really so I gave it to mysister right and her eczema
cleared up in three days aftershe started using it.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Like all, we do that, like I, I do the same thing.
I I create something.
I would like try it in thefamily, just in case something
goes south yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Like that's where product development starts
friends and family friends andfamily.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Something goes south, you know they're not gonna like
, do you?

Speaker 4 (28:25):
at least you hope my sister has high standards of
stuff too, so if she didn't likeit, it's dead in the water.
So I started with that and shewas like this is great.
And I thought well, peoplestruggle with eczema, let's see.
So we have a morning serum andan evening serum, and the blends
of mushrooms and herbs areperfectly formulated for your

(28:46):
skin's need.
Morning serum it has vitamin C,cordyceps tremella mushroom,
which is a natural source ofhyaluronic acid.
It firms, it brightens.
We also have a uniqueformulation in there where it
acts as a UVB protectant.
Love our morning serum Radianceis a super lightweight
moisturizer for people that haveclogged pores.

(29:06):
Evening serum helps to reduceyour sebum secretion, so your
skin's natural oil, um, andevens out your skin tone.
A lot of people, um, especiallyin this digital age, like we
talk a lot about skin tone andhow we can look better on camera
, so a lot of people like well,that's why the filters right,
like you can't never.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
You.
I sort of got some people withthe filters, some people you
just can't recognize them inperson, like who is this person
right?
And then you just realize youhave a friend right, like he's
some people on his facebook thathe's always showing it to me
and and when I meet them inperson I'm like what, it's not
the same person he's like oh,you know her from facebook, or

(29:46):
you know him from facebook.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
You're like so, so the for me, it's so important to
be able to have skincare that'sclean.
We're we all seem to be a lotmore aware of what we're
ingesting, what we're putting onour face, um, so we're using
natural herbs, um and mushroomsto be able to deliver
exceptional skincare for allskin types.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
It doesn't matter.
So it's kind of his goals likesimplify you know the process
for people that are like I can'tdo skincare, it doesn't matter.
So it's kind of his goal is tolike simplify you know the
process for people that are likeI can't do skincare, it's like
too complicated.
So that's kind of part of thegoal, as well as just having an
option for people that like wantto, to focus on like clean
skincare and just startsomething which is a big
priority right now yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Clean, clean steps, so that's great.
So you have a website,obviously Sevo.
Sevo is the name of the actualcompany, right?
S-e-v-o.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
S-E-V-O.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
And SevoSkincarecom.
Sevoskincare is the website.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Sevo, sevoskincare.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
SevoSkincare, and you can check out all these we're
probably going to have you backand you and I are going to do a
whole episode about skincare andingredients.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Yes, we're going to have a skincare showdown.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Ah, that's it.
He'll geek out over that.
We'll do that, that's great.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Well, I think what you're doing on the side hustle
is fantastic.
Again, your generation, whichI'm older than that that's what
the whole show is about.
We never had all the sidehustles that you guys did no,
you guys just had a paycheck andwe're able to afford the house
and we can't anymore.
But you guys are doing someincredibly adventurous and

(31:18):
fantastic things that are justdifferent.
You're not afraid to just bestuck in a box of what you're
doing.
I think it's fantastic.
Yeah, we'll continue to grow.
I'm so glad we met and got tomeet, because we have so many
fascinating things and see whatother couples are doing and
that's what this show issupposed to be about is couples
and relationships and how yourcareer, what you're doing and

(31:40):
this is great.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
So Nick and Dr Morgan , Thank you.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
She worked hard for that.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I know.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Dr Morgan, they like to be called doctor, but
congratulations on everything.
We'll stay in touch, we'll keepgoing on and we'll keep
updating what's happening here,and we'll have you back for sure
.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Thank, you so much I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Thank you so much.
Everybody so like, subscribeand share.
If you guys have any questions,suggestions or comments, don't
hate, because I'll come afteryou, but if you have any, any
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