January 14, 2025 • 28 mins
Have you ever wondered how couples who live and work together manage to maintain a healthy relationship? Join us as we share our personal experiences of navigating life without the conventional boundaries most couples experience. While many might find constant closeness daunting, we have found it to be a source of strength, especially during tough times like the COVID pandemic. We even discuss those rare moments of solo indulgence when travel separates us briefly, only to realize how much we miss the presence of the other.
Through amusing anecdotes, we highlight the importance of trust and understanding, especially when it comes to location tracking and maintaining healthy habits. Despite the hurdles, our shared journey reinforces the depth of our connection, proving that a little laughter and love can go a long way in overcoming obstacles.
We also critique the traditional corporate environment and champion a results-driven, flexible work structure that acknowledges employees as individuals. By sharing our experiences of balancing work and life from home, we aim to inspire a shift towards a more supportive workplace culture. From dream-induced frustrations to embracing each other's strengths in our daily tasks, we shed light on how a harmonious work-life balance can actually foster creativity and productivity. Join us in this candid exploration and maybe gain a few insights to apply in your own life.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
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Speaker 1 (00:35):
So this episode is called how Can I Miss you If you
Never Go Away?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, the reason we came up with that is that people
always say that you guys arealways together.
We see you social media.
You're always on the picturestogether.
We work together since we ownour own business and we don't
have offices that we waste moneyon.
We just work wherever we are.
We have places around the world.
We live in US, also in Madrid,Spain.
We go back and forth and sowherever we are, we're working
(01:06):
and we're always together 24-7.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Except I mean sometimes when you go to the gym
by yourself.
But we work out together, weeat together, we usually do
everything together and for somepeople that can be a little bit
daunting.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, because most couples, like you know, even if
they're married, whatever for along time, you know, one of them
has a job or both of them havejobs and they go off and they do
their thing, interact withother people all day long, and
then they come back and seetheir spouse or their
significant other and that's thetime gap that they have there
and then they miss the person.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
and but if you're with your person all the time,
yeah, that's why, when COVIDhappened, we didn't have any
issues.
A lot of people got divorcedbecause they couldn't stand
being 24-7 with the other person, but for us it was just like
any other normal part of ourlife, right?
Together like stuck together.
(02:01):
We have this thing like we arealways together and it might be
a little bit codependency wehave on each other, but I'm fine
with that.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, and I have friends that actually tell me
they say all the time they'relike you know, don't you like
get like your space, like yourprivate time, your space.
And I said, well, you know,there are some times where she
has to travel separately from meor whatever for meetings or
whatever, and she may be gone,or she has to run back to Madrid
or something.
If we're in the US and I'mactually, I start looking
(02:33):
forward to that.
I'm going oh, this is going tobe great, this is going to be so
good.
She's not going to tell me whatto do, she's not going to tell
me what to eat.
She says it's going to be good,she's good, she.
And then go, I drop her off atthe airport, airport, and and
you know, sometimes I don't even, I didn't even stop, I don't
even slow down, I just kind ofopened the door.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, like go bitch.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Off you go and she's like what, are you in a hurry to
get rid of me?
No, no, it's, I'm caught up onall my work stuff.
I'm just going to go in thehouse.
I got the puppies andeverything, but I'm going to
take care of them.
But then I'm going to sit onthe couch.
(03:11):
I've got my bottle of Bacardi.
I'm going to make myself a bigdrink of Bacardi and Coke Zero
and I'm going to get Taco Bell,since I don't ever eat fast food
hardly, I Don't ever eat fastfood hardly I'm going to get
Taco Bell.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But there's a reason for that.
You get sick every single time.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't care, it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
He swears, he swears he can eat Taco Bell.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You get sick every single time, but I'm going to
get me some Taco Bell and I'mgoing to put it there and I'm
going to eat it.
And I'm going to turn on myCall of Duty games or one of my
games I love to play EliteSniper.
I'm going to play something andno one's going to be bothering
me and I'm going to eat my TacoBell.
I'm going to drink my drink andI'm just going to be there by
myself and it's going to beawesome.
And I forget sometimes that wehave a Furbo camera so she can
(03:54):
know where she's at.
She can just log in and look atme and all of a sudden I'll be
playing and I'll.
What are you eating?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I know and you think all that is great, right, I
don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I think this is going to be fantastic and I love it
and it is great for about threehours.
And then I realize, okay, now Igot to go to bed and she's not
in bed.
And the puppies are likewhere's mommy?
And you know well, she's nothere.
And then we have to get in bed.
And then I realized, okay,she's not in bed.
(04:27):
Or then I wake up in themorning and she's not there, or
I wake up in the middle of thenight and go to touch her and
she's not there.
So that's when it gets reallylike oh, I get sad about it.
Okay, that that little fantasyI had about the Taco Bell and
the video games was great for afew hours.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But then I get back to reality and it's like, okay,
we are codependent on each otherand I mean not that I don't let
you have your Taco Bell, youcan eat whatever you want, but I
always tell you, make goodchoices, right, eat better, eat
healthier, because again youalways have, since your hiatal
hernia surgery, you can't handlea lot of foods.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And I always tell him that's going to make you sick.
Oh, leave me alone.
You just want to control what Ieat.
No, you're going to get sick.
Yeah, he gets sick.
He's throwing up, he hasdiarrhea.
It's just a bunch of problemsthat you get.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It's all part of the Taco Bell experience.
Just letting you know that.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, maybe I they don't call it running from the
border for nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So that's the experience that you're getting
there.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So you're saying I'm a Taco Bell away to be on my
perfect weight.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So yeah, I don't tell you not to eat that because I
want to control you.
I tell you that because I careabout you and about the Bacardi.
I mean you can drink a lot ofit and sometimes it's not like
water.
He doesn't get hangovers.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I don't get super drunk either.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I know His body can process it.
But again, it's not good foryou, babe, and I worry about you
.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I know that and even, like I said before, you
secretly hope that my blood workcomes back and I'll please let
this be the time that his liverenzymes are high, so he'll
listen to me and get off theBacardi.
But then it comes back and shesays how is this asshole just
having perfect liver?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I know, I have like two glasses of wine and then I
get super horrible hangovers andthen my liver enzymes are
through the roof and I have highcholesterol and how are you
fine?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't know.
You think I pay off the labpeople to make sure the numbers
stay correct.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Maybe you do.
Now that you're saying that,maybe you do, maybe I get some
results and you get some otherresults.
Right, but again now that you'resaying that maybe you do, maybe
I get some results and you getsome other reasons, right, uh,
but again, I don't try tocontrol you, I'm just trying to
make you live longer.
Yes, because I love you and Iagain, maybe we are codependent
on each other and it there was apoint where every time we were
(07:03):
not together, we were fighting,like I didn't like that feeling
of you not being with me.
I think it has gotten betterover the time, but I again,
because you were eating thewrong foods, you were drinking
your all your Bacardi and thenyou were not working out and I
(07:25):
was just like why can't you justbehave when I'm not there?
But it has gotten better.
I don't watch the photo cameraa lot anymore when I'm gone.
Actually, I can track his phone.
That's not too stalkerish I cantrack his phone, know where he's
(07:48):
at, and I don't do that anymore.
I used to, but I don't do thatanymore.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, I can remember you would send me a text why are
you at so-and-so?
Why are you at so-and-so?
I'm like how do you know I'm atso-and-so, I know, but I don't
do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I am better than that now.
I trust you're going to do goodchoices and if you don't, your
body will tell you.
And now you're like, oh, I callyou.
If I'm in Spain, I call you.
Like, oh, I'm like, what'swrong?
Nothing.
I'm like you have a tummy ache.
No, I'm fine.
(08:23):
You just had Taco Bell, Maybe.
Or you just ate the biggest.
You loved your Tex-Mex food,but your body can't process it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, not anymore.
Not anymore.
I just can't.
I used to.
I grew up in Houston and Texasin general, so I was a huge
Tex-Mex fan for so long.
But I can't, my body just can'tprocess anymore.
So I do have to have my fix.
So we'll go to a restaurant orsomething, but I literally get
the smallest kind of samplerplate I can get.
So I taste this, taste that,taste that, but there's
(08:57):
otherwise I and I still feel alittle nauseated when I finished
.
But it definitely my body can't.
There's so much like bad fatsand carbohydrates in that that
it just it makes me nauseated.
I can't eat it.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Exactly so.
That's why I know.
I know exactly when when you're, when you're eating, when
you're not supposed to be eating, and your body tells you that.
Yeah, but you also have alittle.
Every time I go away, he getssick.
Yeah, every time I go away, hejust falls sick, and I don't
(09:29):
know why, besides the stomachproblems, there was this time
that I don't remember where Iwent and you were in LA.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, I think you were back in Spain.
You went back to Spain.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
No in LA, no because we moved from LA to Spain.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I don't know where you were.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I don't know where I was.
Oh, I think I went to MexicoCity with my mom.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh and Tiffany.
Yeah, I took Tiffany and my momto Mexico City and I remember
you were like telling me howsick you were.
I was telling them this morninghe was fine and Tiffany said
maybe he's having like andywithdrawal and maybe it was a
thing, because I even rememberyou recorded this video in case
(10:16):
you didn't make it through thenight yeah, I mean I may have
been a little dramatic and youonly had a fever like you're
like um, I have the chills, Ican't stop shaking, and I saw
the video later and you're likebaby, this is it.
I love you.
Take care of the puppies.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It was a little.
I had a little drama episode.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I know it was only because I was away and I love
you for that.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, when you're away.
But you know you also do somestuff.
That's like I think I rememberyou got mad that you were at
some I think you were, I thinkyou were with Tiffany somewhere
and on our corporate like ourcredit cards and stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
When we used, like one of our cards, american
Express, it pops up on the otherperson's our phone like
so-and-so spent this much moneyat a restaurant and I had gone
to this Italian.
We were living in Manhattan andthere was this Italian
restaurant that we liked and Iwould go sit sometime at the bar
and get the thing.
But I didn't think it throughand the guy's like, oh, what are
(11:23):
you going to get tonight?
I said, oh, I don't know, maybeI get this, and it was like a
steak or something.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So I went to see Tiffany down in Corpus Christi
and I remember we were havingdinner.
It's Tiffany, her boyfriend,husband aka Justin, and Justin's
friend that this is the firsttime I meet this guy.
His name was Drew, he is Drewand we're here having dinner at
(11:52):
the table and suddenly and Ikeep telling him what are you
going to do tonight?
Please make good choices, don'tgo out.
Don't go out and spend a lot ofmoney.
Don't go out and drink too much.
You're by yourself, take careof the puppies.
And he's like yeah, yeah, no,I'm fine, I puppies.
(12:13):
And he's like yeah, yeah, no,I'm fine, I'm fine.
And suddenly we are havingdinner.
I put my phone down and I see acharge on American Express for
like $400.
In my head I thought, oh my God, he is with somebody.
Who are you with?
Who are you with?
Who are you buying dinner for?
It's impossible that this manis going to spend $400 on
himself.
That's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I bet you used the term who's that bitch?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I know who's that bitch you're with.
Who are you buying dinner for?
Are you drunk?
And you decided to buy dinnerfor somebody.
And I literally remember wewere at dinner and I was like
this motherfucker.
I was like Tiffany's like what?
I'm like I'm going to kill yourdad.
(12:57):
And this guy drew again.
He doesn't know the dynamic, hedoesn't know who I am, why am I
there?
And he doesn't know what'shappening.
I'm threatening to killTiffany's dad and she's like
what did he do?
I'm like I don't know.
He's probably with somebodybuying them dinner.
And she's like, oh, call him.
I'm like, no, I'm gonna let himcall me and I'm gonna be making
sure he knows I am mad.
And he calls me.
(13:18):
And now tell us a story.
Why?
Why were you spending fourhundred dollars on a dinner by
yourself?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
because I went to the bar and I sit at the bar and
they know it's there and the guyusually was like, make
suggestions and things.
And he was like, oh, you shouldtry this so-and-so, the Wagyu.
It was like a Wagyu steak orsomething like that and dummy me
didn't say, oh, how much isthat?
I just thought, okay, thatsounds good, give me that.
(13:45):
And it was this giant likeWagyu steak or something.
And it was this giant likeWagyu steak or something.
And it was unbelievablyexpensive.
And I was like when I got thebill I was like, oh my God, and
I was like what am I going tosay?
Okay, I just felt I was moreembarrassed than anything else,
like how did I do that to myself, that I bought that expensive,
because you know me, I don'teven eat that much stuff.
I was like usually we go toreally we only really eat high
(14:07):
end steakhouses and kind ofthings, but I'm still, when we
go, I get like a six ounce filet, maybe the eight ounce we're
sharing, or something like that.
That's what I was thinking.
I get the six ounce filet.
It's $40, $50.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Because I know how much you eat.
And then some side dishes.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I don't eat that much food, so it's like I usually,
just I generally don't eat.
You know, that expensive of ameal, exactly.
That's what I thought you werewith somebody.
I was more embarrassed that Idid that to myself.
I'm like how did I let myselfdo that?
That was stupid.
Oh my God.
(14:39):
I hope she doesn't find outabout this.
I'll never hear the end of this.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And I didn like hey, I'm like, what are you doing?
I don't know, what are youdoing?
You're like I just had dinner?
Yeah, of course you did.
Why are you spending so muchmoney?
Who were you with?
You're like, what are youtalking about?
And then you were reallyembarrassed about that and you
story yeah, or so.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
He says yeah, that was absolutely it.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So he says, yeah, so here I am in New York walking
back in the rain no umbrella.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Walking back in the streets in the rain.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Miserable and a pale.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Regretting my life choices.
It was appropriate that I'mwalking in the dark, in the rain
and miserable with my lifechoices that I just made and a
bag of $200 steak in my hand.
Puppies, you're going to eatgood tonight, oh.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I know and anyway, I mean that happened, that's funny
.
Well, now it's funny, but I wasreally really mad at you that
time, yes, or the time that thisguy I swear, every time I leave
this guy's like, oh, I'm goingto go have dinner with a friend,
(15:52):
like you're, I don't know, youwouldn't have dinner with
somebody.
And again like I'm somewhere,and then I see $600 dinner.
I'm like what?
Oh, we went to Nobu.
I'm like, and why do I have toleave town?
And then you just go to thesefancy places.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And just spend all this money.
I take you to Nobu all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
We would go to Nobu all the time.
In New York we don't spend thatmuch money.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
In New York.
We did In New York every timewe went to.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Nobu, it was expensive.
No, it wasn't that much.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, it's $500, $600 for dinner every time in Nobu.
You, I'm in Nobu, you didn'tsee the check so you have no
idea what it costs.
But in Nobu, in New York, it's$500, $600 for dinner.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I know, but, man, I don't know why every time I
leave you have to just be anaughty boy.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I like my food.
I like good food, yes, but youhave to pace yourself bro, I
know, well, I did, but you knowyou have to calm down.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I tell you all the time, eat at home.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And then suddenly, and I do now I eat a lot at home
now Every time I go now I makea lot of dinner at home.
I can't stay If you're gone fora week.
I'm not going to stay everysingle night at home, I just get
bored.
So I got to go do something.
But most of the time now I justsnack at the bar or have some
drinks there and then watch alittle sports or something and
(17:11):
then go home and I don't go toofar from the house now.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I stay pretty close to where we live and when I'm
doing that, but it's fine, youknow.
I think I'm interested to knowwhat couples out there and again
, please like, subscribe,comment I'm really interested to
know if you are a couple andyou have this issue where you
work together too and you seeeach other all the time, what is
that dynamic like for you?
(17:36):
How do you break apart that andget some time apart so that you
can miss the other person?
Again?
I've said before in otherepisodes we don't really do a
thing where you say I'm goingout with the girls tonight or
I'm going out with my buddiestonight.
We don't.
That's not a thing we do,you're my buddy.
Yeah, we just go out togetherand go watch.
(17:56):
You know a lot of time that wego to the daytime.
We go to sports bars, watchgames or we have we found some
recently a great sports bar thatlets puppies come to here.
So we take the puppies with usand we do that kind of thing.
That's really we kind of it's afamily thing and that's our
family thing.
That we do is take the puppiesand go to sports but we really
like.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
don't get tired of each other.
I never get tired of.
Well, sometimes I wake up inthe middle of the night and I
see you and I'm like I couldreally kill you right now.
But then I remember I love youso.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, that's because I did something in your dream
wrong.
Yeah, that's because I didsomething in your dream wrong.
I did something in your dreamwrong.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yes, sometimes you're just cheating on me in my dream
, or you're probably, I don'tknow.
Sometimes you do stupid thingsin my dreams and I don't like
that.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I'll work on that.
I'll see what I can do to dosmarter things in your dreams.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I'll do my best.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yes, please Be better in my dreams, but I really
don't feel tired of you.
I never think well, except whenyou're over my shoulder telling
me what to do and that I haveto finish a deadline of
something and I tell you to goaway.
But you go away to the couch,so that's fine.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
And then I ask you, show me what you're doing over
there.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I know I'm like what he's like.
You're not doing what you'resupposed to be doing.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Right Again, because again I'm not being overbearing,
but again you have ADD and Ihave to keep you relatively on
task or we don't get thingsaccomplished.
And again it's not one of thosethings where, if I could do it
myself, I would not bother youto do it.
In other words, it wouldn't belike, hey, this needs to be done
(19:33):
and I full well know how to doit.
I just think you should do thistoo.
I don't do that.
Like part of our jobs is you doall the creative stuff and the
design of everything and themarketing and all that kind of
stuff and I do all the boringstuff.
So I'm the one sitting in therefilling out 20 different uh
(19:54):
packets of you know paperwork.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That's 25 pages long, you're still asking me
questions.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
There's things I have to know that I don't know in
there.
That's why I have to get theinformation for him.
But I'm the one that has to doall this tedious, boring work
that I have to do, and I wouldnever expect you to have to do
that as well.
If it's stuff that's my job andthat's part of what I bring to
the table, I need to do that andso I do that, but I also have
(20:24):
to kind of check and make sureokay, while I'm doing this, are
you doing what?
you get caught up on doingsomething else.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I know I do.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So I have to keep making sure that you're at least
staying somewhat on track sothat we can flow the way we're
supposed to flow.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Fine, I'll allow it.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And also it's sometimes even when you get
bored about like being at home,because we're at home all the
time you go behind me and I cantell you're bored and you're
like what are you doing?
I'm like working.
Oh, okay, like what do you want?
What I don't know?
(21:05):
I'm bored.
Like okay, you want to gosomewhere?
Yeah, let's go somewhere and wego out to have lunch.
But you're so cute when you dothat, like you're just start
like lurking around.
Yeah, you're lurking, I'm lunchlurking.
Yeah, you're lunch lurking,You're like yeah, let's go eat
some lunch.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That works to our advantage because we can go.
We can just shift dynamic andwe can go sit and lunch, have a
glass of wine, have some lightlunch and still continue the
conversation about work we canstill talk about.
Oh yeah, we have to do this.
We have to do this.
This needs to be done.
We can plan it for doing apodcast.
We can plan it.
What are we doing again?
What are we supposed to behitting on?
What are we supposed to be in?
(21:50):
My normal, most of my careerthing that I absolutely hated
and a lot of people do that.
That's a normal American lifewhere you go and you work from
830 to 530 or whatever andyou're in your office or you're
in your cubicle and that's whereyou go every day.
And to me that was likeabsolute hell.
I just couldn't imagine and Ihated it.
That's why I would never stayin my office If you would go
(22:12):
through like looking for Well,he also had no windows.
He was like no Well, in thatoffice that you met me in I did
not have windows.
It was miserable, but that'swhy you would find me a lot of
times.
I wouldn't even be in my office, I'd just be walking around
because I had to be talking topeople and getting out of my
office.
I hated sitting in an office ina box, sit in your little box
(22:34):
from this time to this time, andthat to me was just absolute
hell.
I did not want to live my lifelike that and it was miserable
to do that.
So I just made a commitment tomyself that once we did our own
thing.
That's why we won't haveoffices like ever.
We're not gonna have officesever, because it's like.
I'm not gonna do that.
Nor do I wanna put other peoplethrough that.
I'm not gonna make you come sitin an office all day.
(22:54):
You can work anywhere.
You have access to Wi-Fi, yourcomputer, your phones.
As long as I can reach you, Idon't need you sitting in an
office where, again, I don'twork in a bank in the 1960s
Times have changed.
The dynamic of the workplace haschanged.
You don't need to work that way.
(23:15):
The money you would waste onoffices and stuff.
You could plow that money intomarketing social media, hiring
another person Everybody.
Work out of your house, enjoyyour life.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, but corporates don't like that.
Corporate people like it.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Because they want to control you.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
And again, to me, it's not about the control, it's
about the results.
Do you get the job done?
Do you get the results done?
I don't care what you're doingat every moment of the day, I
don't care if you're sittingthere going.
Oh wow, I'm waiting onsomething like that.
I'm watching a Netflix thing inthe background about you know
serial killers or whatever,which Tiffany does nonstop and
(23:48):
she works for us.
She's constantly listening tothe Netflix serial killer things
and she still gets her workdone.
I don't have to go, oh, howcome you didn't get this done?
Oh, because I was sitting onthe couch watching TV.
No, she can work, she canmultitask and listen to that at
the same time and still get herjob done.
She's not having to go to anoffice every day and do that and
(24:08):
I think that's just.
I think that's a mentalitythat's, that's way old thinking,
it's not futuristic andtechnology allows you to do
other things.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
It can get a little bit overbearing when you work at
home or from home because youdon't know when to put a stop in
it.
I remember like sometimes it'slate and you have to tell me
stop working.
Or if we're in Spain and withthe time difference, I have to
work late.
(24:36):
It's like 10 pm and I'm working.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, because there's a seven hour time difference.
And what do we say when ourbiggest cut like Sally Sally
says hey, I want to have aconference call at their time.
At the end of the day, we're onthe phone at one o'clock in the
morning for us having aconference call.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And also we deal internationally.
So you could be on the phonewith Asia, yeah, and all night
long I'll hear beep, beep.
What is that?
It's somebody in Asia, it'ssomebody in Singapore, it's
somebody people.
We're all over the world.
So you're working acrossmultiple time zones that people
also have to consider takingconsideration when you're
planning your day.
But I have to sometimes tellyou OK enough, you don't have it
(25:14):
, it's not a deadline, just stop, unwind, relax.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
You can pick it up in the morning, yes, but a lot of
people it can get overbearing, Iknow.
Remember when we lived in NewYork we had this neighbor that
from our bedroom we can see herliving room.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
That from our bedroom .
Speaker 1 (25:27):
we can see her living room.
This poor girl, oh my God.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
It was like nine.
She's like a graphic designeror website designer or something
?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
We only know that because she had multiple screens
.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
We only know that because I'm being Mr Nosy and
I'm looking at what is sheworking on over there.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I know Nosy Nancy.
She's like what's she doing?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's my neighbor working on over there.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, and she had like two different screens, big
giant screens, big giant screenswhich usually is like if you do
design or something Right, andshe was there from 8 in the
morning, I remember we'll wakeup, she's already working.
And she was.
It was 10 pm and she was stillworking.
Yeah, I'm like this poor woman.
I will be like trying to knockon the window like hey, hey,
(26:05):
stop.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Come over for a glass of wine, calm down.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Like she was on her sweatpants all day, just working
and working, and I understandthat sometimes, working from
home, you don't know when to puta stop.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, well, usually, because again, it's about the
task or what your responsibilityis and not about the hours, and
that's the thing.
And I would get into my formerjob.
I used to get into argumentswith the, the bookkeeper,
controller type person, who wasan older school lady, like old
school lady, and you know she'donly worked in the old school
offices type environment, andshe would always come by and ask
(26:40):
well, we're so and so you know,because it's it's five o'clock
and they've already left and ouroffices are open till five
thirty and they've already leftand our offices are open until
5.30.
And I'd be like, well, they didall their work and their son
has a baseball game today thathe's playing.
So him and his wife are goingto watch their son's baseball
game that they're playing andall his stuff is already done.
(27:00):
Yeah, but our corporate policysays look, and I stop it right
there.
So I don't work in a bank inthe 1960s, I don't work that way
.
My people work for me, they getthe job done and then they go
live their life, because it allisn't all about the company.
Let people live their lives and, you know, have a good life
with your family.
That makes a person, a betterperson, a better employee and
(27:23):
more loyal person to you becauseof the way they get treated.
And I said you know how manytimes I call this guy on the
weekends, when he's not supposedto be working, and say I have
an emergency, can you handlethis for me?
He never says, well, no, it'sthe weekend.
I don't work on the weekendsbecause our corporate policy.
He doesn't talk that bullshit,he just gets it done.
He never, ever questions me andI don't pull the hallway and
say, hey, everything is done andI'll be back early in the
(27:50):
morning to get things done.
If you need anything, call me.
I'll have my cell phone on, butmy son's playing his first
baseball game.
That, to me, is more importantthan appeasing the controller
bookkeeper lady down the hallwaythat we're not following this
corporate policy, which isantiquated bullshit.
So I don't live life that way.
I wasn't going to let themdictate to me how to work.
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Speaker 1 (00:35):
So this episode is called how Can I Miss you If you
Never Go Away?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, the reason we came up with that is that people
always say that you guys arealways together.
We see you social media.
You're always on the picturestogether.
We work together since we ownour own business and we don't
have offices that we waste moneyon.
We just work wherever we are.
We have places around the world.
We live in US, also in Madrid,Spain.
We go back and forth and sowherever we are, we're working
(01:06):
and we're always together 24-7.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Except I mean sometimes when you go to the gym
by yourself.
But we work out together, weeat together, we usually do
everything together and for somepeople that can be a little bit
daunting.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, because most couples, like you know, even if
they're married, whatever for along time, you know, one of them
has a job or both of them havejobs and they go off and they do
their thing, interact withother people all day long, and
then they come back and seetheir spouse or their
significant other and that's thetime gap that they have there
and then they miss the person.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
and but if you're with your person all the time,
yeah, that's why, when COVIDhappened, we didn't have any
issues.
A lot of people got divorcedbecause they couldn't stand
being 24-7 with the other person, but for us it was just like
any other normal part of ourlife, right?
Together like stuck together.
(02:01):
We have this thing like we arealways together and it might be
a little bit codependency wehave on each other, but I'm fine
with that.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, and I have friends that actually tell me
they say all the time they'relike you know, don't you like
get like your space, like yourprivate time, your space.
And I said, well, you know,there are some times where she
has to travel separately from meor whatever for meetings or
whatever, and she may be gone,or she has to run back to Madrid
or something.
If we're in the US and I'mactually, I start looking
(02:33):
forward to that.
I'm going oh, this is going tobe great, this is going to be so
good.
She's not going to tell me whatto do, she's not going to tell
me what to eat.
She says it's going to be good,she's good, she.
And then go, I drop her off atthe airport, airport, and and
you know, sometimes I don't even, I didn't even stop, I don't
even slow down, I just kind ofopened the door.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, like go bitch.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Off you go and she's like what, are you in a hurry to
get rid of me?
No, no, it's, I'm caught up onall my work stuff.
I'm just going to go in thehouse.
I got the puppies andeverything, but I'm going to
take care of them.
But then I'm going to sit onthe couch.
(03:11):
I've got my bottle of Bacardi.
I'm going to make myself a bigdrink of Bacardi and Coke Zero
and I'm going to get Taco Bell,since I don't ever eat fast food
hardly, I Don't ever eat fastfood hardly I'm going to get
Taco Bell.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But there's a reason for that.
You get sick every single time.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't care, it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
He swears, he swears he can eat Taco Bell.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You get sick every single time, but I'm going to
get me some Taco Bell and I'mgoing to put it there and I'm
going to eat it.
And I'm going to turn on myCall of Duty games or one of my
games I love to play EliteSniper.
I'm going to play something andno one's going to be bothering
me and I'm going to eat my TacoBell.
I'm going to drink my drink andI'm just going to be there by
myself and it's going to beawesome.
And I forget sometimes that wehave a Furbo camera so she can
(03:54):
know where she's at.
She can just log in and look atme and all of a sudden I'll be
playing and I'll.
What are you eating?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I know and you think all that is great, right, I
don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I think this is going to be fantastic and I love it
and it is great for about threehours.
And then I realize, okay, now Igot to go to bed and she's not
in bed.
And the puppies are likewhere's mommy?
And you know well, she's nothere.
And then we have to get in bed.
And then I realized, okay,she's not in bed.
(04:27):
Or then I wake up in themorning and she's not there, or
I wake up in the middle of thenight and go to touch her and
she's not there.
So that's when it gets reallylike oh, I get sad about it.
Okay, that that little fantasyI had about the Taco Bell and
the video games was great for afew hours.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But then I get back to reality and it's like, okay,
we are codependent on each otherand I mean not that I don't let
you have your Taco Bell, youcan eat whatever you want, but I
always tell you, make goodchoices, right, eat better, eat
healthier, because again youalways have, since your hiatal
hernia surgery, you can't handlea lot of foods.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And I always tell him that's going to make you sick.
Oh, leave me alone.
You just want to control what Ieat.
No, you're going to get sick.
Yeah, he gets sick.
He's throwing up, he hasdiarrhea.
It's just a bunch of problemsthat you get.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It's all part of the Taco Bell experience.
Just letting you know that.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, maybe I they don't call it running from the
border for nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So that's the experience that you're getting
there.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So you're saying I'm a Taco Bell away to be on my
perfect weight.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So yeah, I don't tell you not to eat that because I
want to control you.
I tell you that because I careabout you and about the Bacardi.
I mean you can drink a lot ofit and sometimes it's not like
water.
He doesn't get hangovers.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I don't get super drunk either.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I know His body can process it.
But again, it's not good foryou, babe, and I worry about you
.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I know that and even, like I said before, you
secretly hope that my blood workcomes back and I'll please let
this be the time that his liverenzymes are high, so he'll
listen to me and get off theBacardi.
But then it comes back and shesays how is this asshole just
having perfect liver?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I know, I have like two glasses of wine and then I
get super horrible hangovers andthen my liver enzymes are
through the roof and I have highcholesterol and how are you
fine?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't know.
You think I pay off the labpeople to make sure the numbers
stay correct.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Maybe you do.
Now that you're saying that,maybe you do, maybe I get some
results and you get some otherresults.
Right, but again now that you'resaying that maybe you do, maybe
I get some results and you getsome other reasons, right, uh,
but again, I don't try tocontrol you, I'm just trying to
make you live longer.
Yes, because I love you and Iagain, maybe we are codependent
on each other and it there was apoint where every time we were
(07:03):
not together, we were fighting,like I didn't like that feeling
of you not being with me.
I think it has gotten betterover the time, but I again,
because you were eating thewrong foods, you were drinking
your all your Bacardi and thenyou were not working out and I
(07:25):
was just like why can't you justbehave when I'm not there?
But it has gotten better.
I don't watch the photo cameraa lot anymore when I'm gone.
Actually, I can track his phone.
That's not too stalkerish I cantrack his phone, know where he's
(07:48):
at, and I don't do that anymore.
I used to, but I don't do thatanymore.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, I can remember you would send me a text why are
you at so-and-so?
Why are you at so-and-so?
I'm like how do you know I'm atso-and-so, I know, but I don't
do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I am better than that now.
I trust you're going to do goodchoices and if you don't, your
body will tell you.
And now you're like, oh, I callyou.
If I'm in Spain, I call you.
Like, oh, I'm like, what'swrong?
Nothing.
I'm like you have a tummy ache.
No, I'm fine.
(08:23):
You just had Taco Bell, Maybe.
Or you just ate the biggest.
You loved your Tex-Mex food,but your body can't process it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, not anymore.
Not anymore.
I just can't.
I used to.
I grew up in Houston and Texasin general, so I was a huge
Tex-Mex fan for so long.
But I can't, my body just can'tprocess anymore.
So I do have to have my fix.
So we'll go to a restaurant orsomething, but I literally get
the smallest kind of samplerplate I can get.
So I taste this, taste that,taste that, but there's
(08:57):
otherwise I and I still feel alittle nauseated when I finished
.
But it definitely my body can't.
There's so much like bad fatsand carbohydrates in that that
it just it makes me nauseated.
I can't eat it.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Exactly so.
That's why I know.
I know exactly when when you're, when you're eating, when
you're not supposed to be eating, and your body tells you that.
Yeah, but you also have alittle.
Every time I go away, he getssick.
Yeah, every time I go away, hejust falls sick, and I don't
(09:29):
know why, besides the stomachproblems, there was this time
that I don't remember where Iwent and you were in LA.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, I think you were back in Spain.
You went back to Spain.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
No in LA, no because we moved from LA to Spain.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I don't know where you were.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I don't know where I was.
Oh, I think I went to MexicoCity with my mom.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh and Tiffany.
Yeah, I took Tiffany and my momto Mexico City and I remember
you were like telling me howsick you were.
I was telling them this morninghe was fine and Tiffany said
maybe he's having like andywithdrawal and maybe it was a
thing, because I even rememberyou recorded this video in case
(10:16):
you didn't make it through thenight yeah, I mean I may have
been a little dramatic and youonly had a fever like you're
like um, I have the chills, Ican't stop shaking, and I saw
the video later and you're likebaby, this is it.
I love you.
Take care of the puppies.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It was a little.
I had a little drama episode.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I know it was only because I was away and I love
you for that.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, when you're away.
But you know you also do somestuff.
That's like I think I rememberyou got mad that you were at
some I think you were, I thinkyou were with Tiffany somewhere
and on our corporate like ourcredit cards and stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
When we used, like one of our cards, american
Express, it pops up on the otherperson's our phone like
so-and-so spent this much moneyat a restaurant and I had gone
to this Italian.
We were living in Manhattan andthere was this Italian
restaurant that we liked and Iwould go sit sometime at the bar
and get the thing.
But I didn't think it throughand the guy's like, oh, what are
(11:23):
you going to get tonight?
I said, oh, I don't know, maybeI get this, and it was like a
steak or something.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So I went to see Tiffany down in Corpus Christi
and I remember we were havingdinner.
It's Tiffany, her boyfriend,husband aka Justin, and Justin's
friend that this is the firsttime I meet this guy.
His name was Drew, he is Drewand we're here having dinner at
(11:52):
the table and suddenly and Ikeep telling him what are you
going to do tonight?
Please make good choices, don'tgo out.
Don't go out and spend a lot ofmoney.
Don't go out and drink too much.
You're by yourself, take careof the puppies.
And he's like yeah, yeah, no,I'm fine, I puppies.
(12:13):
And he's like yeah, yeah, no,I'm fine, I'm fine.
And suddenly we are havingdinner.
I put my phone down and I see acharge on American Express for
like $400.
In my head I thought, oh my God, he is with somebody.
Who are you with?
Who are you with?
Who are you buying dinner for?
It's impossible that this manis going to spend $400 on
himself.
That's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I bet you used the term who's that bitch?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I know who's that bitch you're with.
Who are you buying dinner for?
Are you drunk?
And you decided to buy dinnerfor somebody.
And I literally remember wewere at dinner and I was like
this motherfucker.
I was like Tiffany's like what?
I'm like I'm going to kill yourdad.
(12:57):
And this guy drew again.
He doesn't know the dynamic, hedoesn't know who I am, why am I
there?
And he doesn't know what'shappening.
I'm threatening to killTiffany's dad and she's like
what did he do?
I'm like I don't know.
He's probably with somebodybuying them dinner.
And she's like, oh, call him.
I'm like, no, I'm gonna let himcall me and I'm gonna be making
sure he knows I am mad.
And he calls me.
(13:18):
And now tell us a story.
Why?
Why were you spending fourhundred dollars on a dinner by
yourself?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
because I went to the bar and I sit at the bar and
they know it's there and the guyusually was like, make
suggestions and things.
And he was like, oh, you shouldtry this so-and-so, the Wagyu.
It was like a Wagyu steak orsomething like that and dummy me
didn't say, oh, how much isthat?
I just thought, okay, thatsounds good, give me that.
(13:45):
And it was this giant likeWagyu steak or something.
And it was this giant likeWagyu steak or something.
And it was unbelievablyexpensive.
And I was like when I got thebill I was like, oh my God, and
I was like what am I going tosay?
Okay, I just felt I was moreembarrassed than anything else,
like how did I do that to myself, that I bought that expensive,
because you know me, I don'teven eat that much stuff.
I was like usually we go toreally we only really eat high
(14:07):
end steakhouses and kind ofthings, but I'm still, when we
go, I get like a six ounce filet, maybe the eight ounce we're
sharing, or something like that.
That's what I was thinking.
I get the six ounce filet.
It's $40, $50.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Because I know how much you eat.
And then some side dishes.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I don't eat that much food, so it's like I usually,
just I generally don't eat.
You know, that expensive of ameal, exactly.
That's what I thought you werewith somebody.
I was more embarrassed that Idid that to myself.
I'm like how did I let myselfdo that?
That was stupid.
Oh my God.
(14:39):
I hope she doesn't find outabout this.
I'll never hear the end of this.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And I didn like hey, I'm like, what are you doing?
I don't know, what are youdoing?
You're like I just had dinner?
Yeah, of course you did.
Why are you spending so muchmoney?
Who were you with?
You're like, what are youtalking about?
And then you were reallyembarrassed about that and you
story yeah, or so.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
He says yeah, that was absolutely it.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So he says, yeah, so here I am in New York walking
back in the rain no umbrella.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Walking back in the streets in the rain.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Miserable and a pale.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Regretting my life choices.
It was appropriate that I'mwalking in the dark, in the rain
and miserable with my lifechoices that I just made and a
bag of $200 steak in my hand.
Puppies, you're going to eatgood tonight, oh.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I know and anyway, I mean that happened, that's funny
.
Well, now it's funny, but I wasreally really mad at you that
time, yes, or the time that thisguy I swear, every time I leave
this guy's like, oh, I'm goingto go have dinner with a friend,
(15:52):
like you're, I don't know, youwouldn't have dinner with
somebody.
And again like I'm somewhere,and then I see $600 dinner.
I'm like what?
Oh, we went to Nobu.
I'm like, and why do I have toleave town?
And then you just go to thesefancy places.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And just spend all this money.
I take you to Nobu all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
We would go to Nobu all the time.
In New York we don't spend thatmuch money.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
In New York.
We did In New York every timewe went to.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Nobu, it was expensive.
No, it wasn't that much.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, it's $500, $600 for dinner every time in Nobu.
You, I'm in Nobu, you didn'tsee the check so you have no
idea what it costs.
But in Nobu, in New York, it's$500, $600 for dinner.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I know, but, man, I don't know why every time I
leave you have to just be anaughty boy.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I like my food.
I like good food, yes, but youhave to pace yourself bro, I
know, well, I did, but you knowyou have to calm down.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I tell you all the time, eat at home.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And then suddenly, and I do now I eat a lot at home
now Every time I go now I makea lot of dinner at home.
I can't stay If you're gone fora week.
I'm not going to stay everysingle night at home, I just get
bored.
So I got to go do something.
But most of the time now I justsnack at the bar or have some
drinks there and then watch alittle sports or something and
(17:11):
then go home and I don't go toofar from the house now.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I stay pretty close to where we live and when I'm
doing that, but it's fine, youknow.
I think I'm interested to knowwhat couples out there and again
, please like, subscribe,comment I'm really interested to
know if you are a couple andyou have this issue where you
work together too and you seeeach other all the time, what is
that dynamic like for you?
(17:36):
How do you break apart that andget some time apart so that you
can miss the other person?
Again?
I've said before in otherepisodes we don't really do a
thing where you say I'm goingout with the girls tonight or
I'm going out with my buddiestonight.
We don't.
That's not a thing we do,you're my buddy.
Yeah, we just go out togetherand go watch.
(17:56):
You know a lot of time that wego to the daytime.
We go to sports bars, watchgames or we have we found some
recently a great sports bar thatlets puppies come to here.
So we take the puppies with usand we do that kind of thing.
That's really we kind of it's afamily thing and that's our
family thing.
That we do is take the puppiesand go to sports but we really
like.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
don't get tired of each other.
I never get tired of.
Well, sometimes I wake up inthe middle of the night and I
see you and I'm like I couldreally kill you right now.
But then I remember I love youso.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, that's because I did something in your dream
wrong.
Yeah, that's because I didsomething in your dream wrong.
I did something in your dreamwrong.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yes, sometimes you're just cheating on me in my dream
, or you're probably, I don'tknow.
Sometimes you do stupid thingsin my dreams and I don't like
that.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I'll work on that.
I'll see what I can do to dosmarter things in your dreams.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I'll do my best.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yes, please Be better in my dreams, but I really
don't feel tired of you.
I never think well, except whenyou're over my shoulder telling
me what to do and that I haveto finish a deadline of
something and I tell you to goaway.
But you go away to the couch,so that's fine.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
And then I ask you, show me what you're doing over
there.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I know I'm like what he's like.
You're not doing what you'resupposed to be doing.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Right Again, because again I'm not being overbearing,
but again you have ADD and Ihave to keep you relatively on
task or we don't get thingsaccomplished.
And again it's not one of thosethings where, if I could do it
myself, I would not bother youto do it.
In other words, it wouldn't belike, hey, this needs to be done
(19:33):
and I full well know how to doit.
I just think you should do thistoo.
I don't do that.
Like part of our jobs is you doall the creative stuff and the
design of everything and themarketing and all that kind of
stuff and I do all the boringstuff.
So I'm the one sitting in therefilling out 20 different uh
(19:54):
packets of you know paperwork.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That's 25 pages long, you're still asking me
questions.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
There's things I have to know that I don't know in
there.
That's why I have to get theinformation for him.
But I'm the one that has to doall this tedious, boring work
that I have to do, and I wouldnever expect you to have to do
that as well.
If it's stuff that's my job andthat's part of what I bring to
the table, I need to do that andso I do that, but I also have
(20:24):
to kind of check and make sureokay, while I'm doing this, are
you doing what?
you get caught up on doingsomething else.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I know I do.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So I have to keep making sure that you're at least
staying somewhat on track sothat we can flow the way we're
supposed to flow.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Fine, I'll allow it.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And also it's sometimes even when you get
bored about like being at home,because we're at home all the
time you go behind me and I cantell you're bored and you're
like what are you doing?
I'm like working.
Oh, okay, like what do you want?
What I don't know?
(21:05):
I'm bored.
Like okay, you want to gosomewhere?
Yeah, let's go somewhere and wego out to have lunch.
But you're so cute when you dothat, like you're just start
like lurking around.
Yeah, you're lurking, I'm lunchlurking.
Yeah, you're lunch lurking,You're like yeah, let's go eat
some lunch.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That works to our advantage because we can go.
We can just shift dynamic andwe can go sit and lunch, have a
glass of wine, have some lightlunch and still continue the
conversation about work we canstill talk about.
Oh yeah, we have to do this.
We have to do this.
This needs to be done.
We can plan it for doing apodcast.
We can plan it.
What are we doing again?
What are we supposed to behitting on?
What are we supposed to be in?
(21:50):
My normal, most of my careerthing that I absolutely hated
and a lot of people do that.
That's a normal American lifewhere you go and you work from
830 to 530 or whatever andyou're in your office or you're
in your cubicle and that's whereyou go every day.
And to me that was likeabsolute hell.
I just couldn't imagine and Ihated it.
That's why I would never stayin my office If you would go
(22:12):
through like looking for Well,he also had no windows.
He was like no Well, in thatoffice that you met me in I did
not have windows.
It was miserable, but that'swhy you would find me a lot of
times.
I wouldn't even be in my office, I'd just be walking around
because I had to be talking topeople and getting out of my
office.
I hated sitting in an office ina box, sit in your little box
(22:34):
from this time to this time, andthat to me was just absolute
hell.
I did not want to live my lifelike that and it was miserable
to do that.
So I just made a commitment tomyself that once we did our own
thing.
That's why we won't haveoffices like ever.
We're not gonna have officesever, because it's like.
I'm not gonna do that.
Nor do I wanna put other peoplethrough that.
I'm not gonna make you come sitin an office all day.
(22:54):
You can work anywhere.
You have access to Wi-Fi, yourcomputer, your phones.
As long as I can reach you, Idon't need you sitting in an
office where, again, I don'twork in a bank in the 1960s
Times have changed.
The dynamic of the workplace haschanged.
You don't need to work that way.
(23:15):
The money you would waste onoffices and stuff.
You could plow that money intomarketing social media, hiring
another person Everybody.
Work out of your house, enjoyyour life.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, but corporates don't like that.
Corporate people like it.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Because they want to control you.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
And again, to me, it's not about the control, it's
about the results.
Do you get the job done?
Do you get the results done?
I don't care what you're doingat every moment of the day, I
don't care if you're sittingthere going.
Oh wow, I'm waiting onsomething like that.
I'm watching a Netflix thing inthe background about you know
serial killers or whatever,which Tiffany does nonstop and
(23:48):
she works for us.
She's constantly listening tothe Netflix serial killer things
and she still gets her workdone.
I don't have to go, oh, howcome you didn't get this done?
Oh, because I was sitting onthe couch watching TV.
No, she can work, she canmultitask and listen to that at
the same time and still get herjob done.
She's not having to go to anoffice every day and do that and
(24:08):
I think that's just.
I think that's a mentalitythat's, that's way old thinking,
it's not futuristic andtechnology allows you to do
other things.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
It can get a little bit overbearing when you work at
home or from home because youdon't know when to put a stop in
it.
I remember like sometimes it'slate and you have to tell me
stop working.
Or if we're in Spain and withthe time difference, I have to
work late.
(24:36):
It's like 10 pm and I'm working.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, because there's a seven hour time difference.
And what do we say when ourbiggest cut like Sally Sally
says hey, I want to have aconference call at their time.
At the end of the day, we're onthe phone at one o'clock in the
morning for us having aconference call.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And also we deal internationally.
So you could be on the phonewith Asia, yeah, and all night
long I'll hear beep, beep.
What is that?
It's somebody in Asia, it'ssomebody in Singapore, it's
somebody people.
We're all over the world.
So you're working acrossmultiple time zones that people
also have to consider takingconsideration when you're
planning your day.
But I have to sometimes tellyou OK enough, you don't have it
(25:14):
, it's not a deadline, just stop, unwind, relax.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
You can pick it up in the morning, yes, but a lot of
people it can get overbearing, Iknow.
Remember when we lived in NewYork we had this neighbor that
from our bedroom we can see herliving room.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
That from our bedroom .
Speaker 1 (25:27):
we can see her living room.
This poor girl, oh my God.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
It was like nine.
She's like a graphic designeror website designer or something
?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
We only know that because she had multiple screens
.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
We only know that because I'm being Mr Nosy and
I'm looking at what is sheworking on over there.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I know Nosy Nancy.
She's like what's she doing?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's my neighbor working on over there.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, and she had like two different screens, big
giant screens, big giant screenswhich usually is like if you do
design or something Right, andshe was there from 8 in the
morning, I remember we'll wakeup, she's already working.
And she was.
It was 10 pm and she was stillworking.
Yeah, I'm like this poor woman.
I will be like trying to knockon the window like hey, hey,
(26:05):
stop.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Come over for a glass of wine, calm down.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Like she was on her sweatpants all day, just working
and working, and I understandthat sometimes, working from
home, you don't know when to puta stop.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, well, usually, because again, it's about the
task or what your responsibilityis and not about the hours, and
that's the thing.
And I would get into my formerjob.
I used to get into argumentswith the, the bookkeeper,
controller type person, who wasan older school lady, like old
school lady, and you know she'donly worked in the old school
offices type environment, andshe would always come by and ask
(26:40):
well, we're so and so you know,because it's it's five o'clock
and they've already left and ouroffices are open till five
thirty and they've already leftand our offices are open until
5.30.
And I'd be like, well, they didall their work and their son
has a baseball game today thathe's playing.
So him and his wife are goingto watch their son's baseball
game that they're playing andall his stuff is already done.
(27:00):
Yeah, but our corporate policysays look, and I stop it right
there.
So I don't work in a bank inthe 1960s, I don't work that way
.
My people work for me, they getthe job done and then they go
live their life, because it allisn't all about the company.
Let people live their lives and, you know, have a good life
with your family.
That makes a person, a betterperson, a better employee and
(27:23):
more loyal person to you becauseof the way they get treated.
And I said you know how manytimes I call this guy on the
weekends, when he's not supposedto be working, and say I have
an emergency, can you handlethis for me?
He never says, well, no, it'sthe weekend.
I don't work on the weekendsbecause our corporate policy.
He doesn't talk that bullshit,he just gets it done.
He never, ever questions me andI don't pull the hallway and
say, hey, everything is done andI'll be back early in the
(27:50):
morning to get things done.
If you need anything, call me.
I'll have my cell phone on, butmy son's playing his first
baseball game.
That, to me, is more importantthan appeasing the controller
bookkeeper lady down the hallwaythat we're not following this
corporate policy, which isantiquated bullshit.
So I don't live life that way.
I wasn't going to let themdictate to me how to work.
So anyway, if you havequestions, comments, we'd like
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