July 2, 2025 • 53 mins
When the free agent frenzy hits, no one captures the raw emotion and strategic analysis of Rangers hockey quite like the Two Guys One Cup podcast. In this impromptu midday episode, Shawn and Roc break down the Rangers' biggest offseason moves with unfiltered passion and insider perspective.
The centerpiece of discussion is Vladislav Gavrikov's seven-year, $7 million deal with the Blueshirts – a contract both hosts view as surprisingly reasonable in today's inflated market. "He probably took less to come here," they observe, noting comparable defensemen commanding $8.5 million or more. The contract's structure reveals Drury's blueprint: a five-year competitive window aligned perfectly with the team's core of Panarin, Zibanejad, and Fox.
Meanwhile, K'Andre Miller appears headed to Carolina, with rumors suggesting draft pick compensation centered around a future first-rounder. This sparks heated debate about asset management and whether the Rangers are getting proper value for a defenseman once glowingly praised by opposing coaches during playoff battles.
Beyond these headline moves, the hosts dive into roster construction puzzles: Who centers the third line? Which prospects might finally break through? And most critically – can star players who excel in the regular season finally deliver when the playoffs intensify?
For Rangers fans navigating this transformative offseason, this episode provides the perfect blend of tactical insight and genuine fan perspective. Join the conversation and share your thoughts on Drury's plan to build a true Cup contender.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Two guys, one cup Sean and Rockhere doing a little reagent
(00:38):
frenzy.
Couple hours late.
It's alright, though we're ableto come on here middle of the
afternoon.
It's a little unique for us.
We didn't even plug it, so ifanyone's watching this, god
bless you.
Thanks for joining.
Certainly wasn't something weexpected to be doing right now,
but here we are.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
But this is what makes it fun.
This is what makes what we dofun.
We're fortunate enough to havethe flexibility to do these
things, so it's nice.
And you know we're going tohopefully get a different crowd
that we normally get.
You know, at 930 at night we'regoing to get some different
people Oleg's in the chat, olegTverdotsky, any chance?
(01:17):
He's been traded a few times ontrade deadline.
What's going on?
Bud, welcome, welcome.
It's exciting, man.
I mean this is, this is themost, the most juice I've had
for an off season in a while.
Um, they added a piece thatthey desperately needed.
Um, and uh, you know they gotthem at a number that I think is
(01:39):
is palatable, that I pronouncedthat right, because you know it
was good I'm like the man dogwhen it comes to pronouncing it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It's either there or it's not.
Yeah Listen, Mikey, it'spalatable.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But no, I mean everyone, I mean from all
accounts.
We've heard this for weeks andyou're not going to like this
comment, but I thought aboutthis before.
Arthur Staple was the first onethat had it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Oh, he's blocked on my phone, so I wouldn't have
known that.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
He is the first one that had Gavrikov or Keonji
Miller.
Gavrikov.
The Rangers were in on Gavrikovthat he hit free agency, that
that was the guy they were goingto get.
That was the guy they weregoing to target and he was the
first one that brought it up.
Like today, or like no, no, atthe draft combine.
He brought it up, got it.
This was weeks ago.
(02:24):
Well, hello from Israel.
Oh, he's in Israel.
Nice, wow, nice, god bless.
Do you have any relatives inIsrael?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
No, do you know of no ?
No Mike in Houston, is thatMike Silvers?
Oh it might be Mike.
Is that you?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It might be, that might be him.
Hello there, he likes to saythat, so that might be him.
So welcome.
We have 35 people so far.
That's great.
So anyway, yeah, it's exciting.
I mean it's an excitingoffseason.
So far They've added a piecethat they've needed.
They didn't I don't think theybroke the bank.
I mean, you see, the contractsthat are getting thrown around
out there, around out there,dude, I mean obviously
(03:08):
proveroff's a better offensiveplayer, right.
So he got a bigger contract, hegot an 8.5, and I think the
rangers needed to stay away fromthe eight million dollar range
and they did, and I think theybrought in a guy that's gonna
play, just play defense and takethe body and play smart and
just do what he do what he doeswe.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
We've signed Shusterkin for a $12 million
goalie moving forward.
He's turning 30.
He got Panera and Silva foranother year.
You went out and you traded alot of assets to bring in JT
Miller.
The thought that this team wastanking or the thought that this
team was going to half-ass.
It made no sense and when itbecame, obvious.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Was that something that was going around?
Because I didn't hear that.
You heard about tanking.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, but I'll finish my point Once Provorov is gone,
like Gavrikov was the.
If you didn't get Gavrikov,what were you doing?
Like who was going to be, whowas going to play 24 minutes a
night next to Foss Miller?
Well, that's the scary part.
So it became and, like you said, we've heard the rumors for a
(04:10):
month that Gavrikov is cominghere.
It's the worst kept secretaround the NHL.
So I was always confident thatGavrikov was coming.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That's the whole tampering aspect of everything.
Nobody announced any signingsuntil like 12.
An hour later they were alljoking about it.
I've been watching this thingsince 11 o'clock on tsn.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So, yeah, I know um, but once it became obvious that
he was going to be the guy, yeah, and then a guy that I wanted I
had circled, that I brought upon the show numerous times, was
christian devorek.
He's the first domino to go andhe gets five and a half.
I go.
If he gets five and a half, thengabrikov's gonna get nine yeah
(04:47):
yeah, and you hear, and youheard, um you know, pierre
lebrun and everybody on thepanel saying they expect
gabrikov to get more money thanum proverovka, which is eight
and a half yeah, so I hadalready resigned myself to
gabrikov's coming, and it'sprobably going to be nine
million by seven, by seven years.
I've already like accepted that, because if they don't get him,
(05:09):
then what's the move you had tobring in?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
someone like.
That move probably would havebeen to bring in maybe like a
nate schmidt or a defenseman ofthat.
And what are we doing then?
You, for one year you would be,you would have been piecing it
together, they would.
That's probably what would havehappened.
They were going to try to maybepiece it together for one year
and see where it happens, andwe'll get into it.
It looks like there might notbe any free agents come 2026.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
All trades and you got to retain your own guys.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
This makes it almost like and a lot of teams that's
what they were doing.
They were retaining their ownplayers.
That this makes it almost like.
And a lot of teams, that's whatthey were doing.
They were retaining their ownplayers.
That's what they were doing.
I mean, brock Besser went back.
You know, we saw what happenedin Florida.
A lot of these teams they'rekeeping their guys.
They're not, which is strange,because if you didn't win with
them, why are you bringing themback?
But I guess, when there's noother alternative, you have no
choice.
(06:00):
Yeah, you have no choice, yeah,yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So Gavrikov definitely took less to come
here.
I don't think that that's evenup for debate.
Right, because he would on theopen, on the true, true open
market, if he allowed like, ifhe just allowed himself to go to
the highest bidder.
Right, someone was going to getmatched with Provorovka at the
very least.
Right, if not go over, becausehe's literally all that stuff.
I literally all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I mean, ryan Lindgren got $4.5 million and someone
just posted would you ratherhave Ryan Lindgren at $4.5
million or Will Borgen at $4.1?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
It's not even close.
Yeah, it was like 94% Borgenwhen I clicked on it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
That's why, when people were crying about that
Borgen contract, I'm like relaxRight.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Relax.
The Cavs are going to relax.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You know I mean I, a bargain, relax, right.
You know I mean I I want to.
You know, we're all.
We're all, we're shitting onjury.
We're going to see what's goingto happen with this gandry
miller trade, which we didn'tget into yet, but it looks like
miller's going to carolina to me.
If miller's going to carolinaand I think steve corianos
mentioned it, he tweeted it outit has to be a pretty decent
package if you're trading thisguy in the division.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So, vince I just saw this now, but it's been sent
that out like 145 that, uh,carolina has two first round
picks next year, right, and thatthe miller trade will center
based around draft pickcompensation.
So they're dumping the salary,um, they're dumping the player
for for futures essentiallyright, but I'm saying they're
not making.
It's once again hockey trade.
No, okay, I thought that mightbe cocky.
(07:21):
Me might be coming back theother way.
How much is cut?
They can't afford four and ahalf, three more years.
I know they only have Onceagain.
I'm not making a hockey trick.
I thought that might be cocky.
Miami might be coming back theother way.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
They can't afford to Four and a half, three more
years.
I know, Sean, but they onlyhave 6.1 million and they still
got to sign Cooley and you gotto think they're going to bring
in at least one veteran.
I personally think Parsons isgoing to be their 13th forward,
but let's finish.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Let's finish on gabber cob.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's gonna be some bounce around why, wise man, you
are right I'm guilty of it, I'mthe worst at four years in.
You're getting it.
You're getting it.
It's awful.
Mason gerson resigned withBuffalo two years, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
There's a lot of guys .
I'm sitting here refreshing, soPuckpedia has a really good
tracker.
I didn't see that.
And they're getting it quickerthan anywhere else, are they?
Oh, puckpedia, puckpedia isgetting stuff on here before
it's on.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, they had the Romanov signing last night first
.
That was the first I'd sort,and all of a sudden guys were
putting it out.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's where I saw the Dvorak signing before it was
on TV or really anywhere else.
He's got a tracker right on themain page.
Here we go, thank you.
So, guys, if you see me turnaround, I have a whole second
set up.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Sammy Blade went to Montreal, huh.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, viva La.
France Just so everyone can see.
I got a whole second set upover here.
I got TSN and then I got thePuckpedia on that laptop.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, he has a whole thing.
I only got my phone and mylaptop.
So, you're a little bit moreset up than me.
I'm in the war room right now,but it's funny because when I
saw the number when LeBronLeBron was the first one I had,
I believe and he said sevenyears and $49 million and I'm
trying to do the math in my headI was like that's not really
(09:24):
that bad.
No, I said that's not $9million.
I knew that for sure.
I knew it wasn't $9 millionwhen I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
So percentage-wise it is.
Does it tell you on here?
Let me click on GabraCup.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
In five years, sean, that's going to look like In two
years.
That's going to look like intwo years.
That's going to look like agreat contract.
And you said it perfectly theAdam Fox contract looks great.
Now, if Evan Bouchard isgetting 10 and a half and Fox I
mean you want to say Fox ismaybe not as good defensively as
Bouchard and I don't watchenough of Edmonton to give an
honest assessment they'resimilar, they're full offensive.
(10:05):
I don't know how big isBruchard?
He's not that big right.
6'1".
Is he that big?
He's not small.
He's not small.
All right, I thought he wassmaller than that, but Fox is
5'11", obviously, and I thinkthat's generous because I a
picture of me, fox andBucinavich and I'm telling you
(10:26):
we Fox was between us, it's yeah, but he.
You look at Fox's numbers,they're very similar.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Right now he's at nine and a half million and
Bouchard's at 10 and a half, andthen you're going to see all
these defensemen are all goingto go past them now and pro
Rob's making a million dollarsless than Adam Fox and probably
Fox is a better defenseman.
We want to shit on him in a lotof ways.
No, no.
We want to shit on him in a lotof ways, but he's probably my
shitting on him is just thathe's not a, at least the way
he's made up.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And it's not fair, see is, and our fan base is so
guilty of it.
We compare everybody to BrianLeach Everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You know, every quarterback.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Every guy that's come into quarterback to power play
whether it's been Delzato, bradRichards, kotelik, Oli Okunin,
no matter who they brought in toquarterback, to power play oh,
this is going to be the best.
They haven't had a quarterbackon the power play since Brian
Leach, brian Leach, brian Leach,brian Leach, brian Leach.
It's not fair.
It's not fair.
You're talking about thegreatest rager of all time.
(11:31):
If you want to say he might beup there in the top five
greatest defensemen the Rangershave ever had.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Argument for another day.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, I'm just saying when you look at his number,
his salary cap number, now it'snot as bad.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And for you to say that that was impressive Cause
you're you're harder on Fox thananybody, Well, you're starting
to see cause I guess I'vemaintained I think he's a top 20
defenseman in the league maybetop 15, you know, depending on
the year.
But you're starting to see hissalary be commensurate with
where I think he fits and moreguys, and next year there'll be
(12:10):
another crop of defensemen thatare better than him.
That will pass him.
But we're talking two yearsfrom now as he really starts to.
He's not big, he's not going toage well.
Adam Fox isn't going to agewell.
So as we start to really creepinto the middle of this contract
(12:31):
, his cap percent.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
How old is he now?
He's got to be 27.
Is he that old at this point hemight be?
I mean, you know what it is.
These years have taken yearsoff my life, so these guys all
seem like they're youngerprobably it is.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
These years have taken years off my life, so
these guys will seem likethey're younger, probably
younger than they are.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
He's a year younger than lingren, right, so
lingren's 27, this will be hisage 27?
No, no, he's.
He is 27 now.
Oh, he's just 27.
Yeah, he hasn't.
He has a february.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
He has a february birthday I know that he turns 28
in february yeah, um.
So yeah, when he turns 30 andthe cap is 109 million.
The nine and a half, you knowthe nine and a half million
dollars is not going to be tooprohibitive.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
But you need him to produce.
Yes, in the playoffsspecifically, that's let me
listen again.
This is a story for another day.
But yeah, guys, the problemwith this team is you and I know
they're a talented regularseason team.
They've got the pieces for theregular season Panarin, kt Fox,
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they've got those guys.
The problem is is, can thoseguys, when the shifts get
tougher and they're beatingaround, can these guys absorb
playing against bigger teams andin the playoffs, where things
get tight and so far I meanPanarin's had his moments?
Fox has not produced in theplayoffs.
(13:54):
He's not been good.
He's not been good.
I don't even know what hisplayoffs number is, do you?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
want the breakdown on the Gabrikop deal.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I saw it, but tell everybody.
I know he's getting an $8million signing bonus right to
start.
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yes, $8 million signing bonus.
So his base salary for yearsone through five is $1 million a
year.
The rest of it is all signingbonuses $8 million, 6.6, 5.5,
and then five.
So he has a full no-move clauseyears one through five.
Year six he has a full no moveclause years one through five,
(14:29):
right.
Year six he has a 20 team notrade.
Year seven the final year hehas a 15 team, no trade.
Okay, so while it's aseven-year deal, we are truly
tied to him, probably for fiveyears.
For five which you know this,which is what it goes with the
timeline of jt miller'sadvantage ad box.
It goes with the timeline of JTMiller Zibanejad Fox.
It goes with the same timelineas when everybody else is pretty
much coming up, so they'll beable to move him at that point
(14:54):
if they needed to.
Not that I want to sit here andtalk about moving him, but
obviously they're planning thisaround the five-year run.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's always something that comes up in conversation.
Sean when it pertains to thesecontracts when these come out,
because the information is there, it's hard and it's hard not to
think about it because, yeah,how many guys last the length of
these contracts?
I mean, crider didn't last thelength of his right.
Brady shade didn't last thelength of his six-year deal.
Um, you know, rick nash didn'tlast his deal.
(15:22):
I know the range of the sign ofof Brad Richards.
I heard this is the last yearfor Brad Richards buyout.
Finally he's finally coming offthe books.
I mean, none of these guys lastthese contracts.
I know two guys that probablylast that contract Brandon Smith
, and that was only a four yeardeal, right and and Panarin, and
who knows, if they shit the bedhe might get traded at the
deadline, he might get traded atthe deadline.
So these guys don't last theircontracts.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I don't know, with what we're seeing with all these
, like there's going to be noone to bring in, unless, unless
they're that high.
Excuse me on Perot, for thefuture, that Panarin spot, you
know, in the top six wouldthat's what we're going to.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, that, let's get to that.
Now I mean Emily Ka.
That now I mean emily caplan,who she's, she's pretty good,
she's pretty on top of stuff.
She seems to think thatkaprizov and eichel are both
going to get done in in the inthe very near future.
Everyone's going to get donepeople aren't.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Every team has money under the cap now so they can
retain their well, here's thedifference, here's the other dip
.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
There's a difference.
Those two guys well, I don'tknow about kaprizov enough, but
eichel's in a great spot.
I mean, guys, vegas is one ofthe best franchises in hockey
and they don't get shit for it.
The Rangers got shit foreverything that went down and we
talked about it on our lastshow, about Drury and not being
in the boys' club and everythingelse.
(16:36):
But they have been cutthroatfrom day one and no one says a
word.
They just do shit.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
And it's impressive.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
They did it before they won a cup, though, sean.
To be fair, they did it beforethey won a cup, but they were
forced out a little bit about itand they won and it worked.
They weren't tied into theseno-movement clauses.
What are you shaking your headabout the Van Brieveste contract
?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, I'm like you just moved on from Tarasenko,
now you're bringing back Iserman.
Are you learning?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, I don't know, maybe they just want a bigger
body.
That's what I'm trying to thinkabout.
But the point of the matter isthat Vegas has been a standard,
a gold standard, as far as howto handle everything, and I
don't think Eichel's leavingthere as much as you know.
I mean, we missed our shot, itsucks.
(17:34):
I mean, if it was any otherteam than Buffalo, if it was
anyone else, he'd be a ranger.
Yes, and you can thank foreverybody, thank our billboard
friends, because they're thereason Eichel's not here.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
So it is what it is.
It's frustrating.
Old news In new news In newnews.
We have an update.
What's that?
Alex Bill Zeal returning to theMontreal Canadiens on a
two-year deal?
Oh no, On a one-year deal,two-way contract.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
No, don't tell me that I on a one-year deal,
two-way contract.
No, don't tell me that I can'tgo on.
I need a minute.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I need a minute to collect myself.
Feel bad for the sheet rock inRock's room over there.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, it's more of an emotional thing, emotional
feeling.
I had a very emotionalconnection to him Anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Good for him.
Good for him.
It's like everyone's NHLNetwork is announcing it, as
he's been traded to Carolina,but we don't have anything yet.
I mean, they're not going toannounce it until they've also
agreed to a contract.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's been clearly it's been part of it.
What the hell does this guy?
What the hell does I mean?
What?
Could he possibly Six, Six, Imean what Maybe?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
even more with what's going on.
Who would I compare him to?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
who would you compare him to?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
that just got a contract that you'd be like, oh
okay well, if you're carolinaand you're giving up, clearly,
clearly, at least a first roundpick right.
Um, again, that's another very,very, very valuable asset the
Rangers can use, you know, forthis.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Either way.
Yeah, like I said, either theyshould.
It's a valuable asset.
Yes, well, that's.
I don't know if you heardElliot Friedman talk about the
26 draft.
He seemed to think that teamsare going to be reluctant, like
good teams are going to bereluctant.
Bad teams excuse me, sorry,yeah Are going to be reluctant.
Bad teams excuse me, sorry,yeah are going to be reluctant
to give up that, that um 26 pick, because they don't want to be
(19:30):
the guy.
I mean.
Look what they said, look whathappened to the island yes, I
saw that you don't want to bethe guy that gives up mckenna
and apparently he's.
He's the cat's meow and he'sgoing to go to pittsburgh.
We know that right.
You know he's going topittsburgh, sean, because we
need another guy to have thefucking 10 with when crosby's
ushering out the door.
We know he's going topittsburgh just to make our
(19:50):
fucking lives miserable.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
You know that right yeah, so the two picks.
So carolina has their own pickand they have dallas's first
round pick okay, so the rangewill probably get the lower of
the two.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
whatever the lower of the two is and I'll probably be
top 10 protected and all thisother nonsense, lottery
protected and all this bullshit.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Then there's got to be more.
There's got to be more thanjust that.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I'm sure there's a prospect thrown in there.
I don't know enough about theirfarm system.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
They have no centers from what Steve said.
But how about a defenseman?
They're deep in wings.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Oh God, that's the last thing we need.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yep, they're deep on the wing.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Jeff Petrie is going to Florida.
Minimum contract plus bonusesthat's a nice signing for them.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, nate Schmidt going to Utah.
Yep Three and a half forSchmitty.
What else we got going on?
Yeah, it's been fast.
I see Petrie.
I see the Mason Gertson one now.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, mason Gertson.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So Sean Corrali and Michael Isamoth are off the
board.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Corrali went back to the Bruins, I saw Yep Gordon
Perry only got two milliondollars.
He got bonuses too.
He got bonuses.
It'll take them up to three anda half.
Oh, so that's what a lot ofthose older players are doing To
me.
To me.
I don't like doing that becauseI like to keep our cap flexible
(21:19):
for next year.
Again, I don't know, we don'tknow who's going to be available
, but from what, all accounts,are this crop of free agents
that we thought was going to beso good?
It might not be as good as wethought so, but again, do they?
I mean, let's mention this Dave, you bring back Panarin.
Um, that's the only alternativeBased on what I'm seeing again.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I would.
I would need more information.
I would need to know whatGabriel Perrault is, and it's
not my call to make, so theyneed to know what gabriel perot.
You know what it is, it's, it's.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You know, you gotta, he's not the guy that he is
gotta be, you gotta be a, yougotta have the money, and just
like the perfect storm whenthese guys are available.
When eichel was available, itwas like the perfect storm.
Like you didn't you need tohave that, that, that moment
where it just everything fallsinto place.
And the rangers had it a fewtimes, it just didn't work out.
I mean, they had the money forBrad Richards it didn't work out
(22:18):
.
They had Rick Nash it didn'twork out.
You know, they had thosemoments where they've been able
to bring in that guy, but itjust hasn't worked out and we
still always seem to get thatguy.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, Gavrikov was rated as the second best UFA
this year.
He's a ranger, Well.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
UFA, because all the guys resigned last night.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
That was nuts.
The opening to TSN, to the FreeAsian Frenzy show, was
hilarious.
What did?
They say what's the guy's name?
James Duthie.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Is that the guy?
He's very funny.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
He's very funny.
They show him laying down onthe desk and he's got the
whiteboard behind him with allthe names.
It's like, oh yeah, all right,so that guy's off the list, but
we still got Marner, we stillgot this guy that he's going
down the whole list and you seein the background Mitch Marner
signed and you're like he getsmore exasperated and crosses
them off.
(23:10):
I like it was one by one, tothe point where the shirt's
unbuttoned.
Very funny, if I could find it.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I'll share it on my Twitter for you guys.
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It was very funny, as much as you knew.
It was like Mel Brooks type ofhumor.
Yeah, or it's a little cheesy,but it was.
You got to laugh at me for it.
Tsn just does such a good jobthey do.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Sportsnet does a good job, but we don't have access
to it, right?
We used to.
It used to be on the initialnetwork, right?
They used to carry the TSN feedand then, when Someone bought,
I forgot what happened with TSNand then switched over To
Sportsnet.
Because it's funny, because Iwent back and on my TiVo, I
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forgot what happened with TSNand changed and then switched
over to, to, to sports net.
Cause it's funny, cause I wentback and on my TiVo I know I
still use a TiVo which Ifrigging love Do- you really use
TiVo?
I love it.
No, I love my TiVo.
I don't know I can't, I can'thave any other DVR.
I just don't like it.
I went back and looked at Ihave trade deadline and free
agent frenzy stuff from 2017 andthe 2017 draft.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
That's actually amazing.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So what I want to do?
I went back and listened towhat Panarin was signed.
I'm going to try to for ournext show.
I'm going to figure out how todo it.
I'm going to get it off the TVand play the clip of what they
said about Panarin.
It's hilarious, who he's goingto play with their whole
prediction for everything.
Alex Tangay was one of the onesthat was on the panel at the
time and I'm going to play it.
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It's very funny.
It's just so funny when thesethings happen and all these
years later, you hear them backand listen to it and you're like
, oh, they're talking about, oh,capo Caco, he's going to be so
good and blah, blah, blah.
He's a big body.
He's going to play with Panarin.
I'm telling you.
It's great.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
If I can figure out a way to get it off the TV.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm going to do that.
I want to start doing stufflike that.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That'd be fun, chris, somos in the chat.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
So what do you guys think?
Anybody who's in the chat, feelfree to post your thoughts on
Gabrikov signing or someone youwanted to see signed that wasn't
.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I think the Rangers still have guys they haven't
signed because they like to sendout press releases a lot in
bulk.
When they sign, like thosefringe players Like Gabrikov
will probably have his own pressrelease, but I think if they do
sign a minor league kind ofperson, they usually like to
send those out in bulk.
So I think we will see that atthe end of the day.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, but you would have someone reporting this
stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Oh, maybe that's true .
I mean, none of these smallsignings are getting past
Puckpedia, that's for sure.
You know what I haven'trefreshed that one.
Purbix is gone.
I saw that, purbix, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
That's a big body defenseman.
Zach Jones hasn't signed yet,did he?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
No, amazing, amazing that the Zach Jones market is
just not out there.
Been trying to tell you guysfor two.
Listen, I said last offseasonthat he showed enough at the
very end of the season beforethat he earned the chance.
He got his chance.
He showed very much that he wasnot the guy.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
And you move on.
Well, did you see thatstatistic about the draft?
Yeah, no defenseman got draftedunder six foot.
So what does that?
What does that tell you guys?
I mean d'angelo just got a newdeal with the islanders.
I mean he's under six foot, butI mean it's, it's, you know
that type of defenseman?
I mean jones will get acontract from somewhere, but
it's going to be for the leagueminimum and it might be a
two-way deal.
It might be a two-way.
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You know, we haven't seen anyof those guys.
It might be a one-way deal.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It could be a one-way deal for $875, and you just
bury it in Hartford.
The kid gets paid, but itdoesn't count against the cap.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
It's just a one right right I did, I did think and
again, I get what everyone saysI thought they would give kaliev
a shot.
I thought they gave him aone-year deal.
Say listen, work on yourskating in this offseason,
you're gonna, you're gonna get.
And they, and maybe theyoffered it to him and he said no
, I'm not good, I want, I wantto.
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I it's.
I think jury's learning alittle bit.
I think what was it Brooks thatsaid that the Rangers not
extending the qualifying offerto Jones was they were doing him
a favor, essentially by?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
not extending it, just let him go.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
They did this to Lebor Hayek.
Now Lebor Hayek might be comingback to the league after two
years or so.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
What's this Russian kid that Kevin Weeks put out?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Who is that?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Brian Dublin and Cody Ceci, both going to LA.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Wow, I thought Dublin was a name that we needed to
look out for.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Well, how can you sign?
Yeah, Sean, I just don't thinkthey can sign anybody of
substance.
Until what's Dublin gettingThree and a half million?
Wow?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I thought he'd be like a $1.5 to $2 guy.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Cody Ceci just got a four-year $4.5 million deal.
I could see that Dumoulin justgot a three-year $4 million deal
.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Three years and $4 million and we got Gabrikop for
$7.
I don't want to hear a fuckingperson complain about this
contract.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
No, listen, I don't think it's a bad contract and
again, he probably took less.
He probably took less.
I don't know what LA wasoffering, but it is incredible
to think that we knew this for amonth, Like this whole thing.
So I was thinking about it.
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I was like you know, you don'tneed to tamper.
I mean, the Rangers don't needto say where they can have ego
could call up and say, and theycould be friends for we know,
and that's an Aaron and say hey,listen, what do you think about
coming here?
That's the man, I would love it.
You know that'd be great, blah,blah, blah.
You know I'll talk to my agent,so on and so forth, and that'd
be great.
And then all of a sudden youknow he's coming here.
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Meanwhile you never said a wordto him, you never spoke to him,
but you knew he wanted to come.
That's not tampering Right, allright.
Players can do whatever theywant.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
The guy I you put his name up.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I was rolling because there's a certain person out
there he knows who he is whoabsolutely loved me.
Not just you, not you, a personthat likes to get autographs
all the time.
That's who turned me on to him,honestly.
Oh, and Forsberg.
Anton Forsberg's going to LA.
So LA just signed Corey Perry,joel Armia, brian Dublin, cody
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Cece and now Anton Forsberg.
Busy day for them Cup baby cup.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Nikita Gusev.
I wanted a trade for his draftrights from Tampa and then it
went to Vegas and I was likecome on, I think Vegas gave up a
second round pick for his draftrights, or something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
And didn't he go on his side of a New Jersey?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yes, but oh, he signed with Vegas first came to
like their camp.
Oh no, I'm sorry, that was theother.
That was the other Russian kid.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I went to Vegas first .
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, Another guy dominated the KHL Couldn't,
couldn't hack it here.
Who said dominated the the AHLCouldn't do shit here.
When I saw the picture of thatkid on on Twitter, I I thought
it was crafts up, Cause it's thesame team.
It was track, oh yeah.
Tractor Chili banks.
Yeah, they look alike, but he's5'8", 160 pounds, oh come on
(30:55):
Listen if he is.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Sean, honestly, if he doesn't cost you anything and
you could throw him in Hartford,I don't really give a shit.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I don't want him taking up a spot.
Look at how many kids they'regoing to have in Hartford this
year.
A lot, a lot of kids inHartford this year.
They need playing time.
Well, let's think about it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Who do you think we don't know what the third line
looks like, other than we knowthat.
We probably know that Parsonsis the third line center as of
right now.
As of right now, Parsons is thethird line center.
Who else?
I mean a Berard Hoffman, Perot,All three of them are making
the team.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
No, I think one of the three will.
I think they're going to windup with a third-line veteran
wing.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
What I thought they might do is find a cheap
third-line center, which mightnot be an option at this point,
and make Parsons in the 13thforward Third-line center.
And replace Brzezinski, becauseParsons can play center and
wing and you the 13th forwardThird line center, and have him
replace Brzezinski, becauseParsons can play center and wing
and you need that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And I think that's why they kept him.
Third line centers are goingfor $4 million right now, so
they're not finding a third linecenter.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, Bukestad went for two and a half, but still, I
mean every dollar matters.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Bukestad still he's more of a four, yeah, more of a
four.
Bukestad still he's more of afour.
Yeah, I guess I think you couldget away with playing him at
three if you got some speedaround him.
He's really more of a fourthline center.
If you gave me the choice ofBukestad or Parson, and just
going into the season, I'd takeBukestad because I know the guy
can still score and winface-offs and win face-offs.
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But I and win face-offs and winface-offs.
But I think you're going to endup seeing Parson and I think
that they're waiting to seewhich wings.
Everyone's playing musicalchairs right now.
Who's left standing, who's leftwithout a dance partner?
And that's the guy that they'llsign for a million bucks.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Noah Laba's going to be down there next year.
The Czech kid which I can'tpronounce his last name, is it
Jacob Schlemer?
Yeah, schlemer, I like whatI've seen and heard about him.
Sokora, sokora, mcconnell,barker.
He's a center, but justforwards, right, no, I know, I'm
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thinking about the wing, theguys that are on the way.
Well, no, no, a lot, it's noelaborate center.
Is he a center?
No, he's a center.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
All right.
So there a wing or center.
They got some young guys.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You've got to think that one of these guys, one of
those five guys we justmentioned, turns out to be
something right.
I hope.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So I have a lot of not faith.
I have a lot of hope in NoahLava.
He played really really well incollege, shows a lot of skill.
He's 6'2".
Morgan Barron physicallydominated in college it wasn't
(34:08):
necessarily because of skillNearly as much as Lava Lava.
He's got a lot of speed, a goodshot.
There's a chance that he couldbe something when he gets here.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Raddick Fox is going back to Dallas.
Three years, two million.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Brian Attard's brother's going to Colorado.
It's like all the same teamsare just signing, signing,
signing left and right.
Now Boston's adding two minorleague guys.
I mean Jury's made the bigsplash and I mean the framework
(34:43):
for the Miller trade's got toobviously already be done.
It's just a matter of millersigning the contract here.
Yeah, I, I don't know.
I mean it's uh all right.
So, no, no, inside scoop here.
But oh, but my deal, I forget,I don't care what your fucking
deal is.
Who is that hosting nonsense?
Uh, the suit, the hockey suit,the hockey suit.
(35:06):
No, thank you, this is what Iwould do.
I don't give a shit what youwould do.
So, friedman, still like crazy,how this?
You know, noise, noise, noise,nothing.
Yeah, like this can't be thathard to hammer out a fucking
(35:27):
deal.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We don't know what kind of contract he wants.
Maybe he's giving a hard timeJonathan.
Jonathan drew ends going to theIslanders.
Two years, 4 million.
Yes, it's not a bad deal.
Actually I'm surprised it's notthat low.
Jonathan drew as Jonathan drew,as a what's his name Said uh,
jonathan Drouin.
Jonathan Drouin as what's hisname?
Scotty Laughlin.
I like when he pronounces thoseFrench names and puts his
(35:50):
little enunciation at the end.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
We'll see what Drouin can do away from.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Nate McKinnon We've seen the Islanders find these
guys out of nowhere.
Brad Boys when did that getthem?
I'm just saying they.
They seem to find these guyslike on the scrap heap a lot of
times and drew and drew and hada good, decent season last year,
but I don't think he was thatgreat Right.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I see it.
No, he had a nice year.
What did he score?
What is it Like?
A point, 75 points a game.
Hold on, he always misses time.
He's always hurt.
You can hear me when I turnright.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, okay, freeman's saying he thinks the Rangers
game's trade is for the offersheet compensation.
Possibly a small ad.
That's what Mike Silvers justsaid.
So he had 37 points in 43 games.
Possibly a small add.
That's what Mike Mike Silva hasjust said.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
So he had 37 points in 43 games.
It's a good season.
You know when, when he was outin the playoffs, what do?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
you do, the Rangers would be getting a first, the
third and then maybe somethingelse for Miller.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
What a hope for more I mean you would have thought
for more.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I mean, you would have thought.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Especially with what you see, carolina always finds a
way.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
These guys always go down there and play well.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, shea Brady, shea played well.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Got a freaking seven.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Did you think he played well?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I didn't watch him enough, I would say no, but he
obviously played well enoughthat he got a huge contract.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Looked pretty terrible to me in two playoff
series.
Listen, Drury's not trading himin the division if he was
scared of him.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Well, no, I also think Drury's not trading him
into the division.
If that's the best package hecould get, he's getting the best
package he can get.
That's what I'm thinking.
I mean, maybe no one else isoffering a first.
Maybe people are offering afirst in 27.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe they want next year'sdraft, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
They made a point.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
They had the 12th overall pick?
Yes, and in most cases and inmost cases you're like wow, 12th
overall and we've seen decentplayers go at that number.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
There were decent players there for us at 12th
Right.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well, I'm just saying we've seen guys, for their
careers, excel at that number.
For them to give it up, you'vegot to think, for two reasons
One, they like the 26 draft andtwo, if they bottom out, they
can't be on the hook.
Trey can't be on the hook tolose a lottery pick.
So I mean, that's a big thing.
(38:36):
So in my opinion, I think thatthat's the reason why they
decided to move the 12th overallpick.
But yeah, 12th overall pick,but we're going to see.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
No, it was the right thing, it was the right thing to
do, but I'm saying the bookwon't be written on this trade
until we see what the rangers dowith that right.
So let's say, for instance,that they get, you know, they
get the dallas pick, essentially.
So I wonder if that'll bepredetermined, if there'll be
clauses.
Maybe there's no, maybe it'sunprotected and and that's why
we're accepting it- yeah, thatwould be interesting.
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I mean not that I thinkCarolina or Dallas is going to
not make the playoffs this year.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Who thought we wouldn't make the playoffs if it
wasn't the President's Trophy?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
This is true, you never know.
No, it's very true.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
You never, never know .
I mean it's incredible to thinkthat where this team was to
where they are now, and it comesdown to maybe guys getting old
quick.
I mean I don't know Kreider, Imean he went from being you know
and we'll see this year how heplays, but yeah, and also hurt
(39:41):
feelings, but they were not goodthis year Even when they
started off.
Great, those games.
You're like you wiped yourforehead and you were like wow,
how the fuck did they even winthis?
How did they win?
I mean, how did they win someof it?
Remember the Jonathan Quickgame against Detroit where he
was playing out of his mind andhe shut them out 4-0?
(40:02):
I think Jimmy Vesey scored.
They were up 1-0.
I think Jimmy Vesey scored.
They were up 1-0.
And I think Jimmy Vesey scoredin the third period to make it
2-0.
And all of a sudden they scoredlike two quick goals and it was
3-0.
And then that was it.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
We haven't seen the Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Vesey signing yet?
No, I hope he does sign.
I like him.
I'm a big Jimmy.
I'm weird players Like.
There's certain obscure guysLike I like Kaliev.
I saw glimpses of somethingthat could possibly be a good
player.
You know I like Vesey, you know, I just think you know these
(40:39):
guys.
There's just something therethat I like.
There's an intangible.
I remember Vesey.
That whole summer wasinteresting when he signed, when
that whole thing went down withhim.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, we got a lot of excitement.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
that offseason Was that the Shattenkirk offseason?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yes, I had that one too.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I had the trade deadline thing with Shattenkirk
also.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
It was the year before because VC was part of
the team that lost to Ottawa.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
That's right.
So they never made the playoffswith Shattenkirk, that's right.
Yeah, you sit back and youthink about it.
When they brought inShattenkirk, you're like they
were already on the way down atthat point.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Well, Shattenkirk was highly sought after.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, and he's another one that took less money
to come here and play.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, what else DC didn't actually dress.
Dc didn't dress at all for theplayoffs for Colorado.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
That was probably a gift when they sent him to
Colorado.
That was a favor to him.
He didn't play there either.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Jack Stutnicker.
That was another name, draftname.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Did Calvin DeHaan sign yet?
Speaker 1 (41:59):
No, still out there.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
He's going to blame us.
Now.
We're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Still out there.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Watch him come back.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
That would be funny.
It would be funny if he wantedto come back, yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
I don't know about that, I don't.
I don't think he was as bad aspeople said he was.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
He got raped twice and I forget what game that was.
I remember I was texting youwhile watching it.
I'm like he just got a pocketpick.
Washington, is that what it was?
Yeah, two really bad turnoversthat just wound up in the back
of the net Like one-on-oneturnovers, not even just like a
bad pass.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I'm very curious because you know Drury's going
to have some kind of conferencecall when all's said and done,
what he's going to say aboutmoves.
I don't know if they'll bringup the whole Susie thing.
I doubt they will bring upspecific guys, but I'm very
(42:55):
curious to see if he's alwaysgoing to.
I know what the answers aregoing to be.
I don't even know why I bother.
I guess we have to talk aboutit.
But if we get something outthere that makes us better,
we're going to look intoeverything.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,so on and so forth.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
He's not going to say anything.
I like spots.
We're going to do scriptedquestions with scripted answers.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
One thing I will say about Jeff Gordon.
You can read him more.
When he said something Like youcould kind of tell if he was
giving you like a cookie-cutteranswer or if he was giving you
like a genuine yeah this is whenwas the last time you actually
(43:40):
heard Chris Drury speak?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
We've gotten Q&A, where we get the excerpts.
When was the last time youheard his voice?
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Right, so there's nothing to read into it.
When they hired Sullivan Forthe coaches, he talks yeah, we
never.
And again, this is a pet peeve.
I've complained about it,you've complained about it, sean
McCaff, mike, we all havecomplained about this.
He never, we never, get to hearthe man speak, never.
(44:11):
Why can't they put theconference call on video?
Let us hear it with questions.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
They don't want anything thrown back.
They control the narrativecompletely.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Why, though?
What's the reasoning behind it?
What are they afraid of?
I don't know.
See, that's the problem.
See, the other fan bases maybenot.
I'm not talking about Canada.
Canada, because Canada'shockey's king.
So they have to do this stuff.
They don't need.
The Rangers don't need to befan-friendly, because they have
(44:48):
a rabid fan base.
It doesn't matter.
It's like they don't care aboutthe season ticket holders.
They really don't, sean.
They don't care about us.
They don't.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Every fan base has enough to get there, other than
like Arizona back in the day.
But outside of that, everyone'sgot their season ticket holder
base that they don't need toreally appease to because they
know whatever's on the ice isreally what's going to drive.
You know, drive attention.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, nothing else, huh.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Nothing else Kind of slowed down, yep.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, it's kind of.
It was kind of fast and furiousfor a bit and it's kind of
really slowed down a little bit.
They haven't announced theGavrikov, right.
The Rangers haven't announcedit yet, right, which means
they're probably On their site.
On their site, I think GregMcKegg's coming back.
Greg McKagg.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
The Keggerator, one of the ugliest looking men the
world has ever seen.
Oh God, hee-haw.
I just want some fuckingclarity on what we're getting
back from Miller here.
Just someone fucking announceit already, I know.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
You know, the second we get off.
They're going to announce it,right 100%.
We'll have to wait to talkabout it.
I guess we'll come back.
Are you available Thursdaynight?
Speaker 1 (46:11):
No, I have a game.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Wednesday night it's tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Really it's tomorrow.
We can come on tomorrow ifthere's anything that we haven't
covered here.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, We'll wait another five minutes, we'll go
to 3 o''clock see if anythingcomes through, because we're
kind of uh, we're not on steamhere.
It's uh, it's still not enough.
I mean gavrikov and you know,whatever compensation they get
(46:42):
for miller, you know, especiallyif it's just draft compensation
, I'm not sure if it's enough tosay, okay, this team has turned
the corner of their Stanley cupcontender.
I think a lot of things need tobreak for them next year.
I think Panera still needs toput up 190, at least put up 90
points again.
I think Miller needs to put upclose to 90 points.
(47:03):
I think you need at least 70points.
That is a bin a points.
I think you need at least 70points.
That is a Benajed.
I think you need Lafreniere toput up at least 50 points and
you need Cooley to progress andyou need Fox.
I mean, you need the guys thatnone other than Panarin, and
Panarin had a down year forPanarin standards but he still
put up 80 points on this shitteam.
You need those everybody togive you at least what 20%, 30%,
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more than what they gave youpoint-wise 15% more 20% is a lot
.
I told you I'm not good at math,yeah, but if a guy scores 50
points, 20% is what?
10 more points, 10 points, 20%guys scores 50 points.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
20% is what?
10 more points?
10 points, yeah, all right, 20%, we'll agree on 20.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
20%.
I mean, like you said.
I mean I just think there'smore to give.
I think Edstrom, I think he'sgoing to take a nice step I
honestly thought when he wentdown and he got hurt, I feel
like that kind of disjointed.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, because he was getting a lot of big goals.
When the rest of the lineup wasthrough, he was.
I mean, what?
Speaker 2 (48:05):
about that goal he scored against Vegas?
Yeah, what about the goal hescored with his back?
I mean he's spinning around, hesticks his stick.
I mean I'm telling you thatguy's going to be big for us.
That's a guy you win with inthe playoffs.
I saw, I mean, again, it was avery small set of ties, Sean,
(48:29):
but Noah Laba looked really gooddown there too.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Where.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
In Hartford yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
He played in Hartford .
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yes, he played on.
He was there on a tryout.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
I haven't, like I said, I haven't seen him play,
so yeah, he scored on his firstshift.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
I believe, down there , we need these guys, we need
these prospects, we need theseguys to, if nothing else, if
nothing else, we need these guysto be assets for us.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
I didn't realize he played 11 games.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
To be an asset for us , assets, we need assets.
You know, I mean we'vesquandered guy after guy.
I mean look at Miller, look atthe return, what's his name?
What's the shithead's name downin Florida, the coach Cooper,
he was glowing about KeandreMiller after that series.
I mean he did everything butgive him a reach Around in that
(49:29):
series, I mean, and he was goldback Then.
Now you can only get a Firstand a third round pick, which
was what we're hearing which wedon't know the compensation, but
you would have thought youcould get a prospect, a pick.
I mean three, four componentsFor this guy now.
Now you're giving him away fora late one.
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For a late first-round pick.
Now, if they turn thefirst-round pick into a player
at the trade deadline orwhatever, then maybe it's worth
it, but again you're giving theguy away where again it's poor
asset management.
Now they got a one for NilsLundqvist, they got a two for
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Leos Anderson, which turned outto be you know, they got Perot
and they got Cooley, essentiallybecause they traded their other
two first round picks.
No, I'm sorry, the Cooley wasin the Lafreniere draft.
I'd say the Lafreniere draftmight turn out to be a very good
draft for this team.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
They got some players in that draft.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Gorton was on his way to turning it around, and now
he's built an excellentorganization in Montreal.
They are so stacked, montreal,and then they make another trade
today.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Ronald Attard yeah, ronald Attard side.
Yeah, ronald Attard signed.
That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Just saw that.
Does he have that jerseyhanging in the basement?
He's probably dying for thisguy to play for the Rangers, oh
yeah, oh, he's probably dying.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I got a message from him.
I said you see, I saw yourbrother signed with Montreal.
Oh man, that's funny.
I just want to know this.
I mean, what time did theyannounce that Montreal
possibility?
I'm going to look that back upthat was at 1254.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
So that was two hours ago.
What Montreal possibility.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Oh, not Montreal.
Excuse me, the Miller Carolinathing, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
It's been two hours.
It was right after the Gabrikovsigning.
It was like Gabrikov signedMiller being traded Again.
This has obviously all beenworked out.
The trade itself has probablybeen worked out for a while.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
So it's just the Miller contract thing.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
That's right, it's all contingents on him staying,
you know, on him signing longterm, and maybe they're
hammering out different.
You know both maybe a four-yeardeal or a six-year deal, maybe
there's different options.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Maybe the Rangers are doing a sign-and-trade and he's
getting an eight-year deal.
Maybe I've seen a lot more ofthose, those sign-in trades.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
It depends on you know who it makes the most sense
to, did you?
Speaker 2 (52:13):
see that Darren Dreger put out that there's a
possibility that Bo and Biromight get an offer sheet.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah, I don't think it's happening.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Yeah, I don't think he's going to get traded.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
It was a Calgary right.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
He's a right-handed shot.
I mean D'Angelo resigned.
I mean they were talking aboutright-handed shots.
There was like none andD'Angelo wanted to go back to
the Islanders.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, For what like 1-7 or 1-7-5?
.
Yeah, good, I'm just happy he'sin the league.
I don't care where he goes, I'mwith you.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
All right All right pal.
Wrap it up.
I got to get back to work.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yep, if anything breaks, we'll get on somehow, or
?
Speaker 1 (52:56):
do something, See what happens.
Thanks for tuning in with usguys.
Thanks again for everybody.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Thank you Later Later .
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Two guys, one cup Sean and Rockhere doing a little reagent
(00:38):
frenzy.
Couple hours late.
It's alright, though we're ableto come on here middle of the
afternoon.
It's a little unique for us.
We didn't even plug it, so ifanyone's watching this, god
bless you.
Thanks for joining.
Certainly wasn't something weexpected to be doing right now,
but here we are.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
But this is what makes it fun.
This is what makes what we dofun.
We're fortunate enough to havethe flexibility to do these
things, so it's nice.
And you know we're going tohopefully get a different crowd
that we normally get.
You know, at 930 at night we'regoing to get some different
people Oleg's in the chat, olegTverdotsky, any chance?
(01:17):
He's been traded a few times ontrade deadline.
What's going on?
Bud, welcome, welcome.
It's exciting, man.
I mean this is, this is themost, the most juice I've had
for an off season in a while.
Um, they added a piece thatthey desperately needed.
Um, and uh, you know they gotthem at a number that I think is
(01:39):
is palatable, that I pronouncedthat right, because you know it
was good I'm like the man dogwhen it comes to pronouncing it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It's either there or it's not.
Yeah Listen, Mikey, it'spalatable.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But no, I mean everyone, I mean from all
accounts.
We've heard this for weeks andyou're not going to like this
comment, but I thought aboutthis before.
Arthur Staple was the first onethat had it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Oh, he's blocked on my phone, so I wouldn't have
known that.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
He is the first one that had Gavrikov or Keonji
Miller.
Gavrikov.
The Rangers were in on Gavrikovthat he hit free agency, that
that was the guy they were goingto get.
That was the guy they weregoing to target and he was the
first one that brought it up.
Like today, or like no, no, atthe draft combine.
He brought it up, got it.
This was weeks ago.
(02:24):
Well, hello from Israel.
Oh, he's in Israel.
Nice, wow, nice, god bless.
Do you have any relatives inIsrael?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
No, do you know of no ?
No Mike in Houston, is thatMike Silvers?
Oh it might be Mike.
Is that you?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It might be, that might be him.
Hello there, he likes to saythat, so that might be him.
So welcome.
We have 35 people so far.
That's great.
So anyway, yeah, it's exciting.
I mean it's an excitingoffseason.
So far They've added a piecethat they've needed.
They didn't I don't think theybroke the bank.
I mean, you see, the contractsthat are getting thrown around
out there, around out there,dude, I mean obviously
(03:08):
proveroff's a better offensiveplayer, right.
So he got a bigger contract, hegot an 8.5, and I think the
rangers needed to stay away fromthe eight million dollar range
and they did, and I think theybrought in a guy that's gonna
play, just play defense and takethe body and play smart and
just do what he do what he doeswe.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
We've signed Shusterkin for a $12 million
goalie moving forward.
He's turning 30.
He got Panera and Silva foranother year.
You went out and you traded alot of assets to bring in JT
Miller.
The thought that this team wastanking or the thought that this
team was going to half-ass.
It made no sense and when itbecame, obvious.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Was that something that was going around?
Because I didn't hear that.
You heard about tanking.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, but I'll finish my point Once Provorov is gone,
like Gavrikov was the.
If you didn't get Gavrikov,what were you doing?
Like who was going to be, whowas going to play 24 minutes a
night next to Foss Miller?
Well, that's the scary part.
So it became and, like you said, we've heard the rumors for a
(04:10):
month that Gavrikov is cominghere.
It's the worst kept secretaround the NHL.
So I was always confident thatGavrikov was coming.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That's the whole tampering aspect of everything.
Nobody announced any signingsuntil like 12.
An hour later they were alljoking about it.
I've been watching this thingsince 11 o'clock on tsn.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So, yeah, I know um, but once it became obvious that
he was going to be the guy, yeah, and then a guy that I wanted I
had circled, that I brought upon the show numerous times, was
christian devorek.
He's the first domino to go andhe gets five and a half.
I go.
If he gets five and a half, thengabrikov's gonna get nine yeah
(04:47):
yeah, and you hear, and youheard, um you know, pierre
lebrun and everybody on thepanel saying they expect
gabrikov to get more money thanum proverovka, which is eight
and a half yeah, so I hadalready resigned myself to
gabrikov's coming, and it'sprobably going to be nine
million by seven, by seven years.
I've already like accepted that, because if they don't get him,
(05:09):
then what's the move you had tobring in?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
someone like.
That move probably would havebeen to bring in maybe like a
nate schmidt or a defenseman ofthat.
And what are we doing then?
You, for one year you would be,you would have been piecing it
together, they would.
That's probably what would havehappened.
They were going to try to maybepiece it together for one year
and see where it happens, andwe'll get into it.
It looks like there might notbe any free agents come 2026.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
All trades and you got to retain your own guys.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
This makes it almost like and a lot of teams that's
what they were doing.
They were retaining their ownplayers.
That this makes it almost like.
And a lot of teams, that's whatthey were doing.
They were retaining their ownplayers.
That's what they were doing.
I mean, brock Besser went back.
You know, we saw what happenedin Florida.
A lot of these teams they'rekeeping their guys.
They're not, which is strange,because if you didn't win with
them, why are you bringing themback?
But I guess, when there's noother alternative, you have no
choice.
(06:00):
Yeah, you have no choice, yeah,yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So Gavrikov definitely took less to come
here.
I don't think that that's evenup for debate.
Right, because he would on theopen, on the true, true open
market, if he allowed like, ifhe just allowed himself to go to
the highest bidder.
Right, someone was going to getmatched with Provorovka at the
very least.
Right, if not go over, becausehe's literally all that stuff.
I literally all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I mean, ryan Lindgren got $4.5 million and someone
just posted would you ratherhave Ryan Lindgren at $4.5
million or Will Borgen at $4.1?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
It's not even close.
Yeah, it was like 94% Borgenwhen I clicked on it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
That's why, when people were crying about that
Borgen contract, I'm like relaxRight.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Relax.
The Cavs are going to relax.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You know I mean I, a bargain, relax, right.
You know I mean I I want to.
You know, we're all.
We're all, we're shitting onjury.
We're going to see what's goingto happen with this gandry
miller trade, which we didn'tget into yet, but it looks like
miller's going to carolina to me.
If miller's going to carolinaand I think steve corianos
mentioned it, he tweeted it outit has to be a pretty decent
package if you're trading thisguy in the division.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So, vince I just saw this now, but it's been sent
that out like 145 that, uh,carolina has two first round
picks next year, right, and thatthe miller trade will center
based around draft pickcompensation.
So they're dumping the salary,um, they're dumping the player
for for futures essentiallyright, but I'm saying they're
not making.
It's once again hockey trade.
No, okay, I thought that mightbe cocky.
(07:21):
Me might be coming back theother way.
How much is cut?
They can't afford four and ahalf, three more years.
I know they only have Onceagain.
I'm not making a hockey trick.
I thought that might be cocky.
Miami might be coming back theother way.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
They can't afford to Four and a half, three more
years.
I know, Sean, but they onlyhave 6.1 million and they still
got to sign Cooley and you gotto think they're going to bring
in at least one veteran.
I personally think Parsons isgoing to be their 13th forward,
but let's finish.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Let's finish on gabber cob.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's gonna be some bounce around why, wise man, you
are right I'm guilty of it, I'mthe worst at four years in.
You're getting it.
You're getting it.
It's awful.
Mason gerson resigned withBuffalo two years, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
There's a lot of guys .
I'm sitting here refreshing, soPuckpedia has a really good
tracker.
I didn't see that.
And they're getting it quickerthan anywhere else, are they?
Oh, puckpedia, puckpedia isgetting stuff on here before
it's on.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, they had the Romanov signing last night first
.
That was the first I'd sort,and all of a sudden guys were
putting it out.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's where I saw the Dvorak signing before it was
on TV or really anywhere else.
He's got a tracker right on themain page.
Here we go, thank you.
So, guys, if you see me turnaround, I have a whole second
set up.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Sammy Blade went to Montreal, huh.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, viva La.
France Just so everyone can see.
I got a whole second set upover here.
I got TSN and then I got thePuckpedia on that laptop.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, he has a whole thing.
I only got my phone and mylaptop.
So, you're a little bit moreset up than me.
I'm in the war room right now,but it's funny because when I
saw the number when LeBronLeBron was the first one I had,
I believe and he said sevenyears and $49 million and I'm
trying to do the math in my headI was like that's not really
(09:24):
that bad.
No, I said that's not $9million.
I knew that for sure.
I knew it wasn't $9 millionwhen I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
So percentage-wise it is.
Does it tell you on here?
Let me click on GabraCup.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
In five years, sean, that's going to look like In two
years.
That's going to look like intwo years.
That's going to look like agreat contract.
And you said it perfectly theAdam Fox contract looks great.
Now, if Evan Bouchard isgetting 10 and a half and Fox I
mean you want to say Fox ismaybe not as good defensively as
Bouchard and I don't watchenough of Edmonton to give an
honest assessment they'resimilar, they're full offensive.
(10:05):
I don't know how big isBruchard?
He's not that big right.
6'1".
Is he that big?
He's not small.
He's not small.
All right, I thought he wassmaller than that, but Fox is
5'11", obviously, and I thinkthat's generous because I a
picture of me, fox andBucinavich and I'm telling you
(10:26):
we Fox was between us, it's yeah, but he.
You look at Fox's numbers,they're very similar.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Right now he's at nine and a half million and
Bouchard's at 10 and a half, andthen you're going to see all
these defensemen are all goingto go past them now and pro
Rob's making a million dollarsless than Adam Fox and probably
Fox is a better defenseman.
We want to shit on him in a lotof ways.
No, no.
We want to shit on him in a lotof ways, but he's probably my
shitting on him is just thathe's not a, at least the way
he's made up.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And it's not fair, see is, and our fan base is so
guilty of it.
We compare everybody to BrianLeach Everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You know, every quarterback.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Every guy that's come into quarterback to power play
whether it's been Delzato, bradRichards, kotelik, Oli Okunin,
no matter who they brought in toquarterback, to power play oh,
this is going to be the best.
They haven't had a quarterbackon the power play since Brian
Leach, brian Leach, brian Leach,brian Leach, brian Leach.
It's not fair.
It's not fair.
You're talking about thegreatest rager of all time.
(11:31):
If you want to say he might beup there in the top five
greatest defensemen the Rangershave ever had.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Argument for another day.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, I'm just saying when you look at his number,
his salary cap number, now it'snot as bad.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And for you to say that that was impressive Cause
you're you're harder on Fox thananybody, Well, you're starting
to see cause I guess I'vemaintained I think he's a top 20
defenseman in the league maybetop 15, you know, depending on
the year.
But you're starting to see hissalary be commensurate with
where I think he fits and moreguys, and next year there'll be
(12:10):
another crop of defensemen thatare better than him.
That will pass him.
But we're talking two yearsfrom now as he really starts to.
He's not big, he's not going toage well.
Adam Fox isn't going to agewell.
So as we start to really creepinto the middle of this contract
(12:31):
, his cap percent.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
How old is he now?
He's got to be 27.
Is he that old at this point hemight be?
I mean, you know what it is.
These years have taken yearsoff my life, so these guys all
seem like they're youngerprobably it is.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
These years have taken years off my life, so
these guys will seem likethey're younger, probably
younger than they are.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
He's a year younger than lingren, right, so
lingren's 27, this will be hisage 27?
No, no, he's.
He is 27 now.
Oh, he's just 27.
Yeah, he hasn't.
He has a february.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
He has a february birthday I know that he turns 28
in february yeah, um.
So yeah, when he turns 30 andthe cap is 109 million.
The nine and a half, you knowthe nine and a half million
dollars is not going to be tooprohibitive.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
But you need him to produce.
Yes, in the playoffsspecifically, that's let me
listen again.
This is a story for another day.
But yeah, guys, the problemwith this team is you and I know
they're a talented regularseason team.
They've got the pieces for theregular season Panarin, kt Fox,
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they've got those guys.
The problem is is, can thoseguys, when the shifts get
tougher and they're beatingaround, can these guys absorb
playing against bigger teams andin the playoffs, where things
get tight and so far I meanPanarin's had his moments?
Fox has not produced in theplayoffs.
(13:54):
He's not been good.
He's not been good.
I don't even know what hisplayoffs number is, do you?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
want the breakdown on the Gabrikop deal.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I saw it, but tell everybody.
I know he's getting an $8million signing bonus right to
start.
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yes, $8 million signing bonus.
So his base salary for yearsone through five is $1 million a
year.
The rest of it is all signingbonuses $8 million, 6.6, 5.5,
and then five.
So he has a full no-move clauseyears one through five.
Year six he has a full no moveclause years one through five,
(14:29):
right.
Year six he has a 20 team notrade.
Year seven the final year hehas a 15 team, no trade.
Okay, so while it's aseven-year deal, we are truly
tied to him, probably for fiveyears.
For five which you know this,which is what it goes with the
timeline of jt miller'sadvantage ad box.
It goes with the timeline of JTMiller Zibanejad Fox.
It goes with the same timelineas when everybody else is pretty
much coming up, so they'll beable to move him at that point
(14:54):
if they needed to.
Not that I want to sit here andtalk about moving him, but
obviously they're planning thisaround the five-year run.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's always something that comes up in conversation.
Sean when it pertains to thesecontracts when these come out,
because the information is there, it's hard and it's hard not to
think about it because, yeah,how many guys last the length of
these contracts?
I mean, crider didn't last thelength of his right.
Brady shade didn't last thelength of his six-year deal.
Um, you know, rick nash didn'tlast his deal.
(15:22):
I know the range of the sign ofof Brad Richards.
I heard this is the last yearfor Brad Richards buyout.
Finally he's finally coming offthe books.
I mean, none of these guys lastthese contracts.
I know two guys that probablylast that contract Brandon Smith
, and that was only a four yeardeal, right and and Panarin, and
who knows, if they shit the bedhe might get traded at the
deadline, he might get traded atthe deadline.
So these guys don't last theircontracts.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I don't know, with what we're seeing with all these
, like there's going to be noone to bring in, unless, unless
they're that high.
Excuse me on Perot, for thefuture, that Panarin spot, you
know, in the top six wouldthat's what we're going to.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, that, let's get to that.
Now I mean Emily Ka.
That now I mean emily caplan,who she's, she's pretty good,
she's pretty on top of stuff.
She seems to think thatkaprizov and eichel are both
going to get done in in the inthe very near future.
Everyone's going to get donepeople aren't.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Every team has money under the cap now so they can
retain their well, here's thedifference, here's the other dip
.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
There's a difference.
Those two guys well, I don'tknow about kaprizov enough, but
eichel's in a great spot.
I mean, guys, vegas is one ofthe best franchises in hockey
and they don't get shit for it.
The Rangers got shit foreverything that went down and we
talked about it on our lastshow, about Drury and not being
in the boys' club and everythingelse.
(16:36):
But they have been cutthroatfrom day one and no one says a
word.
They just do shit.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
And it's impressive.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
They did it before they won a cup, though, sean.
To be fair, they did it beforethey won a cup, but they were
forced out a little bit about itand they won and it worked.
They weren't tied into theseno-movement clauses.
What are you shaking your headabout the Van Brieveste contract
?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, I'm like you just moved on from Tarasenko,
now you're bringing back Iserman.
Are you learning?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, I don't know, maybe they just want a bigger
body.
That's what I'm trying to thinkabout.
But the point of the matter isthat Vegas has been a standard,
a gold standard, as far as howto handle everything, and I
don't think Eichel's leavingthere as much as you know.
I mean, we missed our shot, itsucks.
(17:34):
I mean, if it was any otherteam than Buffalo, if it was
anyone else, he'd be a ranger.
Yes, and you can thank foreverybody, thank our billboard
friends, because they're thereason Eichel's not here.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
So it is what it is.
It's frustrating.
Old news In new news In newnews.
We have an update.
What's that?
Alex Bill Zeal returning to theMontreal Canadiens on a
two-year deal?
Oh no, On a one-year deal,two-way contract.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
No, don't tell me that I on a one-year deal,
two-way contract.
No, don't tell me that I can'tgo on.
I need a minute.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I need a minute to collect myself.
Feel bad for the sheet rock inRock's room over there.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, it's more of an emotional thing, emotional
feeling.
I had a very emotionalconnection to him Anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Good for him.
Good for him.
It's like everyone's NHLNetwork is announcing it, as
he's been traded to Carolina,but we don't have anything yet.
I mean, they're not going toannounce it until they've also
agreed to a contract.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's been clearly it's been part of it.
What the hell does this guy?
What the hell does I mean?
What?
Could he possibly Six, Six, Imean what Maybe?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
even more with what's going on.
Who would I compare him to?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
who would you compare him to?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
that just got a contract that you'd be like, oh
okay well, if you're carolinaand you're giving up, clearly,
clearly, at least a first roundpick right.
Um, again, that's another very,very, very valuable asset the
Rangers can use, you know, forthis.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Either way.
Yeah, like I said, either theyshould.
It's a valuable asset.
Yes, well, that's.
I don't know if you heardElliot Friedman talk about the
26 draft.
He seemed to think that teamsare going to be reluctant, like
good teams are going to bereluctant.
Bad teams excuse me, sorry,yeah Are going to be reluctant.
Bad teams excuse me, sorry,yeah are going to be reluctant
to give up that, that um 26 pick, because they don't want to be
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the guy.
I mean.
Look what they said, look whathappened to the island yes, I
saw that you don't want to bethe guy that gives up mckenna
and apparently he's.
He's the cat's meow and he'sgoing to go to pittsburgh.
We know that right.
You know he's going topittsburgh, sean, because we
need another guy to have thefucking 10 with when crosby's
ushering out the door.
We know he's going topittsburgh just to make our
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fucking lives miserable.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
You know that right yeah, so the two picks.
So carolina has their own pickand they have dallas's first
round pick okay, so the rangewill probably get the lower of
the two.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
whatever the lower of the two is and I'll probably be
top 10 protected and all thisother nonsense, lottery
protected and all this bullshit.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Then there's got to be more.
There's got to be more thanjust that.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I'm sure there's a prospect thrown in there.
I don't know enough about theirfarm system.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
They have no centers from what Steve said.
But how about a defenseman?
They're deep in wings.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Oh God, that's the last thing we need.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yep, they're deep on the wing.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Jeff Petrie is going to Florida.
Minimum contract plus bonusesthat's a nice signing for them.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, nate Schmidt going to Utah.
Yep Three and a half forSchmitty.
What else we got going on?
Yeah, it's been fast.
I see Petrie.
I see the Mason Gertson one now.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, mason Gertson.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So Sean Corrali and Michael Isamoth are off the
board.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Corrali went back to the Bruins, I saw Yep Gordon
Perry only got two milliondollars.
He got bonuses too.
He got bonuses.
It'll take them up to three anda half.
Oh, so that's what a lot ofthose older players are doing To
me.
To me.
I don't like doing that becauseI like to keep our cap flexible
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for next year.
Again, I don't know, we don'tknow who's going to be available
, but from what, all accounts,are this crop of free agents
that we thought was going to beso good?
It might not be as good as wethought so, but again, do they?
I mean, let's mention this Dave, you bring back Panarin.
Um, that's the only alternativeBased on what I'm seeing again.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I would.
I would need more information.
I would need to know whatGabriel Perrault is, and it's
not my call to make, so theyneed to know what gabriel perot.
You know what it is, it's, it's.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You know, you gotta, he's not the guy that he is
gotta be, you gotta be a, yougotta have the money, and just
like the perfect storm whenthese guys are available.
When eichel was available, itwas like the perfect storm.
Like you didn't you need tohave that, that, that moment
where it just everything fallsinto place.
And the rangers had it a fewtimes, it just didn't work out.
I mean, they had the money forBrad Richards it didn't work out
(22:18):
.
They had Rick Nash it didn'twork out.
You know, they had thosemoments where they've been able
to bring in that guy, but itjust hasn't worked out and we
still always seem to get thatguy.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, Gavrikov was rated as the second best UFA
this year.
He's a ranger, Well.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
UFA, because all the guys resigned last night.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
That was nuts.
The opening to TSN, to the FreeAsian Frenzy show, was
hilarious.
What did?
They say what's the guy's name?
James Duthie.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Is that the guy?
He's very funny.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
He's very funny.
They show him laying down onthe desk and he's got the
whiteboard behind him with allthe names.
It's like, oh yeah, all right,so that guy's off the list, but
we still got Marner, we stillgot this guy that he's going
down the whole list and you seein the background Mitch Marner
signed and you're like he getsmore exasperated and crosses
them off.
(23:10):
I like it was one by one, tothe point where the shirt's
unbuttoned.
Very funny, if I could find it.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I'll share it on my Twitter for you guys.
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It was very funny, as much as you knew.
It was like Mel Brooks type ofhumor.
Yeah, or it's a little cheesy,but it was.
You got to laugh at me for it.
Tsn just does such a good jobthey do.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Sportsnet does a good job, but we don't have access
to it, right?
We used to.
It used to be on the initialnetwork, right?
They used to carry the TSN feedand then, when Someone bought,
I forgot what happened with TSNand then switched over To
Sportsnet.
Because it's funny, because Iwent back and on my TiVo, I
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forgot what happened with TSNand changed and then switched
over to, to, to sports net.
Cause it's funny, cause I wentback and on my TiVo I know I
still use a TiVo which Ifrigging love Do- you really use
TiVo?
I love it.
No, I love my TiVo.
I don't know I can't, I can'thave any other DVR.
I just don't like it.
I went back and looked at Ihave trade deadline and free
agent frenzy stuff from 2017 andthe 2017 draft.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
That's actually amazing.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So what I want to do?
I went back and listened towhat Panarin was signed.
I'm going to try to for ournext show.
I'm going to figure out how todo it.
I'm going to get it off the TVand play the clip of what they
said about Panarin.
It's hilarious, who he's goingto play with their whole
prediction for everything.
Alex Tangay was one of the onesthat was on the panel at the
time and I'm going to play it.
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It's very funny.
It's just so funny when thesethings happen and all these
years later, you hear them backand listen to it and you're like
, oh, they're talking about, oh,capo Caco, he's going to be so
good and blah, blah, blah.
He's a big body.
He's going to play with Panarin.
I'm telling you.
It's great.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
If I can figure out a way to get it off the TV.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm going to do that.
I want to start doing stufflike that.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That'd be fun, chris, somos in the chat.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
So what do you guys think?
Anybody who's in the chat, feelfree to post your thoughts on
Gabrikov signing or someone youwanted to see signed that wasn't
.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I think the Rangers still have guys they haven't
signed because they like to sendout press releases a lot in
bulk.
When they sign, like thosefringe players Like Gabrikov
will probably have his own pressrelease, but I think if they do
sign a minor league kind ofperson, they usually like to
send those out in bulk.
So I think we will see that atthe end of the day.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, but you would have someone reporting this
stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Oh, maybe that's true .
I mean, none of these smallsignings are getting past
Puckpedia, that's for sure.
You know what I haven'trefreshed that one.
Purbix is gone.
I saw that, purbix, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
That's a big body defenseman.
Zach Jones hasn't signed yet,did he?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
No, amazing, amazing that the Zach Jones market is
just not out there.
Been trying to tell you guysfor two.
Listen, I said last offseasonthat he showed enough at the
very end of the season beforethat he earned the chance.
He got his chance.
He showed very much that he wasnot the guy.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
And you move on.
Well, did you see thatstatistic about the draft?
Yeah, no defenseman got draftedunder six foot.
So what does that?
What does that tell you guys?
I mean d'angelo just got a newdeal with the islanders.
I mean he's under six foot, butI mean it's, it's, you know
that type of defenseman?
I mean jones will get acontract from somewhere, but
it's going to be for the leagueminimum and it might be a
two-way deal.
It might be a two-way.
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You know, we haven't seen anyof those guys.
It might be a one-way deal.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It could be a one-way deal for $875, and you just
bury it in Hartford.
The kid gets paid, but itdoesn't count against the cap.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
It's just a one right right I did, I did think and
again, I get what everyone saysI thought they would give kaliev
a shot.
I thought they gave him aone-year deal.
Say listen, work on yourskating in this offseason,
you're gonna, you're gonna get.
And they, and maybe theyoffered it to him and he said no
, I'm not good, I want, I wantto.
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I it's.
I think jury's learning alittle bit.
I think what was it Brooks thatsaid that the Rangers not
extending the qualifying offerto Jones was they were doing him
a favor, essentially by?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
not extending it, just let him go.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
They did this to Lebor Hayek.
Now Lebor Hayek might be comingback to the league after two
years or so.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
What's this Russian kid that Kevin Weeks put out?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Who is that?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Brian Dublin and Cody Ceci, both going to LA.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Wow, I thought Dublin was a name that we needed to
look out for.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Well, how can you sign?
Yeah, Sean, I just don't thinkthey can sign anybody of
substance.
Until what's Dublin gettingThree and a half million?
Wow?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I thought he'd be like a $1.5 to $2 guy.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Cody Ceci just got a four-year $4.5 million deal.
I could see that Dumoulin justgot a three-year $4 million deal
.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Three years and $4 million and we got Gabrikop for
$7.
I don't want to hear a fuckingperson complain about this
contract.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
No, listen, I don't think it's a bad contract and
again, he probably took less.
He probably took less.
I don't know what LA wasoffering, but it is incredible
to think that we knew this for amonth, Like this whole thing.
So I was thinking about it.
(28:58):
I was like you know, you don'tneed to tamper.
I mean, the Rangers don't needto say where they can have ego
could call up and say, and theycould be friends for we know,
and that's an Aaron and say hey,listen, what do you think about
coming here?
That's the man, I would love it.
You know that'd be great, blah,blah, blah.
You know I'll talk to my agent,so on and so forth, and that'd
be great.
And then all of a sudden youknow he's coming here.
(29:19):
Meanwhile you never said a wordto him, you never spoke to him,
but you knew he wanted to come.
That's not tampering Right, allright.
Players can do whatever theywant.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
The guy I you put his name up.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I was rolling because there's a certain person out
there he knows who he is whoabsolutely loved me.
Not just you, not you, a personthat likes to get autographs
all the time.
That's who turned me on to him,honestly.
Oh, and Forsberg.
Anton Forsberg's going to LA.
So LA just signed Corey Perry,joel Armia, brian Dublin, cody
(30:00):
Cece and now Anton Forsberg.
Busy day for them Cup baby cup.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Nikita Gusev.
I wanted a trade for his draftrights from Tampa and then it
went to Vegas and I was likecome on, I think Vegas gave up a
second round pick for his draftrights, or something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
And didn't he go on his side of a New Jersey?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yes, but oh, he signed with Vegas first came to
like their camp.
Oh no, I'm sorry, that was theother.
That was the other Russian kid.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I went to Vegas first .
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, Another guy dominated the KHL Couldn't,
couldn't hack it here.
Who said dominated the the AHLCouldn't do shit here.
When I saw the picture of thatkid on on Twitter, I I thought
it was crafts up, Cause it's thesame team.
It was track, oh yeah.
Tractor Chili banks.
Yeah, they look alike, but he's5'8", 160 pounds, oh come on
(30:55):
Listen if he is.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Sean, honestly, if he doesn't cost you anything and
you could throw him in Hartford,I don't really give a shit.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I don't want him taking up a spot.
Look at how many kids they'regoing to have in Hartford this
year.
A lot, a lot of kids inHartford this year.
They need playing time.
Well, let's think about it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Who do you think we don't know what the third line
looks like, other than we knowthat.
We probably know that Parsonsis the third line center as of
right now.
As of right now, Parsons is thethird line center.
Who else?
I mean a Berard Hoffman, Perot,All three of them are making
the team.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
No, I think one of the three will.
I think they're going to windup with a third-line veteran
wing.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
What I thought they might do is find a cheap
third-line center, which mightnot be an option at this point,
and make Parsons in the 13thforward Third-line center.
And replace Brzezinski, becauseParsons can play center and
wing and you the 13th forwardThird line center, and have him
replace Brzezinski, becauseParsons can play center and wing
and you need that.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And I think that's why they kept him.
Third line centers are goingfor $4 million right now, so
they're not finding a third linecenter.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, Bukestad went for two and a half, but still, I
mean every dollar matters.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Bukestad still he's more of a four, yeah, more of a
four.
Bukestad still he's more of afour.
Yeah, I guess I think you couldget away with playing him at
three if you got some speedaround him.
He's really more of a fourthline center.
If you gave me the choice ofBukestad or Parson, and just
going into the season, I'd takeBukestad because I know the guy
can still score and winface-offs and win face-offs.
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But I and win face-offs and winface-offs.
But I think you're going to endup seeing Parson and I think
that they're waiting to seewhich wings.
Everyone's playing musicalchairs right now.
Who's left standing, who's leftwithout a dance partner?
And that's the guy that they'llsign for a million bucks.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Noah Laba's going to be down there next year.
The Czech kid which I can'tpronounce his last name, is it
Jacob Schlemer?
Yeah, schlemer, I like whatI've seen and heard about him.
Sokora, sokora, mcconnell,barker.
He's a center, but justforwards, right, no, I know, I'm
(33:17):
thinking about the wing, theguys that are on the way.
Well, no, no, a lot, it's noelaborate center.
Is he a center?
No, he's a center.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
All right.
So there a wing or center.
They got some young guys.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You've got to think that one of these guys, one of
those five guys we justmentioned, turns out to be
something right.
I hope.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So I have a lot of not faith.
I have a lot of hope in NoahLava.
He played really really well incollege, shows a lot of skill.
He's 6'2".
Morgan Barron physicallydominated in college it wasn't
(34:08):
necessarily because of skillNearly as much as Lava Lava.
He's got a lot of speed, a goodshot.
There's a chance that he couldbe something when he gets here.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Raddick Fox is going back to Dallas.
Three years, two million.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Brian Attard's brother's going to Colorado.
It's like all the same teamsare just signing, signing,
signing left and right.
Now Boston's adding two minorleague guys.
I mean Jury's made the bigsplash and I mean the framework
(34:43):
for the Miller trade's got toobviously already be done.
It's just a matter of millersigning the contract here.
Yeah, I, I don't know.
I mean it's uh all right.
So, no, no, inside scoop here.
But oh, but my deal, I forget,I don't care what your fucking
deal is.
Who is that hosting nonsense?
Uh, the suit, the hockey suit,the hockey suit.
(35:06):
No, thank you, this is what Iwould do.
I don't give a shit what youwould do.
So, friedman, still like crazy,how this?
You know, noise, noise, noise,nothing.
Yeah, like this can't be thathard to hammer out a fucking
(35:27):
deal.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We don't know what kind of contract he wants.
Maybe he's giving a hard timeJonathan.
Jonathan drew ends going to theIslanders.
Two years, 4 million.
Yes, it's not a bad deal.
Actually I'm surprised it's notthat low.
Jonathan drew as Jonathan drew,as a what's his name Said uh,
jonathan Drouin.
Jonathan Drouin as what's hisname?
Scotty Laughlin.
I like when he pronounces thoseFrench names and puts his
(35:50):
little enunciation at the end.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
We'll see what Drouin can do away from.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Nate McKinnon We've seen the Islanders find these
guys out of nowhere.
Brad Boys when did that getthem?
I'm just saying they.
They seem to find these guyslike on the scrap heap a lot of
times and drew and drew and hada good, decent season last year,
but I don't think he was thatgreat Right.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I see it.
No, he had a nice year.
What did he score?
What is it Like?
A point, 75 points a game.
Hold on, he always misses time.
He's always hurt.
You can hear me when I turnright.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, okay, freeman's saying he thinks the Rangers
game's trade is for the offersheet compensation.
Possibly a small ad.
That's what Mike Silvers justsaid.
So he had 37 points in 43 games.
Possibly a small add.
That's what Mike Mike Silva hasjust said.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
So he had 37 points in 43 games.
It's a good season.
You know when, when he was outin the playoffs, what do?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
you do, the Rangers would be getting a first, the
third and then maybe somethingelse for Miller.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
What a hope for more I mean you would have thought
for more.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I mean, you would have thought.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Especially with what you see, carolina always finds a
way.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
These guys always go down there and play well.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, shea Brady, shea played well.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Got a freaking seven.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Did you think he played well?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I didn't watch him enough, I would say no, but he
obviously played well enoughthat he got a huge contract.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Looked pretty terrible to me in two playoff
series.
Listen, Drury's not trading himin the division if he was
scared of him.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Well, no, I also think Drury's not trading him
into the division.
If that's the best package hecould get, he's getting the best
package he can get.
That's what I'm thinking.
I mean, maybe no one else isoffering a first.
Maybe people are offering afirst in 27.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe they want next year'sdraft, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
They made a point.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
They had the 12th overall pick?
Yes, and in most cases and inmost cases you're like wow, 12th
overall and we've seen decentplayers go at that number.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
There were decent players there for us at 12th
Right.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well, I'm just saying we've seen guys, for their
careers, excel at that number.
For them to give it up, you'vegot to think, for two reasons
One, they like the 26 draft andtwo, if they bottom out, they
can't be on the hook.
Trey can't be on the hook tolose a lottery pick.
So I mean, that's a big thing.
(38:36):
So in my opinion, I think thatthat's the reason why they
decided to move the 12th overallpick.
But yeah, 12th overall pick,but we're going to see.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
No, it was the right thing, it was the right thing to
do, but I'm saying the bookwon't be written on this trade
until we see what the rangers dowith that right.
So let's say, for instance,that they get, you know, they
get the dallas pick, essentially.
So I wonder if that'll bepredetermined, if there'll be
clauses.
Maybe there's no, maybe it'sunprotected and and that's why
we're accepting it- yeah, thatwould be interesting.
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I mean not that I thinkCarolina or Dallas is going to
not make the playoffs this year.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Who thought we wouldn't make the playoffs if it
wasn't the President's Trophy?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
This is true, you never know.
No, it's very true.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
You never, never know .
I mean it's incredible to thinkthat where this team was to
where they are now, and it comesdown to maybe guys getting old
quick.
I mean I don't know Kreider, Imean he went from being you know
and we'll see this year how heplays, but yeah, and also hurt
(39:41):
feelings, but they were not goodthis year Even when they
started off.
Great, those games.
You're like you wiped yourforehead and you were like wow,
how the fuck did they even winthis?
How did they win?
I mean, how did they win someof it?
Remember the Jonathan Quickgame against Detroit where he
was playing out of his mind andhe shut them out 4-0?
(40:02):
I think Jimmy Vesey scored.
They were up 1-0.
I think Jimmy Vesey scored.
They were up 1-0.
And I think Jimmy Vesey scoredin the third period to make it
2-0.
And all of a sudden they scoredlike two quick goals and it was
3-0.
And then that was it.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
We haven't seen the Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Vesey signing yet?
No, I hope he does sign.
I like him.
I'm a big Jimmy.
I'm weird players Like.
There's certain obscure guysLike I like Kaliev.
I saw glimpses of somethingthat could possibly be a good
player.
You know I like Vesey, you know, I just think you know these
(40:39):
guys.
There's just something therethat I like.
There's an intangible.
I remember Vesey.
That whole summer wasinteresting when he signed, when
that whole thing went down withhim.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, we got a lot of excitement.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
that offseason Was that the Shattenkirk offseason?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yes, I had that one too.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I had the trade deadline thing with Shattenkirk
also.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
It was the year before because VC was part of
the team that lost to Ottawa.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
That's right.
So they never made the playoffswith Shattenkirk, that's right.
Yeah, you sit back and youthink about it.
When they brought inShattenkirk, you're like they
were already on the way down atthat point.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Well, Shattenkirk was highly sought after.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah, and he's another one that took less money
to come here and play.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, what else DC didn't actually dress.
Dc didn't dress at all for theplayoffs for Colorado.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
That was probably a gift when they sent him to
Colorado.
That was a favor to him.
He didn't play there either.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Jack Stutnicker.
That was another name, draftname.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Did Calvin DeHaan sign yet?
Speaker 1 (41:59):
No, still out there.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
He's going to blame us.
Now.
We're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Still out there.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Watch him come back.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
That would be funny.
It would be funny if he wantedto come back, yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
I don't know about that, I don't.
I don't think he was as bad aspeople said he was.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
He got raped twice and I forget what game that was.
I remember I was texting youwhile watching it.
I'm like he just got a pocketpick.
Washington, is that what it was?
Yeah, two really bad turnoversthat just wound up in the back
of the net Like one-on-oneturnovers, not even just like a
bad pass.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I'm very curious because you know Drury's going
to have some kind of conferencecall when all's said and done,
what he's going to say aboutmoves.
I don't know if they'll bringup the whole Susie thing.
I doubt they will bring upspecific guys, but I'm very
(42:55):
curious to see if he's alwaysgoing to.
I know what the answers aregoing to be.
I don't even know why I bother.
I guess we have to talk aboutit.
But if we get something outthere that makes us better,
we're going to look intoeverything.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,so on and so forth.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
He's not going to say anything.
I like spots.
We're going to do scriptedquestions with scripted answers.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
One thing I will say about Jeff Gordon.
You can read him more.
When he said something Like youcould kind of tell if he was
giving you like a cookie-cutteranswer or if he was giving you
like a genuine yeah this is whenwas the last time you actually
(43:40):
heard Chris Drury speak?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
We've gotten Q&A, where we get the excerpts.
When was the last time youheard his voice?
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Right, so there's nothing to read into it.
When they hired Sullivan Forthe coaches, he talks yeah, we
never.
And again, this is a pet peeve.
I've complained about it,you've complained about it, sean
McCaff, mike, we all havecomplained about this.
He never, we never, get to hearthe man speak, never.
(44:11):
Why can't they put theconference call on video?
Let us hear it with questions.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
They don't want anything thrown back.
They control the narrativecompletely.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Why, though?
What's the reasoning behind it?
What are they afraid of?
I don't know.
See, that's the problem.
See, the other fan bases maybenot.
I'm not talking about Canada.
Canada, because Canada'shockey's king.
So they have to do this stuff.
They don't need.
The Rangers don't need to befan-friendly, because they have
(44:48):
a rabid fan base.
It doesn't matter.
It's like they don't care aboutthe season ticket holders.
They really don't, sean.
They don't care about us.
They don't.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Every fan base has enough to get there, other than
like Arizona back in the day.
But outside of that, everyone'sgot their season ticket holder
base that they don't need toreally appease to because they
know whatever's on the ice isreally what's going to drive.
You know, drive attention.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, nothing else, huh.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Nothing else Kind of slowed down, yep.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, it's kind of.
It was kind of fast and furiousfor a bit and it's kind of
really slowed down a little bit.
They haven't announced theGavrikov, right.
The Rangers haven't announcedit yet, right, which means
they're probably On their site.
On their site, I think GregMcKegg's coming back.
Greg McKagg.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
The Keggerator, one of the ugliest looking men the
world has ever seen.
Oh God, hee-haw.
I just want some fuckingclarity on what we're getting
back from Miller here.
Just someone fucking announceit already, I know.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
You know, the second we get off.
They're going to announce it,right 100%.
We'll have to wait to talkabout it.
I guess we'll come back.
Are you available Thursdaynight?
Speaker 1 (46:11):
No, I have a game.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Wednesday night it's tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Really it's tomorrow.
We can come on tomorrow ifthere's anything that we haven't
covered here.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, We'll wait another five minutes, we'll go
to 3 o''clock see if anythingcomes through, because we're
kind of uh, we're not on steamhere.
It's uh, it's still not enough.
I mean gavrikov and you know,whatever compensation they get
(46:42):
for miller, you know, especiallyif it's just draft compensation
, I'm not sure if it's enough tosay, okay, this team has turned
the corner of their Stanley cupcontender.
I think a lot of things need tobreak for them next year.
I think Panera still needs toput up 190, at least put up 90
points again.
I think Miller needs to put upclose to 90 points.
(47:03):
I think you need at least 70points.
That is a bin a points.
I think you need at least 70points.
That is a Benajed.
I think you need Lafreniere toput up at least 50 points and
you need Cooley to progress andyou need Fox.
I mean, you need the guys thatnone other than Panarin, and
Panarin had a down year forPanarin standards but he still
put up 80 points on this shitteam.
You need those everybody togive you at least what 20%, 30%,
(47:31):
more than what they gave youpoint-wise 15% more 20% is a lot
.
I told you I'm not good at math,yeah, but if a guy scores 50
points, 20% is what?
10 more points, 10 points, 20%guys scores 50 points.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
20% is what?
10 more points?
10 points, yeah, all right, 20%, we'll agree on 20.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
20%.
I mean, like you said.
I mean I just think there'smore to give.
I think Edstrom, I think he'sgoing to take a nice step I
honestly thought when he wentdown and he got hurt, I feel
like that kind of disjointed.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, because he was getting a lot of big goals.
When the rest of the lineup wasthrough, he was.
I mean, what?
Speaker 2 (48:05):
about that goal he scored against Vegas?
Yeah, what about the goal hescored with his back?
I mean he's spinning around, hesticks his stick.
I mean I'm telling you thatguy's going to be big for us.
That's a guy you win with inthe playoffs.
I saw, I mean, again, it was avery small set of ties, Sean,
(48:29):
but Noah Laba looked really gooddown there too.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Where.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
In Hartford yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
He played in Hartford .
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yes, he played on.
He was there on a tryout.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
I haven't, like I said, I haven't seen him play,
so yeah, he scored on his firstshift.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
I believe, down there , we need these guys, we need
these prospects, we need theseguys to, if nothing else, if
nothing else, we need these guysto be assets for us.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
I didn't realize he played 11 games.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
To be an asset for us , assets, we need assets.
You know, I mean we'vesquandered guy after guy.
I mean look at Miller, look atthe return, what's his name?
What's the shithead's name downin Florida, the coach Cooper,
he was glowing about KeandreMiller after that series.
I mean he did everything butgive him a reach Around in that
(49:29):
series, I mean, and he was goldback Then.
Now you can only get a Firstand a third round pick, which
was what we're hearing which wedon't know the compensation, but
you would have thought youcould get a prospect, a pick.
I mean three, four componentsFor this guy now.
Now you're giving him away fora late one.
(49:51):
For a late first-round pick.
Now, if they turn thefirst-round pick into a player
at the trade deadline orwhatever, then maybe it's worth
it, but again you're giving theguy away where again it's poor
asset management.
Now they got a one for NilsLundqvist, they got a two for
(50:11):
Leos Anderson, which turned outto be you know, they got Perot
and they got Cooley, essentiallybecause they traded their other
two first round picks.
No, I'm sorry, the Cooley wasin the Lafreniere draft.
I'd say the Lafreniere draftmight turn out to be a very good
draft for this team.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
They got some players in that draft.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Gorton was on his way to turning it around, and now
he's built an excellentorganization in Montreal.
They are so stacked, montreal,and then they make another trade
today.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Ronald Attard yeah, ronald Attard side.
Yeah, ronald Attard signed.
That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Just saw that.
Does he have that jerseyhanging in the basement?
He's probably dying for thisguy to play for the Rangers, oh
yeah, oh, he's probably dying.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I got a message from him.
I said you see, I saw yourbrother signed with Montreal.
Oh man, that's funny.
I just want to know this.
I mean, what time did theyannounce that Montreal
possibility?
I'm going to look that back upthat was at 1254.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
So that was two hours ago.
What Montreal possibility.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Oh, not Montreal.
Excuse me, the Miller Carolinathing, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
It's been two hours.
It was right after the Gabrikovsigning.
It was like Gabrikov signedMiller being traded Again.
This has obviously all beenworked out.
The trade itself has probablybeen worked out for a while.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
So it's just the Miller contract thing.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
That's right, it's all contingents on him staying,
you know, on him signing longterm, and maybe they're
hammering out different.
You know both maybe a four-yeardeal or a six-year deal, maybe
there's different options.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Maybe the Rangers are doing a sign-and-trade and he's
getting an eight-year deal.
Maybe I've seen a lot more ofthose, those sign-in trades.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
It depends on you know who it makes the most sense
to, did you?
Speaker 2 (52:13):
see that Darren Dreger put out that there's a
possibility that Bo and Biromight get an offer sheet.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah, I don't think it's happening.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Yeah, I don't think he's going to get traded.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
It was a Calgary right.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
He's a right-handed shot.
I mean D'Angelo resigned.
I mean they were talking aboutright-handed shots.
There was like none andD'Angelo wanted to go back to
the Islanders.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, For what like 1-7 or 1-7-5?
.
Yeah, good, I'm just happy he'sin the league.
I don't care where he goes, I'mwith you.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
All right All right pal.
Wrap it up.
I got to get back to work.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yep, if anything breaks, we'll get on somehow, or
?
Speaker 1 (52:56):
do something, See what happens.
Thanks for tuning in with usguys.
Thanks again for everybody.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Thank you Later Later .
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