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December 9, 2025 • 84 mins

Living next to the river of denial most will not accept the truth about aging and does it matter with the aliens coming?

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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
Whenever you are welcome to two men with a mic.
How's it going, brother? I'm doing OK.
I'm coming to you live from a home to suite something or other
in Bakersfield, CA hotel. Oh, what are you doing?
We came down to Bakersfield to see our niece perform in a

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ballet Nutcracker performance. Oh, that's nice.
Yes, I'm the good uncle. Very cool.
How is the performance? Great.
It was fantastic. Good.
My my ultimate goal is to go to a three hour long ballet.
And well, yeah, you've been tying in for that as long as

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I've known you. Yeah, I, I, I just, you know, my
life was not fulfilled until I sat through a three hour ballet.
Well, now you're fulfilled, dude.
What are you going to do? You're going to be bored.
I know, I don't know. There's no more quest left in
life. Oh man, I.
I'm I'm what happens? Now.

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I guess I just dropped goat Thelma and Louise and drive off
a Cliff. Oh OK, sounds good.
So so. Sorry, that's why.
I was delayed because we're at this hotel and, you know, got to
get coffee, got to get food. I went down to get coffee and

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they didn't have any. So then I had to go come back up
to the room and make it out of the, you know, little cup
dispenser thing. Oh yeah, rig type thing.
And so that took me a minute to figure out so but.
Hotel life, man. That's like when we were on the

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road with the band. Yeah, back in.
Remember all the hotel rooms we we trashed and stuff?
Yeah, Remember, we didn't wanna.We didn't.
I don't know what it was. Was it like Grad night or it was
one of those things, just traditional things you're
supposed to do and in high school, but none of us wanted to

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go do that. So we rented up that hotel room
right there by the college. Oh yeah.
And we partied extensively and the we never put the do not
disturb sign out and and like tothe extent like we took the the

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mirrored door off the closet andlaid it on the floor.
I don't remember, OK. Yeah, yeah, 'cause that's how we
were doing this. You know, things that are legal
now but weren't legal back then.I guess actually those
technically those things aren't legal.
No, I I think we just. Yeah.

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What mirror? Oh, we were just looking at
ourselves in the mirror. What would a would a bunch of
party animals do with a mirror laid horizontally on the floor,
but gaze upon themselves with joy?
Yeah. Anyway, the remember the

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housekeeping walked in and I think it was you that was like
half naked, like in your underwear or something and you
were just like passed out on thefloor.
I think when she opened the door, the door hit my head
because I was passed out on the floor in front of the door.

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And then she opened it and it hit my head and that's, that's
that's how it woke me up, although I wasn't really like
and it just started. Screaming and ran.
Yeah. And apparently there had been
what, either a murder or a suicide the day before we

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checked in at the hotel. Yeah.
And actually, I, you know what? I didn't stir because what
happened was I believe it was a suicide.
This was a hotel near the university and near our high
school, and we were graduating. So like, as Mitch said, we
decided to rent A room there andjust party like monsters.

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And yeah, this maid, well, therehad been a suicide there.
Like, somebody jumped off the roof of the hotel like the day
before, I think. And so then she came into our
room and she said when when she opened the door and it hit my
head and I was just laying there, she thought I was dead.
So she thought it was an it was another suicide.

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And so, yeah, she started screaming and rapping off.
No, it's not a suicide. I just graduated from high
school. It's kind of a suicide, but it's
a little different. Oh.
God, I forgot that one. When you started telling it, I

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was like, Oh yeah, I remember that now.
That one I'd lost, though. It was like buried in brain
cells somewhere, some little memory, you know?
That was funny. Yeah, that was hardcore.
And then didn't we wasn't there like something we had to go do

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at the school even though we graduated or something and we
were all you? Did you had to go pay them money
for books you lost? Oh, OK.
They wouldn't give you your highschool diploma.
They gave you a bill when you walked up.
You know how they roll or? Well, no, ours were in, I think

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ours were in little blue things that protect, you know, little
blue older things. Yeah.
But in yours there was a bill for a book.
That's right, I remember that. You were all pissed off.

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They were trying to nail me at the end when I was almost free.
Yeah. Oh, those were the days.
See, that's what you and Jen need to do is like, pull the
mirror off the wall, break out the stuff and like, then, yeah,
then that ballet will be great. It'll be all woo Hoo.
Like the only one howling for his niece is the ballet.

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I don't know if. My body could take it, man.
I I'm, I'm, I'm half broken already.
My, my, I I friggin I fell twiceyet last week I had a rough
week. Really, man?
Yeah, he's getting old. Sucks.
It does, yeah. I wonder about that, too.

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Like, I think we're we're too old for that stuff now, even if
we wanted to. That was like the stuff of
youth. How did you fall?
Let's see. So the first time I was, you
know, the, the carpenters had thrown a ramp up to, so we're
building on building a house, right?
The house is up off the ground because of the grading and, and

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all that. So there's no steps or anything.
So there's just like a, a construction ramp, but they
didn't secure the ramp in any way.
They just laid it up there. So the ramp was slowly sliding
off the edge. And I I was, I was leaving and I
just walked, started to walk down the ramp and it and it slid

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off the edge. So I basically like surfed on a
plank of wood for about a three foot ball.
Oh man. Yeah, and I only had like one
leg on the plank and of course it was my I have AI have a
plantar fasciitis. That's where the tendon under
your heel to your ball of your foot, that tendon right there.

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Yeah, is either inflamed or tornor whatever, I don't know
exactly. It's just basically when I walk
on that foot picture, you know, a bunch of jagged nails, you
know, on the floor and you just walk on the nails, right?

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And they all jabby. Yeah, that's what it feels like
every time I I walk. So of course that's the foot I
land on. Right.
Oh no. So of course that aggravates
the, the, the, you know, aggravates the situation even
more, you know, than it already was and, and all that.

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And so, I mean, you know, other than that, I was OK, but, you
know, my foot's messed up and then I kind of twisted my ankle
a little bit. But, you know, that's all right
now. But it just, my foot was in the
process of, I mean, it wasn't healed, it's not healed, but it
definitely was getting to the point where, you know, Jen got

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me some special shoes and some special inserts to go in the
special shoes, you know, so I'm like the the kid at school with
all the special shoes he's got to wear.
But you just need some headgear.Yeah.
Headgear. Special shoes.
There you go. Yeah.

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So, but yeah, I fell right on itall, you know, 200 and whatever
I weigh 6065 lbs on one heel, you know, from a three foot
basically, you know, just picture yourself like climbing
up on a, on like 3-3 courts of, of a brick wall.

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So standing up, you know, on topof three brick walls and then
jumping off of it and landing onone foot on your heel.
Oh, boy. So yeah, it, it was it was very
painful. I mean, I didn't, I, I scratched
my knee a little bit in my hand and stuff.

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But more than anything, it was just painful because I already
have that injury on that heel. Yeah.
And I was getting better. It was like slowly improving
and, and you know, there were days when you like on the
weekend when I rested and I wasn't up and I didn't walk too
much. It actually didn't hurt to walk

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at all, you know, if I just did a little bit.
But those days are gone now. Oh yeah.
I gotta wait, I gotta try and hopefully get better.
And then again, the end of the week, like, I don't know, maybe
it was Thursday, but I think it was Friday.
Yeah, it was Friday. Just, you know, when you get

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old, like you're Jen gets that mad at me all the time because I
shuffle a little bit. Yeah, sometimes, you know, I'm
not marching. Yeah.
I, I, I, I tend to shuffle. So at the end of the day, right?
This was at the end of the day and I've been walking around all
that, right? So I'm, I'm tired.

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I mean, this is the end of the day like like 5:00, right?
And I'm checking out this house because the owners are going to
move in next week and we got painters there and you know,
we're doing all the little Knickknacks and touch ups and stuff
like that. And you know, it's got like 4
steps. You walk up to the front door

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and you know, like the last stepwith my right foot, I didn't
pick it up far enough and my toecaught the step and I went
flying into the door and the door went flying open and shit
flying everywhere. You know, painters all like, oh,
Sir, are you OK? And that Hotel Me aid was

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standing there like, yeah. Man, that's what it felt like.
The guy's all getting off his ladder and walking over.
Are you OK? And I'm like, Oh yeah, I didn't
pick my foot up. I'm sorry.

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Man, yeah. So yeah, sucks getting older.
It certainly does. I hate to do this.
I was watching a stand up comedian yesterday.
I just once in a while I'll just, I don't even know who's
who or who's funny or whatever, but they'll, there's a lot of
stand up comedian concerts posted online.

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And so I was, yeah, looking for a laugh.
I forgot the guy's name, but it was like, I only stayed with it
for, like, 10 or 15 minutes, though, because not to dag on
what you just said, because it'sall true.
And yeah, for all the youth out there, like, we heard the same
thing, though. But enjoy your youth.
Don't waste it. And boy, I don't know.

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Mitch and I vote for Logan's runwhere like when you're 30, you
just like get sucked up into this thing and explode.
But you don't have to, you don'thave to be in your 50s with your
heel hurting on your job. Like, and you know, like the
story that you just told. It's true.
But so I'm watching this comedian, I guess he's had a

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good career and and he was in a really nice theater and it was
going to be his last show because he was like 65 years old
and he was, he was pretty funny.And, and he, I mean, he was
doing some interesting things now that I understand that like
everything is like social engineering.
So he did some kind of courageous things considering

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like the the current narratives in the country.
He was sort of brave about it, but he started like talking
about old age and and complaining about old age.
And it was like all this stuff. And frankly, you and I could
relate to it. And and and then he was also
talking about how like he goes, yeah.

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You know, when you're young, I forgot, like, you know, you like
the movies and and maybe you like sports and stuff.
And then, you know, when you're middle-aged, then you're,
you're, you talk about like politics and and other stuff.
And then he's like, but when, when you're when you're old,
then all you talk about are yourhealth problems.

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Yeah. And he said that.
He said, like, me and my friends, you know, we thinking
together and party basically. And now we all sit around
talking about like, oh, I just had another colonoscopy, you
know, and I remember that too. And I, I remember my grandma
pointing that out too, Like it. And and she, she was guilty
herself of, you know, complaining about health stuff.

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But she, she said that was one of the reasons it wasn't fun to
hang around with, like, old people because she said all
they're doing is telling their doctor stories and their surgery
stories and their prescription stories.
And. Yeah, so I was like, you know
what? Cuz I'm very sensitive to the
idea that we're, we might be creating reality with our

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thoughts. And I was like, you know what?
I don't wanna hear all this information about like illness
and age cuz it's gonna like settle in my mind and then I'll
be thinking about it and like, create that reality, you know,
So I actually turned it off because I didn't want to hear
him talking about like health problems because it was like, I,
I got enough, I got enough trouble trying to act like I

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don't have those and, you know, retain my inner youthful self.
So, so you, he was actually pretty funny and, and he was a
pro man. He he'd been doing it so long,
you know? Sorry not sorry guys for this
interruption, but guess what? Today is Tuesday rants with

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amber welcome back to the studioeveryone wow thank you thank
you. I'm happy to be here too What
how I knew you guys were here for me hi everyone and happy
Tuesday. I hope you guys are all having a
fabulous day and a beautiful week so far.

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I I am officially in my last week of classes as my first
semester as a master's student at NYU, which is just absolutely
crazy. I feel like the time definitely
flew by. If you guys were here months
back, you guys would have heard the episode where I talked about

(16:43):
moving here and you know, my parents came down and my sister
and they all helped me move. And I feel like that was just
yesterday. So it's crazy that you know,
it's already winter break comingup.
So we of course are just finishing up some papers and
projects. It's so different and weird from

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my undergrad experience because I feel like right about now I
would be telling you guys how I'm hyperventilating or having
anxiety attacks because I got a hardcore study and really lock
in. But now I'm writing essays,
which can definitely still be a process and hard, but I feel
like it's very different than just like memorizing and

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studying concepts and things like that.
So very different. And I'm also super excited
because one of my friends is coming up in a couple days to
spend some of my last few days here with me.
So we are going to be exploring all of the Christmas stuff here
in New York City. So I can't wait to tell you guys
all about that. And then I will be heading

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getting home on the 18th and I am so excited.
I'm going to be home for almost a month and it's just going to
be so nice to get to spend time with everyone and, you know, do
holiday stuff and just see family and, you know, really be
home. Because last time I was home was
September, which I know doesn't seem like that long ago.

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But technically, if you think about it, most of my family
because my sister was here on mybirthday, but the last time my
family saw me, I was 21 years old.
So now they're gonna see me looking a whole year older,
which is like kind of crazy but also funny.
But I'm just so excited. So I'm flying out on Thursday of

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next week, so it's fast approaching and I'm just so
excited. I also don't think I got to tell
you guys about my Thanksgiving here in New York City.
It was so much fun. I finally got to see the Macy's
Thanksgiving Day Parade live, which was just a dream come
true. And I went with one of my
friends from my classes and it was so great.

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We ended up getting there about 8:00 and the parade starts at
8:30, but the parade runs like down a few blocks like they have
to walk quite a bit. And so we were more in the
beginning section of the parade.So the parade also finishes a
lot faster if you are up at the beginning.

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And we, it kind of starts near the Museum of Natural History on
like 70 2nd St. by Central Park.And then they walk all the way
down to 34th St., which is wherethe Macy's is.
And so my friend and I were kindof near the bottom of Central
Park watching and we got really lucky with a really good view.

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We had to kind of like hike a little bit through Central Park
and one of the little trails andlike go up some stairs and kind
of venture off the designated path and like climb over a
little short fence. Not like climb we just stepped
over, but to get to where we were because they also block off
a lot of roads. Roads during the parade.

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So like your typical way to get to things wouldn't be.
So that's what we had to do. But I highly recommend if you
ever go to see the parade, to get off at the subway station,
63rd St. and Lexington Ave. and then from there walk towards
Central Park. It's going to be a much better,
less crowded route of seeing theparade than any of the other

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subway stations. And so it was just a really
great blast. And the only thing I will say is
because you are watching like the parade and you're not
necessarily by Macy's because Macy's is super packed, you
don't get to see all of the liveperformances like you would if
you were on TV. So that's one downside.

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I guess I would say you mainly get to like, see the balloons,
which is still really cool. But yeah, I'm just very excited.
I got to cross that off my bucket list.
And then, of course, we kind of walked around Central Park for a
bit and then we had lunch reservations at a place called
Sarah Beth's. They were doing a Thanksgiving
meal. And Oh my gosh, the stuffing I

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had was to die for. And I'm usually not a stuffing
girl, but it was amazing. It was so good.
And all of the food was good. The pie was amazing.
So it was just overall really good day.
And then I ended up coming back to my apartment and then I was
like, you know what, I want to go see a movie so I went to go
see Zootopia, which was also super good.

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I highly recommend going to see it.
I really hardcore judge sequel movies and this one was
absolutely insane. They just did a very good job
with, you know, the cinematography and the music and
the storyline like it. Everything flowed and made so

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much sense. The character development was
insane and I just really loved it.
They stayed true to the characters.
There is not like a romantic relationship that produces
between the two main characters.It's they keep it as friends,
which I really appreciated. But yeah, it was just overall
really great. And then of course, I ended the

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night talking with my family andwe played like some games and
things like that through video. But yeah, it was just a great,
great time. I did end up getting sick, I
think because of the cold. It's been absolutely freezing
here. My California body is not used
to it, but it's been in like the20s and 30s.

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And so I think just all of that and then also working at the the
elementary school that I work at, I think all the germs and
stuff, I kind of got like a little cold for a bit.
But I'm finally starting to recover from that.
Thank goodness, because I don't want to take anything back to my
family. But yeah.
So there's an exciting few weeksahead, but I hope you guys have

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a great rest of your week and I'll talk to you next time.
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Thanks guys. Bye.
So you pitched a tent on the river?

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The river? The denial.
Yeah, it's, well, you know what I am, I am seriously wondering
about that. I want to, I, I, I just, I don't
want to get into all the stuff because I just, I'm over it.
And and I, I don't think it really helps to like fall into
like all of the major stuff going on.

(24:07):
But I'll, I'll tell you an interesting thing though, like
my brother actually got really interested in what, what is now
called spiritual physics like way before I did.
And, and then for me, like about, I was always interested
in those things, but I take a really serious plunge into

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studying spiritual physics, likestarting about 15 years ago or
more, I was always interested inthat stuff, but I really took a
plunge starting about 15 years ago.
And, and so all this terrible stuff has been done to the
country and the world and, and like everything's in crisis,

(24:51):
especially in the West and especially in America.
And I've been following, you know, the news and, and going
after the truth as best I can. And, and frankly, you know, it's
been a battle for everybody because you know, people, it's,
it's just a battle of information.

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And, and especially if you're, if you went as deep as I did and
you know that truth about what'sgoing on, it's been an absolute
battle to because like you would, you would think like, Oh
my God, the red coats are coming.
Hey, everybody, the red coats are coming.
And then everybody goes, oh, it's the red coats.
Let's stop the red coats. And that's not what happened.

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You know, the what happened was some people got the truth, some
people got half truth. Some people are in denial.
Some people are terrified. Maybe it's mind control, maybe
they're in on it. Some people are paid protesters.
Some people are, you know, like I don't whatever.
It was like when the threat was identified in this country and,

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and I tried to tell people aboutit, you know, that no one wanted
to hear it. It was like, yeah, you pitched a
tent next to the river of denial.
And so, but my brother doesn't like to talk about it.
And mostly now he, he's kind of like, he doesn't discuss it, but

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he spent a long, a long enough time studying like meditation
and yoga and spiritual physics and magic and all that stuff
that he knows everything that I know now and that I'm always
talking about. And you know, my, my ex-wife and
we, we're partners, you know, like we, we're, we're being

(26:41):
really good about taking care ofour son together.
But she's my ex-wife. And there are some of the things
there that kind of blew that apart were cultural differences
and that that's because, well, I, I love, you know, I'm, I

(27:02):
love, actually, I like, I love alot of religions.
I don't really feel like I'm in anyone religion.
I feel like I, I believe in likeKriya yoga and, and meditation.
And it doesn't matter what your religion is.
You can just do Kriya yoga and meditation on top of that if you
want to or you don't have to. But that's, that's kind of all

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I, I really believe in. But but there's this idea that
so, so my Xbox comes from a Theravada Buddhist country.
And so she knows they're raised knowing everything that I
learned over the last 15 years about spiritual physics.
And my brother, like I said, he,he studied spiritual physics for

(27:46):
a long time. And there isn't like we've
talked about this on the show, it turns out it's probably true.
I, I've studied, you know, spiritual physics.
I, I, I, I studied a little bit of magic and stuff.
And, and it's probably true thatthere's this idea that if, if
there's something that you know spiritually or something that's

(28:09):
working for you spiritually, if you tell people about it, it
oftentimes it stops working. So I think in the case of my
brother, like it might be that he's actually, you know, using a
lot of spiritual, physical tactics and things like that and
maybe even having experiences and stuff, but he doesn't want

(28:30):
to talk about it because that that would ruin like the the
thing he's got going. And I have read that in in a
couple of books. I was just looking at a, a, a
book on magic and they were like, yeah, you can't talk about
spiritual experiences. And then even in self
realization fellowship, which teaches Kriya yoga and isn't

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relig a religion? And all religions are welcome to
go there if you would like to beKriya Yoga.
They too say, like, if you've got, if some, if you're having
some kind of spiritual success or whatever, then it's not good
to tell everybody about it. So, so I, I'm there and I'm
like, Oh my God, I have the truth of what's going on in the

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world and it's really bad. But if we all rally against it
or whatever, then we can save our, our country.
We can, we can save our world. And no course, nobody wants to
hear that. And they just want to quit CNN,
which is like the most discredited news station of all
stuff. Like, you know, I'm not going to

(29:32):
fall into that. But my brother, you know, and,
and when you hear like the world's being destroyed and
who's responsible for it, you want to turn to your family and
your Big Brother and say, hey, man, they're doing this to the
country. We, you know, we got to rally
and do something about this. And of course, my brother was
completely not receptive to anything that I told him about

(29:57):
the truth. And over the years, because it's
been years now, everything I told him turned out to be true.
And he begrudgingly has admittedthat like almost everything that
I told him turned out to be true.
But even still now he doesn't want to talk about it and he
doesn't want to grasp onto it. And it's the same thing with my

(30:19):
ex-wife. And if I'm like, Oh my God,
here's what the here's what's really happening.
She doesn't want to hear it. And, and from both of them and
others, I get accused of being negative.
And I'm like, I am not being negative.
I am reporting the facts as I understand them.
And so I don't even want this stuff to be true, but it, it is

(30:43):
true. And, and if we don't do
something about it, then we're doomed.
And so so far, yeah, nobody in in my immediate circle or even
beyond that will even listen to the truth.
Like there it's, I don't know, there's a lot of reasons why
that could be happening, but theone that I want to stick to you
as a concept and something that I'm worried about is like, so

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for Theravada Buddhist ex-wife, there's an idea in meditation in
Buddhism that you try to stay inthe present moment and you, you,
you don't think of the past and you don't think of the future
And you just stay in that, in that, in that present moment,
trying to be as relaxed and quiet as possible and, and go

(31:31):
inward and, and feel the source of you and everything else.
And that that source of you is amore tricky field of infinite
potential, but that but feeling the source is, is what will
bring you peace and enlightenment.
And then you'll be super rating it, radiating that, and it'll
help everyone else around you too.

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So speculating, assuming, worrying, wondering about stuff
that's going on. That's like in Buddhism, in
meditation, that's like a no, no, you know, you're trying to
clear your head. You're you're trying to not have
any thoughts. And if thoughts still appear,
then you're supposed to just observe them with compassion and

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then wait for them to dissolve. And so, so being a Buddhist, you
don't want to think about the future, like, Oh my God, it
really is them. And probably those guys are the
ones that are responsible for itand, and what are we going to do
about it? Because as the Buddhist, she
knows that having those thoughtsactually helped create that

(32:38):
reality. And so if you heard some bad
news, dwelling on the bad news, thinking about the bad news,
sharing the bad news with everybody is helping to create
that reality, which is is something, yeah, coming from a
Buddhist country that my ex-wifeunderstands.
And my brother too, has cautioned me many times because

(33:02):
I'm like, hey, man, you're in denial.
And he's like, and you're focused on the worst things in
the world and your focus, I'm paraphrasing, but basically he
said your focus on these negative facts is actually
helping to make it happen. Whereas like I, your brother,

(33:23):
you know, today I'm going to go to Disneyland.
You. Know.
Well, yeah, it's I, I, I think there's a balance of that,
right? I mean, you know, you, you, you
can't deny the car ran out of gas, right?
Yeah. So, but on the other hand, you
can be grateful, you know, the car didn't blow up.

(33:46):
We, we've talked about this many, many times, especially you
go back to some of our episodes,you know, at the beginning,
maybe starting episode 10 or 20,somewhere in that range.
But I mean, episode 10 or 20 of season 1, not, not of this

(34:06):
season, but you know, we, we, we've talked about that many
times because of the dark hole you came from with everything
that happened and you know it, it is, it is true.
I mean, if you if you focus on only negative stuff and you

(34:27):
dwell and you live in that, thenthen you're only going to feel
dark and depression. You're only going to feel
sadness. And and while I don't, I don't
think, you know, like I'll just,I'll use use me, right?
I'm not in a denial about what Jen's gone through in the last

(34:49):
year, right? I'm not, I'm not in that denial,
but I'm more focused on the fun things that we do or the funny
things we talk about or, or those things.
I would rather relive or, or, ordo or, or laugh about that stuff

(35:11):
than to rehash, you know, Oh my God, you've had three brain
surgeries. Can you believe it?
Oh my God, you know, and, and just keep talking about the
three brain surgeries. You see what I mean?
So I think that that if you focus your, your energy, it's
actually, it's been proven with plants.
Let's let's use the plant as an example.

(35:33):
They've done tests and I'm sure you can find them online where
they've taken plants and they'velike had, you know, 2 basically
identical plants and 11 plant. All they did was scream and yell
at it and you know, that kind ofstuff.
And then the other one, they, they just talked to like normal.

(35:54):
And the one they talked to like normal grew and flourished.
And the one that they didn't, the one they were screaming and
yelling at didn't, you know, didn't grow like the other one.
And yeah, and I, I, I, I think that's kind of what you're
saying. And, and I, I, I think it is
true. And I think people get caught
into cycles where where they're,they're basically just dwelling,

(36:20):
like you said. And and while it's it, it
doesn't have to be a denial. I remember I, I used to tell you
there was one, one point when you were, you know, getting
sucked down the algorithm dark hole of, of all the things that
were going on. And, and I, I, I, I said, OK,
well, you know, for every negative thing you do, you need

(36:41):
to go watch something positive. I used to talk to you about
that, you know, and, and, and, and suggest that, you know,
because if you, if you get sucked into that, then then that
becomes everything you see and you can't, you, you can't get
past it. Edgar used to always talk about
living in the here and now. You know, he was, he was very

(37:04):
much into meditation and spirituality like that.
And and he always believed in the here and now.
And and so does Mom to an extent, right?
Although you, you and I both know Mom will talk about
anything and everything. For a couple of days, yeah.

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But you know, yeah. Here's now the The Power of now
the Eckhart Tolstoy, now famous book.
Same thing. Meditation.
Stay in the present moment, the power of now.
It's the same thing as the Christian expression.
Be still, and know that I am, because by being still in a
meditation, in the present moment, looking inward, feeling

(37:46):
the source, you'll feel God. Yeah, yeah.
It's, it's a, it's a state of mind in a choice of perspective.
You know, I can be freaked out about Gen. three brain surgeries
or I can be grateful that she had three, three successful
brain surgeries. Yeah, right. 2, two different

(38:11):
sides of the same coin. You know, we should be grateful
and excited that, you know, she,she, she got through with, with
minimal. She pulled up some photos of, of
people that had the same surgerythat she did.
And we must have just gotten a friggin awesome doctor because

(38:32):
her, her incision's like maybe an inch, inch and a half long.
Yeah. And you can barely.
I mean, you can see the device. Obviously that what I'm talking
about. I'm just talking about the
incision to put. And then they put an incision
behind her ear. And then they had to do a couple
in her belly to, to run the tubeand stuff.
But but my point is she pulled up online, some other, other

(38:57):
people put photos of their stuffand God, it, it, it looks like
somebody took their head and smashed it to a plate glass
window. I mean, their scars are like 10
inches long and, and just all just, Oh my God, it looked all
stapled together and, and all this stuff like that.

(39:19):
And, you know, talk about being grateful that, you know, that's
what we were afraid was going tohappen.
But when she got out, I was all like, well, did they even do
anything or did they, like, stopthe surgery because, you know,
you can barely tell there was anything done.
That's great. Yeah.
You're likely I. Was going to ask how she's

(39:41):
doing. How is she She's.
I mean, definitely not, you know, not 100% by any any means,
but you know, this was a big trip.
This is the first time I think last weekend, I don't remember
what we did. Oh well, no, it's Thanksgiving.

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Yeah, you guys went out for Thanksgiving.
Yeah, Thanksgiving, we went out.So that was the first time she
had been out except for a doctor's appointment.
So and that was, that was physically a lot, probably a
little bit too much for her, butbut she made it.
And now, you know, this, this little adventure, you know,

(40:25):
she's, she's doing OK. She's not feeling super well,
but you know, she's, she's doingOK.
Luckily most of it's driving so she can rest in the car, you
know, and speak back a little bit and stuff.
But yeah, I mean, she's she's slowly recovering.

(40:48):
It's, it's probably going to take her, you know, a couple
more months. Yeah.
To recover. We have a doctor's appointment
this week coming up and it'll bethe first time we've seen the
surgeon since the surgery. So we'll get some more data
because no one, no one would tell us like, you know, oh,

(41:10):
what's the, you know, like when you break the leg, they're like,
Oh yeah, you should be fine in six to eight weeks.
You know, they won't they, they wouldn't tell us any of that
stuff. And I guess it's probably
because they're messing around with the brain and they don't
really know. And everybody's different, you
know? Yeah.
So slowly but surely, yeah. Yeah.

(41:32):
At least he's improving regularly.
Yeah, yeah. I, you know, on the subject of
creating reality with our thoughts like I, I, so I, I was
just trying to send like I try to send a stupid joke to you and
Jen every day. Just a stupid joke.
Just. Maybe hopefully it'll make you
laugh or give you a break for a second.
And so I, I started sending Jen like all these brains like brain

(41:56):
jokes, you know, like, and I surprisingly like just Googling
in an image search, like brain or like funny brain or like
brain sleeping or brain skydiving or, or brain in space
or like there are all these funny brain cartoons.
And so I kept sending Jen like silly brain cartoons telling

(42:19):
her, you know, get, get better soon.
But yeah, I actually a few days ago, I started thinking, you
know what? And, and especially even though,
you know, it's encouraging, but it I know it must be frustrating
too, to have kind of a slow recovery.
And I thought, you know what? I wonder if she doesn't want to
get a joke about her brain everyday.

(42:40):
You know, like, maybe maybe she doesn't want to think about her
brain anymore. You know, maybe every time I
send her like a brain joke, it'smaking her worry or, or, you
know, be upset that she's not totally well yet or anything.
So I thought you better switch and like think of something
other, some other funny thing tosend her 'cause you're just sort

(43:00):
of rubbing it in. I thought maybe, you know, just
sending all those brains, my brother, like the so he, if I
hear like another shocking revelation about like what's
happening in the West and in ourcountry with our government.
Like I said, mostly, you know, my brother and everyone else,
they don't even want to hear it.They, they, they won't, they

(43:23):
don't want to hear it. And so, but in a rare moment the
other day, like in a text, I, I,I sent like a, Oh my God, it's
this. And and they're doing this and,
and like, that's why this is happening.
And I, I gave him like a, a big update on stuff.
And, and he goes, OK, you know, kind of thanks for sharing.

(43:45):
And he goes, but if, if this turns out to be the apocalypse,
I blame you. And because that's all the
lectures. Yeah, because all the lectures
he's been giving me is like, don't focus on this.
You're you're actually helping the bad guys by focusing on

(44:05):
this. You're actually making it
manifest by focusing on this. And whereas his position is
like, I'm going to be happy and distract myself with other
things and not give the terribleplot any power of from my
thoughts and my focus, you know?Yeah, over you, you know, I
mean, that's the thing. Because it will, you know, it,

(44:26):
it will, it will direct how you live your life.
I mean, you know, you, you see those, those people who get, you
know, wrapped up in it and they end up, you know, digging a hole
in the ground and going out in the middle of nowhere and then
living in that hole in the ground.
And in the meantime, the world'spassing them by and they're, and

(44:49):
they're, they're, they're missing out on stuff.
They're missing out on their fan.
You know, there's, there's been stories of fathers especially
like, you know, going out, doingthat, just walking away from
their families. Yeah.
And it's like you're, you're missing your children growing
up. You're, you're missing what life

(45:10):
is supposed to be about. And I, I, I think some of that
is, is, is, is what happens is we forget what life is supposed
to be about, you know, and, and I don't know, to, to me, life is
about family as, as best we can.I mean, obviously you can't be

(45:30):
everywhere and do everything. You know, I don't, I don't get
to see Julia as much and I don'tget to see Amber as much.
And I don't, you know, get to see Chad as much because they
all, you know, Amber's in New York, you know, Julia lives down
in, down in LA, you know, area, you know, and, and all that.

(45:54):
And you know, Ashley lives, I mean, Chad, Chad lives over in
Fresno, right? So it's, it's not like they're
around the corner or anything. But still, you know, if you bury
your head in the sand, you're missing everything.
You know, you're, you're missingthe, the life with your spouse.

(46:17):
You know, you're missing the life with your kid.
You're you're missing the life with your friends and and for
what? I mean, what's the point of of
existence if you have nothing toexist for?
Yeah, yeah, I, I, I agree. Even like some of the spiritual

(46:41):
teachers that I follow, they sayyou're, you're helping the bad
guys and and it's fear porn. And so to focus on it not only
helps it, but it, it, it, it ruins you.
Like one of the first things in spirituality that I mean, as I
understand them, though, is like, you have to attempt to

(47:02):
eliminate fear. And of course, taking a bath and
all this stuff. And instead of going to the park
with your kid is, is a big mistake.
Of course, I've been going to the park with my, my kid the
whole time And, and we know whathappens there, though.
So that's. That's I think you were going to
say that. I was going to say and that's
what makes me listen to the lookfor the truth and the real news

(47:25):
and stuff, but but. If you if you go to the
mountains with your son and walkup a Creek, it's a different, a
different experience, right? Well, not if not if you
encounter anybody else right at war, but but where was?
I know. Speaking of your son, where was

(47:46):
that snow at? Where was that?
Oh, it was kind of a fun thing, but there's, you know, we have a
lot of parks in the area and oneof the parks advertised, it's
like one of the few times when Isort of feel good about the
government, like at least stuff like that is happening because I
think it was like a, like a community thing.

(48:06):
And, and they just picked the park and they, they brought a,
a. So we, I live in the desert
where it's hot all the time. And, and what they did in this
park was they brought a snow maker out there and they just
made a big pile of snow and thenlittle kids, it was just free.
You could just go to this park and play in the snow from the

(48:27):
snow maker for a few hours. So, yeah, my ex-wife and I took
our son to go play in the snow yesterday in the park.
But I'm like, you know, I, I hear about like $300 million
being spent on a ballroom and, and, and that's pretty sad
because you know, where the $300million came from?

(48:50):
It came from you and I and the taxpayers.
But what? But something like this, like,
hey, the government put some snow in the park for the kids.
Like, OK, this is all right, youknow?
Yeah, but that would cost $500. Well, you know, it's like, OK,
I, I approve of my taxpayer money being spent on like an

(49:11):
organization that would put snowin the park for kids to play in.
You know, like, that's fine. You want to use my taxpayer
money for that, that's great. But so yeah, no, it was a cool
thing and and my son had a good time.
Yeah, he looked like he he was enjoying it.
He was, he was, yeah, he was allinto it.

(49:32):
And yeah, we got it's, it was good.
It was a good thing. We have snow up in the mountains
around us. And so really actual snow is
only, you know, like 40 minutes away.
But but yeah, but where where I am, as you know, I'm in, it's
hot, I'm in the desert. And so snow is like a miracle.

(49:53):
So yeah, that was fun. That was fun.
That's. Cool.
But see, there's a, there's an example of a positive thing,
right? That that you can spend time
talking about and then really walk away from that conversation
with a positive joy in your heart.
Yeah. Or you could dwell on the
darkness that's out there and walk away with dread in your

(50:16):
heart, you know? Yeah.
It's and it's like, how do you want to live, right?
How do you? Why, why, why would you not want
to? You don't have to be in denial,
but you know, it's, it's, it is definitely a delicate balance
and you know, your focus, you know, needs to be a positive

(50:39):
stuff. It, it, it needs to be on the,
on the good thing that that thatmemory of your son playing in
the snow, you know. Yeah.
It was just like laying down. I thought I was like, man, isn't
he cold? That was that was the first
thing that I thought of. Isn't that cold it?
Was like it was funny. I had A and, and I mean, I

(51:00):
always make little hum movies ofmy son's adventures.
And so I've made like, I think almost 800 home movies, like
varying from like 30 seconds up to like maybe 20 minutes of just
all the different events that that he's been to.
So I was editing this one and there's actually, it was a huge

(51:22):
shot, but there's because my sonlaid down in the snow and he was
just kind of like feeling it andsensing it all like for the
first time. And I, I just, that was the last
shot of the video, kind of was, was my son just laying in the
snow? That's why Mitch is like, wasn't
he cold? And he was, his clothes got wet.
But he, I don't know if he just wanted to feel it.

(51:43):
Probably feeling the source in it, which is what you're doing.
Yeah. Absorbing, absorbing like the,
the source directly the source of the snow, the source of human
beings, the source of everything.
But I did have a shot where likehe, he got up and he was all wet
and then like he stood up, but his pants were kind of drooping

(52:05):
'cause they were wet. And so like, it's, it's, it was
a shot of him like standing up and then he's wet and his pants
are drooping and his mom like pulls his pants up.
And I thought, oh, that's a cutelast shot for the video.
You know, you should do that. And it's kind of a concluding
thing, like, OK, he's done and now he's done.
But then I thought, no man, likesomeday one of his friends in

(52:27):
school might see this and they're going to be like, oh,
did your mommy pull up your pants for you?
So I was like, I was like, OK, now you got to keep it cool
though. Like, you know, Jay's, he's a
sage and he's laying there feeling the source and just
leave it at that. You know, him and his meditation

(52:48):
and, and doing his katta and allthat stuff.
But yeah, I didn't, I I thought,well, don't put the big boy
pants on shot like, because someday his friends are going to
watch and they'll never stop teasing him over that.
So hey, I saw, I saw a movie. Maybe I don't know if you've

(53:09):
seen it, but you might like it. What's that?
It was a movie called Machine Gun Creature.
No, I never even heard of it. Oh, OK.
I, I was just bored one night and, and so I, I, I thought it
was an action movie. Like, it's going to be like, OK,
yeah, he's a preacher, but he's also taking a machine game, you

(53:32):
know, creature. Yeah.
Preacher. Like like like like.
I thought you said. Creature.
Oh no, Preacher, have you seen it?
I think I've heard of that, yeah.
OK, it's it's a story that you would like.
They made a, a feature film out of the true story and then they

(53:53):
made a documentary with the realguy about the true story.
I, I think his story's like moreinteresting than than either
film that was made. But I did, I did, I was, it was
compelling and, and I did kind of watch it, but it's, it's,
it's the, you know, true story of this guy who's like a party

(54:15):
animal, like hardcore biker, like scary party guy.
And he's married to like a stripper wife and they're like
living in a mobile home and, andthey're both partying and like
being and getting in trouble. And he's like committing crimes
and stuff. And basically they, they, they,

(54:35):
they get religion, like they both become Christian.
And, but he's a very violent guy, generally speaking.
And the more involved that he gets with the church, he does
something like you and Jen did and that is he goes down to like
a third world country and and tries to help the people there

(54:59):
with like as a Christian Church thing, you know, they.
Like he did that. And, and he ends up going to
Somalia, which is like horrendous what those people are
doing to each other down there, you know, horrendous poverty,
horrendous violence, violence against children.
And he becomes obsessed with like helping those like the

(55:23):
orphans in Somalia and the reason they call him.
So he's a preacher. He's there with the Christians
to try and help starving, you know, parentless children.
But it's a war zone down there. So in order to like protect the
children, he's he's getting in all these like scuffles like

(55:44):
these. He's like in a war, like, OK,
you know, the rebels are here, they're going to kill all the
children. We got to go out and kill the
rebels before they kill the children, stuff like that.
So for him, he got to scratch 2 ditches because he became a
preacher, but he still needed tokill things.
So all he had to do was go to Somalia and defend orphan
children and he could kill as many bad guys as he wanted to.

(56:07):
I guess. Yeah, I shouldn't.
I shouldn't say it that way. Sorry.
That was an attempt at a joke. Well, no, I mean, it, it is, it
is kind of the rationale behind the story, right?
I mean, that's what, you know, you, God, you.
Or you could look at it as God used his skills.
You know what he's best at? Yeah.

(56:29):
So, you know, it's, it's, they always say, Oh, God will use you
in mysterious ways, you know, ways you didn't, you didn't
realize or you couldn't, you couldn't fathom because you
know, even in that story, right,it had he not come to God and,
and, and, and all of that, he would have never been there.

(56:50):
But you could say, well, you know, prior to all that, you
know, why, why would God let hislife be that way, right?
A a bar fight biker, you know, druggie kind of guy, right?
That. And then, you know, God turned
all his negatives into somethingpositive to save, to save

(57:11):
children, you know, So it's again, it's a, it's a choice at,
at how you, how you look at it. Yeah.
You know, had he not, I mean, there's no way he'd be on a
missions trip in Somalia if he had, you know, found God.
Yeah. He would have still been in his

(57:31):
trailer dwelling on the on the on on the negative.
Instead he ended up in Somalia helping kids.
And I mean, what a, what a greatway, a positive way to spend
your your life. I mean, maybe only one kid makes
it out, but you know, you're still a positive example to that

(57:53):
kid, right? I mean, that's what that's what
people need to understand is it's not always about quantity
is as it is about quality. And if you could show love to
people, you can, you can show them a side that is positive and

(58:16):
that not everything has to be doom and gloom.
Then then they can learn from it.
And, and we've, and we've talkedabout it.
We have an episode, I think that, you know, something like,
you know, spreads like an STD orsomething like that.
And, and with that's what we're talking about is all the
positive 11. You know, it's the whole drop in

(58:37):
the, in the ocean and you createa, a, a ripple.
And how does that ripple effect amplify out as it as it spreads?
Yeah. And, and that's the same thing
that, you know, you were talkingabout earlier about focusing on
the here and now and that rippleeffect and that positive
thoughts and actions and behavior is going to have a

(59:00):
ripple effect just as your negative thoughts and behaviors
are going to have a ripple effect.
And I think that's where, you know, we need to have more
people with the positive thoughts having that positive
ripple effect than people with the negative thoughts having the

(59:20):
negative because because you, you're going to have a ripple
effect no matter what. No matter what, your actions are
going to be perceived either positive or negative.
And it's going to amplify to other people and get them in a
bad mood. And then that's going to amplify

(59:43):
to other people and get them in a bad mood, right?
Or vice versa. You know it's going to amplify
and people and get them into a positive mood.
Yeah. And, and I think that comes and
all of that is a choice. Right.
It's it's a choice on how you choose to view and live.

(01:00:05):
Yeah, yeah. I do think it's about like you
said, though, it is a balancing act Like it's it, it's, it's
good to be aware of what's goingon, but to have it consume you
and have that be your only focusis probably a mistake.
I, I just read a quote from something at Self Realization

(01:00:26):
Fellowship from Paramahansa Yokanana about thoughts and like
the spiritual, physical nature of thoughts.
And I believe he was, he was basically saying that thoughts
never perish. Like when you've had a thought
and you release it, it remains. Excuse me in in the universe,
the cosmos, all of the dimensions like the sacred

(01:00:49):
geometrical structure behind ourillusory world.
Like those thoughts never go away, is what he was saying.
So Can you imagine, like, how many hateful, fearful, angry
thoughts are just resin floatingaround, resonating in the ether,
like, everywhere? And they say everything that you

(01:01:11):
do on some level effects everyone and everything around
you in spiritual physics. So yeah, if you're sitting there
obsessing on the apocalypse, you're booming that out to a lot
of people who really can't take it and don't want to talk about
it. And we're hoping that just

(01:01:33):
focusing on nice stuff will makeit all right.
And it might. But yeah, thoughts don't perish
was the idea. Like, you have a big, scary
thought. And not only if it will exist
for eternity, floating around inin the ether, you know.
Yeah, Yep. That that whole plant

(01:01:53):
experiment, you know, I think it's proof of that.
Yeah, I think we talked about iton the show before, but it it's
a good story. So I'll, I'll be brief, but one
example of that, first of all, probably that all happens to all
our all our lists. Well, our one listener is the
meth head banging his head on the wall and listening to the

(01:02:14):
hotel maid scream. Oh crap, no, I forgot what I was
going to say. That's probably good.
I forgot what I was going to say.
I was an experiment or a. Thought or Oh yeah, just this
like the self realization fellowship, which I'm a member

(01:02:37):
of, which again isn't a religion.
It is the science of Kriya yoga available to anybody no matter
what religion you think you're in.
So if you're a Christian and youwant to meditate a little, you
can learn how to meditate there.If you're Islamic, if you're
Jewish, whatever your religion is, you can go and learn to, to

(01:02:59):
meditate there if you want to. But anyway, there's a lot of
beautiful temples and, and beautiful meditation gardens,
you know, quiet places to like go and meditate and, and there's
a couple of places they're all over actually self realization
fellowships. They're, they're all around the
world and there's a couple in inLA and one of them is called the

(01:03:23):
Mother Center and it's, it's really quite beautiful.
And, and Paramahansa Yogananda said that the Mother Center was
special because he and the otherguru is kind of left like some
very powerful energy there that they say you can pick up on.

(01:03:44):
If, if, like if you go meditate in the Mother Center meditation
gardens, it's supposed to be maybe you know better for you
than that. All the temples are going to be
good if you go there and sit andmeditate.
But Mother Center supposedly haslike some extra good energies.
So I've taken my son to the Mother Center many times and

(01:04:06):
I've been there many times. But one of the times that I was
there with my son, there was a guy like who worked at SRF who
was sort of giving people like atour of the ground.
And we did, my son and I were just, you know, sitting in the
pretty ground, the meditation garden, like doing whatever.
And, and we heard him talking tothis group of people that, that

(01:04:29):
he was like showing around. And, and they were, there was a
cactus there. And, and the cactus had no
spines on it and no, nothing to post to you.
It was like a like a, a, like a just a smooth cactus with with
no spikes on it. And, and so, and the guy

(01:04:50):
explained Parmahansa Yogananda when he was living did a lot
with AI think some kind of horticulture or like plant
scientist guy. And the plant scientist guy
proved like repeatedly what you were saying earlier about like
if you go up to a plant and you're like, I hate you, you

(01:05:10):
suck, the plant's going to die. But if you go up to a plant and
go, oh, it's good to see you, I love you, you know, you have a
good day. The plants going to do really
well. And he, he claimed that the
reason that this cactus didn't have any spikes or spines on it
is because every single day after they planted it, the, the

(01:05:32):
monks would go by and the horticulturist or whatever plant
they would go by and they'd say,don't worry, you're totally
safe. You know, these are meditation
gardens and we're spiritual and you're surrounded by goodness
and nothing bad can happen to you.
So you don't have to grow spikesbecause no one will ever hurt
you here in this garden. And so, yeah, they, they, they

(01:05:53):
were really nice to the cactus. They told the cactus the cactus
was safe and, and the cactus didn't need spines to like,
defend itself. And so that cactus never grew a
spine just 'cause they, they kept telling it, you're safe,
you're safe. You don't have anything to worry
about. You don't have to bother with
that. So, yeah, I just thought that

(01:06:15):
was a great story. Of course, this has been proven
all over the place. And dear audience, if you're not
already familiar with the work of, oh, gosh, I'm not going to
be able to remember his name. He's the Japanese scientist.
And he he's actually passed away.
But there's still, like, websites and there's like a
Facebook page. Emoto Matsuri, Matsuri Emoto, I

(01:06:40):
think, but he was this Japanese scientist and he started taking
photographs of water like the like the and, and basically if
you took a glass of water and you and you were like, I hate
you, you suck. You're the worst water I've ever
seen. I wish you would evaporate.
I wish you would die. I wish you would, you would

(01:07:01):
just, you know, I I just hate you.
I hate you, I hate you. And then he would photograph
like I think the molecular structure of the water or
something like that. And if you're if you're
screaming at the water, like, hey, hey, hey, then all the
crystals become like gnarled andugly and they look like, you
know, a set from hell raiser or something.

(01:07:24):
And yeah, and and they're all ugly, but huh.
Yeah. And they and they have, they
have nails sticking out of theirheads and and yeah, but but if
you went to the water and you and you're like, I love you.
I love you, you're fine. Everything's safe, everything's

(01:07:45):
OK, I'm with you and I love you.Then you take a picture of like
the molecular structure of the water and it's all beautiful
crystals, like perfectly formed beautiful crystals.
So they post his photos all the time.
And like I said, it's it's like there's several pages on
Facebook devoted to his work. But he absolutely proved that if

(01:08:08):
you're unleashing like hate and negativity just constantly, then
you're, you're tearing the waterup around you, you're making the
cactus grow spikes and, and, and, and you're tearing not only
yourself, but everything else uparound you with your focus on,
on, on the bleak and the negative and all that stuff.

(01:08:29):
So if you want crystals in your water, then you got to be all
love, love, love. Yeah, so, but it's true.
We're like, yeah, we're emittinglike this energy.
And we, we do have to be kind ofcareful about what we do.
I, I do say there's, and I've just said it so many times on
the show that I just don't, I, for what we've been talking

(01:08:52):
about, like I just don't even want to add field of the fire
anymore. But there are some scary facts
that I think actually most people are aware of in the
country and in the West now thatpeople should be aware of.
Like it, nothing good is going on in our government right now
or in our country. So I, I still would advise
people to get the truth and, andnot the fake news narrative.

(01:09:15):
And but that doesn't mean that you, you obsess on that truth
and let it kill you and let it kill everything around you.
But I do, yeah, I think you should be aware of it, but maybe
not, you know, dwell on it or or, you know, because the
solution might be like my ex-wife or, or my brother or, or

(01:09:36):
you might say to kind of stay inthe present moment and, and only
be focused on that and not, you know, obsess on the destruction
of the America and the slaughterof 90% of humanity.
Like try try to put that try to put that on the back burner and

(01:09:56):
just enjoy Disneyland, right. I mean, sure, I all the forces
of evil that really run the world want 90% of us dead by
20-30, but relax, you're in a park.
Feed the duck. You know, like talk to the
actors. Yeah, they.
Don't and you're and you're you know, 1 ripple of positive can

(01:10:20):
counteract who knows what, right?
I mean, yeah, you know, you don't you don't know what what
the positive will do, but it is it is mind altering.
It is proven to, you know, affect the here and now and the
physical elements, you know, so,so look at it this way.

(01:10:45):
You are, you are people are battling that you know, you say
they're not but but but your version of of battling it is to
is to talk about it. But sometimes that's not how you

(01:11:05):
how you battle something, right?You, you, you battle it by
producing a positive to react the, you know, to react to the
negative. So I, I think, I don't think
people are ignoring it. I think they're doing their part
right. The people that are being

(01:11:26):
positive about it, you know, which because it's been, it's
been shown, right, you got to have the positive attitude or
things are going to get twisted and gnarled and, and it is not
going to do any good. So, and then like that, you
know, machine gun preacher, right?
Yeah, take his, his, you know, negative stuff and he turned it

(01:11:50):
into positive. And then he was able to amplify
that positivity and use what he had learned to help those kids.
So yeah, I guess it just dependson how you how you act and and
and and react. Yeah, by the way, I I thought
because, you know, you're Christian and you've done that

(01:12:13):
kind of stuff, I thought you would like, love Machine Gun
Preacher because it's like your story, except this time you got
to bring guns too. Like, hey, Jen, we're going to
go feed the children in that third world country again, but
this time we're going to Somaliaand we're packing heat.
By the way, blessings to everybody, but blessings to the

(01:12:37):
people in Somalia. Because one of the things, if
you do watch the film, either ofthe film is like, it's insane
what's happening there. I mean, the level of like
suffering and, and it's insane. Like anybody who went down there
and saw the faces of these children who are just like

(01:12:59):
orphan children caught in the middle of it.
Like anybody with any kind of heart would go insane like he
does and want to save them. So like, it's, it's horrendous.
People in the West hear this allthe time, too.
But like, yeah, even as bad as the country is now and the West
is right now, like, you still don't know what real suffering

(01:13:21):
is, you know, until you see something like that.
Like where where did you and Jengo for when you did that?
Mexico. You went down to Mexico?
Yeah. Yeah, we were in the back, you
know, You know, there's there's like two sides to to Tijuana,
right? There's the there's the
commercial tourist side. And then behind that is the real

(01:13:49):
Tijuana, where it's like the foothills, kind of very similar
to like where you live where it's, it's not mountains, but
rolling hills and it's hot desert, right in dirt and stuff.
And and then people just live out there, you know, like on the

(01:14:12):
plains. Yeah.
I mean, there's, there's, there's dirt roads and they're
just living in, in basically cardboard shacks or a lot of
them are in plastic tents, you know, basically like, like see
here, you know, you know, all the, all the homeless, you know,

(01:14:34):
the, the, the homeless tent cities.
That's how those people live. I mean, that's, that's really
how they how they live. They're just out there.
Yeah. And So what we were doing was, I
mean, they weren't, you know, itwasn't like groundbreaking
construction, but what we were doing is just building

(01:15:00):
temporary, well, building the equivalent of a of a storage
shed. It it really was, they're just
for, for most people here in America, it would be what you
would go to Home Depot and buy astorage shed.
Yeah. But for them, I mean, they were,
they were a little bit taller than a storage shed.
So it's but it was just like an 8 by 888 foot by 8 foot shed.

(01:15:24):
So like the size of a average walk in closet, but it had a
vaulted ceiling. So it had a deck for a second, a
half a like a, a second story, like a bunk bed.
And so basically, you know, theycould go from a plastic tent to

(01:15:49):
a storage shed that they would, we would put it up on bricks.
So like, you know, 7 inches off the ground so that if it rained
and stuff, they're not in the water and stuff.
And it had a door and a window and and like one light and then
they would hot wire from this electrical pole is crazy.

(01:16:13):
But anyway, yeah, they're just putting up.
We've built quite a few of them.I don't, I don't remember how
many, but we built a lot of themand it was just basically, I
mean they were so grateful, you know, you know, they'd be like a
mother and father and like 3 kids.

(01:16:36):
You know, they didn't have any running water or anything like
that. They had to use big, you know,
the big 5 gallon Sparkletts bottles.
And I don't know where the wherethey got the water, but they had
to walk on this dirt road and they would have the Sparkletts
bottle containers and they'd be bringing back, you know, water

(01:16:58):
and stuff. So yeah, it was, it was really,
really sad trying. To Yeah, but you felt like you
made a difference, though, I mean, and you had a lot of
grief. Oh, you know, yeah.
Maybe 1 less kid got sick because not exposed to the

(01:17:19):
elements so much and you know, maybe somebody got a better
night's sleep. You know, I don't, I don't know,
you know, you, you just you, youhope.
I mean, they were very beautiful.
Amber was only like 3 or 6 months old at the time.
Really. Yeah.

(01:17:41):
And she built a whole Hut for him.
That little baby was out there with the hammer off.
What? Almost good You can't.
No, that's hyper, but you can build a Hut.

(01:18:04):
That's great. No, but, and that is great
though. Like you, so you put some good
energy into the world and even like the like the structure
behind it that'll be useful for people.
So actually we're all supposed to be doing that.
My understanding is like the number one thing in spiritual

(01:18:28):
physics, like that you're that we're all supposed to be doing
that earns you like the best karma and that makes God the
happiest with you and makes the world work the way that it's
supposed to work is to serve others.
That's, that's like the number one thing is like serve other

(01:18:48):
people, help other people. And I mean, so you got there,
you guys were doing that, but probably we need a few more
people too, don't you think? Like just, I mean, for people to
kind of like take that to heart and make that a mission for
themselves? Like I'm, I'm going to as much

(01:19:10):
as I can without like destroyingmyself or making it hard for me
as much as I can. When I can, I'm going to serve
other people. Like if I see someone who needs
help, I'm going to help them out, you know, if I can do it.
And I that's just not like firstand foremost in, in most

(01:19:30):
people's minds, maybe especiallyin the West, But that that is
what it's supposed to be like. You want, you want to go to
heaven. You want God to be happy with
you. You want the world to be a
better place more than meditating or doing yoga or
doing a ritual or, or, you know,or anything that you're doing.
Serving others is like the number one thing.

(01:19:53):
Yeah, is my my understanding. Yeah, to serve, man.
Just not as a meal, but as a lesson.
Yeah, don't. Cook, I was trying to contact
some aliens last night, man. I woke up I I, I woke up at at.
3:00 in the morning. And so that's supposedly the

(01:20:13):
time when the walls between the dimensions are the thinnest.
And so if you're going to meditate like 3 in the morning,
which is a common time that lotsof people wake up to.
And it's because the walls between the dimensions are the
thinnest. So if you wake up at 3:00 in the
morning, yeah, you should meditate or do something.

(01:20:34):
But I have, I mentioned him on the show.
I forget when, but I, I do like Doctor Steven Greer, who's the
guy who says there's no bad aliens and they're all spiritual
and benevolent beings and, and we can talk to them using
medication. So I, so they don't, they're not

(01:20:55):
coming to serve man as, as the main course.
They're coming to like serve manif they're coming, you know, to
help them like, oh, OK, here's some free energy.
Now you can get rid of the electric company, other stuff
like that. So yeah, I have, I have his app,
the CE5 protocol app and it's like 10 bucks.

(01:21:17):
Yeah. And if you use it, then it'll
take you through like a guided meditation to reach out to
extraterrestrial people. And so, yeah, I woke up at 3:00
in the morning and I was like, OK, well, you should meditate or
do something. And I was like, let's let's
contact the aliens, man. 3 in the morning, man.
You know, they're, they're like 5 hours ahead or whatever.

(01:21:39):
It's totally different. Or you.
Know so I did. Try I I felt some strange things
but no aliens showed up. But for anybody out there, our
one listener, the meth head banging his head against the
wall, get the CE5 app. You can do something else
besides bashing your head against the wall and contact

(01:21:59):
aliens. Two Men with a Mic is recorded
at close on the Hangar Studios. You can reach the guys at the
number Two Men with the mic@gmail.com.

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Cool days were tough, but all wehad enough lasting tunes.
Rock was rough. We dance, we laughed, we
laughed. Tell the stories lit up right
underneath your city lives. Rock ruled our every night
memories echo it goes up the fight.

(01:22:54):
The stage was our domain, the teenage hurricane.
No glory without the pain. But we did all again.
Then posters on the wall. Dreams felt like they stood
tall. Fame stands on sunset and tall.

(01:23:14):
We were kings before the fall comes.
Always little pride underneath your city lights rock rolled out
every night. Memories echo echoes are good
fight. The stage was our domain, a

(01:23:50):
teenage hurricane. No glory without the pain.
But we did it all again. Fan posters on the wall.
Dreams felt like they stood tall.
Fame spans home, sunset and tall.
We were kings before the fall, telling stories lit upright

(01:24:13):
underneath a city light.
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