Senility

Senility will make sense of all this reasoning!

Episode Transcript

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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
Whenever you are welcome to two men with a mic.
Greeting, greeting. Good morning.
How's it going? Sir.
Awesome, my friend. Just freaking awesome.
Really. Yeah.

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It's so freaking amazing. I can't believe.
It really? Wait a minute, is it the
opposite of what you just said? No, no, it's all good.
You know, I just noticed very achy this morning.

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But other than that, you know, it is a wonderful day.
We're, we're blessed to be alive.
We're, you know, making it through another episode, so we
should be celebrating that we'vegot a another season.
This is the end of season 4 coming up.

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You realize that this would be year four of two men with a mic.
Wow. So.
A resounding silence. And the audience goes wild.
And the the. The one man's head, banging his

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head against the wall who listens to us kind of didn't
notice, dude. So we've been doing this for
four years. Yeah.
Wow, you would think I would be feeling better by now since we
started this show during my my divorce.
Four years later, I don't know. How about you?

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Do you feel better for having done four years of shows?
Yeah, you know, I mean, I think it's cool.
I think it's, you know, it's just I, I think that the fact
that we've just hung in and continued to do these

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conversations and record them and, you know, all that kind of
stuff, I mean, that's, that's really pretty cool, you know, So
we're, we're really close to 200episodes.
Wow. So, yeah, yeah.
Pretty amazing. That's a lot of hours.

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That's like 200 hours, give or take.
Some shows are longer, some are shorter, but if you just
averaged it at an hour, that's like 200 hours.
Can you imagine sitting down in a room and listening to two?
100 hours straight or that can be used as like a punishment or

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like, yeah, torture, black sites, life in jail or 200 hours
of two men and a Mike. OK, kill.
I'm in jail. Well, let's think so.
If it's if it's, can I have the death?
Penalty not 202 men and a Mike. Oh, let's see.

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So you would, you would have. Let's see.
So if it's right, is that right?Four years.
No, wait. Yeah, 200 hours.
Right 50. Well, I.
Forget 54. Yeah, that's 200.
Yeah. Boy, is that right?
50 and 50 is 100, Yeah. And 50 and 50 is 100, Yeah.

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So that so that 200 hours of men, two men with a mic and you
would get oh, now I lost my train of thought.
I forgot why I was adding that up.
So I wonder how many days that was.
I wonder how many days that was.OK, if there's 24.
So that's only like 4-4 days andfour hours.

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So, yeah, I mean, you could burnthrough us in a week if you
locked yourself in a room and you listen to us non-stop and
never slept OK for for four days.
You know, we should have a contest and see who wants to pay
us to do. That we're going to get a letter

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from some dude in a mental hospital.
I did it. I wait for four days and four
hours straight. Now where do I pay you guys?
Oh, wow. Well, when you sum it up like

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that, it's not very long, right?It's only four days.
I mean, it's like, come on, man.You can.
You can stay awake for four days.
I mean, we've stayed. I've never stayed.
Well, I've never stayed awake for four days.
I can say that I've never done four days.
I've done it, you know, a day ortwo, but I don't think I ever
did four days. Yeah.

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That would be a lot. I remember when I lived in San
Diego, they, I, I think it was 91 X, which is like the K Rock
equivalent. So it's like alternative rock.
They were a good mix though. They were a good station.
I think it was them, but they, they had a contest.
There's a roller coaster in Mission Beach, like an old

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wooden roller coaster that's been there forever.
Those are always cool. You never, you never, you never
know if it's going to have dry rot.
And yeah. I forgot what it was called.
But anyway, they had a contest where I forgot what you would
win, but they were like they people would go on that roller
coaster and ride it for like a week straight.

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Like they they, they load up theroller coaster cars and just
start it. And, and they would stay on it
for like 5 days to like win a contest.
And there would be people like, OK, I can't take it, let me off
and stuff like that. But the basic idea of the
contest was just stay on a like magic mountain Colossus style

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old. Wood.
Just stay on that for five days straight or whatever.
I remember listening to the radio and they'd be getting
updates and stuff and you'd justhear the the sound of the roller
coaster. And then these people, like, I
don't know, man, it was funny. That's what we need to do.

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We need to have a contest like that.
Yeah, yeah, just to see how manypeople can stay awake and you
know, how many episodes they canlisten to non-stop.
So but hey, hey, the good thing about doing that would be that
like, you know, they could stilltake a shower and take a dump

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and you know all that and they could still listen to the show.
So they could still do. Some normal stuff, you know?
Yeah, out there in the roller coaster contest.
I think they did give them like a couple of bathroom breaks.
Yeah, but but then it. Was like OK back on the roller
coaster. Man.

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Well, the glory. Days of radio.
Yeah, you want to know somethingelse amazing?
What's? That.
Our kids birthdays are gonna be coming up here right after this
episode releases. This comes out on Tuesday.
Oh yeah. Birthdays are Wednesday.
Oh, do we have kids who have thesame birthday?

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Yes, Mike, we have this conversation every year.
Oh, we do. Wait a minute.
Yeah. So you have was Amber born on on
the on the 17th? Yeah, Julie and Gowan are on the
17th. Oh, OK.
And this episode will come out on the 16th, which means
tomorrow will be Julia. In the future will be Julia and

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Gowan's birthday. So you know 2 old men
celebrating a a birthday of their kids on the same day.
Oh God, I forgot all about that.That's interesting though.
You know there are no clearances.
Yeah, that's how you've made it through the last four years.
You forget everything we do so. If I did, I'd be so I mean, if I

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did remember, I'd be so embarrassed now.
But since I just forget everything, it's like we do the
show really. No, but see, that's weird.
That's. That to me that sign of like a,
a sign of like there's a design to the universe when stuff like
that happens like that their kids have the same birthday.

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Yeah. What do you?
So what's, what are you gonna dofor Julia's birthday?
Well, yeah, that's it by you. So.
Send her a present, our car. You know, that's it.
Well, I can love her, and I can wish her a happy birthday.
And, you know, I wish she'd stophaving birthdays so that I'd
stop growing old. But, you know, Yeah.

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Stop time. Yeah, so she is she still drag
racing? Yeah, yeah, there just a couple
weekends ago going about 170 I think really close to 170 miles
an hour. Nice.
You know, so that's pretty damn fast.
But yeah, she's still, she's still doing that and, you know,

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being a mother of three and justgot a, a new job and so she's,
you know, moving around and doing good, you know, being a
mom, I mean, that that takes up most of her time.
So yeah, she's. Oh, here's the train.

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Yeah, me. She's going off the rails on the
crazy train. We're both actually, we went off
the rails on the crazy train a long time ago.
They were never able to put the train back on the track after
us. They just gave up.

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Yeah. So.
Yeah. So that was, you know, happy
birthday to Julia and. Do you think happy birthday for
them? Yeah, we can give it a shot.
All right, this is for Julia andGavin 123.
Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

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Happy birthday dear Julian Gowen.
Happy birthday to you. All right, 2 old dads.
We're we sound like we're playing straight from the
retirement home. Now what?

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From the retirement home. Yeah, wait, wait.
I got to find my teeth. So Yep, how Happy birthday to
our kids. It's amazing how that works.
Yeah, it is. Yeah, my kids getting huge,
dude. Yeah, he's he'll be 8 years old.

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Yeah, 8. Years old.
We've been doing the show half his life.
Yeah, I guess so. Huh?
Yeah. How old is Julia getting close
to? Let's see.
I think she should be 29. Wow, I still remember her in
like a little baby basket thing sitting on the table at your

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screen printing shop while you were pretty AT shirt.
She is just a baby sitting in a little baby thing.
Yeah, she's 29 years old. She has three kids of her own.
She's racing cars. Like what's next?
Yeah, yeah, I think it's 29. It's either 28 or 29.

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I get confused on that, but doesn't matter.
She's right around there. Amazing.
Hopefully she forgives me for being off a day or a year.
But senility, you know, has to be factored into the math.
Yes, it does. You got a.
Factor in senility, definitely. That's a line from a poem I read

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in college. Senility will make sense of all
this reasoning. That's pretty good.
As a dark poet in college. Dark Poet did well.

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So what? What else is going on in your
world? What have you guys been doing?
How's Jen? Jen is sick with the cold, but,
you know, to add on to, you know, brain surgery and being
turned into a Cyborg. Right.
He's a little a little frustrated about that, but
she's, you know, she's doing OK.You know, it's got to get past

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the cold and, and then we'll seehow, how she feels and, and that
sort of thing. So she's she, it's just really
slow. It's, it's, you know, baby
steps. Yeah, like, first she has to get
up in the morning and like, washher brain out, and then she's
got to like, dry it off. And then she's got to push it in

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through her ear and then rattle it around a bit.
Then do the whole day with the brain.
But at the ending of the day, take the brain out, put it back.
What? No, she's doing.
Glass of water on the bedside table.
Yeah, well. Blessings to Jen, I I, I, I

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hope, I pray for a speedy recovery.
Yeah, yeah, she's well, Speedy not, but recovery, yes.
Yeah. Only not speedy, but you know,
and you know, the, the, you know, what could have happened

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and you know, all that kind of stuff.
This is, you know, it's a blessing, you know, to be where
we are because, you know, all the way down to the surgeon.
I mean, she got, I think I shared this before, but but she
got some photos of some other people that had the same surgery
and, and their heads literally look like the stitches on a

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baseball. Oh God, oh man, it's just oh
God, it looked like Frankensteindid it.
And hers, man, she had only likea one inch incision and then she
had an incision behind her ear and couple in her abdomen and
stuff like that. But but it's like it's like,

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wow, really? I mean, those you're like, man
who operated on those people, a bunch of students or something,
because it looked really bad. So, you know, we're grateful for
that. That she didn't have because
that's how I thought it was going to come out.
You know, like a bunch of staples in her head and a big
old zipper, you know, or something that ran from her

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eyebrow to the back of her neck,you know, or something, and all
this stuff like that. But no.
And he, they, they, they did an amazing job.
So we're definitely blessed. That's.
Great. That's good news.
Yeah. So grateful for that.

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That's for sure. And you know, just grateful to
be hanging out with my buddy forfour years.
Yapping. Me too, brother.
And you know, this is the beautyof free speech and a free
country, man. We can just Yammer about nothing
for four years straight. See, that's the beauty of free

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speech. 200 hours of yammerin. Blessings to us, man.
Yeah, that's good. It's.
I'm glad for it. Yep.
Oh, you too. Yeah.
Alright, dude, what do you thinkof the state of the world, man?
Let's go heavy today. The state.

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Of the world, man, it's or what?What?
Well, I just feel sad for America.
That'd be the easiest way I could put it.
I just. It's just very sad.
Yeah. We're we're the center of
probably the majority of the problems in the world.
And there's like no reason. That's the annoying thing,
right? There's like no reason for for

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for most of this stuff now. It's all been created by the
government. Yeah.
It's just, it's just really sad.So I, I don't know, I guess we
just got a, we're in a wait and see mode.
And you know, hopefully 2026 cancan bring a brighter year

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because 2025 has been an utter disappointment.
Yeah, it has. I didn't think it could get
worse in America, but it did considering.
And this is all deliberate. It's all the government, it's
all the world script. It's all social engineering.
It's all brainwashing. And right now, yeah, I don't

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know. America's for me.
And and where I am, America's been dead for quite a while, I'm
sad to say, but it just doesn't exist at any level.
It's it's just a completely different place.
Yeah. How about you?
Do you feel the same way? Yeah.
I think that, you know, one of the struggles that we're going

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to have, well, First off, beforewe get into that, I want to say
I think it's cool that Amber gother to live through her first
snow. Oh, you know what, I was looking
at like weather this morning 'cause I was trying to figure
out where to take my son today for big fun.
And I and on on the iPhone therewith, you know, you have the

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weather app, but like the New York.
So I pulled up New York. Well, I, I have New York, the
American and it, it had like an animation of snow falling and I
was like, oh wow, it's snowing in New York.
So Amber must be like in the snow, probably, maybe for for
the first time in her life to actually see it snowing, right?

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Yeah. Yeah, it is.
Yeah, for any, for our meth headbanging his head against the
wall if he's still listening. Mitch's daughter, one of Mitch's
daughters is going to school in New York.
So and yeah, it snowed today, soor yet last night.
So what'd she say about it? She just said that it was

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snowing and she had photos. She sent a couple of photos and
one of her friends is flying in today, so she's meeting her at
the airport and staying with herfor a week.
So, you know, that's exciting and stuff.
So but yeah, she's been waiting for this because she's never, I
mean, she's banded the snow and,you know, all that kind of

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stuff, but she's never like, lived somewhere where it
actually snowed while she lived there.
So this is the first. That's so cool dude.
Yeah, that's really cool. OK, so now back to the death and
destruction of America. Oh, yeah, I was going to say
that because I'm very special. She's probably the only person

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who's reporting anything good about being in New York City
right now. You know, like New York is
turmoil. I mean, from the news and stuff,
there's all kinds of crazy stuffgoing on there and has been for
a long time. There's there's a mass exodus
from New York, just like California.
People are leaving as quickly asthey can be leaving.

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The rats. Yeah, the rats.
The rats are staying because, like, there's plenty for them.
But no, that is that is a world famous city that that people are
leaving now because it's basically been destroyed.
And the same thing happened in California.
And everybody, my whole neighborhood is filled with for
sale signs. And the other day I I drove my

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ex-wife and my son to a forest monastery and on the way there,
so we were going through like beautiful hills and stuff where
rich people live and going through there, there were for
sale signs everywhere. Everywhere I go where I am cut
back to earlier in the show whenI said America doesn't exist

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here anymore. Everywhere around me, they are
selling their houses and gettingthe hell out.
And, and New York's the same story.
But Amber, Mitch's daughter is very spiritual, very religious,
very optimistic. And so she's always like, she's
the one who's going to say a positive thing.

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Yeah. And yeah.
But ask anybody else in New Yorkhow it's going, and they'll be
like, oh, I I don't have time totalk to you.
I'm packing and leaving. But if you ask Amber, she's
going to be like, it's snowy. Yeah.
You know, which is great that that is her personality.
She's ever optimistic, you know.Yeah, yeah.

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She's actually for her master's thesis, she has to write a book.
Book. Yeah, it's gonna be a kids book,
but it's gonna, it's, it's abouta a, it's from a dog's
perspective and it's about a dogthat gets diabetes and, and all

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that. So it's, yeah, it's for a kid, 7
to whatever, you know, 7 to 11 or whatever.
Aid proof and stuff. Yeah, yeah.
So. That could be cool dude.
Yeah, she's going to write a whole series of them about kids,
about dogs dealing with different illnesses.

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And then obviously they pair up with a kid, you know, so it's a
dog and a kid dealing with an illness together.
So she's modeling it after her life with Sugar.
Oh, that's great. Yeah.
Sugar the dog. Sugar the dog so.
I think that's cool because Amber got diabetes when she was

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very young and and there are a lot of children in the world who
who, you know, have, have the same fate.
So to have a book like that about it and about like a
survivor and a winner and and a person who is defiantly
optimistic in the face of Zoom, you know, like you could have,

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she could have gone the other way, you know, like, Oh my God,
you know, I've had diabetes since I was a kid and life is
terrible and I, you know, I can't go on.
But Amber went the other way where she's the survivor and
she's the winner and and again, yeah, you'll never meet like a
more optimistic person than her.So if all that is conveyed in

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the book, I think honestly, thatcould be really good for her
kids around the world who are going through the same thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's her exciting, You
know, you're talking about a positive attitude.
That's what, you know, made me, you know, think of that.
That's that's how she's trying to turn something that was a
challenge in her life and try and help, you know, other people

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and, you know, get her master's degree.
And, you know, she's, she's already, you know, it blew up to
she was going to, she had to do a book for this class, you know,
and then, you know, it, it just kind of turned in, OK, that'll
be my master's thesis. And that instructor is going to
be her guide or whatever they'recalled for her master's, you

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know, advisor. Yeah, all that.
Right. So it kind of just blew, you
know, blossomed into that. And then she basically, you
know, after we were all talking about and stuff like that, then
it was all like, hey, why couldn't I do a whole series?
You know, why couldn't, you know, why do I got to limit it
to because that's her helping, right.

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You know, why do I have to just diabetes?
You know, I can, I can do it about cancer.
I can do it about, you know, allthe, all the stuff out there
and, and, and, you know, make stories and stuff.
So, yeah. So she's got probably A10 book
series plan now. I mean, she only has to do one
for her master's, but yeah. Dude, she'll probably become a

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famous children's book author. Yeah, that.
I could see that happening. Yeah, that would be.
Amazing. That would be great.
Like, she probably. Yeah, she could just become end
up an author. I wonder if she'd be happy if
that happened or if she'd still want to be a a research vet.
Yeah. Oh, she could do both.
Yeah, that's true. She could, you know, the other

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day, I think I sent it to you. I just had like a geek meltdown.
And I don't think anybody I sentthe stuff to was amused.
But do you remember Speaking of children's books, do you
remember a book called, I forgotwhat it was called, like
motorcycle or, or, or I think itwas called The Mouse and the
Motorcycle. I think so, yeah.
OK. And, and I, so when I was a kid,

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probably like my son's age, like7 or whatever, I there, there
was a book called The Mouse and the Motorcycle.
And it was about this, this little boy had a toy motorcycle.
And this mouse would come out ofhis hole and like ride the
motorcycle all around the house.And then he had like all these
adventures. And I, and I remember the way
that the mouse got the motorcycle to run was that he,

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if he was on it, he had to go. So the only, yeah, the only way
the motorcycle would run is if the mouse made motor, motor
noises. And I don't know, but I just, I
loved that book. And there were, there were a few
of them. I just, I wondered, yeah.
Did you guys, did you see that book too?

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I remember seeing that, Yeah. Oh, OK.
I remember reading it. But I do remember the mouse and
the motorcycle now that you've. I mean, I would have never
remembered it if you hadn't havebrought it up, but.
Yeah, well, I didn't know, but apparently there were, I think
it was like pretty low budget. Like I remember there used to be
the ABC after school special andlike when you got home from

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school there, it was supposed tobe kind of sort of educational
content, but sometimes they would adapt to like kids books
here and there. So it turned out there were like
three or three or four maybe like stop motion animation
adaptations of the mouse and themotorcycle.
See, I feel like I'm the only one in the world who still loves

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that book. Like, I can feel our audience of
1 going what talking about the mouse and the motorcycle?
What? Why do I listen to the show?
Like, OK, you know, even I'm a madman and I got to stop
listening to this. No, I just.
I love that book. And then I thought.
Sometimes you go too. Far yeah, that's all.

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It's just because we were talking about Amber being a
children's author and I was thinking of the kids books that
I really loved. I I think that could happen for
her. I I really hope it does.
But yeah, if there's anybody as the world dies, I I highly
recommend reading the Mouse and the Motorcycle and Amber's book
when it comes out like depressedbecause it's the end time, Read

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The Mouse and the motorcycle. It'll cheer you up.
Yeah. Yeah, there were a lot of books,
you know, like that as as as young.
I like Encyclopedia Brown. Oh yeah, yeah, I love those.
Yeah. Tell us about Encyclopedia Brown

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for anybody in the audience. He doesn't.
Know he's just a really smart kid.
He was, I don't know, was he 10?Maybe supposed to be 10?
He was a little boy detective. Yeah, he was a little boy
detective. His dad was police chief, but.
Oh, that's right. And his dad would.
I mean, they would play games atthe dinner table and stuff, but
he was like really smart and stuff.

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And so, yeah, Encyclopedia Brown, he would, his friends in
school would hire him out to solve cases because, you know,
the case of the stolen backpack,you know, or, or whatever,
right? But then his dad would bring
home photos and stuff like that or whatever and talking about
cases and and in the in the background Encyclopedia Brown

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would help his dad solve the thereal cases too.
Oh, that's right. I remember there may have been
like ATV movie or maybe a movie of Encyclopedia Brown.
I feel like I I like was aware of its existence, but never
really watched it. But yeah, I like you and lots of
people. There's a whole series of

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Encyclopedia Brown books. So when you're a little boy
reading that, of course you imagine you're the the little
boy detective in. It you know.
So it's a lot of fun. And yeah, he's kind of like a
Sherlock Holmes kid. Yeah, those were good.
I I remember loving those. Books.
Yeah, they made ATV series of a crazy son kind of doing that

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called Psych, where he's a private detective and he's grown
up, but his dad used to do that with him.
And then he kind of goes off therails and pretends to be psychic
to get people to hire him. But really, he's just a good,
you know, a good detective. So but he fakes being a psychic.
And so the name of his, his business and the name of the TV

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show is Psych. Like Psych, I trick you.
OK, but they, I think he told meabout that show before.
Yeah, it's funny. It was, it's funny it, it went
for a few seasons. But he started out as a kid too.
His dad was a cop. His dad would train him to be
observant, you know, and all that.
And then when he grew up he became a a screw up and a made a

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fake detective agency solving. That's fine, yeah.
Solving crimes. We were going to solve crimes at
one point. Yeah, we were.
We were all into that, dude, Most of our ridiculous
adventures when we were getting in trouble and stuff.
It was all pretty innocent though, and it was mostly coming

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from a place where we we just thought we were solving crimes
and having adventures. You know, it felt like we were,
we were in adventure movies and stuff when that was kind of the
reason that we did a lot of the stuff that we shouldn't have
done when we react. We would have been a National
Geographic special, 2 American kids unsupervised in America

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today. We are going to steal cars and
race around the neighborhood whoobserve them in their natural
habitat and they push the cars out of the driveway so no one
can hear, right, You know? Yeah, exactly.
I remember telling a cop one time when, when I, I got, we got

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busted like sneaking around at night and stuff.
And I was like, well, you know, I, I, I'm a writer.
I write detective stories. So this is all research for my
detective stories. What are you doing snooping
around the institute at at 2:00 in the morning wearing all
black? It's research for my detective
novel. OK, Officer, I really.

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I did say that. And I think they knew I was
harmless. And so they actually let me go
that night. But yeah, I went out with for
the best, some friends, and we were dressed like ninjas.
And I was like, go ahead. Oh, what?
What were you saying? I was going to say that's
probably one of the best excusesthey heard.
I'm writing a book so. I'm that's what I said I was
like, I'm a writer. I'm writing a.

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Detective book. This is research.
And they were like, OK, then I think they saw we were harmless
kids, you know, because that. Well, I guess that was high
school at some point. Yeah.
But we were all dressed like ninjas, sneaking around this
place that we were going to sneak into just for not to steal
anything or vandalize anything or do anything wrong just for

(33:10):
the joy of trying to sneak in. You know, it was the thrill of
trying to do it, yeah. Like, remember, we have a
college near to us and there wasa 10:00 curfew.
And the college here is, well, it used to be sort of notorious,
like the, the police officers atthe school.
I don't think it's that way anymore.

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And I'm not sure it ever really was.
But I, I remember growing up and, and there were like my
parents and some angry parents and they said, oh, if you drive
across campus with the campus police, be really careful
because they are there and they will give you a ticket for like
anything. And you know, they, they, they
did have a high police presence on campus back then.

(33:55):
But I remember we would do stuff.
So again, we're not going out tohurt anybody.
We're not going out to steal anything.
We're not going out to vandalizeanything.
But just for the challenge of it.
Remember, we would wait until after the curfew and then try to
sneak across campus at the college without getting caught
by the police. Yeah, remember that?

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And I remember, like, diving in the bushes because like, one of
the college cop cars was coming by.
We're like, watch out. He's kind of like diving in the
bushes to hide. But the whole the whole idea was
like, can we make it across without the police catching us?
Yeah. Just for fun.
I mean, it, it was like a detective book or a spy movie or
James Bond thing. Like you, you know you're
sneaking through the institute. With all the people, you could

(34:38):
actually say that it you need tobe like, come on, man, it's
James Bond thing. We got to make it all cross
campus, yeah. So it's so funny, but yeah,
it's, it comes from like fiction, you know, it comes from
reading adventure stories and, and wanting to have the same

(34:58):
adventures, you know? Yeah, yeah.
It's just books, you know, a lotof a lot of stories and a lot of
Miami Vice, I mean. Yeah.
I keep seeing a lot of things pop up.
I guess it's their 5th. Believe this.
Believe it or not, I can't. No, it can't be their 50th.
It must be their 40th anniversary.
No, I don't know. 25th. I don't know what is it?

(35:24):
I think it came out in 1983. So what is that, 50th?
Yeah, it's like Miami Vice 50th anniversary, dude.
Oh my God. Is that crazy?
It is crazy. We we did love that show,
though. Yeah.
Actually, you know, that was theera of like cop shows in the 80s

(35:47):
and stuff. Like there were so many
detective or, or police or spy shows on TV and we used to watch
all of them. Like I remember it was it was a
big deal. Like TV Guide would come out
with their season premiere thing.
It was like the special episode,I mean the special edition of TV

(36:08):
Guide. And it was like all the new
prime time shows that would be coming out in the fall.
And it would be all this stuff about like the shows with
photographs and and all that stuff.
But I remember like in the 80s, you open that up and like
everything was a detective show.Like remember that show Leg Men
and it it was like about like college students and that they

(36:29):
worked part time as a as a detective agency, as the leg man
running around to get stuff. But that one, OK, but there were
just, there were a lot of them, though.
Yeah, there was one where there was 2 college guys who had to,
couldn't get into college as menso they went in as girls and
then they ended up in the dorms or something.

(36:50):
OK, we're trying to stay on a detective theme.
No, I'm no, I'm just checking. No I don't.
I don't remember that one. I remember Bosom Buddies though.
Remember that TV show? Tom Hanks was in it and but it
was kind of, it was kind of the same thing where like they had
they the only apartment they could get in New York City or

(37:10):
something was only taking women.And so the, the, the joke of the
sitcom was that they, that Tom Hanks and another guy were
roommates in this apartment, butthey had to act like they were
women. So they would dress up like
women when they went outside. Yeah.
Do you remember that? Yeah.
So I mean, that's, it's not an original premise.

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I mean, the thing you mentioned and the thing that I just
mentioned, and there's other examples of it, but yeah, I, but
I like remember like Simon and Simon and well, everything was
on and it was like Magnum Pi, Simon and Simon.
There were, it was just like alldetective shows.

(37:52):
I remember it was like the cop era of prime time TV, which of
course made us want to be cops or secret agents or whatever,
you know? Yeah, Bruce Willis had one
Moonlighting. Yeah, there, which I actually, I
never watched that and everyone around me kept telling me it was
brilliant. And then like, especially TV

(38:14):
critics at the time were like, moonlighting is brilliant,
moonlighting is brilliant. And for, for some reason I never
got into it. I I gather there was some kind
of sophisticated writing, but, and it all revolved around the
fact that Bruce Willis was a detective at a detective agency,
but he never had to take any cases because like it was owned
by a wealthy woman, I think. So he was a detective, but

(38:38):
really he wasn't, he was a slacker.
He just liked having a job wherehe got paid and didn't have to
do anything. And then I think that turned
into like, oh, well, now the wealthy woman is going to solve
crimes with you. And, and he's like, but I don't
want to because I don't really do this.
I'm just pretending kind of thing.
I don't, I don't remember the, the premise of it anymore, but

(39:02):
I, I, I actually, I think he wasmore of AI think the idea was he
used to be a thief and and now he's not a thief.
He's a he, he, you know, I thought or something like that.
I don't know. I don't, I don't remember.
That was a long time ago. There were like a bunch of them,
though I, I can't remember all of them.
I can sort of see faces. But yeah, everything in prime

(39:24):
time was, was like a detective show or like Murder She Wrote,
like a murder mystery thing. Yeah.
And so out of that, yeah, we totally wanted to be like secret
agents or cops or whatever. So the best thing we could do to
get close to that was like sneaking across campus to see if
we can make it without getting caught.

(39:46):
Yeah. Yeah, we even tried it at
school. We would.
We would see what crimes we could get away with just to see
if we could do it. It was more if we could do it
than than anything else, you know?
Would this make a good crime? Let's test.
It was like we should. Instead of Mythbusters, we could
be crime testers, right? Yeah.

(40:09):
We would have our own episode ofwe should start ATV show called
crime testers and then we we take a crime, you know, and and
see if it's possible to get. Away with it or not.
And then. Yeah, right.
I'll see that. Yeah, There we go.
That can be our new show. Like, would this crime work?

(40:31):
Let's find out. That would be fun.
Yeah, that's a good. Premise for a check was like,
you know, can we steal? The cars and play tag, yeah, but
I so we did do that. But I would emphasize that if
anybody stopped us, it'd be like, Oh well, I'm in the middle
of a spy adventure. I didn't feel this.

(40:53):
I didn't steal this car to to cause trouble.
I stole it 'cause I'm in the middle of a spy adventure.
We're doing research. We're doing research, man.
This is for the spy novel. You know, like at this point,
the main character is going to have to jump into one of these
trucks, steal it and take off. So I just wanted to make sure
I'm getting the authenticity correct here.

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That's funny, though. I wonder.
I'd probably, it's the same now.Probably.
Well, I don't know what, there'snothing on TV now.
So. Well, I guess there is you you
find shows here and there, huh? We're watching a couple.
We're watching one called Tracker, which is about a guy,
OK, I was going to say a guy whohad a troubled life and a

(41:39):
mysterious father who died, and he's kind of a loner and he goes
and finds missing people for thebounty.
Oh, OK. I saw like a a photo for that or
something. I thought it looked like
Reacher. And so I thought, oh, they're
trying to do like in their own version of Reacher.
Is it at all like? That no.

(41:59):
No. He doesn't break people's bones
and like, stuff them in the truck.
Well, he can. Find dude, he's, he's like ex
military, Yeah, but you know, he's, he doesn't, you know,
doesn't go in like reach or he's, you know, he's trying to
find the kidnapped girl or the lost girl in the forest or but,

(42:22):
you know, usually there's some kind of criminal activity around
the missing people, you know, like the, the pot, the illegal
pot farmers in the forest took them because they wandered onto
their crops and they don't want them to expose them and stuff.
And then he goes in there, blowsup the crops and fights.
See, it's it's that kind of gross inaccuracy and prime time

(42:45):
that really causes problems because you would never get
captured by pot farmers because they would be way too stoned to
catch you. That's just a myth that a.
Pot farmer could catch you on his land.
Because that deeds big no but. OK, so but you like it though?
You like that show? Yeah, yeah, Jen, Jen likes it

(43:08):
too. So it's it's it's one we watch.
We're also watching right now. We're watching The Rookie, which
is a fun show. It's got about seven seasons.
I think it's a picture of that too.
Is is that a it's like comedy, adventure, comedy, action?
Well, it's a drama comedy. How do they say that?

(43:30):
A dramedy. A dramedy?
Yeah. Yeah, But it's got the guy that
played in The Avengers. The the Nolan.
No, not Nolan. What's his name?
The the guy that played in Firefly and then.
Oh yeah, yeah, he's in the new The last Superman movie too,
isn't he? He was the guy.

(43:51):
He's like the the green. What the hell?
Is that guy's name he's the Yellow Lantern, though.
I think he's like a Green Lantern guy, but maybe he's a
Yellow Lantern. But it's the same powers.
Yeah, actually he was good in the in that Superman movie.
I, I grew to hate that Superman movie at the time.
Like something was off. And then the more I thought

(44:15):
about it, the more I realized itwas actually more social
engineering and it was more subversion really of the of the
Superman character. But anyway, but he but that guy,
that actor, I do like that actor.
He was good in that as like the Green Lantern dude or whatever.
So he's got a he's, you know, hehas that, that TV show the

(44:37):
Rookie and the, and the funny part about that, Speaking of old
men, it kind of ties all that together.
Basically what why it's called the rookie is he's a guy in his
40s that decides to join the police, the LA Police Department
as a rookie. He's like a 40 year old rookie
starting with a bunch of 20 yearolds.
I see, you know, so you know, he's he's he's like old enough

(45:01):
to be everyone's dad, but he's arookie and stuff.
So but but yeah, there's, there's a lot of funny stuff, a
lot of a lot of good drama. So it's a mixture.
It's it's actually really entertaining.
Lot of gun fights, cop chases, bad guys get shot, you know,

(45:21):
good guys get shot. So you know.
There you go, the This has been the good Christian review by
Mitchell Looters. Well, lots of people get shot on
the show, so. TuneIn yeah, this is the weird
thing with us, although I think it was the environment that we
were raised in. Like you are a very spiritual

(45:43):
good man, his and Christianity. I I am on my own spiritual paths
with Kriya yoga and meditation and stuff.
But for some reason we both sit down and watch like crazy
violent action movies and actionTV shows and stuff.
So I don't know, maybe we're still working some of it out of

(46:04):
our system or something. Yeah, I mean that, but that's a
that's a good a a good show thatthe one I was telling you about
Tracker is from a book. We I know we were talking about
books and stuff like that, but the the the TV show Tracker is
from a book. Oh, OK.

(46:25):
So at least in the photo that I saw, that dude who plays him
looks. Like the Reacher guy though on
the Reacher TV. Show.
Yeah, kind of. No, he's not that big.
He's not. He's not a big guy like our
Reacher guy is. OK.
Yeah, by the way. That Reacher guy came out with
like a comedy action movie. I did watch the trailer.

(46:49):
I can't remember what it was called, but it.
It's it's with that. Yeah, we, we, we watched it
called Playdate. Was it gay?
You know, for. I mean, it's, you know, I'm glad
I didn't pay to see it at the movies, but I'm glad I saw it on
TV, you know what I mean? You know, yeah, it's worth the

(47:10):
TV time. It's just not worth the $40
movie theater ticket. But.
Is that what it is now? Yeah, almost.
But it's, you know, it's, it wasin, it was funny.
It had some funny moments. It's got that comedian, I think
Kevin James in it and stuff, youknow, So it's a whole parody of

(47:32):
the big, huge Holt guy and the short stumpy, you know, not, not
muscly guy, you know. Yeah, You know, so, but but
yeah, I mean, it gets a little corny, but it, you know, it's
entertainingly funny too. That's good.
That's good. Yeah, that that did.

(47:54):
I mean, he's funny. He he's he's got a good like
presence as an actor. Yeah, he's sarcastic.
You know, he's funny. I he, he's, he's good.
Yeah, yeah, he's getting there. It's helping, right?
Remember, he was very robotic. Oh wait, are we?
Are we talking about Reacher? Or I thought you're talking
about the one with the guy from Firefly.

(48:19):
Oh, oh, Firefly guy. Yeah, no, he's excellent actor.
Yeah, he's good. He's he's he has great comic
timing, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He does really well in The Rookie and and you know, he did
good in Firefly, and that was a while ago.
I like Firefly. You know, I heard that show was

(48:41):
great and, and there were for years they tried to bring it
back and I have no idea why, butfor some it's I, I, I skip I, I
have these times when I skip these shows that people lavish
praise on and, and I know I don't know why, like Firefly's a
sci-fi show. They're flying around in a
spaceship having adventures withweird new things like I love

(49:02):
that, but for some reason I never watched that show.
However, they did do a movie that was released in theaters
after the show got cancelled called Serenity.
And so I, I did watch that and it had some cool stuff in it,
the Serenity movie. And then for years forgot the

(49:23):
name of the creator of that show, but he's, he was bashing
around for a long time in the press saying that they were
going to bring it back. They were going to bring it
back. And then and then they never
did, though. Yeah.
How how many episodes were there, though?
Did you watch the old show? A season maybe, I think.
I wonder why it didn't make it because when that show gets

(49:44):
brought up amongst us oldsters of that generation, everyone
always says that show was great.Hey, did you see Speaking of
trashing Super. So my final reaction to this
last Superman movie that came out was it was another attempt
to basically ruin the role modelof Superman.
So if you if you notice in the movie, Superman just gets his

(50:07):
ass beat for the whole movie andthen crypto saves him, which is
as the version of like what thatcharacter is supposed to be.
In fact, for film geeks out there, probably if there are any
left, their the original Superman movies with Christopher
Reeve were directed by well, thefirst one was directed by a guy

(50:28):
named Richard Donner and and he they shot Superman one and two
at the same time. But, but Superman 2 wasn't quite
finished and for some reason, Richard Donner and the producers
of the Superman movie had a falling out.
And, and so Richard Donner got fired and Superman 2 was only

(50:52):
half finished. And so they gave it to like
another director and, and added a bunch of stuff and changed it
a lot. And that that's the Superman 2
that we saw. So, but there's film geeks in
the world like me and you and, and a lot of people were like,
well, we want to see what would Superman 2 have been like if

(51:15):
Richard Donner had been able to finish it and, and, you know,
make his own, make his movie. So a bunch of film people and
editors got together and they assembled all the footage that
they could from, from Superman and Superman 2.
They even had to use like screentests footage and stuff.

(51:37):
And they put together this thingand they, they call it Superman
2, the Donner cut. And it's very interesting
actually to watch. But, and I did 'cause I realized
I'd never really sat down and watched the whole thing.
And so it's it's it's Superman too, basically, but but but very
different. But there's a lot of elements

(51:57):
that everybody knows from Superman too that are in there,
But it's the Donner version of it anyway.
So I was watching that though, and I'm watching Christopher
Reeve play Superman and he's he was great.
He's playing, he's a hero. He's Superman.
You know, he's the one that can save the day.
And but he plays it with like humility, but also at went at at

(52:20):
at times with great strength. You know, he absolutely plays
the hero, the Superman that people love.
And if you, if you watch like a Christopher Reeve Superman, I
would only recommend watching Superman one and two and not 3
and 4. You realize, OK, well, that's
the Superman movie. And that's how Superman's
supposed to be acting. He's a hero, you know?

(52:43):
But if you watch the new Superman movie, he is not that.
He's kind of like a goofball depressed kid from a small town
who used to listen to punk rock who's sort of like bashing
around with no real clue about what he's doing.
And then for the entire length of the last Superman movie, he
just gets beat up and, and in atthe beginning of the movie, he's

(53:04):
beaten up and Crypto saves him. And at the ending of the movie,
Crypto saves him. So Superman does not save the
day. He just gets his ass beat for
two hours. And that is the social engineers
who work for our government continuing to destroy our role
models on purpose. So we we can't identify with

(53:25):
Superman anymore when the stormtroopers arrive at the
door. Like, you don't think you're
Superman anymore because Superman is kind of a goofball
and he just gets his ass beat, you know, in the new version of
Superman. So yeah, that that was more the
the one before that with Henry Cavill was also social
engineering, government mandated, government dictated.

(53:46):
And in that, they also trashed the character of Superman and
even had him kill somebody. And compare those guys as
Superman in those movies and then look at Christopher Reeve's
Superman and you'll realize how subversive they really are to
that. But you know what?
I am not the only one who noticed that a bunch of like

(54:08):
Superman got panned by major reviewers and they all pointed
out the fact that really it's a subversion of the character
because he isn't that super in that movie.
Mostly he just gets his ass beatand then his dog shaves him.
Well, that makes it for Amber. Yeah, that's true.
That's true. So I guess.

(54:29):
But but I so so it's that is an anti Superman movie made by
people who don't want you to have a role model that makes you
feel strong because they're taking over the country with
tyranny right now. So you, you, if you identify
with Superman, you might want todo something about that.
But if you identify with the newSuperman, you might just let
your dog do something about that, you know?

(54:52):
But so I, I, I, I'm mad, and lots of film reviewers are mad.
They all saw what was actually happening in this last Superman
movie. So I thought, I thought like
maybe the powers that be, the social engineers, the
brainwashers would see that likethe public turned on that
Superman movie pretty quick whenthey realized what it was and

(55:15):
maybe they would need to change direction for the next thing
that happens. But I don't know if you saw it,
but did you see the trailer for the Supergirl movie that's now
coming out from the? Best I don't know.
I've seen some stuff but I can'teven understand it, so I.
Can tell you that no one over atsocial engineering brainwashed

(55:36):
Central, AKA Hollywood feels badabout making a Superman movie
that that make that made Superman suck.
Because the opening shot of the trailer for Supergirl is it's a
newspaper article and there's a picture of Superman and it says
something like, you know, Superman saves everybody.
And the opening shot is Crypto the dog pissing on on on the

(56:01):
picture of Superman. Yeah.
And then she says. Well, at least you got part of
it on the paper. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But see, that's what that Superman movie was.
That was not a Superman movie. That was OK.
We're pissing on Superman in this movie to destroy an
important role model that used to help make Americans brave.
And. But they did not feel bad about

(56:23):
it because in the Supergirl sequel they start with pissing
on Superman. So.
But what did you did you? See the rest of that trailer.
Did it appeal to you at all? No, I didn't.
I saw that, but no, so far it's been I haven't really seen very
much of it. I did see to change subjects,

(56:44):
but not I did see that movie from last week's episode.
We watched it, Jen and I, and Linda, the mother-in-law watched
it. Machine gun preacher.
Yeah, machine gun preacher. OK.
What you guys? Think so They they liked it.
I mean, you know, it's an amazing story, the guy, you

(57:05):
know, down there building missions for refugees in Somalia
for kids. Yeah.
Fighting off the, the pirates and, and, and stuff like that.
You know, so they built the church here in America and they
got the church over there in Somalia.

(57:27):
And, you know, so power, power to them.
Did you watch the the movie or the documentary or both?
We. Watched, we just watched the
movie. Come on.
I don't know, documentary it was.
And that actor, what's the actor's name?
He's a known actor. He did.
He did Spartacus or whatever and.

(57:49):
He's in 300 I think. Yeah, but but no, he's it's
shit. I can't think of his name.
He's AI think. I'm either, I'm trying to
remember. Actually, he's been in a bunch
of movies. Yeah, he's a, he's a, he's a
really famous actor. Yeah, I, I, you know, you might
not want to watch the whole. So, yeah, Well, it's what Mitch

(58:11):
said, and we were talking about it on the show last week, but it
was basically like this hardcore, hard partying,
dangerous biker dude who gets sober, gets God, gets Christ,
becomes a preacher, and then he ends up helping out starving
children in Somalia, I think. And he's like, builds a church
down there in Somalia for them. And he's like going back and

(58:34):
forth between his American life and that life, like trying to
help those children. So yeah, I, I, I'm a film snob.
So I, I, it's hard for me to ever say I really like a movie.
And so but it, but I, I thought,you know, both the movie and the
documentary had had their powerful moments and stuff, but

(58:56):
I thought that story of that guydoing that was like better than
the movie and better than the documentary.
Just the story of it, you know? Yeah, it always is, right.
I mean, it'd probably make a great book, you know, I, I would
think that that would make a better book because again, you
can get the details and you can get your imagination that that's

(59:18):
the advantage of a book over a movie.
I know we like the movies because, you know, I don't know
why we do. We just do.
But you know, the books always are always better.
Yeah, I agree they are. Read a book.
Read a book. Although another spiritual
teacher that I listen to is a fellow named Jiddu Krishnamurti

(59:42):
and he says that reading is bad for you.
That reading a book is a bad idea because the only way to
attune yourself to the infinite or authentic self is to put
yourself in the present moment without being distracted by
thought. Or, or about anything you

(01:00:03):
thought happened or anything youthink will happen.
It's all about being still and knowing that I am.
And so, yeah, Krishnamurti said.If you if you want to attune
yourself to God, then you don't want to watch a movie or listen
to the radio or read a book because those are all
distractions. Those are all more thoughts,

(01:00:23):
their ideas from other people. It's going to move you away and
draw you back into the illusion as opposed to not reading and
not distracting yourself with anything and just staying in the
present moment with that, with in with compassion and
detachment, Then you can TuneIn to God.
He would say so I was it was a very shocking thing to say

(01:00:45):
because I was raised in a very you too.
We were raised in academic families where reading books was
super important and you even gotbrownie points with your
parents. If you read books, you know,
because they were all scholars and, and, and academics mix and
stuff. So I, I was, both of us were
very much raised with the idea that if you read books, that

(01:01:07):
makes you smart. But yeah, then here comes the
spiritual teachers who's like, OK, books are a distraction.
You don't want to read a book about how to find God.
You want to sit still, skip reading the book and just find
God by being still and knowing. That I am, you know, Yeah, well,
I do that, but that's the conversation for another show.

(01:01:28):
But yeah, so good luck to Amber,good luck to us on finding a a
good TV show that could take us back to the day.
Yeah, you know, but but yeah, check out.
Well, there's there's a lot of good show, TV shows out there

(01:01:48):
that are fun, right. It's easy entertainment, I
guess. Yeah.
You know, that's the thing that that rookie, that tracker, those
are both, you know, trackers a little more has the more intense
stuff, but you know, Rookie has comedy and drama and stuff like
that. It's all, it's all good, you
know, and. It's entertainment, yeah.

(01:02:12):
Can't really complain. And the world's ending.
You just sit down and watch somegood TV.
Yep, I heard I they, they said that when the Roman so, well,
they said that when the Roman Empire fell that the people in
Rome were like so accustomed to a standard of living and a kind

(01:02:33):
of a bit of luxury and stuff that they completely ignored the
invading armies because they were just too domesticated and
too relaxed in their happy Romanlives.
And so the invaders just walked in while they were all watching
TV and stomped them. They weren't watching TVTV, but

(01:02:55):
they were doing other stuff where they were just like, oh,
whatever. And yeah, so I don't know, you
and I are going to be watching TV and then the door's going to
kick. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Let's finish this commercial. Yeah, there shouldn't be a
problem with the invading soldiers because we'll be like,
hold. On.
Hold on. Sit down.
This show's great, dude. You can arrest me when the
show's over. You want a beer?

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Because most of the invading army guys would probably just
want to watch TV too, I would think.
Yeah. They'll be like, oh.
That's pretty cool. Hey, wait, instead of a like
horrible tyrannical scene of violence, watch this show with
me. It's a crack up, dude.
Come on in, you guys. All right, we're just going to
watch this show. Chill out, that's what we'll do.

(01:03:37):
Actually, the TV's will save us,man, because the invading armies
will just kick back and watch stupid stuff with us.
I'll be like, hey, did I tell you about the Donner cut of
Superman? You guys want to watch that?
It's it's kind of different. We can only hope.
The power of TV, Don't ever underestimate it.

(01:04:00):
Two men with a mic is recorded at close on the Hangar studios.
You can reach the guys at the number 2. 2.
Men with the mic at Gmail dot. Com Dance let me out of the air
Bobbies is alive. Rock'n'roll memories thrive when

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we were wild and high high school days were tough but all
we had enough blasting tunes. Rock was roughly dance, laughed,
loved. Holsters on the wall, dreams so

(01:05:08):
right they stood tall they standsome sunset and tall.
We were kings before the fall. Those stories lit or bright
underneath your city lights, rock rolled our every night
memories echo, echoes up those bright.

(01:05:40):
The stage was our domain, a teenage hurricane, no glory
without the pain. But we did it all again.
And posters on the wall. Dreams felt like they stood

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tall, Famous fans home, sunset and tall.
We were kings before the fall, telling stories laid off bright.