The book of Mitch

The guys go down the spirit path and Mitch shares how God has moved in his life.

Episode Transcript

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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
Whenever you are welcome to two men with a mic.
Hey, babe, how you doing? All right, Not too bad, my
friend. What's up, brother?
Not a lot. I'm just sitting here chilling.

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Having a day? Yeah.
Kicking back on your patio? Yep.
Looking out across the world. Yep.
Powering. Over my domain.
Oh, there you go, Matthew. As I look down, I look down upon
the peasants as they walk the streets.

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Dude, I heard this song and it'sit's really good and it's like
20 years old. And so somehow we missed it or
you knew about it and didn't tell me.
But it's this song called Space Lord by a band called Monster
Magnet. Doesn't ring a bell.

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Space Lord. Mother, Mother.
Does that sound familiar? I.
Miss that one too. Well, but there there's just a
funny line at the beginning where he's like he's he's
thinking about like how he's great and it's that and the
other. And then he's like when when

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things don't go my way, I take it out on the slave.
It's like, it's like Space Lord by a band called Monster Magnet.
It's got like a bazillion views.So I'm the only one in the world
who never noticed that song. And then the other day I just
sort of bumped into it and I andI thought it was great, though.

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Yeah, yeah, there's AI mean. I know that's an old song, but
I've kind of noticed. Or maybe it's just, you know,
the algorithm sending stuff my way.
But there seems to be a new pushon Christian music and rock
particularly. Yeah, you know, there's some

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good young hip rockers and, you know, that are dressing in
sweats and you know what I mean?Just like the vibe that's out
there right now. And so I'm excited for that, you
know, that that music's making acomeback considering everything
else is crumbling around us. All right, dude.

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Should I do it though? But well, go ahead, do it.
Whatever it is, do it. OK, so there's the guy.
So I've, I've been I've learned so much in the last 15 years.
It's crazy, way more than what Ilearned in the first part of my

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life, but I've learned all aboutthis, this world of spirituality
that we're actually in and, and we are in in Hinduism, they call
it the diva diva para yuga, which is the period where people
wake up spiritually. So for the next like several

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100,000 years, we'll keep wakingup and, and eventually this will
go to us living spiritually in aspiritual society, you know, in
a, in a spiritual situation. And so but yeah, so in, in
Hinduism, they call this time the Devapara.

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That means the energies are rising.
We're going to wake up spiritually.
And some of the tyrants, they'llwake up spiritually too.
So the world that we're in rightnow, excuse me, isn't going to
last much longer. We are going to wake up
spiritually and it's going to get a lot better for everybody
in at Self Realization Fellowship, which teaches Kriya

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yoga and meditation. This is oh, it's the diva para
yuga and it's what it is, is it's the return of Christ
consciousness. That's what they say it at Self
Realization Fellowship that instead of like somebody else
might say, oh, good energies arerising.
People at SRF might say, yeah, that good energy is Christ

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consciousness. And so they say that the the
return of Christ's consciousnessis going to make us all
spiritual and make us all live spiritually.
It's also other people call it the Age of Aquarius.
And and it it means the same thing that that for the next
several 100,000 years we will wake up spiritually.

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It's a long time. Yeah, well, but so that's a slow
wake. That's like a Sleeping Beauty
wake. Well, I, I'm not sure how long
it. I mean, we're gonna, they'll be
years and years of us just enjoying living well
spiritually. You know, there's the guru
Mystic named sad Guru. And I, I, I think most of what

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he's done has been really well, has been really good for the
world. And, and I, I love him and I
enjoy listening to his talks andthings like that.
But Siguria also works for the deep state.
And so he he does. Yeah.
So I mean, look, they just foundlike, what, 2 miles of

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underground chambers filled withtechnology and things like that
under the pyramid. And they didn't just find that
the governments have known aboutthat forever.
Oh, it's just, it's all coming out right now.
And the reason the world government's decided to try and
genocide us and to destroy America and destroy their

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countries and reduce us to like third world slave cast and kill
most of us. The reason that they're doing
that right now is because we're in a yoga and they know the,
they're devil worshippers and they know everything about
spiritual physics that I've learned.
And the deep state is trying to crush us before we wake up

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spiritually. So 'cause as soon as we're awake
spiritually, the the deep state has no power over us at all.
And they know that. So they're trying to, that's why
they're ruining the country and the world and why they want
World War three right now is, isto try and keep us from becoming
enlightened. But they know they can't win
unless they kill us all or kill most of us really soon here.

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So they, they've the number of people that the, that the deep
state wants on the earth is 500,000.
And I think there's 8 billion people on the earth right now.
So that's how many people they want to kill.
Whatever 808 billion -, 500,000 people is, that would be 750,000

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or 7 seven 7,500,000, 7,500,000,000, no 500 million.
Oh no, but they, they only want 500.
Oh no, I don't, I'm not. I don't think it's million.
I think they just want 500,000 humans period.

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And and we would the humans thatsurvive out of 8 billion, only
500,000 of them. Oh, that's too many less zeros
to me. You will live like that if if
you survive, and that's your chances of that occurring are
minuscule. But if you do, then the

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government is going to strip everybody of their technology,
of all of their rights, and we're going to.
What they want is for us to livelike The Hunger Games, pretty
much exactly like The Hunger Games.
In fact, The Hunger Games was made, a lot of people say, to
warn us about the government's plans because that's what they
want to do. So anyway, a lot of people have

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come forward. A lot of people are are have
become famous and, and they're really popular who've revealed
all this stuff about the government hiding technology and
the government really being devil worshippers and the
government really understanding all about spiritual physics and

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the world of spirituality. But lying to us and educating
us. It isn't an education, it's an
indoctrination into a slave system.
But they've been lying to us about everything and they know
all the truths about everything.So one of the thing, one of the
guys who's kind of like risen topower.

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And right now he's he's on like a, a big rise.
But there's this researcher named Billy Carson and you,
you've probably heard of him because he's everywhere these
days. That's all I do is like see
stuff from him all over the place.
But so I sent a video to Mitch because so folks, you know,

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research it for yourself. This is all this is, is
information that I've come across out of my own curiosity
in in research. But Billy Carson and others
claim that the Bible is, is cobbled together from a lot of

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ancient stories that already existed.
And the writers of the Bible just got together and took those
stories and rewrote them as if it were one long thing.
And that, and, and that's the Bible.
But, but the stories in the Bible are actually mostly
Gnostic stories. That's another group of, of, of

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spiritual people with a different spiritual way and all
that stuff. The Gnostics, but they had a lot
of mystical experiences and theywrote about them and that's what
the Bible is. So I, I sent a video to, to
Mitch because Billy Carson was like, Hey, I'm sorry to tell you
this, but the Bible is just plagiarized from other spiritual

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stories from the Gnostics. And so you got fools.
You're it's, it's not real at all.
Billy Carson says and and I agree that Jesus Christ, Israel
and, you know, praying to Jesus Christ and showing your devotion
to Jesus Christ, you know, that's good.

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But the rest of Christianity is a giant hoax and it was just put
together from old fries that that already existed.
And so it is intended to like just give you enough power so
you feel like a, a little bit better, but not to really
empower you and let you know things like, hey, did you know

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Christ consciousness is returning right now?
The government does not want youknowing Christ consciousness is
returning right now. So just for the sake of argument
and the sake of conversation, I just cause Mitch is Christian.
So I just sent that to Mitch. Like, look, dude, the Bible's
fake. Jesus is not the son of God.

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He he is the son probably of Joseph of Arimasaiah.
And but he is a superpower spiritual master.
But what Jesus was really teaching was Buddhism.
So Jesus studied with Buddhist monks and Hindu monks for about
18 years and he came back to theWest.

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And what Jesus was really teaching was meditation and
yoga. But they at the time, the
tyrants around the world, same, same tyrants, they didn't want
Jesus running around teaching you how to meditate and teaching
you how to do yoga. And so they ran him out of town.
And if, if you are a Mason, a member of the Masons who ruled

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the world, I, I, I, I, I'm not sure we've ever had a president
who wasn't a Mason. I'm not sure what Trump's story
is, but almost all of the presidents of the United States
of America have been Masons. And in if you join the Masonic
Order, not only are you going tolearn about magic spelled with a
KMAGICK, not only are you going to learn about magic and black

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magic, they're going to tell youthat Jesus Christ was never
crucified. And if you listen to Billy
Carson, he's also going to tell you that from the tablets that
he's found that were used to make the Bible, There's there's
the he said, Billy Carson says the first version of the Bible,
Jesus is in it and there is no crucifixion.

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So, and if, and the most powerful men in the world are a
part of a powerful organization called the Masons.
And if you, if you make it to bea 33rd degree Mason, like the
top of the line, they will tell you Jesus was never crucified.
And that he was here teaching meditation and yoga and that the
powers that be said, we don't want you enlightening the

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people. You either leave or we kill you.
And so Jesus left and there was never a crucifixion.
But later they, they started describing a crucifixion in the
writing. And then here we are 1000 years
later and we're like, Oh yeah, Jesus was crucified, but
probably not. So I, I, I do want to say I pray

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to Jesus every day. I do meditation, I do yoga.
I'm affiliated with the self realization fellowship.
One of my gurus in the self realization fellowship is Jesus
Christ. So I have no problem with Jesus
Christ at all. But the religion of Christianity
appears to be a total scam. So I just thought mostly just to

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have something to talk about on the show.
I thought, I thought, OK, I'm going to send this to Mitch and
let's just do it. Let's have our that.
But I don't recall seeing that. Oh, no, but no, I don't.
I don't recall seeing what you're saying.
Maybe it got lost in the text thread.

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You know what I mean? Oh, that's a bummer.
Yeah. No, it was the video.
You guys can Google it out therein TV Land.
Our when fan the math head. Who's bashing your head against
the wall? Just stop bashing your head
against the wall for a minute. Go ahead and straw down.
Yeah, put the straw. Yeah, and put the straw down.

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Put the straw down and just Google this and I just feel like
the battery in my phone is gonnadie so I'm making my way through
the cold, cold house. To.
Come in here so I can plug the phone in.
Well, anyway, that's what it so that so and Billy Carson, he

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named the tablets and stuff. He was like, OK, so the New
Testament comes from this tabletand this tablet and this, you
know, so it's all it was all allthe stories of the Bible were
written about in and they rewrote them slightly for the
Bible, but they were written about by other people, mostly
the Gnostics. And the gist of most of the I

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mean, the gist of what's come out of it is especially from
like the oldest writing, human writing on the Earth is the
Sumerian tablets. So meth head bashing your head
against the wall, take a breather, Google Sumerian texts
or tablets and start going down the rabbit hole.
Because the Sumerian texts written by human beings that way

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predates the Bible. Not only, I think, is some of
the Sumerian texts like in the Bible, but rewritten to act as
if it happened, you know, in theway that they made-up.
But the Sumerian texts say it's alien.

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So there was already life on Earth and some aliens came along
and they needed some slave labor.
And so they saw us and they werelike, oh, we could alter them
genetically and use them as slaves.
And so Billy Carson says aliens came down, they found these kind
of like humanish creatures, monkey like creatures.

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And they genetically altered us.And but what they did was they
reduced the size of our third eye, which is your pituitary
gland, I think, and, and it's located between your eyebrows
and your forehead. So the third eye, you wanna
well, people use the third eye to meditate.
People use. I thought that was a rock band,
Third Eye of Aligned. That's why they're all this

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stuff. I'm telling you actually, the
reason that that band is called Third Eye Blind, that's the
perfect thing to bring up considering all the stuff I've
mentioned. The reason that band calls
themselves Third Eye Blind is because the entire goal of our
society, our government, the deep state is to blind you to

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the truth. Like they don't want your third
eye to open because if your third eye opens, then you're not
gonna be a free range slave for them.
You're gonna be like, Oh my God,I'm, I'm enlightened, I'm
awakened. I understand God is love.
I understand that the, the most important for me to do is
nothing except sit still, be still and know that I am.

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And, and you know, and maybe usesome meditated meditation
techniques. Yeah.
So anyway, they, it's the, the, the things that they did, the
aliens won. They, they reduce the size of
our third eye. And the reason that band is
called Third Eye Blind is because the whole goal of the
world governments and the American government and the deep
state is to blind your third eyebecause if your third spiritual

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eye doesn't open, then you'll bea slave forever.
So that's the band being a whistleblower band.
You know, they signed, they did the deal, they sold their souls
to the devil. They sold out and had their hit
album, but they threw a little whistleblowing on there.
You'll notice. I guess they're back, by the
way, I guess they need money. But the but Third Eye Blind

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showed up, had an enormous hit album and then completely
vanished. And because I think what some
people do who actually have a conscience in Hollywood is they
will sell their soul to the devil.
They will rape, kill and or sacrifice a baby to the devil
and they will lie to all of their brothers and sisters

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saying whatever the devil tells them to say.
That's what a celebrity actuallyis.
So if you want to have like a giant rock band, you're not
doing that unless you sell your soul to the devil.
It's as simple as that. And so, but I think what some
people do is that they want it. They want to make a shit load of
money and retire and but they'renot completely evil.

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So they will show up in Hollywood, do all the evil
stuff, rape children, traffic children, murder children for
the devil, lie for the deep state to the public.
They will do all of that shit for like just a couple of years
of being a giant star. And then they'll they'll take
it. They'll take that money and
they'll just vanish, like, OK, I'm going to do this and this is

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really bad. But once I have the money, I'm
going to stop. You know, I'm not, I'm not going
to worship like John Goodman from the Roseanne show said he
he was successful in Hollywood when he was working, when he was
worshiping the devil. And the minute he stopped
worshiping at worshiping the devil, all his fame and power
went away. I thought he died.
No, he he was around. They had, I guess it's been like

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a year or two now, but they had a revival of the Roseanne show
on it. So math head beating your head
against the wall. Go ahead and Google what I just
said. Yeah.
Yeah, well, and, and you'll, you'll find that it that it's
all terribly true. So, yeah, Billy Carson's this

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huge guy. He says the Bible's fake.
If you're Christian, you got fools.
The Bible comes from tablets from ancient civilizations, and
it's been rewritten as if it's all part of one thing for the
West and it's the opiate for themasses.
And you're an idiot if you believe it.
However, Jesus Christ himself, who has been portrayed

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incorrectly in all of these biblical writings, is very real.
And if you ask Jesus into your heart, that's a good thing.
But what Jesus was really doing was teaching meditation and
yoga. So, all right, Mr. Christian,
what do you say to all that? That was a mouthful, brother.

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Sorry not sorry guys for this interruption.
But guess what? Today is Tuesday.
Rants with Amber. Welcome back to the studio,
everyone. Wow.
Thank you. Thank you.
I'm happy to be here, too. What?

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How I knew you guys were here for me.
Hi everyone and happy Tuesday. I can't believe it is another
new week and I am here with you guys live from New York in my
apartment and I cannot believe it.
I officially spent my first weekalone in the city.

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I literally sobbed my eyes out when mom, dad and Ashley left.
It was like so sad watching the Uber drive away.
But I've pretty much just get it.
Have been getting settled into my new apt.
I went out into the city and I also like went to my favorite

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spot in the city, which is the New York Public Library.
Of. Course, and, and I've also just
been, you know, trying to meet people in my building, my
apartment complex did a community event and basically

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they held it on our community floor and they had like
appetizers and like charcuterie and fruit and all of that stuff.
And it was just like a time for people to go down and socialize
and meet everyone. And so I met a lot of really
nice people, a lot of international students, which is

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really cool. And I found a few people from
NYU and one girl that I met, sheactually has the exact same
orientation schedule as me for this week.
So that's pretty cool. So I already had a friend going
into orientation week which madeit so much nicer and my day was

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our first official orientation day and it was so much fun.
I was still a little nervous even though I knew at least one
person, but I wore an all purpleoutfit, of course, because
favorite color and NYU school spirit.
And we took the subway in the morning, wrote it over, and we

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had a campus tour. And then a group of us decided
to go out to eat for lunch after.
So that was cool to just get to chat more and get to know
people. I still have yet to meet anybody
in my master's program that's studying animal studies.

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I've met music master's students, biology, a lot of
computer science, and also psychology, but no animal
studies students yet. So hopefully I'll get to meet
some of those later in the week.But I'm super excited for the
rest of this week and I also have a new student welcome,

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which I'm excited for because apparently we're going to get to
get free merchandise at and thenthere's going to be like a
little cocktail social light bites evening.
And it's so cool. You have to be 21 or older to go
to this. And like, I don't drink or
anything, but just the fact thatthere is an age like limit, is

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that an age limit, age Max that you have to be, you know, to go.
Like, I don't know, why doesn't that make it seem so much
cooler? Like only the cool kids are
allowed to go to this. You know what I mean?
I'm just going for the light bites, you know, guys.
So I'm super excited for that. And then there's also going to
be a Q&A panel coming up. And also my favorite thing that

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I'm super excited about is I am going to the top of the Rock,
which is the Rockefeller Center.And basically when you go to the
top, you can see the entire New York City skyline and like all
of the tops of the building and the Empire State Building, all
of it. And it's like the classic view

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of the city. And we get to go for free.
And typically that's like a $50 ticket.
So I'm super excited for that. And then also my friend Leilani,
who has also been on the podcastbefore, back during our Grease
edition. She is coming on Saturday and

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staying for a few days. So I'm super excited to show her
around the city and just hang out with her.
But you guys can follow along with all of my New York City
content on Instagram and you guys can follow me with the
following username. It's amber dot in dot the dot

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apple. So amber in the apple, but
there's a dot between each word and so you guys can follow
along. I'm sharing all of my content,
all of my New York City content and you know, just like posting
reels, tips, New York City life,all of that.

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And also something I did over the weekend.
I also went to a new church. I'm trying to find a nice new
church to go to, so I went to one in Times Square on Sunday.
It was really nice. I think I'm definitely going to
keep looking. It was such a beautiful,
beautiful church, though, very beautiful.

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And it's like near Broadway. So I think it used to be an old
Broadway theater that they like kind of transformed into using
as a church, but I don't know the church.
It wasn't vibing. Like I literally walked in and
not one person said anything to me, which is just not the church

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vibe that I'm used to. And it was a very, very big
church. And I'm very much more a small
church loving type of person. I don't really like big
churches. So I'm going to keep hunting for
that and I'll keep you guys posted or you can follow along
on my Instagram. So yeah, I will keep you guys

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posted. I love you guys and I'll see you
guys next week. I hope you guys have a great
rest of your week and just, you know, keep following your
dreams. That's my advice for you guys.
Bye. Thank you SO.
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Bye. No, so just to get back to that,
now that you know, we're back, oh, let me, let me, let me tell

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you the other thing that they oh, OK, OK.
The first thing is they, they, they, they, they reduce the size
of our spiritual third eyes to, to make this week.
And then the other one, there's something called telomeres in
your body. So everybody goes Google
telomeres. Telomeres have to do with how

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long you live. And Billy Carson and others
theorized that these aliens who created us, they, they closed
our third eyes so we'd never getwise to anything.
And they, they reduced the size of our telomeres so we wouldn't
live as long. So Billy Carson says, like back
in the day before the aliens altered us, like Prometheus, the

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movie from Ridley Scott, before that, we had open third eyes.
We were living spiritually, and we lived a really long time.
And then an alien race came by and they're like, oh, let's make
them into slaves. So they closed our third eyes,
reduced the telomeres. And it might have even
genetically created in the humanrace kind of a desire to be a

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slave, you know, because we, we love kings.
We love to put, put kings up on a pedestal and place ourselves
as peasants. And when people hire
prostitutes, it's really to be punished.
And and that comes from being a slave and enjoying your
captivity and your torment, you know.

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And so anyway, what do you say, Mr. Christian?
Oh, OK. The last bit was a little much.
Well, I would say kind of what you said at the beginning is, is
people need to investigate for themselves and not take

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anybody's word for anything. Yeah, You know, I don't know
this guy that that you're referencing.
And I would I would say people need to take the myth out of the
Bible. So what I'm saying is, is kind
of the way you're describing theBible is not 100% accurate as to

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what and how the Bible is. So the Bible is not a story of a
man like the like a fictional book is about like say Jack Ryan
about a character who goes on a mission.
That's not how the Bible is evenwritten.
So the Bible, at least its claim, is that these are. 1st.

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Hand stories of people's interaction with an individual.
And the reason that's important is it's not one person's first
hand opinion. It's multiple eyewitnesses
corroborating what, where, why and how so.

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So that's something to to take into consideration is that the
Bible is not a story where, you know, it's about a character
and, and something that happens,right, written by an individual.
It is multiple authors. Every book in the Bible is

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that's why it's titled that way,right?
Is, is, is written by different authors, but they corroborate
each other. So there's your multiple
eyewitnesses of, of the events that happened and, and most of
them are, are, are not trying toremember everything you said

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'cause it was such a mouthful. Most of them are, are, are just
first hand eyewitnesses of, of events that happened, not
predicting the future. Most of it is about their
stories of how to be a better person.

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How when you make a poor choice,the consequences, you know, you,
you don't, you don't get off Scott free, but that there is a
a light at the end of the rainbow or tunnel.
You know, the, the stories in the Bible, you know, they, they
talk about people that were blessed and loved by God, but

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then it shows their human weakness and their downfall from
that human weakness. And then most of the time their
redemption from that human weakness, you know, by their
faith in God and doing what is right.

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So I mean, it's, I guess it's a lot of it depends on how you
take the, the stories, right? Because there are multiple
witnesses. It isn't, it isn't one person
just writing their opinion. It's not an opinion article.
It's multiple people from the time saying things, saying

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things sometimes in their darkest moment.
Yeah, there are some things in there that are, are people's
opinions of the time. I mean, there, you know,
obviously, but but most of it isit's, it's multiple eyewitnesses
stories being put together in a book to corroborate each other.

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And you know, at the time they didn't have video, they didn't
have, you know, that this is thebest way they can do it.
But but my my thought on any of that is that, you know, it's up
to each individual person. You can claim all the things you
can claim like you just said, but I personally, you know, I

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and I, I have no, I mean, I do have a couple of witnesses and
stuff if I dug down and call them and that sort of thing.
But you know, you know, I'm not a liar, but would somebody in
1000 years know I'm a liar? No, but you know, I have
witnessed, you know, what I callGod's miracles first hand.

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And I've told the stories in different episodes, you know, in
the past, you know, like I said,it, it's, it's to each
individual person to make that choice for themselves.
It, it, it, it, it, it really is.
You can't take the opinion of others.
You, you know, like Mike said, you have to investigate.

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Yeah, Do you? I, I will say this though, they
are censoring the Internet. Our government in the United
States of free speech is censoring the Internet.
Other world governments have long censored the Internet.
You are not going to get the full Internet in China.
You, you I don't even think theyallow Yahoo in Thailand.

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So I forgot why I brought that up.
Well, you're just saying you're not going to get all the.
Information. Yeah.
Like a lot of like, I tell you, like, OK, they're killing babies
and worshiping the devil. And that's because I saw
information online, including videos and photographs.
And. But now they're still there.

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I mean, if you start Googling this stuff, but a lot of it has
been taken down. The government is censoring it
because there were a lot of whistleblowers with a lot of
evidence telling us what our government really is and what
the world's governments really are, which is Satanists.
So we're in the devil's world. But yeah, now when you go look
for that stuff, a lot of it has been taken down.

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In fact, the guy by the government.
They're they're because it's thetruth.
And so they're trying to, like, press it before too many people
know about it. Although I, I think they're,
they're too late. Oh well, I kind of forgot again
what I was saying. Yeah, well, you know, it's.
Just, you know, this has always been an argument of religion and

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beliefs. You know, everybody, you have to
figure it out for yourself. For me, you know, I'm going to,
I'm going to believe in Jesus and I'm going to believe in God
because God has moved in my life.
And I, I, I, I do want to say I believe in Jesus and I believe
in God, but I don't believe in the Bible.
It's the book. I, I think that those stories

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were true. Those stories really did have
eyewitnesses, but they just sortof rewrote them so they would.
All but but but. Here's the here's the thing.
Here's what I think you're making the mistake on is is
there isn't The stories in the Bible are examples of how to
live your life, nothing more than that.
They aren't I'm I'm not sure what you're saying about.

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About not believing in the Bible.
The stories in the Bible are if.If if you.
Actually read and listen to whatthe Bible is saying.
And it's, it's, it's doing it through analogies.
It's doing it through other people's troubles and, and lives
and, and, and that sort of thing.

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And they're not. It's not.
I don't, I don't, I don't know how to explain it other than to
say it's just a road map. It's, you know, like the acronym
Basic Instructions before leaving.
Earth, right? Yeah.
It's it's telling you how to live.

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The Bible does not tell you to go and kill your neighbor.
It says to love your neighbor. Yeah, I.
Think that's bullshit? You got to be killing your
neighbor. But it's, but it's not it, it,
it, it doesn't say, you know, dothis, do that, do this.

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It says believe this and this will, and it, you know, and, and
good things will happen. But it also says not all the
time if you're not free of, of the challenges of the world.
That's that's what it it says that you know there's going to

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be problems. All the stories, all the stories
in the Bible have all the main characters, all the all the.
Religious greats suffering, yeah.
You know it isn't. It isn't a story of, you know,
purple hearts and yellow moons and everybody's, you know, joy,

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joy, happy, happy. And you know, we, we, we live in
this peace and harmony. It's, it's, it's quite the
opposite. It, it's, it's a story of, of,
it's a, it's a book of stories of troubles, of people's
struggles and, and how their faith helped them overcome all

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these struggles. That's that's what the Bible's
about their, their, their individual eyewitness accounts
of struggles and how people overcame those struggles with
their faith, faith in Christ, inJesus.
I mean, I'm in God and that justlike with me, right, No one's

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going to you know it. My story, for example, I'm going
to tell it just because I doubt anybody's going to go back and
listen to the other shows. There was no one listening to
the other show, sorry to tell you.
We're just we're in a vacuum dude.
The the meth head beating her head against the wall is the
myth. We just our our egos made that
up to so we would feel better about just talking to no one.

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Well, what about, hey, what what?
What about the the bald fat man sitting in the corner holding
the doll? Is he fake too?
Oh yeah, that's a total figment of your imagine.
Oh well, that sucks so. Come on, let's hear it.

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Nobody wants to hear it, and nobody's going to hear it, so
let's hear it. We are the underdogs.
Right party of none, please. That's funny.

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So, so yeah, here's the here's the, here's the story of, of the
things that how, how I mean, I have a few of them, but here's
one. Maybe I'll tell another one.
We'll see. But so down in Southern
California there is a place called Ontario, CA.
And Ontario, CA is kind of Southof an another area called the

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Cajon Pass, which is a mountain value valley with, you know, the
mountain ranges on both sides, you know, climb up to the 5000
foot level and it and the Cone Pass is a freeway that goes
between these two mountains thatare real big and tall, right.
So up at the top of that cone pass is an area called the High

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desert. So what happens at certain time
of year, season is we get these huge winds.
Picture all this wind from the desert hitting those mountains
and then coming through like a funnel through that Cajon Pass
and then down into Ontario. So the winds in Ontario are, you

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know, can get up to 50 to 80 miles an hour running through
there. You've seen that, right, Mike?
That fan that's coming through, right?
So I mean, I've seen wind there that literally I've driven down
the 10 freeway where there was probably 50 plus semis all blown

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over on their side. Look like someone went through
and just shot all the trucks in the head and they fell over and
died. And, and the cars are just kind
of slowly meandering through allthese semis that have blown over
on the freeway. So, you know, it gets pretty
strong there. There's also an airport there,
an International Airport, you can look it up called the

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Ontario Airport. So there's airplanes.
So I'm at this is one time I'm at the Ontario airport with a
friend to pick up his mother or mother-in-law.
I don't. I don't.
Remember who we were picking up?It was Keith I was with, just

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for my eyewitness account. His name is Keith.
He's my partner at the time in construction.
So we go to the airport, you know, you go into the airport,
you get a ticket, the gate rollsup, you go park and, you know,
you meet your party, you come back, take your ticket, you put,
you know, you give it to the attendant and you pay for the
amount of time you were parked. So if you don't have your

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ticket, then you got to pay for the whole day.
So we go park, get the people goback to the truck.
I'm looking for that parking ticket.
The and and this is on a windy day with Santa Anas are going
right. It's not 80 mile an hour, but
you know, they're going 4050 miles an hour.
So windy day, night and or whatever it was.

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It was, you know, in between dusk or what is dusk the night
time 1 is that when it whatever,whatever, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, well, yes, it was, you know. 5:00 or whatever, right,
kind of not, not midday. And so we, we're get, we're
piling in the truck, their luggage is in the back, doors

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are open, all that stuff, right?We're look, you know, I'm, I'm
getting in, I'm sitting down, put my seat belt on and I'm
looking for the ticket. Can't find the ticket, you know,
can't everybody's looking. So everybody stop, you know,
everybody look, see if it's on the ground at your feet, right?
Let's we can't find the parking ticket.
We spend whatever, 5-10 minutes,right, like you would looking

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for this ticket. And then finally I'm like, well,
you know, we'll just show them your arrival, you know, your,
your thing and just let them know.
We don't know what happened to the ticket.
We lost it, right. We'll just try and talk our way
through not having to pay an entire day's worth of parking.
Yeah, so, and then the parking lot at an airport for the folks
that, you know, probably have never been, they're long, right?

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The, the, the aisles for the cars to park.
It's like going to a, a big mall.
It's parking like that, right? It's rows and rows.
So you know, of whatever, let's say 40 cars deep, you know, 40
spaces. And then you and you have to
zigzag like a Serpentine. So you're to, to get out of the
parking. You know what I mean?

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You go up 1 aisle down the Next up down like that, right?
So I back out of our aisle. I go up to the end, so you know,
4020 spots from where I was, circle around and then come back
down on the other side of where I was, right?

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The wind's blowing this whole time.
I get to the end of that row andin front of my in front of my
truck, you see a ticket float down in the sky.
Swear to God, out of the sky, like touched by an Angel,
whatever, floating in front of the truck and falling on the
ground. I put the truck in park and I

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say, that's our ticket. And I open the door.
I get out, I go over and I pick up our parking ticket.
OK, Then I go over and we get out and there's no problem.
And and, and so some of the things I left out of that story
that I'll go back and fill in because it was like, well, you

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know what is we know whatever. So, you know, when we were
leaving and all that, you know, the conversation was, well, you
know what, God's got our back. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll be
fine. You know, we're going to have
faith. It's all going to work out.
We'll go talk to the attendant. There's, there's nothing we can
do. We can't find the ticket.
So, you know, that was the, the speaking the face that, that,

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that, that, that, that was vocally saying that I have faith
in the Lord. And, and there's no way you've
been in that wind. There's no way by the time I
drove, drove up that aisle and came back down that that ticket
should have still been there. And then literally float in
front of the truck. I mean, it, it fell 3 feet.

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I mean, you see that with that kind of, with the lights, you
see you, you saw it, it just fluttered and fell on the ground
and it was right there. So, you know, that's an example
of expressing your faith and believing that that things will
work out. And in that particular instance,

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everything worked out just fine.That was our ticket.
I don't know how it how it did that.
I don't know why it fell in front of the truck.
You know, 5 minutes later when the wind blowing 4050 miles an
hour, it should have been long gone to Chino or something by
then. You know it should not have been
where it was. Yeah.

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So I mean, that's that's one example.
You know, I have, I have anotherexample where where where God's
moved in my life. I mean, besides my wife in
general, which was just a complete blessing.
But you know, Keith and I were working on construction site and

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the contractor was just really sketchy.
Just just like not building right.
Just something was off and we could feel it.
You know you, you, you. You know.
You've been around. People and you're like.
Oh, man, something's off about this guy, you know what I mean?

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Yeah, you know what I mean? How you get that vibe and stuff
you're sensing. His intention and his heart
feels Yeah, that's honestly thatwe have a heart field that goes
around us. People always say, oh, I, I
could sense that guy was bad news.
And people always say stuff likethat.
And the reason is because our heart gives off a heart field

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and other people can feel that field and they can sense your
intention in the field. That's what that's a lot of
spiritual masters say. Oh, OK, so.
Anyway, we, we just, we, we justdecided we were like, you know
what, we're not going to work for this guy, you know, now.
And, and this was back in our lives when it was like, well, I
mean, technically I'm still thatway, right?

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I need money. I need to support my family.
You know, if I don't work, I don't know where my next meal is
coming from, you know, that kindof thing, right?
Not, not, not like I got millions of dollars in the bank
and I'm like, oh, I just work 'cause it's fun.
You know, I'm not in that kind of situation at all.
And so, you know, when this is back when I was paying child

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support, you know, I'm paying like whatever, 1200 bucks a
month and child support alone. So, you know, just all that
stuff in my life. And I don't know if that's, I
remember what my child support was back then at that particular
time, but I know it got up to that.

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But anyway, so we were like, youknow what, we just, we just told
him, Hey, you know what, we're going to move on.
We just, it just doesn't seem right working here.
So we basically walked off that job at like we had worked there
maybe a week or something like that.
And then we walked off that job like at, I don't know, whatever,

(51:25):
8:00 in the morning, something like that.
And we're like, well, shit, whatare we going to do now?
Because we go home, We're going to get our asses kicked by our
wives. We walked off our job.
We were like, well, let's go getsomething to eat, you know, And
so we went and, and went to, youknow, whatever, Denny's right
And got some breakfast and we were just, you know, we were

(51:46):
talking about it. We were like, yeah, it just, you
know, it doesn't feel right. It just didn't feel right.
Something something sketchy, something off it just it's not,
you know, you think that's what we were we were talking about.
It's like, man, I just, I, I just know that what we were
doing was it wasn't right, right.
I mean, that's kind of how we were talking about.
And then we were like, man, whatare we going to do next?

(52:09):
You know, we, we just walked offof our jobs because of our
beliefs and you know, how do we eat?
How do we feed our family? What's our pay next paycheck?
And while we're sitting there having that conversation, you
know, and, and, and, you know, talking about what's next and
just, you know, like, well, you know what?
We're just going to have to trust in God.

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He's going to take care of us. We know that by doing right,
things will work out. They don't always work out
perfectly and not the way we envisioned it and we planned it,
but you know, things will work out and you know it, it.
So we're sitting there, right? And we're, we know we're having
these conversations. We're eating our bacon and eggs

(52:52):
and drinking our coffee and and all that.
And my phone rings and there's aguy on the phone I never met
before and he's all like, hey, is this mention?
I'm like, yeah, this mention. He's like, hey, this is Damian.
I'm a contractor down in SoCal. And I was like giving you your
guys name and number from a friend from a friend.

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And I'm in the middle of a job and I, I need, I need a couple
of guys. You guys wouldn't happen to be
free, you know, to come out heretomorrow, start working.
And, and we're like, yeah, as a matter of fact, we just wrapped
up the project we we were on. So, yeah, we're available and

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went work for, you know, the next, the next day we, we were,
we were down there working for this guy Damian.
And, and Damian's a really nice guy.
In fact, he's the guy that helped me to get my general
contractor's license turned in to be a good family friend.
I mean, I don't talk to him thatmuch anymore, but I mean, he
really taught me a lot. He was a general contractor and

(53:58):
he kind of took me under his wing.
And, and, and the reward, the reward we had gotten for, for
doing what was right. We had no idea that was going to
happen. We didn't know this guy.
We had no idea, but we had faiththat things would would would
work out and the benefit, you know, if we had stayed on that

(54:18):
other job and that guy had called, we would have been no
man. We're, we're working right And,
and that choice to walk off and do what was right based on my
beliefs from the Bible and beinga Christian, you know, forced me
to walk off that project and be available for the blessing that

(54:42):
God wanted to give me for, for doing what was right and
following, you know, the examples from the Bible.
So, you know, I, I guess it depends on how you look at it,
because that's that, that set mywhole life up to where I am
today. Had I, had I not gone through

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that and got my time with Damianand met him and worked with him.
He taught me so much on on construction and, and and that
sort of thing. And you know, and, and Damian
isn't necessary or was, and I can't speak now.
I haven't talked to him in some years, but you know, he's not,

(55:26):
he wasn't like a suit, you know,a super religious guy in any
way, shape or form. So God uses everybody.
You know, God uses the weak, he uses the lost, he uses
everybody. He doesn't just use the
preacher, right? He uses everybody and, and

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people don't even know they're getting used, right, Damian.
All Damian knew was he needed help.
And God, God worked to pass that.
Somehow our name and number got to this complete stranger down
in Anaheim about us. And, you know, I don't know how.

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And I, I even asked him how he got our number.
I don't remember. But it was like a guy of a guy
or something like that, you know, just something totally
bizarre because we didn't know him.
And so you know it. And this was, you know, when was
this? This would have been back in

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when the Internet wasn't such anInternet thing.
So he didn't find us on the Internet, you know, so, so
there's a, there's another example and, and that story and
that example is what the storiesand examples are in the Bible.
That's how the Bible is written.That's an example of how a story

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in the Bible is told. Now, is anybody going to believe
this story that I just shared with you in 1000 years?
Probably not. They can say it's made-up or say
it's an episode out of Stargate,you know, or, or Star Trek or,
or, you know, whatever. But that's what happened.

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That's the, that's the God honest truth, right?
And and you know, there's, there's even another one.
So this one in, in the Bible, ittalks about how our
responsibility of paying our taxes and, and you know, give
unto Caesar what is Caesar's and, you know, give unto God,
what is God's and, and, and so on and so forth to know, it's

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talking about do what you're supposed to do by the laws of
your land, you know, live by, sothat you can live in a society
that functions. And so during the time in our
lives, I mean, we're, we're kindof always like that.
But you know, we, we didn't, we didn't really have a lot of
money. Amber was having a lot of

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medical stuff and, and, and all that kind of stuff when it was
all kind of brand new and that sort of thing.
But we had a, we, I was working like 3 or 4 jobs at the time.
And so we had a, we, we got a bill from the IRS said we owe
them 100 and 100 and like $37.48or something.

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Don't quote me on the exact dollar amount, but it was some
random, random number like that,right?
So we were like, oh shit, you know, I'm just like, well, let's
just pay it. We don't, we don't have a lot of
money. We don't really have that extra
money to pay. Let's just, let's just do it.
Let's just do what's right. Let's pay the bill.

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Let's just, you know, get it done.
I don't know how you know what, what we're going to do or
anything. So we write the check and we put
it in the mail. You know, you know, we write
like I'm making the days up. But like Monday night, we write
the check and we put it in the in the mail to go out Tuesday
morning, right? So Tuesday night when we come

(59:08):
home, you know, we get the mail.In the mail was a check from one
of my employers that you know, because I had a bunch of part
time jobs and stuff like that was a check from one of them.
And the letter with the check said randomly we select an

(59:32):
employee to give an extra bonus for all their hard work and, and
stuff like that. And we selected you this this
month or whatever this quarter. And you know, so here's a little
thank you for, you know, your hard work and helping the

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company and, and all that. And it was a check for the exact
down to the penny amount that wehad written the night before to
the IRS. Amazing.
So and we had no idea it was coming, right.
So it's, you know, God, God works the way he works.

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God knows and sees and you know,it, it.
I can't explain that in any other way other than than
another example of my faith. You know, it's, those are true
stories. I'm not, I'm not making those

(01:00:40):
up. Those are, those are true
personal experiences where God has, has, has blessed us.
Yeah, you know, and, and they'reall, if you, if you see the
theme behind it, they're all in acts of faith and they're all

(01:01:01):
in, in the belief that that things will get better.
I don't know how I don't know when I don't know, you know, in
what shape or form or, or anything like that.
But, but those are the stories that have happened in my life

(01:01:24):
that I can, I can speak to personally.
I mean, there isn't, there isn'ta person on the Internet that's
going to convince me otherwise for any other reason, because
I've had those things happen to me and, and, and you can't
dispute the I can't dispute those.
You can't unprove those. Those were not a a hoax.

(01:01:44):
Those were not coincidences. Those are not, you know, random.
He just got lucky in at least inmy belief, you know, we, Jen and
I specifically spoke about sending that money.
We talked about what was doing what, what was going to happen,

(01:02:05):
what was going to be right and that, you know, we were going to
have faith that God would figureit out for us.
And and so, you know, it's, it'sthat kind of belief, that kind
of faith, that kind of action that makes the Bible in my mind

(01:02:26):
real and accurate. Because the stories, the
stories, if if you actually lookat the Bible, then realize it,
it's multiple authors recountingstories like mine about some are
about Jesus and some are about themselves and what they've gone
through and how God worked in their lives.

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Yeah. So I, I can't, I can't say or,
or you know, you're not going topersuade me that that the Bible
is a fiction. You, you're just, you're just,
you're just not because I have too many stories similar to the
people in the Bible that happened in my life, you know,

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and, and I, I just, I've seen, I've seen too many things, you
know, I've seen things, man, youknow, so I don't, I don't know
what to tell other people. I can only speak to what's going
on in my life. And you know, the hardships I've

(01:03:38):
had in my life are usually of myown making of my own, my own
dumb ass choices. And you know the I can't blame
anybody for that, for my choices, right?
I'm a grown ass man. And, you know, we have to make

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choices and, and you have to ownyour choices.
And that's the way it worked. And I think there's a lot of
people out there who want their choices.
They they don't want the responsibility for their
choices. They want, they want to excuse

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away their choices. Oh, well, you know, I'm
triggered by this. So because you triggered me, I
get to slaughter your entire family.
You know, I mean, all that, all that stuff in my mind is
bullshit. That's just kind of my personal,
my personal opinion about, oh, well, you triggered me.

(01:04:44):
Oh, you know, it's not really myfault.
I've got ADHD, you know, I got this, I got that, you know, so
I'm not accountable for anything.
You know, you guys need to take pity on me.
I just, I just don't live in that world, you know, get your

(01:05:05):
ass up out of bed, get your ass up out of the house.
Go out and take responsibility for your life and, and do what,
what, what you need to do to make things work and have faith
in God, that God loves you and that God wants the best for you
and that you have to, you know, do something, you know, and, and

(01:05:32):
that's one of the funniest things that Damian would told me
in construction. And I still say it to this day
could be a lot because sometimes, you know, I've got, I
got memory issues and I got, I, I just, you know, I have some
mental handicaps. Just, you know, in my, in my, I
don't read very well. I'm not going to be a scholar,

(01:05:52):
right, Mike, I, I am not going to be an English teacher.
You don't want me grading your papers, you know, that sort of
thing. But you know, he, he, it was
funny because sometimes like I, I, I go and I work all day and,
and do something. And, and then I'd come back the
next day and I'd be like, damn, how do I do this?

(01:06:14):
And, and I'd be standing there and he'd come up and go, damn
it, Mitch, just do something, even if it's wrong, Do
something, you know, in other words, stop standing there.
Take action, Move forward. You can't just stand there,
frozen in in in time or in life or or in whatever phase you're

(01:06:34):
in, man. Move forward with the best
intentions, with the best attitude you can muster, with
the best plan you can come up with based on your situation at
the time, and move forward. Do something.
Even if it's wrong, do something, because doing nothing

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will get you nowhere fast. So I disagree though, because
British say do nothing. Yeah, even Christians say be
still and know that I am. And and Dallas.
Taking that, that, that, that, that Christian one, you're
taking out of context. That is not what it means by be

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still, that is not what it meansat all.
That's completely out of context.
It does not mean not do anything.
What it what it means is be still in your heart.
Be still without worry. Be still without fear.
Know that I am and that I have the best intentions for you.

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That's what it means. It does not mean be still and
frozen and do nothing. That is not.
That is completely inaccurate. That's not what it means.
OK. I'm sorry, but that's not what
it means. So when it's.
Saying do still like something in your thinking though, because

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I'm like, well, it looks like there were ancient writings that
were used and they were rewritten and and that's what
the Bible really is. But in your mind that goes
straight to, Oh, you don't believe in God, You don't
believe in Jesus. It's like.
No, no, no, no, that's, that's that's not what I'm saying.
I'm just pointing out that the structure of the Bible, the, the

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way you made it sound to me, maybe I misheard it, but the way
you made it sound to me is that this, that, that the Bible is
this big novel written about a guy named Jesus.
And, and what I'm trying to say it by, by an author like Stephen
King or, you know, whoever, right, by some famous author

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wrote a book about a character, you know, whoever wrote Jack
Ryan or James Bond or, you know,written by Ian Fleming about
this character, you know, and instead of calling him James
Bond, they called him Jesus, right?
And he goes on all these adventures.
And that's not how it's written at all.
The Bible is not written by one person.

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The Bible is written by multiplepeople.
And it's their personal eyewitness accounts of what they
saw in their lifetime, because that's how they recorded stuff
at that time in the world, right?
Just like I was telling you my personal and I was telling you
my stories as an eyewitness account of of what happened.

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But you can, you know, you couldprobably go back and find a
movie and say, oh, that's straight out of this movie,
blah, blah, blah, blah, right? That was before that happened.
But that doesn't mean what I said and how it happened didn't
happen. Yeah, it doesn't mean it didn't
happen. It just means that there was a
story about it happening, you know, in a, in a, in a story,

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but it still happened. There was me, Keith, and at
least two other people, I think one or two other people in the
car. So there was four of us there.
We all thought, yeah, you know, and, and so, you know, it's
it's, and I'll be telling that story to, to give an account of,
of how the Bible is, is, is written.

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And so that would be a story theway the Bible's done is that
would be a story in Mitch, the book of Mitch.
And when I talk about faith. The Book of Mitch.
Yeah. So in the book of Mitch, in the
in, you know, Mitch, let's see, that would have been 19.

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That would have been like 19 in the book of Mitch 1999, let's
say. I don't remember exactly what
year it was, but in the book of Mitch, chapter 1999 in this
chapter regarding faith, it demonstrates that a true, you

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know, a, a person with, with true intentions and, and putting
all their faith in God, you know, things can work out, you
know, so, so, so that was my story of faith, right?
And, and, and that's how the Bible's written.
It's, it's people like me and you just common people.

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They even point that out in the Bible.
They say these are just everydaypeople.
These aren't anointed or or elected scholars that that are
Speaking of us, you know, and their worldly scholarly, you
know, insight. These are common people.
These are tax collectors. These are these are just

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everyday. These are fishermen, right?
These are, these are brothers who've spent their life fishing,
you know, catching fish and, and, and that sort of thing.
They're, they're, you know, at that time that's the setting.
Jesus was a Carpenter, right? So these are just common people.
And, and so, you know, and that's my story, right?

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I'm just a common guy. I'm a, I'm a contractor.
I'm a Carpenter, you know, I, I build stuff.
I'm not a worldly. I said that earlier, right?
I am not an English major. I am not a scholar.
You can attest to that. I got, I got a witness here,
Mike, that's going to tell you that I didn't go out and read
this somewhere, right? You know, that's not who I am.

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These are personal, real life things that I that I witnessed
in the book of Mitch and and youknow, everybody has to see that
for themselves. But that's how the Bible is
written. The Bible is, is eyewitness
accounts just like mine. And and you know, the millions
of other people on this planet who have witnessed and gone

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through their book, personal books of things in their lives.
Now, has everybody had things like that happen?
No, but you know, they're not everybody, you know, is acting
on faith. Not everybody is verbally saying
I'm going to take this leap of faith at whatever, right?

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And and you things don't always work out in the timing that we
want to work out. That's one thing the Bible
teaches us. You know, that is, that is one
thing that the Bible teaches us is, is there's our timing and
there's God's timing and they are not on the same clock.

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So, so you know, it's, it's, youknow, I don't, I don't know what
to tell people. I can only tell you my book, my
story. And you know, that I've seen God
move. I've seen God do things for me
that that I didn't deserve, thatI don't well, that I feel I

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didn't deserve. I've seen him put me in
situations where I've been able to do good and help people.
You know, this just the list goes on and on.
And you know, I don't know if I'm making the right decisions.
I, I make all my choices with the best intentions and I use

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my, my religious beliefs to guide my decisions.
You know, I, I do do that and, and, but I don't, I still have a
base route of right and wrong. And I think everybody has that
regardless of whether you're religious.

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But you know, I, I, I can't, youknow, I can't speak to these
other people other than clearly they haven't had God or they've
missed where God has moved in their lives.
They were blinded, you know, they were Third Eye Blind, you
know, however you want to look at it.
You know, they didn't recognize,you know, God moving in their

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lives and stuff. But you know, I can look back on
my life now and see the path that I went on and know that I,
you know, if God hadn't moved inmy life in certain certain
point, in certain times, I wouldnever be where I am today doing
what I'm doing, living with the wife I'm living with and have

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the family that I have. And you know, it's, it's not all
my decisions were good. You know, they, you know, I'll,
you know, I'll tell everyone here, right?
I was, I was arrested in front of my kid when they were two of
them, when they were like whatever, 3 and you know, like

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whatever four and five or three and four or something like that,
right? What kind of dumb ass father
does that? You know, I mean, I'm not proud
of it, but I can use that as a testimony of, of, of, of how God
worked in my life. And you know, I was, I was

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looking at serious jail. That prosecutor wanted to put me
in prison. No one was hurt, no one was
hurt. It was just a a Fender Bender on
the freeway. Yeah.
But that prosecutor wanted to put me in prison.
You know, I was looking at serious prisons.
Yeah. You know, and, and, and you

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know, this grace of God in the mercy, you know, that particular
prosecutor got put onto a murdercase and had to hand my case
over to a different prosecutor. You know, and based on I was
not, I had been drinking, but I was not over the legal limit.

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So I had alcohol in my system, which is, you know, not good to
drive two kids, but I wasn't, I wasn't slobbering drunk or
anything like that. I just had alcohol in my system.
I was not over the legal limit or anything.
But people don't understand thatthat having any, if you get an
accident and you have any alcohol, even a sip, and it

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registers in your system, that'sa DUI driving under the
influence. Yeah.
And that's what happened to me. But instead of going to prison
and losing my kids and, and all of that, you know, I just had to
do some, I think I had to do community service and, you know,

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go into a A and, you know, and all that kind of stuff.
But you know, those are all events.
And then I had to live with that.
I had to live with that incident.
For for a. Very long time.
I mean, Julia, that traumatized her.

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The reason, the reason I know that is, you know, a little
while later I'm in Home Depot picking up some lumber and I got
Chad and Julia with me and, you know, they're swinging across
the lumber rack. You know, the orange, you know,
the lumber rack, you know, they would turn it into a playground
because I was such a great father.
I was, I was, I was the father with, you know, the kids running

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loose and free in Home Depot. That that would be me.
You know, I, I, I, I was not thebest father.
Mike's a lot better dad than I was.
And my first kids, I got better because Jen came in my life.
You're like a super dad now, though.
But you were. Well, yeah, Dad too.

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Yeah, well, I was there, but I wasn't there.
But anyway, Julia's, I still remember this vividly.
So we're in the lumber aisle, right?
And Julia's, like, hanging like a monkey from one of those
orange arms that hold the lumberup, right.
And she's swinging underneath there and she's all like.
Daddy. You know, 'cause I'm, I'm like 2

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piles down, right? But she's not even like, like
right next to me, but she's right there, you know, and she's
like, daddy, remember when you got arrested and it just
amplified all over Home Depot? And this is like on a Saturday
or something? You should have seen all the
women turn around and just blastme with their laser eyes.

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I was I was like, I was like theonly live flesh in a zombie
movie at all. You know, they were all out to
kill me, you know, and and and, you know, and that that was a
real like, oh, shit moment, you know, look what I did, you know,

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talk about getting called out. Now.
Is that Julia's fault that she said that did that?
Absolutely not. You can't blame a four or five
year old for telling the truth. That's the beauty of kids.
They tell it like it is. Dumb ass got arrested in front
of your kids, you know, and, andand now that's, that's like the

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stories in the Bible, right? That's what the stories in the
Bible talk about. They don't just tell you all the
all the fluffy good stuff. You know, everything is going to
be OK. Let me touch your head and you
know, Doo Doo Doo, you know, they say no, there is hardship,
there is accountability. There is, there is, you know,
responsibility for your actions and you know, and that and that

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that was one of those things. Am I going to blame God for
that? No, man, I need that choice.
I'm I made the decision to do that.
That's, that's not because I gotADHD and you know, I was
triggered by Santa Claus and youknow, whatever the bullshit
that, that, that people throw out there, I, I made a choice.

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I made a mistake. I have to live with that mistake
and I have to learn from that mistake.
And you know, that was God allowing me to learn from my
mistake, not rescuing me from mymistake.
But you know, the he, he, he didshow grace and mercy on me in

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that case. But you know, so I, I, you know,
I don't, I don't know how to explain it to any other people.
I don't, I don't, I don't know how to, I'm not going to sit
here and try and convince you that that guy online that you,
that you watched is right or wrong.
You know, I, I personally, I don't even care about him.
I'll probably go back and try and find the video just because

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I'm intrigued by, by, by what you saw.
I didn't see it, but you know, that's not going to it's not
going to shake my face in, in what I've seen and how I've seen
God work in my life and the stuff I'm saying, you know, I'm
not a liar. You know me as a person.
I didn't I'm not making none of this up, You know, and, and, and

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people can say the Bible is fake.
People can say that God isn't real.
People can say that, you know, Jesus didn't perform miracles,
but I've seen it in my own lifetime.
You know, I've seen it in my lifetime.
And and so you're not you're notgoing to convince me.

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All I can say is people that doubt are the people that have
missed God's miracles in their life because either they were
like you would say Third Eye Blind, or because they were too
busy, you know, giving credit tofalse idols, which is happened a

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lot to the Bible. That's one of the things that
the Bible is about. It constantly talks about people
worshipping false idols and how there's a time of prosperity,
but then that prosperity dies because the idols are false and
God withdraws his favor and leaves man to his own

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consequences and and you know, steps out of his life.
And it's not until in the stories of the Bible that that
man comes back to God and asks for, for forgiveness, admits his
his dumb ass mistakes and, and ask God to be involved in his

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life, that the stories turn around in the Bible.
And that's all, that's all the Bible is.
It's people's first account. Like I just did, like I just did
for the last 5000 hours, howeverlong I've been talking, that's
all, that's all the Bible is. That's all It's personal
accounts of how God has made a difference in people's lives.

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And it shows that when they act without God or without faith or,
or, you know, take things into the and they, you know,
sometimes we don't see our mistakes when we're making them.
We may know deep down, like I knew not good to drink a can of
beer and then get in the car anddrive, but I'm also well, one,

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you know, one beer, it isn't going to do anything to me.
And, and, and that's true, but Istill got in an accident.
I still, you know, had that happen and I still had to face
the consequences of that decision.
And, you know, by God's grace, you know, I didn't go to prison,
but I didn't get off Scott free either.

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Because here we are, you know, over 20 years later, I mean, 25
years later, however many years ago that that was.
And I'm still living with the guilt, I'm still living with
that consequences of that choice.
But now I turn that choice into a positive example of how, of

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how God, God has been in my life.
I, I stopped drinking, right? I don't, I don't drink, You
know, my youngest child, Amber has never seen me drink, you
know, drink or smoke or anything, you know, and and my
other, my other kid grew up in abeer bar, you know, so.

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Sorry I was trying to make this.A stupid joke.
Oh well, go ahead and make it now.
I'm sorry I talked over you. I was going to say yeah, I feel
so bad for you now that you're not drinking.
Yeah. Oh, there are.
There are kinds when you're like.

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Yeah, so I'm sorry I occupied. Oh, no, that's OK.
Most of this. So the final words like Billy,
so actually Alex Jones, Billy Carson's been everywhere,
though. He's like enormous right now.
And he has his own channel and network and like, I don't know
what, but Alex Jones is a super Christian.

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He's like mega Christian. And he had Billy Carson on the
show. And so Alex Jones said to him,
well, so you're saying the stories of the Bible come from
outside sources? And Billy Carson was like, yeah.
And and Alex Jones said, but those stories are still true
though, right? And he said, yeah, they were

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just rewritten for the Bible. So there, there's, there is a
lot of those stories, like you said, I witness accounts and
stuff like there's probably truth in them.
It it is also like you said though, you know, if if you're
like, I know there's a God and then someone 1000 years later

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finds that you wrote that, that doesn't necessarily mean that
you were right, you know, but yeah, that's Alex Jones was
like, OK, well, I'm a Christian and you're saying the Bible was
put together by with other stories, but those stories that
they use, they're real demonstrating the existence of
God, right. So, so the Bible is still true

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is what Alex said and that Billysaid that too.
Billy was like, yeah, the stories in the Bible are true
that, but they are taken from out outside sources.
So. So I don't, I don't, I don't
know what what outside sources means, but.
You know, well, like from Gnostic writings he actually
goes through in that video that I sent you, he showed you the

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tablets themselves that the stories from the Bible were
lifted from. Yeah, OK.
Well, I, I, I, I can't, I can't speak to that, obviously.
But like I said, I can speak to how God's moved in the book of
Mitch. Yeah.
And you know, and you know, I'm not, I'm not lying.

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I'm not, I can tell you God is real.
I can tell you that, that, that he has moved countless times in
my life. And you know, that doesn't mean,
you know, I'm not some rich guy sitting on the castle talking
about how everything's all good.You know that that is not my
life by any means, right? I mean, I've got, I've got kids

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with illnesses, not one kid, multiple kids, right?
I've got my, my wife, we've talked about the struggles,
right? And she just had a, a nine hour
brain surgery, you know, last month.
So, so I am not sitting here talking about how, how life is
so easy and, and and you know, you know, all's roses and

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everybody's happy, happy joy, joy and, you know, all that
crap. You know, that's life's hard.
Oh God, yeah, life's life's not easy.
Life's not fair. You know, you know, people, drug
addicts have kids that are perfectly healthy and then

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mothers that are do everything right during the pregnancy, have
kids with illnesses. You know, it's just, it's, it's
just not fair. So I'm not, I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying that your chances of having a better and
more fruitful life, in my opinion, come when you, when

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you, when you in your heart accept Jesus and when you
believe in God and when you act like a Christian and not a
selfish bastard, right? That is a photograph of me.

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That is, that is, that is not what I meant, because I know
I've I say this to people about you all the time.
You're one of the nicest and most giving and caring
individuals I've ever met in my life.
So, so so you know, you are not a a a vicious or or menacing or

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I'll intended you're you're you're probably the extreme the
other way. You know, and and you know, you,
you are a very, very kind and generous and and and good
hearted individual. Yeah, thank you.

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I've, I've said that many times to people about you and I said.
I just said it to. Like I think Mom, last night or
yesterday, I can't remember. Maybe it was Chuck.
I don't know. I was talking to someone and I
said that about you. That's nice dude.
Thank you. You're the only.
Person on the earth, he's nice to me, so I'm grateful to hear

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that. I guess.
Guess my son is nice to me. My cat is nice to me too, so.
Yeah, see, you're not alone and and God loves you no matter what
you think, so don't you fret none so.
Yeah, no, I totally, you know, I've had experiences too, and I

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I none of what I always. I just thought it'd be something
to talk about on the show, to behonest.
But none of what we've been talking about.
I know for you, you've made thatclear.
But for me too, takes away from my belief in God, though.
I mean, I know that, like you said, I know there's a guide
because I've seen stuff like what you saw.

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So. But yeah, that's sort of
separate from like how the Biblemight have been put together.
But I believe in God. I believe in Jesus, I, I bless
Jesus every day and and some other gurus and Saints and
ascended masters I bless during the day and stuff too.
So, so none of this has to do with our faith in God.

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I think both Mitch and I have like tremendous faith in God.
So. Yeah, and I, I just, you know,
even if this, you know, maybe the pot, maybe the, the meth
head chick will sober up, stop doing math and, you know, open
the book, open the Bible and, you know, maybe it'll touch her
and and you know. Her, her, her.

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Life can turn into something, you know, positive and, and, and
that sort of thing. I don't know, but you know, I'm
going to put it out there and I'm glad that it's on the
podcast. I'm glad the stories are on the
podcast. It was something.
To talk about, right? Yeah, God, God, God does that

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right. You know, just goofing around,
having a conversation, that's all.
Just something to talk about, you know?
Yeah, well, this is that's what this show is about, right?
This is we're just, we're just two guys having a conversation
and we're letting the world listen to our conversation.
Yeah, that's it. Just two great old friends and
brothers just yammering with with you have you have total

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honesty and total sincerity on on our show.
It's unscripted. And like you just said, it's a
two guys talking, you know, in ain America.
Yeah, we're, we're, we're for two Americans just hanging out.
This is welcome to America. Yeah, for as long as it's here,

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So if you were going to come seethe Paradise now, actually I
wouldn't recommend any tourists visiting America right now.
Would do you agree with that? Yeah, yeah.
Probably not the best, not our proudest moment in history.
No, yeah, this. We are not set up for tourism
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