"Aftershocks & Alliances: Navigating Political Turbulence"

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What do you want to do tonight?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
The same thing we do every night.
Pinky, try to take over theworld.
All right, yo, let's get intoit.
Try to take over the world,you're preaching freedom.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Try to take over the world.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
And bring Chaplin in the world, try to take in the
world, trying to take over theworld.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, we areback.
It is Sunday at 830.
Man, do you know where yourpogues are?
Of course you do.
We are back in the lab foranother Sunday and, man, it is

(00:45):
dark.
Let me try to see if we can getsome lighting going on in here.
We got everything going on.
I am back by the skin of myteeth.
It's your boy, kj Bradley, andthe world's greatest chaplain,
mr Lance O'Neal Chappy.
What up, man?
How you doing this week,brother?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Good, uneventful.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Can't think of anything that happened eventful
I know, man, if only, if onlythis administration is so boring
man they just huh.
If only they would give ussomething to talk about either
way oh, you know what's?

Speaker 1 (01:12):
what's funny about that is I think I told you this
after the election.
I had a friend who's a uh whitefemale who went all in on the
uh anti-trump like she.
She would post stuff onlinethat was just blatantly false,
blatantly untrue, and then shewas just it's so horrible.

(01:34):
I have to deal with this now,blah, blah, blah.
And I'm sitting there going.
If you are this emotionalbecause of the person that's in
the White House for like threedays, step away from the
keyboard.
You need to turn your computeroff, go be with your kids and
stop worrying about it becausewe are three days in.

(01:55):
So I mean, there's stuffobviously that's going to affect
us down the road.
Sure, Good and bad, We'll seehow it all turns out to to react
like that after a couple ofdays.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
just I don't know you may have she may have been she
may have been a suit sale withthe way everything's going.
To be honest with you, let'sjump into it.
Man, we got a lot to talk about, a little bit time to get it
into all right.
So the first topic on hand yougot president number 45,
president number 47 andpotentially president number 48.

(02:30):
So what we found out this week?
Yeah, so what we found out thisweek that POTUS said that he is
not ruling out a third term.
So his goal?
We initially it was brought upand they was like, oh, he's just
, it's rhetoric, it's rhetoric,it's rhetoric.
One thing we've learned so farthis administration is, if you

(02:52):
hear more than once, it's notjust, it's not just rhetoric.
Um matter of fact, I believe inthe interview he was quoted as
saying I'm serious, I don't know, he's like it's too early to
tell, but I'm considering it andI'm like all right, cool, I got
you.
So what are your thoughts onopening the doors up?

(03:12):
I mean, obviously it's.
You know, he's going to need,he's going to need congressional
approval first and then he'sgoing to need the states to
ratify it at least 38, 39, Ithink, to even get a shot at it.
But when you got the Senate inyour pocket, and you got the
House in your pocket and you gotthe SCOTUS in your pocket.
I'm not putting it past them toat least try.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
That's not why Three words.
First word unconstitutional.
You just covered it right,You've got to change the
Constitution.
We can't get the statestogether and say it's a bad
thing to kill babies, Okay, sothat one.
But this is the more importanttwo words If you change the

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Constitution so that he can runa third term.
Those two words are BarackObama.
Barack Obama beats Trump.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Handedly.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
He just does.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I don't think POTUS wants the smoke.
So the way the framework worksis the way or, hypothetically,
if the administration were towar game it from, what I
understand is they would writeit so as you can seek a third
term as long as your two termsaren't back to back, and that

(04:37):
would essentially disqualifytheir greatest threat.
But then again, to be honestwith you, I don't know if the
Obamas will be interested indoing that the third time.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I do, I do.
I think the Obamas are as muchpower.
Here's the thing that we'vetalked about this Anybody who's
president is a narcissistic,power hungry monger, right you
have to be To want to activelygo and become the President of

(05:07):
the United States to run thepolitics of it.
To get to that point, you haveto believe you are the greatest
person in the world to be ableto sit down and be I'm the only
one who should be in this seat.
That's not, and again, that'sjust how it is.
I don't care if that was Trump,I don't care if it was Obama, I

(05:32):
don't care if it was Romney orMcCain or Reagan or Kemp.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Right, they all think that because, in large part,
you have to be fair, theRepublicans have stayed out of
the limelight, though, unlesscalled upon, like they
reluctantly come out to endorsepeople, but politically they've
they've kind of kept theirdistance.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I don't know, I think .
I think it's very much likeClinton when he left.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh, no, no, no, no, you're talking about the Obamas
and the Clintons.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
No, no, what I'm saying is I think the Clintons
worked behind the scenes.
Now, part of it was becauseHillary was actively trying to
become president and MichelleObama isn't.
But I think there were a lot ofkissing the ring, going back to
the Obamas and saying, hey,what should we do?
Who should we?
I think the Obamaadministration or the Biden

(06:25):
administration was, and it'sfine.
I don't necessarily have aproblem with it because it's
just how it works, but I thinkthe Obama administration was
basically Eighty 90 percent ofthe Biden administration.
Like all the people are right,I think the people of the Biden
administration were much moreloyal to Barack Obama than they
were to Joe Biden and the party.

(06:47):
Of course, the Tammany Hall.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I'll give you the party, but I'll give you the
party.
But Biden had his own people.
Matter of fact, I believe insome.
Well, no, they came out with.
They came out with.
I can't remember the art artauthor right now, but I remember
reading the biography about allthat.
And then they asked him aboutthe endorsement, about the Biden

(07:10):
endorsement.
At first Barack was hesitant toendorse Biden because he had
screwed him over with theHillary thing and they weren't
really on good terms.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well, he wanted to wait until the primary played
out.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
No, no, I'm talking about the Biden.
I'm talking about when Bidengot elected.
In what?
2020?

Speaker 1 (07:33):
That's what I mean, though Obama waited until Biden
broke free of the PAC.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh yeah, you're right .

Speaker 1 (07:42):
And the question there would be did Obama make a
few phone calls and say, hey, weneed to support Joe?

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, he had.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I think there's high likelihood it's so.
It's.
It's all those stories andwhispers you kind of hear about
Kobe and Shaq, or Carl Maloneand Kobe and the Lakers, or
whatever team, right, Whateverteam you follow, you always hear

(08:18):
there's whispers about those.
Oh, there's these stories thathappen behind the scenes, but
nobody.
Oh man, if you only knew, ifyou only knew.
It's like you don't knowbecause nobody's going to talk.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Now, take that as an MBA level to the presidency, so
you don't even hear.
I don't know.
This administration seems totalk a lot.
You just got to get in theright chat groups, apparently to
get all the head start.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Well, but again you look at what happens.
Usually it's not done untilafterwards and it was such a
breach of decorum.
Again I go back to Mark Esper'sbook and what he wrote about,
what he did to basicallyundermine 45.
Normally you don't see bookslike that.
They don't come out and say,hey, these are the inner
workings, this is what wasreally good.
Mattis my guess is Mad DogMattis could probably write a 52

(09:14):
to 100 week on the bestsellerNew York Times list Easily by
writing a book that says my timein the White House Easily Right
.
Why doesn't he?
Because he's got the decorum tosay what happens in the White
House is between me and thepresident and it's not for

(09:35):
fodder.
So again, here's the other sideof that argument.
As far as the terms go To me,if I'm a lawyer for the Obamas,
let's say Barack Obama wants torun again.
If you get that change, All hehas to do is say well, wait a
minute.
So I just had my first two andnow I want my third because it's

(09:57):
split.
So Trump is saying he wants histwo split and then the second
one on the back end Show me why.
One's other than the differentright.
So I, I just I understand thethought of, if they say it, it
might be true.
But you know what I could sayover and over and over and over

(10:17):
something that is just kind ofin my brain that I like to bring
up whatever it is doesn't makeit true, doesn't make it gonna
happen.
I am actively, I'm just KJ, I'mjust putting it out there, I'm
just putting in the universe,I'm just I'm just wondering what
if?
What if the Dodgers traded forAcuna Jr?
Just I think it could happen?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
what if?
No, no, no, see, we can't dothat.
No, no, we can't do that.
No, no, we can't do that.
Here's the difference, right,you can say that Because you're
worried that might happen.
No, no, no.
You can say that, but you haveabsolutely no bearing on that.
As President Trump, who has theDOJ in his hand and let's be
clear, pam Bundy is far fromimpartial she's do whatever

(11:03):
potus tells her.
So if potus says, hey, yeah,well, besides the point, what
I'm the point I'm making is ifpotus goes to pam and says, hey,
find a way to make this happen,she's gonna explore and that
that's just what it is you know.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
So she's gonna come back and say the only way to do
it is to get a constitutionalamendment passed.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
I don't know we can push for it to get a
constitutional amendment passed.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I don't know.
We can push for it, but it'sjust not going to happen.
Okay, let me ask you this IfBarack Obama had gone to Eric
Holder and asked the samequestion, do you think Eric
Holder would have said no, I'mnot going to look into it.
No, I understand you're asking,but no.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
No.
But again you compare.
The character of Barack Obamaand the character of Donald
Trump are two different things.
Here's where that matters.
It doesn't matter, no, no, no,that matters.
And I'm going to tell you whyit matters.
Because when Eric Holder comesback to Barack Obama and says
hey man, the only way you can doit is if you get Congress to do
it and then the states to do it, barack Obama says, all right,

(12:01):
cool, it's a constitutionalthing.
Barack Obama says, all right,cool, it's a congressional, it's
a constitutional thing.
My hands are tied, right.
But what you have, what youhave found in this
administration, is, even if PamBundy got a conscious and was
able to say hey, look, it's aconstitutional thing, our hands
are tied, this POTUS is notgoing to, it's not going to be
done with it.
This POTUS is going to sayconstitution, be damned, find me
a way, and he's proven it.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, I mean, we shouldn't be damned, find me a
way, and he's proven it.
Well, I mean, we can disagreebut I mean, they've proven it
time and time again.
I don't think they have, andhere's why I say that there's a
difference between sayingsomething and doing something.
And the reason I say that hewon't is very simple.
Forty five, we had all this.

(12:43):
We had all the same rhetoric.
No, when he got elected thefirst time you got to stop that.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
45 and 47 are two totally different reigns.
It's just not you can't.
You can't.
It's not 45.
Listen, 45 had mechanisms inplace, right?
45 had people in positions towhere they was like, hey man,
this is a no-go Stop.
So no matter how hard 45 pushed, he couldn't get it through.

(13:11):
Whereas in this administrationhe learned and he put the people
in place.
Who's not going to tell him no,they're going to tell him let's
go, let's see how far we canpush, but that's what when we
compare the range?
But that's what.
I'm saying, when you compare therange of 45 and 47, it's
completely different, becausethe stopgaps and the protections
that were there for 45 to keephim from being an absolute

(13:33):
lunatic, are not there asPresident 47.
They're just not there.
Sure, they are.
Sure they are.
By who?
By who?
Who in the administration doyou believe is going to stand up
to the president?
Who?
The Supreme Court of the UnitedStates?

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Oh, come on, man.
Hey, you cannot tell me.
You can't look at the judgmentsthat have come across in the
last year and go oh, the SCOTUSis in the pocket of the
Republicans in the right.
We've seen time and time againyes, yes, I absolutely can.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
You have empirical.
All right, it's one thing todispute opinion, but we have
empirical evidence.
Man, we're not talking aboutyeah, we're not talking about,
you know well, we're not talkingabout Braves and Dodgers
winning the World Series, man,we're talking about facts, man.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
The only way.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Well, the fact is, the vast majority of decisions
by the Supreme Court have been 7to 2 or higher, which has
absolutely nothing to do withthe tea in Indonesia, right?

Speaker 1 (14:33):
now?
Sure, you were just talkingabout history.
You were just saying we've seenwhat he's doing and what are
the stopgaps?
Here's the other one.
What is the only?
Okay, let's go.
Let's war game what you justsaid?
Sure, sure, let's go.
Okay, the only way to get thisdone is a constitutional

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amendment.
Correct, absolutely Okay.
Right now, and you're saying andyou're saying, even if Trump
says F it, I'm staying in and,Constitution be damned, we'll
change it.
So we're actually going to takethat next step towards a

(15:15):
because he's not fascist, buttowards a he's not.
Well, what I mean is becausefascism is a very specific thing
and people throw that word out.
He's not a fascist, Okay, buthe is a, what we've talked about
.
He's a narcissist.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
You're struggling to find a word to describe it
without saying what he is A softif it went down that path.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
A soft dictatorship, let's say that Soft dictatorship
.
Well, sure, sure, because youstill, he's still, he's still
going to be under the guise ofsaying, hey, there's still a
democracy, blah, blah, blah.
It's not going to be fullmartial law, except if it goes
full martial law.
And that's my point.
The only way to do this, andthe only way to do it, is to

(16:02):
take control of the military ina way that it is and people use
the word again.
They say it's a coup.
It's not a coup If you'realready in office, you're
consolidating power and thenyou're using the military to
stay in power.
That's not a coup.
That is the beginning of adictatorship, right, okay?
So if he were to go down thatpath, I firmly believe that the

(16:29):
military writ large would notsupport that.
You might have some.
I just think you would have toomany people you could have.
Let's say you had half half ofthe general officers go along
with that.
Let's say Well, the other halfsay it, no way in hell.

(16:50):
Right, and I think the loweryou go to the officer corps, it
gets even wider.
30% say no, we're not doingthat, or I mean I'm sorry.
30% say we're supporting this.
70% say no.
You get to the senior enlisted.
It's 2080.
You get down the juniorenlisted and they're going.

(17:10):
We don't know what do we do.
And the senior NCOs the seniorwe've talked I have had this
discussion with friends notabout Trump, but about previous
situations right, the averagesenior you know this because you
were an average senior NCO theaverage senior NCO is going to

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go.
There is no way in hell.
I'm going to do this becausethat is unconstitutional.
I don't care what they say, Idisagree.
I know it's unconstitutional.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I disagree extremely, because I was.
We happened to serve at thepleasure of the president when
Barack Hussein Obama was electedand, being in those trenches
and hearing those conversations,I can tell you emphatically
that there is enough support andgroundswell behind Trump If he
says hey look, I need your helpto make sure that I am president

(17:59):
for the rest of my life.
There is just enough.
There is just enough idiocracyin society to make that happen.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Are you saying that in the conversations you had in
those trenches, people weresaying, hey, if Obama wants to
stay in, I'm there?

Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, no, no, no.
What I'm saying is in the no.
What I'm saying is there wasenough idiocracy for people in
uniform to say dumb stuff aboutagainst a POTUS who was in
president, A POTUS who was incharge.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
This guy's an idiot that you had him say as an idiot
.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
This guy's an idiot, right.
Well, not just that, not justthat, not just that.
And you know I'm not going todo this and you know I don't
care what he says and this, that, that.
And somebody said, even to thepoint to where they would openly
be discussing and we're talkingabout in a top right, openly

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discussing the, the simulatedassassination and what would
happen to a president.
So I've seen, I've seen theidiocracy of society.
So it would not be, it wouldnot, it would not get past me
that if POTUS was to call on hisminions and say, hey, look, we
need to keep this 430, and thisis how he's going to play it,
he's going to make up some storyabout the Democrats trying to
take over and the only way tosave the republic is going to be

(19:16):
him.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Okay, here's why I disagree, and then we'll move on
to the next one.
Here's why I disagree.
We both I'm sure I know I havehave heard story after story,
planning session after planningsession we're going to jump the
first sergeant.
The first sergeant is just aPOS, this guy man, somebody

(19:38):
needs to teach him a lesson, andwe're going to do it.
How many first sergeants do youknow that were attacked?
I know zero, because it's thisSoldiers doing this and I think
even the average American Now atthe same time, like who got
shot at twice here in the lastelection.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I don't know my man.
Regardless.
Yeah, and the dictatorialleader, and there's a lot, but
it also goes back to the countryFascists are.
The fascist leader gets hispower from the homeland.
I am America itself.
I am Germany.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm glad you brought that up Just this week.
Just this week, a senatorpushed forward a bill in the
House to consolidate the I meannot a senator, a House rep push,
push, try to push forward abill to consolidate.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
That's got your tin hat on.
Sorry, that's got your tin haton.
Doesn't post it.
That's got your tin hat.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't know if it came in the house, but it
definitely didn't hit his earwhat he was shot at, but it
didn't hit his ear.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I've seen the video zoomed in where you literally
see the hole punch up here Lookat his ear.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
His ear is completely regenerated.
It's completely regenerated.
Get the fuck out of here youknow how many it's cartilage.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's cartilage get the.
You know how many it'scartilage stop, stop the bush.
Okay, it's easy.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Stop stop stop, stop, stop.
That man did not get shot inthe ear.
We're not gonna, we're notgonna do that.
That man did not get shot.
He was shot at.
He may have been shot at, buthe was not hitting the ear.
He was not 190 yards, not at190 yards with a rifle.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
And the only thing he got was a wrench.
I think you're absolutely wrong.
I 100% think you're wrong.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
It is not the first time.
It is not the first time.
All right, we have to move on,all right.
So second thing we're talkingabout is measles.
Right, measles is the secondthing we're talking about, and
it's this recent update oroutbreak Do?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
you have the video, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I'm gonna get it queued up right now.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
I saw this.
So, while you're setting thisup, my sister has been in
Comunicado for a while.
She texted me and say hey,here's my number, here's my new
phone.
Don't share it with otherpeople.
Blah, blah, blah Right.
And, by the way, do you have anews source that I can use that
is legitimate for the army,something that's fair for the

(22:18):
military?
And I was like no, I don't knowof any any down the center, but
the reason I say that is I havefound that probably the best
source of getting informationand news is just Twitter, is X,
because you have such a widerange.
I have such a wide range.
That makes a lot of sense.

(22:39):
Well, what I'm saying is,though I get it from dude, I get
some far left loony bins and Iget some far right crazy kins.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
And so I get everything in the middle.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
So what I'm saying is when news comes up and I see
stuff, I'm able to go oh okay,that's interesting.
That's the funny thing aboutthis clip is I've seen this.
I know I grew up on the Bradybunch, right, it was all in
syndication and I knew all allthis stuff.
So it's just interesting that,and you know, just because I'm
on X doesn't mean you know I saythat with the smiley faces I

(23:17):
read I have a subscription tothe New York Times, to the
Washington Post I get.
I'm on Drudge, so I get all thestuff I'm not sitting, I could
tell you.
The funny thing about all thisis I don't go to Fox News.
Like I'm not on Fox News, Idon't watch Fox News.
I don't go to foxnewscom.

(23:37):
The only way I see something onFox News is if it pops up
through Drudge.
Once in a while I guess I couldsee something on X, but rarely.
Most of the time it's morelocal newspapers, which I really
appreciate.
I love local newspapers.
A lot of Substack, Substack'sgreat.
I'm amazed.
Greg Easterbrook man I lovereading.

(23:59):
Shout out to Greg Easterbrook.
If you don't subscribe to GregEasterbrook on Substack for $5 a
month, you are missing out.
We need to get greg on again,because just every week.
I don't always agree with him,but every week there's something
that makes me, makes me think,think about, and it's great.
So hopefully we're doing that'sthe same for you.

(24:21):
But measles, here we go, herewe go what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (24:26):
all from school.
They sent me home.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Measles.
See, their measles are astrange case of red freckles you
have got a temperature.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
They told me 101.1.
What's the record?
Never mind.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Are you sure it's the measles?

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Well, he's certainly got all the symptoms A slight
temperature, a lot of dots and agreat big smile.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
A great big smile.
No school for a few days.
Say hello to my dotted son forme.
Tell him I'll bring him somecomic books and I'll see you
later, dear.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Okay, honey, bye Boy.
This is the life, isn't it?
Yeah, if you have to get sick,you sure can't beat the measles.
That's right.
No medicine, inside or out.
Like shots in me, don likeshots on me.
Don't even mention shots.
Yes, measles, measles, measles.

(25:13):
Well, all the kids have now hadthe measles.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
So have I.
I had them years ago.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Looks like the Bradys are finished with the measles.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Hold it, you're not through yet, alice, don't tell

(25:42):
me you're coming down with themeasles, Wah-wah.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
How have they been vaccinated?
These moms never vaccinatedtheir kids and lied about it.
Vaccines are harmful.
You are endangering the healthof every child in here.
What are you doing?
All from school they sent memeasles.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
See, their measles are a strange piece of measles.
I want to see SUV go in andbust in on Carol Brady.
Why haven't you done that?
What's wrong with you?
Why haven't you vaccinated yourkids?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
So Go ahead.
My esteemed colleague, this isyour thing.
I am definitely pro vaccination, but I will let you know.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
No, I'm absolutely pro-vaccine as well, right?
I do think it's funny, though,that when you're talking about
some of these diseases that,yeah, for us it used to be and
this is not to say again thatyou shouldn't have your kids get
the MMR Absolutely fine.
When people say there's what'sin the mercury, when people say
there's what's in the mercury,oh, there's active mercury in

(26:52):
the vaccines, no, there isn't,it's methyl.
I think it's calledmethylmercury, ethylmercury,
something like that.
It's not toxic.
I do question.
I've had this question and withour oldest oldest we thought
about this when you go in nowand you get all these shots in

(27:12):
kids, it's what?
73 different shots beforethey're five, or something like
that, or 73 not shot, but um,vaccines.
We actually spread ours out.
We did it where we were on acycle where it was much more
spread out and we didn't see adifference as far as her health

(27:33):
goes versus our other kids,because it was one of those
trial things that we tried.
But it's the media part of it,right, everything has to be now
so over the top and, oh my gosh,the measles.
We got to clean everything.

(27:53):
It's the post-COVID that thelessons of COVID haven't been
learned and again, this is notto say that everything that came
out of COVID was bad, like theone thing people have forgotten.
The best thing that came out ofCOVID is hey, wash your hands.
You should be washing yourhands three or four times a day

(28:16):
and I still see people comingout of the latrine without
washing their hands.
It blows me away.
And so yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, andit's just crazy.
I used to laugh because themost common people I saw coming
out of the latrines back in theday were the officers and I just
was like, are you kidding?
I think I've told you thisstory.

(28:38):
I was in the latrine.
This was now, oh gosh, probably12 years ago.
I was a senior NCO Littlereserve unit in Jasper, alabama.
There were two units in thisbuilding and the other unit was
having their drill weekend.
I'm in the latrine finishing upthe urinal and a guy comes out

(29:02):
of the stall.
I finish washing my hands.
He comes out of the stall andgoes right out and I follow him.
I'm literally my hands justwash, my hands, walk out.
I'm like catch the door,because he just opened the door
with those hands.
So I'm like catch the door andI walk out, walk down the

(29:23):
hallway and run.
So about five seconds down thehallway I say hey, soldier, and
he turns around and says yeah,you didn't wash your hands.
He goes well, I used handsanitizer.
Oh, you didn't.
Yeah, you didn't see me do it.
I was like in the hallway.
He goes yeah, I said no, I'vebeen right behind you.

(29:44):
Get your ass back in there andwash your hands.
I think he was an E-5.
And again, I was an E7.
So his, his, uh, ua, the unitadministrator.
Right, the unit administratorcomes in.
He's an E8.
And we're we're friends and hecomes in.
Hey, can I talk to you for asecond?
We kick the guy that shut thedoor.
He's like, hey, uh, that waskind of disrespectful.
We, it's into my, into my son.

(30:05):
I said, oh no, it isn't.
He goes what.
You shouldn't have said that infront of everybody.
It's like, look, if he had saidoh sorry and turned around and
went back, I wouldn't have saidanything about it.
That dude came out of thelatrine, out of the stall,
without washing his hands,touched the door and then lied

(30:25):
to my face about it.
So did I call him out at thatpoint?
Yeah, and I'll do it again.
If you want to have a formationright now for me to apologize,
I will come out and apologizethat I wasn't bigger than that.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Making it a bigger deal.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
That's a big deal.
So this measles stuff.
I really think it's just.
It's very interesting becausethe politics are getting in the
way of it.
Right, the, the Trumpadministration was the one who
came up with the vaccine forCOVID.
Right, which pretty clearlydoes not work the way it was

(31:06):
intended or the way it was sold.
All right, so let's just let'scall it, let's be fair about
that, right.
And the funny thing is, if youremember when that was being
pushed, all the Democrats I'mnever taking anything, I'm not
taking that shot Right, and thenJoe Biden won and suddenly it

(31:26):
was oh, we have to take the top,we have to take.
Now, I don't know what theswitch was.
I think it has something to dowith a certain I don't know
billionaire who had a lot ofpharmacy in his portfolio, maybe
a couple, but that got pushed.
And now we have this pendulumin America, right, and it goes

(31:48):
back and forth.
And now we have RFK Jr who says,well, the pendulum swung so far
here on everything.
Okay, I love my wife.
I have told her this.
When my kids have somethinggoing on something like my son

(32:09):
his foot's kind of hurting.
He's got a blister.
We thought it was a callus.
It's a blister on the ball ofhis foot because he's playing
lacrosse and he's playing soccer.
He's just all the time hecleats.
As you know, soccer cleats havealmost no padding, right.
So it's really been botheringhim.
And my wife was like it'svitamin deficiency.
Like you know, he's not eatingenough of good food.
Okay, cool.
And then my younger daughter,she's been sick and it's vitamin

(32:32):
deficiency.
I was like hey, yeah, yeah,you're right, they probably
don't eat enough.
They don't, they're not doing agood job.
We go outside and the dog goesup the hill and he eats the
grass.
My dog is, since we've got himit's a vitamin deficiency.
And I just I looked at her andsaid not everything is a vitamin

(32:53):
deficiency, like I don't meanto be mean, but it's kind of
like it can't always, that can'talways be the answer right,
because my I'm probably vitamindeficient as well, but I do
pretty well, I'm for a 52 yearold.
I'm 52, but I do pretty well.
I'm for a 52 year old.
52, I think I do pretty well.
Uh, so it's, it's just funnybecause, you know, when you look

(33:15):
at these things and and again,this is, I think it's genetics.
I think we really miss a boat ongenetics because, um, my
mother-in-law passed away now afew years ago.
She had breast cancer and thenshe rang the bell and and, uh,
that weekend she, she had adifferent episode and turned out
she had brain, new brain cancerand it killed her within two

(33:39):
months.
Yeah, so she even rang the bell, cancer-free, and then within
two months she was dead frombrain cancer.
Uh, and this woman she was.
She worked for a chiropractor,she took all the supplements.
She said you know, white breadis, I'm trying to remember, but
it's, if you're dead, if you eatwhite bread, something you know

(34:00):
, one of those little things.
And so she was incrediblyhealthy as far as how she ate
and things, and she died at 60or 60 from from cancer.
So I think that we we areoverreacting with the measles.
I think that we areoverreacting in a lot of ways.

(34:21):
Instead of having what's theway to put it, instead of having
a joe rogan conversationbecause we both know joe rogan
listens to people and he can beswayed by who he's talking to,
right, joe could have a RFKjunior on and be like, oh,
vaccines are going to kill you.
And then the next week he couldhave something on that is a who

(34:42):
, what kind of doctor makesvaccines and vaccination, or
there's, there's word for itthat I'm blanking on.
But he could have somebody elsecome on and be like no, this is
really, this is how the scienceis.
And Joe would be like, oh,that's great, you know, because
Joe doesn't really push back,because Joe's very much a I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Hey, I'm willing to listen to both sides.
If you got facts and I canverify them, then I'm cool with
it.
That's one thing I've beentalking about.
He's great about it.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, but unfortunately he weathervanes
quite a bit based on who's infront of him, how convincing
they are, and I think that'strue of everybody, that's not
just Joe.
I think if we have somebodyhere who has more knowledge than
we do on a subject, we are muchmore likely to listen.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that'sreally.
And then if we had somebodythat had a disagreeing would go
oh, wait a minute.
Oh yeah, yeah, um.

(35:33):
So that's nothing against joerogan at all, yeah, but I just
think that we're we're in that,and this goes for the whole
politics situation we're inright now, let alone rfk juniors
, measles.
We're just in that adjustmentperiod.
We're in that the pendulumswung, um on the biden for the
last four years, swung whateverway you want to call it, right,
left, up, down, and the and thethe administration that's in

(35:59):
charge now wants it to swingback the other way, and this is
where I get worried.
Instead of, you've been to anamusement park.
They all have them.
The big boat ride, right, yep,right.
Never liked that ride.
I think I've ridden it one time.

(36:20):
Didn't like it.
That is not the ride for me,and there's people that like to
be on the edges, so that when itgoes they're not just up.
they're not just up, they're alittle bit upside down looking
down, I don't get it right, butthat's where they have fun and I
think some people are havingfun with this.

(36:41):
I personally- I like to see it.
Hey, you know what?
If it's a nice simple shiftback and forth, cool, we're
going to get that, naturally.
But over the last couple ofdecades we've got to the point
where everything has been so bigand so back and forth, right,
but that there's who whodevelops, and maybe you'll check

(37:04):
it while we're doing this.
What type of doctor developsvaccines and specifically deals
with vaccination?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I don't know the director of the CDC.
He was a highly regardedscientist in these matters and
he decided to resign.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
It was crazy.
Fair enough.
But let me ask you this howmuch, with what has come out now
and what we now know aboutCOVID at all, how much do you
trust what Fauci was saying?
Virologist yes, thank you.
Thank you, pat.
Well, that's a virologist.

(37:52):
It's viral, but is that whatit's called for?
Somebody?
Who has immunizations.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Hold on a sec.
I got you right here, hold on,so we're going to specializes in
vaccines and immunologists.
So let me see if.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I can get that.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
And immunologists.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
That's so bold.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Let me see if I can get that.
Vaccinologists Okay, all right,so no, that seems too simple.
But see, here's the thing Idon't trust Fauci.
Right, I didn't trust Fauci andhad it not been mandated, I
probably wouldn't have gottenthe shot.
Like I said, my kids didn't getthe shot, but with my wife not
being military, and you know,they've stuck us with God knows

(38:37):
only what for the last 20something years.
You know one more shot wasn'tgoing to kill us, or one gun
kill us any faster.
So at the end of the day, itfor me it comes down to a
personal decision.
Now, where I have an issue withis having the right people in
the right positions to makeinformed decisions.
What we have now is a directorof human health services who

(38:58):
says absolutely lunatic levelstuff like oh, black people
don't need immune, don't needimmunizations because their DNA
and their bone density isdifferent, so they're fine.
Or you know he'll say somethingto the effect of oh no, it's no
different.
Getting measles is no differentthan catching a cold.
Everybody should go out and getmeasles.

(39:20):
Probably not the best advice,man, but that's what you get
when you put people who don'tknow any better and who don't
want to listen to those incharge, and if you have a
different opinion than theperson in charge, instead of
listening or at leastrespectfully disagreeing, you
fire them.
And that's one of my biggestpet peeves, in addition to you

(39:43):
know my rate of others with thisadministration.
That's one of the biggest petpeeves I got with this
administration.
Others with this administrationthat's one of the biggest pet
peeves I got with thisadministration.
Not only do you not have peoplewho don't know, they ask from
their appetite excuse mylanguage in this administration,
they're not willing to listento the experts.
Instead of listening to theexperts, they'd rather just fire
them.
That kind of question all initself has issues.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Let me ask you a question what kills more, the
flu or the measles?
What has a higher death rate?

Speaker 2 (40:13):
When You're talking about mortality rate.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Mortality rate.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Over the last 20 years.
I'd probably say the flu, I'dprobably say the flu.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Just in general, if you catch the measles, or if you
catch the flu because if youhave the vaccine you're not
going to get the measles, but ifyou have the measles, what's
the death rate?
What, excuse me, what's themortality rate?

Speaker 2 (40:37):
If you're unvaccinated and you get measles
, versus if you don't get theflu shot and you get the flu,
which one's more likely to killyou?
Is that what you're asking?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Well, regardless you, if you get the flu or you get,
okay.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
So the mortality rate .

Speaker 1 (40:52):
The mortality rate for measles is one to two per
ten thousand.
That's point zero, one percentto point zero, two percent, okay
, one or two for ten thousand.
For the flu, the mortality ratefor 65, now overall I and I

(41:17):
can't see everybody because itdoesn't have breaking down for
everybody.
You know how measles is forkids and blues for older.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
That's what I was going to say.
With the flu, the mortalityrate is different because the
older you get, the moresusceptible you are to not be
able to fight at all, whereaswith the measles, the older you
get, you know, the older you get.
Like if you're, if you're a sixmonth old baby or a six week
old baby, it's going to be moredifficult for you to survive the
measles as opposed to being a13, 14 year old kid.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
So seasonal influence .
The estimated overall mortalityrate linked to influenza is
13.8 deaths per 100,000 peopleeach year.
So cut that down to 10,000.
That makes it 1.38.
1.38 per 10,000.
Right, Measles is 1 to38 per10,000.

(42:12):
Measles is 1 to 2 per 10,000.
So it's almost the same.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, but it's not though, because the measles
doesn't mutate.
The flu changes every season,so the flu is constantly
mutating.
The measles has been the same,and we got to keep in mind that
the measles was essentiallyeradicated.
Matter of fact, I think theydeclared it eradicated a couple
of years ago, so it was done?

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I don't, I don't think so.
Measles has always been onethat's kind of still popped up.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
No, no, they did, but I think the U S declared it,
declared it as done in like 2020or something like that.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Well, they've also declared polio to be gone and
smallpox to be gone.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Well, yeah, but I mean again, you got to add
advice at behest of the HHS.
If these people keep listeningto them, we may see it.
I mean, polio is cool man, it'sretro.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
We should bring that back.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
I'm not against vaccines.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
That said, I think the debate is more about,
because this is what you saidand I agree with this.
For the record, I am 100% withyou.
If the COVID shot hadn't beenmandated, I wouldn't have gotten
it, and my kids and my wifedidn't get it.

(43:36):
Now your wife is differentbecause she's you know right.
I'm with you.
And one of the reasons I didn'tget it was because I think, as
kids, the death rate like earlyon I was following this going.
Why are?
Why is anybody under 50 evengetting this shot?
I don't need it if you're under50, unless you're morbidly
obese.
And so that's where I was goingand I think the argument here

(44:03):
because I've never heard andmaybe I'm wrong, maybe you
haven't, please correct me Ihave never heard RFK Jr or
anybody in the federalgovernment say don't get the,
don't get the polio shot, do notget the measles shot, do not
get these vaccines.
What I've heard is look, you'rethe parent.
This is, this is between youand it, ironically, it's the

(44:26):
abortion argument.
This should be between you andyour doctor, you and your family
, what you want to do you knowthat's, that's that crazy, but
that's that crazy, gotcha,gotcha, right.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
So you'll, you'll, you'll hear, you'll hear the
official statement.
I can't tell you what to do.
You should seek the doctor'sadvice, right, and that's the
official statement of the HHS,right, right, and that's the
official statement of the HHS,right.
But then you'll have all thesesupplemental interviews where
you got RFK Jr saying off thewall, off the wall, like, oh,
measles gives you radiationpoison, or vaccines give you

(45:00):
radiation poison, or you knowsaying something crazy.
So which part do I believe?
Am I supposed to believe?
If I'm listening, but what I'msaying, if I'm already, if I'm
already cynical of thegovernment, right, and the
government says and his officialpost says hey, check with your
doctor, wink, wink Before youget, before you get the vaccine,

(45:20):
to make sure you make aninformed decision.
Right, so that's what he saysofficially.
But then I see all these otherinterviews where he's talking
about oh, vaccines.
Vaccines, you know, cause allthe clouds to piss out silver.
So stay away from you.
Know that just outlandish crazystuff that he does, that he's
prone to say.
Which am I more prone tobelieve?

(45:41):
Am I?
Am I going to sit back and say,well, do I believe him in a
more relaxed setting, where helooks more trustworthy and
comfortable, or do I believe himin an uncomfortable official
capacity, when I already don'tbelieve or trust the government?
Where am I likely to fall inthat believability rate?
And that's where I think wehave an issue, because too many

(46:03):
people are smart enough to knowthat they don't know, but
they're not smart enough todecipher what information is
best.
Right, because RFK has his kidsvaccinated.
Rfk Jr is vaccinated.
Right, everybody in his circleis vaccinated.
And here's where I draw the lineright, what you do with you and

(46:25):
your family.
If you don't want to get asingle vaccination, hell.
If you don't ever want to go tothe doctor in your life, that's
on you.
Where it becomes an issue is ifI have a newborn kid in a
public place who's too young toget the vaccine.
You have, then, taken my choiceout of my hand, right?
So now you have infringed I'vemade this exact argument yes,

(46:48):
you've infringed on my right tomake the decision for me and my
family, and that is not allowed.
Right?
So I'm cool with what you do.
If that's what you choose to do, then you have to.
You know you have to make thatchoice, then what we can't, what
, what you should do and thatgoes back to our, our people,
inherently good conversation,because they're not those people

(47:08):
who are unvaccinated and hadthe measles, they still sent
their kids to fucking school.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Okay, so that's where the catch is right, Because
here hold on, but not evenschool.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
They send them to public places as well too.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
I'm with you.
On the 12-month zone.
Again, I have made that exactargument with you or not with
you, but I've made that exactargument.
Look, if you're unvaccinatedand I'm at the park and your
kid's at the park and he's sixand my kid's under 12, and can't
get under 12 months and can'tget the vaccine, and your kid

(47:46):
isn't vaccinated and is now acarrier, my kid's the vaccine.
And your kid isn't vaccinatedand is now a carrier, my kids
are.
I've made that exact yeah,absolutely OK.
So then the other side isbecause even the Democrats will
say hey, this is between you.
We think you should absolutelyget the vaccine, but it's still
between you and your and yourdoctors.
But here's, here's where to methe other side of the distrust

(48:07):
is to me.
The other side of the distrustis yep, it's between you and
your doctor, but we've set up sothat you can't go to this
school.
You can't be in school if youdon't have the vaccine right Now
.
Here's where the argument andthis was the COVID argument
which was you have to get thevaccine because I'm unsafe.

(48:28):
Wait a minute, you got thevaccine right.
Yes, so you're protected.
Yes, so if I don't get theCOVID vaccine, how does that
affect you?
Like, you're telling me thatyou have your pants on and your
pants are protecting you, right,but if I urinate on myself,

(48:50):
you're going to get, you'regoing to get pee all over you.
Wait, what?
How does how does that work Ifwe're both wearing pants but I
choose to urinate on myself?
That doesn't affect you.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Cool, allow me to bust that theory up for you.
So here's the thing, right?
So here's the thing.
It's not about the children,I'm talking only about urine.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I got you Not airborne.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
It's not about.
There's an efficacy rate.
We know you get the shot of thevaccine.
It's 90% and it's good up until, let's say, 18, 25 years old.
Don't you get a booster in yourteens?
I think so, Like at 12 orwhatever.
Right.
So I'll give you 30.
Right, 30.

(49:33):
So what's the average age ofour teachers?
Take a wild guess.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Average Twenty six.
No, not even close.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Really older.
Yes, yes, forty two, forty two,because young people, young
people aren't getting paidenough to put up with the kids
BS, and the people who've beenteaching have been teaching so
long that they don't want to doanything else.
So you have an older, you havean older pop.
So it's not just about thestudent, and that's where,
that's where these issues tendto get isolated.
Right, they'll say, oh well, ifyou're vaccinated, then there

(50:04):
should be no issue.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
However, comma, there should beno issue.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
However, comma, there has to besome.
There has to be a case forpublic safety.
Right, we can't risk.
We can't risk putting peoplewho are, who are higher risk, at
good because you chose not to,because that at that point,
you've taken the choice out ofeverybody else's hand for

(50:25):
selfish reasons, that's again, Iam all.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
This is devil's advocate.
Is all I'm doing?
Yeah, I'm with you.
So you're arguing for themandatory.
The other side of this, thedevil's advocate side of this
not my side the devil's advocateside of this is if you're 42
and you're higher risk, then yougo get your vaccine and you go
get your measles shot and thenit doesn't matter if the kids

(50:54):
have measles because you'resupposed to be covered, right?

Speaker 2 (51:01):
But you can't make that argument.
How can you?
How can you tell one person, oh, they have to go get it safe
because this person chooses notto get a shot, but you can't
tell that person to go get ashot?
You get what I'm saying, likehow can you mandate one side to
do something, but you're notwilling to mandate the other
side?

Speaker 1 (51:16):
That's the point.
That's the point.
It shouldn't be mandated.
That's kind of the argument.
Should it be mandated or not?
I agree, I agree, but I'msaying that you're saying Right.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
So if you're saying the kid has to be has to be
vaccinated to get into school,and again, if he chooses to go
to a public school where publicfunds are paying for it, he has
to be vaccinated.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Now there are private schools who have their own
rules and he's more than welcometo take those options.
Why?
But this is where this is wherewe get into the meat of the
argument.
You just said, because it's apublic school, right?
Public school meaning they gettheir funding from local, state,
federal, government, right?
So we're talking about apublicly funded, therefore
government institution.

(52:10):
Sure, government controlled,okay, that's right.
That's kind of where theargument becomes is if you're
already distrustful of thegovernment and you don't believe
the government, now again, ifthe idea is, the vaccine works
and even over time it delays,and so you have to get your
booster, you have to get abooster shot for tetanus, you

(52:31):
have to get.
I've had a I, I had my uhshingles shot last year because
I'm over 50, um, you know.
So I, I get all the shots.
The only shot I don't get isthe covid one, because I think
code one did not get tested welland there's too many, there's
too much information out therethat makes me think the COVID-1
actually has a higher likelihoodfor a vaccine injury for me

(52:57):
than others.
Okay, awesome, liberty.
So, but that's where.
So, liberty, let me ask youLiberty, I want a response on
this and we'll let you know whatLiberty says.
Liberty, did you get the vaccineboosters because you agreed to
or because you were told to thatyou had?
On this, and we'll let you knowwhat Liberty says.
Liberty, did you get thevaccine boosters because you
agreed to or because you weretold to that you had to?
Because I think that whenyou're starting to talk about,

(53:18):
let's go back to the teachers.
If the school says to a teacher, hey, you're in your 40s,
you're MMR, you haven't had yourMMR, first of all, schools
don't check the teachers.
I guarantee you they don'tcheck the teacher shots, they
only check the kid shots, right,possibly sure.

(53:38):
Oh, there's no way they checkthe teacher.
You think the teachers union isgoing to let the teachers have
their medical records?
Seen by an administrator, right, because you agreed to Right,
there you go so.
And seen by an administrator,right, because you agreed to
Right, there you go.
So I have no problem withpersonal preference.
I have no problem with anyshots.
As far as the proven vaccines,I think the biggest problem is

(54:01):
when the government getsinvolved with stuff.
Right, and we can kind ofexpand this idea.
And the idea is these vaccinesare basically a chemical
cocktail, and I don't meanchemical in a bad way, I mean

(54:22):
you just have something thatmakes it possible to give you a
shot.
Smallpox was a chemical, thesmallpox vaccine.
They took it out of somebody'sand then they injected you
basically with smallpox, withthe dead virus from the pus.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
It is a chemical thing.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
It's a chemical process that you're injecting
into your body and thegovernment goes this is good,
this is what we should do andwe're protecting you.
If there's a vaccine thatactually has a high rate of TV
and shots, okay, I'm guessingthat's by the state, state by
state.
So I don't know, but I'llbelieve you that.
So, but you have to have thisshot that goes in your body,

(55:04):
right?
And we trust the government.
We trust the government to saythis is good, this is what we're
supposed to do, right.
But the government is so easilymanipulated that back in the
seventies easily manipulatedthat back in the 70s, there was
a chemical that was developed byI believe it was by dow, and

(55:26):
this chemical was proven safe.
Like kids would be out playingas the clouds of this chemical
went through and it would um, itwould kill mosquitoes.
It was the most effective thingthat killed mosquitoes DDT.
Ddt was the most effective wayto kill mosquitoes by far, and

(55:50):
mosquitoes carry malaria.
Malaria to this day is stillone of the most deadly diseases
in the world, especially in thethird world.
There was a woman and I'mblanking on her name who went to
Congress and said DDT is badfor you, ddt will kill you and

(56:10):
it will kill kids and we have tostop DDT.
It is the worst thing in theworld.
And she wrote a book.
It was something deadly spring,I think is what it was called,
something like that, right?
So she wrote this book andthere are there are no poison
risks of DDT, like there arekids that were running around
and there were no ill effects.

(56:31):
But she was so in her mind andshe wrote this book, got in
front of Congress, congress wentand said, hey, we need an
investigation on this.
They went and did theinvestigation, like the
government did the investigation, the CDC did it and all the
powers of the federal government, and they got the report back
and the report said perfectlyfine, ddt's good, but we need to

(56:55):
ban it because what she said inthis book it's scary.
And what if she's right?
Now we have the science of it,we have all the proof that it's
fine.
So this one woman and again I'mblanking your name she could.
You could arguably say that shekilled more people.

(57:16):
Arguably say that she killedmore people than Hitler, because
people in the third world tothis day die by the hundreds of
thousands every single year, andnow it's been almost 60 years,
56 years.
Hundreds of thousands, if notmillions, of people die every
year from malaria, which DDTwould have not eradicated.

(57:39):
Become pretty dark clothes,right?
So the government, yeah, thegovernment.
I have a big problem wheneverthe government says you have to
do something, and KJ just postedit Tuskegee, absolutely.
Hey boys, we want to give youan experiment.
We want, we want to.
Just, you know, kj, you go.
For those that don't knowTuskegee, kj go.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
No, hey, look up the Tuskegee syphilis experiment.
I'm not in the businesseducating history, man.
There is enough.
Let's just say there is enoughevidence to where.
You don't have to convince menot to trust the government.
Like I said, I am the mostconservative government
conspiracist you'll probablyever meet.
I don't trust the governmentone bit.
At the same time, I am adiehard patriot.

(58:24):
So figure that out on your own.
Are you ready to get into somecontroversial stuff for our last
30 minutes?

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Ooh, what do we got?
I don't know what's coming up.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
You'll see, all right , here we go.
This is good, we're going tohave fun with this one up.
You'll see, all right, here wego.
This is good, we're going tohave fun with this.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
I'm waiting for you to have one that I actually
really care about.
Most of the stuff it's like,yeah, get the vaccine, but I'm
going to argue.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Oh, I heard your own one.
Ah, the one that wasn't playing.
I got to play it here.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
It helps to play it inside.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Yeah, let there we go All right, now that everybody's
caught up.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Am I supposed to know who this is?
Or is this just a no?
No, no, this is just anothergeneric.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Just another generic Black people.
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
I won't try to watch this video, but this die hard
black Trump supporter whoberated black people all during
the election and after.
She even called Trump her daddyand now she's asking for Black
people help Watch this video.
Y'all Watch this nonsense.
Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Stop, stop scrolling Real quick.
I just need you guys to supportand help me to free my son.
My son is 23 years old and heis currently facing 21 years of
incarceration due to racialinjustice.
My son was defending himselfand, unfortunately, most black
and brown people, individualswhether you are a man or woman

(59:54):
here in colorado do not have theright to use self-defense.
The judge denied my sonself-defense.
Therefore, that same judgesentenced my son to 21 years in
prison.
Right now I am fighting to freemy son.
I have a strong appellateattorney and an attorney team,
but right now we just need somesupport to put the word out

(01:00:18):
there that racial injusticewithin the Black and brown
community has gotten out of hand, and enough is enough.
So if you guys could justsimply engage with this post I'm
not asking for any type ofmonetary value or any type of
assistance or anything like thatI just need for you guys to
engage with this post, to put itout in the algorithm, so the

(01:00:40):
word will get out there.
So let's start from the bottom.
Share the video, favorite thevideo and if you guys could
comment, hashtag, enough isenough.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Baby girl, you found your family when you were in the
voter for Trump and youdownplayed all the black people
and say you found your familywhen you were in a voter for
Trump and you downplayed all theblack people and say you found
your family.
I know you're not asking forhelp from black people.
I know you're not.
You can't be this dumb.
Think you're going to voteagainst us.
I'm bad, against Kamala andeverybody else.
Then tell somebody to share andmake this a web.

(01:01:14):
Are you fucking crazy?
You will get no help from noneof us.
You better call me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Okay, so I brought this up because this has been a
very this has been a recurrenttheme in my beloved community
right, where you've had peoplewho you know let's call them
allies or like physicalattributes of the Black

(01:01:42):
community right.
However, for whatever reason,they decide to go against their
own interest or whatever youknow, which is well within their
right.
But what we have a tendency tosee, though, is when things hit
the proverbial fan, when shitgoes bad, when shit gets rough

(01:02:02):
for them, they don't lean on thefamily or the people.
In this case.
She didn't appeal to the MAGAcommunity to get her, you know,
to support her incarcerated sonwhen he was found of injustice
to get her, you know, to supporther incarcerated son when he
was found of injustice.
She wanted the same people whoshe had constantly berated and

(01:02:27):
talked bad to and called allkinds of idiots, to come out now
and support her, because youknow we need to all be together.
So I bring this up because howdo you support someone of a
different political leaning whenthey, you know, when they so
staunchly, to the point ofpersonally making it personal?

(01:02:50):
I know you got people and yougot people in your family, in
your circle, who have extreme,you know differing political
views than you do, and I have inmind as well.
So I figured this would be afun 30 minutes to kind of talk
about, if you want to.
Yeah, I mean yeah In this case,liberty it is, and I'll get into

(01:03:11):
that, I'll get into that, I'llget into that a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
So so that was that was my first response was the
narrator is making this?
Ironically, he's the one racebaiting on this, right, there's
a lot of assumptions.
Again, we had a 60-second video, right, yeah, okay and Thad,

(01:03:35):
here's the funny thing that youjust said People don't care
until the problem comes to theirdoorstep.
It's never been on my doorstep,but Katie and I have had long
discussions about the need for ajudicial overhaul and that
there are issues with thejustice in this country and the
racial some of the racial things.
And if we want to review thisis the argument I made it was

(01:04:00):
basically okay, so you're awhite judge or a black judge or
a brown judge, it doesn't matter, right, and now you can go in
and you can say well, that's nottrue, okay, this is just a
scenario.
It's not accurate, this is justdescriptive.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
I love it when we got to start with disclaimers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Yeah, ok.
So here's the argument is, ifyou have a judge up there and
because of now you can say it'sunfair because the police only
go after black people, there'smore black people in the cities.
What a blah, blah, blah, blah.
Right, ok, the judge sees nineblack people come in front of
him in a row.
The judge sees nine blackpeople come in front of him in a

(01:04:38):
row and it doesn't matter whatthey did, right, parking tickets
, speeding assault, grand theft,auto theft, blah, blah, blah.
And then the 10th guy is awhite guy.

(01:05:00):
Does the judge whatever Rachelbackground, the judge is did the
judge look at that and go, oh,at least this guy's not a black
guy or girl, right, and so well,because of that, you know what?
Six months right, and it'sunfair.
I'm just saying that as apossibility, and KJ and I we've
talked about this andunfortunately the fix can't
happen because constitutionallyit bumps up against the right to

(01:05:23):
be in front of your accuser,because the only fair way, like
justice is blind, lady Justicehas the blindfold on.
So what should happen and theonly way to make it fair is that
a defendant basically comes upbehind a screen and all you hear

(01:05:43):
is the voice and even then youcan tell some people
socioeconomic, some of theaccents you are more likely to
hear.
Certain people have certainaccents and so you can kind of
judge, unfairly judged, fromthose.
So maybe you have to go totranscript, right, and it says
this person, you can't even saymale or female, was an adult,

(01:06:06):
can't say what age, is accusedof stealing a car, can't say
where, because now you mightidentify somebody because of the
neighborhood and they aresaying they didn't do it.
Okay, how do you judge thatfairly?
Because you can't see theperson, you can't hear him, all

(01:06:28):
you have is accused of.
Is that even enough to holdsomebody?
I don't know?
The police say here's the basicinformation.
But now the basic informationis you can't even go into.
Hey, we have a camera, we havea video of this person.
Well, the judge can't see thevideo because now we know if
it's male, female, white, black,brown, purple.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
So the answer is you can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
So there's going to be bias.
There's going to naturally bebias, no matter who it is.
It might be a white judgesaying, oh, I don't like these
black people.
Or it might be a white judgegoing, hey, I'm going to give
the white guy a little moreleeway.
And ironically I think we'vetalked about this- you have a
black judge who might go.
You know what?
I'm going to be more harsh tothese black kids because they
should know better, right?

(01:07:10):
I think the stats you said thatthe stats were that black
judges were actually more harshtowards other black individuals,
right, were actually more harshtowards other black individuals
, right?
So are we going to get to thepoint where AI is the only thing
that AI is able to look at andgo here's fair, here's what the
fairness is as far as thepolitical view goes.
All right, if you have listenedto us at all, you know that my

(01:07:33):
older brother and I could not befurther apart politically Just
can't be.
He is an expat living inGermany who is a far leftist who
believes that crystalsprotected his children, thinks
the US government is justabsolutely.
Trump is a full-on Hitler 2.0,blah, blah, blah.

(01:07:56):
And I am a conservativemilitaristic chaplain.
If my brother and my brotherand I have not literally have
not had a real conversation wellover 10 years I mean, I saw him
when my dad died in 2020 on thevideo camera and he actually
said something kind ofasshole-ish which was very

(01:08:19):
consistent for him.
But if he called me up and saidhey, man, I really need help.
I'm having a problem withwhatever.
I follow you on Facebook and Iknow that you have this contact,
that you know that that mightbe able to help.
Would you be willing to help?
Of course, because it's family,right, kj?

(01:08:44):
You and I disagree on a lot ofthings.
If you call me up, you know I'mthere for you, right?
I have friends that are.
I have a friend that is anavowed communist who lives in
Seattle.
We used to have debates all thetime If he called and we
haven't had a, we have notspoken face-to-face in over 20

(01:09:05):
years If it was within my power,if he called me up or sent me a
IM that said hey, man, I'mreally struggling, I'm really in
trouble, could you help me out?
I would do it.
If I mean, if it was reasonable, within my power, sure, because
those friendships, that's whatmakes friends, that's what makes
loyalty.
And I think the premise of thatvideo by saying well, here's a

(01:09:29):
woman who supported Trump.
The implication is that becauseshe supported Trump, is that
because she supported Trump, sheturned her back on her
blackness.
She turned her back on her.
That's the implication of thevideo.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I know I'll give you a little backstory on it.
She has on her Snapchat, herInstagram and her Twitter.
It's not that she is just aMAGA voter.
She has been extremely,extremely negative toward the

(01:10:11):
black community.
Know why, but America hasgotten so comfortable with
writing bad checks to AfricanAmericans that it's just, it's
almost a given that no matterwhat I do or no matter how
egregious the, the, the, theissue is Black America is going

(01:10:35):
to forgive me, and you got youknow, you got.
Issue is black america is gonnaforgive you, and you got, you
know, you got god, pick acelebrity.
Right oj wouldn't even,wouldn't even, you know,
wouldn't even associate with theblack community.
The minute he got caught caughtup with his accident, the first
thing he did is he ran to ablack church, right it's.
It's almost like we caught upwith his what now?

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
I've never heard it called an accident that's so.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
What I'm saying is is people will.
People will use the, the blackcommunity, almost as a, as a
redemption story, right?
So no matter what I say, bidendid it.
Biden was a a.
Biden was in in the 80s, bidenwas in the 60s.
I mean, if you can look at whatTrump has said and call him a

(01:11:25):
racist, then I will present toyou Joseph Biden, senator Joseph
Biden in the 80s and early 90s.
You'd probably have acompletely different view of
Senator Biden, right?

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
And the funny thing is, if you look back, then Biden
and Trump would have, becausein the 80s Trump was an icon in
the black community.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
He was a badass dude.
But see, I bring that point upto say that Obama rehabbed
Biden's reputation.
You know what I'm saying?
So much so, to the point towhere now people would be like,
oh I love Joe Biden.
No, joe Biden hasn't fuckingchanged.
He's still the same guy.
He just got cred, or, as thepeople like to say, it's cred
right.
So they tend to use Black peopleas these redemption stories and

(01:12:11):
writing bad checks.
And this video is a parent ofthat.
Right.
So she went to, she went to herMAGA community, right, who she,
who she championed for andstumped for and turned her back
on our community for.
And what she found out reallyquickly was the love was not

(01:12:31):
reciprocated, right.
So what she was?
She was essentially a nomad atthat point.
So what she's trying to do nowis come back and say, oh well,
we need to rally together blackpeople as a people because it's
racial injustice.
Well, where the fuck was theracial injustice when you were
talking all that trash for thelast couple of years?

(01:12:53):
It's like and you canrespectfully love somebody,
right, you can, because I.
So I have a.
I have a conservative friend ofmine who is extremely
conservative, much like thisyoung lady, right, and I love
that friend to death.
I love that friend to death.
But at the same time, I'm allabout lessons.

(01:13:14):
Right?
If you decide to step your buttover a ledge, right, if I say,
hey, man, don't go over there,there's a ledge over there, and
you decide to go too far to thatledge and you decide to fall
off, you can't then call me andsay, hey, help me, now's the
time for help.
No, the time for help was whenI was telling you there was
danger ahead and you told me tofuck off, right, because you

(01:13:35):
knew better than me, right?
So when you find yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
That's a great analogy, though let's use you
and me.
I'm on that ledge, I'm walking,I'm going hey, man, I'm going
and you're like don't go overthere.
Hey, that's unstable ground,man, don't go over there.
I'm like, yeah, but I reallywant to go see the view Doesn't
matter.
Doesn't say you're going overGround, want to go see the view,

(01:13:59):
doesn't matter it's unsafe,you're going over.
Brown gives away and I'mhanging there by my fingertips.
I'm like aj help, you're goingfuck you man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
No, not to go over there really I told you, but
I'll, and I'll give you an.
I'm glad you brought that upbecause I'll give you an example
.
Right throughout this wholebuild up for trump, what was one
of the major concerns I toldyou?
I said it's, it's, it was neverhim, it was about the people he
surrounded himself with.
I beat that drum.
Your whole thing was wait,let's just wait and see, let's
just wait and see.

(01:14:24):
The more we wait and see, themore evidence we build.
I can't at this point.
If you were to get to a point,I'll give you an example.
I had a veteran buddy of minewho was another guy, completely
separate.
He was a Trump, 100% Flags onthe back of his truck.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Now I know you're not talking about me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
No, no, no Flags on his truck, Bumper stickers, the
whole nine.
He was mega, mega, mega.
I was like, hey, man, youshould really be concerned
because you got a lot of toys.
Your income is cool now, butyou got a lot of toys, a lot of
mortgages.
You're over leveraged.
You should probably startreeling some of that stuff.
But no, no, I'm going to getmore because Trump's going to

(01:15:11):
fix the economy and you knowwe're going to.
We're going to make Americagreat again.
Well, this, we're going to makeAmerica great again.
What was this?
This was the last time I talkedto him was right before the
election, right before we didthe election night.
Special Was this 45 or 47?

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
No 47.
This is 47.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Yeah, this is 47.
This is last November.
So come to find out.
He was one of the guys cutexcuse me, doing the first
veteran wave, right.
So I reach out to him hey man,how you doing you?
Ok, man, I should have listenedto you, I should, and I told

(01:15:49):
him.
I said I appreciate it, but nowis not the time to tell me that
, because I told you for monthswhat it was going to be.
Now that it affects you, nowthat you you know, now that
you're, now that you're overleveraged, and now you don't
have a job and the job market'stough, like all of these things,
I was telling you beforehandand you told me to fuck off
because I know what I wastalking about and I'm just, you
know, I just hate Trump and youknow, I'm just, I'm up, come on.

(01:16:13):
Like he would say crazy stuff,like you know, get out of
Kamala's ass and this, that andthe other.
Ok, cool, man, good luck.
So now that you're down and out, you hit me up.
Hey, man, I'm short, can youloan me $300, this and the other
?
Now we're really close, so itdoesn't matter.
We're close because we throwmoney back and forth, so the
money part is not the issue, butthe fact that I've told you
that this was going to happen toyou and you basically told me

(01:16:35):
to go take a walk, you know, tothe other side of town and you
come back and then you say, hey,man, can you help me out?
No, man, I can't, because Itried to help you and you didn't
want my help.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
So now, but but I the cause and effect here right,
because I go back to the wholething of when they talk about
people losing their jobs in thefederal government and you see
this stuff on X and it says, oh,is this what you voted for?

(01:17:06):
Yeah, that's what I voted for.
I think the federal governmentshould be cut between 10 and 20
percent.
And if that means, if thatmeans friends of mine that are
federal workers get cut, itsucks, I get it.
But you know what I've been laidoff before you think, when I
got laid off from a supervisoryposition 20-odd years ago.

(01:17:28):
That pushed me towards adifferent path.
I was like oh, that's not fair.
How come other people got to?
stay and I didn't.
And you could say, could say,well, you didn't vote for, it
doesn't matter, that's life andand there's no, there isn't.
And just because trump got in,that wasn't like.
Oh you, you voted for trump,therefore you got fired.
It happens, I mean, thatthere's nothing that says that

(01:17:53):
harris getting in, he wouldn'thave got fired anyway.
It's possible, I don't know.
But the thing with this videothat you showed, I think it's
tough because if now againcontext, presumption of

(01:18:15):
innocence- all that stuff rightAgain.
context, presumption ofinnocence, all that stuff, right
.
I look at that and say here's afew points I'd love to find out
before I hook line and sink heron what she's saying, right,
because she's a MAGA, she'sconservative, I support Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
So I should be okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Colorado.
Okay, colorado votes blue.
What kind of who was the judge?
We don't know the racial makeupof the judge.
We don't know what thesituation was.
We don't know if it really wasself-defense, like she it goes
back to.
She can say all day long it wasunfair.
The judge didn't do this.
The judge didn't do that Right.

(01:18:57):
Last time I checked, you stillhave a trial by jury, so 12
people found your son guilty ofassault, right.
Is there injustice in America?
Is there?
Is there a imperfect judicialsystem?
Well, yeah, of course it'sstill probably the best, one of

(01:19:19):
the better systems, but there'salways flaws.
And if you think, you know,there's definitely a two-tiered
system.
It's those with money and thosethat don't have money like,
realistically, if you're able tohave a good lawyer, okay, but
it's not a two-tiered, but it'snot a two to it.
While I can understand theperception of a two tiered

(01:19:41):
system based on race, it's verydifferent than other places in
the world and it's interesting.
You brought this up because Isaw this today.
I'm going to drop the link.
And KJ, so in Great Britainthey have this council that
determined it comes out.
They basically say this is whatwe are going to suggest when it

(01:20:08):
comes to sentencing, I have athing called, so they have the
normal sentencing counsel.
So the sentencing counsel iswho comes out and says here's
what we think the guidelines.
This is what the guidelines are.
So if you are convicted ofstabbing somebody, this is what

(01:20:33):
you should be charged, this ishow long you should be in jail.
It's kind of like, back in theday, the sentencing guidelines
for the US federal governmentand there were a lot of problems
, right.
So the sentencing council cameout, but then they said, as a
caveat, here's the sentencing.
But you have to take intoaccount the age, the gender and

(01:20:57):
the race of the individual.
And if any of those are aminority, if they are female, if
they are a person of color orif they are well, person of
color kind of covers it femaleor person of color, or a certain
age 25 or younger you have tosentence them less for the same

(01:21:21):
crime.
And so the outcry has been waita minute.
You're saying if a white guywho's 40 stabs somebody, let's
say it's a street fight, okay.
A white guy who's 40 stabsanother dude, the sentencing is
10 years in jail, okay.

(01:21:41):
But if it's a 22-year-old blackfemale who stabs somebody else
you should only sentence themfor five years because you don't
understand how hard their lifehas been, and so England's going
whoa, wait a minute.
Understand how hard their lifehas been, and so England's going
whoa, wait a minute.
You can't have two differentsets of guidelines Like that is

(01:22:04):
a two Now they're making itlegitimately like hey, here's
your you talk about the DEI,here's your EO you get the
benefit of if you're age,whatever.
Instead of that, just hey,there's one for everybody.
And that's why, to me,sentencing guidelines have
always been horrible in terms ofboth, because you have people

(01:22:26):
who, oh, I don't know.
A white male swimmer fromStanford who rapes a girl who's
passed out in the street getssix months.
So it goes horribly wrong thatway.
All the way to.
You know a, a, I can't think ofone specifically right now but
a black female who I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Changed her address so that she could vote in the
election and get six years.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Yeah, get six years, that's a great one.
Yeah, perfect, yeah, exactlyRight.
You know, the January 6thversus the BLm blah, blah, blah.
There's always yeah, and so tome, that's where.
That's where the, the system,is supposed to be in the hands
of, supposed to be supposed tobe in the hands of the jury, but

(01:23:16):
juries are idiots.
Juries award people millions ofdollars because somebody used
talcum powder for 50 years anddeveloped cancer after 50 years,
so we're going to award thatperson a billion dollars.
Juries are idiots, right,because they come from the

(01:23:40):
general population, like I itsays a jury of your peers, jury
of your peers right.
Okay, if I was arrested, let'ssay I don't know.
Let's take this a little more.
Let's say and I can't go intoall of it, although soon I will

(01:24:01):
be able to let's say I wascharged in the military.
We have this thing called theUCMJ Uniform Code of Military
Justice and let's say I wascharged under UCMJ for whatever
right.
I was charged under UCMJ forwhatever right.
Ucmj for what's a good oneDisrespecting an officer, right,

(01:24:29):
disrespecting a senior officer,which I didn't do.
But let's just use that.
And I pushed.
I said no, I want acourt-martial.
Ask me right now if I wouldtrust 12 other chaplains to be
my jury.
That's not just no, that's thebig old hell.

(01:24:52):
No, I'll tell you right now.
I would rather have a randomgroup of brand new E1s.
Judge me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Wait, wait, now that you got that story out, because
I've been holding it.
Wait, you said I made that up,though I have not been charged
with using that.
You said they elect a jury.
They elect a jury of peers.
So you got 12 people fromsociety Allegedly, yeah, they're
idiots.
But wait though.
That's like secondhandly sayingthey're idiots.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Liberty I hope that's the sarcasm font.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Oh, that's why I was over here cracking up.
I'm like man the chaplain justcalled society a bunch of idiots
.
We in trouble man.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
KJ, do you remember what the chaplain's personal
motto is?
I'm going to type my personalmotto oh, my God.
And I am going to post it soeverybody can see exactly what
my personal motto is.
This has been my personal modelfor a long time oh my god, man,
that is hilarious.
It's that on my beard, allright that'd be really funny if

(01:26:12):
I misspelled this god that isthere you go, kj.
That is Chaplain O'Neill'spersonal motto and has been, and
it has never let me down.
Did it post?
Yeah, it posted On my side.

(01:26:33):
It didn't show up.
If you can't see it.
My personal motto is neverunderestimate the stupidity of
people.
That motto has never let medown.
Oh, so I would.
I'm telling you right nowthere's there, it's society writ

(01:26:54):
large, are idiots.
Look, if I get on a jury, I'msure one of two sides is going
to call me an idiot, dependingon which way I go.
I've never done jury duty.
I've been called.
I've never got on it.
Okay, final thought I'd love todo jury duty, just for the
experience at some point.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
But I want a real one .

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
I want to be like 12 angry men.
I'm going to convince them.
Right, but because people havebias, right.
So this woman to go back, thewoman on the video.
She turns around and she'sblack.
Therefore she believes it'sinjustice.
So that's where the bias goes,right, she has it.

(01:27:38):
Now she wants to reach out tothe black community.
Well, is she really going toreach out to the white community
to say there's injustice in the, in the judicial system?
That's the gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
So she reached out to her MAGA community, because
we're in a post-racial,post-artist society, right and
they and they probably said yourkid was guilty.
She found out really quicklythat, let's see, they don't have
the care or concern for herwell-being or her offspring's
well-being as she believed.

(01:28:10):
It doesn't matter.
I'll tell you right now shecould have been a.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
BLM matter.
She could.
I'll tell you right now, shecould have been a BLM all over
George Floyd.
George Floyd is the martyr ofthe 21st century.
Blm is the greatest blah, blah,blah, blah, blah.
And her kid gets arrested andconvicted.
And she could have gone to BLMand said please help.

(01:28:33):
And they would have said no,because it doesn't work that way
.
Probably no, because it doesn'twork that way.
Probably, loyalty toorganizations only goes one way.
I've said this for years now.
I can love the chaplain corps.
The chaplain corps doesn't loveme.
The chaplain corps basicallyand I've had this proven to me

(01:28:57):
couldn't care less about melegitimately, could not get
involved in a situation that washappening to me and my career.
There's a reason I'm retiringthis summer and in part it's
because the chaplain.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
They said good luck.
Wish you well.
Let us know how it worked outfor you.
What?

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Yep, I had a senior chaplain who was a good friend
of mine.
Say sorry, I can't write anendorsement letter.
Oh, I'm not there, I'm notinvolved, I can't write a letter
.
Okay, insanity, I still lovethe guy.
But it's coming, you guys,whatever, the first Sunday after
July 31st, that's going to bethe story time.

(01:29:41):
I am and my wife has said don'tyou dare.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Oh no, I think we're going to run ads for that one.
That one's going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
That will be and I will name names I will have.
If anybody wants, I will havethe documents for anybody who
wants them?

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
We are out of time, holy scamoles.
I think that's.
We're out of time, man.
We got to pick that up nextweek, so we'll see you guys.
Same bat time, same bat channelnext week Chappy, you have a
great week.
Man, we are out of here.
Pogues out.
Same bat channel next weekchappy, you have a great week.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
Man, we are out of here.
What do you want to do tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
the same thing we do every night.
Pinky, try to take over theworld.
All right, yo let's get into it, try to take over the world.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
You're preaching try to take over the world.
They're preaching freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
They're trying to take over the world and bring
Chaplin in the world.
They're trying to take over theworld.

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