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Speaker 1 (00:00):
all right, let's see.
Jeez man, what do you want todo tonight?
The same thing we do everynight.
Pinky, try to take over theworld.
All right, yo, let's get intoit.
Try to take over the world.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
You're preaching.
Take over the world.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
And greatest chaplain in the world, Mr Lance O'Neal,
Take over the world, All rightworld.
We are back properly with theactual intro.
I don't know what in the worldit was, but you know shenanigans
afoot.
We are back for another week.
It's your boy, KJ Bradley, andthe world's greatest chaplain,

(00:48):
and we are the Pogues man backin the building for another week
.
What's going on, Chappy?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I don't know that intro and everything looks as
bad as my wrinkle going on in myshirt.
At least something it can say,and my hair for that matter.
It's all good.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Chaos and shenanigans afoot Before we get started.
I know last week we started offor we ended off on a
semi-controversial.
I wanted to address it, so Ihad to.
I took some time.
I didn't post those snippetsand I wanted to take some time
and get some counsel.

(01:29):
So I talked to a bunch ofdifferent people from a bunch of
different backgrounds and Isaid, listen, this is how the
show ended last night last week,and I wanted to hear your
feedback and the consensus fromboth sides of the spectrum, from
a lot of different backgrounds,was it's not what you say, it's

(01:52):
how you say, and how the?
message is received, and so youmay feel that way, but your
audience, the way you presentedit, the audience may take it in
a very abrasive manner.
And sometimes when you present amessage, no matter how well
intended the message was, if themessage isn't is received in an

(02:12):
abrasive manner, it's not goingto, you know, it's not going to
to be received.
So I didn't vote.
So I wanted to, you know, kindof kind of let that, let that
simmer and then, if we get sometime, kind of come back and
circle back and address it in amore comprehensive manner this

(02:34):
week.
But I don't know, I don't knowif we have time.
You know, with thisadministration, everything they
are definitely a pray and sprayadministration.
So it's always, it is alwayssomething going on.
I did want to make sure I didn'tforget for our social media
family.
I did not forget to post it.
I wanted to go, take some timeto get some wise counsel and to

(03:01):
talk to a couple of people, acouple of mentors, and say, say,
look, that was extremelycontroversial.
I wanted to make sure, you know, in the spirit of the show, I
wanted to make sure what I'msaying is not, you know,
abrasive and you know I'm sayingI don't want to come off as you
know, I'm saying I don't wantto come off as just another one

(03:24):
of those dudes who's justpointing fingers and shit.
That's never the intent.
You know, so I wanted to getwise counsel in that regard and
be like all right, look man thisis what I was trying to say.
This is how it came off, youknow, because we had a, you know
, short period of time.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
So what do?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
you think they were like yeah, reset that.
That's why I didn't post it.
That's why I didn't.
The guys on TikTok and all thatother stuff, that's why you
didn't see it.
This week I know a lot ofpeople hit me up and was like yo
, where's the poll?
Why didn't you post it?
What's going on?
I told you guys I'd address itwhen we got here.

(04:02):
That's why.
That's why you didn't see it,that's why we didn't talk about
it.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
And that's why it's simmering.
Well, I think that's a reallymature way of dodging the bullet
.
No, I'm obviously kidding.
I do like what.
I really like what you said,because there are times where we
I don't want to say we get offof the point of the show.

(04:33):
The whole point of the show wasnever to just complain up with
solutions that we see that areviable ways to improve the
country, our world, our livesand just the things going on

(04:56):
around us.
So I really appreciate that.
That's the spirit you're comingfrom and I mean I think you're
a fair player.
I've never taken anything yousaid as personally derogatory or
going off the rails.
I'm sure there's things thatI've never taken anything you
said as personally derogatory orgoing off the rails.
I'm sure there's things thatI've said on this that have been
taken the wrong way in my life.
For sure, I could probably giveI don't know a couple examples

(05:16):
over the past few years thatwere literally life altering
about how people took things ortwisted words or whatever.
So you know I don't have aproblem with.
Well, it didn't go up andhonestly, though, I forgot last
week I am so just when he saidthat I was like oh yeah, white

(05:37):
people think things.
I forgot about it.
Yeah, plus, I don't see.
So I don't see who's on andwho's actively watching unless
they comment.
So I don't see who's on andwho's actively watching unless
they comment.
So I don't know if that'sactually watching or Liberty's
actually watching until theymake a comment.
So I was like once you startedthat, I was like oh no, no, you
can't do it because I don't, Ican't see.
Yeah, because Liberty needs tobe on if you're going to start

(05:59):
posting things.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, no, I just do.
I got of um couple of messageson the TikTok page this week.
Um, it's like hey, you guyswere going to post uh, you guys
were going to post a poll.
You know we why haven't youposted a poll?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
So I had to.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
You know I wanted to make sure I addressed it, man,
and and then I take for grantedto how much we're, you know just
how far we've we in ouraudience, man, and just how many
people are like like yo hey,you said this on the show, where
is it?
So just being mindful of thatand making sure we keep that
into account, like you know,being more accountable, like all
right, man, we got to deliver,so that's another reason for the

(06:39):
people who don't know, I'mgonna give kj just.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I'm about to spread it thick on KJ.
Kj and I had this thought aboutdoing this.
If you haven't been with theshow from the start, maybe a
quick recap.
Kj and I have known each othernow since 2015.
We served together in El Paso.
We had some interestingleadership.

(07:03):
We had a great leader in thehurricane, Colonel Norris, who
we both really admired andappreciated.
But we will both say right offthe bat and I'm sure Colonel
Norris will agree with this he'sa very difficult person to work
for as well.
He made me a better staffofficer and so he did a lot of

(07:24):
positive things and improved mymilitary bearing in a lot of
ways.
So we've known each other.
And then when, when KJ retired,he got out before me and then I
ended up, we ended up talking,and then I ended up moving to
the Augusta area, FortEisenhower, and KJ was living
here, and so we reconnected andstarted going to lunch and

(07:44):
having really, I thought, very,very interesting discussions.
And so when we talk about Tupac, so an hour going by, we would
sit down, we'd pick a place togo eat.
An hour never happened.
We're talking two, three.
I think our record was almostfour and a half hours.
We were almost ready to order.
The next meal is how long wewere talking.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Strangers jumping into the conversation like, hey,
this is really good, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
We had people going, hey.
So at that point I kind of waslike you know what if we?
And we would talk about KJ'sscript writing and we bumped
around some ideas.
And then at one point we kindof went you know we should, we
should put this online.
I mean, it probably won't goanywhere, it's you know, but who
cares?
It's for us.
And so KJ is the one who's doneall of the legwork on this.

(08:30):
I literally show up on Sundaynight, I click a button and wait
for him to bring me into thestudio.
If he's not here I can't do theshow.
I don't have the passwords.
Last year KJ was like I need toshow you all this stuff.
I was like okay, and then wejust never did it.
I have no idea how to do any ofthis.
Kj is the one who's got usreached out to CTR Media Network

(08:54):
.
He's the one that clips the hasthe guy doing?
I think he's done some clipsand helped with finding somebody
to do the clips.
This is all on KJ.
So if you guys like the show,you should absolutely give KJ a
nice big pat on the back.
I don't give him thatrecognition enough.
And if you don't like the show.

(09:14):
Well, that's probably because Italk too much and I come off as
a complete know-it-all dorkywhite guy.
So otherwise I have.
When KJ says how many people wehave following, I literally
don't know.
I have no idea how many peoplewe have following.
I clicked on youtube, uh, onthe channel, a couple weeks ago

(09:35):
and it said 1400 followers.
I was like, wait, what now we?
Okay.
So I don't know tiktok, I don't.
So, hey guys, whatever you'redoing to spread the message, to
spread the word, if we havepeople actively watching, great
again, all I see here.
I'm not even sure how I see thequestions that pop up.
I don't get the Twitch.

(09:55):
I don't get.
Like I know what Twitch is.
Barely you start talking tosome of the others.
I don't have any idea.
I'm too old for this crap.
So luckily, kj.
So if you ever want to messageme directly, you better tell KJ.
Hey, you know what, messagethis to the other guy who's
obviously wrong, and we'll gofrom there.

(10:16):
So there's your pat on the back, kj.
Kudos for you to doing Prettymuch 99% of legwork.
Let me just show up and that'sthe best.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
That's the best.
Just keep cursing us out onTikTok.
I love it.
I love all the bitch.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
you're all on TikTok Good man Every once in a while.
Kt shared one with me when wehad an early one.
We were talking about race andmy favorite comment was just
somebody wrote to KT you shouldknow better what.
You should know better what,trying to talk about actual
things in life, you should knowbetter, okay.
So oh, we are now.

(10:51):
My daughter is showing me we'reat.
Is this for YouTube?
We are at 3,140 subscribers, so2,000 more.
She's giving me a littlesarcastic attaboy, so let's see
here's, here's getting this.
This is my technical story herewhat's up, little one?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
okay, she says hi.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh, she says what's up brah?
Because we say brah in my housebrah all right.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
So let's get to the business at hand.
Man, all right.
So the chaos or theadministration?
Holy skamolis man, where do youwant to dive in?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
we've had wherever I love it I I'll tell you I'm all
in on this we've had what we'vehad.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
We've had SCOTUS kickbacks, we've had Elon with a
chainsaw.
Oh, the Germany elections weretoday.
Germany, I didn't see whathappened.
That was pretty.
That was pretty significant.
Conservatives ended up winning,thank God.
I was not going to lie.
I was more nervous than Ishould have been in Germany in a

(12:02):
very long time.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Did you see what the I'm going off a drudge report
headline?
Did you see what the turnoutwas?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
No, was it?
I haven't seen the specificsyet 83%.
No way.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
That's if America hey look America.
If we wanted to have a thirdparty, 87% would be, I believe.
Right now we're at about 60%.
You could have 23% of peoplevoting for a libertarian party
and actually bring some change.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
But that actually makes sense though, because I
think the alt-right ended upgetting the highest highest
rated votes since like World WarII or something.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Well, but they having the highest history.
Oh, afd scored a historic secondplace finish.
So did the conservative partybreak 50%, is the question,
though, because if not, thenthey're going to have to do a.
Oh my gosh, this is the problemwith getting older you forget

(13:09):
words.
And so what is it?
When two parties get togetherin Europe two different parties
and they do a coalition, they'llhave to have a coalition man.
I'll tell you what.
That's the worst part ofgetting old.
Let's see, yeah, um, let's see,yeah.

(13:31):
Conservative block won 28.5percent, followed by the afd,
which is the far right, with20.5.
So, yeah, so there's definitelygoing to be a um.
Chancellor schultz's socialdemocrats fell to their worst
results since World War II, was16.5.
And the Greens at 11.8.
And the far left, die Linkeparty, at 8.7.

(13:52):
So that's interesting the farleft got 8.7 and the far right
got 20.5.
I'd be curious in the US if wehad and we talked about this
before if we had a conservativeparty, a Republican party, a
moderate party, a Democrat partyand a far left party, the green

(14:19):
party.
Let's call it the green party,green Party.
I'd be really interested to seewhat the breakdown of our
voting would be like that,because I think moderate would
probably Republican and Democratand moderate, I still think
would get the vast majority.
But it would be interesting tosee that far right and far left
because we've talked about thisthe far left is definitely the

(14:42):
loudest part of the left and hasa lot of leadership in america.
Um, aoc, that the multiplepeople in the media are what I
would consider pretty far left.
But on the far right in americaI think it gets you know,
rejected, castigated.
I don't, I don't think youwould have the same level.

(15:04):
Because when we think about thefar right and what I think
about the far right not with themedia, because I don't think
that's really what we're talkingabout when we're talking about
the far right, I'm talking aboutthem good old boy rednecks that
are down south that say, hey,let's get our hoods on.
Or the Aryan Nation in northernIdaho used to be in northern
Idaho.
I don't know if they're stillup there, but they could be.

(15:26):
But but when we're talkingabout far right in America, I
think you are talking aboutstrong racial beliefs.
You would probably have veryfew people of color in the far
right in America.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
You mean the guys that say things like you know it
takes need to put a strongwhite man in charge, or yeah, I
mean, people say stupid things.
But let me ask you this, KJCause I was going to say, you
know, you don't have to look toofar.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
But?
But let me ask you this becauseI think we, I think America is
unique in a lot of ways becauseand this historically because we
, we were the only country thatwhite people fought and died to
end slavery.
Slavery before the Civil Warwas normal not only in America,

(16:20):
but common throughout the world.
I believe before the US endedslavery, england was really
about the only country thatreally stopped.
England was actually ahead ofthe game of the US by about 50,
60 years because they outlawedslavery in the start of the
1800s.
So but if you look right nowand you say, name any African

(16:42):
country, that their complexion,let's say, matches yours Ghana,
nigeria.
If you have some, if you havethose same ideas, and say the
and we've both seen this I sentyou a video this week of a black
man or a group of black mensaying we are the true

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descendants of Homo sapien andwhite people are actually
descendants of Neanderthal, andso therefore, white people are
actually below where blackpeople.
Black people are the truehumans and white people are
subhumans.
Would you call that group farright in that country, because

(17:26):
that's really what it is in alot of ways, but in America,
because we are, so we are really?
I think it's fair to say we'reone of the most diverse
countries, if not the mostdiverse country in the world.
I don't think anybody reallymatches our demographics the way
they are, and that's why whenyou talk about far right and far

(17:49):
left in the US, it's verydifferent than like Germany.
So I'm curious what yourthoughts are when you're talking
about America and the politicalscale versus what you
understand of other countriesand I could be wrong.
If people are out there andsaying I'm completely wrong,
please let me know.
I have no problem with that.
Ignorance can be fixed.
It means you haven't learnedanything yet and I don't believe

(18:09):
I'm stupid, which means youcan't learn.
So what are your thoughts?
Kj.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, in terms of diversity, America is.
I mean for all the diversityAmerica has.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I don't know how to say this without being
controversial because at itsessence.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Caucasians are a curious breed, right, because
you'll have a set of Caucasianswho will fight to the death
right For civil rights, andyou'll have them fight to the
death for civil rights.
You'll have them fight on theside of right.
They'll say, hey, man, this iswrong.
Then you'll also have a set ofCaucasians who will say, no,

(18:58):
this is wrong, those guys aresubhuman.
We're the only right race.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's just really weird, like I, I don't you know,
do you think that doesn'thappen in africa, though, or in
south america, or like china?

Speaker 1 (19:14):
no, not, not without, not without influence, not
without influence here's.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Here's why I think that's now africa.
I'm not as familiar with africa.
China, I'll tell you right now,is absolutely true.
China, japan and korea, chinesepeople in general, historically
have thought that japanesepeople and korean people are
subhuman.
Japanese people think thatchinese and korean are subhuman

(19:42):
and korean think japanese andchinese are subhuman and Korean
think Japanese and Chinese aresubhuman.
So in Asia there's a very clear.
They believe there's a clearmongrelization of the Asian and
won't even recognize the thatthere's really any.
If you call, you want to pisssomebody off.

(20:02):
If you're from China, call themJapanese or Korean, it's, it's
as bad as honestly it's, andit's a little bit different.
Why?
Because because of nationalpride.
But Mexican and Puerto Ricanare very similar.
If you call somebody fromPuerto Rico Mexican, that's,

(20:24):
that's not good.
And so I think and I don't knowabout Africa, I have no idea-
that's what I'm sayingUniversally.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
there is no place on the globe that you can go when
you're this color and not belooked at as an inferior species
.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I think that's true in.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Africa.
Africa is probably the only.
Africa is probably the onlyplace.
However, even in Africa, due toEuropean influences, there are
still places in Africa where yougo and you look like this, you
still get looked at crazy.
Like even if you go to the,even if you go to North Africa,
where they mix with Greeks andRomans, and you go to Europe and

(21:05):
Algeria and stuff like that,they look at you and they say,
oh, you're so, you know, you'renot the same.
Like even if I was to go backas an African-American, if I was
to go to Nigeria, if I was togo to Ghana or if I was to go to
Ethiopia, they'd look at me andbe like I'm tainted, I'm not a
pure African.
Oh, because you're not darkenough.

(21:25):
Well, not, not, I'm not darkenough, but I've lost my hair,
I've lost my heritage, I've lostmy roots so, so it's that.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Is that after conversation, or is that just by
looks like?
I don't know this is.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
This is after, this is after conversation, because
I've been looking into, I'vebeen looking into regaining my
citizenship and you know I'mtalking to expats around the
world like, all right, man, hey,you know where, where, where's
the safe space?
And there really is no safespace.
When you look, like us, therejust isn't.
And it's really weird becauseyou know, civilization began in

(22:07):
Africa.
So it's a really weirddichotomy, man, and I don't know
, it's just, it's a weirdcomplex.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Let me ask you something about that.
What you just said what's yourdefinition of civilization began
in Africa.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Science, right, Everything.
Everything can be mutated fromour gene.
Right, Everything, right.
We can produce every hue on theplanet.
Right the eve gene came fromour dna right.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
So are we?
Okay?
I just I definitions.
Here is why I'm asking Sure,it's pretty well accepted
historically that the ideas ofcivilization and actually the
first city and city-states wasin the Fertile Crescent, in the
Middle East, not in Africa, sir,no way.

(23:20):
Well, hold on, no way.
What I'm saying is wait.
What I'm saying is the big citystates Originally, yes, the
migration out of Africa happened, yes, and so modern day human,
the very first modern day Homosapiens, were in Africa.

(23:40):
What I'm just saying is are wetalking about the migration of
what would be considered modernday homo sapien?
Is that what you're callingcivilization?
Or are we talking the firstwritten languages and the first
larger than tribal coming out ofthe middle East and the and the

(24:01):
fertile Crescent?
Cause, I think that there's.
It's just a word.
It really doesn't matter thatmuch.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I'm just curious what we're talking about.
Even if we were to go thatroute, right, and you look at it
, there's only one continent inone area, right, that hasn't
experienced a dark ages, right,that hasn't experienced an age
of lost wisdom, right?
You want to take a guess whatthat was?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Are we talking about something that actually had
civilization or is it a trickquestion like Antarctica?
No, no, no trick question.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Like so, like all right.
So we know Europe lost, has alost knowledge.
We know the Americas lost theirknowledge.
We know South America got wipedout.
They lost their knowledge,right.
So everybody's lost knowledgeexcept the continent, right, but
Africa only.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Let me hold on though .
Everything, well, every, all ofhis, not all of the most
African history was passed downverbally in folk tale and
stories.
Right, so it's, and it's very.
It's very different than theway, let's say, the Jews did it.
The Jews did it in veryspecific.

(25:16):
There were very specific songsthat were sung down, so like the
Old Testament, by the, by thetime the Old Testament got to
moses, those songs about thecreation, about the garden of
eden, about jen, they were beingsung in verse and that's very
specific how their history wasdone.
So, africa and africa, folktales right, it was folk tales,

(25:39):
it wasn't, it wasn't specific,it was folk tales, and I think
you lose it's.
I think it's very.
It's really too bad that thewritten language didn't get to
Africa sooner, because I thinkthere's a ton of lost knowledge.
It's, but even with writtenlanguage, you have, you know,
the great library of Alexandriabeing burned.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Ethiopia had one of the first written languages in
the world bird.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Ethiopia had one of the first written languages in
the world, one of or the or what?
Because Babylon had the firstone.
Well, no, babylon got theirlanguage from Ethiopia, not what
I've studied, but okay, I couldbe wrong.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
As a matter of fact, they came to Africa to study.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Which is really for Cuneiform.
It originally came out ofCuneiform writing originally
came out of Babylon, and it was.
It was used primarily as a astallying record, record keeping,
to say you know, the King hasto know what he's got.
Yes, no, cuneiform came up andit was basically just scratches

(26:51):
on a tablet.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I hadn't heard that it came out of Africa.
It's certainly possible, butWest Africa, West Africa I don't
know Ethiopia specifically,because I think it was called
something else, but the WestAfrica region, and I'd have to
go back and look at it.
Well, and again, you have a lotof.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
you have a lot of stuff from Western like the
richest, the richest guy in theworld.
At one point, what mosthistorians say the richest dude
in the I think his name was MasaMusa came out of Western Africa
and we really don't know thatmuch about him because there
wasn't a written language.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
And so but.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I mean, all of that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
I like that, but that but the point I was making is
it's weird that out of all ofthe contributions Right, so you
have that you have the toworldwide civilizations, only to
be looked at as if your pariahin the world is interesting.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Moors went to save Europe.
Yeah, the Moors went to conquerEurope.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yes, the Moors brought Europe out of the Dark
Ages.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Indirectly, because they were coming in to try to
take over Spain, and they gotpushed back finally.
And so the European countriesstarted going this isn't okay.
And then the England and someof the other countries started
going, hey, we need to push backand let's do these crusades.
But the Moors weren't there tosave Europe.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
I mean it's the same way you got.
I mean it's the same way thatyou know, the Anglo-Saxons came
to save Africa and India andthen they came to save the
Americas and you know,anglo-saxons never went to
Africa to save Africa, thoughthey didn't care less.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
They couldn't care less about Africans.
They didn't care less, theycouldn't care less about
Africans.
Yeah, they cared about what wasin the ground.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
I know, that's what I'm saying.
They came to save.
What do they call it?
Oh, I see what you're?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Oh, yes, they came to save.
Okay, we need the quotationmarks on that.
They came to save Africa.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
They came to save.
They came to save and spreadlove and joy.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, and that's where, again, I kind of look at
it Historically.
I look at some of those wordsas very specific things England
and Portugal and Brazil.
Portugal was not going to saveBrazil.
They were going to claim Brazilbecause they knew Brazil was a
new world and had a lot of stuffin it.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
They didn't want to protect Brazil from itself.
Brazil didn't know it neededprotecting, but they just they
went to go give them a tacticalhug is what we like to call it A
tactical hug.
Grab their arms around themreal tight and make sure they're
safe.
Just take care of them.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
That's the funny thing about history.
Nobody's innocent in any ofthis, right?
So so, like you said, you knowthe Moors were going to save
Europe.
The Moors were going in andthey were.
They were trying to dominate asmuch as anybody else and that's
.
That's been the history of theworld.
The winners, the winners havewritten the history and you know
Europe.

(30:04):
If you went back to, let's say,let's say, 900, 900 AD, right,
and we're able to go to 900 ADand we say, hey, world, you know
those of you that are thesmartest people in the world
right now, where is the nextgreat, who's going to be
dominant in a thousand years, in1100 years?

(30:27):
They would have said, andknowing the knowledge they had
I'm not just saying like random,but like here's the knowledge
of where you're at at 900, youknow the 10th century they would
have said, oh well, it's goingto be the Middle East and the
Muslims, or the Chinese, orAfrica, egypt was, they were on

(30:54):
the decline.
Yeah, right, they were on thedecline, but Western, but
Western Africa was starting tokind of get some footholds.
So, yeah, the Shites and thoseguys maybe Right.
And then they would have lookedand said, oh and, and in the
americas.
Well, you've got the aztecs,you've got the incas that were
on their way up and yeah.
So, and if you said, well, whatabout the europeans?

(31:14):
Europeans, so what you know,and there's a great book out
there called um gosh.
It's like germs, steel and gunsor something like that.
It talks about why, why, uh,the europeans were uniquely.
That one last this weeksomebody yeah, I, I read it a

(31:35):
few years.
I read it a couple years ago agreat book, um guns, steel and
bugs or something like that, andhe talks about why it ended up
being Europe that ended upconquering.
And a lot of it was dumb luck.
And the biggest dumb luck wasanimal husbandry is because you
had the Caucasians throughoutEurope, were raising pigs and

(31:58):
cows and eating pigs and cows.
Well, pigs and having horsesrun Pigs and cow and horses are
not the cleanest of animals.
So, just like when you havethese parents who don't let
their kids play in the dirt ordon't do anything, those kids
generally have a pretty badimmune system.
Well, over a couple centuries,you have caucasians being in the

(32:22):
mud and the guck and the grosswith cows and pigs and horses,
and so they build up an immunity.
Yeah, so then, when theconquistadors went to germsteel
yeah, germsteel guns, germsteelsgreat book if you haven't read
it.
So then, when you know Europewent to the New World, they were

(32:45):
able to dominate because of alarge there was already a
natural plague going through theAmericas, but then on top of it
you had the European plaguesthat basically came out.
There's some estimates that theNorth American tribes where the
pilgrims and the settlers camein from Europe, were down to 5%

(33:08):
of what they would have been.
So on one side you'll have somepeople go well, see, that's
just God preparing the land.
Okay, I guess, if you want tolook at it like that.
But the irony of that all isthat, without that happening,
the settlers not only do thesettlers run into, you know,
obviously, people who probablydon't want their land taken

(33:31):
Settlers would go out and they'dfind these paths and they'd
start going through the woodsand they'd come along these
paths and go oh cool, there's apath.
Oh, look, yeah, a pre-made,pre-made town for us.
Look, there's crops over thereand and, and there's, there's
animals here that we can and wecan feed and we can do some
stuff, and well, I guess we'llhave to bury all these bodies

(33:53):
that are here on the ground, butthey're just bodies.
So, yeah, so, but, but it'sinteresting.
It's one of those things thatI've I've always found curious,
um, when people argue and youand I have had some of these
debates about, you know, theslave trade and all that and
it's like, because one of thethings I've my I don't I don't

(34:14):
want to say issue, becausethat's that's not the right word
for it yeah, um, is that whenyou start talking about slavery
and how slavery was uniquely badin the US, I don't think it is.
I think slavery has been priorto 1860, slavery was the norm in
the world outside of, again,england.
And so, yeah, 1860 happens, andso we fast forward 150 years

(34:41):
and we're still 60, 70 yearsbehind England in terms of some
of our racial stuff.
But England's now you look atEngland England's going through
a lot of issues with with theirpolicies of immigration, and
Muslims are there's a specificword in Islam for basically
taking over an area politicallyby birth rate and immigration.

(35:04):
You don't, it's, yeah, it'sbasically you go in and you
outbreed, because Muslims don'tthink, muslims don't think in
terms of tomorrow, next week,next year Muslims and Middle
Easterners in general and I'mnot saying they don't think
about tomorrow.

(35:24):
What I'm saying isstrategically, and they are
thinking about 20 years, 50years, 100 years from now.
So if you are a group of peoplereligious or not if you're a
group of people and you say,okay, we want to go, take over
montana, right, um kj, you wantto, you want over Montana, right

(35:47):
, kj?
You don't think there's enoughBlack people in Montana and you
think it's a right place to turninto a Black state, and you're
able to convince a lot of otherBlack people to move to Montana.
And then you tell all of themlook, this isn't going to be
ours, but this could be ourgrandkids.

(36:08):
And so what we need to do is weneed to have kids, lots of kids
, this birthright stuff.
These, these Montanans, they'reworried about going skiing,
they're worried about you know,uh, only having a couple of kids
.
They can't have more than onekid or two.
You know if they're seen, ifthey have a couple of kids.

(36:29):
So what we're going to do iswe're going to go in and we're
going to procreate and you watch, within a couple of generations
we're not even going to.
We don't need to fight for it.
All we need to do is go thereand eventually this is going to
be ours, and that there's anactual I don't remember what it
is, but there's a phrase for itin Islam.
So you know, that's to me.

(36:50):
That's what's going on inEngland, and most Americans, I
don't think, are overlyconcerned about it.
I think you have seen someexamples, like in the
Minneapolis area, of of thisgoing on, though, but it's it's
still.
I think it's fairly condensedand condensed, but you still see
things.
You still see Sharia law beingpracticed in certain areas of

(37:11):
America, underground albeit,sure, but it's something that
and maybe I hate to say it likethis, but I don't care Like
generally, I hope this world isbetter for my kids and grandkids
.
That said, I'm going to be deadin 20, 30, 40 years, unless

(37:36):
something drastic happens.
You know, maybe I'm justselfish and I go.
I just want to enjoy my timehere, I want to have a good job
and I want to save something andleave something to my kids.
When my dad passed now, fouryears ago, five years in October
, my mom's still living, but outof circumstances, I'm not going

(38:00):
to get anything from her, orthe house or anything that's
already been given to a sibling,which is a whole long story
there, but I don't want to dothat to my kids.
I want to leave something formy kids when I go.
But if I'm able to, great, andI hope I can provide a good
living for them.
But I'm not going to havegenerational wealth.

(38:20):
Very few people will have very,very few people have
generational wealth, and thosetwo I don't blame them.
Good for them, as long asyou're not stealing from
somebody else and this isanother part we've talked about
and I know we're kind of jumpingaround but if somebody else, if
Elon Musk or Bill Gates orwhoever comes up with ideas,

(38:41):
bill Gates is a great examplePeople talk about oh,
billionaires have too much money, and I go, how do you earn it,
bill Gates?
It's immeasurable the amount oflabor that has been saved by
Bill Gates inventing Microsoftand the personal computer.
What we're using right now theman hours, the opportunity and

(39:04):
maybe somebody else, maybe Apple, makes it, maybe it's delayed
by 10 or 20 years, I don't know,but at the same time he was in
the right place at the righttime with the right idea, the
right work and things.
When you start talking abouthow much time just using the
computer to get things done incommunication, just in emails
and such.
You're talking about literallycountless hours of man, hours

(39:28):
that have been saved by BillGates.
And so if he's worth 80 billionor 100 billion or 150 billion
or 2 trillion, good for him,because at the end of the day
he's making that money.
Because I'm saying here I'mwilling to trade my $150 for
your Microsoft package that youdeveloped originally, and so I

(39:50):
don't have a problem with it.
I have a problem with thingslike Enron.
I have a problem with thingslike Bernie Madoff when it's
stolen and when it's based onlies.
And I know people will say well, elon Musk, his is based on
lies because he went in and tookover companies.
Well, okay, but he went overlegally and took over companies

(40:13):
and he obviously took over theright companies and he's an
idiot.
He doesn't do any of theengineering, okay, well, he
hires the right people.
Quick story on that, and I knowI've been talking and then I'll
shut up.
So my older brother, who willnever see this, I'm sure, but my

(40:34):
older brother always, I thinkhe believes he is the smartest
person in the room, in any roomhe walks into.
Bring them on, man, I love smartpeople, except for me.
He has readily admitted that Iwas too smart for him.
He didn't know what to do withme when I was little, which I
personally think was a BS copout to not being a good older
brother.
But OK, so this would have been20 years ago when, when Bush
was in office and he was just.

(40:55):
I mean he's.
He's the polar opposite of me,like politically and everything
else.
Right.
He lives in Germany.
He's an expat.
He believes crystals willprotect his kids.
He hates Trump.
I am a militaristic chaplain,you know, conservative, who
believes that America is thebest place.
Ok, we could not be moredifferent.
And so even then, he just hatedBush.

(41:17):
And we're talking.
He's.
He's just talking about what?
What an idiot.
George Bush is just completedummy, and I said so.
Larry, do you think you're, inall seriousness, do you think
you're smarter than PresidentBush?
He goes well, absolutely.
I said okay.
Well, let me make a point then.
Let's presume you are smarterthan President Bush.

(41:37):
You're an underemployed personwho has no real nothing
foundational.
You didn't go to college.
Who has no real nothingfoundational.
You didn't go to college.
You basically bopped aroundyour life being a effective
pothead ski bum, who has triedto settle into a corporate life,

(41:58):
and you can't because you can'tmake that adjustment.
Meanwhile, the dummy that's inthe White House went to Yale,
went to Harvard, was the CEO ofmultiple companies, including
the Texas Rangers baseball team.
He's been the governor of Texas.
Now he's president of theUnited States.
So, whether he's had advantagesor not getting into Yale and

(42:19):
Harvard, because of his family,because of his dad, fine, but he
still had to take advantage ofevery opportunity and surround
himself with smarter people thanhe is and listen to them.
So who's the dummy, him or Bush?
You know who's dumber, you orhim, because and this is for me,

(42:39):
look, I could be the smartestguy in the room.
But Bush, all theaccomplishments of what he's
done compared to me, they're noteven close right.
I think most of us would tradeour lives for the accomplishment
you know if it's a straight-uptrade the accomplishments for
what George W Bush has succeededin versus the rest of us,

(42:59):
because he's one of what 43people that have been president?
44?
Because we have 47, but some ofthem were, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
if I want that pressure, I'll take the access,
though.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
But you know what I mean though, right Just?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
the accomplishments.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, you and I, we're not going to be known,
we're not going to be remembered, we're not going to be in
history books 500 years from now.
George W Bush will be For good.
Not going to be in historybooks 500 years from now.
George w bush will be for goodor bad.
He will be, he will have, hewill have a bio that says okay,

(43:35):
now I have to think I was here40, 43rd president of the united
states.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 2 (43:40):
yeah, he's obama is 40.
Yeah, yeah, because obama is 44, yeah, yeah trump Obama was 44,
trump's 45.
Yeah, trump's 45, so 43, yeah,so Well, that was quite.
I'm sorry I completelytangenced there, didn't I?

Speaker 1 (43:55):
No, you're good, I like that riff.
No man, it's, I am.
I think this administration isJust.
I don't know, man.
I am in wait and see mode.
Like I said, I am so excitedfor the SCOTUS sessions this

(44:17):
year.
I told you how I felt about it.
I think we talked about it alittle lot last year about how I
wasn't looking forward to howthe SCOTUS was set up.
And you know I was excited forthe baby SCOTUSs because I feel
like they're more.
I think they're more lenient orat least more willing to hear

(44:41):
cases and they hadn't been ascorrupt to hear cases and they
hadn't been as corrupt.
But those institutionalistscotuses I think they're going
to have a difficult time.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
I just so you look at Alito and Thomas as the
institutionalist bedrocks,correct?
Yeah, they are, but do youthink they're any more
institutional bedrock for theirpolitical belief, for their
constitutional interpretations,than Sotomayor and Kagan are for

(45:16):
their side?

Speaker 1 (45:17):
about party.
I think they give a shit aboutwho's in their pockets.
I don't think it's about partyand I don't think it's been
about party in a very long time.
I think it's about sponsorship.
We'll see.
Here's where their philosophyis going to conflict with who is

(45:49):
sponsoring them.
Right, because for the longesttime, alito and Thomas has been
using the Constitution as a prop.
Right, as a as an excuse ofthis is why we can't I'm an
originalist.
I believe in the Constitutionand it's a founding document and
it's this and it's that right.
Well, now you have a POTUS whohas essentially said you know,

(46:15):
for better or for worse, fuckthe Constitution.
I'm doing things my way and I'mgoing to challenge everything
with my interpretation.
Everything goes through me, byme and for me Interpretation of
what.
His interpretation of theConstitution.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
There you go.
That's the key to it.
But that's the key to all ofthis is you're talking about the
interpretation of theconstitution and that's where,
like you said, scotus is reallyinteresting, because you already
have two rock-solid, we'll say,originalists, yeah, two

(46:59):
rock-solid progressives, right,and you used to have kind of
four and four fairly clear, andthen the one in the middle, and
I don't think now, I don't thinkit's like that, I think you
have four that really are Lucy,not Lucy Goosey are willing to.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
They can go either way.
Look, there's nothing that saysthe Constitution hasn't changed
outside of the amendments,right?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
So unless there's a constitutional amendment, we can
agree that the Constitutionitself does not change.
The interpretation does, butnot the cost and that's where
the problem lies is theinterpretation, because the
interpretation used to be thatowning a black, that a black
person, was just property, right?
Right, dred Scott.
So you have the failure ofpeople when it comes to the

(48:10):
interpretation.
You don't have the failure ofthe document, Right, and so
that's where?
And curious, I think it'salways funny when you hear
people say well, look at what itsays in the Constitution about
the Second Amendment.
It doesn't mean everybody canhave a gun.
It's like well, hold on theFirst Amendment.
You don't like parts about theFirst Amendment, but the first

(48:34):
like especially this argument,this is the one that kills me
every time I hear it.
Well, when the makers of the,when the framers of the
Constitution, the writers of theConstitution, what they were
doing, they didn't know thatthere were going to be guns that
could fire a thousand rounds aminute.
They didn't know there weregoing to be AR-16, evil AR-16s

(48:55):
that could kill and make bulletholes this big in the back of
people.
They would, yeah, well, right,but I mean, but that's the
argument, right, and I say yeah,but you know what?
The first amendment also the.
When they wrote the firstamendment, they were using
quills and ink and and writingstuff down and putting it in wax

(49:18):
and send it and say, hey, getthis to philadelphia, we're in
washington, get this tophiladelphia as soon as possible
and get me a response.
Ok, well, it's going to beabout three weeks before we,
before they get that response.
So they couldn't imagine thesituation where you could
literally like in the palm of myhand, if I want, I could

(49:39):
literally right now textsomebody in Australia and get a
response literally in seconds.
So they couldn't comprehend thatOur news cycles or instant
media yeah, so that's where theargument of the Constitution
versus the interpretation of theConstitution.
Yeah, I agree, it's going to beinteresting.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
You're going to run up against this.
You're going to run up againstwhat the institutionalists, the
foundational SCOTUSes are goingto have 30 years.
Yeah, Alito is about 30.
He's about 25, 30 years.
Now You're going to have Thomasis over 40.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
He was in the early early 80s, in the early 80s.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
But here you're going to have opinions where they've
ruled before, that are contraryto what the interpretation is
now.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
So now, You've got the SCOTUS receipts, you get
what I'm saying so now.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Either you were wrong then or you're wrong now and
you have to make amends for that.
And that is where I think it'sgoing to get good for the SCOTUS
, because now you have toreconcile with yourself and say,
okay, that is.
And then one thing about CT ishe does not like to admit he was

(51:01):
wrong, he does not like torecant a goddamn thing.
And that is going to be.
I'm telling you, I am going towatch with a hawkish eye his
every word.
He doesn't like to talk duringsessions.
He just kind of sits in thecorner and just does his own

(51:22):
thing.
But I am going to readfervently his words this session
.
I am going to thoroughly enjoySCOTUS sessions this year.
This is one of those thingswhere I am so excited and so
looking forward to it.
I've given this administrationup.
I just assume it's a wash.

(51:43):
I'm taking honor.
I don't think they're going tomake it.
They have so many egos, so manyweird personalities where it's
just not going to work.
You got a dude that just Idon't know.
I don't know Like it's fun andgames now Everybody's.
You know Everybody's cute nowAll the antics and shit.

(52:07):
But it's going to grow oldquick.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
I hear what you're saying.
I'm curious, though, how muchThomas will and let's just stay
with thomas how much thomas willamend his previous um positions
, because in 40 years, in 40years, he is never, not a single

(52:41):
time.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
So that's why I'm saying, that's why I said now
it's going to get interesting,because he is never.
Even when faced, even whenfaced with his own words, he
just shrugged it and was justlike yeah, whatever.
So now I am, that's why I saidthis is, this is going to be
great for me.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
And that's where I say like, even if, if you look
back and you say, ok, I made thedecision at the time with the
best information available, areyou going to have?
Is Clarence Thomas going toGoing to say, and I'm trying to

(53:23):
think of a situation I would saysomething like same sex
marriage?
But he was against same sexmarriage to begin with and
always has been.
But I'm trying to think of asituation that has changed from,
say, 1985 to 2025.
Maybe something along the linesof, I don't know, because it
has changed so much.
Let's say, intellectual rights,for I don't know like, let's
say, actors likeness on AI OK,let's say that, because I don't

(53:45):
know if there's been a ruling onthat.
I don't know, like, let's say,actors likeness on AI Okay, well
, let's say that, because Idon't know if there's been a
ruling on that.
I don't know if he said thingson that, but if you had a ruling
that Thomas had done in theearly stages of the internet, in
19, let's say 1995, when itcame to, and I'm completely
making this up so in 1995, andI'm completely making this up so
in 1995, Clarence Thomas saidit is it?

(54:07):
I believe it should be illegalto share photographs of other
people without their consentbecause of the privacy you know,
the privacy of the 14th, the14th amendment, garrett garrett
has some privacy guarantees,right.

(54:28):
And so I think in 1995, thomassays nope, you should not be
able to share photos.
Fast forward 30 years and, forwhatever reason, somebody you
know, let's say the ncaa.
The ncaa says hey, um, you know, our athletes come up and
they're saying, hey, our likeand kindness deals.

(54:48):
We want not only to be heardabout like and kindness that
we've already done but we alsowant to have some protections
that, even though we've beenpaid for our likeness, that an
AI company cannot come in andmanipulate our images, yeah, and

(55:12):
the argument is well, in 95,you said it was illegal to share
without the consent.
But in 2025, well, you'vealready been paid for your like
in kindness, right, you'vealready been paid for your image
.
So once you've been paid forthat image, if the NCAA wants to

(55:32):
turn around and resell it toGrok and Grok can now make
replays, sports centerhighlights of your likeness
going and playing in the new NBAjams you should be able to
right.
So I could see a situation where, because we are in certain

(55:53):
situations so drasticallydifferent in the last 30 or 40
years, different in the last 30or 40 years.
I don't think it's evendebatable that we have had the
most advance in technology inthe world.
In every aspect of human lifehas advanced the most in the

(56:16):
past 40 years than any other 40year period in the history of
the world.
Just, the wheel was like onebig thing.
Well, we've had the internet,space travel, airplanes, go on
and on and on, right.
So, if so, if Clarence Thomaslooks at that and he says, well,
yeah, in 95, I, I ruled thatway because the internet was

(56:37):
just starting out, and that'sjust, it was very, it was a very
, very different.
And now, societally, that'sjust, it was very, it was a very
, very different.
And now, societally, that'skind of a norm thing is to share
pictures.
And so if not only sharingpictures, somebody got paid for
it already.
Well, yeah, so I could see himpotentially changing.
But I think it would have to bealong those lines.
I think it would have to befairly drastic.

(56:58):
I don't think it would be alongthe lines of, hey, um, you know
, I, I was against same sexmarriage.
I think this, the Lawrence, uh,where homosexuality was, was
not, uh, illegal anymore, theLawrence decision, uh, and
whatever the the same sex oneended up being I know it was

(57:20):
Prop 8, but that wasn't the name, it was Obergefell, and I don't
think there's going to be onewhere he comes out and goes well
, you know, I'm going to votethe same way because this group
wants to make throuples legal,and so well, you know what?
Yeah, that's okay.
Oh, you giggle.

(57:40):
One of my nieces was on thatthrouples reality show.
Hi, mia, I watched the show alittle bit.
It was interesting.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
I don't know man, I found it.
I think Barrett's going to beinteresting.
She's a little.
She's.
She's a lot more moderate thanI, than I assume.
Her what's the boy that caughthell doing his confirmation
Kavanaugh?
He's, he's moderate, but Ithink I think he'll.

(58:17):
He'll be, he'll be somewhere.
He'll be more right thanmoderate.
I believe KGB will be more leftthan moderate, so they'll
balance each other out for themost part.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Saddam.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Oyer be more left than moderate.
I think it's going to beinteresting.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
And.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
I'm really, really excited, like I am really
excited.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
So so, with what you just said and just ran through
those different choices, do youthink the people on the the left
especially, but including theSenate that were so vitriolic
against those picks?

(59:00):
And it wasn't because Kavanaugh?
They didn't go after Kavanaughbecause he was a random.
He was just a dude who incollege liked to drink beer
right, he was targeted becausethey thought he was going to be
another Thomas and another Alito.
They went after him.

(59:21):
I will still say to this daythat the woman who got in front
of him.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Well, that and the rape thing, I think Like, I
think the rape thing was like, Imean it's guilty.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
There were so many.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
But you know what I?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
mean Exactly, it's one of those things.
When that lady came out I waslike, hey, that judge raped me.
It was a bald-faced lie.
Then it's a bald-faced lie now.
There was no proof.
None of her friends evensupported her saying, yeah, she
told me about that you have.

(01:00:01):
So I'm saying, does Kavanaughdeserve and don't get me wrong,
he'll never get it but Kavanaughabsolutely deserves an apology.
But that's what.
When you talk about dirtypolitics and I think we talked
about the Nixon Kennedy thing,we talked about this
Nixon-Kennedy thing, we talkedabout this To be fair, your boy

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McConnell was a whole hole forthat too, because that shouldn't
have never been Kavanaugh'sseat in the first place.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Obama should have been able to fill that seat way
before Kavanaugh got a shot.
That was a bitch move, andKavanaugh can burn in hell for
that.
How a bitch move, and Kavanaughhow can burn in hell for that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
That was how dare you , sir, how dare you, sir,
calling Mitch McConnell my guy?
He got a special place.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I hope, I hope he burns.
I hope he has the slowest, mostpainful, agonizing syphilis
induced death ever induced mandeath, ever induced man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Now, harry Reid, who was the Democrat majority leader
for a long time, is of my faith.
He is of my faith, he is amember of the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
It was his idea to induce that dumbass decision.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Harry Reid set up McConnell for all those
decisions.
He was like I'm going to do allthis because we're in charge
right now, not thinking, hey,you know what Four years from
now, when the Republicans are incharge, they could do this too.
So yeah, harry Reid, back inthe day I thought he was a

(01:01:36):
despicable person.
My niece met him, said he's agreat guy, he's a good guy,
talked to him at church but Isaid I don't care, he is a
horrible person.
And McConnell is just theopposite version Idiot.
Yeah, he's just the filmnegative.
They are two pieces of the pod.
They both deserve whatever theyget in the afterlife.

(01:01:59):
Two peas at a pod.
They both deserve whatever theyget in the afterlife.
And McConnell the factMcConnell's announced his
retirement at the end of nextyear is ridiculous.
He should be out 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
He's been freezing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
He's done everything but fall and flat on his face
while in front of reporters andthe dude is still.
How do you get you and I talkedabout this a little bit online
how do you get rid of a senatorthat is clearly diminished if he
doesn't want to go or she?
You can't, you can't recall him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Unfortunately you can't, they're just, they're
stuck there.
And then, what's her name?
Ponson.
Is she still alive?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
No, she died.
That's the only reason she gotout of her seat.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
You got to do something like that.
You should not be able to, youshould not be able to like Die
in office of old age.
Like she was in, wasn't she inan old folks home?

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
There was a Republican that they found in
the house that she went missinglast summer.
She went missing, no roll calls.
They found her in an old folkshome for dementia Insane.
Think about it.
We talk about the swamp in DC,and it's not just deep state,

(01:03:26):
the swamp is just as much thosecareer politicians, career
administrators for politiciansright, because if you are, if I
get, let's say, let's say I runfor Congress, right, and I win
here, in whatever district thisis.
I think I'm in the like Georgia12th or something.
Honestly, I don't even know.
So that's why it was nice tolive in Utah.

(01:03:49):
We only had three districtswhen I grew up.
I know I know which district Iwas in back then.
So so, if I get, if I get, not,if I win the election now, I'm
going to have my staff here inGeorgia, but I'm going to need
some people that know DC.
And so, even if, if my staff,I'm not going to have a huge
staff, but I think I'm going tohave, you know, five to 10

(01:04:12):
people on staff I think that'sabout what most people have
before interns.
And let's, let's cut it down.
Let's say a nice even numberlike six or six, and let's,
let's cut it down.
Let's say a nice even numberlike six, six yeah, I'm gonna be
.
I'm gonna bring three or fourfrom georgia with me, that I
know, and then I'm gonna have tohave two or three that I pick
up in dc, that know dc.
With those two in dc that arehuge problem, because I can go

(01:04:35):
in and say this is you know what?
Kg and I, when we were pox, wewere talking about doing this
and this and this and this, andI promised that when I got to DC
I was going to do this, this,this and this.
I want to do those four things.
What do I need to do?
Let's go and those two aregoing to go.
Hold on, chaplain, if you wantto get those four things done,

(01:04:57):
what we really need to do islook at those four things and
see which of the four is evenpossible to do, because you
can't get those first three done.
That fourth one maybe, maybe ina couple of years, once you've
established yourself, becauseand how you're going to have to
establish yourself is you'regoing to have to go and you're
going to have to meet with thisperson, this person, this person

(01:05:18):
, this person, who are allsenior leadership, and you're
going to have to pledge fealtyto them and then, if they have a
bill that comes up, I'm goingwhoa, I don't believe in that at
all.
Well, you know that fourththing you were talking about,
that you wanted passed.
If you don't vote for our thing, you're going to be out in,
we're going to, we're going toput you out in the offices back

(01:05:38):
in siberia and we're never gonnalet a single bill that yours
comes up.
You are part of this party andwe don't care if you believe in
this or not.
If you don't fall for it, we'renot going to support you for
your re-election.
We're not going to.
And so your staff is going andthey're doing all the the stuff.
When we talk about the leadersand all that stuff the world

(01:06:03):
leaders that's not where thestuff gets done.
It gets stuff.
The Lord.
Two or three steps down,they're making the sausage.
And then Trump and Zelensky comeout and say I hate you, I hate
you, but here's the peace deal.
But that all got worked out twoor three levels down Right.
So to me that's another part ofit.
But that's also why Trump can'tdo anything about that, because

(01:06:27):
those people do not fall underthe executive branch, they fall
under the legislative branch anduntil you have legislature that
the senators and representativeof the House that say you know
what, you've been here how long?
I'm not hiring you.
Anybody that's been in DC forover 10 years, I don't want you.

(01:06:47):
If I were to ever go to DC, ifI was ever elected and I won't
be, I'm not gonna run, I don'thave the money, et cetera.
If some billionaire came andsaid, hey, chaplain, I'm gonna
support when you retire, I'mgoing to support and I'm going
to back you, I'd be like great.

(01:07:07):
And if I won, I guarantee youright now I wouldn't take a
single person to DC because Idon't trust any of them.
And that's and that's where.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Trump is right now.
You and I are talking aboutthis.
Well, you guys do, because hedoesn't.
He doesn't trust, he doesn'ttrust these people.
But you have an eccentricbillionaire in there who, so
called, is a hell bit on chaosand instead of doing all of
those Great and wonderful thingslike cleaning the swamp,
they're stealing fucking data.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Wow, I thought Elon.
I thought Elon.
So here's the thing.
I thought Elon, somebodybrought this up with him.
Somebody shot that accusationto him on X and he said if I was
in here just to steal people'sdata, why wouldn't I have done
that when I was at PayPal, whenI had all the data I needed then

(01:07:52):
?

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Because PayPal only has a couple of what?
A couple?
Maybe a couple of millionservers, if that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
But if you're looking at data and you're looking at
analytics between PayPal and X,how much more is there Like?
Is it because he's going intothe Treasury Department to see
who makes how much money?
Again, paypal had all that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Do you realize how much data he has access to?
It's not that I'm saying, okay,he's been to the IRS, right,
doe he's been into what otherplaces has he been?
Into Treasury he's gotten.
So he has unfeathered accessinto every, basically every

(01:08:46):
department, every governmentdepartment, right, every
government departmentUnfeathered access.
So he has unprecedented access.
Twitter does not have thataccess.
Twitter couldn't get that kindof access.
Neither can PayPal.
So I got it right.
And what else is he supposed tosay?
Oh, no, I'm not stealing yourdata.

(01:09:08):
It's like you're asking thebank.
Of course, no, I get that.
Are you in here to rob thisbank?
Absolutely not.
I'm just wearing this mask andcarrying this shotgun because
you know it's my SecondAmendment, right?
I'm not here to steal anything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
See, and I look at it the opposite.
I look at it and saying whywould Elon rob a bank when he's
worth half a trillion dollarsand is the richest man in the
world?

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Sure Well, I mean, like I said, we'll find out it
just, it looks real funny.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
I mean it just it Well, ok, does it look funny?
Does it look funny?
Does it look funny because it'snever been done.
Now, remember when you and Iwere talking last year.
This is what I said, somethingalong the lines of we've been
doing the same thing, we've beenvoting in the same type of
people for decades and we havebeen as a as a country.

(01:09:58):
We've been on a slow declinesince, and World War Two, like
that, was kind of I would saythat's kind of peak.
Could have been more peak if,if segregation had actually
worked at that point and youknow the soldiers that came home
and the GI Bill and all thatstuff.

(01:10:18):
But regardless of of pasterrors, I would say that's
probably a high point for ourcountry.
We were on a slow.
Vietnam definitely hammered itdown.
The 80s came along Good, nicebump for money.
Internet came along in the 90sAwesome for knowledge.
9-11 happened, huge patrioticsurge again.

(01:10:48):
Since then, pretty consistentdecline, but surely less, maybe
less.
Presidential is the word lesshonorable, less trustworthy?
Should we say presidential?
Is that a good word for it?
Just people you wantrepresenting us?

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I'm going to tell you, what'sthe word?

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
No.
So we, like I said, we've allbeen optimistic.
But here's my thing right, whenyou have Optimistic, no, no.
So here's my thing.
Right.
When you have a semester, no,no, I'm dead.
So here's my thing when youhave heart trouble, you don't go
see a podiatrist.
Right.
When you have, when you, whenyou're having a mental disorder,
you don't go see adermatologist, Scientologists

(01:11:36):
right?
Those two things areincompatible, right?
Or you know, when you need togo plant roses in your backyard,
you don't go hire a veterinary.
Those two things areincompatible, they don't make
sense, right?

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
And when you're doing audits, you don't hire coders.
It don't make sense.
But when you are trying to cutfraud, waste and abuse, when
you've had somebody that hasdone that with companies and
gone in and cut the fat andincreased efficiency.
And look at twitter.
Remember when elon boughttwitter, what was the first

(01:12:18):
thing he did?
How many people did he fire?

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
That's what everybody likes, I love.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Twitter.
I love Twitter, right, but butremember, he fired what was it
Like?
Half of the half of the staffand he said we're going to get
rid of all this nonsense ofjuice bars and this and that.
And he, he fired half of themand another 10% quit.
And everybody says you knoweverybody on the left, the MSNBC

(01:12:45):
oh, twitter's dead, it's it.
This is the biggest mistakethat Musk could have made.
And you know MSNBC, joy Reedjumping up and down saying watch
what happens.
Twitter's dead because of thisdummy.
And nothing against Joy Reid.
I really appreciate that youjust got fired, but but I don't

(01:13:05):
know what she said about Musk,so I retract that.
She said that, but you did havemultiple, so X is doing pretty
well now.
Right, I think it's still thego to.
You don't think X is still thego to media.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
It probably is, but X is in the red.
X is still losing money.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Has X ever turned a profit?

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Before Elon had it.
Yes, not since he had it.
Okay, it could eventually.
I don't think they've recoveredyet.
It could eventually.
I don't think that.
I don't think they've recoveredyet.
Still, still, you know, I don'tthink they've recovered yet, I

(01:13:50):
haven't looked into it, but Idon't think they have.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
I know part of that was Part of that was also
because they my user statisticsstatistics.
Even though has not reportednet profit law, oh, it hasn't
reported its net profit or lossfor 22 or 23 and then the
company bought it.

(01:14:14):
So when did when did Musk buy X?
When did Musk buy X?
When did he buy it 2020?
What?
When did Elon buy?
I love that we're doing live.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
No, you're good.
We're good because I want tomake sure.
Because I want to make surethey did the same thing with
Donald Trump.
They praised Donald Trump Forhis business acumen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
So here's the thing Twitter Was purchased by Elon
Musk In 2022.
Okay, 2022, here's the numbers.
Okay, and we'll go back to thebig ones.
So from 2012 to 2017, it waslosing between $80 million and

(01:15:12):
$108 million.
In 2018, turned a $1.2 billionprofit 2019, $1.47 billion
profit Pretty good, right.
But then it lost $1.4 billionin 2020.
And then it lost $221 millionin 2021.

(01:15:36):
So it had two good years, so itrecovered.
Now it was still, even after,it's still in the red overall.
The whole time it's been aroundjust looking at the numbers, um
, but it was good.
In 2018 and 2019 were the twopositive years.
2020 basically wiped out 2018and then 2019.

(01:15:59):
And we don't know after Musk.
It says on here and this is byI used the Brave browser
unreported, but in 2022 and 2023, unreported but suspected to be
unprofitable.
In 2024, projected positive 904million, so projected to make

(01:16:24):
almost a billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
2025, projected over a billion dollars 1.09 that was
after the after his selfvaluations, that's.
That's after he evaluated.
He gave the self-evaluationwell valuation versus evaluated,
he gave.
Well, valuation versus revenueare two different things.
But he I mean, yeah, he gave,he gave it, he gave himself like
a a hundred billion dollarvaluation, but then so, but you,

(01:16:49):
you take that right and you say, okay, we can, we can take
twitter and say, all right, well, we didn't get the numbers
there and we look at, we'll lookat other companies.
We said, well, what is tesladoing?
All right, well, tesla wasprofitable, but then it had that
that sharp decline.
And then you know, all right,cool, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Well, tesla, all right it was at one point,
didn't, wasn't tesla the mostvaluable corporation in the
world, just like last year,highest valuation of any company
in the world, last yearSelf-valuation Market evaluation
.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Tesla is a publicly traded yeah, but he did the same
thing that he did the samething that 45 and 47 did.
That landed him in federal hotwater.
He said, hey, my company isworth this much.
And they said, okay, prove it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
The people that were when you're talking about stock,
you can't do thatself-evaluation.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
The people that were looking into it, the OIG, and
you can look this up.
The people that were lookinginto it.
Those were one of the firstpeople who Special Employee Musk
decided to let go.
One of the first.
Those were one of the firstpeople who special employee Musk
decided to let go the one ofthe one of the agencies that
were looking into that, thatwhole self-evaluation thing.
So we'll never know what thetrue answer is, but then we take

(01:18:12):
that to the side.
So wait, so we'll take that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
That's OK, we'll take that to the side, we'll take
that to the side, and then we'llsay well, the side I'm not even
saying Trump's a greatbusinessman.
Yeah, I understand, we'retalking about Elon.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
That's two companies.
We'll take that to the side andthen we'll say, well, what
about SpaceX?
And they will say, well, SpaceXreally wasn't profitable except
for the government handoutsthat Obama gave them for eight
years Contracts are not handoutsServices rendered.
Those were not contracts,though.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Oh, you're talking about the subsidies.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Yes, those were not contracts.
Contracts and subsidies are twodifferent things we're talking
about.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
I thought you were saying we're talking about
welfare.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
That company was underwater and going to bankrupt
.
And what he got, he got sixyears of subsidies and two years
of contracts once he becamesold.
So a different thing, right,well, there will be no SpaceX
had he not got, no, six years ofsubsidies.
So that company was bailed out,right.
And then we talk you know hedid have, you know he did come

(01:19:17):
back and get the first companywhere he became the CEO, or he
was fired and then came back asa CEO, sold it to Comcast and
made like a 20 million dollarprofit and stuff like that.
So there are, you know,instances of success.
I'm not shitting on the guyoverall.
You know you grow and you learnas you go.
But what I'm saying is I don'tthink I think his, his, his

(01:19:38):
business acumen is completely,you know, overblown, like he's
not this, you know he's not thisfucking you know business whiz
kid, he's just.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
OK, so let me, let me push back a little bit on, I
think, maybe a misperception.
Sure, ok, right now.
We are at the point where Trumphas said turn off the money,
spigot.
There's all this money behindthe dam and it's been shooting

(01:20:10):
out of the over, right, justshooting out at.
If you've ever seen the bottomof the Hoover Dam, it's awesome.
It's just.
You got the dam and the dam andthe water is just shooting.
The water.
That's that's what's been goingon for years, right, including
when Trump was in, includingwhen Trump was there as 45.
Right, and?

(01:20:31):
And so there's this money beenshooting out, and so Trump has
has come back in and he saidlook, I'm going to shut that off
.
And that's what's happening.
Shut it off Right now.
When you're saying and I agreewith you when you're saying, if
you're going to go in and findout where this money went, you

(01:20:53):
don't use coders, you useforensic auditors right, we're
not at that point yet, thoughTrump and Musk Trump has not
come out and said look, we needto go in and find out where all
this money went so we can recoupit, because we both know it

(01:21:14):
doesn't matter where that moneywent, it is gone.
Right, you could see full-ondead receipts from USAID to
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who wasthe instigator of 9-11, to

(01:21:35):
direct payment to BillyMcConnell who transferred money
to Mitch McConnell.
You could have that exact same.
And Mitch McConnell is notgoing to jail, he's not going to
get tried.
They're not going to recoup anyof the money, right?
Just an example.
I mean we get mad thing that,yeah, right, okay.

(01:21:56):
So so we're not at the pointwhere we're looking and saying
now we need to go get the money.
What they're looking at is let'sstop this, we need to stop the
money going out.
Then if you have A through Zand all of these have the
spigots of money going out, weneed to shut them all off.

(01:22:19):
Then look and say, okay, youknow what G needs to be turned
back on, but don't turn it allthe way back on.
It only needs 80% of what itwas before.
And the DOD, which is thebiggest one, hold on.
We need to cut that down to 92%of what it has been blowing out

(01:22:41):
.
They're not going back yet anddoing any of the audits.
That's why I don't think it'snecessarily a great argument to
say, hey, you need to havecoders in there, or I mean you
need to have auditors in there.
Yet Now I hope, honestly I hope,that after the initial
floodgates are shut down andreopened appropriately at the

(01:23:07):
appropriate levels and theAmerican people and I've said
they were talking about they'retalking about doing a refund and
saving X amount of money backto the American people, which I
think is ridiculous.
Just stop spending money.
Don't, don't create any moreinflation, just stop it.
Just stop wasting this money.
Let our money be valuable again.

(01:23:28):
But at that point, if they goin and they want to start doing
the audits and they startfinding where the money went and
they have the DOJ, departmentof Justice, go in and start
doing actual investigations andbring in the auditors and all
that, if Mitch McConnellillegally took $1, if Ted Cruz

(01:23:54):
illegally took $, never and ithelped, if, well, I'm just for
me, for me and probably for mostconservatives, most
conservatives will say, yeah,you know what?
It's not okay for anybody to bestealing money.
Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Hold that thought I want you to put your objective
glasses on.
So we got the wall of receipts.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
I can't even see that that's the problem with the
wall of receipts.
I can't even see that that'sthe problem with the wall of
receipts.
My objective glasses are nobetter than my normal glasses.
I can't read a single part ofthat.
You're going to have to tell mewhat it says All right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
So we are on the wall of receipts on Doge right and
we're talking about the totalcontract value.
I was going through this.
I'm so glad they finally gotthings put up here.
You're on Doge.
Yep, Go to dogegov and look atthe wall of receipts.
I want you to scroll down.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
I started looking at it.
I'm opening up and it sayssaving spend workforce
regulations join.
Where am I going to Click?

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
savings.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Click savings Savings .
Scroll down Wall of receiptsNow.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
I want you to so at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Oh, savings.
Scroll down.
Wall of receipts.
Ok, gotcha, now I can see whatit's saying.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Ok, yeah, well, you used to be able to see more.
If you click, see more Right Oncontract, right If you scroll
down, there is a more.
Yeah, I want you to see if youcan notice a trend.
I noticed a pattern right now.
This is this is from Doge, whois?

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
looking for their own .
They're all, they're all mediacontracts.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
No, no, no, Keep looking.
There's another pattern, keeplooking.
This is Doge, who's looking forfraud, waste and abuse in the
government.
Right, it's a, you know, it'snot not a partisan issue.
It's not, you know, left orright.
We are looking for fraud, wasteand abuse and I want you to see
if you can notice the pattern.

(01:25:49):
I was able to pick it up aboutabout 50 in oh, 50 in.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Are you looking at, are you looking at multiple DIE
items?
Yeah, there's a lot of DEI,there's a lot of ton of Politico
subscriptions, which ishilarious, because if you're
paying that much money toPolitico, which is basically a
free online site, that'sridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
There's a lot of EO, eo, a lot of study on equitable
Small business.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Asia Pacific.
Am I supposed to be looking atthe big stuff or the small stuff
?
All of it?
So, in the interest of time, alot of foreign stuff.
So, in the interest of time,I'll cut it short, right what
I've noticed Gettysburg, theGettysburg staff ride services
for forest service $150,000 forpeople on the for the forest

(01:26:49):
service to walk people aroundand say this is what happened in
Gettysburg $150,000.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Staff rides can get extended.
Staff rides yeah you and I bothknow staff rides are ridiculous
too.
Before we get into the finalthoughts, the pattern right?
Sure, either we have one sideof the wing who is grossly inept
at stealing and the other sideof the wing who is just absolute

(01:27:15):
angels at fiscal responsibilityand not stealing a dime.
Well, somebody's lying and youain't got to answer.
But me thinks some shenanigansare afoot with the reporting,
because throughout that entiresavings list I find it hard to

(01:27:36):
believe not Not a single dimewent to any conservative
programs for fraud, waste andabuse.
Out of every governmentdepartment shut down so far, not
a single dime was spent towardfraud, waste and abuse for a

(01:27:58):
conservative program.
And with that thought we go tofinal thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
I'll just say this I think that one way to look at
that also is, as you go backover the last four years, yeah,
most of it's going to go toliberal causes.
So if you start getting backand they go back further, but
most of the contracts they'reonly going to be like I don't
know how long governmentcontracts for, aren't they only
generally four, a year or two?
So you know what I mean.

(01:28:25):
Unless you're talking about acontract that's longer than four
years, it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Mostly they went back quite a bit.
I think the last, the last, theoldest one I saw so far has
been about six years.
Okay, but yeah, but even, allright.
So even are you saying that infour years not a single
conservative effort received asingle government contract, not
not one conservative cause atall.

(01:28:50):
Nobody got paid.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
No, I'm saying that.
Well, I'm saying that there's adifference between how
contracts are done and whatwe're looking here on Doge.
The number of contracts thatare done by the federal
government is probably somewherein the millions.
So I will say this If there areconservatives and Republicans

(01:29:13):
that were going in and screwingwith the system and backdooring
the system and paying you knowkickbacks or whatever, shut them
down too, yeah.
So I think for the most partit's easy to say this is the low
lying fruit, this is the easystuff to see, and go turn it off
.
So it's.
If there's stuff that's alittle harder to find, I hope

(01:29:34):
they find it, I hope shut itdown, because I don't think the
federal government should bespending anything on things that
don't specifically help theAmerican people and that are.
If you showed it to an averageAmerican, average American me
and you and saying here's whatwe're spending, that we went OK,
makes sense, Cool.

(01:29:54):
If you can't do that should becut it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
I like it, I like it, I like it.
Hopefully they'll.
I think it's a little one-sided.
I think that bird is leaningheavy right right now with the
report We'll see as long as thecuts are coming.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
I'm happy, Keep cutting.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
I try to give them the benefit of the doubt, but
they are definitely lookingone-sided.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Remember, there is more than a 0 percent chance
that it is mostly the left.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Yeah, mostly Sure I'll buy, mostly for a dollar.
But out of over 200 reports,not a single conservative effort
starts to look a little iffy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
If you?
If yeah, we'll see.
And I'd be curious what kind oflook if the federal government
was in the last four years.
Well, let me ask you this Doyou think there's any chance in
the last four years the federalgovernment had a subscription,
the federal government meaningthe executive branch?
Do you think there's any chancethat they were paying

(01:30:56):
subscription rates to Fox Newsor any of the Fox?
I know you think Biden and theDemocrats were saying, yeah,
let's go subscribe to the FoxNews.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
I don't think Biden, but then again I don't think
Biden was subscribing personallyto political when I say I got
you, yeah, yeah, but I'm sayinglike yeah, but I'm saying like
it wasn't just you know, itwasn't just fighting Like we got
Department of Agriculture, wegot, I mean hell, you look at
them, you look at the DOD, everyfucking, every television in

(01:31:30):
the damn dental clinics, on FoxNews.
So you mean to tell me not asingle subscription to Fox News,
nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Over.
Well, first of all, those arecable.
No, but what I'm saying is, inthe last four years from 2020 to
2024, when I walked into publicspaces, in military public
spaces, it was probably closerto 80% CNN and 20% Fox News.

(01:31:58):
If it was political, if it waspolitical Back when you and I
were at El Paso, yeah, it wasprobably the other way.
It was 80-20.
But for the last four years, no, it was CNN was much more was
shown in the dental offices, inthe hospitals, the places that
I've been, Even inside certainagencies that I worked at for a

(01:32:23):
couple of years Alphabet Citiesit was more.
When you walked in and you sawall the COVID numbers, that was
CNN exclusively, in fact.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
Weirdos, either way, that's it for us, man.
We will see you guys next week.
Power.
See you guys next week.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Power Jeez man, what do you want to do tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
The same thing we do every night.
Pinky, try to take over theworld.
All right, yo, let's get intoit.
Try to take over the worldYou're preaching.
Try to take over the world.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
They're preaching freedom.
They're trying to take over theworld.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
And there is a chaplain in the world.
They're trying to take over theworld.